The Milgauss. A cult classic but a watch that today also seems irrelevant. We chase them because of the character and quirks of the model but not its properties. So will it be discontinued or updated? A new caliber, maybe with some help from the Air-King? 🥃
I get the love for the Z-blue, but there is something about the matt black (almost geyish) dial + the green crystal that is just... perfection. A birth-year black dial 1019 is and will forever be my grail watch... one can only dream 😊 Greetings to all!
Although the Milgauss harks back to a time (pun intended) when magnetism was a bigger issue I would love for it to continue in its current guise but maybe add the later 3230 movement and some minor case re-profiling. I like the green crystal and the lightening bolt second hand as it adds that fun and character to the watch. Many mechanical watches still have ferrous metal balance springs but as you say there are a great many that are now more resilient to magnetic fields so it's less of an issue. You make a very good point though as to is this watch necessary now and that could also be the same for any mechanical watch. Tough solar powered digital watches have existed for years that do not require a mechanical service but we still buy mechanical watches with there little beating hearts, I guess they just feel that they are a little more 'organic' as like us unless they are fed they will stop, if they are not cared for when they they may die if they become ill.
There was a great suggestion earlier to make the piece titanium to spice it up too! Really like your point about adding a new cal (maybe a thinner cage too) Great points here Anthony! 🥃
I'd say try your utmost to find one soon... 2024 is the anniversary of these machines and something in my gut tells me that the current collection might just disappear. Always hard to know and I hope you manage to grab a Z-Blue, brother! 🥃
So many people slate it. Personally, I love it. Especially the Z-blue. Got mine last summer. If it’s dropped or changed considerably I’ll be even more thankful I own one.
The Z-blue Milgauss is my favourite current Roll-eye. The polished centre links are the only ‘non toolish’ aspect of the Watch that make it typically a piece of jewellery rather than a tool Watch which all Rolex have become unfortunately. If not discontinued this year I can only see something mild like crown guards being added to the Watch, just like happened to the Air-King. If only Rolex would look back to past references and do reissue takes on their designs they would have a whole new customer base. A 1019 reissued design would be amazing like you said. However, Rolex are too conservative for that and leave the experimental stuff to their baby brother - Tudor. Another thought provoking video here Boet. This is why we love your work. Keep it coming! ✊
Ah yes, another year another millgaus discontinued video. Its an ancient tradition, handed down for generations, its original purpose has been long forgotten, the tradition upheld for traditions sake.
@@papricep6248 yeah its wild that the milgauss straight up has less resistance than most standard sports models in the omega line up these days and still considers itself relevant to its namesake.
The Monochrome concept is pure class. I don't care if the bezel has no reason to be there😂 No one is actually using professional Rolex models for their intended purpose.
I love the monochrome concept. Only adjustment from my end would be to possibly bring back the waffle dial to add some more differences to a modern sub and maybe change the hands to sword/alpha style to give it the sharper look.
My z-blue Milgauss has a special spot in my collection. It shows that Swiss people actually do have a sense of humour. The modern version may have nothing to do with the original but it’s just a fun watch to wear and I love the chunky case with its quirky details on the hands and dial.
I'd like to see the Milgauss collection split into two, much like the Explorer. 1 would be the archetypical lab/research facility watch for engineers, scientist/doctors: clinical, professional, smart - perhaps in a couple of colours, one for the professionally minded and one for the more relaxed lab-coat wearer (SPACE BATS!!). The Milgauss 2 would be for the field engineer/doctor/scientist: rugged, precise, super legible, perhaps with some form of secondary timing aid. Alas, I suspect we'll get a new crown guard. Snore.
Like your take on this James and agree! Tonnes of potential to get a collection like the Sub v Deepsea Challenge in this family. Make the Milgauss "professional" able to withstand Chernobyl levels of radiation while they're at it😉
I tripped onto the Milgauss recently and I like it a lot! I also choose to follow the scientific method more than other shenanigans in life and the fact that this watch was made for scientists is Very Cool 😎
Waiting list was 1,5 years for Z-Blue and just got mine. So at least someone is buying them. For me it was THE watch even before I got into watches. Was able to cop just before my 30th birthday. Absolutely love it.
The Z-Blue Milgauss with orange lightning seconds hand is my favorite Rolex. If discontinued, I imagine prices for pre-owned models fluctuating drastically...which sucks 'cuz I'd want my first (and maybe only) Rolex to be the Z-Blue. Perhaps Rolex will do a refresh and deliver something incredible. But Rolex isn't "Born to Dare" and will likely cast off the Milgauss into retirement. Oh well... Cheers 🍺
I love my Z blue. I bought mine for a significant birthday a few years ago, when all the other steel models were readily available. As a designer, I love it’s quirky design qualities. And as someone who loves science and space, the CERN was appealing. And it’s introduction in my birth year, made it irresistible to me. It will always have a place in my collection.
It would be sweet if Rolex would recreate a ‘50s design into their current repertoire. Using the current movements in a retro design. Might that spark the market in a new way?
It's kinda sad to say that their models have to all follow the brief to the letter. Turning bezel, type of case, type of dial. We'd love to see that 50's jazz given to us though... but that's where Omega, Tudor and Longines steps in 😉
@@ID-Guy I made my comment prior to your renderings. Afterwards, I felt like I had restated your video. It would be refreshing though if Rolex stepped out of bounds and did a retro piece as Omega is so stellar in doing. Enjoy your Sunday evening
The Milgauss is a nice looking watch, and (dare I say it) nicer looking than an Air King and an Explorer! It is the lightning strike orange second hand! Another great video.
I went into town with my wife on our wedding anniversary back in 2019 and tried on a Milgauss (pre-owned, mint with all accessories) It was priced very well back then, however I could not get myself over the line every-time I looked down at my wrist ( the watch looked a little confused and a little out of place) Apart from a stylistic quirky look, this watch did not have any real purpose for me As for reintroducing it with some nice elements as you mentioned, food for thought 🥃
And we think how neatly the Aqua Terra addresses lots of these issues (without boasting about the 15k gauss resistance) Maybe we'll see some spice added to the new series soon enough 😉 Thanks as always m'boy. Hope you had a stellar weekend!
The watch that got me into Rolex and made me look up the watch in NGC which was my favorite. I love my black GV and consequently GMT. As an ingenieur i needed to have these in my collection. It is so easy to wear up and down, never out of place. Now still the IWC Ingenieur to add as well, waiting for a release that fits my small wrist.
Ah Theo, the Ingenieur... what a superb watch (definitely going to add this to my list for a future video) Also a fantastic story being an engineer and owning your Milgauss! 🥃
@@ID-Guy it is 🍷 for me this evening. Really made me look farther into the Rolex collection. Remembering a watch in NGC and found out that my favorite was the GMT. In 2013 i could get both. All the best and enjoy your whisky 🥃
Hockey puck is an understatement 😉 If they come out with a thinner cage for the movement and slot it into the Air King case... ah, they'd nail it! Not an impossibility either! 🥃
@@ID-Guy absolutely.... man I'm looking at the 38mm Aqua Terra these days. White dial. However not for a long time, as picking up a Specialized Chisel Comp bike, so I'll be broke for a few years
@@Valera_Scotland Superb hardtail you're chasing there 😉 And I've been thinking a lot about the AT lately. They really make for such a great all-rounder...
@@ID-Guy ah so you seem to know your bikes! Yep, it's been reserved. Picking it up soon. Can't wait! It's such a sweet bike Yeah man, the only thing I would change about the AT would be shave 1mm off thickness and give us a solid case back, like the 40mm Railmaster
The Airking update surprised me-it should have died. I suspect if the Airking survived so will the Milgauss. I do like the Z-blue and the white dial Milgauss but wouldn’t lose any sleep if the line was discontinued.
You and me both Underachieving. The MG now stealing the AK's case and spicing it up! Crazy how it's always been one of those back catalog models... throughout its entire life 😆
Great video, thanks for putting it together. Man, I’d love to see a Milgauss with a rotating ceramic bezel. But you’re right, will probably never happen. My thought on the current Milgauss being around so long is because it basically follows the trajectory of the demand increase of all models. I remember several years back at my AD they had a couple Milgauss in stock and they mentioned it takes a certain type of buyer for them (I’ve always loved them). Then, like every model, you just couldn’t find them anywhere.
Amazing how things have changed in this hobby of ours BUT maybe, just maybe, things will die down in time (especially after 2020 and all the mania that ensued) Thanks for sharing this brother and great take on the continuity of the Milgauss 🥃
How about upgrading regular Oyster Perpetuals to have Milguass level of anti magnetism? I see no reason to have a separate product instead of upgrading the existing products, other than marketing. But I think watch enthusiasts would appreciate more if the magnetism resistance is applied to all Rolex instead of having a random watch.
Great point Hugh. Similar to Omega (who don't boast about the properties much any more) All of their pieces are rated at 15k as standard - as it should be 😉
I hope it doesn't get discontinued before I am able to buy it. I love the Z- blue, but also the black dial. I would love to buy both. If I could have just one watch, This would be it. The Z blue reminds me of an old HMT watch my mother had with similar dial color and texture, can't remember the model name. I really enjoy your videos 👍
I'll be holding thumbs that I'm not correct... with the new collection this year (and rolex Removes the milgauss until 2024 and the new release) Try and snag a Z-Blue before the madness kicks in Simmy 😉
I think it's the most interesting Rolex watch. But unless you have money to spare, you wouldnt go for it, but for a more "normal" watch that you can use in every occasion. I hope it gets refreshed and updated, but not sedated. I think it's the AirKing that's the dog of the range and it only sells over an OP or DJ because it's a rolex and it might be more available than the rest.
Great video once again! I really like your design proposal for the Milgauss of the future. It comes across almost as a "sporty" Oyster Perpetual and plays well on the Milgauss history while being sharp and modern. An interpretation that would inspire someone like me, not a Rolex "Fanboy," to look at Rolex as a potential future purchase. I wonder, could the design you proposed come with the LV green crystal and a different dial colour as a variant?
Love your black and white ‘boring’ variants… only concern with the domed bezel getting scratched when using in the workplace… not sure of the solution other than a static bezel.
Those bezels are almost always going to get scratched, you're right. And there isn't really much of a solution from Rolex's side on remedying it either (their pieces need that bling factor) 😉
It'd surprise me if they ditched the GV that , as we know , is so difficult to make that they didn't even patent it. I think we should probably take into account Rolex' glacial pace. I expect a Z Blue + one other color in the new AK case. With the syloxi hairspring that they have been hiding in ladies models. Just my 2 cents!
You're right about the crystal and the new mvmt. It would be excellent for them to just squeeze in a few new touches (maybe a thinner cage as well) Great points here Michael 🥃
@@ID-GuyAs neat and tidy as the discontinued OP 39’s..I was offered any one of the 5 at the AD placed in front of me, together withe the Z Blue, but decided not to buy..we all have regrets..The Milgauss 39 would be a winner in today’s market undoubtedly…
@@Giovan_Nino And I remember being offered a Hulk & Explorer 2 Polar back in 2015... but of course I'd just graduated university then and had no cash whatsoever... horror stories 😆 Funny how things change and where we end up heading!
Love the Zed Bleu but it's pointless. The outdated faraday cage is unnecessary due to improved materials not to mention makes the watch top heavy. The latest Omegas are embarrassingly levels more anti magnetic. I'm genuinely curious what Rolex will end up doing with the lineup.
Who wouldn't want to work on something where the only design spec is the shape of the seconds hand? It doesn't have to be entry-level, doesn't have to have a date, doesn't have to have a rotating bezel, it can just be fun...but doesn't have to be. What a great watch to have in your range!
Those tapering baton hands on that one old reference would be a subtle but nice variation on the theme. I believe that the milgauss needs a few new idiosyncratic elements sprinkled on top of it to shine. That red arrow second hand would be another welcome resurgence.
I think Rolex could hit out of the park if they'd make it with a rotating bezel, even with a Datograph style one. Thanks buddy for the great video 👍🏽👍🏽
Loved our banter yesterday Abdul and thank you! Still so envious of you in the desert... coming out of Africa and experiencing European winters...I'd kill for it right now 😉🥃
@@ID-Guy Was my pleasure, enjoyed it a lot, thank you 😁🙏🏽🙏🏽 Hehe yeah, the weather here is heating up, 27C and sunny weather, I don't want to go back to cold Europe anymore 🤣 but have to soon 😢
from a quick glance it could pass as an OP. I work in a high voltage environment and an older co-worker has a milgauss because he thought it was apropos. it just didn't evoke any feeling or desire to want one personally. i too was surprised by the redesign of the airking, maybe the milgauss will have the same fate.
Very interesting to read this testimonial. Deep down, I'd feel the same. Find it fascinating that Omega with their 15k mvmts as standard don't feel the need to promote their capabilities anymore 😉
It's an enigma simply because we don't know actual Milgauss sales figures. Only real reason to discontinue is the reference is not selling enough. But yes, we all love to speculate, so bring it on 😊
Is it possible that the purpose of continuing the Milguass line is to keep everyone talking about Rolex? It's not the number of Milguass watches they sell but rather the amount of advertising it represents for the brand. Every year will it be discontinued, changed, the history of the line...it strikes me that the brand discussion and advertising Rolex receives for free is a factor. That being said I do like the Milguass but I purchased the J.C. Deepsea instead
Great point. All things considered, it's a very nice talking point (especially for those who don't really get the current capabilities of modern watch movements and their anti-magnetic properties) Great advertising all round! 🥃
Great video thank you - I've had the green Milly & loved the squirkiness but did not fall in love for a slightly misty dial in real life & as said below no micro adjust - In the UK we can have 4 seasons in 1 day. All watches should have some form of on-the fly-adjust.
Squirkiness! 😉 It's a big detractor that so many pieces don't have that adjust... feels so bizarre in 2023. Probably why I stick primarily to straps these days (especially the change in weather factoring in) Hope you've had a grand weekend Chilli!
@@ID-Guy ha ha yes a rogue "s" made a new word - As a daily wear I prefer a rubber type strap - I cycle along the coast from Brighton to Worthing to work & your wrists can expand or contract so buckle type is the easiest to overcome my chicken in cold or bloated wrists when warm scenario.
Maybe underappreciated because it does not confer bragging rights which are essential for most so-called watch enthusiasts. But what the Z Blue lacks in flex factor, it has in spades in beauty. And who really needs yet another bloody back-dialled sports watch with a rotating bezel ?
I bought my first milgauss at 19 years old and turned alot of heads with it bit ended up selling it, 5 years later i wanted another milgauss ,had it for years now and im thinking about putting dimonds on the case and keeping the alligator strap i have on it.
Funny that you mention these watches. As I'm not able to afford a rolex, i bought the Pagani homage of the 126900 Air King, and both black and blue Milgauss homages. I don't remember having had so many complements for a watch, ever. Unreal conversation starter. In the next couple of years I will be able to afford one of the real ones and I'm defo going for it.
It believe it was a variation of the turn-o-graph bezel, where the 1 would signify 10 and the 2 would signify 20. Basically just like any other timing bezel BUT it had a point of difference next to the Sub & GMT of the time. Style for style sake at the end of the day 😉
I think you have hit the Swiss luxury Rolex branded nail on it's head. Where there's a fool to be easily parted from their money there's a Rolex customer.
Dear Mr ID Guy. The Milgauss. I couldn’t decide between this and the Airking. The Airking won but I do still want that Milgauss. Hope you’re doing well mate. ❤
Uprated movement for sure if it is going to carry on. A simpler looking watch would be good but I'd like to see the quirky second hand survive as a long tern identifier.
Wow the rotating bezel is beautiful, if they bring that back it'll outsell the submariner. 8:17 1000% i use the bezel for cooking and use it as a timer.
Congrats on the MN23 😉 I'm about to add yet another strap to the collection for mine... BUT now would be a great time to throw the milgauss on for a week! Nothing better than "forgetting" about a watch and being reacquainted with it again!
IDGuy seems to understand ROLEX best here on YT and all what you said helps to explain why I gave away my Millgauss years ago although I have a large and well diversified collection established over 30 years. Still eagerly awaiting the revamped Daytona bi-colour. Like to get your view on the style …
I love the Z-Blue Milgauss as it is. It’s my favorite contemporary Rolex. I hope they keep it and just upgrade the movement. Maybe make it the first Rolex sports watch to incorporate the brand’s silicon hairspring. Currently only used on some of their ladies watches for some reason 🤷♂️ it would fit in with the Milgauss’s history as an anti-magnetic engineers watch, as silicon is completely non-magnetic, unlike Rolex’s Parachrom hairsprings.
The only place where i could see it is with audio technicians who handle loudspeakers. People who are on tour with the big names and think they are to wealthy to wear g shock or Tissot. Even a Doctor working in the area of a mrt propably doesn't earn enough to pay market prices, even if a white variant would be fitting.
I think how the back of the hands extend past the pinion plus the lightning bolt design is why I’ve always been put off, adds that visual clutter on the face that is too much for me.
It acts like a 10 - 50 on a regular bezel. So 1=10 and so on. I think this was just a style over substance choice in the 50's to differ it from the turnograph, Sub and GMT 😉
Thanks for the video! I think the last generation of Milgauss has put the model into luxury and furthest from the tool watch it used to be. With no longer any purpose (all models are now anti-magnetic), I fear Rolex won’t have the courage to bring it back with a bezel etc. I suspect they will give it the same treatment as the air king (as you said). If they could go further than that, it would be great, but Rolex hasn’t been going in that direction. We shall see! 👍
Watch them just throw the ZBlue dial into the new Air King case and call it a day. I like your idea to turn the Milgauss into a rebirth of the 39mm Oyster Perpetual!
Honestly, I don't like that mockup Milgauss. I LIKE the current Milgauss because it's sooo different fro all the other Rolex's. Its only similarity is the case and bracelet. I wish it would get even more unique on both of those counts. The Milgauss is Rolex letting its hair down. The mockup makes it look like an only slightly tweaked Sub. We already have those: Sub, Sea Dweller, Super Ocean, GMT. Take your pick. That look is covered sufficiently. Now, if you want to take that mockup, add back the orange hand, the colored dial, and the colored glass...nooooow we're talkin!
The best Milgauss would be the following: White Dial Black hour markers Black hands Dark grey lightning bolt Dark grey Milgauss on dial Rotating bezel (similar to turno graph or original bezel it came out with)
Love your designs; although I’d want the lightning bolt to survive. Would like to see it survive with a meaningful update - but won’t fall out of my chair if it gets the axe.
Really good point Frank. To keep that story going on with a simple black and white dial would be amazing! Such a neat touch to make these pieces feel that touch more unique 🥃
I have black dial gv, it's not exactly the easiest watch to match unless you prefer dressing yourself in a monotone colour most of the time, which I do. I paired it with a curved end black rubber strap with deployant clasp, the unique green crystal and quirky orange second hand just giving the right mix of pop, doesn't scream like crazy, and I love it. In fact l, I like most unpopular rolexs rather than the usual bling bling sub / GMTs. Should Rolex choose to discontinue it.... fine by me lol, wouldn't make me like it any less.
A mechanical or solar watch is like a trusted well worn pocket knife. In the right hands is a invaluable companion. Sadly, watches have dropped from being the trusted companion to being a piece of fashion jewelry.
Irrelevant watch…. I’ve liked some of the dials (white dial especially) but the premise is obviously purely historic, they need to come out with a new line. But only after they catch up with the demand for the watches they already make.
Yes, pigs can fly and the Monochrome version of the Milgauss deserves to be made. The thing about the rotating bezel is, I think, more of a marketing challenge than it is to find some inherent rationale for its existence. Why not combine the antimagnetic qualities of Milgauss with this bezel to track a second timezone; its eminently practical, cost effective, and not often seen as one of the few that come to mind is on the bezel of the Tudor Heritage Chronograph, Monte Carlo. Anyway, one can dream of flying pigs and a new interpretation of the Milgauss.
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The Milgauss. A cult classic but a watch that today also seems irrelevant. We chase them because of the character and quirks of the model but not its properties. So will it be discontinued or updated? A new caliber, maybe with some help from the Air-King? 🥃
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The milgauss z blue is easily one on the most beautiful Rolex’s.
Can't deny the beauty of that dial. Same as the Hulk dial, the Z-blue reigns supreme! 🥃
I get the love for the Z-blue, but there is something about the matt black (almost geyish) dial + the green crystal that is just... perfection. A birth-year black dial 1019 is and will forever be my grail watch... one can only dream 😊
Greetings to all!
Although the Milgauss harks back to a time (pun intended) when magnetism was a bigger issue I would love for it to continue in its current guise but maybe add the later 3230 movement and some minor case re-profiling. I like the green crystal and the lightening bolt second hand as it adds that fun and character to the watch. Many mechanical watches still have ferrous metal balance springs but as you say there are a great many that are now more resilient to magnetic fields so it's less of an issue. You make a very good point though as to is this watch necessary now and that could also be the same for any mechanical watch. Tough solar powered digital watches have existed for years that do not require a mechanical service but we still buy mechanical watches with there little beating hearts, I guess they just feel that they are a little more 'organic' as like us unless they are fed they will stop, if they are not cared for when they they may die if they become ill.
There was a great suggestion earlier to make the piece titanium to spice it up too! Really like your point about adding a new cal (maybe a thinner cage too) Great points here Anthony! 🥃
The Z Blue version is my personal Grail and I hope they don't discontinue it
I'd say try your utmost to find one soon... 2024 is the anniversary of these machines and something in my gut tells me that the current collection might just disappear. Always hard to know and I hope you manage to grab a Z-Blue, brother! 🥃
So many people slate it. Personally, I love it. Especially the Z-blue. Got mine last summer. If it’s dropped or changed considerably I’ll be even more thankful I own one.
Absolutely sensational watch.
I'm also a lover of those popular brands that have obscure watches in their collection. The MG definitely has all of that jazz 😉
The Z-blue Milgauss is my favourite current Roll-eye. The polished centre links are the only ‘non toolish’ aspect of the Watch that make it typically a piece of jewellery rather than a tool Watch which all Rolex have become unfortunately.
If not discontinued this year I can only see something mild like crown guards being added to the Watch, just like happened to the Air-King.
If only Rolex would look back to past references and do reissue takes on their designs they would have a whole new customer base. A 1019 reissued design would be amazing like you said. However, Rolex are too conservative for that and leave the experimental stuff to their baby brother - Tudor.
Another thought provoking video here Boet. This is why we love your work. Keep it coming! ✊
Ah yes, another year another millgaus discontinued video. Its an ancient tradition, handed down for generations, its original purpose has been long forgotten, the tradition upheld for traditions sake.
Where would we be without our traditions?? 😆 Classic. I feel that the Air-King could maybe spur on the Milgauss in 2024?
It's wild that you can buy a 2023 Rolex with a 3135 movement.
@@papricep6248 yeah its wild that the milgauss straight up has less resistance than most standard sports models in the omega line up these days and still considers itself relevant to its namesake.
I mean, it's fair. Nobody buys then. Personally, I've only seen one on the wrist in the wild.
The Monochrome concept is pure class. I don't care if the bezel has no reason to be there😂 No one is actually using professional Rolex models for their intended purpose.
I agree man... It's a thing of understated beauty! Many, many of us would have it in a heartbeat 😉
I love the monochrome concept. Only adjustment from my end would be to possibly bring back the waffle dial to add some more differences to a modern sub and maybe change the hands to sword/alpha style to give it the sharper look.
My z-blue Milgauss has a special spot in my collection. It shows that Swiss people actually do have a sense of humour. The modern version may have nothing to do with the original but it’s just a fun watch to wear and I love the chunky case with its quirky details on the hands and dial.
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I'd like to see the Milgauss collection split into two, much like the Explorer. 1 would be the archetypical lab/research facility watch for engineers, scientist/doctors: clinical, professional, smart - perhaps in a couple of colours, one for the professionally minded and one for the more relaxed lab-coat wearer (SPACE BATS!!). The Milgauss 2 would be for the field engineer/doctor/scientist: rugged, precise, super legible, perhaps with some form of secondary timing aid. Alas, I suspect we'll get a new crown guard. Snore.
Like your take on this James and agree! Tonnes of potential to get a collection like the Sub v Deepsea Challenge in this family. Make the Milgauss "professional" able to withstand Chernobyl levels of radiation while they're at it😉
I like your idea. Im a field engineer, a watch without day/date is not a field watch!
I tripped onto the Milgauss recently and I like it a lot! I also choose to follow the scientific method more than other shenanigans in life and the fact that this watch was made for scientists is Very Cool 😎
Always liked the green glass Milgauss. The Thunderbolt second hand gives it a certain playfulness that I often miss with Rolex Models...
Waiting list was 1,5 years for Z-Blue and just got mine. So at least someone is buying them. For me it was THE watch even before I got into watches. Was able to cop just before my 30th birthday. Absolutely love it.
The Z-Blue Milgauss with orange lightning seconds hand is my favorite Rolex. If discontinued, I imagine prices for pre-owned models fluctuating drastically...which sucks 'cuz I'd want my first (and maybe only) Rolex to be the Z-Blue.
Perhaps Rolex will do a refresh and deliver something incredible. But Rolex isn't "Born to Dare" and will likely cast off the Milgauss into retirement. Oh well...
Cheers 🍺
I love my Z blue. I bought mine for a significant birthday a few years ago, when all the other steel models were readily available. As a designer, I love it’s quirky design qualities. And as someone who loves science and space, the CERN was appealing. And it’s introduction in my birth year, made it irresistible to me. It will always have a place in my collection.
It would be sweet if Rolex would recreate a ‘50s design into their current repertoire. Using the current movements in a retro design. Might that spark the market in a new way?
It's kinda sad to say that their models have to all follow the brief to the letter. Turning bezel, type of case, type of dial. We'd love to see that 50's jazz given to us though... but that's where Omega, Tudor and Longines steps in 😉
@@ID-Guy I made my comment prior to your renderings. Afterwards, I felt like I had restated your video. It would be refreshing though if Rolex stepped out of bounds and did a retro piece as Omega is so stellar in doing. Enjoy your Sunday evening
The z-blue is absolutely gorgeous. The watch that got me into Rolex.
6543 is cool, it’s also answers the question what if a sub had an applied logo on the dial just like a Daytona. I think it looks cool!
Rolex should dig into applied logo's more, absolutely! Fantastic point Kevin. An expensive addition BUT adds so much more class to a dial...
The Milgauss is a nice looking watch, and (dare I say it) nicer looking than an Air King and an Explorer! It is the lightning strike orange second hand! Another great video.
One of the few pieces out there where "pop of colour" makes the biggest impact 😉 Thank you Pooh!
I went into town with my wife on our wedding anniversary back in 2019 and tried on a Milgauss (pre-owned, mint with all accessories)
It was priced very well back then, however I could not get myself over the line every-time I looked down at my wrist ( the watch looked a little confused and a little out of place)
Apart from a stylistic quirky look, this watch did not have any real purpose for me
As for reintroducing it with some nice elements as you mentioned, food for thought 🥃
And we think how neatly the Aqua Terra addresses lots of these issues (without boasting about the 15k gauss resistance) Maybe we'll see some spice added to the new series soon enough 😉 Thanks as always m'boy. Hope you had a stellar weekend!
The milgauss has all the makings of a timeless classic. From hating it. I now want it more than any other Rolex!!
That black and red mock up you did is amazing. I would want to get on the list for that exact watch immediately. Great video!
Thanks so much David. Amazing how such a simple format can be so efficient at the same time. Ah, we can only hope (as usual) 😉
I'm on the list for a black one. Hope it doesn't get discontinued!
Holding thumbs for you brother! 🥃
The watch that got me into Rolex and made me look up the watch in NGC which was my favorite. I love my black GV and consequently GMT. As an ingenieur i needed to have these in my collection. It is so easy to wear up and down, never out of place.
Now still the IWC Ingenieur to add as well, waiting for a release that fits my small wrist.
Ah Theo, the Ingenieur... what a superb watch (definitely going to add this to my list for a future video) Also a fantastic story being an engineer and owning your Milgauss! 🥃
@@ID-Guy it is 🍷 for me this evening. Really made me look farther into the Rolex collection. Remembering a watch in NGC and found out that my favorite was the GMT. In 2013 i could get both.
All the best and enjoy your whisky 🥃
I'd love this in a thinner smaller case with micro adjust. It's a beauty, but I always found it a real chunky boy
Hockey puck is an understatement 😉 If they come out with a thinner cage for the movement and slot it into the Air King case... ah, they'd nail it! Not an impossibility either! 🥃
@@ID-Guy absolutely.... man I'm looking at the 38mm Aqua Terra these days. White dial. However not for a long time, as picking up a Specialized Chisel Comp bike, so I'll be broke for a few years
@@Valera_Scotland Superb hardtail you're chasing there 😉 And I've been thinking a lot about the AT lately. They really make for such a great all-rounder...
@@ID-Guy ah so you seem to know your bikes! Yep, it's been reserved. Picking it up soon. Can't wait! It's such a sweet bike
Yeah man, the only thing I would change about the AT would be shave 1mm off thickness and give us a solid case back, like the 40mm Railmaster
The Airking update surprised me-it should have died. I suspect if the Airking survived so will the Milgauss.
I do like the Z-blue and the white dial Milgauss but wouldn’t lose any sleep if the line was discontinued.
You and me both Underachieving. The MG now stealing the AK's case and spicing it up! Crazy how it's always been one of those back catalog models... throughout its entire life 😆
Great video, thanks for putting it together.
Man, I’d love to see a Milgauss with a rotating ceramic bezel. But you’re right, will probably never happen.
My thought on the current Milgauss being around so long is because it basically follows the trajectory of the demand increase of all models.
I remember several years back at my AD they had a couple Milgauss in stock and they mentioned it takes a certain type of buyer for them (I’ve always loved them).
Then, like every model, you just couldn’t find them anywhere.
Amazing how things have changed in this hobby of ours BUT maybe, just maybe, things will die down in time (especially after 2020 and all the mania that ensued) Thanks for sharing this brother and great take on the continuity of the Milgauss 🥃
How about upgrading regular Oyster Perpetuals to have Milguass level of anti magnetism?
I see no reason to have a separate product instead of upgrading the existing products, other than marketing.
But I think watch enthusiasts would appreciate more if the magnetism resistance is applied to all Rolex instead of having a random watch.
Great point Hugh. Similar to Omega (who don't boast about the properties much any more) All of their pieces are rated at 15k as standard - as it should be 😉
I hope it doesn't get discontinued before I am able to buy it. I love the Z- blue, but also the black dial. I would love to buy both. If I could have just one watch, This would be it. The Z blue reminds me of an old HMT watch my mother had with similar dial color and texture, can't remember the model name. I really enjoy your videos 👍
I'll be holding thumbs that I'm not correct... with the new collection this year (and rolex Removes the milgauss until 2024 and the new release) Try and snag a Z-Blue before the madness kicks in Simmy 😉
@@ID-Guy 👍 Thanks. I hooe I am able to 🙂☺️
2023 Public: “Update the Milgauss”
2023 Rolex: “Here comes a left-handed Milgauss”
You just know it's gonna happen, right? 😉 Something tells me 2024 will be the year (lining up with the 70th Anniversary)
I think it's the most interesting Rolex watch. But unless you have money to spare, you wouldnt go for it, but for a more "normal" watch that you can use in every occasion. I hope it gets refreshed and updated, but not sedated. I think it's the AirKing that's the dog of the range and it only sells over an OP or DJ because it's a rolex and it might be more available than the rest.
Great video once again! I really like your design proposal for the Milgauss of the future. It comes across almost as a "sporty" Oyster Perpetual and plays well on the Milgauss history while being sharp and modern. An interpretation that would inspire someone like me, not a Rolex "Fanboy," to look at Rolex as a potential future purchase.
I wonder, could the design you proposed come with the LV green crystal and a different dial colour as a variant?
Love your black and white ‘boring’ variants… only concern with the domed bezel getting scratched when using in the workplace… not sure of the solution other than a static bezel.
Those bezels are almost always going to get scratched, you're right. And there isn't really much of a solution from Rolex's side on remedying it either (their pieces need that bling factor) 😉
I prefer your white and black dial variants without the rotating bezel. Nice job! I believe this is finally the year for a new Milgauss
It'd surprise me if they ditched the GV that , as we know , is so difficult to make that they didn't even patent it. I think we should probably take into account Rolex' glacial pace. I expect a Z Blue + one other color in the new AK case. With the syloxi hairspring that they have been hiding in ladies models. Just my 2 cents!
Funny how the small ladies sized Rolex with the syloxi hairspring is way more antimagnetic than the current Milgauss.
You're right about the crystal and the new mvmt. It would be excellent for them to just squeeze in a few new touches (maybe a thinner cage as well) Great points here Michael 🥃
That black dial Oyster Perpetual Milgauss interpretation…👌
Maybe too neat and tidy? They have tonnes of options to work with though and thank you Giovan! 🥃
@@ID-GuyAs neat and tidy as the discontinued OP 39’s..I was offered any one of the 5 at the AD placed in front of me, together withe the Z Blue, but decided not to buy..we all have regrets..The Milgauss 39 would be a winner in today’s market undoubtedly…
@@Giovan_Nino And I remember being offered a Hulk & Explorer 2 Polar back in 2015... but of course I'd just graduated university then and had no cash whatsoever... horror stories 😆 Funny how things change and where we end up heading!
Love the concept but wonder if orange (borrowing from more recent Milgaus) over red would make sense
Your interpretation with the black dial and red accents is a watch I would buy right now. One can hope!
Thank you Branden! One can hope... it feels "on brand" BUT then again... they could just discontinue the collection altogether 😆
Love the Zed Bleu but it's pointless. The outdated faraday cage is unnecessary due to improved materials not to mention makes the watch top heavy. The latest Omegas are embarrassingly levels more anti magnetic.
I'm genuinely curious what Rolex will end up doing with the lineup.
Who wouldn't want to work on something where the only design spec is the shape of the seconds hand? It doesn't have to be entry-level, doesn't have to have a date, doesn't have to have a rotating bezel, it can just be fun...but doesn't have to be. What a great watch to have in your range!
I’d love to see a Milgauss reboot based on the old 1019 complete with its poison tipped Daytona second hand, but with a Turn-o-Graph rotating bezel.
Those tapering baton hands on that one old reference would be a subtle but nice variation on the theme. I believe that the milgauss needs a few new idiosyncratic elements sprinkled on top of it to shine. That red arrow second hand would be another welcome resurgence.
I was able to purchase the z blue last year. It has been my favorite watch for many years and im so proud to finally own one
I think Rolex could hit out of the park if they'd make it with a rotating bezel, even with a Datograph style one. Thanks buddy for the great video 👍🏽👍🏽
Loved our banter yesterday Abdul and thank you! Still so envious of you in the desert... coming out of Africa and experiencing European winters...I'd kill for it right now 😉🥃
@@ID-Guy Was my pleasure, enjoyed it a lot, thank you 😁🙏🏽🙏🏽 Hehe yeah, the weather here is heating up, 27C and sunny weather, I don't want to go back to cold Europe anymore 🤣 but have to soon 😢
from a quick glance it could pass as an OP. I work in a high voltage environment and an older co-worker has a milgauss because he thought it was apropos. it just didn't evoke any feeling or desire to want one personally. i too was surprised by the redesign of the airking, maybe the milgauss will have the same fate.
Very interesting to read this testimonial. Deep down, I'd feel the same. Find it fascinating that Omega with their 15k mvmts as standard don't feel the need to promote their capabilities anymore 😉
Monochrome’s design is incredible. But I equally love your redesign. It has hints of an Explorer I 114270. I’d love it in a 36 or 38mm format.
It's an enigma simply because we don't know actual Milgauss sales figures. Only real reason to discontinue is the reference is not selling enough. But yes, we all love to speculate, so bring it on 😊
Is it possible that the purpose of continuing the Milguass line is to keep everyone talking about Rolex? It's not the number of Milguass watches they sell but rather the amount of advertising it represents for the brand. Every year will it be discontinued, changed, the history of the line...it strikes me that the brand discussion and advertising Rolex receives for free is a factor. That being said I do like the Milguass but I purchased the J.C. Deepsea instead
Great point. All things considered, it's a very nice talking point (especially for those who don't really get the current capabilities of modern watch movements and their anti-magnetic properties) Great advertising all round! 🥃
Kudos ID Guy. Indeed so much potential and seemingly limitless potential, but alas, it's Rolex. One can hope. Cheers
A pleasure to always share Mez and thank you brother!🥃
Excellent closing line as always.
It's all redundant every way we look at it 😉
Great video thank you - I've had the green Milly & loved the squirkiness but did not fall in love for a slightly misty dial in real life & as said below no micro adjust - In the UK we can have 4 seasons in 1 day. All watches should have some form of on-the fly-adjust.
Squirkiness! 😉 It's a big detractor that so many pieces don't have that adjust... feels so bizarre in 2023. Probably why I stick primarily to straps these days (especially the change in weather factoring in) Hope you've had a grand weekend Chilli!
@@ID-Guy ha ha yes a rogue "s" made a new word - As a daily wear I prefer a rubber type strap - I cycle along the coast from Brighton to Worthing to work & your wrists can expand or contract so buckle type is the easiest to overcome my chicken in cold or bloated wrists when warm scenario.
Maybe underappreciated because it does not confer bragging rights which are essential for most so-called watch enthusiasts. But what the Z Blue lacks in flex factor, it has in spades in beauty. And who really needs yet another bloody back-dialled sports watch with a rotating bezel ?
Right on all accounts Luc! 🥃
I bought my first milgauss at 19 years old and turned alot of heads with it bit ended up selling it, 5 years later i wanted another milgauss ,had it for years now and im thinking about putting dimonds on the case and keeping the alligator strap i have on it.
Funny that you mention these watches. As I'm not able to afford a rolex, i bought the Pagani homage of the 126900 Air King, and both black and blue Milgauss homages. I don't remember having had so many complements for a watch, ever. Unreal conversation starter. In the next couple of years I will be able to afford one of the real ones and I'm defo going for it.
I love my Z blue Milgauss. Got it in 2020. Underrated Watch. I will keep this Watch my entire life.
An you explain the older milgaus bezel and what the numbers mean on it?
It believe it was a variation of the turn-o-graph bezel, where the 1 would signify 10 and the 2 would signify 20. Basically just like any other timing bezel BUT it had a point of difference next to the Sub & GMT of the time. Style for style sake at the end of the day 😉
I think they've survived because like most Rolex watches they are luxury statement pieces and not the tools they were originally intended to be.
Wish I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard someone say this 🙄
I think you have hit the Swiss luxury Rolex branded nail on it's head. Where there's a fool to be easily parted from their money there's a Rolex customer.
And the current Z-Blue definitely feels way more fashion over function 😉🥃
Dear Mr ID Guy.
The Milgauss.
I couldn’t decide between this and the Airking.
The Airking won but I do still want that Milgauss.
Hope you’re doing well mate. ❤
Were you suggesting at the one minute mark that the 116900 Air-King doesn't have a farraday cage?
They gotta keep the green sapphire. I love it
Uprated movement for sure if it is going to carry on. A simpler looking watch would be good but I'd like to see the quirky second hand survive as a long tern identifier.
There was great mention to include a red lightning hand? I agree, the bolt needs to bring that jazz for the future 🥃
1019 a favourite reference without a doubt. As for the Air-King it has to be the 5500 or 14000.
That 1019 is so elusive... and fully agree on the 5500! Such a charmer! I've been fortunate to experience a few and they truly are awesome lil cases 🥃
Wow the rotating bezel is beautiful, if they bring that back it'll outsell the submariner. 8:17 1000% i use the bezel for cooking and use it as a timer.
I currently have a Milgauss Black dial GV (2014)
But no wrist time for ages.
Tudor MN23 gets it 24/7
Congrats on the MN23 😉 I'm about to add yet another strap to the collection for mine... BUT now would be a great time to throw the milgauss on for a week! Nothing better than "forgetting" about a watch and being reacquainted with it again!
IDGuy seems to understand ROLEX best here on YT and all what you said helps to explain why I gave away my Millgauss years ago although I have a large and well diversified collection established over 30 years. Still eagerly awaiting the revamped Daytona bi-colour. Like to get your view on the style …
I love the Z-Blue Milgauss as it is. It’s my favorite contemporary Rolex. I hope they keep it and just upgrade the movement. Maybe make it the first Rolex sports watch to incorporate the brand’s silicon hairspring. Currently only used on some of their ladies watches for some reason 🤷♂️ it would fit in with the Milgauss’s history as an anti-magnetic engineers watch, as silicon is completely non-magnetic, unlike Rolex’s Parachrom hairsprings.
Is it only popular since 2017 when the good stuff became unavailable? ;)
Isn't that the case with everything these days? 😉
@@ID-Guy Sad but true …….
Exactly
The only place where i could see it is with audio technicians who handle loudspeakers. People who are on tour with the big names and think they are to wealthy to wear g shock or Tissot.
Even a Doctor working in the area of a mrt propably doesn't earn enough to pay market prices, even if a white variant would be fitting.
This made me chuckle (especially the last line 😆) Great comment brother!
Imagine Rolex goes extreme, like the Deepsea Challenge, and release an updated version resistant to a million gauss - the Milligauss 🤓
The Picogauss, Googlegauss. The Sky is the limit! 😆🔥
I need to pick up a Milgauss under $10k while I can. I think it is my favorite Rolex, next to the Milsub.
And it's never too soon to pick these pieces up. There really is no knowing when they might suddenly disappear out of the catalog 🥃
If you put a red lightning bolt second hand on that black dial render it would be perfect...
In a world a boring Rolex models, the milgauss is beautiful. T shirt or a suit. Pop of color. It’s a gem.
I think how the back of the hands extend past the pinion plus the lightning bolt design is why I’ve always been put off, adds that visual clutter on the face that is too much for me.
Does anyone know what the Milgauss bezel from 1 - 5 does?
It acts like a 10 - 50 on a regular bezel. So 1=10 and so on. I think this was just a style over substance choice in the 50's to differ it from the turnograph, Sub and GMT 😉
Awesome prediction I’m scurry how I always agree with you 😅😂 will see new watches next week 😉👍
Nothing like building up our expectations only to be disappointed 😉 Thank you brother 🥃
Black red dial now named the Roulette dial!!! I would buy that one
They will probably update it with a tiffany dial and call it a Tiffgaus.
Tiffguass. I reckon Rolex should Tiff everything they have now (just to destroy the industry completely) then maybe brands can slowly rebuild 😆
Thanks for the video! I think the last generation of Milgauss has put the model into luxury and furthest from the tool watch it used to be. With no longer any purpose (all models are now anti-magnetic), I fear Rolex won’t have the courage to bring it back with a bezel etc. I suspect they will give it the same treatment as the air king (as you said). If they could go further than that, it would be great, but Rolex hasn’t been going in that direction. We shall see! 👍
I could not agree more! There are only 2 Rolex’s I desire. Milgauss is one of them.
Watch them just throw the ZBlue dial into the new Air King case and call it a day. I like your idea to turn the Milgauss into a rebirth of the 39mm Oyster Perpetual!
The Z Blue with the Green Sapphire is awesome!!
Cool video, like the new interpretation of the milguass you made, !!
Love my GV but would die for a carbon fiber dial, lightning bolt second hand, rot bezel'ed reinterpretation of the OG.
An anthracite dial and maybe a titanium case? So many options to spice these up! Dig your thoughts 🥃
This milgauss blue dial is so F..king beautiful piece
Honestly, I don't like that mockup Milgauss. I LIKE the current Milgauss because it's sooo different fro all the other Rolex's. Its only similarity is the case and bracelet. I wish it would get even more unique on both of those counts. The Milgauss is Rolex letting its hair down. The mockup makes it look like an only slightly tweaked Sub. We already have those: Sub, Sea Dweller, Super Ocean, GMT. Take your pick. That look is covered sufficiently.
Now, if you want to take that mockup, add back the orange hand, the colored dial, and the colored glass...nooooow we're talkin!
The best Milgauss would be the following:
White Dial
Black hour markers
Black hands
Dark grey lightning bolt
Dark grey Milgauss on dial
Rotating bezel (similar to turno graph or original bezel it came out with)
The question is, if it gets upgraded, can they surpass OMEGA, 15 ,000 Gauss, that is the biggest issue 🤔 in my view.
Love your designs; although I’d want the lightning bolt to survive.
Would like to see it survive with a meaningful update - but won’t fall out of my chair if it gets the axe.
Doesn’t even matter. Rolex doesn’t even want to sell us watches.
Why does it demand a significan premium at MSRP over the Oyster Perpetual, when it's basically the same watch?
wouldn’t you think that the green glass is unique, not only among Rolex. What will the future of the green glass be?
Really good point Frank. To keep that story going on with a simple black and white dial would be amazing! Such a neat touch to make these pieces feel that touch more unique 🥃
And this is my grail watch....
Goddamnit
I have black dial gv, it's not exactly the easiest watch to match unless you prefer dressing yourself in a monotone colour most of the time, which I do.
I paired it with a curved end black rubber strap with deployant clasp, the unique green crystal and quirky orange second hand just giving the right mix of pop, doesn't scream like crazy, and I love it.
In fact l, I like most unpopular rolexs rather than the usual bling bling sub / GMTs. Should Rolex choose to discontinue it.... fine by me lol, wouldn't make me like it any less.
It really should keep the lightning bolt seconds hand though. That is what makes it special and has already been therein 1956.
A mechanical or solar watch is like a trusted well worn pocket knife. In the right hands is a invaluable companion. Sadly, watches have dropped from being the trusted companion to being a piece of fashion jewelry.
Irrelevant watch…. I’ve liked some of the dials (white dial especially) but the premise is obviously purely historic, they need to come out with a new line. But only after they catch up with the demand for the watches they already make.
The name is the selling point (even though its totally irrelevant) 😆 "Milgauss" is such a killer heading 🥃
I love that black dial with red accents....stick a full red lightning sexond hand on that and I'm in
So much opportunity for them to spice it up and inject some nice touches. Love your point on the accent seconds hand too 🥃
Yes, pigs can fly and the Monochrome version of the Milgauss deserves to be made. The thing about the rotating bezel is, I think, more of a marketing challenge than it is to find some inherent rationale for its existence. Why not combine the antimagnetic qualities of Milgauss with this bezel to track a second timezone; its eminently practical, cost effective, and not often seen as one of the few that come to mind is on the bezel of the Tudor Heritage Chronograph, Monte Carlo. Anyway, one can dream of flying pigs and a new interpretation of the Milgauss.
Sinn T50 Goldbronze video coming soon?
What a watch... I'll definitely add it to the list an include it somewhere 😉