4 WAYS to make your DRUMS FAT in ABLETON (stock plugins only!) | Noize London
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 เม.ย. 2019
- FREE PLUGIN CHEAT SHEET
www.noizemusic.io/Free-Stuff
NOIZE RACKS
www.noizemusic.io/racks
NOIZE COURSES
www.noizemusic.io/courses
MIXING & MASTERING SERVICES
www.noizemusic.io/mixing-mast...
FOLLOW ON INSTAGRAM
/ noize_london
Uploading this a little early tonight because I'm off to see Drake play at the o2 in London! Here are 4 ways to process your drum group that you may or may not be doing already so either you learn or your confirm :) There is also a little trick hidden in the first part which I know is popular - I didn't go into it in too much detail but that because I would like to do a dedicated video on it... still not sure what I'm talking about? enjoy the vid!
weird flex but ok
@@hushedtones7168 lol
Enjoy the show brother!
Andres velasquez thanks bud!!
@@NoizeLondon Is there a specific reason you created a return for your parallel compression instead of using the "Dry/Wet" knob on the compressor?
"How to make your drums PHAT"
*Proceeds to only use hihat and a shaker as the sample
Check out my redemption video... I know I did wrong ;)
th-cam.com/video/5VRIxyKehpM/w-d-xo.html
hahah I went kind of mad when I realised there were no kicks not gonna lie. Also kind of weird doing a mix with no context of the whole track...but what do I know
And an anorexic clap
honestly wtf did i just watch, this was pure percussion fail
@@NoizeLondon that was gold subscribed
I appreciate creators who use stock plugins only, thank you for that 😊
the red indicator on the glue compressor only indicates that the signal is going above 0dB, it won't actually affect the audio until you turn the soft clip button on. you can tell by looking at the mini meters in between the plugins; when you cranked the sound on the makeup gain it shows the signal level turning red (>0dB) while the soft clip was off and then going back to yellow (right at or just below 0dB) when turned on
I have about six months' worth of experience with Ableton and there's a much easier way to fatten drums with a stock plug-in. Drum Buss. Has a compressor, transient shaper and tone controls and it's as a whole much more beginner-friendly than fine-tuning gain stages in two locations. I'm not an engineer by the way, I'm a drummer. :)
This was before drumbuss but yes I agree!!
@@NoizeLondon you use drum buss in the video o.O
I was about to say the same exact thing and then realized this was 4 years ago lol
?? he literally uses drum buss in the video lol
Some great tips on compression here. In your example of parallel processing with aggressive compression was terrific. I could clearly hear the difference with that.
Thanks bud
so subtle but so professional, i love it. from 90% of the way there to 100%
Thanks Steven :)
this is helpful.. The idea of doing many small things rather than one or 2 big things makes a huge difference and i love it
It’s all about the subtleties;) So glad you enjoyed it!! Thanks for watching :)
I found this video very professionally produced. I like that TH-cam recommended me a fairly small channel that I didn't know about, that seems to be on the rise. Subscribed! I would have liked some tips on making kick drums *fat* though.
Keep it up!
Thanks bud! Do you mean individual drums?
@@NoizeLondon Yeah, like kick drums alone. Or a drum beat like in this video, but one that has kicks!
Pedro Devoto ok sure thing bud stay tuned will do it soon :)
Really liked this video as well, can't wait for a video on kicks and/or snares :)
Awesome tutorial this. Feels easy to follow and very polished. Feel like I finally have a grasp on the various types of compression!
Thanks Charlie - glad you enjoyed it :)
This helped make my drums so much more prominent. Thank you for the video and for the advice! Appreciated.
An excellent and crystal clear insight into a topic I’m trying to improve on. Another request for widening the stereo field too, especially how to apply mid/side processing
Thank you very much Simon - you are one of many who has requested a video on widening so it will be coming soon! Thanks for the support.
This was cool. I followed along and definitely fattened up some drums in a much more interesting way than I usually do, and made some racks that I can come back to and use on any drums going forward! Very informative watch. Cheers.
Great dude!! Thanks for watching 😁
Outstanding!! I've been been looking for that drum sound for a long time ago.
Nice! Thanks for watching Neni :)
Love the parallel compression jawn! thank you so much :)
Why are you trying to "fatten up" a high passed loop to begin with. You'll get more results giving us an example with a kick and a snare. You should pick some completely dry 808 or 909 drums, make a full loop then show people what the effects will do.
Because he's a TH-camr
I’m going to do a separate video on kick and snare as they require different processing. The compressor on a drum group can be compromised if the kick and snare are fed into it hence why I’ve kept them separate. Thank you for your input and I look forward to making this video for you!
The Internet indeed I am ;)
Yeah it took me waaaaaay too long to realize there were going to be no kicks or snares to ever be found. "Drums" 😂 I think I still learned something though...
@@PakessoMukash Glad you did thanks for tuning in :)
Thank you dude, really smooth, professional processing. More attention should be given to these stellar Ableton stock plugins, instead of buying all these crazy expensive 3rd party ones
Thanks dude ;)
Your videos are awesome and so helpful. Keep it up! I'd love to see a video about widening the stereo sound signature of a track.
Thanks so much Joe - this is actually the second request I've had for widening so I will try and publish a vlog on it on Tuesday! Please let me know if you have any other topics you would like covered - more than happy to help.
I love your tutorials they are so helpful. Thank you!
Thank you for sticking to just the stock stuff. Inspiring channel!!!!
Will do more stock stuff if you like !! :)
Very cool. Love the delivery of the information; very practical and helpful 💯
Nice video! i'll be sure to make use of this in the next track i make, a subtle but effective effect chain!
Nice one dude ! :)
This is a next level Tutorial. Thank you so much for this
You are most welcome buddy - thank you for watching :)
absolutley spot on thanks for doing this and sharing your awesome wisdom !!!
You are most welcome !! Thanks for the support 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Hey, this video helps me a lot, I just wanted to thank you !
This is a great video tutorial teaching us how to use the Ableton live tools. Thanks
Great content, great execution; overall a great quality tutorial!
Thank you Michael - please let me know if there are any other topics you would like to see covered
Thanks man, the last trick is genius and so simple!!
No problem man :) my pleasure !
Sick video mate! Really helpful tips
You are most welcome Sam! Thanks for the support
This video has changed my life!
Woohoo!
Just re-watched this: real help. Thank you Fabio!
I have been using Ableton for about a year now and still use the stock plugins. They are the best.
thank you for your Compressor explanation
You're welcome!!
Great video. I liked the first part with combining glue and utility. Going to try that. Subscribed 4 sure
✌️
great cideo !! i love your informative and complete way of teaching
this is like the "today i found out" of dance music production aha
Another great video, clean and simple thanks!
Thanks for watching buddy!
Yes mate, brilliant! Thank you :)
Great stuff! Thanks a lot!
Thanks for watching !
Really good video bro! The only suggestion I have is you should do all that processing in context with the song bc at the end of the day that’s all that matters !
You’re totally right dude - here is a link to the finished record m.soundcloud.com/flux_xo/gypsy-woman-flux-remix/s-ieoo0
Amazing video!!!
Thank you so much ,keep it going!!!
really gonna buy your course this video really made my day hope u return to Canada soon
Thanks bro! Lots more courses coming soon too… watch this space ☺️
he has such a wonderful voice to listen to, very studious :D
Hi, thank you for making this. When do you anticipate part 2 will be done?
Check out my video “mixing your drums” ;)
this is very helpful. thank you so much
Awesome video!!
Really helpful video! Thank you so much!
thank you, helped heaps.
Great editing!
Thanks dude!!
DRUM bus was my hero to make the difference between my past drums....thx a lot
you're welcome dude!!!
we are learning everyday ! thanks. merci :)
You are most welcome!! :)
Great Advice! Thanks for the info
Recommended. Great vid.
Great tutorial :)
The trick on parallel was great!
Thanks Alexandre!
This is fantastic, night/day difference
Thanks Tee - glad you enjoyed :)
thank you, it's helpful
You are most welcome 🙏🏼
Great tutorial, this channel looks promising great job
Thank you Josh!!!
Been using ableton for 4-5 years and I still found this pretty helpful. Good stuff!
Really glad that I could help bud!! :)
* disclaimer * no drums were used in this whole video.
hahaha... we should probably stop calling it a kick drum then eh?
😂
Looks like a Logic user sabotage
@@EBMZEQUENZER LMAAAOO
That-s a great video. Thanks mate
Thanks buddy
Thanks for the vid! :) What's the advantage of using parallel compression via send/return instead of having the same compressor on the group using the dry/wet function?
Thanks man, great video with no gimmicks, no expensive plugins, and good sound. Where can we listen to your music?
Hi Carlo, thanks so much I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I'm currently working on a personal music project with some very exciting artists which I will reveal soon. In the meantime you can check out my website if you like to listen to artists that I engineer for. www.noizemusic.io ;)
Dope channel man 🙏
Thank you buddy! :)
Great video!
Thanks dude !!
This was tremendously helpful - thank you so much. It was so well done that I am going to check your other videos. Anyone who has true studio quality speakers can hear how much difference there is. I can.
Amazing Video. Thank you so much 🎉❤
I appreciate this video. I love my Push 2
I appreciate you!! Will do some videos on push soon :)
🔥 subscribed
Thank you for your support
Very nice and high quality video, look forward to see more and more video ! That's gonna be an awesome TH-cam Channel for sure !
Thanks buddy !!
Saturator is a great plugin. I love the Color Limiter which is a Max4Live device. Sounds great on drums!
I will check that out - is it free?
@@NoizeLondon yea, should be apart of one of the max4live packs. As long as you have the top Ableton package.
Great video thanks
Thank you for this great video ! :)
*4 WAYS to make your DRUMS FAT in ABLETON*
-"Well, feed em'"
lolololol
Nice video hadn't heard of you before..subscribed!
Thanks dude I’m new to this :)
Great vid, do you always exclude your kick when compressing your drums?
I’d like to hear that answer as well lol
nice! Thank you!
Interestingly although i had little no hiss on my original drum bus the parallel compression ended up causing a very large amount with these settings. I was able to remove most of the hiss with waves X-noise I'm pretty sure it was to do with amount of compressors on my various reverb and effects tracks.
I have heard of issues arsiing from using return tracks. Sometimes in groups too. Could you accomplish the same by making a split audio rack with a dry and wet signal?
What type of sound this very techno sound is, that you hear on the 3rd beat every 4 bar ? How to achieve it?
Thank you :)
Question, maybe this was answered, but why use a return track for the parrel compression vs doing a 2nd single chain on the insert and blending it that way?
Bad habits ;) also good for being able to send multiple tracks to the same parallel processing and less CPU heavy :)
Great video , great channel . Thanks.
Thanks Julien!
Great video. Is there any reason why you use a return track for your parallel compression instead of an audio effect rack with two chains?
Good question! - Sometimes I do both but totally depends on the project. What's useful about having a return track is that I can send other elements to the parallel compressor if necessary. It can also reduce the amount of processing on your computer which can become rather heavy if you're creating a lot of audio effect racks!
and it's also actually the way you would parallel compress in a real studio mixing desk (using a bus or return track), think about it, those do not have effect racks - it's just the beauty of ableton
ExiledMango another great point. Thank you Exiled Mango
puppiesinspace shouldn’t do, unless you’re using a very processor heavy plugin such as linear phase EQ
BRILLIANT.... thanks mate
you are most welcome!
a parallel is much easier in Ableton using chains in a rack group, put one with nothing on it and add a chain with the extreme compression, than add the wanted volume
Haha I always go crazy with the drum bus, though usually in the sound design stage than in mixing/mastering everything at the end. It may be "gimmicky" but there's a lot you can do with it.
You're totally right - its definitely something that should be used in a sound design approach rather than for finesse but I do think that some people are lured by the name 'Drum Buss' and who out there isn't looking for a quick fix haha ;)
so with or without parallel comp. what's the difference ? when i put your para-comp settings, it's like 'breathe sound' of my drums.
By compressing the front of the transient really hard you crush the signal basically making it flat and dynamic-less. When mixing it into your original signal you will add more sustain and at times harmonic distortion depending on the compressor you use for the parallel chain
great tips
Wooww! Thanks
You’re welcome :)
subbed for ableton stuff
Sweet !!
You did something in between adding EQ8 and the drum bus that was the only change that made a noticeable difference, but didn't show what you changed.
might've tweaked it a little
I cannot applied it cause i do not have the complete program but its a really good tutorial tho really good stuff
Thanks bud :)
THANKS BRO ☺
Grande Fabio !!!
Grazie bello!! Abbracci :)
Nice!
Thank yoooou
You are welcome Charlie thanks for tuning in ♥️
I have a problem with the last trick, when I send the drum group to the return channel, it starts to make a lot of noise, do you know why that happens? Hope you can help, great video btw!
hmmmm maybe turn down the return channel volume?
I like how he moved the dial in the drum buss made the camera moved to the back
dope technic!
Thanks dude!! :)
props for using utility plugin for unity after soft clipping
You should match the dB levels when comparing. People often think "louder" is just better.
Hey bud if you watch closely you’ll see that I match both the glue and the drum buss. Se for EQ I don’t find it necessary as I want to enhance those frequencies not bring the others down (otherwise I would cut) and parallel compression is only bringing up the RMS not peak level. Hope I explained that ok!
In the end it’s the perceived volume that is louder not the metered volume which is what we are trying to achieve