Can't they no longer groomed Evidence contradicts grooming allegations unless one member decided to go back to ador and starts exposing mhj and the whole behind the scenes tea which is not gonna happen now
I think we have past grooming. They now actively participate in situations that directly destroy themselves to support MHJ. Swearing it’s their own thoughts and desires. It’s the next step after grooming. So sad.
By "grooming" I guess you mean remaining loyal to the woman who is the main reason for their success and has treated them like her daughters compared to to HYBE who consistently ostracized and undermined them.
Like you I'm so done with the whole NJs drama/situation. Them dragging all this for the sake of MHJ or whatever is going on behind the scenes is just sooo tiring. We have idols that have actually suffered that we need to support. And the only reason I say that is because their situation is so unclear that we truly don't have a grasp at all of what happened cause it keeps getting more and more complicated. In the end only the girls MHJ and excs at ADOR/HYBE know the full truth and we as a community just have to wait and see the results.
My stance on the NJ problem is that MHJ is a very bad person, I don’t necessarily support NJ but I also don’t not support NJ. I understand why they did what they did. They are so successful and were doing so incredibly well that MHJ leaving must have been very hard for them since she is what makes NJ NJ. But asking HYBE to bring MHJ back was an unrealistic request. I think after showing support for such an evil woman of course unfortunately you’re going to get ignored by your boss or staff, you sided with the woman trying to take down the company they get their livelihood from. I hope everything goes well for them and they continue making music somewhere else.
Even the court refused to allow her to become CEO again during the 2nd injunction 😭 I hope it goes well for them because I've been following them since they started but with ador suing (to prove the validity of their contract) and kcma sui want their exit from the kpop industry I don't know anymore
my 2025 predictions -most korean based companies when given the choice to work with either hybe or nwjns will most probably pick nwjns given their popularity with the korean gp despite the komca warnings -however i think nwjns will lose the contract dispute and will have a lot of debt, mhj will also lose most if not all of her lawsuits -many 4th gen groups debuted 2019. some of those groups will be up for early contract renewals. i think ateez is the most likely to announce early contract renewals next year while other groups will wait till 7th year -gidle is going to have a queencard 2.0 moment since their last cb was structured to be quite safe in case they disbanded and kinda boring :( -i feel like there's going to be a lot of 4th gen soloist debuts next year and i'll look forward to them! -twice will have more western features in title tracks after the success of strategy -smngg debut will probably be mid but the first cb will be amazing -illit will release a title track that emulates lucky girl syndrome (okay this one is less a prediction and more wishful thinking) -gfriend's 10 year anniversary special is going to be so successful the girls will have a comeback 2nd half of 2025 too. -out of all the kpop/kpop adjacent acts performing at coachella next year, i think xg will have the biggest growth/benefit from the stage the most
the only predication i care about for 2025 is .. BTS ARE COMING BACK!! i don’t expect an album from them at all, in fact i don’t even want one, they need to REST, but i would literally just be happy with a digital single. i know they have the hyyh 10th anniversary project planned so yeah i am EXCITED!!!!!! (i think the day their first song will drop im probably gonna cry so hard)
My prediction for 2025 is that ablume (kpop group made with 3 of the former fifty fifty members) will debut in February or March and receive lots of attention and won't necessary go as viral as cupid but will receive lots of praise and fans
@@rosebooysen1693 not really anymore, and we've seen before even idols who have been critised by Korean netizens become successful. Plus if it was true that this contervery would hold them back Keena would also have suffered whilst still remaining in fifty fifty, but instead we saw fifty fifty being praised by k-netizens. knetizens and netizens in general attack people fast and get bored fast. I doubt it'll hold them back.
@ujytb9761 it will cause KCMA will block them heavily Plus Keena wasn't hated but praised in Korea only international Stans hated her😭 plus if you know the whole situation it won't be easy on the former 3 members since they were actually caught tampering their contract and still lost their credits to givers
@@rosebooysen1693 All Fifty Fifty members have faced hate from K-netizens, and the situation is far more complex and layered than we could ever imagine. Are we really going to trust a company that mistreated them and clearly doesn’t have their best interests at heart regarding claims about their former employees? As they mentioned in the video, we don’t fully understand the inner workings of K-pop, and blindly accepting the narrative that the three girls were "tampering with their contract" seems unwise without an official police report.
I honestly agree with the Newjeans thing. What's going on is Newjeans business and not ours. MHJ and HYBE have already proved to us that they aren't good people. All we can do is speculate, come up with random theories, turn to the option of bashing a bunch of girls who were kinda dragged into a whole situation between two people, both of which aren't good people. We may think that we know everything about the situation but we really don't. The evidence we have is a live stream, two press conferences, the girl's parents talking about all the bad treatment they went through while they were Source Music trainees, and some court case. We can all come to our own conclusions that can be just as inaccurate as the next ones, but I've been seeing so many people bring them into stuff that it's honestly annoying. The second KG made a post talking about the disgusting treatment and borderline abuse that she and the other VCHA members have been going through at JYP, there were a bunch of people saying stuff like "And this is why we should pay attention to rEaL victims" instead of just letting her recover in peace. Yes, some Bunnies are really immature, gross, annoying, etc. and I'm saying that as a bunny myself, but if you're constantly bringing up Newjeans in every single comment, post, etc. just because you want online validation and attention then you're really no better.
@@riffgroove Chill. That's just my perception, I really have no clue what's going on, now can you please shut up and go do something else with your life?
The whole drama started cause MHJ got caught Instead of admitting or deny the accusations she proceeded to make it like the company is against NJ and dragging innocent group aswell in the mess Prior I would been like NJ doesn't deserve the hate, they are groomed but now they actively involved and connection between mhj and NJ is to deep to dissolve cause it's like hating on mhj is like hating on NJ and hating on NJ is like hating on mhj 😭
No they literally did call Sheesh the debut. Not a redebut, but the actual real debut. There were a few people saying that rhis doesn't make sense. BM had already won awards, like a rookie award. But I don't think it matters. YG stated Sheesh was the actual debut. Sure, whatever. It's not that deep.
not a necessary a predition but the influx of new bg in 2025-2026 hopefully makes them diversify a bit. wishfull thinking that idol labour laws and contracts improve for the artists side. -- I am curious: if ador / hybe new bg will be delayed more due all the confusion so probally late 2025 or 2026 to do promotions with bts and if they will do the "global idol" aproach as kateyes did. hopefull to see if and how ablume (ex fifty fifty) and newjeans will trive. if girls on fire's girls will debut or not. they have skills, artistic talent, good producers, but bad marketing and buget? if I met U, timer tuner gg, will carve them selfs a niche, hopefully that they may get some interesthing musical development to not became too generic and weak.
I think the bg for ador was supposed to training but mhj was and is a lazy CEO so it's probably not going happen It's gonna be worse for contract since NJ, former 50/50 members made it worse by doing tampering etc...
I mean, at least in my mined blackpink did make a come back...just individually. I'm so proud of all of them continuing to make waves. I think you were right.
Newjeans are not innocent regarding the dispute. They are taking the attention from actually mistreated idols. This mentality of idols never being wrong is extremely harmful. Look at taeil and you'll understand that (taeil is ofc a lot shittier person than newjeans are). Bunnies who blame just MHJ for everything that has happened are delusional. Newjeans parents are involved as well as Newjeans themselves.
We know nothing about how they've been treated, and it's not Newjeans's fault that people are so obsessed with hating or defending them and bringing them up in every internet scenario ever that they forget to support the people who are trying to recover from long (or short) term sufferings and mistreatment :/
I don't think choujimi ever said that NJ are helpless in this scenario, nor has he ever said that they are perfect victims who have done nothing wrong. He's always maintained that while we all have our opinions on the situation, we cannot take away their lived experiences to say that nothing has ever been done to them or invalidate their feelings, but we also don't know the full scope of the situation. That is neither defending the girls nor villainizing them. He just wants us to consider that we as fans do not know the whole story, no matter who we support. (And at this I point, _all_ parties are complicit in this debacle).
Oh I am sooo stealing this episode format! Will tag you accordingly, of course. It's gonna take me a bit to get around to it, though, but I'm sure you won't be mad about why... I'm finally making a TWICE episode. 😘
i relate. so much to the newjeans thing lol. with this drama/dispute, i've learned i do not need to know every single thing going on in the pop world, i've just been growing content on focusing on the music only and leaving personal stuff to the artists lol 🫣
Which is correct way cause if you follow the story line of NJ,mhj, ador drama it's get's worse for NJ and MHJ cause they are constantly being exposed and caught 😭hype is letting them self destruct
choujimi knows the future, theory confirmed😁
Hello how are you? 😊But yeah, I don't know how the hell he knows the future 0-0
Dude... Where is rosie vedio?
Bestie I love your channel but never predict again, you predicted some of the most chaotic and industry destroying sh*t. I can’t do it again
😂😂
Lmaooooo
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I couldn't help it, I laughed literally every time
@@theworstliz I SWEAAAR
pls make predictions for 2025, this kind of stuff is so fun to look back on
AS IT IS WRITTEN
The only predictions I will make for 2025
-I will convert someone into a revuluv, and hoping a Mymean too
What Fandom is mymean? From which group?
@ We;Na, if you like Lovelyz, Gfriend, CSR, Twice, Red velvets weirder concepts, and some Loona Bsides you’ll probably like there music
@@CatNagTaylorsVersion ooh, okay thanks for telling me!
I feel the NewJeans thing. Obviously don’t send hate to the girls because their literally being groomed but omg I am just so tired
Can't they no longer groomed
Evidence contradicts grooming allegations unless one member decided to go back to ador and starts exposing mhj and the whole behind the scenes tea which is not gonna happen now
I think we have past grooming. They now actively participate in situations that directly destroy themselves to support MHJ. Swearing it’s their own thoughts and desires. It’s the next step after grooming. So sad.
By "grooming" I guess you mean remaining loyal to the woman who is the main reason for their success and has treated them like her daughters compared to to HYBE who consistently ostracized and undermined them.
@@scanspeak00if you’re genuinely pro MHJ you need to log off and regroup
Like you I'm so done with the whole NJs drama/situation. Them dragging all this for the sake of MHJ or whatever is going on behind the scenes is just sooo tiring. We have idols that have actually suffered that we need to support. And the only reason I say that is because their situation is so unclear that we truly don't have a grasp at all of what happened cause it keeps getting more and more complicated. In the end only the girls MHJ and excs at ADOR/HYBE know the full truth and we as a community just have to wait and see the results.
My stance on the NJ problem is that MHJ is a very bad person, I don’t necessarily support NJ but I also don’t not support NJ. I understand why they did what they did. They are so successful and were doing so incredibly well that MHJ leaving must have been very hard for them since she is what makes NJ NJ. But asking HYBE to bring MHJ back was an unrealistic request. I think after showing support for such an evil woman of course unfortunately you’re going to get ignored by your boss or staff, you sided with the woman trying to take down the company they get their livelihood from. I hope everything goes well for them and they continue making music somewhere else.
Even the court refused to allow her to become CEO again during the 2nd injunction 😭
I hope it goes well for them because I've been following them since they started but with ador suing (to prove the validity of their contract) and kcma sui want their exit from the kpop industry I don't know anymore
I agree with you but i love their music so i hope everything goes well😭🙏
Personally as a Midzy I’m gonna give you the Lia prediction because 10 months was a long time 🥲 1:53
my 2025 predictions
-most korean based companies when given the choice to work with either hybe or nwjns will most probably pick nwjns given their popularity with the korean gp despite the komca warnings
-however i think nwjns will lose the contract dispute and will have a lot of debt, mhj will also lose most if not all of her lawsuits
-many 4th gen groups debuted 2019. some of those groups will be up for early contract renewals. i think ateez is the most likely to announce early contract renewals next year while other groups will wait till 7th year
-gidle is going to have a queencard 2.0 moment since their last cb was structured to be quite safe in case they disbanded and kinda boring :(
-i feel like there's going to be a lot of 4th gen soloist debuts next year and i'll look forward to them!
-twice will have more western features in title tracks after the success of strategy
-smngg debut will probably be mid but the first cb will be amazing
-illit will release a title track that emulates lucky girl syndrome (okay this one is less a prediction and more wishful thinking)
-gfriend's 10 year anniversary special is going to be so successful the girls will have a comeback 2nd half of 2025 too.
-out of all the kpop/kpop adjacent acts performing at coachella next year, i think xg will have the biggest growth/benefit from the stage the most
love these predictions esp as an alphaz and a buddy i hope they come true n
the only predication i care about for 2025 is .. BTS ARE COMING BACK!! i don’t expect an album from them at all, in fact i don’t even want one, they need to REST, but i would literally just be happy with a digital single. i know they have the hyyh 10th anniversary project planned so yeah i am EXCITED!!!!!! (i think the day their first song will drop im probably gonna cry so hard)
bros two steps ahead
My prediction for 2025 is that ablume (kpop group made with 3 of the former fifty fifty members) will debut in February or March and receive lots of attention and won't necessary go as viral as cupid but will receive lots of praise and fans
a prediction or manifesto, only time will tell 😭
I don't think so cause the 3 are heavily criticised in Korea 😭
@@rosebooysen1693 not really anymore, and we've seen before even idols who have been critised by Korean netizens become successful. Plus if it was true that this contervery would hold them back Keena would also have suffered whilst still remaining in fifty fifty, but instead we saw fifty fifty being praised by k-netizens. knetizens and netizens in general attack people fast and get bored fast. I doubt it'll hold them back.
@ujytb9761 it will cause KCMA will block them heavily
Plus Keena wasn't hated but praised in Korea only international Stans hated her😭 plus if you know the whole situation it won't be easy on the former 3 members since they were actually caught tampering their contract and still lost their credits to givers
@@rosebooysen1693 All Fifty Fifty members have faced hate from K-netizens, and the situation is far more complex and layered than we could ever imagine. Are we really going to trust a company that mistreated them and clearly doesn’t have their best interests at heart regarding claims about their former employees? As they mentioned in the video, we don’t fully understand the inner workings of K-pop, and blindly accepting the narrative that the three girls were "tampering with their contract" seems unwise without an official police report.
I honestly agree with the Newjeans thing. What's going on is Newjeans business and not ours. MHJ and HYBE have already proved to us that they aren't good people. All we can do is speculate, come up with random theories, turn to the option of bashing a bunch of girls who were kinda dragged into a whole situation between two people, both of which aren't good people. We may think that we know everything about the situation but we really don't. The evidence we have is a live stream, two press conferences, the girl's parents talking about all the bad treatment they went through while they were Source Music trainees, and some court case. We can all come to our own conclusions that can be just as inaccurate as the next ones, but I've been seeing so many people bring them into stuff that it's honestly annoying. The second KG made a post talking about the disgusting treatment and borderline abuse that she and the other VCHA members have been going through at JYP, there were a bunch of people saying stuff like "And this is why we should pay attention to rEaL victims" instead of just letting her recover in peace. Yes, some Bunnies are really immature, gross, annoying, etc. and I'm saying that as a bunny myself, but if you're constantly bringing up Newjeans in every single comment, post, etc. just because you want online validation and attention then you're really no better.
Saying New Jeans "had no sway over and did not cause this dispute" is flat out ridiculous.
@@riffgroove Chill. That's just my perception, I really have no clue what's going on, now can you please shut up and go do something else with your life?
@@riffgroove Chill. That's just my perception, now stfu
The whole drama started cause MHJ got caught
Instead of admitting or deny the accusations she proceeded to make it like the company is against NJ and dragging innocent group aswell in the mess
Prior I would been like NJ doesn't deserve the hate, they are groomed but now they actively involved and connection between mhj and NJ is to deep to dissolve cause it's like hating on mhj is like hating on NJ and hating on NJ is like hating on mhj 😭
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No they literally did call Sheesh the debut. Not a redebut, but the actual real debut.
There were a few people saying that rhis doesn't make sense. BM had already won awards, like a rookie award.
But I don't think it matters. YG stated Sheesh was the actual debut. Sure, whatever. It's not that deep.
Well the sheesh choreography and every other choreography afterwards was terrible 😂😂 !!
not a necessary a predition but the influx of new bg in 2025-2026 hopefully makes them diversify a bit.
wishfull thinking that idol labour laws and contracts improve for the artists side.
--
I am curious:
if ador / hybe new bg will be delayed more due all the confusion so probally late 2025 or 2026 to do promotions with bts and if they will do the "global idol" aproach as kateyes did.
hopefull to see if and how ablume (ex fifty fifty) and newjeans will trive.
if girls on fire's girls will debut or not. they have skills, artistic talent, good producers, but bad marketing and buget?
if I met U, timer tuner gg, will carve them selfs a niche, hopefully that they may get some interesthing musical development to not became too generic and weak.
I think the bg for ador was supposed to training but mhj was and is a lazy CEO so it's probably not going happen
It's gonna be worse for contract since NJ, former 50/50 members made it worse by doing tampering etc...
I mean, at least in my mined blackpink did make a come back...just individually. I'm so proud of all of them continuing to make waves. I think you were right.
My predictions for 2025:
Aespa performs in my city (PLEASEEEEEEE BE TRUEEE‼️)
New red velvet comeback
2:50 Chat, Misamo got solos too
Very spot on!
May I suggest it was the year of Choujimi??
the aespa prediction literally has me gagged. how tf did you-
Newjeans are not innocent regarding the dispute. They are taking the attention from actually mistreated idols.
This mentality of idols never being wrong is extremely harmful. Look at taeil and you'll understand that (taeil is ofc a lot shittier person than newjeans are). Bunnies who blame just MHJ for everything that has happened are delusional. Newjeans parents are involved as well as Newjeans themselves.
We know nothing about how they've been treated, and it's not Newjeans's fault that people are so obsessed with hating or defending them and bringing them up in every internet scenario ever that they forget to support the people who are trying to recover from long (or short) term sufferings and mistreatment :/
insane to compare taeil to a bunch of young girls who got taken advantage of by a large corporation and are actively being manipulated
I don't think choujimi ever said that NJ are helpless in this scenario, nor has he ever said that they are perfect victims who have done nothing wrong. He's always maintained that while we all have our opinions on the situation, we cannot take away their lived experiences to say that nothing has ever been done to them or invalidate their feelings, but we also don't know the full scope of the situation. That is neither defending the girls nor villainizing them. He just wants us to consider that we as fans do not know the whole story, no matter who we support.
(And at this I point, _all_ parties are complicit in this debacle).
@@fleetwoodmak777 Exactly
hi😀
The accuracy of some of these predictions actually make me really nervous. pls don't do another 2025 prediction😭
Ooh early ❤❤
2025 prediction - NewJeans officially terminates contract and pay a 20B won penalty.
They then release the comeback of the year under CEO Min Hee-Jin.
CAN'T BELIEVE YOU PREDICTED ABOUT NEWJEANS...
Do it again
Oh I am sooo stealing this episode format! Will tag you accordingly, of course. It's gonna take me a bit to get around to it, though, but I'm sure you won't be mad about why...
I'm finally making a TWICE episode. 😘
Oh wow I‘m EARLY
ALL HAIL CHOUJIMIS PREDICTIONS 🙏🙏🙏🙏
"No group deserves to be blamed for a dispute they had no sway over and did not cause."
Saying that applies to New Jeans is flat-out ridiculous.
Exactly
How funny that our whole narrative changed from "nj is a victim too" to "they're done for" just because of their behaviours
How else do you judge a person/group if not by their behavior and actions?
Ok do we treat you like Bruno?
Very right, but we hate(ish) how right
i relate. so much to the newjeans thing lol. with this drama/dispute, i've learned i do not need to know every single thing going on in the pop world, i've just been growing content on focusing on the music only and leaving personal stuff to the artists lol 🫣
Which is correct way cause if you follow the story line of NJ,mhj, ador drama it's get's worse for NJ and MHJ cause they are constantly being exposed and caught 😭hype is letting them self destruct