Why did no one explore OUTSIDE the Star Wars Galaxy? | Star Wars Legends and Canon
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- Why did no one explore OUTSIDE the Star Wars Galaxy? What happened to past expeditions that tried? We'll cover that and more today!
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FTL travel is theoretically possible IRL but we would have to find a way to create negative matter and then use that to create negative gravity behind a space craft and extreme gravity in front of it and basically having the ship fall forward really REALLY fast
given that FTL travel is technically only impossible in flat spacetime
Between galaxies there is no extreme mass so all hyperspace travel will be like traveling through fastest hyperspace
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The chunks just wouldn’t load.
Ikr
What if you wanted to explore the galaxy but God said:
Christopher Stewart jokes on you I don’t belive in god so he can’t stop me from exploring the galaxy
@@starstudio8402 wow you ruined the joke
@@starstudio8402 The Force Wills would like to have a word with you
Legends: There's a lot of obstacles and societies to avoid
Canon: You didn't pre-order your exclusive copy of the latest EA title
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Legends: gives every answer to absolutely every question u could possibly ever think of
Canon: leaves everyone in the dark til we eventually either 4get or stop caring. Like Snoke lol
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This comment doesn't make any sense
@@deadshot5007 yes it does lmao
Because they chose life
-Sid the sloth
wrong ewan movie bro
Close enough
Ayyyy trainspotting
I chose a new vcr
They did not buy the expansion pass.
From EA
im dead xd
Indeed
Damn XD
;-; im a Force ghost
Always has Been
The reason they didn’t is cause the Trek universe is right next door
Yeah it's disgusting over there
Forget that, they heard about 40K and got scared.
The Star Wars universe is surrounded by the Trek, Warhammer 40k, and SCP universes on all sides. No wonder they don’t go outside it...
And above it all, they have our universe that’s so screwed up that they don’t even want to come here
@@jackm.7094 Suffer the anomalies not to live
We’re ignoring the fact that in the movie “ET”, during the Trick-Or-Treat scene, ET passes Yoda and says “Home”. This is to insinuate the fact that ET is from the same galaxy as Yoda and the greater Star Wars universe. This is further backed up by ET’s race being present in the Galactic Senate. So, either we are living in the same galaxy as Yoda and have not been discovered yet, or, ET’s race have mastered inter-galactic travel.
If Star Wars is a long long time ago then they could’ve developed inter-galactic travel
This is even further backed up by the phrase: "...in a galaxy far far away".
That means that we do indeed live in the same universe and that the sw galaxy is just far away from us.
@@troll2161 then how there are both humans in the SW galaxy and the Milky way ? That's some really strange evolution
@@podlodialgilap3490 maybe we are something like a failed attempt to create a colony in the milky way
We don't know how long ago sw is so that could be the case
Now entering ecological dead zone. Multiple leviathan class lifeforms detected
Bruh
Are you certain whatever you/re doing is worth it?
I laughed Rly hard
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"The Star Wars galaxy is 100k light-year wide, and if you have a fast enough ftl and not many obstacles you can go from one side to another in a few days"
Knowing that Andromeda is 2,5 million light year away, and that extra-galactic space contain far less objects, it would take a few months for a star wars ship to cover that distance after escaping the barrier, so quite a long trip, but not something that require a sleeper ship. In fact, that kind of travel can even be made regularly
There are still objects in the intergalactic void. So they would still have to map the route to another galaxy which would slow them down massively.
You're forgetting about hyperspace lanes.
If Han Solo can make the Kessel run in 12 Parsecs, then he could easily make the Andromeda run in under a month.
You're assuming they have a nearby galaxy.
If they had the hyperspace lanes to nav thru....eck said that because of no lanes it would be a slow nav because it hasn't been mapped
"...their organic technology..."
"...paths aren't well fleshed out..."
Nothing to really say, I was just amused by this.
Maybe it's a reference to what lurks outside the galaxy...
Some Sovereign quotes come to mind.
“Your technology is based on OUR technology. By using it your society develops along the pathways that we desire. We bring order to the chaos of organic life...”.
The Reapers live in Dark Space, of intergalactic space.
Just saying
This would have been a perfect job for post-clone war B1 battle droids, or any other CIS droids. The empire could have sent them out as unmanned operations, having them build and set up refueling stations and clearing a path to the unknown
They afraid they’ll run into the Warhammer 40k galaxy.
Nah, the 40k galaxy is the Milky Way, so it is far far away. And it's set in the year 42000 or so, so it's in the very very far future of Star Wars. Tyranids, however, could have been active close by at that time. Or maybe the old ones or the Silent King, and any of those options would be extremely bad for them anyway.
I want to see Palpatine meeting the Emperor of Mankind
Ditidos the star wars galaxy is the milky way. The story were hear with the text scroll in the beginning of the movies is r2d2 recounting the story to people far into the future.
@@sekireialpha Oh well, if that's true then we just have to wait until the Star Wars Galaxy becomes 40k Galaxy. If even it isn't that already.
@@Ditidos No no, it's the other way around, the Warhammer 40k universe will become the Star wars universe.
There was a time in the 80s when Star Was comics were made by Marvel... as was Doctor Who at that time until the late 90s (in fact The Transformers & Doctor Who indirectly crossed over though Marvel)... imagine during the Dark Empire saga, Emperor Palpatine succeeded but ran into the Dalek Empire while invading another galaxy..?
LOL
Damn, just imagine the Emperor's shuttle landing on a planet, he walks out and you here the famous "exterminate, EXTERMINATE!" that would be incredibly awesome xD
@@floriandiem1223 I would love to see that.
i'd like to see TF and SW cross over
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They did a few toys for one
Off topic: How hard was it to hide in the galaxy?
Were there worlds that just had no communications with the outside so no one could trace you - I hear there's a empty hut on Dagobah.
Could you just disappear?
Change your identity… apparently just changing your first name to Ben is enough.
_[Sloopy Bounty Hunters]_
And what about for a entire species?. The Lasat had a hidden Homeworld, but that existed before they made interstellar contact and they used it as a secret Bolthole.
Could whole communities or even planetary populations rack off and actually avoid being traced?
The Wookies really should've taken advantage of their Pathfinders…
Well, ships can be tracked easier than people I think. Finding a single person among many billions would be difficult. Narrowing down the search area to a system or a single planet would help but isn't gauranteed to successfully catch the target.
1:
Probably but it would be rare for example: ewoks
2:
Yes with the right technology you could change your facial features and change your name and go out in the outer rim and boom nobody can find you
3:
Yes they could hide underground and build homes and as long as nobody goes underground they are hidden
4: probably, but unless you're gonna hide your whole species i dont know why they would.
I know this is contrary to Star Wars, but in my own sci-fi story the reason no one ventures outside the galaxy is simple: it would take INSANELY long. "Hyperspace" is fast because the alternate dimension is sensitive to gravity and is affected by the gravity of "real space." Within a galaxy that means hyperspace is compressed to an extreme degree, once you leave the galaxy however hyperspace is no longer compressed and becomes as large/larger than real space. Meaning once outside the galaxy you wouldn't travel any faster in hyperspace than you would in real space. This is also why ships tend not to travel too far above/below the "galactic plane," similar effects resulting form the galaxy as a whole being mostly "two dimensional."
As a side note this gravitational excuse also works for why ships can't jump into hyperspace in/near a gravity well. Gravity has a greater effect on the alternate dimension than it does in real space, meaning jumping near any planetary body capable of forming itself into a sphere would be akin to jumping into/near a black hole's event horizon. No material in existence can withstand it, and your ship would therefore get ripped to shreds for trying.
This is an excellent explanation!
Yeah, this sounds cool.
I've thought this aswell but never knew how to articulate it and love that you said this!
Does this the Clone Wars episode "Jedi Crash" refute the latter claim? They were well in the galaxy's atmosphere and they were able to jump. Same with Rogue One
Isn't the point of hyperspace lanes that they are used to avoid gravity wells? If so then most everything between galaxy's could be considered a hyperspace lane as it is much emptier space, lacking any bodies of gravity.
Also regarding the distance to other galaxies: In our galaxy, the closest known galaxy to us is the Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy, at 236,000,000,000,000,000 km (25,000 light years) from the Sun. The Sagittarius Dwarf Elliptical Galaxy is the next closest , at 662,000,000,000,000,000 km (70,000 light years) from the Sun. Considering the size of the Milky Way (52,000 light years) this means one could travel from the edge of the milky way to another galaxy in less distance that traverse across the Milky Way itself. Again, considering that there is less mass in between galaxies than inside one, travel to another galaxy could conceivably be an easier journey than to travel across a galaxy filled with bodies of gravity which require hyperspace lanes to safely navigate around.
Exactly.
Travel between Galaxies in Star Wars would be easy, and fast. In fact, Hyperspace travel would only take a couple of months tops. No Gravity wells, and nothing to potentially run into means a ship could travel at full hyperspace speed, until they approach the edge of another galaxy.
@@Snapper314 Legends authors: "...Uh, yeah, well, whenever you se see something like that, the Celestials did it!"
Star Wars fan: "I see, but regarding as to the nature of Hyperspace in the first pla-"
Legends authors: "Celestials."
@@Snapper314 yeah the problem with 5hat is the space between galaxies isn't completely empty. You have rogue stars, planets, asteroids, and other things floating out there you can't see because of the lack of light. So without knowing what's out there, travel paths, speeds, sizes of these objects that aren't charted, running into one at hyper speed might create a sudden rude awakening.
@@michaelkeudel8770 It's statistically true that even within a galaxy, you're almost guaranteed to drop out of hyperspace in open space, simply due to the utter vastness and emptiness of space. Between galaxies would be even less likely.
As shown on the Phantom Menace, the aliens from “E.T. The Extraterrestrial” were shown in the galactic senate. Because they visited our earth, it follows that they did travel beyond the Star Wars Galaxy.
Glad to see I am not the only one who remembers the Asogian expedition.
People never do research and post false videos
Naboo had ducks.
@@mikevanroy9356 this says a lot about society
@@mannamoth918ducks are important
The sequel trilogy should have been about the Yuuzhan Vong. Seriously you have the prequels which has droids as antagonistic force. Originals had stormtroopers of course. It would have complimented the sci-fi genre entirely by ending with a very alien threat as iconic as the roger roger droids and the move along troopers. More importantly it would have been different and would have opened up a whole new era that could have expanded on the war like clone wars did and rebels did. Imagine an animated show with Mark Hamill voicing Luke, I bet he would have loved to do that. Could have had modern games following the new jedi order like a revamped jedi academy too.
Also it just would have made sense from a narrative perspective of a saga. The Clone Wars and the end of the republic was all about a failure to listen as Padmé put it. It was about people clinging to the old ways and stagnating instead of adapting. It paved the way for a man like Palpatine to steer the galaxy straight into his hands. Led the way to a very human story of oppression and a ragtag group of rebels fighting to take back their freedom. However as we all know by now the Empire whilst oppressive still got things done and the rebels were fighting to restore a republic that ultimately failed. The ending of the RotJ is a solid ending but if they were going to reopen it then they should have focused on a story about reconciliation.
It should have been about how two opposing factions, the New Republic and the Imperial Remnant coming together in order to defend their home from a threat that doesn't care about their opposing ideologies. The same thought could have extended to the jedi and sith and ultimately lead to something new and stronger than before. Because that's how war is won isn't it? Not by destroying the enemy but by making your enemies your friends. That's what they also did with the Yuuzhan Vong. That to me sounds like it captures hope which is the main theme of star wars. In the expanded universe they formed the Galactic Alliance but they could have easily gone a step further and created a new order of force users too that found true balance between light and dark. Thus bringing an end (cinematically) to the Skywalker saga and the prophecy of the chosen one by restoring balance not just to the force but the galaxy too. A happy, hopeful ending.
Instead we got a lesser repeat of a story we had already been told built on trying to be nostalgic with piss poor characters and even worse direction.
Also crossing the intergalactic void would be easier since there is basically nothing there, you just need to be sure of your destination.
Well...I wouldn't be so sure of that. Rogue planets which have been flung from their parent galaxies are one thing I can think of which could pose a serious threat to inter-galactic travel. Granted, probably not a prevalent threat, but they would be concern. There could also be exotic, or at least unknown, phenomena that your path could take you through, not to mention species like the Vong who've already developed a type of inter-galactic travel.
@@palladin1337 true, but it is orders of make less dense compared to Galactic space.
Inter-galactic space is INCREDIBLY empty. I don't remember the exact numbers, but we did a calculation in my astrophysics class taking the known mass and volume of a large region of space (many galaxies/spaces between) and the density was something on the order of a few atoms per cubic meter. And when you consider how dense a person is on the scale of atomic mass, let alone planets and STARS, it's incredible how there is basically literally nothing between galaxies
All true as per my original comment, though the first reply does have about this being the Star Wars universe so there may be stuff out there.
@@jakesdevil And I agree with this in principle, but I would like to remind you that this is Star Wars we're talking about. God only knows what it would have dwelling in the inter-galactic void.
The Unknown Regions were off-limits.
When the left half of the galaxy is basically a mystery, why focus on what is outside the galaxy.
@@robertnelson9599 same reason we focus on space and not the Ocean.
@@USSCYT That's actually a good point, although I think it's better to try and focus on both if possible
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Don’t tell me where I can’t go!
They don't want to stumble upon Earth 2020, that's why.
Stormtrooper 1: "Hey, where did they say we were being dropped?"
Stormtrooper Sergeant: "Some hole in the wall called Earth. Human majority population, pre-hyperspace civilization. But watch yourselves...these savages still have some firepower and know how to use it."
Stormtrooper 2: "Hey, Sarge? We've got an incoming transmission from Command. They want us to land, torch the first transport, kill the remaining troopers and then await further orders."
Stormtrooper Sergeant: "Damn it. Abort!"
Stormtrooper 1: "What?"
Stormtrooper Sergeant: "You heard me! I take responsibility for this decision. Turn back, now. COVID-19 is still down there."
Stormtrooper 2: "Oh man, those poor bastards."
If I see a bloody Death Star ima just leave
@Derek Hottenstein when they mean ‘a long time ago’ they mean like....
*a c o u p l e w e e k s a g o*
“Because it’s not as cool as a galaxy far far away”
-*Directed by George Lucas*
I’d pay to watch that lol.
@@theemperoranimations3797 Watch what?
@@jermo1470 watch you
@@paulallen2680 fbi open up
They couldn’t get past the Far Lands
@Jonathon Rose yea and if they didnt get banned they would just
D e a t h
In theory there shouldn’t be large or any mass shadows in the inter galactic void. The larger challenge would be leaving and entering the galaxies and possibly keeping a straight path.
Thats not true, the intergalactic void is not at all empty. Theres no reason to assume it would be either.
Currently its thought that half of all stars exist outside of galaxies, the relative density is low but then a galaxy is already almost all empty space to begin with and navigation is apparently a major issue there.
You forgot to mention that the Andromeda is on a collision course with the Milky Way and is due to collide in about 3-4 billion years from now and form into a new galaxy that will be called Milkdromeda.
Or the Andromeda Way
It isn’t really related to the video itself though.
@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodb7585 I was just saying as he mentioned the Andromeda Galaxy.
I always chalked it up to the "great barrier". It existed in the old (Legends) continuity & it exists in Misneys continuity. IIRC in the old (Legends) continuity it was described basically as a giant forcefield, under Misney canon it's more natural phenomena/wild space/the force in its untamed form. In both cases there were "holes" in this barrier, it was through one of these holes that the Yuuzhan Vong poured through in the old continuity. One of the things I did like was the explanation/theory that the 1st 2 Death Stars were created to punch holes in the barrier to allow the Empire to explore/conquer outside the galaxy.
In both versions the barrier is there to keep something IN or something OUT; the question is what. We found out in the old continuity, apparently it's still "up in the air" in Misney canon.
Did you watch the squadron cg short it was really good!
Has anyone got a link?
Yea eck was at the stream
Wow it was good.
Going to call it that the imperials character will be like .... are we the baddies ? Then switch sides and be the rebels.
@@necromorph1109 nope watch it first hater
Me: Reads title
Me: Because if they did, they'd probably have to go through to unknown regions, and if they made it past the UR, they would have probably been attacked by outlaws.
What if a super strong galaxy empire decided to go to the unknown would the force go mad
Eck plz read the Lost Fleet. Having a re-read, it's great. The fact that you never mention it on your channel is downright criminal.
What's it about?
@@aaravtulsyan A space opera about a fleet of warships trapped behind enemy lines. The progression of battles in the series is the best in all of sci-fi imho.
@@Arashmickey Sounds dope, does it take place in our galaxy or a different one like sw??
@@kevinvassago Our galaxy. The setting isn't the best part frankly, the best part is how each battle progresses logically from the previous ones.
I only read one of the books, but I loved it.
On the space map of the unknown regions: Here, there be space dragons.
Here were space dragons
*sobs*
Why must you be so cruel as to bring back such sadness?
Cries
I don't think the Cryt Dragons went there, maybe space sea serpents xD
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The Asogians HAVE explored outside their galaxy. In fact, they've been to a galaxy far, far away and visited a planet called Earth. One of them became friends with a boy named Eliot. Since Asogians can live for millions of years, the travel times between galaxies is trivial to them.
yoooooo...
I'm curious if the republic made laws on how to meet new species and slowed down further quick exploration to avoid another incident like they had when they discovered the sith on korriban and that's why it's so slow going in their universe
The only thing out there is a tide of endless blades and hungering maws that seeks to devour all
(The Tyranids)
the yuzzan vong didn't come to conquer the galaxy
they were running from Tyranid hive fleet leviathan.
Tyranids die to chainsaw swords
They would get rekt in star wars.
Star Wars would get “rekt” here’s why. Tyrannids aren’t just feral beasts, they are controlled by a hive mind that can take information and make use upon it within minutes. Not to mention that tyranids are reliant on biomass, down to the cellular level. That makes the hive fleets stronger for all the biomass it consumes. And the W40k fleets, which are capable of taking down most things, like eldar craft worlds are a scouting force. Yep a scouting force. Sure, individual tryanids die to chain swords. But there are always more. And if you want me to go into detail about more things like genestealers or the fact that every thing they consume they get their genetics feel free to ask me.
@@hunterleeds9376
Star wars has more ships and more advanced ships than the Imperium. And Tyranid genetics aren't that good tbh. They still die to the same chemical weapons and Lazer guns that they always have. to be honest I think the whole of 40K is over-hyped in general. I don't really see the Imperial fleets losing to the same hive fleets the Imperium beats on a regular basis.
Good point, but I see you think that Star Wars and 40k are roughly equal in scale, like the size of escort vessels for the imperium are usually at least 2km or more, that’s about as big as a star destroyer, and if we are talking about face to face combat, gaurdsman’s lasguns, the things that make people joke about being flashlights, are powerful enough to blow limbs clean off. And the imperium has billions or potentially trillions of these, not to mention the space marines. And the imperium loses to the tyranids in the long run, the Star Wars galaxy would have less of a chance. And one final thing, the tyranids hive fleets are so numerous, that people often mistake them for nebulas at long range, and the entire galaxy for 40k, which is much more powerful than Star Wars, just look at comparisons, would die within 100 or so years if all the tyranids put full force on it, remember the tyranid hive fleets that are in 40k are scouts, and have already made the imperium go on even higher alert than it was before.
Isn't the real hazard of navigating hyperspace the risk of smacking into a gravity well? Surely such problems wouldn't present themselves in intergalactic space.
Maybe the energy field at the edge of the Star Wars galaxy marks the outer boundary of The Force's sphere of influence - the magic doesn't work beyond Star Wars' home galaxy.
well they did stated in legens that the vong were onces part with the force as well, untill well the whole galactic genoside and the force went like "i don't know thoes guys" on them
While debatable if canon thanks to that The Phantom Menace cameo and the Yoda costume "Home! Home!" hint, what about E.T. using Force-like powers on Earth?
Wasn't it said that like ungodly powerful could use the force even in force deadzones?
Hyperspace madness
That's an easy problem to solve: put curtains over your ship's windows.
See this button....DONT PUSH IT
Ship: leaves star wars galaxy
Sovereign: "I am beyond your comprehension! You live because WE allow it, you will be destroyed because WE require it."
Ship: returns to Star Wars Galaxy "uh, yeah, remember that Death Star we blew up? Any chance we could get a couple dozen more?"
*Mysterious Voice*: We are the Borg, resistance is futile.
*confused covenant noises*
Chaos Marine chants getting louder
@@aiosquadron I misread that as bong hahahahahhahaahahahahhahahahaah.
I am so funny
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@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodb7585 5 5 5. (5 in my native language is pronounce "ha")
Lets not forget that every galaxy, except andromeda is constantly moving away from us. Maybe it's different for the star wars galaxy.
That would mean since Star Wars happens in the distant past, galaxies would be much closer toghether. Meaning intergalactical travel should be easier than now.
Really? I was under the impression that our Milky Way was going to collide with the Andromeda galaxy in some distant point in the future.
@@geoffreyrichards6079 Oh yes, well kind of. Our local cluster is (extremely slowly) rotating around the center of gravity created by the Milky Way and Andromeda (the two titanic galaxies on the cluster) and those two are getting attracted to each other due to their respective huge amounts of mass. But apart from that, the rest of galaxies are getting away from us (similar things may happen inside those "small" pockets where galaxies get clustered) due to some unclear cause and at an ever-accelerating speed. At some point they will get so far apart that it will be impossible to see them (heck, the time frame where life as we know it can appear and galaxies being visible coinciding is actually smaller than the time they don't, we are very fortunate to be able to detect them).
Maybe the Star Wars galaxy is the andromeda galaxy
@@marshmallowallen5677 Then it wouldn't be far far away
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I mean is there much point to exploring the intergalactic void?
Is there a point to anything?..
Markus Möttus same profile pic yuhu
and no roadhouses or gas stations :D
Markus Möttus yes actually. So the people outside of the simulation can see what dumb shit were doing today.🙂
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Would you even need a hyperspace line outside of the galaxy?
That's my point...it's supposed to be a void...just hit the button and go
@@Kolonol1 keyword "suppoused" tho its called a void its not fully a void, at least in real life that is
@@cristianverdugogalaz8725 well we don't know that for sure in real life either... I mean yeah we can guess and we can take pictures that simulate it... But we have yet to go there
@@Kolonol1 uhm, the definition of the observed voids puts it as "very few or no galaxies" which actually feels more confusing now ngl
@@cristianverdugogalaz8725 not sure what you are getting at there...you just kind of reiterated the point a little...I'm not saying you are wrong I'm just saying we don't really know yet
If my memory serves me well, I believe I remember self replicating droids that get bigger and bigger as they collect matter even eating whole planet and sometimes stars. These droids apparently came from another galaxy if I remember correctly.
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This is something I've been thinking about in regards to a fanfic I've been working on. The main antagonists are an extragalactic group of Lovecraftian constructs born from wounds in the Force known to the SW galaxy as the Forceless Collective, and they've been conquering galaxies since before the Infinite Empire, and even colluded with them. However, the Collective has been stalled in the Star Wars galaxy for thousands of years thanks to some incidents making the Rakata wary of them.
As for the fast-travel method, the Collective doesn't use hyperspace or sleeper ships. They've possessed some space leviathans (known as Levioths) capable of generating interdimensional wormholes, which also makes them an unpredictable adversary. However, even as I'm planning how my Jedi characters plan to reach their base of operations, I've thought of a reason as to why they wouldn't adopt the wormholes for long-term use and make hyperspace obsolete: the dimension inside the wormholes is even worse than the Warp from Warhammer 40K, and it would simply be too much for the senses of almost any sentient being that isn't a Levioth or a Forceless symbiote to handle.
Thought you might like to know that the "Lovecraft meets Star Wars" bit has already been done. It's explored in "Cult Encounters" and "Supernatural Encounters," both of which were published online after originally being cancelled. Abeloth arguably as well. Personally I didn't care for either of them, nor Abeloth. You might consider using elements of it however.
If I'm being honest though, what made Lovecraft's stories good to me was the mystery of it, the "unknown" variables of the entities that made them seem more like natural forces than beings. No way to fight them, no way to defend against them. When you introduce concepts like war or hope, they cease being truly Lovecraftian IMO.
@@khadenallast4495 To be honest, my story falls more into Lovecraft Lite, as I'm also trying to preserve some of the more Star Wars-like elements (it's still a coming of age story, and a lot of the conflict is with a paramilitary cult built around the Collective). I had the idea of what eventually became Forceless conceptualized before Abeloth was even introduced (I will say Forceless are coincidentally similar to Mnggal-Mnggal, except they don't kill and rot the bodies they possess unless they really want to, and are a little more defined).
Forceless may fly in the face of what even Jedi understand about the Force (by being absolutely devoid of it when it's supposed to be all-encompassing), but they aren't inherently evil as a species (even if the sources of their birth are terrifying to think about, such as a genocide or some other high-death toll disaster; and so yes, Forceless being born are an inevitability), and are just as prone to being influenced by external factors as any other Force-based species (the first influence is usually their Herald, the first being they ever possess, whom they effectively treat like a parent). I initially presented the Forceless Collective as something similar to the Yuuzhan Vong, but more alien and mysterious in motive (they don't have religious zeal motivating them, and they're a lot more pragmatic), but later, we see other Forceless collectives that were born in the Star Wars galaxy and independent of the main Collective. In the part I'm working on right now, I'm preparing to introduce a Forceless symbiote born with a blank slate (as in the one originally born from whatever Force-wound created it, and not born from a pre-existing symbiote that already has its own Herald and Collective), and that ultimately develops to be benevolent.
However, being able to understand their biology is always going to be a headscratcher.
We have recently (within last couple months) discovered our galaxy has a couple of small dwarf neighbor galaxies, closer than Andromeda.
As for a galactic barrier, our solar system has a bubble also. Where our solar winds meet the galaxy winds. We have a map of it now. It would make sense that a galaxy would have the same thing.
They did. the explorer whom we credit for this was named E.T.. History shows us he even made it to earth to do some exploring planetside. please reference the historical documentary titled "E.T., the extraterestrial.
Because they are always stuck in a fight every time so have no time to explore outside the galaxy image how cool it would be to
see a war between republic and some highly advanced alien
Who want to invade Star wars galaxy
I know about yuuzhan Vong those space orks I am talking about a God level alien force
Eckharts Ladder you are like the best taught me most about starwars than anyone bro 🖤🖤
I love Star Wars Lore and so I love your videos, my favorite was your video about why blockades work, I just love strategies and people that use them like Thrawn in Star Wars Rebels.
Oh how I love theoretical and fictional science. Because this all happened "in a galaxy far, far away", the events of SW officially took place in our universe and so based on the age of our galaxy and the fact that SW happened long ago, it is a fair assumption to make that the galaxy far far away must have been one of the earliest in the universe to form given its level of astronomical and biological development. Dr. Patrick Johnson, professor of physics and author of 'The Physics of Star Wars', places the events of SW at no earlier than roughly 9 billion years after the Big Bang (approx. 13.8 bil. years ago). Based on this timeline, the GFFA would have had to have been incredibly quick to cool and condense from its soupy state to a state more conducive to the formation of life, since we won't have evolved in our own galaxy for another 4.5 billion years. All this goes to say that even considering the three or four extragalactic species we know of (which all originated in the same galaxy), sentient life in the universe must have been incredibly rare at the time and so the universe would have been an incredibly lonely place outside of GFFA. Extragalactic exploration probably wouldn't have been much of a priority. Looking at our own exploration of space, its not entirely unreasonable to say that had we definitive proof of extraterrestrial life and that space wasn't just a cold and lifeless void, we'd be a lot more invested as a species and so a lot farther by now than just the edge of our own solar system.
Anyway, what Empire at War mod was that???
I can’t wait for them to find us. I think my friend would join the empire if they did
Love the intro/outro
Your intro reminded me of the mc mod reviews that I watched years ago and it makes me happy
Imagine another empire or republic that other's could suport sides in galaxies in war.
The EU covered this nicely. We learn that it's probably not a good idea to travel to other galaxies because there are things that are much worse than Sith or Empires
Abeloth, the Mnggal-Mnggal, and Yuuzhan Vong to name a few.
My gosh I freaking love the way you say "out"
Love your content!
The death start could have been there perfect ship to explore outside the galaxy. It's self reliable, and extremely powerful.
we are the borg we assimilate the death star lower your resistance is futile
Oh, so Star Wars has expanded so much we are talking about other Galaxies.
INTERESTING
Wonderful music this time Eck!
Gotta love the lil pupperino at the end 👌🏽
If there is nothing really outside of a galaxy or between galaxies, then just hit the button and go lol
It isn't as easy as that
Without mass shadows, wouldn’t it be though.
There are tons of celestial bodies drifting through space such as rogue planets that don’t orbit any star. It’s unlikely, but there’s still a chance of hitting stuff
@@liusaidhriddle5016 still a chance of hitting an asteroid or comet that got bumped off its course in regular hyperspace lanes too...but the whole galaxy uses them
These things do exist, but have any ever been detected in extragalactic space?
Maybe Yoda's species traveled from Unknown Space with slow travel. A few remained and decided to not tell anyone where they came from or what they are.
Only know are Yoda, yaddle and grogu
In most versions of hyperspace, you can only be in hyperspace where gravity is basically neutral.
You can counter the pull of a large mass by moving close to a small mass.
If you get too close to a large mass while traveling, its gravity will pull you right out of hyperspace.
So a hyperspace vessel leaving Earth would have to travel to a point where the gravity of the Earth and Moon perfectly countered the pull of the Sun and then further tweak that position so the mass of the sun countered the pull of the surrounding galaxy.
Then you would follow a path out of the solar system where you never got close to any large mass that could pull you out of hyperspace.
Thats why you have hyperspace "lanes".
When you try to leave a galaxy you have to deal with the entire mass of the galaxy behind you with virtually nothing in front of you so the gravity of the galaxy keeps yanking you out of hyperspace and then you have to travel at relativistic speeds looking for a mass that can counter the pull of the galaxy so you can get back into hyperspace.
Once you get about halfway to another galaxy they will cancel each other out and then hyperspace is easy....until you get close to the next galaxy, then you have to repeat the whole process as you approach your destination.
So it would take centuries to find a hyperspace lane to take you from one galaxy to the next because you would have to find a chain of objects (lone stars, asteroids and other masses) that you could use to counter the pull of the galaxy behind you and calculate the path you need to take that would keep you in hyperspace.
Interesting subject not usually talked about. Well done.
I would love to see the unknown regions and other galaxies mapped, visited, and explored in Star Wars.
Also, FTL travel shouldn’t be called impossible in the real world as I’m sure there are ways do to it wether that means traveling in real space, hyperspace/slipspace, or whatever (though I imagine you were just talking about the former, but still my point stands).
FTL travel is possible, you just need an infinite amount of energy and you are ready to go!
@@nobleman9393 Or just discover the fourth or fifth spatial dimension and figure out how to travel through it. Easy peasy
@@jangtheconqueror Very Easy, barely an inconvenience.
If I remember correctly, hyperspace is another dimension of sorts, so it should be pretty easy once someone figures out how to navigate it. Also, since it's another dimension, and based on what we see in the films and other media, time dilation doesn't exist in hyperspace, which makes things a lot easier.
@Brad Grant I said spatial dimensions. So just like a 1d or 2d being would have a difficult time understanding what it'd be like to live in a 3d world (if you imagine they're on the ground, every time we jump or even stand up it'd be like we changed shape or disappeared. Airplanes would seem like teleportation to them), it could be that our universe is actually 4d but we actually just don't know because our senses and brains haven't evolved to regularly percept it. Moving through the fourth spatial dimension would seem like teleportation to us. Of course, moving normally through it would probably be the same or take longer than just going in a straight line through 3 spatial dimensions, unless we learned how to bend those 3 dimensions, say, with a large amount of gravity like a blackhole. This would be the equivalent of poking a hole at either end of a piece of paper and then bending it to bring those holes together, only in a higher dimension. We obviously don't have any means to detect it (and probably won't ever, I don't actually think it exists lol) but the math in the 4th dimension and higher is actually not too difficult.
A love that little corgi outro... XD
maybe the bubble is what changes the physics in the Star Wars galaxy. That would explain why things are the way they are in the galaxy.
the Rakata and E.T.s race visited the milky way. also we see a crystal skull and arc of the covenant in the Clone Wars connecting indiana Johns to Star Wars. i think the Star Wars Galaxy IS Andromeda
Shard18 a lot of ancient and extinct races once visited different galaxies. Too bad they were stranded on those new homes. There was no way they would come back to the Star Wars galaxy (Sky River) while their homeworlds waged war against the demoniac beings and eldritch horrors that were bleeding into reality from Illathrion/Otherspace...
The Xenomorphs from ‘Alien’ might also count since there appear to be a few of them inhabiting the ‘Star Wars’ galaxy.
4:13 what game is that cause your piloting YT-2000 my “if I was a smuggler” ship.
X-wing alliance
Star Wars Galaxy (or "Sky River") is actually a bit bigger than our own, supposed to be 120k light years across, at least according to the wiki.
I also saw somewhere (a video of yours or the wiki)that the Vong didnt have hyperspace technology, so thet probably went right past the barrier in real space.
We roleplayed this 20 years ago. We created Hyperspace Waypoints every 1000 Light Years.
A Waypoint is a MASSIVE grouping of equipment and personnel, almost 1 AU in diameter.
The Asogians seem to have done it
couldnt someone go up? its space so technically they dont have to go 2d?
i would asume the barrier is up as well tbh
Space is an ocean!
No one want to visit ancient stars in those globular clusters. That's for retire folks, kind of like Florida.
They could always make the excuse the hyperspace barrier is the dark matter surrounding the galaxy as it should form in a bubble around the galaxy since it's only effected by gravity.
Love the intro song. Had to Shazam it. Resonance -Home
Home has a lot of bangers, try Native or We’re Finally Landing
Galaxies real arnt that far apart relative to the size of a galaxy and fast you can travel in star wars
Last time they explored they ran into some Tyranids and just said "Noooope!" and turned around.
The space Oootside. lol canadian accent gets me every time.
Build a sleeper ship with automated Kaminoan tech. You could eventually start to grow your own crew rapidly when you get closer to your destination!?!
Ironically in the real world astronomers actually figured it out.
Its a combination of dark matter, dark energy, and normal matter thats is illuminated because there is not enough light.
Dark matter and dark energy are just theoretical ideas.
@@nikstoun9478 well yes and no dark energy and dark matter are very much real as we have observed their affects.
Such as gravitational lensing and how galaxies maintain their shape. And the fact the expansion of the universe is accelerating.
We call them "dark" because we know very little about it and its not very active.
The Andromeda galaxy is getting closer. Andromeda will collide with the Milky Way(not the candy bar) in about 10 million years give or take. Good news is since space is so vast the collision with another planet is slim.
Actually it's about 4.5 billion years until the collision, the Sun will still be stable at that point, but we're definitely not going to be around to have to worry about it
@@tklarenbeek1 I was guestamating. I read about it last year so my numbers were a little off. I wonder what humans would look like then.
Love your content! (:
One of the earliest things I read why was that the hyperdrive simply doesn't work outside the galaxy... making them kinda bound to the galaxy.. and ofc some Force nonsense and that the force is unique to that galaxy
stimple answer: because WHY should anyone? the star wars galaxy isnt even fully explored so why bothering sending exploration vessels into the dark endless void beyond that?? they didnt even master traveling to other galaxies and in between galaxies theres nothing of interest! so just explore the galaxy you have! no point in conquering other countries if you havent even discovered your own!
@Hayden Rhead yeah, but about 99% of the surface. that comparison doesnt really work.
Okay let’s be honest who would want to go into an empty abyss where there are thousands of light years between even the smallest celestial bodies
Nathan #7 not even close, take the distance from our star system to The closest one (Proxima Centauri) is about 4.2 light years, compare that to the space between the Milky Way and the closest galaxy to it (Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy) is at 25,000 light years
Nathan #7 that may or may not be purposeful
Nathan #7 yes
It's worth noting, that although intergalactic space in the Star Wars universe is uncharted, if it is anything like intergalactic space in reality, it is also very, very empty. Even without extensive mapping or Force-sensitive navigators, chances are they an intergalactic hyperjump is unlikely to run into anything until it approaches another galaxy.
Think of it this way, the Unknown Regions, which seem to have an unusual (compared with the rest of the main Star Wars galaxy) density of bizarre phenomena that disrupt hyperspace travel, whereas intergalactic space is comparatively empty. The Unknown Regions could simply be by-passed by preforming a hyperjump from say, Coruscant, to somewhere nicely above the galactic plane, now in the relatively empty intergalactic space, it would be easy to travel to another galaxy.
The Unknown Regions would appear to be analogous to a wild jungle or dense forest, easier to cross the vast sea than hack your way through the jungle.
Just my two cents, obviously things could work differently in the Star Wars universe, but it seems to present some interesting story options. For example, why not a past (or future) empire that decided it would be easier to scout out and subjugate a neighboring galaxy than to conquer the main galaxy. The British Empire after all did not conquer mainland Europe, but they did conquer a vast swath of North America and India.
YES. THANK YOU. Finally someone asking the important question.
Keep up the great content
I have always wondered this question
When you've covered videos on the Unknown Regions and the galactic barrier before, have you ever mentioned the in-universe theory that a "Dark Matter Galaxy" is passing through the Star Wars galaxy? Danni Quee brings it up during the search for Zonama Sekot. The theory goes that Dark Matter only interacts gravitationally with normal matter - you can't see it, you can't touch it, but it still causes mass shadows just like normal planets and stars. As this so-called "Dark Matter Galaxy" passes through the Star Wars galaxy, the mass shadows from the Dark Matter equivalents of stars and planets interact with those caused by normal stars and planets at different angles, causing the hyperlanes into and within the Unknown Regions, which is where the overlap is thought to be, to constantly change. I may have mentioned this before...
The dog 🐶 at the end 🤣👌💯
hmmmng the intro song still tingles me (HOME - Resonance)
Star wars takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.
4:00 Is... is that Crab Nebula?
I love how Eckharts only has ONE ad in the video
Truly speaks both to human curiosity and attention span that there are people who think we’ll ever run out of stuff to explore in the bounds of a single galaxy
If you estimate how fast they travel across the galaxy, if you compare distance between Milky Way and Andromeda it would take about 970+ years to get to their new galaxy unless they have some sort of teleportation.