Imagine starting a war because you refused to have peace, and then get destroyed in the war, and then start complaining the other side were the evil ones.
last i checked, Israel started the six day war. and well: “If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” -Ben Gurion. you come and take their land, and you expect them not to react?
It's surprising you're writing this bc it's not brought up as a point anymore: nobody brings up the "war" b/c that's been refuted. Look up what really happened in 1948. This alone should show you the Arabs in the area, if really wanted to fight, would've stepped in 1946-47, when word of the first massacres and expulsions were happening. At that time 200,000 Palestinians were expelled. Read abt it from different sources. In 1948, there was no "war" of combatants vs. combatants, and no historian now denies this. What really happened is the "Arabs" (what is that exactly? Sudanese speak Arabic and they are "black") weren't interested in fighting, ill-prepared (every history book, no matter the persuasion, says this), and rearraging themselves after colonialism. They were simply responding to the massacres happening in the villages next door! Village by village, the Haganah and Irgun plundered and massacred it's inhabitants. Heck, even mainstream Isreaelis will point this out, and so do historians. So your comment is not only inaccurate, it shows you deny what's really happening. Torture in prisons, raids in refugee camps, massacres, like the Flour Massacre last month (again, every news organization covered this-now undeniable).
@@KrakenUmbra It's the same response, so why should I write a new comment? My comment stands: there was no real war initially, and expulsions and massacres were the means to expand and create the state. Looks like you're the one bothered and "coping" by commenting.
@@handsanitiser9832 because you are just screaming the same nonsense all these brain dead pro-Palestine protestors scream with no substance. Denying of an Arab allied attack is the biggest amount of copium someone has snorted. Keep living in that delusional world mate. There is a reason why “Palestine” is looking like a Walmart parking lot right now, and it’s called years of Karma.
Firstly a disclaimer: Not a Jew, not an Arab, simply a Brit who studies Arabic at university and lived in Jordan (Amman) and Palestine (Ramallah) for a year. I lean more towards supporting Israel on the conflict (I refuse to use the term "pro-Israel" because it gives the impression that I side with Israel on all aspects, which would obviously be ludicrous), but ultimately see both sides as having good and bad within them. While overall this video is correct in the information it provides (and is 7 years out-of-date), it does also leave out events and information (the Deir Yassin massacre of 107 Palestinian villagers, the controversy surrounding Plan Dalet, the exploitation of Ottoman home ownership laws etc) that would more correctly portray both sides of the conflict (although admittedly not every single facet can be shown without the video becoming hours long). It also jumps from the conclusion of the 1948 war to the Camp David accords of the early 2000s, completely ignoring many important things that happened in-between such as the 6 Day War and the start of the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, the Khartoum Resolution, Black September, the Munich Massacre, the Yom Kippur War, the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty, the Israeli invasion and occupation of southern Lebanon, the First Intifada, the Israel-Jordan Peace Treaty and the Oslo Accords. Post-2000 the video also ignores the construction of the West Bank barrier and checkpoints, the 2006 Lebanon War and the 2008 Operation Cast Lead. As for the information provided, whilst (as previously stated) the information is generally accurate, there are some mistakes that I'll correct: 0:45 - There were no borders pre-1967. After the conclusion of the 1948 war, the Israelis and the Arabs agreed to armistice lines separating Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Egypt from Israel. The Arabs made it explicitly clear that these were simply ceasefire lines and didn't demarcate country boundaries, for the simple fact that it would unofficially be a recognition of Israel (which they refused to do). 1:46 - True, but while 10% were Jews, the majority of that 10% were recent refugees and immigrants from Europe making Aliyah. 3:28 (with reference to 2:31) - The Palestinian people didn't exist at this point as a national identity. Palestinian nationalism, the idea of the unique Palestinian people, arose as a response to Zionism and Israel and came to the forefront after the Arab defeat in the 6 Day War. At this point the now-Palestinians saw themselves simply as Arabs, no different from the other Levantines of Greater Syria, and pan-Arab nationalism and support of King Faisal was very much the default at the time (in fact his defeat and exile to Iraq after the 1920 Franco-Syrian War is one of the causes of the Nebi Musa Riots discussed from 3:22). It was mostly the collapse of the United Arab Republic in 1961; the humiliation of Abdel Nasser, the figurehead of pan-Arab nationalism, after his defeat in the 6 Day War; and the work of Yasser Arafat and his opposition to Zionism that led to the modern Palestinian national identity. 4:05 - Everything depicted here is true; however, it should also be noted that, along with 4 Arabs dying and 21 injured, sheiks of 82 Arab villages surrounding Jerusalem and Jaffa condemned the riots and attacks on Jews. 4:54 - Very true, there were many more riots and pogroms against the Jews, the worst probably being the massacres of 1929; however, as previously stated, this ignores Jewish attacks against the Arabs, the worst being of course the massacre at Deir Yassin. 5:49 - The Jews rejected the Peel Commission. 7:09 - Wrong order of events. After the declaration of the proposed UN Partition Plan in 1947, the Arabs started a civil war against the Jews which saw the beginnings of the Nakba. The other Arab states invaded in 1948 after the expiry of the British Mandate and the declaration of the State of Israel. 8:09 - The widely-accepted number of Palestinian refugees displaced in the Nakba is 700,000 or 80% of the population. 20%, or 150,000 Arabs, remained within Israel and became Israeli citizens (although under martial law until 1966). Specific cases to mention would be Haifa, where the Jews of the city pleaded with the Palestinians to stay and not flee as refugees; and the expulsions at Lydda and Ramle, where Palestinians were literally forced out of their homes at gunpoint under the threat of death. 8:14 - Not so much sent as they were already there due to fighting in the war, and they also occupied East Jerusalem. Worth mentioning as well that the Jordanians expelled every single Jew living within the Jewish Quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem and throughout the West Bank; denied all Jews, not just Israelis, any access to all holy sites within East Jerusalem and the West Bank (eg the Western Wall, the Temple Mount, Rachel's Tomb, the Cave of the Patriarchs etc - too many to mention really, the entire area is riddled with important historical Jewish sites) until their loss of the territory in 1967; destroyed synagogues, including blowing up the famous Hurva Synagogue in Jerusalem; desecrated ancient Jewish cemeteries; and looted and vandalised Jewish property. 8:40 - This is annoyingly misleading, painting the notion that the Palestinians reject peace agreements simply because they're against the very idea of peace with Israel. Just because the Palestinians disagree to the terms of a peace agreement doesn't mean they're anti-peace; similarly, just because Israel rejected the 2002 Arab Peace Initiative doesn't mean Israel is anti-peace, it just means they disagree with the terms of the agreement. 8:54 - Conflation of the Camp David Summit of 2000 and the Taba Negotiations of 2001. Yasser Arafat walked away from the Camp David Summit, true, but the terms of the agreement were nowhere near as favourable as the video says; instead, the terms the video talks about were part of the Taba Negotiations, which were ended by the Israeli PM Ehud Barak because of the upcoming Israeli elections - his successor, Ariel Sharon, never resumed the negotiations. This is still widely claimed to be the very closest they've ever got to a peace agreement, stating they were only mere weeks away from a final resolution. 9:16 - The Second Intifada began after Ariel Sharon visited the Temple Mount with an entourage of 100-odd Israeli riot police. Palestinians rioted against his visit, the Israelis cracked down of the riots, voilà Second Intifada. 10:06 - Skipped a bit. The Palestinians in the Gaza Strip then held the legislative elections in 2006. Hamas got the highest amount of votes, 44%, with Fatah getting the second highest at 41%. Hamas then took over the entire Gaza Strip, executing not only Fatah but all their political rivals, throwing them off buildings and driving them out to the West Bank; then they started the rocket launches against Israel, leading to the blockade in 2007. 10:12 - The Olmert Peace Plan is misrepresented here. The then-PM Ehud Olmert was convicted of corruption and bribery, indicted and sent to trial, stepping down as PM. This all happened just days after he summoned Abbas to the private meeting where he first brought up the proposed peace plan, saying that Abbas had to accept ASAP or it was off the table. At 10:43 there's a crucial mistake in that Abbas was forbidden from taking a map of the proposed agreement - Olmert refused to grant Abbas one after he asked. Abbas went back to his advisors and had to hand-draw the map from memory on a napkin, with his advisors rightly saying that agreeing to anything without proper perusal would be idiocy. Frankly the entire thing was dead in the water before it ever really began, it had no chance of happening. Wow this became a very long post, but the video needed a few corrections. Everything else mentioned in the video is correct to the best of my knowledge.
@leumasdiderot You were the squatter. The ancestral lands were lost due to war and the lands were reclaimed with war. Squatting on the land afterward and then claiming its suddenly your ancestral land because you lived there most recently is hogwash. Crying that you lost is just as bad as ANY NAZI crying that Germany deserved better after the holocaust. Don't be a NAZI. Accept that you are not going to win any war against Israel and learn to live in peace. That means ACCEPTING a two state solution or one not at all. Their is no more winning to be had. There is simply peace.
The Palestinians will tell you that they accepted the borders but the Zionists didn't, they will also tell you that the supposed offers by Israel weren't genuine offers & that Israel had no intention of complying with them if Palestine accepted them. Never forget that USA's politics is controlled by Israel & USA will start any war Israel requests.
why should they accept having their state split in 2 for a second time in less than a century and that the territory was given away to the jews by Britain because Rothchild holds them by the balls?
@@TopDingoMan He absolutely didn't. Out of the seven parties in the present coalition four of them do not recognise the Palestians right to a state. Israel too does not accept a two state solution.
Yeah with the billions given to them by America. Otherwise they wouldn’t sustain anything. Also Muslims live like second class citizens in Israel. Not sure if you’ve actually been there or lived there
I will never understand the Jew hatred and anti-Zionism. Zionism is literally no different from the nationalism in Europe and Arab nationalism. I don’t think there is any difference to say that one is worse/better than the other. Israel is not a bloodless country, but so are the rest of the world. Every country has its skeletons.
Who would have thought that millions of Jews carving out a country in the middle of 100 million Muslims would be a problem? This whole problem could have been prevented if the US had given New Jersey to the Jews. American, British, and Jewish Zionists thought Palestine would be a good place for Jews to make a country.
@@subcommanderxelios800France is not an ethno-state with laws saying only white people with roots going back thousands of years there have a right to self-determination. They also don’t run concentration camps where they lock up and siege everyone who doesn’t fit that description. If you can’t see the difference you don’t know anything about either country.
This video is just jewish propaganda lol he leaves out that well the arabs rioted for beimg kicked out of their homes. The jews threw 40s killed hundreds of civilans in Palestine threw terror attacks and bombings. Then up grading to mass murdering entire villages. All prior to the Israel arab wars. Israel wasnt attacked for no reason.. just months before the war the jews were massacred an entire village and displaced 10s of thousands of civilians. Look up the massacre of deir yessin april 1948, the bombing of the king david hotel, officers club bombing, tel aviv bombing etc etc
This war started with the creation of the Zionist party. Truman was a greedy, and may he rot in hell for this, but he only supported the state of israel because he needed Jewish votes in the USA. Obviously, I have basic human morals, which means that I sympathize with the Jews for the disaster of the holocaust. But just because you suffered this does not mean that you can use Manifest Destiny to steal the land of an entire people. Unjust and disgusting. Personally, the Palestinians would have been fine if the Jews lived there peacefully, with healthy laws and a healthy amount of immigration done. But Britain had to go and dump them in Palestine, with illegal immigration, without consent, violating international law and ethics, signing the Balfour Declaration which also breaks international law, creating ILLEGAL settlements, and ignore all of this suffering until the times that we actually attempt to strike back from all the rape and burning and torture that the Zionists have subjected to us. But, you all act like the victims and label Islam, the only true religion, as a "religion of terrorists" for self defense. I agree that not all Jews are Zionists, which is why I have absolutely no hate for any of the Jews. Nor are we anti semitic, because THE ARAB COUNTRIES ARE SEMITIC COUNTRIES. It is unfair. Wrath and suffering upon the oppressors!
HAMAs which is less than 2% of Gazas population started the war. Palestinians as a group did not. Let me guess, you are some religious person feeling like they have to defend Israel’s slaughter of 10,000+ innocent women and children to make yourself feel better within your religion…
That's one of the best comments I've seen on this horrendous situation. It seems certain peoples/states are repeat offenders at it in the Middle East. Also, it's a shame more isnt' made of the fact that Hamas are not just another political party wanting their own state. They are religious extremists who want to turn the entire area back to some kind of medieval theocracy. The irony is how many in the liberal left support this ideology that hates liberal left values and wants to gain power precisely to exterminate those liberal values.
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I think they said "There will always be warmongers, but the UK has been told [that] without an arms trade, there's no finance, so how....." I think that if they don't trade arms with whoever it is that "told" them, the UK will not receive any money from them and so the post's author is wondering how, but his post drops off, and so still it's a big "what?"@@davidpolander5899
I can make it simple. The Palestinians will never ever be happy peaceful people. For centuries they've bred hate and evil. Enough is enough. Now the UN, who was created to solve the problem have all gone dark. Back in the day Nixon said "soon it will be time to get out of the UN and get the UN out of us".
It's actually very simple. There was NEVER a country originally called "Palestine". Israel was renamed Palestine by the Romans after they conquered it. There was no such thing as a "Palestinian" until after the 6 Day War. "Palestinians" are Syrians & Egyptians living in Israel & were kept out of their country of origin after the Muslim's defeat by Israel. Israel is the Promised Land given to the Jews by God after their escape from Egyptian slavery. Muslims have been invading & conquering other countries since Mohamed founded the cult in the 7th century. Every muslim "holy site" is built on a place of importance to the people they conquered, just like they wanted to build a mosque at the World Trade Center after 9/11. Muslims, much like America's dumb-0-craps, have never been the party of peace. They openly preach to enslave or kill all the "infidels" meaning EVERYBODY who is not a practicing muslim.
@@kevin2028 I totally agree with you that they want all or nothing (at least the leadership does)! I was wondering why you think think that to be the case
A correction...It says "in April 1920 Palestinians poured into the old city"...but these Arabs refused to be called "Palestinians," in fact at the time and throughout the first half of the 20th century it was considered an insult to Arabs, like calling them "dirty Jews" since the Jews were the ones known as "Palestinians." They insisted on being called simply "Arabs." But yes, these are the people who perpetrated regular massacres of Jews in the 1920s and 1930s.
@@kennye6088 Well, I did not ask about the term "regular massacres" because I think you know the facts and your wording is a conscious choice disregarding them. I would call it misrepresenting but this is not my point for now. My point is WHOM they attacked in the 1920s and 1930s. Those were the settlers having arrived recently, not the Palestinian Jews who had been living there for generations. In this case it was a fight over the land between the indigenous Arabs and the European (and American) colonisers. This had happened in several places all over the world. The permanent rant about how the indigenus people was called is just distraction attempt, it has no relevance at all.
It's a pretty common Israeli propaganda tactic to try and deny Palestinians their individual culture so they can say the land was really "barren" apart from some "Arabs" that have no particular connection to the land and should just go live in some of the many "Arab countries". But this is misusing the fact that statehood as such is a modern Western idea that only arrived in this area when the conflict arose. As a result Jews developed an Israeli national identity where before there was only a religious and cultural/ethnic Jewish identity, and so did Palestinians. But it's clear the "Arabs" of Palestine had a strong connection to the land and a distinct cultural and linguistic identity tied to that long before. So when you hear this argument know that it is wrong and anachronistic, trying to apply current day norms to a period when they didn't exist in that area yet.
The fact that Israel slaughtered people there 3000 years ago? Even with tactics similar to those that financed Hamas back then. th-cam.com/video/S3eLWgy2jus/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LpB8mlmKiIbK_94O
@@sebastiand1941 What an idiot you are. The reason people don't want to see the video is because they probably didn#t have an inkling about any of it and realise they are protesting for a two.state solution on behalf of people who never wanted a two-state solution, for example.
nor when it was made in the 2010s..... and when it comes to Islamist they were and will never be ready.... their hate for Jews is greater than their love for Allah or peace (and this is why they teach their children to hate as soon as they can walk) - disgusting animals
This is why i get triggerd of people that choose sides without knowing any history. The fact that this shows just how important history and knowledge is
Like both Palestinian Jew and Arabs attempted to forge alliance with Nazis in 1940, but Hitler's genocide started since 1939, and yet Zionists claim it is Amin Husseini who manipulated their beloved Nazis to commit Holocaust.😂
You left out that only 'Palestinian' Refugee have their own UN Department (UNRWA) and that theirs is the only refugee status that is hereditary so that number of refugees grows instead of diminishes. No other group is treated this way. For all other groups only the initial displaced persons are considered refugees. Their descendants born elsewhere are not.
Everything about the Palestinian people is a lie ! They lie about the whole situation. Isreal has attmepted peace many time only to be met with rocket attavks and other violence, no counter negoiation just violence. They dont want peace they want evey Jew dead.
@@meekmeads They have to have this department at the UN. NOBODY WANTS THEM. Not one brother nation included. Lebanon once took them in, and they destroyed their nation for a 'thanks'. There's a good reason nobody; not one brother wants these people and never have.
@@hihi-xi1vi for me, it mimics the way I was in class. I doodled what my professors were talking about. My notes are random words with lots of drawings. Lol
@kimweimann4310 Well, mister wordy, if that isn't the kettle calling the pot black. I think your defense is downplaying the Arab side in an attempt to make their conflict seem more even. That's like saying native Americans and US soldiers both bloodied each other. Sure, they both had negative actors, but one side was openly encouraging it as a means of rejection and the other as a right to remain in place.
Oh sweet little boy, I was already a teenager before smartphones existed and we learnt in school about this new thing called 'youtube', didn't like it that much because I didn't know what interested me though but the first thing I've ever watched was something of ghost rider during IT class. 😂
Dishonest, stereotypical response. Glenn Greenwald discussed this on his show. Anyone who makes these comments obviously hasn't read or isn't convinced of the vile, supremist onslaught people have faced for 80 years. Look no further of them posting videos of themselves in Gaza now: proudly engaging in torture, lauging as they destroy, sniping children in the head, writing threatening grafitti on buildings. They recently posted themselves burning a library. They're no hiding it, so why comment abt a people obviously being plundered, and who are, indeed victims of a convoluted plot? If you're an adult, why comment w/out seeing context first?
@@jaybee9269 This is inaccurate. Who is the purveyor of death in all this?! Braggin abt sn ipping children on camera and tort ture? Urinating on corpses? They post videos of this on social media, so they don't hide it. And these are ppl who see all human life as worthy? Believers in human rights??!!
@@jaybee9269 This is inaccurate. Who is the purveyor of death in all this?! Braggin abt sn ipping children on camera and tort ture? Urinating on corpses? They post videos of this on social media, so they don't hide it. And these are ppl who see all human life as worthy? Believers in human rights??!!
It is so strange to me how they love to live in pain and destruction, in hate and want to massacre and exterminate Jews. But that is Hamas/Gaza ideology. None of the (pro) Palis I talk to online takes responsibility for their own behavior and choices. This is already a form of dominance, by being the victims at all times. It is meant and used as a means to terrorize.
It's not confusing at all. Jews want to live next to an Arab state and they and the world keep trying to give the Palestinians land. But the Palestinians hate the Jews so much they would rather kill them then share anything.
Hopefully in a hundred years we can visit the glass crater left by them destroying each other and look upon it and say, "here lies the crater that finally ended a battle between whose gawd was better that lasted 3000 years". Because they've not been fighting for merely 75 years...
Yeah, but still this whole channel is biased on far right. It has videos against the Geneva Conventions, and says Environmentalism has n4z1 roots, like wtf is this
@@EMAbreuLucas It's true, study history. Nature worship dates back throughout Germanic history and the Nazi ideology expanded upon it when they rose to power. Nazism was basically rooted in the idea that an elite enlightened class ought mold and manage society like a potter molds clay. In order to do this power must be centralised and the rule imposed forcefully over the people. This is EXACTLY what is occurring today with the "climate change" agenda. Whether it be Jacobin's (French reign of terror), Nazi's, Bolsheviks, Tito, or the CCP, they ALL use some "crisis" to justify to the population to centralise power and then that power is ALWAYS abused. There is nothing new under the sun.
Sad that 12 years later there's actually even more people deluded about the truth. Especially the truths of history and it seems this particular conflict. More young dingbats than there ever used to be. Teaching the next gen is so important!!!
Yes, people think this was like a Palestinian nation that existed forever and they invited Jews persecuted in Europe and then the Jews turned on them and stole their land. When reality is there have always been Jews, Christians and Muslims there and they moved in and out. And large parts were empty . This video is good as a starter but there are also many other details like how as Jews begin to move their the economy would improve and Arabs would also start to move to those areas. And how Jews in other middle east/North African areas were kicked out .
@@J7pat7because it did exist, but with a different name, also the reason the economy got better was because of america jelping Israel and because before that these places have been getting invaded and because of world war, and the arabs moving there part was the arab Jews, though i do agree about muslims/christians/jews living together there
@@nassemthegreat9582 I find this an interesting point. As an Atheist from England It's not my chief concern but where would you say that a Jewish state should be, if not Israel? Or should Jews not exist or have their own country? I'm intrigued....
@@howardmonument6093 Ethnostates should not exist, period. Only white supremacists and Zionists agree with these ideas because they want to exclude people they don't like, both evil and fascist. If you support a Jewish ethnostate why not support a White ethnostate?
And the Grand Mufti of Palestine went to Nazi Germany and recruited 40,000 Balkan Muslims to fight against the allies and Hitler asked them to commit Jihad and the Gufti spoke Nazi propaganda until the end of the war!
@@FTW412 You appear to have missed the 30,000 civilian murders, the forced starvation, and the very legitimate war crime charges. People like you are the reason why things like this happen.
This video is biased and probably lead you to one side.. i prefer the video from Crashcourse "conflict in israel and palestine" Which has more "neutral" content.. peace✌️
Why no mention of the killing of Yitzhak Rabin, the Israeli Prime Minister, in 1995, by Yigal Amir, an Israeli extremist? It bids to be one of history’s most effective political murders. Two years earlier, Rabin, setting aside a lifetime of enmity, appeared on the White House lawn with Yasser Arafat, to agree to a framework for limited Palestinian self-rule in the occupied territories including ceding most of the occupied territories back to the Palestinians; the next year, somewhat less painfully, he returned to the White House, with Jordan’s King Hussein, to officially end a forty-six-year state of war. Within months of Rabin’s death, Benjamin Netanyahu was the new Prime Minister and the prospects for a wider-ranging peace in the Middle East, which had seemed within Rabin’s grasp, were dead, too. Twenty eight years later, Netanyahu is into his sixth term, and the kind of peace that Rabin envisaged is more distant than ever.
The Palestinians have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Rabin's death meant nothing because Palestinians will never settle for a 2 state agreement. Did you not listen to the video?
@@khamzic2890 I love how every middle school edge lord suddenly adopted "cope" into their lexicon. I can imagine how smug they must feel every time they type it out, like obedient little lapdogs.
@@fuzulibostan1796 the nakba was the term used to refer to the war they lost it's like saying "yasir nakbna" when they lost their homes after losing the war crazy! image losing ur home because u lost a war you started btw many people in the nakba never left when they were ordered to i don't wanna break it to you since u prob will go in a denial spyral, many of their younger generations are now the isreali arabs living a betterlife grow a spine because you are clearly misinformed/biased
You could read Professor Shlomo Sand's books, also Ilan Pappe, Whitlam regarding 'The Invention of Ancient Israel', and the book regarding the nearly 4,000 year history of Palestine by Nur Masalha (from the Bronze Age Philistia, references in Herodotus' Histories, Roman provinces Palestina Primus and Secundus and also in through the medieval period to 17th, 18th and 19th C references - obviously there was renaming especially during the Ottoman period.) Nonetheless the people seem to have been fairly stable over the long term with the indigenous Jews being, genetically seaking, close relatives to the other regional semites, unlike many Euro-American Jewish settlers who seem to be primarily Caucasian. Apparently this has been backed up by a genetic study in the Lancet. Palestine is not a recent invention whatever the political agendas of either Zionists or Arab pan-nationalists. Only pointing out that this is what the modern evidence, not least the archaeology, seems to indicate. As with most histories in this presentation what is most interesting is what is left out. All the best.
@@Omar_05 the point is u can't expect a large population of people to live in one place and expect to bring jews from all over the world u know how big that is and settle them in one place that will result in one group having to leave now imagine ur an American and some Russian comes to take Ur home where u grew up he can leave and go back to his home but where the hell are u going to go and ur home is America so the Arabs were right to refuse coz if they accepted they would have no place to call home so the Jewish settlers needed to leave
I’d recommend trying to follow a few TH-camrs by the names of “apostate prophet, and ApologeticsRoadshow”. They usually do livestreams but they also have videos that clarify this stuff in a more digestible manner. AP is a ex Muslim and has done videos explaining Muslim culture and essentially why groups like Hamas even exist.
you'll get more disable if you learn from their perspective. try another perspective. the palestinians were arabs, native yudeans, and christians living happily ever after until these european self identify yudean came in boats.
It lyes, right in the beginning. Palestine was NOT underpopulated. It was inhabited at the beginning of the 20th century as densely as many French regions. This lye is crucial because this is intended to be one of the main justifications of massive Jewish immigration and massive displacement of Palestinians.
Nice zionist propaganda. If you want to learn something about the history of Palestine and zionism , you should listen to the jews , Norman Finkelstein, Noam Chomsky, Miko Peled, Hajo Meyer, Rabbi Davod Weiss, Ilan Pappe, Gideon Levy etc.
@@BiharyGabor Palestine got inhibitated by inmigrant Arabs, we know, like at least 1/4 came afterwards and ofc they lived in disperse area not in some community and unity or entitiy under some rule. That came work for the Brits and killed the Jews that bought the swamp.
Among the many ironies of the history is that since 1948, the Druze have almost always been supporters of Israel, including serving in the IDF. But it was the Druze who attacked Jews or led the attacks on Jews back in 1660 and in the 1800s.
Well, they understood they get better rights and a better quality of life under democratic rule than under an Islamic Caliphate or any Islamic non-democratic rule..
I was in Israel a few months ago and spoke to many Druze people in the North of Israel- as they put it, they love Israel and love living there. Many Druzey are in the army as well. They need Israel to remain and to be safe in order to have a safe place to live themselves. 💜 Overall really sweet people
@@LA-cm9uo 1. Israel was created by taking land and self-determination from the Palestinians by conquest, expelling, and terrorism in the lead up to May 1948 (see Plan Dalet and the Jewish Irgun & Lehi, US declared terrorist groups who were key in the creation of Israel and who later became Likud).
That's been known a long time: "The Palestinian people do not exist. There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese. We are part of one people, the Arab nation. Lo and behold, I have relatives with Palestinian, Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian citizenship. We are one people. It is only for political reasons that we carefully endorse our Palestinian identity. Indeed, it is of national interest for the Arabs to encourage the existence of the Palestinians in the face of Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity is only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new means to continue the struggle against Israel and for Arab unity." - Zuheir Mohsen, Palestinian leader of the Syria-controlled as-Sa'iqa faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO).
And jews are also in this genetic pool. All this 5 countries are relatives. Should find way how to live peacefully, but no, stupid ksenofobik religious and cultural differences.
@@raghadradi8840 isn't it the job of smarter more rational muslims to correct their ideologically lost brothers. They don't correct the violent acts of terrorists but then call Israel a demonic state when it hits terrorists back. What hogwash lel
@hunter christensen "Actively target civilian with rocket" from what I see this is because of their capabilities, they do what they could to defend their homeland with whatever they had. On the other way, Let's see on the Israel side, they have advanced weaponry that can target precisely from far away. But, even with advance weapon why are there MANY of civillian casualties ? I do not believe that it is merely error or a collateral damage. Even more than the casualties from Israel side. Note here that I do not support what Hamas did to Israel civilian, but i do understand their limited way to fight for their freedom. They don't have many option to begin with.
@hunter christensen are you comparing the oppressed occupied with nazis? Really? You could compare the goyiem principal in jewdiesem to nazies which states that all non jews are lesser you could compare the use of israeli military power against civilians or their aparthide regime or occupation with nazis you could compare their act of sterilizing arab women and black women and ethnic cleansing to nazis but no you chose to comparethe ones defending themselves with nazis And no matter evidence or facts stated to you, you chose to be on the oppressor side its amazing how israel turns people int puppets by their media control
@hunter christensenantisematism itself is an old lie lol arabs are a sematic race so you can't rly come accuse us of being antisematic lol but what do you know A 5 minute search on youtube or anyplatform will give you all evidence but you the one who refuses to be fair And quite honestly we argue out of confidence We don't want your support Zionest heads like you are everywher and we will burn israel on our own cuz we have the right to defed ourselves
It would be nice to have an updated slide to include the more recent two presidents, and how the UN and others are behaving towards these groups today.
Propaganda or not? For the ignorant, here is A must Y.Tube view: "Free Palestine? No thanks! (The Israeli perspective)" // Need reality? ...then go figure like I did.
Yeah he will be decietful in new update video as well just like he is in this one. Nakba massacres not mentioned, 2 states solution deal not explained how it favored zionists
@@davijchaudhry8924 Yes, please explain, how getting 20% of the land was so advantageous to the Jews. Please explain, how after a lost war getting offered half was such a disadvantage to the Arabs. Please explain, how, after 3 lost wars and getting 98% of their demands was such a disadvantage to Arafat that he had to leave the table. Truth is, they did NOT care about the people, THEIR people. And most of the crying hearts of the new generations know nothing of history that was not propagandized.
When Israel moved out of Gaza, they left behind a lot of greenhouses where they used to grow food. The Palestinians destroyed everything and danced on the ruins…
@@johnnyboy1586 Israel doesn't need a good deal, it already owns the Western Hemisphere, Israel is just intended to be a headquarters/safe haven from where to keep the goyim lands under control and escape should nature take it's course on a national scale for the 110th time
I heard hezbollah has fiberoptic cable? Why don’t they just stop the mass schitzobait disinformation campaigns the only tactics their enemies use the only tactic the cultic leadership in the area allows but they don’t like realize everything they believe is an oriental delusion or something or those in power just don’t care enough to destabilize the lie in their own mental and then in their environment?
It isn't about a Palestinian state, isnt about two states, it's about the existence of the state of Israel. That should be clear to those who want to see. From 1299 to the fall of the Ottoman Empire after WW1, up to the beginning of the implementation of the Balfour Declaration, there wasn't a peep from the people in the province of Syria Palestine about independence or whatever. Once any inch of the region was no longer under Islamic control, rather under Jewish control, all hell was let loose.
I agree with you that it is weird and, contextually important given the statements of PLO leadership on the invention of the term (justification for extermination), the power of presenting as indigenous in modern thinking, etc. BUT I genuinely don't believe it changes the reality of for the existing people of Gaza and West Bank (most of whom have been born there and, for them, the term is real and having an ethno-nationalist identity is a powerful motivator). And I don't think denying that sense of identity builds a foundation for peace.
Identity or not. People lived in their homes. And these homes had been continuously inhabited for centuries. That said, was this a just recipe for peace & stability in the region? For the crime of Party A, the Germans, Party B, the non-native Jews were given the majority of the land of Party C, the Palestinians, by Party D, the UN. Needless to say Party C was not happy with such an unnatural, unlawful and abnormal decision by a body proclaiming itself to be for peace, progress and humanity. Needless to say Party A was content for Party B to go anywhere else. Needless to say Party B had no shame in becoming the only artificially inseminated nation state birthed by force of rape upon Party C. And Party D today continues to its track record of never bringing the world closer to peace, humanity and justice anywhere on earth. Meanwhile, those who fund most of the bills of Party D, continue to profit off of the global situations of conflict that have ensued since WW II. Debunk that.
@@Bulldozered2003absolutely wrong, land was divided between jews and Arabs. You conviently forgot Jordan eh,? Jordan which covered most of area was given to Arabs and Israel to jews.
@@Elsa-kt2mn Wow, you mean the generous UN allowed the people of Jordan to keep their own land? Even that isn't true. They allowed a monarch to control it because the European powers believed it was the most advantageous form of government for the European interests.
@@milessklare6006 Lmao. Israel was propped up by the USSR, France, UK and now America. Nothing about them has even been done on their own www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4737624,00.html
Excellent video, but important to note, since it can be misleading, on the point of Jews making up 10% of the population at the time. That might seem to some to imply that the muslim arabs made up the other 90%, but this was not the case. There were many different peoples living in the land at the time. To name a few other groups: Druz, Circassians, Christian Arabs, Baha'i, Bedouin,... Many of those groups stood with the Jewish people and are now citizens of Israel. Some of them even serve in the Israeli army (for instance the Circassians and the Druz are required to serve in the military).
Your post is even more misleading considering all the non-Jewish, non-Arab residents together made up less than 1% of the population. It's a non-argument.
@@duxd1452 Incorrect. According to the 1922 census: population 757, 182 Jews 83,794 ( about 11%) Christians 73,024 ( about 10%) (this category is further split into groups such as Arab christians, German templers, Armenians, etc.) (It is worth noting that the German templers kept getting kicked out by the British, during World War 1 and 2, and then either slowly returning or not, so while their numbers here at this time were around 700, this is not necessarily an accurate size of their community). 7,028 Druze (about 1%) and then yes, some of the other groups were each less than 1%, such as the Baha'is, Samaritans, Sikhs, etc. Muslims 590, 890 (about 78%) However, it is important to note that some groups, like the Circassians, were lumped into the Muslim group, because they are Muslim. But they are a separate non-arab ethnic group. When they arrived in the 1800s, they were around 4,700. Not sure how many they were at the time of this census. But they are just one example. What about other Muslim groups? So you're statement that these groups made up less than 1% in total is false.
@@AhavaMath I was using the latest census. But even in 1922 Palestinian Muslims were about 78% of the population, Jews about 11% (puts the partition plan that gave more land to the Israelis than the Palestinians into perspective). That's already 89%. Then there's 10% Christians (totallng about 73k) that were also mostly Palestinians. That gets you at least around 95% Palestnians and Jews in 1922. Those 0.92% Druze and 2% Sikh played no real role and apart from the Druze and Sikh every minority comprised less than 0,1% of the population in 1922.
@@duxd1452 Again, your statements are skewed and incorrect. There are several problems here. First, you jump to the 78% Muslims to mean “Palestinian” Muslims. The 78% includes non-Arab Muslim groups, such as the Circassians. You assume that just because they were Muslim, that they were Palestinian. There was an influx of Arab migrant workers at the time from other countries, such as Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and so on who were not from the area. Second, you write “Palestinians and Jews,” but at that time, the people identifying themselves as Palestinians were the Jewish Palestinians, so it’s strange to write them as if they were separate. Nowadays the non-Israeli Arabs of the region refer to themselves as Palestinians, but at the time, they were simply Arabs. So it was Palestinian Jews and Arabs, and then of course, the non-Palestinian Jews, Christians, Arabs, etc. who were living there. Third, “played no real role?” Played no real role at what? The German Templers for example modernized Haifa, the Circassians defended Jewish villages from attack, the Druz made peace with the Jewish forces, and even joined them. (They even serve in the IDF to this day). Not sure what you mean by “played no real role.” If you mean they were a small percent of the overall population, okay. But that doesn't mean they weren't a part of the society, and in the case of many of them, they had been there for hundreds of years.
It would certainly be nice to see a treatment of the work of the Trump administration which lead to the Abraham Accords and President Trump's relocation of the US's embassy to Jerusalem. President Trump's reputation as the United States most pro-Jewish president is well-deserved.
@@Mak095 jews first travelled to jarusalem to settle in 1001BC islam started 600AD explain to me why it was nesccesary for the british to give land in israel to jews after ww2; since it's their homeland. what happened in israel which made it so that the jews didn't occupy their home land? we can clearly see jews trying to get back their land from these violent pedo worshippers for the last century!
@@Notreallyhereanymoremy God you people are so ignorant. 70% of the israeli jews are from arab and north african countries. the MENA jews in the 1900s faced mass expulsion from syria, iran, iraq, egypt, lebanon, algeria, yemen, etc hence majority of them migrated to israel because they had nowhere else to go. most israeli jews even LOOK exactly like arabs. put an arab and an israeli side by side and they will look related i PROMISE you. it’s very clear that you have no idea what israel is actually like or who their people are.
@@Notreallyhereanymore nope. Italians and Greeks were transplanted there since the time Hadrian drove the Jews and Samaritans and Edomites out. They and the Aramaic and Armenian and Georgian and Phoenician people there then were the only non-Israeli inhabitants - the ones that all became Christians and from whom the muslims after muhammad's death first took the Holy Land.
No one ever talk about ethnic cleansing in Muslim countries. Population of Christians and jews in Muslim countries reduce severely overtime. Meanwhile Palestine experience growing Muslim population since the 1940s. Muslims are so caught up in their own victimhood.
First: the decrease of Christian and jew population in Muslim countries due to :- 1. economic and stability reasons 2. In many of these countries unfortunately they don't follow their own religious laws that encourage justice for non- Muslims who live in a Muslim land, and the leaders use hate to fuel the general public against them ( the non- Muslim)to distract them from their own corruption. Second: the Palestine region issue is not about ethnic cleansing; it's about two main things :- 1. The aqsa mosque that is located in Jureslim is the 3rd holiest place in earth in our belief so hearing an occupier that he will destroy the 3rd holiest site in your Believe what would you expect their reaction to be ???🤷♂️ 2. The people of Palestine are our brothers and sisters in religion so when we hear and see them being treated like animals by the occupation force of Israel, you expect as to be silent???? Finally: this is the opinion of civilians in almost all Muslims in the world, and unfortunately the leaders in Muslim countries choose their own self interest and allow the suffering of the Palestinian to happen because most of them are dictators who are allowed to stay in power ( and not get heavily pressure by the west ) as long as they support the occupation force of Israel. Note: the bias opinion against the Palestinian is clearly obvious through out the video by making them seems as they are the one who doesn't want peace while the jews are when in fact it's just that the Palestinian know that the jews of the occupation force of Israel are hypocrite cuz they appear ( to the international community) as if they want to give the Palestinian their rights but they shout in their own media and strongly believe that the land from the Mediterranean sea to the furat River in Iraq and south til the Nile river in Egypt is their land and they will establish the land of Israel on it. So what do you expect the Muslims will think and do while seeing this hypocracy. The occupation force of Israel is giving the Palestinian poison within honey by offering the two state deal so they can weaken them and making them dependent on them like what they are doing in Gaza they practically controlling every basic need of Palestinian. And in fact they invaded Egypt before in attempt to control sinai area the suez canal but they backed out.
@@shl9322the reason there is military occupation in Gaza and the West Bank is because of terror attacks from Palestinians Do you think Isreal wants to do this just because and those attacks came before there even was the military occupation if the Palestinians want to stop the blockades and check points what they need to do is very simple stop killing Jews even before this war someone was getting killed by terrorist attacks from Palestinians every week or so there even was a case of a 13 year old Palestinian kid who shot people and the reason people say that the al aqsa mosque needs to be destroyed is not to spite Muslims it’s because it’s purposely was built on the Temple Mount the holiest site of Judaism while Muslims already have their first and second holiest site why can’t the Jews have theirs and why are Muslims allowed to build a mosque on the Jews holiest site because by your prospective the fact that al aqsa is the 3 holiest site for Muslims is more important than the fact that the temple mount is the holiest place for the Jews And in your comment you say that the video is propaganda when it’s just facts the Palestinians are the ones that denied the peel commission in 37 that gave them most of the land and many more offers after that you talk like the Palestinians owned the place and don’t owe the Jews anything when most of them that were called arbs at that time only came to Palestine under the British mandate only a small portion lived on the land for a long time with Jews so i don’t get your point because clearly both sides have legitimate reasons of why they wanted to stay or move to the land and also blaming the hate of Jews in Muslim countries on Isreal is not a good look because there were hate of arbs against Jews even way before the creation of Isreal but it’s so easy when you have a scapegoat isn’t it
You remember that kid in school who would always talk a big game, start shit, get stomped every time, and continue to talk a big game while complaining about how he's treated _so_ unfairly? I'm not saying it's relevant here or that it might apply to any group. I'm just throwing it out there.
i'm not sure i'd accept a two-state solution if it was my country, why would i give even half my region's land to people i don't have any connection to at all? it was never palestinians' responsibility to accept it
@@msruag since Jewish people were present in the same land throughout the entire history why should Arabs claim it is exclusively their own land? I’ve never heard or seen any so called “pro-palestinien” address that.
You will never be able to reason with Palestinians or Muslims. You say the Earth goes around the Sun, Palestinians will say no it doesn't. I pray there will be peace for the Jews and Israel one day!
Ozy Mandias Qur’an 18:83-86-And they ask you about Dhul-Qarnain. Say: “I shall recite to you something of his story.” Verily, We established him in the earth, and We gave him the means of everything. So he followed a way. Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a peop Sunan Abu Dawud 3991-Abu Dharr said: I was sitting behind the Apostle of Allah who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water.
@@picklethepirate The only reason you think facts are pro-Israel is because you hate Jews. This is really just good vs. evil to everyone else without bias.
A good explanation of a great deal of the historical diplomatic attempts at resolution of the issues. Unfortunately this skimmed over the circumstances and outcomes of both the 67 and 73 wars. This is something of a problematic omission and a new version of this video with further explication of these issues as well as the past 10 years would be really welcome. What is useful however, is the inclusion of the honest timeline of the real politics that led to the 47/48 crisis and subsequent refusal of any resolution. The establishment of Trans - Jordan and its implication in the now, 'refugee' status of Palestinian people, cannot be ignored but so often is - thanks for including it here. Equally, the fact of the Ottoman Empire and it's dissolution during and after WW1 is rarely discussed but quite essential to a broad understanding of this complex matter, again, nice job to include mention of this.
It was mostly a desolate wasteland at the begining of the 20th century/end of 19th century. Malaria was a big problem and decimated the first groups who tried to settle the land in the inhospitable regions. The Jewish settlers solved this problem and then many more people came.
That's trivial. Even david ben-gurion admitted that zionists started the conflict. It's very simple European jews wanted to colonize palestina. According to zionist historian Benny Morris, zionists chose to accept the 1937 partition plan, so they could eventually takeover all of Palestine
@@princessmenen9064 yeah a lot of Jews were displaced or migrated into Kurdish communities and adopted Kurdish culture. There’s over 100,000 of them that returned to Israel
I wouldn't negotiate with someone who kicked me out of my own home, besides the last time we talked (YasserArafat) he left me even less room to move in.
This is so biased. It doesn’t even mentions something as simple as The Haavara Agreement, negotiated by Zionist leaders, contributed to the Nazi regime's goal of expelling Jews from Germany by facilitating the transfer of Jewish capital and assets to Palestine. This agreement allowed Jews to emigrate from Germany while also benefiting the Nazi regime economically. The Zionist allowed the ‘cleansing of the German jewish population and dispossess them from their wealth (valued at 10-12 billion Reichsmarks which was more than Mefo bills' total size as of mid-1938) as much as possible. In return, Zionists channeled a fraction of the liquidated German Jewish wealth to build the foundation of their "Jewish state" 15 years ahead of its time.
The Palestinian leadership died not and does NOT want a two state solution, nor do they desire the creation of a government and society that prioritizes the humanity and rights of their own Palestinian kin. The Palestinian leadership has only been interested in their own power and wealth, while weaponizing Islam as a tool towards the same.
Please describe the 2-state in detail, and what it would entail, including the first attempt. You can't b/c if you read and understood context and history, it's obvious it was a convoluted ploy from the very beginning! You also leave out the expulsions happening BEFORE official creation of the state. Of course, it takes humility to actually look at facts, compare content, and understand a ppl. The Mad Professor summarizes the fictitious 2-state well (nobody has been able to refute what he says-I'm waiting for your refutation): th-cam.com/video/kDfFkNW-H9I/w-d-xo.html&t=
Of course the Palestinians would prioritize their own rights after having been chased out of their homes or killed. 500 villiages distroyed, millions displaced. When the 2 state solution was brought in israel didn't stop the settlers taking palestinian homes and land just like they still do to this day and will continue to do so. crossing the boarders into surrounding countries and stealing their land also. until they have the old land shown as theirs in the bible. It's israel starting the wars so they can take the land.
I guess.... everyone here thinks it is just dandy, that if your homestead was forced into, and you must now accept this new group into your home "permanently". How many here will agree to that?
Well, I have stuck to a very neutral position on the current mess (condemning the Oct 7 stuff though). I just haven't had time to research all this history. Here it is in a nice concise package. I mean I support the idea of a two state setup and kept wondering why it hadn't been done. Now I know.
This video is literally propaganda, lmao By definition Gaza is a concentration camp. The media keeps using the term open air “prison”. That is misleading, an open air prison implies some sort of due process, but Palestinians are BORN a crime. 18,000 people dead and counting, and we are still debating the reality of the situation. People find the fact that a genocide is occurring and no cares. You would have all supported k*king Jewish people if you were citizens of Nazi germany. You would rather the absence of tension rather than the presence of Justice. Do some more research, dig into this shit man. Watch the videos coming out Gaza, it’s horrific stuff. Let’s say all the things in this video is correct, does that justify a genocide in any way shape or form? Ask yourself if maybe you have been manipulated in some way. Not by the Jews, but by the state department who finds it in their best interests to promote the state of Israel. Joe Biden said best himself when he said it was in the naked self interest of the United States to support Israel and calling the best 3 billion dollar investment we make. United States never supports anything out of altruism. Geopolitical influence over the Middle East is what they cover, nothing else and nothing more. And Israel let’s them do that.
Bear in mind that this video is clearly showing an anti-Palestinian view. There are plenty of anti-Zionist Jews, anti-Muslim Jews, and plenty of two-state supporting Palestinians muddying up the scenario. Don't stop researching.
also to be clear: a British mandate refers to a "system of administration" established by the League of Nations in the early 20th century to govern "non-self-governing territories". The mandate system was created as a compromise between Woodrow Wilson's ideal of self-determination and the European powers' "desire for gains for their empires".
RE: "British mandate refers to a "system of administration" established by the League of Nations" Moving native people is ethnic cleansing which is a war crime. Solution=One State, giving Palestinians equal rights, including right of return.
Let's be clear. A British Mandate is and always will be furnishment for civil war. British policy is and always was to foment civil war in any country that isn't their own, and are the globe's leading expert at creating apartheid states.
This should be taught in schools/colleges and univerities around the world. Maybe then we wouldn't have the young people of the world siding with terrorists.
The state of Israel was created by terrorists. Even david ben-gurion admitted that zionists started the conflict. It's very simple European jews wanted to colonize palestina. According to zionist historian Benny Morris, zionists chose to accept the 1937 partition plan, so they could eventually takeover all of Palestine
@@sarminder4357 Palestine is the new BLM. Young people jumping on the band wagon because it's the fashionable thing to do. Anti- establishment, like your daughter dating a drug dealer, just to piss you off.
@@garyjordan4735The state of Israel was created by terrorists. Even david ben-gurion admitted that zionists started the conflict. It's very simple European jews wanted to colonize palestina. According to zionist historian Benny Morris, zionists chose to accept the 1937 partition plan, so they could eventually takeover all of Palestine
@@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 Israel was created by God almighty for his people the Jews/ Israelites. Lets see how much history you really know...(ready? Here we go) When Rome destroyed the second Temple of the Lord, who was the country the Romans attacked? A. Egypt B. Israel C. Germany D. B, because it was Israel
@@shoky8622 israel had nuclear weapons before they were even friends with the americans, and no country holding nuclear weapon was ever destroyed, so nah
@@zohar9971 Zionist has power over USA since 1900 and after 1940 they have increase control over bancs , journalism and orher platforms, i dont know what are u talking about.
@@shoky8622 Israel is strong, they won their wars in history before even the USA supported them while the USSR supported the middle east from the start.
@Soul Chicken Started drawing lines through their homes? seems like a reasonable response. think about this, the league of nations was formed two years after the Ottoman empire ended and ended two years before Israel was founded. Now tell me how can something that no longer Exists give away something that it does not hold? this video is so full of lies the ottoman empire did not get destroyed in ww1 it was destroyed by the Greeks 2 years after ww1. think about this and then consider your response to my question.
Whos land? it never belonged to the modern day Arabs from Gaza and Judah/samaria. It was the British as well as many other modern day Arab countries By your logic not only Israel shouldn't exist, but neither Jordan Saudi Arabia UAE etc.You win the land you make the rules that's how the world works. Just go study some history
@@ezniyazov7970 You wanna tell me that Egypt & India & South Africa & all these Commonwealth countries belonged to the British & they could've given them to anyone? How about the US. Would it make sense for the UK to give away the US to another nationality so they can rule over the founding fathers? Also, based on various different sources, the British and French were divvying up the lands they were *going* to get once they overthrow the Ottoman empire in these places. So basically, they were divvying up land that they didn't yet have control over, and that never was theirs. My point is, the British should've never promised that land to the Jews, and probably not even to the Arabs coming from the Arab peninsula. There were people living there and they should've had the power to make that decision from the very beginning and they should've retained the right to rule the land.
Surrendering all of Israel would not end the violence Muslims and their sympathizers attack Jews (and christians, hindu, etc) everywhere If you'll be attacked no matter what, it's best to take a stand early while you have a defensible position.
Religion is taught as a science in parts of the USA. Required reading would rarely be honest texts, or texts that better humankind, regardless of the country.
Only if balanced by the books of Prof. Shlomo Sands, Ilan Pappe, Whitlam ('The Invention of Ancient Israel' ) and Nur Musalha. Look them up,. All the best.
Sad thing is Only time can fix this Only when Israel loses Or Palestine be happy in it's part will this unrest be over They refuse any and all offers They expect us to give up our right to a country a right that we so despretly need We need a country We were the hot potato of the world until then going from country to country just trying to find someone who alaccepts us We didn't And as such we needed to create a place that not only accepts us but is for us Not exclusively mind you There are over 50 Arab states But a Jewish state there is only one And I hope that once it's all over people will understand that Th
Unfortunately the narrator gets something wrong from the start - the Arabs who lived in Palestine pre-1948 (really, pre-1964) did not call themselves Palestinians. In fact, the dispised the term because it lumped them in with the Jews of the region.
Who cares?! People's identities, language, relgion, borders, etc. change all the time. Actually, the identified w/ being from regions-"the north", "Jerusalemite", etc. What you call a ppl doesn't negate ppl lived there. And yes, each region did have a distict accent, dress, food, etc. Palestinians always had an identity, whatever you called them. And btw the entire Muslim women was divided up w/ colonialism, including the Levant. There was no such thing as "Lebanese" outside of Mt. Lebonon, but w/ redrawn borders suddenlty ppl in Tripoli were "Lebanese." Verbal gymnastics doesn't change the fact ppl were always there.
There is one interesting omission in this video that is worth noting. In 1915-1916 there was the 'McMahon-Hussein Correspondence' in which the UK government indicated to the Arabs that they would be willing to recognise an Arab state in Palestine in return for their assistance in fighting against the Ottoman Empire (which happened in 1916 and is referred to as the 'Arab Revolt'). The Balfour Declaration came after this and the Arabs saw this, unsurprisingly, as a violation of the UK's prior commitment. In fact, it seems that the fallout from the broken commitment had a significant bearing on the following events and I suspect may be connected to the current unwillingness to compromise on the part of the Palestinians. (Edited to remove the word _agreement_ so as to let the reader determine for themselves to what extent, if at all, there was one in reality or principal or if there was a _de facto_ equivalent)
@@insomniackiller1 While admittedly the nature of the correspondence has been debated over the years between the parties, it really has minimal importance to the issue so long as the Arabs were of the belief that it was an agreement. The fact that the Arab Revolt occurred following the correspondence does make it appear that they believed that it was an actual agreement. So regardless of how the British intended it, it may still be a relevant factor in the unwillingness of the Palestinians to compromise. I have also amended my original post to remove the word agreement.
Thank you! So glad to see someone stating some of the facts that were omitted from this story. The history of this conflict is way more complex and everyone with an ounce of sense has to agree that clearly both sides have done wrong and both sides are a victim. This video makes it look way too one dimensional in favour of Israel.
@@sijmenvedder2566it was an indirect colonization... The British send the jews to colonize Palestine for them... Let's not forget, when the Balfour declaration was made, it was clear that the number of jews only cosist of 10% of the population... Clearly, the intention from the beginning was to ignore the right of 90% palestinian and make it into a Jewish state... No wonder the palestinian rejected the 2 states solution... the best solution back then was to make a public referendum for establishing a new state as the British colonization ends... Let the 30% jews and 70% palestinians vote and decide... if they decided to make it into a Jewish state than so be it... Atleast the step taken was properly done... Malaysia for example, got their independence through proper process that includes the right of all party's... imagine if the 20% immigrants from china that the British brought into Malaysia for the mining industry claim half of Malaysia as theirs... And proposed a two state solution, Malaysia & Chinasia, i don't see any Malaysian would agree to the 2 state solution...
you prompt your question using bad phrasing- the word Palestinian conveying one side argument and it is misleading and even misconception(lacking facts). if you refer to the resident of the area at or before 1900 you should include Palestinian Jews like Chaim Weizmann( scientist and biochemist who helped to develop ethanol fermentation and also served as the first president of Israel) or Eliezer ben Yehuda (any culture has its own "famous" in respect to the period they thrived) in my opinion, it is wrong to look at "fame" as an argument, because it is relative. Also i would like to know the poet you referred to.(i love reading poetry in any language from any culture-do you? ) @@andrew-parker928
@@andrew-parker928 Any poets who lived in the region pre-1900 were not Palestinians. They were (assuming you're talking post-1517) subjects of the Ottoman Empire.
@@Skobeloff... If it's raining outside and one group says it's raining and the other group says it is not.... That is not bias... It is one group lying and the other telling the Truth!
@Jihad Express what have you been smoking? I want that too. Are there seriously any sane people who think that the Arabs won the 1973 war? I mean by ANY objective criteria?
@Jihad Express you wrote : "god hates Israel that’s why America is collapsing and so israel will too" Sounds like a desperate "argument" from a pathetic loser. First, let's leave god out of it, shall we? There is zero proof of god hating anyone, even the Arabs , just you wishful thinking and judging by the results of the last 100 years, god is a zionist. Chew on that. As for collapsing America, I can paraphrase Mark Twain, who said therumours of my death have been greatly exaggerated. Chew on that too. As for "Israel will [collapse] too", your "prophetic" lot has been predicting Israel demise for how long? 70 plus years at least....YAWN...we've been waiting and waiting, while going from strength to strength, thriving and prospering, while your sorry lot has been sinking deeper and deeper into the abyss of your own creation. Enjoy your nakba with humus habibi, there will be many more to come unless you change your strategy.
@Jihad Express you have a strange definition of victory, and not very consistent as it applied to either side. A victory in war by one side is achieving its strategic military objectives. For example, in WWII the allies had a strategic objectives of eradicating the nazi regime and destroying its military capabilities. Erasing Germany and German people from the map was never an objective. In 1948, the Arab states and local Arabs had the objectives of eradicating Israel, getting rid of the Jews and taking all of the land of Palestine to divide between themselves (no independent Palestine was planned). They lost of every count, other than capturing and retaining West Bank, half of Jerusalem and Gaza that Israel was either not interested in (Gaza especially) or had no means to capture and defend. Israel on the other hand had the objective avoiding being overrun and annihilated, and capturing some lands outside of the 1947 partition lines (particularly Jerusalem)m with a sizable Jewish community. Israel did NOT have an objective of capturing and destroying Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt, keeping their lands, eradicating their regimes and armies . Unlike the Arabs, Israel achieved its objectives, I'd say. So it's a win for Israel. 1967 was a resounding win for Israel. Like I said in earlier post, the Arabs states and the PLO did not achieve a single war objective. The same for 1973 war. Israel did not have an objective of the annihilation of Egypt, Jordan and Syria. The objective was to withstand the Arab aggression and to retain all or as much "buffer" territory captured in 1967 as possible. Although Egypt managed to cause IDF some hard time at Bar Lev, and to gain a foothold on the portion of eastern flank of Suez Canal (while losing a portion of the western flank), the overall outcome was a loss for the Arab side. If you think the Arabs won in 1973, you must believe Narnia is real. 1982 Lebanese war was a mixed bag, but I doubt it can be classified as a definite loss for Israel. The Israeli objective was to push PLO out of Egypt and degrade its capabilities: achieved mostly, and could have been more if the US didn't intervene to prevent the complete destruction of PLO in Lebanon and escort Arafat to Tunisia, but at least the PLO was out of Lebanon. It also had an objective to push jihadi Hizbullah from its northern borders and degrade its capabilities. This was also mostly achieved. Being an asymmetric warfare with a terrorist organization hiding among civilian population, nobody in Israel's establishment had illusion that it was extremely difficult to outright impossible to eradicate jihadi ideology, just to deal them a mighty blow and make them think twice about attacking Israel again. Israel COULD have destroyed both the PLO and Huzbullah, but tat would necessitate turning Lebanon into a parking lot (like Germany or Japan in 1945) with massive civilian casualties, and this was something Israel was not prepared to do. The problem that Israel had that it stayed for too long and got bogged down in southern Lebanon, inviting guerrilla attacks. That was a mistake, but its subsequent unilateral withdrawal hardly constitutes a defeat. Certainly far less than the US/coalition withdrawal from Afghanistan which brought the country back to square one more or less. Lebanon now is certainly not Lebanon in 1982 before Israeli invasion. But I think Israel should have pounded Lebanon (and especially Hizbullah, PLO and their allies and their infrastructure and personnel) more, resisted Reagan's attempt to save Arafat, and got out quickly leaving Lebanon smoking in ruins. Which brings us to the current situation with Hamas and islamic Jihad in Gaza and Hizbullah (in Lebanon). IF Israel sets an objective of destroying these organizations (at least militarily and taking out their leadership completely), Israel can do that, with a relative ease. Militarily you cannot even compare the two. Ideologies would live on of course (just jihadi ideology lives on), but there would be few people to practice it, and even few to pose any serious military threat. But that would require turning Gaza ad south Lebanon into a parking lot with massive civilian Arab casualties, and possibly reoccupying Gaza and West Bank, and this is something Israel is not prepared to do, given that a threat from Hamas/islamic Jihad, and Hibullah is a relatively minor nuisance. Yes, it's unpleasant to run to the air raid shelter, and eve more unpleasant to have 1 dead Israeli for every 500 dead palestinians, but at this stage it's a conflict management. not a conflict resolution and Israel has a lot of experience. In the meantime, Israel economy is booming, all Israelis including Israeli Arabs are getting wealthier, more arab countries are ditching the palestinian cause and anti-israel agenda, and the Palestinians especially in Gaza are sinking deeper into abyss of their own creation and finally starting to see who their real enemy is. Hint: not Israel. Btw, have you noticed that West Bank Palestinians including Mahmoud Abbas' PA is staying largely out of Hamas "fight" with Israel?
@@sams_under_ale What wasn't done well? Since you seem to be unbiased with the #FREEPALESTINE in the channel name and definitely haven't already conjured up your opinion and are now close-minded towards the other side, what wasn't to your satisfaction?
@@cripple9860 So, if I'm anti-murdering puppies, and I go "hey, I don't like puppy murder," would you go "wow, you're so close minded, you've clearly already conjured your opinion of puppy murder, what about this puppy murder apologetics wasn't to your satisfaction?"
@@UniqueBreakfastTaco each country 800years ago was a different story… that is why after a bloody WW2 a map was drawn. normal countries which were divided but still shared a long history looked for ways to build projects together, to bring cultures together, to erase borders in a way that allows people to live in peace while still maintaining the legal borders. While countries like Russia always was looking to make some more wars on its neighbours as if they don’t have enough space pretending they “save Russians” or “we are afraid of Nato” sh*t.
The role of the Europeans in the Israeli Palestine issue is never discussed. The British imperialists first offered the zionists land in Africa belonging to the Masai to set up their country and then offered them the land of Palestine in return for monetary help in capturing that land from the turks. They also promised independence to Arabs living there in return for their help fighting the turks (Lawrence of Arabia). Evangelists believe that the second coming of Christ will happen when jews rule the biblical lands. (The muslims too are waiting for christ but in a different place.) The otherwise antisemitic europeans need to use the zionists for their own purposes of achieving the Rapture. The American evangelists have taken on the work of the Europeans now Israel is the largest recipient of US taxpayer aid in the world. It is also the second largest supplier of arms to China. on top of the $3 Billion they get every year, this year they will get $14 Billion
Strange to hear you refer to the Arabs as Palestinian prior to 1965..... that's not what they called themselves until Egyptian born Yasser Arafat invented the ethnicity......
You cannot invent an ethnicity. Perhaps you are referring to the invention of the name Palestine...which dates back to the late Bronze Age. There are writings that date back to the 17th century in which Palestinians refer to Palestine. In Arabic, Palestinians referred to themselves as Palestinian Arabs before simply Palestinian.
@@appaatemomo-freePalestine better check again.... Arabs were not called Palestinian until Yasser Arafat came up with the idea in 1965 (under the direction of the Soviets). The land that is today Israel and Jordan was at one time called Palestine, but there were no Arab "Palestinians".
@@jaycristoval6155 This is simply incorrect, as I said in my earlier reply. Palestinians called themselves "Palestinian Arabs" before the sixties. The argument you are using is a common Zionist tactic to justify the colonization of Palestine. It is an extremely poor justification, even considering nothing can justify colonization.
@@jaycristoval6155 You're arguing with a troll who isn't arguing in good faith. I've tried, but the pseudo-intellectual cherry picks and ignores information that doesn't fit his narrative, and then tries to shame others by claiming they didn't answer his challenges.
@@lennardchurch8483 Hi again. I've asked time and time again and you've never been able to point to any specific information that I have ignored. I'm not trying to shame you. It's very important when discussing such an important matter that everyone is well-informed and coming to the table with a thorough understanding of Palestinian and Israeli history.
One of my favorite DTS quotes. Tragically, the trade-off here seems to be: A) The Arab Islamists settle for peace and recognize Israel's right to exist, or B) Israel annihilates HAMAS, The PLO, the PA, and the "civilians" who support them, and unfortunately the civilians that the militants use as human shields. The latter option will probably trigger an escalation by the surrounding Islamists and the countries that harbor them or that are controlled by them. Likely, Israel will handle their military business and a regional conflict might then escalate into a World War.
@@josephnewbern2717The people who push that narrative are making a lot of assumptions though. Although I wouldn't rule it out I don't think we're a hair trigger away from that outcome either .
@@josephnewbern2717Your knowledge about this is too shallow and your source of information is obviously not credible. There has been no credible proof that Hamas is using its people as human shields. Bet you believe everything western media is saying because it's western. If you want to understand the Israel sudden ethnic cleansing, you must know more 1. Cause of the Syrian war a few years ago. 2. Ukraine Russia War 3. Destruction of Nord Stream pipeline 4. Syrian China agreement 5. China Iran Russia new energy axis 6. Unexplored Gaza oil reserve 7. Israel pipeline proposal All issues are connected and are authored by the American Government. It's all about 💵💵💵💵💰💰💰💰. Just like how America taught people Islamophobia so it can have the freedom to exploit middle eastern oil reserves. Victimized Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq. Made people believe that these Arabs defending their natural resources are terrorists. This is no longer a state issue of Israel and Palestine but a pipeline war of China Iran Russia vs NATO.
13 years after the same mistakes continue. The Israeli should adopt the Palestinian position amd not proceed with any peace deals again. If they want to live in the land they must abide by Israeli laws or leave. Enough of the unending wars. The Jews can never leave the land.
There was no "land", all the land of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel, Turkey, parts of Greece, Egypt and more were part of One large empire. The Ottomans had nothing called Palestine for their 400 years of rule. The land was divided into 3 to 5 Sanjaks (provinces), none called Palestine. The British illegally gave 77% of the Mandate of Palestine lands to the Arab Hashemites to become trans-Jordan, leaving only the 23% to become the future Jewish state!
It wasn't the Mandate of Palestine. It was the Mandate of Palestine and the Transjordan. The distinction between Palestine and what is now Jordan was recognized from the very beginning. So nothing was taken from mandate Palestine.
@@timothykooiman9236intention matters. Very few times have Christians or Jews attacked them to inflict casualties without just causes. Muslims on on the other , have slaughtered thousands of fakistinians
The US government used thermite to demolish the trade centers and then spread this propaganda to create the opinion you have now, congratulations you have been manipulated
Fake News by CNN War machine. The celebration Washington about Saddam attacking Israel with scuds 10 years before. The CNN relaunched the video in 9/11 to push world opiniões against arabs and again de-humanize palestinians
It was named Syria - Palestina first by Emperor Hadrian from the Roman Empire after he destroyed the settlement in Judea in 137 AD and kicked the rest of the Jews out of the area starting the first Jewish diaspora.
@@SocietalDefibrilation so when was the land not occupied? when the egyptions had it? when the romans had it? when alexander the great had it? there never was a county called palestine
Funny how you dispute that Palestinian people are real, but you’ll swear by the baby jesus that Israelis are real, even though that’s only a recent creation. And no, these yiddish khazars are not “Israelites” lol
@@dwillbecancelledsoon4086he never said that. And the Khazar hypothesis was been conclusively disproved by genetic testing and by history. It only ever thought to apply to Ashkenazi Jews from Europe. There is barely a trace of Khazar blood in modern Jewry according to extensive genetic sampling and historically most of the Khazars converted to Islam after their empire failed and was overrun by Muslim invaders. There are also Shephardic Jews from Iberia and Mizrahi Jews from Palestine, Yemeni Jews from Yemen, etc. Ashkenazi Jew generally look markedly different from Mizrahi Jews, usually fair unlike their olive skinned Mizrahi cousins. But despite this genetic testing shows that they actually have a small minority of European ancestors and most of their ancestors genetically are from the same population as the Mizrahi. Consistent with all known historical accounts that they were expelled from Palestine that was Judea, that they were descended from the builders of or at least worshippers in the Second Temple and they migrated, and that they did accept converts but it in fact happened only infrequently.
@@dwillbecancelledsoon4086 The history of the Jews and Judaism in the Land of Israel begins in the 2nd millennium BCE, when Israelites emerged as an outgrowth of southern Canaanites,[1][2][3][4] During biblical times, a postulated United Kingdom of Israel existed but then split into two Israelite kingdoms occupying the highland zone: the Kingdom of Israel (Samaria) in the north, and the Kingdom of Judah in the south - From Wikipedia With a pleasing savour I shall accept you when I take you out of the nations, and I shall gather you from the lands in which you were scattered, and I shall be hallowed through you before the eyes of the nations. And you will know that I am the Lord when I bring you to the land of Israel, to the land that I lifted My hand to give to your forefathers. - Book of Ezekiel 20:41-42 Both bible and historical sources acknowledge the land of Israel and have done for thousands of years xD
This was a very good summary of the Israeli perspective on the conflict. However, that being said, the Palestinian thought process has been sorely neglected. Why did they refuse the offered partitions? No reason is stated. No intellectualism on the part of Palestinians is offered other than the annihilation of the Jews. There is no mention of settlements in this video and barely any mention whatsoever of Jerusalem. It is presented as if no harm has come to any Palestinians in any way through the course of the conflict, which is not true. Regardless of whether or not Palestine is completely to blame, their side of the story should at least be presented in a logical manner. Try to understand impartially their past reasoning as well as the Jewish perspective. Otherwise you are fueling the conflict.
Adding to your replies; Jerusalem was orignally Jewish. It was founded as Jewish. Israel was Jewish, thousands of years ago. Continuing on; Why do the palestinians refuse? Well, then they'd lose the MILLIONS fueling the support against Israel world-wide - And they'd be sitting back with a poor, 3rd world backyard country with no infrastructure, electricity supplies, oil or even fresh water. Their government would be weak then, and they'd revolt against themselves - Thus, it's in the best interest of the palestinian leaders to not agree to any terms before the world decides; "You know what, let's just wipe Israel out". Because that is truly the only thing they want. That's FACT. The arabs will NEVER approve of the Jews. As long there are Muslims, the Jews will be their targets - For the Qur'an itself glorifies killing Jews, Christians and non-believers in general - Unless they surrender / subjugate to Islam. Islam means Subjugation, after all - Not peace. Islam itself isn't a religion, btw - it's a political tool for just this purpose. Brings me back to people saying the Crusades was a massacre of arabs - While it was, in truth, a counter-attack to the conquest of 2/3 of christian lands in Europe, soon after Islam started spreading. Thus, the Crusades started to re-conquer the lost lands and give some bloody payback. It was totally called for, and the Crusades were 'justified', you could say. Yet everything done in the Crusade was not encouraged by the Bible itself, the crusaders were merely repaying with the same coin.
If this video strikes you as a very informed account of the region's history, I would encourage you to do some more reading yourself. The presentation of the data is, to my (admittedly limited) knowledge, very selective. Some important facts and questions that are left out, just off the top of my head: 1) Where did the Balfour declaration come from? How do you think the prospect of creating a European-backed Jewish state in their homeland would have appeared from the Arab point-of-view? In this context, you have to realize that after the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire, which had been ruling Arab peoples for more than 400 years, many Arabs were looking forward to the prospect of governing themselves. Thus, the Palestine mandate looked to Arabs like it spelled the further postponement of an autonomy they felt was long overdue. 2) Another thing not mentioned here is that the Jewish state, as it was proposed by the international community, contained within its borders many Arab settlements and significantly populated cities. Imagine you were a resident of one of those places. How would you react to hearing that it was going to be incorporated into a different nation-not to mention one centered around a religion and set of values that differed from your own so dramatically? Furthermore, the proposed boundaries of the Jewish state also contained the region's best, i.e., most fertile, land. 3) Also, while this video takes pains to point out how Palestinians responded violently to Jewish immigration and nationalism, it fails to mention the violence and outright terrorism carried out in the other direction. For example, look up Deir Yasin or the King David Hotel Bombing. Basically, once the Zionists knew the British were getting ready to pull out of Palestine, and because the international community had already given their imprimatur for the creation of Israel, Zionist paramilitary (such as the Irgun and the Lehi-literal terrorist organizations that were indispensable to the founding of Israel) groups did their best to scare the shit out of the local Arab populations. They were successful in getting large numbers of them to flee before the official war broke out in 1948. This preceding conflict is known as the 1946-1948 Civil War.
Thank you for presenting this important context. IMHO though some of your info is not well researched. The land designated originally by Peel commission and later by UN, corresponded to areas predominantly populated by Jews with very limited resettlement options for Arab population. Almost 40% of Jewish portion was desert. Furthermore, it also correlated with the map of the lands that were originally considered unusable due to malaria infested swamps. They only became fruitful after Zionists reclaimed them at a cost of great personal sacrifice. As to the Arab cities, the largest ethnic group in Jerusalem at the turn of the century were Jews. Lastly the Arab national aspirations were well realized in Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon and Syria. National aspirations are unrealized in the world by many greater peoples and are not a reason for genocidal war against another ethnic group in contravention of international mandate.
@@bengore1989 I think your research is much poorer. - "corresponded to areas predominantly populated by Jews" - It is not true. The area given to the Jewish state had a slight Arab majority. - "with very limited resettlement options for Arab population" - what the hell do you mean by that? - "Almost 40% of Jewish portion was desert" - it is irrelevant and the Arab part was not better. The distribution of usable lands is only relevant, but only in case you think it was okay at all to create the settler colonial state by carving it out of the land. - "originally considered unusable due to malaria infested swamps" - this is simply because the colonist Jews could only by these lands so they could only settle there in the first place. Nobody wanted to sell them the usable lands, of course, exactly because the land was NOT underpopulated. But in 1947 the partiton gave the Jews a lot of usable lands they never bought and settled. - "only became fruitful after Zionists reclaimed them at a cost of great personal sacrifice" - nobody questioned their property as long as they did not want to carve their property from the land. But this was the actual goal of the Zionist movement from the very beginning. But property and soverenity are different things. - "Arab cities, the largest ethnic group in Jerusalem at the turn of the century were Jews" - and most cities on the coast had had no Jewish majority. Still they were given to the Jewish state. - "Arab national aspirations were well realized in Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon and Syria" - in what sense were "aspirations" of Arabs living in Palestine realised in Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon and Syria? 😀 - What "genocidal war" are you talking about in you last sentence? The one of the Zionists who have been cleansing Palestine for over a century to fulfill their "national aspirations" by agressively creating a Jewish majority and claiming they settled on a land with no people?!?
This is dishonest and only proves you don't read. Look no further to who the Muslim Lebanese sided w/ during the Civil War. Or rallies for their rights. Or countless ppl in prisons b/they're demanding their governments help. Have you been to an embassy in DC during a protest? What are ppl saying? Have you taken a psychology class and learned what happens when a ppl are plundered? You're not aware of massacres and expulsions to establish the state? If you're an adult, why repeat points, instead of reading and understanding yourself?
well then ask youself a big ?. why did all this seam just so 1 side. it almost he telling a story too you and not real tell how complicate the world is. what happend in 1995 after oslo acordes. did the curent Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu back 1995 hold a rally after where post a fake poster of then leader(Yitzhak Rabin) off israel in nazi uniform when i was working on oslo acords(that again this guy skipe over) what happend after Benjamin Netanyahu gast up supporters. two weeks later a zinosted killed. GG on falling for rightwing progade from president the half countery in protest beacuse he want destroy court in israel. just beacuse he courpt asshole that should step down. right know only reasoen why he is power he side the people that are even more extrem them him. even miltary in israel would let the guy benjamin has put in charge off securet in israel in army. pluss the guy that leader off setlemnts. sound more jews that try join nazi party back in 1940.
*“Stop talking about annihilating Israel and instead turn your terror war into a struggle for human rights. Then you will have the American people eating out of your hand.”* -General Giap, Yasser Arafat's N. Vietnamese advisor
+Bob Baker 1) gentiles is a curse word so your a fool if you call yourself a gentile 2) It were the "jews wo crucified christ" (if you believe that there was a real Jesus Christ) They even brag about it the talmud that they are proud of it and that he is boilig in human shit and calling Maria a whore etc. It even says it in the bible where the jews say: give us Barabas the murderer and let jesus be crusified (sorry I can't actually give the place in the bible where it is written)
What we have are people that hide behind Religion to cruelly Kill hundreds of Jews. This is not ALL Religions. Only ones that do this cause harm. We can clearly see where you are on this. The Jews deserve to exist and after repeated refusals by Palestine had enough, they have a right to defend their land, which would have been much smaller had Palestinians accepted earlier Treaties.
@@AksarallahIt's not about Religion. It's about Palestine, if they had accepted earlier "Treaties" would've had much more land. Whether he's Religious or not doesn't matter. The Jews have gone up against enemies that want to destroy them or eradicate them from wherever they go. This is nothing new. Israel does have a right to exist & defend themselves.
Lol zionists aren't interested in the truth. Even david ben-gurion admitted that zionists started the conflict. It's very simple European jews wanted to colonize palestina. According to zionist historian Benny Morris, zionists chose to accept the 1937 partition plan, so they could eventually takeover all of Palestine
Dear @darchapo ...... I am in no position to commdent on your statement all I want is lots of good things for all people of Israel .... and lots of love from me to them :-)
Thanks for this information. I know that they have been fighting all of my 70+ years lifetime, but until the very angry Palestinian protestors on the streets of London recently I have not paid much attention to the full details. It seems that the followers of Islam cannot live with any other religion.
Even david ben-gurion admitted that zionists started the conflict. It's very simple European jews wanted to colonize palestina. According to zionist historian Benny Morris, zionists chose to accept the 1937 partition plan, so they could eventually takeover all of Palestine.
Imagine starting a war because you refused to have peace, and then get destroyed in the war, and then start complaining the other side were the evil ones.
last i checked, Israel started the six day war. and well:
“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” -Ben Gurion.
you come and take their land, and you expect them not to react?
It's surprising you're writing this bc it's not brought up as a point anymore: nobody brings up the "war" b/c that's been refuted. Look up what really happened in 1948. This alone should show you the Arabs in the area, if really wanted to fight, would've stepped in 1946-47, when word of the first massacres and expulsions were happening. At that time 200,000 Palestinians were expelled. Read abt it from different sources. In 1948, there was no "war" of combatants vs. combatants, and no historian now denies this. What really happened is the "Arabs" (what is that exactly? Sudanese speak Arabic and they are "black") weren't interested in fighting, ill-prepared (every history book, no matter the persuasion, says this), and rearraging themselves after colonialism. They were simply responding to the massacres happening in the villages next door! Village by village, the Haganah and Irgun plundered and massacred it's inhabitants. Heck, even mainstream Isreaelis will point this out, and so do historians. So your comment is not only inaccurate, it shows you deny what's really happening. Torture in prisons, raids in refugee camps, massacres, like the Flour Massacre last month (again, every news organization covered this-now undeniable).
@@handsanitiser9832 lol you copying and pasting the same comment over and over again… that’s hard cope
@@KrakenUmbra It's the same response, so why should I write a new comment? My comment stands: there was no real war initially, and expulsions and massacres were the means to expand and create the state. Looks like you're the one bothered and "coping" by commenting.
@@handsanitiser9832 because you are just screaming the same nonsense all these brain dead pro-Palestine protestors scream with no substance. Denying of an Arab allied attack is the biggest amount of copium someone has snorted. Keep living in that delusional world mate. There is a reason why “Palestine” is looking like a Walmart parking lot right now, and it’s called years of Karma.
Firstly a disclaimer: Not a Jew, not an Arab, simply a Brit who studies Arabic at university and lived in Jordan (Amman) and Palestine (Ramallah) for a year. I lean more towards supporting Israel on the conflict (I refuse to use the term "pro-Israel" because it gives the impression that I side with Israel on all aspects, which would obviously be ludicrous), but ultimately see both sides as having good and bad within them.
While overall this video is correct in the information it provides (and is 7 years out-of-date), it does also leave out events and information (the Deir Yassin massacre of 107 Palestinian villagers, the controversy surrounding Plan Dalet, the exploitation of Ottoman home ownership laws etc) that would more correctly portray both sides of the conflict (although admittedly not every single facet can be shown without the video becoming hours long). It also jumps from the conclusion of the 1948 war to the Camp David accords of the early 2000s, completely ignoring many important things that happened in-between such as the 6 Day War and the start of the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, the Khartoum Resolution, Black September, the Munich Massacre, the Yom Kippur War, the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty, the Israeli invasion and occupation of southern Lebanon, the First Intifada, the Israel-Jordan Peace Treaty and the Oslo Accords. Post-2000 the video also ignores the construction of the West Bank barrier and checkpoints, the 2006 Lebanon War and the 2008 Operation Cast Lead.
As for the information provided, whilst (as previously stated) the information is generally accurate, there are some mistakes that I'll correct:
0:45 - There were no borders pre-1967. After the conclusion of the 1948 war, the Israelis and the Arabs agreed to armistice lines separating Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Egypt from Israel. The Arabs made it explicitly clear that these were simply ceasefire lines and didn't demarcate country boundaries, for the simple fact that it would unofficially be a recognition of Israel (which they refused to do).
1:46 - True, but while 10% were Jews, the majority of that 10% were recent refugees and immigrants from Europe making Aliyah.
3:28 (with reference to 2:31) - The Palestinian people didn't exist at this point as a national identity. Palestinian nationalism, the idea of the unique Palestinian people, arose as a response to Zionism and Israel and came to the forefront after the Arab defeat in the 6 Day War. At this point the now-Palestinians saw themselves simply as Arabs, no different from the other Levantines of Greater Syria, and pan-Arab nationalism and support of King Faisal was very much the default at the time (in fact his defeat and exile to Iraq after the 1920 Franco-Syrian War is one of the causes of the Nebi Musa Riots discussed from 3:22). It was mostly the collapse of the United Arab Republic in 1961; the humiliation of Abdel Nasser, the figurehead of pan-Arab nationalism, after his defeat in the 6 Day War; and the work of Yasser Arafat and his opposition to Zionism that led to the modern Palestinian national identity.
4:05 - Everything depicted here is true; however, it should also be noted that, along with 4 Arabs dying and 21 injured, sheiks of 82 Arab villages surrounding Jerusalem and Jaffa condemned the riots and attacks on Jews.
4:54 - Very true, there were many more riots and pogroms against the Jews, the worst probably being the massacres of 1929; however, as previously stated, this ignores Jewish attacks against the Arabs, the worst being of course the massacre at Deir Yassin.
5:49 - The Jews rejected the Peel Commission.
7:09 - Wrong order of events. After the declaration of the proposed UN Partition Plan in 1947, the Arabs started a civil war against the Jews which saw the beginnings of the Nakba. The other Arab states invaded in 1948 after the expiry of the British Mandate and the declaration of the State of Israel.
8:09 - The widely-accepted number of Palestinian refugees displaced in the Nakba is 700,000 or 80% of the population. 20%, or 150,000 Arabs, remained within Israel and became Israeli citizens (although under martial law until 1966). Specific cases to mention would be Haifa, where the Jews of the city pleaded with the Palestinians to stay and not flee as refugees; and the expulsions at Lydda and Ramle, where Palestinians were literally forced out of their homes at gunpoint under the threat of death.
8:14 - Not so much sent as they were already there due to fighting in the war, and they also occupied East Jerusalem. Worth mentioning as well that the Jordanians expelled every single Jew living within the Jewish Quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem and throughout the West Bank; denied all Jews, not just Israelis, any access to all holy sites within East Jerusalem and the West Bank (eg the Western Wall, the Temple Mount, Rachel's Tomb, the Cave of the Patriarchs etc - too many to mention really, the entire area is riddled with important historical Jewish sites) until their loss of the territory in 1967; destroyed synagogues, including blowing up the famous Hurva Synagogue in Jerusalem; desecrated ancient Jewish cemeteries; and looted and vandalised Jewish property.
8:40 - This is annoyingly misleading, painting the notion that the Palestinians reject peace agreements simply because they're against the very idea of peace with Israel. Just because the Palestinians disagree to the terms of a peace agreement doesn't mean they're anti-peace; similarly, just because Israel rejected the 2002 Arab Peace Initiative doesn't mean Israel is anti-peace, it just means they disagree with the terms of the agreement.
8:54 - Conflation of the Camp David Summit of 2000 and the Taba Negotiations of 2001. Yasser Arafat walked away from the Camp David Summit, true, but the terms of the agreement were nowhere near as favourable as the video says; instead, the terms the video talks about were part of the Taba Negotiations, which were ended by the Israeli PM Ehud Barak because of the upcoming Israeli elections - his successor, Ariel Sharon, never resumed the negotiations. This is still widely claimed to be the very closest they've ever got to a peace agreement, stating they were only mere weeks away from a final resolution.
9:16 - The Second Intifada began after Ariel Sharon visited the Temple Mount with an entourage of 100-odd Israeli riot police. Palestinians rioted against his visit, the Israelis cracked down of the riots, voilà Second Intifada.
10:06 - Skipped a bit. The Palestinians in the Gaza Strip then held the legislative elections in 2006. Hamas got the highest amount of votes, 44%, with Fatah getting the second highest at 41%. Hamas then took over the entire Gaza Strip, executing not only Fatah but all their political rivals, throwing them off buildings and driving them out to the West Bank; then they started the rocket launches against Israel, leading to the blockade in 2007.
10:12 - The Olmert Peace Plan is misrepresented here. The then-PM Ehud Olmert was convicted of corruption and bribery, indicted and sent to trial, stepping down as PM. This all happened just days after he summoned Abbas to the private meeting where he first brought up the proposed peace plan, saying that Abbas had to accept ASAP or it was off the table. At 10:43 there's a crucial mistake in that Abbas was forbidden from taking a map of the proposed agreement - Olmert refused to grant Abbas one after he asked. Abbas went back to his advisors and had to hand-draw the map from memory on a napkin, with his advisors rightly saying that agreeing to anything without proper perusal would be idiocy. Frankly the entire thing was dead in the water before it ever really began, it had no chance of happening.
Wow this became a very long post, but the video needed a few corrections. Everything else mentioned in the video is correct to the best of my knowledge.
Joseph David can you recommend a good and unbiased source to get a good overview of the conflict in an hour or so?
Thank you
Joseph David, Wow thank you!
@leumasdiderot You were the squatter. The ancestral lands were lost due to war and the lands were reclaimed with war. Squatting on the land afterward and then claiming its suddenly your ancestral land because you lived there most recently is hogwash. Crying that you lost is just as bad as ANY NAZI crying that Germany deserved better after the holocaust. Don't be a NAZI. Accept that you are not going to win any war against Israel and learn to live in peace. That means ACCEPTING a two state solution or one not at all. Their is no more winning to be had. There is simply peace.
Thank you!
I guess you can't have a 2-state solution when the Palestinians will only accept one state as the solution.
You hit the proverbial 'nail on the head' there my friend.
The Palestinians will tell you that they accepted the borders but the Zionists didn't, they will also tell you that the supposed offers by Israel weren't genuine offers & that Israel had no intention of complying with them if Palestine accepted them.
Never forget that USA's politics is controlled by Israel & USA will start any war Israel requests.
why should they accept having their state split in 2 for a second time in less than a century and that the territory was given away to the jews by Britain because Rothchild holds them by the balls?
@@TopDingoMan He absolutely didn't. Out of the seven parties in the present coalition four of them do not recognise the Palestians right to a state. Israel too does not accept a two state solution.
@@matematikniels Anyoune would get bored of continous refuses.
The Jews angered the Arabs even more by creating a thriving, vital nation with first world status where even the Muslim citizens had a good life.
Which only goes to show that Arabs are just bone-idle and always have been.
Yeah with the billions given to them by America. Otherwise they wouldn’t sustain anything. Also Muslims live like second class citizens in Israel. Not sure if you’ve actually been there or lived there
I will never understand the Jew hatred and anti-Zionism. Zionism is literally no different from the nationalism in Europe and Arab nationalism. I don’t think there is any difference to say that one is worse/better than the other. Israel is not a bloodless country, but so are the rest of the world. Every country has its skeletons.
Who would have thought that millions of Jews carving out a country in the middle of 100 million Muslims would be a problem? This whole problem could have been prevented if the US had given New Jersey to the Jews. American, British, and Jewish Zionists thought Palestine would be a good place for Jews to make a country.
@@subcommanderxelios800France is not an ethno-state with laws saying only white people with roots going back thousands of years there have a right to self-determination. They also don’t run concentration camps where they lock up and siege everyone who doesn’t fit that description. If you can’t see the difference you don’t know anything about either country.
Cant believe that this video is from 13 years ago, and tons of people still simply refuse to study history.
😂 believe everything you hear
😂😂
Study it!? They wish to change it! 😂
This video is just jewish propaganda lol he leaves out that well the arabs rioted for beimg kicked out of their homes.
The jews threw 40s killed hundreds of civilans in Palestine threw terror attacks and bombings. Then up grading to mass murdering entire villages. All prior to the Israel arab wars. Israel wasnt attacked for no reason.. just months before the war the jews were massacred an entire village and displaced 10s of thousands of civilians.
Look up the massacre of deir yessin april 1948, the bombing of the king david hotel, officers club bombing, tel aviv bombing etc etc
As with all videos like this, it is a one-sided biased history. Some of us actually read instead of getting our information from TH-cam.
Starting wars @ losing them doesn't make you the victiim
I've been recently informed that wars have to be "proportional" as well. An that if you're winning then you're done kind of monster.
This war started with the creation of the Zionist party. Truman was a greedy, and may he rot in hell for this, but he only supported the state of israel because he needed Jewish votes in the USA. Obviously, I have basic human morals, which means that I sympathize with the Jews for the disaster of the holocaust. But just because you suffered this does not mean that you can use Manifest Destiny to steal the land of an entire people. Unjust and disgusting. Personally, the Palestinians would have been fine if the Jews lived there peacefully, with healthy laws and a healthy amount of immigration done. But Britain had to go and dump them in Palestine, with illegal immigration, without consent, violating international law and ethics, signing the Balfour Declaration which also breaks international law, creating ILLEGAL settlements, and ignore all of this suffering until the times that we actually attempt to strike back from all the rape and burning and torture that the Zionists have subjected to us. But, you all act like the victims and label Islam, the only true religion, as a "religion of terrorists" for self defense. I agree that not all Jews are Zionists, which is why I have absolutely no hate for any of the Jews. Nor are we anti semitic, because THE ARAB COUNTRIES ARE SEMITIC COUNTRIES. It is unfair. Wrath and suffering upon the oppressors!
HAMAs which is less than 2% of Gazas population started the war. Palestinians as a group did not. Let me guess, you are some religious person feeling like they have to defend Israel’s slaughter of 10,000+ innocent women and children to make yourself feel better within your religion…
That's one of the best comments I've seen on this horrendous situation. It seems certain peoples/states are repeat offenders at it in the Middle East. Also, it's a shame more isnt' made of the fact that Hamas are not just another political party wanting their own state. They are religious extremists who want to turn the entire area back to some kind of medieval theocracy. The irony is how many in the liberal left support this ideology that hates liberal left values and wants to gain power precisely to exterminate those liberal values.
@@LizRealGirlBeauty 1948 and 1967 and 1973 wars was not proportional in favor of Israel. But with that, Israel winning them.
This creator must be surprised that their 12yr old vid has become super relevant and goes viral after all this time. Never abandon hope.
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@@MrKeeft1 Whaaaat?
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@@davidpolander5899 Well, at least we know it isn't a bot account. No one makes them that bad. :)
I think they said "There will always be warmongers, but the UK has been told [that] without an arms trade, there's no finance, so how....." I think that if they don't trade arms with whoever it is that "told" them, the UK will not receive any money from them and so the post's author is wondering how, but his post drops off, and so still it's a big "what?"@@davidpolander5899
Arafat wasn't a so called "Palestinian" he was born,raised & educated in Cairo,Egypt!!
Thats trivial
He was an Egyptian mountebank…but he died rich.
Palestinian parents
Ben gurion was born and raised in Poland.
@@CreamedCorn2002how come? If the Palestinian nationality was only created in 1964 BY Yasser Arafat - how were his parents Palestinian?
Every single time I try to research and understand the history of conflicts in this region, I just get more and more confused....
I can make it simple. The Palestinians will never ever be happy peaceful people. For centuries they've bred hate and evil. Enough is enough. Now the UN, who was created to solve the problem have all gone dark. Back in the day Nixon said "soon it will be time to get out of the UN and get the UN out of us".
@@kevin2028why do you think they want all or nothing?
@@kbrown5218they're evil because... they just are ok??
It's actually very simple. There was NEVER a country originally called "Palestine". Israel was renamed Palestine by the Romans after they conquered it. There was no such thing as a "Palestinian" until after the 6 Day War. "Palestinians" are Syrians & Egyptians living in Israel & were kept out of their country of origin after the Muslim's defeat by Israel. Israel is the Promised Land given to the Jews by God after their escape from Egyptian slavery. Muslims have been invading & conquering other countries since Mohamed founded the cult in the 7th century. Every muslim "holy site" is built on a place of importance to the people they conquered, just like they wanted to build a mosque at the World Trade Center after 9/11. Muslims, much like America's dumb-0-craps, have never been the party of peace. They openly preach to enslave or kill all the "infidels" meaning EVERYBODY who is not a practicing muslim.
@@kevin2028 I totally agree with you that they want all or nothing (at least the leadership does)! I was wondering why you think think that to be the case
A correction...It says "in April 1920 Palestinians poured into the old city"...but these Arabs refused to be called "Palestinians," in fact at the time and throughout the first half of the 20th century it was considered an insult to Arabs, like calling them "dirty Jews" since the Jews were the ones known as "Palestinians." They insisted on being called simply "Arabs." But yes, these are the people who perpetrated regular massacres of Jews in the 1920s and 1930s.
Why?
You mean they attacked people who came to their land as colonists?
@@BiharyGabor I am at a loss for words. What are you speaking about?
@@kennye6088 Well, I did not ask about the term "regular massacres" because I think you know the facts and your wording is a conscious choice disregarding them. I would call it misrepresenting but this is not my point for now.
My point is WHOM they attacked in the 1920s and 1930s. Those were the settlers having arrived recently, not the Palestinian Jews who had been living there for generations. In this case it was a fight over the land between the indigenous Arabs and the European (and American) colonisers. This had happened in several places all over the world.
The permanent rant about how the indigenus people was called is just distraction attempt, it has no relevance at all.
It's a pretty common Israeli propaganda tactic to try and deny Palestinians their individual culture so they can say the land was really "barren" apart from some "Arabs" that have no particular connection to the land and should just go live in some of the many "Arab countries". But this is misusing the fact that statehood as such is a modern Western idea that only arrived in this area when the conflict arose. As a result Jews developed an Israeli national identity where before there was only a religious and cultural/ethnic Jewish identity, and so did Palestinians. But it's clear the "Arabs" of Palestine had a strong connection to the land and a distinct cultural and linguistic identity tied to that long before. So when you hear this argument know that it is wrong and anachronistic, trying to apply current day norms to a period when they didn't exist in that area yet.
The fact that this was done 12 years ago, is amazing.
The fact that Israel slaughtered people there 3000 years ago? Even with tactics similar to those that financed Hamas back then.
th-cam.com/video/S3eLWgy2jus/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LpB8mlmKiIbK_94O
12 years old and still better than what MSM is spewing.
Not really when this has been going on for over a century.
Yeah like, 12 years ago? Crazy long, dude. Can't believe it, mind blown. What a prophet.
@@blackbeltjones2903 I am a prophet as well, in 12 years you will still be an ass
I don't think that many people in the 2020s were ready to see this video
A 1 sided victim narrative about zionists
@@ComputeCrashers because it's horrible and genocide apologia?
@@sebastiand1941 What an idiot you are.
The reason people don't want to see the video is because they probably didn#t have an inkling about any of it and realise they are protesting for a two.state solution on behalf of people who never wanted a two-state solution, for example.
nor when it was made in the 2010s..... and when it comes to Islamist they were and will never be ready.... their hate for Jews is greater than their love for Allah or peace (and this is why they teach their children to hate as soon as they can walk) - disgusting animals
@@sebastiand1941 no because people like you are incapable of differentiating truths from your dogma
This is why i get triggerd of people that choose sides without knowing any history. The fact that this shows just how important history and knowledge is
Like both Palestinian Jew and Arabs attempted to forge alliance with Nazis in 1940, but Hitler's genocide started since 1939, and yet Zionists claim it is Amin Husseini who manipulated their beloved Nazis to commit Holocaust.😂
The only side is the side of those losing their children by the thousands
@@zk2939 I agree with you, hoping that you are meaning the children of both nations and not Just once ❤
Watching one video doesn't mean you know the history bro. This video is obviously extremely biased btw
@@recoilAbshow would you counter argue any of these facts?
You left out that only 'Palestinian' Refugee have their own UN Department (UNRWA) and that theirs is the only refugee status that is hereditary so that number of refugees grows instead of diminishes. No other group is treated this way. For all other groups only the initial displaced persons are considered refugees. Their descendants born elsewhere are not.
Not even the Kurds!
Obviously great grandchildren of refugees suffer as much as impoverished Yemeni children escaping war zones.
Everything about the Palestinian people is a lie ! They lie about the whole situation. Isreal has attmepted peace many time only to be met with rocket attavks and other violence, no counter negoiation just violence. They dont want peace they want evey Jew dead.
@@meekmeads They have to have this department at the UN. NOBODY WANTS THEM. Not one brother nation included. Lebanon once took them in, and they destroyed their nation for a 'thanks'. There's a good reason nobody; not one brother wants these people and never have.
@@meekmeads Let's ignore the Kurds because their oppressors are of the wrong faith/ethnicity :(
I remember when this style of video was sweeping through TH-cam. The good ol’ days
I miss it, honestly enjoyed the information this way.
@@9usuck0 clear and to the point 👌
@@hihi-xi1vi for me, it mimics the way I was in class. I doodled what my professors were talking about. My notes are random words with lots of drawings. Lol
@kimweimann4310 Well, mister wordy, if that isn't the kettle calling the pot black. I think your defense is downplaying the Arab side in an attempt to make their conflict seem more even. That's like saying native Americans and US soldiers both bloodied each other. Sure, they both had negative actors, but one side was openly encouraging it as a means of rejection and the other as a right to remain in place.
Oh sweet little boy, I was already a teenager before smartphones existed and we learnt in school about this new thing called 'youtube', didn't like it that much because I didn't know what interested me though but the first thing I've ever watched was something of ghost rider during IT class. 😂
Hamas|Gaza prefer victimhood to statehood, hate to love, lies to truth.
Dishonest, stereotypical response. Glenn Greenwald discussed this on his show. Anyone who makes these comments obviously hasn't read or isn't convinced of the vile, supremist onslaught people have faced for 80 years. Look no further of them posting videos of themselves in Gaza now: proudly engaging in torture, lauging as they destroy, sniping children in the head, writing threatening grafitti on buildings. They recently posted themselves burning a library. They're no hiding it, so why comment abt a people obviously being plundered, and who are, indeed victims of a convoluted plot? If you're an adult, why comment w/out seeing context first?
And they prefer death to life.
@@jaybee9269 This is inaccurate. Who is the purveyor of death in all this?! Braggin abt sn ipping children on camera and tort ture? Urinating on corpses? They post videos of this on social media, so they don't hide it. And these are ppl who see all human life as worthy? Believers in human rights??!!
@@jaybee9269 This is inaccurate. Who is the purveyor of death in all this?! Braggin abt sn ipping children on camera and tort ture? Urinating on corpses? They post videos of this on social media, so they don't hide it. And these are ppl who see all human life as worthy? Believers in human rights??!!
It is so strange to me how they love to live in pain and destruction, in hate and want to massacre and exterminate Jews. But that is Hamas/Gaza ideology. None of the (pro) Palis I talk to online takes responsibility for their own behavior and choices. This is already a form of dominance, by being the victims at all times. It is meant and used as a means to terrorize.
People will still be watching this video in a 100 years except the situation will be a little more confusing than now.
It's not confusing at all. Jews want to live next to an Arab state and they and the world keep trying to give the Palestinians land. But the Palestinians hate the Jews so much they would rather kill them then share anything.
In 100 years the one or other won’t exist anymore.
@@Morowinger except it's been going on for 75 years already...so nah...they'll being doing this still in a 1000 years.
@@ChadLucianoHopefully Islam will be exposed as the perpetual 7th century sham it is.
Hopefully in a hundred years we can visit the glass crater left by them destroying each other and look upon it and say, "here lies the crater that finally ended a battle between whose gawd was better that lasted 3000 years". Because they've not been fighting for merely 75 years...
At least you know he isn't biased by recent events in this video lmao
No, people have been indulging in ahistoric hasbara for ages now
Yeah, but still this whole channel is biased on far right. It has videos against the Geneva Conventions, and says Environmentalism has n4z1 roots, like wtf is this
Yeah this channel would lick q annon boots.
No he's
@@EMAbreuLucas It's true, study history. Nature worship dates back throughout Germanic history and the Nazi ideology expanded upon it when they rose to power. Nazism was basically rooted in the idea that an elite enlightened class ought mold and manage society like a potter molds clay. In order to do this power must be centralised and the rule imposed forcefully over the people. This is EXACTLY what is occurring today with the "climate change" agenda. Whether it be Jacobin's (French reign of terror), Nazi's, Bolsheviks, Tito, or the CCP, they ALL use some "crisis" to justify to the population to centralise power and then that power is ALWAYS abused. There is nothing new under the sun.
Sad that 12 years later there's actually even more people deluded about the truth. Especially the truths of history and it seems this particular conflict. More young dingbats than there ever used to be. Teaching the next gen is so important!!!
Yes, people think this was like a Palestinian nation that existed forever and they invited Jews persecuted in Europe and then the Jews turned on them and stole their land. When reality is there have always been Jews, Christians and Muslims there and they moved in and out. And large parts were empty . This video is good as a starter but there are also many other details like how as Jews begin to move their the economy would improve and Arabs would also start to move to those areas. And how Jews in other middle east/North African areas were kicked out .
@@J7pat7because it did exist, but with a different name, also the reason the economy got better was because of america jelping Israel and because before that these places have been getting invaded and because of world war, and the arabs moving there part was the arab Jews, though i do agree about muslims/christians/jews living together there
Never had any rights to the land from the beginning, they are just a colonizer plain and simple.
@@nassemthegreat9582 I find this an interesting point. As an Atheist from England It's not my chief concern but where would you say that a Jewish state should be, if not Israel? Or should Jews not exist or have their own country? I'm intrigued....
@@howardmonument6093 Ethnostates should not exist, period. Only white supremacists and Zionists agree with these ideas because they want to exclude people they don't like, both evil and fascist. If you support a Jewish ethnostate why not support a White ethnostate?
And the Grand Mufti of Palestine went to Nazi Germany and recruited 40,000 Balkan Muslims to fight against the allies and Hitler asked them to commit Jihad and the Gufti spoke Nazi propaganda until the end of the war!
...and now Israel is acting like Nazis, this will not be forgotten.
15,000 Palestinians fought against Nazi germany in ww2. Even if they fought for nazis, it doesn’t justify modern treatment
They’re acting like Nazis for defending themselves? 😂 Wow that’s delusional! So Oct7 didn’t happen?
@@lycan6432True but continually attacking Israel does.
@@FTW412 You appear to have missed the 30,000 civilian murders, the forced starvation, and the very legitimate war crime charges. People like you are the reason why things like this happen.
It seems to me that in our contemporary world lies have so much more power than the truth.
its not that lies hold power over truth its the power of "fwee wings" *AND* Lies
The narrative thrives upon lies and labels truths as heresies.
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
The age of information has quickly become the age of misinformation
This video is biased and probably lead you to one side.. i prefer the video from Crashcourse "conflict in israel and palestine" Which has more "neutral" content.. peace✌️
Why no mention of the killing of Yitzhak Rabin, the Israeli Prime Minister, in 1995, by Yigal Amir, an Israeli extremist? It bids to be one of history’s most effective political murders. Two years earlier, Rabin, setting aside a lifetime of enmity, appeared on the White House lawn with Yasser Arafat, to agree to a framework for limited Palestinian self-rule in the occupied territories including ceding most of the occupied territories back to the Palestinians; the next year, somewhat less painfully, he returned to the White House, with Jordan’s King Hussein, to officially end a forty-six-year state of war. Within months of Rabin’s death, Benjamin Netanyahu was the new Prime Minister and the prospects for a wider-ranging peace in the Middle East, which had seemed within Rabin’s grasp, were dead, too. Twenty eight years later, Netanyahu is into his sixth term, and the kind of peace that Rabin envisaged is more distant than ever.
Yes always Blame Israel as even though the Arabs have rejected every single move for peace.
Key word in your comment> "seemed."
So all of this is because of Netanyahu?!
The Palestinians have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Rabin's death meant nothing because Palestinians will never settle for a 2 state agreement. Did you not listen to the video?
@paulfildes5489 Great point! I remember the popularity of Rabin and the hope for peace in Israel before his assassination.
welp, this aged well.
@@Genuinelycuri0us it aged like shit
@@sebastiand1941 cope
@@khamzic2890no u
@sebastiand1941 the only shit I smell is you.
@@khamzic2890 I love how every middle school edge lord suddenly adopted "cope" into their lexicon. I can imagine how smug they must feel every time they type it out, like obedient little lapdogs.
Love how a simple bit of research keeps showing me information just like this.
very information and enlightening!
Enlightening? Video is very obviously biased. Excludes the massacres of zionists against Palestinians. Look up Nakba
@@fuzulibostan1796 the nakba was the term used to refer to the war they lost
it's like saying "yasir nakbna" when they lost their homes after losing the war
crazy! image losing ur home because u lost a war you started
btw
many people in the nakba never left when they were ordered to
i don't wanna break it to you since u prob will go in a denial spyral, many of their younger generations are now the isreali arabs living a betterlife
grow a spine because you are clearly misinformed/biased
@@fuzulibostan1796I looked up the Nakba. Now what? Lay out your point.
You could read Professor Shlomo Sand's books, also Ilan Pappe, Whitlam regarding 'The Invention of Ancient Israel', and the book regarding the nearly 4,000 year history of Palestine by Nur Masalha (from the Bronze Age Philistia, references in Herodotus' Histories, Roman provinces Palestina Primus and Secundus and also in through the medieval period to 17th, 18th and 19th C references - obviously there was renaming especially during the Ottoman period.) Nonetheless the people seem to have been fairly stable over the long term with the indigenous Jews being, genetically seaking, close relatives to the other regional semites, unlike many Euro-American Jewish settlers who seem to be primarily Caucasian. Apparently this has been backed up by a genetic study in the Lancet. Palestine is not a recent invention whatever the political agendas of either Zionists or Arab pan-nationalists.
Only pointing out that this is what the modern evidence, not least the archaeology, seems to indicate.
As with most histories in this presentation what is most interesting is what is left out. All the best.
@@Omar_05 the point is u can't expect a large population of people to live in one place and expect to bring jews from all over the world u know how big that is and settle them in one place that will result in one group having to leave now imagine ur an American and some Russian comes to take Ur home where u grew up he can leave and go back to his home but where the hell are u going to go and ur home is America so the Arabs were right to refuse coz if they accepted they would have no place to call home so the Jewish settlers needed to leave
I am 17 years old girl with a learning disability. this is so hard for me to understand but I'm trying every day to be more informed......
I’d recommend trying to follow a few TH-camrs by the names of “apostate prophet, and ApologeticsRoadshow”. They usually do livestreams but they also have videos that clarify this stuff in a more digestible manner. AP is a ex Muslim and has done videos explaining Muslim culture and essentially why groups like Hamas even exist.
you'll get more disable if you learn from their perspective.
try another perspective.
the palestinians were arabs, native yudeans, and christians living happily ever after until these european self identify yudean came in boats.
I heavily recommend Rabbi Yaarkov Shapiro, Norman Finkelstein, George Galloway, Mohammed Hijab, and Bassem Youssef
@elij1130 Ah yes Mohammed Hijab the part time stripper.
@@begobolehsjwjangan2359this comment is lol
The fact that it's done 12 years ago and it's still telling the reality - and that the video is not the pretend-to-be-writing animations! So amazing
the drawings are a true mastery. Love this video and its truthfulness
It lyes, right in the beginning. Palestine was NOT underpopulated. It was inhabited at the beginning of the 20th century as densely as many French regions.
This lye is crucial because this is intended to be one of the main justifications of massive Jewish immigration and massive displacement of Palestinians.
Nice zionist propaganda. If you want to learn something about the history of Palestine and zionism , you should listen to the jews , Norman Finkelstein, Noam Chomsky, Miko Peled, Hajo Meyer, Rabbi Davod Weiss, Ilan Pappe, Gideon Levy etc.
@@BiharyGabor
Palestine got inhibitated by inmigrant Arabs, we know, like at least 1/4 came afterwards and ofc they lived in disperse area not in some community and unity or entitiy under some rule. That came work for the Brits and killed the Jews that bought the swamp.
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Among the many ironies of the history is that since 1948, the Druze have almost always been supporters of Israel, including serving in the IDF. But it was the Druze who attacked Jews or led the attacks on Jews back in 1660 and in the 1800s.
Well, they understood they get better rights and a better quality of life under democratic rule than under an Islamic Caliphate or any Islamic non-democratic rule..
you can't remember what you ate for dinner and speaks about what happened in 1660 !
I was in Israel a few months ago and spoke to many Druze people in the North of Israel- as they put it, they love Israel and love living there. Many Druzey are in the army as well. They need Israel to remain and to be safe in order to have a safe place to live themselves. 💜
Overall really sweet people
This is because nations change and learn to get along with their neighbors. We're all waiting on the 'Palestinians'.
@@LA-cm9uo 1. Israel was created by taking land and self-determination from the Palestinians by conquest, expelling, and terrorism in the lead up to May 1948 (see Plan Dalet and the Jewish Irgun & Lehi, US declared terrorist groups who were key in the creation of Israel and who later became Likud).
That's been known a long time: "The Palestinian people do not exist. There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese. We are part of one people, the Arab nation. Lo and behold, I have relatives with Palestinian, Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian citizenship. We are one people. It is only for political reasons that we carefully endorse our Palestinian identity. Indeed, it is of national interest for the Arabs to encourage the existence of the Palestinians in the face of Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity is only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new means to continue the struggle against Israel and for Arab unity." - Zuheir Mohsen, Palestinian leader of the Syria-controlled as-Sa'iqa faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO).
Well stated... Very obvious ...once mentioned... All the historical evidence leads to your correct assessment 😎👍
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_attacks
And jews are also in this genetic pool. All this 5 countries are relatives. Should find way how to live peacefully, but no, stupid ksenofobik religious and cultural differences.
No they exist. They live in Palestine.
@@yf6mt thank you for stating the truth.. it isn't obvious to everyone..🙏.
its 12 years old now , this video. Nothing has changed in arab leadership which is an oxymoron
Like “Arab Democracy” or “Somali Judge.”
The best thing the Palestinians could do is get rid of Islamic Jihad and Hamas
you do know that IL also attacks christian,muslims,and jew pali's right....?
@@raghadradi8840 isn't it the job of smarter more rational muslims to correct their ideologically lost brothers. They don't correct the violent acts of terrorists but then call Israel a demonic state when it hits terrorists back. What hogwash lel
@hunter christensen "Actively target civilian with rocket" from what I see this is because of their capabilities, they do what they could to defend their homeland with whatever they had. On the other way, Let's see on the Israel side, they have advanced weaponry that can target precisely from far away. But, even with advance weapon why are there MANY of civillian casualties ? I do not believe that it is merely error or a collateral damage. Even more than the casualties from Israel side. Note here that I do not support what Hamas did to Israel civilian, but i do understand their limited way to fight for their freedom. They don't have many option to begin with.
@hunter christensen are you comparing the oppressed occupied with nazis?
Really?
You could compare the goyiem principal in jewdiesem to nazies which states that all non jews are lesser you could compare the use of israeli military power against civilians or their aparthide regime or occupation with nazis you could compare their act of sterilizing arab women and black women and ethnic cleansing to nazis but no you chose to comparethe ones defending themselves with nazis
And no matter evidence or facts stated to you, you chose to be on the oppressor side its amazing how israel turns people int puppets by their media control
@hunter christensenantisematism itself is an old lie lol
arabs are a sematic race so you can't rly come accuse us of being antisematic lol but what do you know
A 5 minute search on youtube or anyplatform will give you all evidence but you the one who refuses to be fair
And quite honestly we argue out of confidence
We don't want your support
Zionest heads like you are everywher and we will burn israel on our own cuz we have the right to defed ourselves
It would be nice to have an updated slide to include the more recent two presidents, and how the UN and others are behaving towards these groups today.
This one is a bit longer but covers more recent developments in the 2nd half- th-cam.com/video/7Jyc-LzXqk0/w-d-xo.html
Propaganda or not? For the ignorant, here is A must Y.Tube view: "Free Palestine? No thanks! (The Israeli perspective)" // Need reality? ...then go figure like I did.
Yeah he will be decietful in new update video as well just like he is in this one. Nakba massacres not mentioned, 2 states solution deal not explained how it favored zionists
@@davijchaudhry8924 Yes, please explain, how getting 20% of the land was so advantageous to the Jews.
Please explain, how after a lost war getting offered half was such a disadvantage to the Arabs.
Please explain, how, after 3 lost wars and getting 98% of their demands was such a disadvantage to Arafat that he had to leave the table.
Truth is, they did NOT care about the people, THEIR people.
And most of the crying hearts of the new generations know nothing of history that was not propagandized.
there is enough there. After pull out of Gaza nothing changed in principle, except of course October 7th
The sky is black in Garza but it’s always sunny in Qatar
even if the jews gave em the lot they still wouldnt be happy
daddy's special boy needs to be hated to prove he's the special boy.
True, but neither would the Jews
@@oswaldbojangles5247I think your wrong there ,it's the palestinians that have been given so many deals but reject every one
When Israel moved out of Gaza, they left behind a lot of greenhouses where they used to grow food. The Palestinians destroyed everything and danced on the ruins…
@@johnnyboy1586 Israel doesn't need a good deal, it already owns the Western Hemisphere, Israel is just intended to be a headquarters/safe haven from where to keep the goyim lands under control and escape should nature take it's course on a national scale for the 110th time
"If i dont steal your land, someone else will".
- fat Yacob, 2021
Would be nice to have an updated video with every US president’s slant since this video.
This video is a lie. It’s one man’s bias supported by cherry picked data.
BEn Shapiro does that but not sure if it's accruate given he is a pro-IS
Why is that!
I heard hezbollah has fiberoptic cable? Why don’t they just stop the mass schitzobait disinformation campaigns the only tactics their enemies use the only tactic the cultic leadership in the area allows but they don’t like realize everything they believe is an oriental delusion or something or those in power just don’t care enough to destabilize the lie in their own mental and then in their environment?
@@dwightchaos9449 Thats not a question want to try again!
It isn't about a Palestinian state, isnt about two states, it's about the existence of the state of Israel. That should be clear to those who want to see. From 1299 to the fall of the Ottoman Empire after WW1, up to the beginning of the implementation of the Balfour Declaration, there wasn't a peep from the people in the province of Syria Palestine about independence or whatever. Once any inch of the region was no longer under Islamic control, rather under Jewish control, all hell was let loose.
That is a brave move to leave the comment section open.
He deletes everything that challenges what he presented, so no I wouldn't call it brave lmao
@@khaled_osman hm...
@@SGOV86 do yourself a favor and search for everything he said on wikipedia or elsewhere.
@@khaled_osman they all do that. Bunch of cowards. That scream anti Semitism if someone criticizes them or their apartheid country.
It’s ridiculous how people seem to forget or simply dont know the history between jews and arabs and the invention of the palestinian arab identity
I agree with you that it is weird and, contextually important given the statements of PLO leadership on the invention of the term (justification for extermination), the power of presenting as indigenous in modern thinking, etc. BUT I genuinely don't believe it changes the reality of for the existing people of Gaza and West Bank (most of whom have been born there and, for them, the term is real and having an ethno-nationalist identity is a powerful motivator). And I don't think denying that sense of identity builds a foundation for peace.
Identity or not. People lived in their homes. And these homes had been continuously inhabited for centuries.
That said, was this a just recipe for peace & stability in the region?
For the crime of
Party A, the Germans,
Party B, the non-native Jews
were given the majority of the land of Party C, the Palestinians,
by Party D, the UN.
Needless to say Party C was not happy with such an unnatural, unlawful and abnormal decision by a body proclaiming itself to be for peace, progress and humanity.
Needless to say Party A was content for Party B to go anywhere else.
Needless to say Party B had no shame in becoming the only artificially inseminated nation state birthed by force of rape upon Party C.
And Party D today continues to its track record of never bringing the world closer to peace, humanity and justice anywhere on earth.
Meanwhile, those who fund most of the bills of Party D, continue to profit off of the global situations of conflict that have ensued since WW II.
Debunk that.
#Fisrael
@@Bulldozered2003absolutely wrong, land was divided between jews and Arabs. You conviently forgot Jordan eh,? Jordan which covered most of area was given to Arabs and Israel to jews.
@@Elsa-kt2mn Wow, you mean the generous UN allowed the people of Jordan to keep their own land? Even that isn't true. They allowed a monarch to control it because the European powers believed it was the most advantageous form of government for the European interests.
The lesson here seems to be don't lose a war.
No the lesson here is control the money supply so that nations who invent stuff give you lots of weaponry.
The Israelis should have said to the palestinians, after the war "remember what you said about blood river and extermination?"
@@milessklare6006 Lmao. Israel was propped up by the USSR, France, UK and now America. Nothing about them has even been done on their own www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4737624,00.html
@@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 Except thats what Israel is actually doing, bulldozing homes and extending their lebensraum
@@aleks8063 yes, but do you think the palestinians would have let some Israelis to remain? No
Funny to see satan supporting the palestinian thou lmao
Excellent video, but important to note, since it can be misleading, on the point of Jews making up 10% of the population at the time. That might seem to some to imply that the muslim arabs made up the other 90%, but this was not the case. There were many different peoples living in the land at the time. To name a few other groups: Druz, Circassians, Christian Arabs, Baha'i, Bedouin,... Many of those groups stood with the Jewish people and are now citizens of Israel. Some of them even serve in the Israeli army (for instance the Circassians and the Druz are required to serve in the military).
Propaganda 😂😂😂
Only Palestine 🇵🇸 ❤️🍉🗿
Your post is even more misleading considering all the non-Jewish, non-Arab residents together made up less than 1% of the population. It's a non-argument.
@@duxd1452 Incorrect.
According to the 1922 census:
population 757, 182
Jews 83,794 ( about 11%)
Christians 73,024 ( about 10%) (this category is further split into groups such as Arab christians, German templers, Armenians, etc.) (It is worth noting that the German templers kept getting kicked out by the British, during World War 1 and 2, and then either slowly returning or not, so while their numbers here at this time were around 700, this is not necessarily an accurate size of their community).
7,028 Druze (about 1%)
and then yes, some of the other groups were each less than 1%, such as the Baha'is, Samaritans, Sikhs, etc.
Muslims 590, 890 (about 78%)
However, it is important to note that some groups, like the Circassians, were lumped into the Muslim group, because they are Muslim. But they are a separate non-arab ethnic group. When they arrived in the 1800s, they were around 4,700. Not sure how many they were at the time of this census. But they are just one example. What about other Muslim groups?
So you're statement that these groups made up less than 1% in total is false.
@@AhavaMath I was using the latest census. But even in 1922 Palestinian Muslims were about 78% of the population, Jews about 11% (puts the partition plan that gave more land to the Israelis than the Palestinians into perspective). That's already 89%. Then there's 10% Christians (totallng about 73k) that were also mostly Palestinians. That gets you at least around 95% Palestnians and Jews in 1922. Those 0.92% Druze and 2% Sikh played no real role and apart from the Druze and Sikh every minority comprised less than 0,1% of the population in 1922.
@@duxd1452 Again, your statements are skewed and incorrect. There are several problems here.
First, you jump to the 78% Muslims to mean “Palestinian” Muslims. The 78% includes non-Arab Muslim groups, such as the Circassians. You assume that just because they were Muslim, that they were Palestinian. There was an influx of Arab migrant workers at the time from other countries, such as Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and so on who were not from the area.
Second, you write “Palestinians and Jews,” but at that time, the people identifying themselves as Palestinians were the Jewish Palestinians, so it’s strange to write them as if they were separate. Nowadays the non-Israeli Arabs of the region refer to themselves as Palestinians, but at the time, they were simply Arabs. So it was Palestinian Jews and Arabs, and then of course, the non-Palestinian Jews, Christians, Arabs, etc. who were living there.
Third, “played no real role?” Played no real role at what? The German Templers for example modernized Haifa, the Circassians defended Jewish villages from attack, the Druz made peace with the Jewish forces, and even joined them. (They even serve in the IDF to this day). Not sure what you mean by “played no real role.” If you mean they were a small percent of the overall population, okay. But that doesn't mean they weren't a part of the society, and in the case of many of them, they had been there for hundreds of years.
It would be good for this to be updated to include the events from 2011 to 2023
would it really change things? you can clearly see who's been in the wrong for a century now...
It would certainly be nice to see a treatment of the work of the Trump administration which lead to the Abraham Accords and President Trump's relocation of the US's embassy to Jerusalem. President Trump's reputation as the United States most pro-Jewish president is well-deserved.
@@Mak095yet you don’t say who?
@@fireblizard8366He’s talking about the Arabs, you 🤡🤡🤡
@@Mak095 jews first travelled to jarusalem to settle in 1001BC
islam started 600AD
explain to me why it was nesccesary for the british to give land in israel to jews after ww2; since it's their homeland.
what happened in israel which made it so that the jews didn't occupy their home land?
we can clearly see jews trying to get back their land from these violent pedo worshippers for the last century!
Earlier muslims in the Holy Land admitted they came from the desert of Arabia.
Yes they did. 1400 years ago. How is that relevant to today?
Still been there longer than any European
@@Notreallyhereanymoremy God you people are so ignorant. 70% of the israeli jews are from arab and north african countries. the MENA jews in the 1900s faced mass expulsion from syria, iran, iraq, egypt, lebanon, algeria, yemen, etc hence majority of them migrated to israel because they had nowhere else to go. most israeli jews even LOOK exactly like arabs. put an arab and an israeli side by side and they will look related i PROMISE you. it’s very clear that you have no idea what israel is actually like or who their people are.
@@Notreallyhereanymore nope.
Italians and Greeks were transplanted there since the time Hadrian drove the Jews and Samaritans and Edomites out. They and the Aramaic and Armenian and Georgian and Phoenician people there then were the only non-Israeli inhabitants - the ones that all became Christians and from whom the muslims after muhammad's death first took the Holy Land.
@@duxd1452 arabs shouting palestine will be free for 70 years, while jews have been shouting it for 1000 years, there is your answer buddy
No one ever talk about ethnic cleansing in Muslim countries. Population of Christians and jews in Muslim countries reduce severely overtime. Meanwhile Palestine experience growing Muslim population since the 1940s.
Muslims are so caught up in their own victimhood.
Lebanon had 50% Christians, now it's a minority.
First: the decrease of Christian and jew population in Muslim countries due to :-
1. economic and stability reasons
2. In many of these countries unfortunately they don't follow their own religious laws that encourage justice for non- Muslims who live in a Muslim land, and the leaders use hate to fuel the general public against them ( the non- Muslim)to distract them from their own corruption.
Second: the Palestine region issue is not about ethnic cleansing; it's about two main things :-
1. The aqsa mosque that is located in Jureslim is the 3rd holiest place in earth in our belief so hearing an occupier that he will destroy the 3rd holiest site in your Believe what would you expect their reaction to be ???🤷♂️
2. The people of Palestine are our brothers and sisters in religion so when we hear and see them being treated like animals by the occupation force of Israel, you expect as to be silent????
Finally: this is the opinion of civilians in almost all Muslims in the world, and unfortunately the leaders in Muslim countries choose their own self interest and allow the suffering of the Palestinian to happen because most of them are dictators who are allowed to stay in power ( and not get heavily pressure by the west ) as long as they support the occupation force of Israel.
Note: the bias opinion against the Palestinian is clearly obvious through out the video by making them seems as they are the one who doesn't want peace while the jews are when in fact it's just that the Palestinian know that the jews of the occupation force of Israel are hypocrite cuz they appear ( to the international community) as if they want to give the Palestinian their rights but they shout in their own media and strongly believe that the land from the Mediterranean sea to the furat River in Iraq and south til the Nile river in Egypt is their land and they will establish the land of Israel on it. So what do you expect the Muslims will think and do while seeing this hypocracy. The occupation force of Israel is giving the Palestinian poison within honey by offering the two state deal so they can weaken them and making them dependent on them like what they are doing in Gaza they practically controlling every basic need of Palestinian.
And in fact they invaded Egypt before in attempt to control sinai area the suez canal but they backed out.
@@shl9322 do you support Hamas and Hezbollah?
@@shl9322the reason there is military occupation in Gaza and the West Bank is because of terror attacks from Palestinians Do you think Isreal wants to do this just because and those attacks came before there even was the military occupation if the Palestinians want to stop the blockades and check points what they need to do is very simple stop killing Jews even before this war someone was getting killed by terrorist attacks from Palestinians every week or so there even was a case of a 13 year old Palestinian kid who shot people and the reason people say that the al aqsa mosque needs to be destroyed is not to spite Muslims it’s because it’s purposely was built on the Temple Mount the holiest site of Judaism while Muslims already have their first and second holiest site why can’t the Jews have theirs and why are Muslims allowed to build a mosque on the Jews holiest site because by your prospective the fact that al aqsa is the 3 holiest site for Muslims is more important than the fact that the temple mount is the holiest place for the Jews
And in your comment you say that the video is propaganda when it’s just facts the Palestinians are the ones that denied the peel commission in 37 that gave them most of the land and many more offers after that you talk like the Palestinians owned the place and don’t owe the Jews anything when most of them that were called arbs at that time only came to Palestine under the British mandate only a small portion lived on the land for a long time with Jews so i don’t get your point because clearly both sides have legitimate reasons of why they wanted to stay or move to the land and also blaming the hate of Jews in Muslim countries on Isreal is not a good look because there were hate of arbs against Jews even way before the creation of Isreal but it’s so easy when you have a scapegoat isn’t it
@@shl9322 are you on cocaine
You remember that kid in school who would always talk a big game, start shit, get stomped every time, and continue to talk a big game while complaining about how he's treated _so_ unfairly?
I'm not saying it's relevant here or that it might apply to any group. I'm just throwing it out there.
Absolutely nailed it. God mode analogy
i'm not sure i'd accept a two-state solution if it was my country, why would i give even half my region's land to people i don't have any connection to at all? it was never palestinians' responsibility to accept it
@msruag but it was never "their" country. It was ruled by Turks for centuries.
I remember that kid! I think his name was Donald.... 😂
@@msruag since Jewish people were present in the same land throughout the entire history why should Arabs claim it is exclusively their own land? I’ve never heard or seen any so called “pro-palestinien” address that.
You will never be able to reason with Palestinians or Muslims.
You say the Earth goes around the Sun, Palestinians will say no it doesn't.
I pray there will be peace for the Jews and Israel one day!
Speak for yourself please
ahh praying to satan again are you, you witches should have been burned a long time ago 🔥 ;_)
The people who the people who say you can't reason with are talking about can't reason with them
+Ozy Mandias
Didn't quran or hadiths also say that the sun sets in murky water?
Ozy Mandias Qur’an 18:83-86-And they ask you about Dhul-Qarnain. Say: “I shall recite to you something of his story.” Verily, We established him in the earth, and We gave him the means of everything. So he followed a way. Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a peop
Sunan Abu Dawud 3991-Abu Dharr said: I was sitting behind the Apostle of Allah who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water.
Apparently, I liked this video 12 years ago because I don't remember it in 2023. Watched again for good measure!
Very pro-Israel slant to this video. It is gross.
@@picklethepirate momins are angry because Not pro islamic jihadi support in this Gold Video
@@picklethepirateyou just can’t handle the truth
@@DM-lt3zu he left out key information and cherry picked to fit pro Israeli agenda
@@picklethepirate The only reason you think facts are pro-Israel is because you hate Jews. This is really just good vs. evil to everyone else without bias.
A good explanation of a great deal of the historical diplomatic attempts at resolution of the issues. Unfortunately this skimmed over the circumstances and outcomes of both the 67 and 73 wars. This is something of a problematic omission and a new version of this video with further explication of these issues as well as the past 10 years would be really welcome. What is useful however, is the inclusion of the honest timeline of the real politics that led to the 47/48 crisis and subsequent refusal of any resolution. The establishment of Trans - Jordan and its implication in the now, 'refugee' status of Palestinian people, cannot be ignored but so often is - thanks for including it here. Equally, the fact of the Ottoman Empire and it's dissolution during and after WW1 is rarely discussed but quite essential to a broad understanding of this complex matter, again, nice job to include mention of this.
It was mostly a desolate wasteland at the begining of the 20th century/end of 19th century. Malaria was a big problem and decimated the first groups who tried to settle the land in the inhospitable regions. The Jewish settlers solved this problem and then many more people came.
That's trivial. Even david ben-gurion admitted that zionists started the conflict.
It's very simple
European jews wanted to colonize palestina.
According to zionist historian Benny Morris, zionists chose to accept the 1937 partition plan, so they could eventually takeover all of Palestine
The Palestinian state is called Transjordan! Free Kurdistan!
El John I have in Israel a Jewish Kurdistan guy he is my sister best friend he is really nice and good hearted person
Kurdistan will be free, Israel will be free from the stones and rockets of Palestinians
@@princessmenen9064 yeah a lot of Jews were displaced or migrated into Kurdish communities and adopted Kurdish culture. There’s over 100,000 of them that returned to Israel
"Regardless of negotiations with Israel State". Palestine has not negotiated, uk did.
I wouldn't negotiate with someone who kicked me out of my own home, besides the last time we talked (YasserArafat) he left me even less room to move in.
@@pieceofshpit8505 let me guess: youd rather use your children as meat shield and kill civilians for the sake of "justice"
@@pieceofshpit8505900 bce
Aaaaaand why was that you think.
it was never ur home ,it was british proerty u cunts@@pieceofshpit8505
Interesting how this is 12 years ago, being revisited today due to the conflict in 2023.
This is so biased. It doesn’t even mentions something as simple as The Haavara Agreement, negotiated by Zionist leaders, contributed to the Nazi regime's goal of expelling Jews from Germany by facilitating the transfer of Jewish capital and assets to Palestine. This agreement allowed Jews to emigrate from Germany while also benefiting the Nazi regime economically. The Zionist allowed the ‘cleansing of the German jewish population and dispossess them from their wealth (valued at 10-12 billion Reichsmarks which was more than Mefo bills' total size as of mid-1938) as much as possible.
In return, Zionists channeled a fraction of the liquidated German Jewish wealth to build the foundation of their "Jewish state" 15 years ahead of its time.
As is the systematic thumbing down. "Progressive" bots are busy.
@@NoToobForYouAnything but thumbing down!
The Palestinian leadership died not and does NOT want a two state solution, nor do they desire the creation of a government and society that prioritizes the humanity and rights of their own Palestinian kin. The Palestinian leadership has only been interested in their own power and wealth, while weaponizing Islam as a tool towards the same.
Please describe the 2-state in detail, and what it would entail, including the first attempt. You can't b/c if you read and understood context and history, it's obvious it was a convoluted ploy from the very beginning! You also leave out the expulsions happening BEFORE official creation of the state. Of course, it takes humility to actually look at facts, compare content, and understand a ppl. The Mad Professor summarizes the fictitious 2-state well (nobody has been able to refute what he says-I'm waiting for your refutation): th-cam.com/video/kDfFkNW-H9I/w-d-xo.html&t=
@@handsanitiser9832 Doesn't matter now, they voted in Hamas, who killed off all the opposition and they are now stuck with them and their terror.
Of course the Palestinians would prioritize their own rights after having been chased out of their homes or killed. 500 villiages distroyed, millions displaced. When the 2 state solution was brought in israel didn't stop the settlers taking palestinian homes and land just like they still do to this day and will continue to do so. crossing the boarders into surrounding countries and stealing their land also. until they have the old land shown as theirs in the bible. It's israel starting the wars so they can take the land.
I guess.... everyone here thinks it is just dandy, that if your homestead was forced into, and you must now accept this new group into your home "permanently". How many here will agree to that?
@@yihchiehseeto225 what did the Palestinians have after Ottomans occupation?
Well, I have stuck to a very neutral position on the current mess (condemning the Oct 7 stuff though). I just haven't had time to research all this history. Here it is in a nice concise package.
I mean I support the idea of a two state setup and kept wondering why it hadn't been done. Now I know.
How do you achieve peace with a partner whom only wants to destroy you? Neutral is easy but not always right.
This video is literally propaganda, lmao
By definition Gaza is a concentration camp. The media keeps using the term open air “prison”.
That is misleading, an open air prison implies some sort of due process, but Palestinians are BORN a crime.
18,000 people dead and counting, and we are still debating the reality of the situation. People find the fact that a genocide is occurring and no cares. You would have all supported k*king Jewish people if you were citizens of Nazi germany. You would rather the absence of tension rather than the presence of Justice. Do some more research, dig into this shit man. Watch the videos coming out Gaza, it’s horrific stuff. Let’s say all the things in this video is correct, does that justify a genocide in any way shape or form?
Ask yourself if maybe you have been manipulated in some way. Not by the Jews, but by the state department who finds it in their best interests to promote the state of Israel.
Joe Biden said best himself when he said it was in the naked self interest of the United States to support Israel and calling the best 3 billion dollar investment we make. United States never supports anything out of altruism. Geopolitical influence over the Middle East is what they cover, nothing else and nothing more. And Israel let’s them do that.
This isn't truth. It's horseshit.
@@ahwien who is the partner that only wants to destroy ? palestinian ?
Bear in mind that this video is clearly showing an anti-Palestinian view. There are plenty of anti-Zionist Jews, anti-Muslim Jews, and plenty of two-state supporting Palestinians muddying up the scenario. Don't stop researching.
Damn that guy can draw fast!
noticed that meself; & he's gifted as well with letters
Ever heard of fast forward? 😆
It's sped up footage.
@Razer Mantis You can tell the morons pretty easy lol
Damn that's a speed up video
also to be clear: a British mandate refers to a "system of administration" established by the League of Nations in the early 20th century to govern "non-self-governing territories". The mandate system was created as a compromise between Woodrow Wilson's ideal of self-determination and the European powers' "desire for gains for their empires".
RE: "British mandate refers to a "system of administration" established by the League of Nations"
Moving native people is ethnic cleansing which is a war crime. Solution=One State, giving Palestinians equal rights, including right of return.
@@mrteacher1315No
Let's be clear. A British Mandate is and always will be furnishment for civil war. British policy is and always was to foment civil war in any country that isn't their own, and are the globe's leading expert at creating apartheid states.
@@attemptedunkindness3632 True. Ditto India/Pakistan. But it's also the policy of US and Israel.
silly@@mrteacher1315
This should be taught in schools/colleges and univerities around the world. Maybe then we wouldn't have the young people of the world siding with terrorists.
The state of Israel was created by terrorists.
Even david ben-gurion admitted that zionists started the conflict.
It's very simple
European jews wanted to colonize palestina.
According to zionist historian Benny Morris, zionists chose to accept the 1937 partition plan, so they could eventually takeover all of Palestine
But young people are not siding with IOF?
@@sarminder4357 Palestine is the new BLM. Young people jumping on the band wagon because it's the fashionable thing to do. Anti- establishment, like your daughter dating a drug dealer, just to piss you off.
@@garyjordan4735The state of Israel was created by terrorists.
Even david ben-gurion admitted that zionists started the conflict.
It's very simple
European jews wanted to colonize palestina.
According to zionist historian Benny Morris, zionists chose to accept the 1937 partition plan, so they could eventually takeover all of Palestine
@@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 Israel was created by God almighty for his people the Jews/ Israelites.
Lets see how much history you really know...(ready? Here we go) When Rome destroyed the second Temple of the Lord, who was the country the Romans attacked?
A. Egypt
B. Israel
C. Germany
D. B, because it was Israel
The UN: There's five of them!
Israel: Then it is a fair fight.
*USA , israel will not exists nowadays if it were not the dogs of USA. Zionists have power throught the control of USA , not because Israel is strong.
@@shoky8622 israel had nuclear weapons before they were even friends with the americans, and no country holding nuclear weapon was ever destroyed, so nah
@@zohar9971 Zionist has power over USA since 1900 and after 1940 they have increase control over bancs , journalism and orher platforms, i dont know what are u talking about.
@@shoky8622 Me neither.
@@shoky8622 Israel is strong, they won their wars in history before even the USA supported them while the USSR supported the middle east from the start.
The question i have is who gave the league of nations the power to give away other peoples land?
@Soul Chicken Started drawing lines through their homes? seems like a reasonable response. think about this, the league of nations was formed two years after the Ottoman empire ended and ended two years before Israel was founded. Now tell me how can something that no longer Exists give away something that it does not hold? this video is so full of lies the ottoman empire did not get destroyed in ww1 it was destroyed by the Greeks 2 years after ww1. think about this and then consider your response to my question.
Rick god
Whos land? it never belonged to the modern day Arabs from Gaza and Judah/samaria. It was the British as well as many other modern day Arab countries By your logic not only Israel shouldn't exist, but neither Jordan Saudi Arabia UAE etc.You win the land you make the rules that's how the world works. Just go study some history
@@ezniyazov7970 You wanna tell me that Egypt & India & South Africa & all these Commonwealth countries belonged to the British & they could've given them to anyone? How about the US. Would it make sense for the UK to give away the US to another nationality so they can rule over the founding fathers? Also, based on various different sources, the British and French were divvying up the lands they were *going* to get once they overthrow the Ottoman empire in these places. So basically, they were divvying up land that they didn't yet have control over, and that never was theirs. My point is, the British should've never promised that land to the Jews, and probably not even to the Arabs coming from the Arab peninsula. There were people living there and they should've had the power to make that decision from the very beginning and they should've retained the right to rule the land.
It constituted the recognition of the international community.
Surrendering all of Israel would not end the violence
Muslims and their sympathizers attack Jews (and christians, hindu, etc) everywhere
If you'll be attacked no matter what, it's best to take a stand early while you have a defensible position.
So, in other words, all Muslims are bad people. Is that what you're saying?
There are plenty of Muslims in Southeast Asia, do they have as much conflict with Jewish people?
"Muslims attack other religion no matter what"
Meanwhile me and my homies in SEA: "We're chilling, tf u talking about attacking each other"
@@plang-plang5035 I think he's referring to the extremist
@@markpaulpangan7618 he didn't really say any extremist in there
This should be required reading for all students around the world.
Religion is taught as a science in parts of the USA. Required reading would rarely be honest texts, or texts that better humankind, regardless of the country.
Zionist brainwashing is present in all schools already dork
Only if balanced by the books of Prof. Shlomo Sands, Ilan Pappe, Whitlam ('The Invention of Ancient Israel' ) and Nur Musalha. Look them up,. All the best.
More hours spent trying to sort this out whereas Ukraine or Boko Haram no one spends this sort of time trying to fix
the ukrainian crimean conflict isnt even close to this lmao
Sad thing is
Only time can fix this
Only when Israel loses
Or Palestine be happy in it's part will this unrest be over
They refuse any and all offers
They expect us to give up our right to a country a right that we so despretly need
We need a country
We were the hot potato of the world until then going from country to country just trying to find someone who alaccepts us
We didn't
And as such we needed to create a place that not only accepts us but is for us
Not exclusively mind you
There are over 50 Arab states
But a Jewish state there is only one
And I hope that once it's all over people will understand that
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Because it doesn’t involve Jews.
They should settle things by a dance-off. 🎵Be my lover wanna be my lover, lover🎵
I laughed so fucking hard.
Both Arabs and Jews are pretty good dancers, this is going to be a tough battle.
@@komfykoala6083 it will be the party of the century.
I think most of palestinians are ignorant of these details. Thats y we always hear Israel being blamed for this current state
Share this video to family members and friends so that they can also know truth
Ah yes, the ignorance of people to fight back against the partitioning & colonization of their lands, literal smoothbrain take.
they experience the fact directly. You don't need a lot of education to know that many members of your family have died.
There's a video where a father is holding the limbs of his children in body bags
That's in Palestine.
Israel is a settler colony
@@bustavonnutz you seem to be allergic against paying attention
Unfortunately the narrator gets something wrong from the start - the Arabs who lived in Palestine pre-1948 (really, pre-1964) did not call themselves Palestinians. In fact, the dispised the term because it lumped them in with the Jews of the region.
Who cares?! People's identities, language, relgion, borders, etc. change all the time. Actually, the identified w/ being from regions-"the north", "Jerusalemite", etc. What you call a ppl doesn't negate ppl lived there. And yes, each region did have a distict accent, dress, food, etc. Palestinians always had an identity, whatever you called them. And btw the entire Muslim women was divided up w/ colonialism, including the Levant. There was no such thing as "Lebanese" outside of Mt. Lebonon, but w/ redrawn borders suddenlty ppl in Tripoli were "Lebanese." Verbal gymnastics doesn't change the fact ppl were always there.
This says much....
Palestinians were Jews. That is even worst
Oh boy can't wait to read some 8 years olds roasting each other through the internet
The Russians have a saying.
The future is certain. It is the past that is unpredictable.
absolutely brilliant
That must be why they’re so overly confident in their abilities
@@Swedester I believe you missed the point.
LOL. Why does it seem like every russian saying has the same formula?
They don't have such saying
There is one interesting omission in this video that is worth noting. In 1915-1916 there was the 'McMahon-Hussein Correspondence' in which the UK government indicated to the Arabs that they would be willing to recognise an Arab state in Palestine in return for their assistance in fighting against the Ottoman Empire (which happened in 1916 and is referred to as the 'Arab Revolt'). The Balfour Declaration came after this and the Arabs saw this, unsurprisingly, as a violation of the UK's prior commitment. In fact, it seems that the fallout from the broken commitment had a significant bearing on the following events and I suspect may be connected to the current unwillingness to compromise on the part of the Palestinians.
(Edited to remove the word _agreement_ so as to let the reader determine for themselves to what extent, if at all, there was one in reality or principal or if there was a _de facto_ equivalent)
The correspondence was not at all an agreement. It was a consideration. There's literally zero evidence that states otherwise.
@@insomniackiller1 While admittedly the nature of the correspondence has been debated over the years between the parties, it really has minimal importance to the issue so long as the Arabs were of the belief that it was an agreement. The fact that the Arab Revolt occurred following the correspondence does make it appear that they believed that it was an actual agreement. So regardless of how the British intended it, it may still be a relevant factor in the unwillingness of the Palestinians to compromise.
I have also amended my original post to remove the word agreement.
Thank you! So glad to see someone stating some of the facts that were omitted from this story. The history of this conflict is way more complex and everyone with an ounce of sense has to agree that clearly both sides have done wrong and both sides are a victim. This video makes it look way too one dimensional in favour of Israel.
@@sijmenvedder2566. It’s Israel’s land. The reality is in favor of Israel.
@@sijmenvedder2566it was an indirect colonization... The British send the jews to colonize Palestine for them... Let's not forget, when the Balfour declaration was made, it was clear that the number of jews only cosist of 10% of the population... Clearly, the intention from the beginning was to ignore the right of 90% palestinian and make it into a Jewish state... No wonder the palestinian rejected the 2 states solution... the best solution back then was to make a public referendum for establishing a new state as the British colonization ends... Let the 30% jews and 70% palestinians vote and decide... if they decided to make it into a Jewish state than so be it... Atleast the step taken was properly done... Malaysia for example, got their independence through proper process that includes the right of all party's... imagine if the 20% immigrants from china that the British brought into Malaysia for the mining industry claim half of Malaysia as theirs... And proposed a two state solution, Malaysia & Chinasia, i don't see any Malaysian would agree to the 2 state solution...
Just stumbled on this 13 years later. Very well done!
Name a famous Palestinian before 1900.
There are alot of poets,
But try to name an Israeli at that time 😂😂😂😂😂😂
you prompt your question using bad phrasing- the word Palestinian conveying one side argument and it is misleading and even misconception(lacking facts). if you refer to the resident of the area at or before 1900 you should include Palestinian Jews like Chaim Weizmann( scientist and biochemist who helped to develop ethanol fermentation and also served as the first president of Israel) or Eliezer ben Yehuda (any culture has its own "famous" in respect to the period they thrived) in my opinion, it is wrong to look at "fame" as an argument, because it is relative. Also i would like to know the poet you referred to.(i love reading poetry in any language from any culture-do you? ) @@andrew-parker928
@@andrew-parker928 A lot of _Ottoman_ poets.
@@dylandarnell3657 wdym?
@@andrew-parker928 Any poets who lived in the region pre-1900 were not Palestinians. They were (assuming you're talking post-1517) subjects of the Ottoman Empire.
This is one sided
It’s the correct, factual side. Although it does leave out some Zionist terrorism.
This topic is worthy of more serious discussion.
Seems to me the Palestinians don't want serious talks.
The Palestinians have more rights in Israel and the only country they can live in peace, but Hamas want to destroy it. Does this make any sense ?
Arabs in the west bank don't have the same rights as arabs in Israel proper
@@closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 because the west bank was in the middle of transitioning to a Palestine state until HAMAS.
Good job, you played yourself.
This should have millions of views, but the truth is never popular it seems
it does
The video is very clearly biased, your celebration of it shows your lack of interest in "the truth".
@@Skobeloff... If it's raining outside and one group says it's raining and the other group says it is not.... That is not bias... It is one group lying and the other telling the Truth!
@@sam-te1fu That has nothing to do with this dodgy channel.
@@Skobeloff... shut up this video was made 12 years ago it aint biased
Moral of the story:"don't start a war you can't win"...
@Jihad Express Israel started it because Egypt announced their plan to destroy Israel and blockaded Israel's ships
@Jihad Express what have you been smoking? I want that too. Are there seriously any sane people who think that the Arabs won the 1973 war? I mean by ANY objective criteria?
@Jihad Express you wrote : "god hates Israel that’s why America is collapsing and so israel will too"
Sounds like a desperate "argument" from a pathetic loser.
First, let's leave god out of it, shall we? There is zero proof of god hating anyone, even the Arabs , just you wishful thinking and judging by the results of the last 100 years, god is a zionist. Chew on that.
As for collapsing America, I can paraphrase Mark Twain, who said therumours of my death have been greatly exaggerated. Chew on that too.
As for "Israel will [collapse] too", your "prophetic" lot has been predicting Israel demise for how long? 70 plus years at least....YAWN...we've been waiting and waiting, while going from strength to strength, thriving and prospering, while your sorry lot has been sinking deeper and deeper into the abyss of your own creation. Enjoy your nakba with humus habibi, there will be many more to come unless you change your strategy.
@Jihad Express okay, so you are jihadi AND a nazi. No surprise here.
@Jihad Express you have a strange definition of victory, and not very consistent as it applied to either side. A victory in war by one side is achieving its strategic military objectives. For example, in WWII the allies had a strategic objectives of eradicating the nazi regime and destroying its military capabilities. Erasing Germany and German people from the map was never an objective. In 1948, the Arab states and local Arabs had the objectives of eradicating Israel, getting rid of the Jews and taking all of the land of Palestine to divide between themselves (no independent Palestine was planned). They lost of every count, other than capturing and retaining West Bank, half of Jerusalem and Gaza that Israel was either not interested in (Gaza especially) or had no means to capture and defend. Israel on the other hand had the objective avoiding being overrun and annihilated, and capturing some lands outside of the 1947 partition lines (particularly Jerusalem)m with a sizable Jewish community. Israel did NOT have an objective of capturing and destroying Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt, keeping their lands, eradicating their regimes and armies . Unlike the Arabs, Israel achieved its objectives, I'd say. So it's a win for Israel.
1967 was a resounding win for Israel. Like I said in earlier post, the Arabs states and the PLO did not achieve a single war objective. The same for 1973 war. Israel did not have an objective of the annihilation of Egypt, Jordan and Syria. The objective was to withstand the Arab aggression and to retain all or as much "buffer" territory captured in 1967 as possible. Although Egypt managed to cause IDF some hard time at Bar Lev, and to gain a foothold on the portion of eastern flank of Suez Canal (while losing a portion of the western flank), the overall outcome was a loss for the Arab side. If you think the Arabs won in 1973, you must believe Narnia is real.
1982 Lebanese war was a mixed bag, but I doubt it can be classified as a definite loss for Israel. The Israeli objective was to push PLO out of Egypt and degrade its capabilities: achieved mostly, and could have been more if the US didn't intervene to prevent the complete destruction of PLO in Lebanon and escort Arafat to Tunisia, but at least the PLO was out of Lebanon. It also had an objective to push jihadi Hizbullah from its northern borders and degrade its capabilities. This was also mostly achieved. Being an asymmetric warfare with a terrorist organization hiding among civilian population, nobody in Israel's establishment had illusion that it was extremely difficult to outright impossible to eradicate jihadi ideology, just to deal them a mighty blow and make them think twice about attacking Israel again. Israel COULD have destroyed both the PLO and Huzbullah, but tat would necessitate turning Lebanon into a parking lot (like Germany or Japan in 1945) with massive civilian casualties, and this was something Israel was not prepared to do. The problem that Israel had that it stayed for too long and got bogged down in southern Lebanon, inviting guerrilla attacks. That was a mistake, but its subsequent unilateral withdrawal hardly constitutes a defeat. Certainly far less than the US/coalition withdrawal from Afghanistan which brought the country back to square one more or less. Lebanon now is certainly not Lebanon in 1982 before Israeli invasion. But I think Israel should have pounded Lebanon (and especially Hizbullah, PLO and their allies and their infrastructure and personnel) more, resisted Reagan's attempt to save Arafat, and got out quickly leaving Lebanon smoking in ruins.
Which brings us to the current situation with Hamas and islamic Jihad in Gaza and Hizbullah (in Lebanon). IF Israel sets an objective of destroying these organizations (at least militarily and taking out their leadership completely), Israel can do that, with a relative ease. Militarily you cannot even compare the two. Ideologies would live on of course (just jihadi ideology lives on), but there would be few people to practice it, and even few to pose any serious military threat. But that would require turning Gaza ad south Lebanon into a parking lot with massive civilian Arab casualties, and possibly reoccupying Gaza and West Bank, and this is something Israel is not prepared to do, given that a threat from Hamas/islamic Jihad, and Hibullah is a relatively minor nuisance. Yes, it's unpleasant to run to the air raid shelter, and eve more unpleasant to have 1 dead Israeli for every 500 dead palestinians, but at this stage it's a conflict management. not a conflict resolution and Israel has a lot of experience.
In the meantime, Israel economy is booming, all Israelis including Israeli Arabs are getting wealthier, more arab countries are ditching the palestinian cause and anti-israel agenda, and the Palestinians especially in Gaza are sinking deeper into abyss of their own creation and finally starting to see who their real enemy is. Hint: not Israel. Btw, have you noticed that West Bank Palestinians including Mahmoud Abbas' PA is staying largely out of Hamas "fight" with Israel?
I like the drawing aspect of it. It's done really well.
Sadly the only aspect that was done well.
@@sams_under_ale What wasn't done well? Since you seem to be unbiased with the #FREEPALESTINE in the channel name and definitely haven't already conjured up your opinion and are now close-minded towards the other side, what wasn't to your satisfaction?
@@cripple9860 So, if I'm anti-murdering puppies, and I go "hey, I don't like puppy murder," would you go "wow, you're so close minded, you've clearly already conjured your opinion of puppy murder, what about this puppy murder apologetics wasn't to your satisfaction?"
This should be MANDATORY viewing for every incoming college student.
When you know this whole conflict has been contrived from the very beginning.
And then you study what's now Ukraine, about 800 years ago...
@@UniqueBreakfastTacoKyivan Rus in the North and Khazaria in the South and SouthEast?
when you know that khazarian jews conspired and started both world wars...exactly as they are doing now in both ukraine and Palestine.
@@UniqueBreakfastTaco each country 800years ago was a different story… that is why after a bloody WW2 a map was drawn. normal countries which were divided but still shared a long history looked for ways to build projects together, to bring cultures together, to erase borders in a way that allows people to live in peace while still maintaining the legal borders. While countries like Russia always was looking to make some more wars on its neighbours as if they don’t have enough space pretending they “save Russians” or “we are afraid of Nato” sh*t.
The role of the Europeans in the Israeli Palestine issue is never discussed. The British imperialists first offered the zionists land in Africa belonging to the Masai to set up their country and then offered them the land of Palestine in return for monetary help in capturing that land from the turks. They also promised independence to Arabs living there in return for their help fighting the turks (Lawrence of Arabia).
Evangelists believe that the second coming of Christ will happen when jews rule the biblical lands. (The muslims too are waiting for christ but in a different place.) The otherwise antisemitic europeans need to use the zionists for their own purposes of achieving the Rapture. The American evangelists have taken on the work of the Europeans now
Israel is the largest recipient of US taxpayer aid in the world. It is also the second largest supplier of arms to China. on top of the $3 Billion they get every year, this year they will get $14 Billion
Strange to hear you refer to the Arabs as Palestinian prior to 1965..... that's not what they called themselves until Egyptian born Yasser Arafat invented the ethnicity......
You cannot invent an ethnicity. Perhaps you are referring to the invention of the name Palestine...which dates back to the late Bronze Age. There are writings that date back to the 17th century in which Palestinians refer to Palestine. In Arabic, Palestinians referred to themselves as Palestinian Arabs before simply Palestinian.
@@appaatemomo-freePalestine better check again.... Arabs were not called Palestinian until Yasser Arafat came up with the idea in 1965 (under the direction of the Soviets). The land that is today Israel and Jordan was at one time called Palestine, but there were no Arab "Palestinians".
@@jaycristoval6155 This is simply incorrect, as I said in my earlier reply. Palestinians called themselves "Palestinian Arabs" before the sixties. The argument you are using is a common Zionist tactic to justify the colonization of Palestine. It is an extremely poor justification, even considering nothing can justify colonization.
@@jaycristoval6155 You're arguing with a troll who isn't arguing in good faith. I've tried, but the pseudo-intellectual cherry picks and ignores information that doesn't fit his narrative, and then tries to shame others by claiming they didn't answer his challenges.
@@lennardchurch8483 Hi again. I've asked time and time again and you've never been able to point to any specific information that I have ignored. I'm not trying to shame you. It's very important when discussing such an important matter that everyone is well-informed and coming to the table with a thorough understanding of Palestinian and Israeli history.
“There are no solutions. There are only trade-offs.”
- Thomas Sowell
One of my favorite DTS quotes. Tragically, the trade-off here seems to be:
A) The Arab Islamists settle for peace and recognize Israel's right to exist, or
B) Israel annihilates HAMAS, The PLO, the PA, and the "civilians" who support them, and unfortunately the civilians that the militants use as human shields.
The latter option will probably trigger an escalation by the surrounding Islamists and the countries that harbor them or that are controlled by them. Likely, Israel will handle their military business and a regional conflict might then escalate into a World War.
@@josephnewbern2717The people who push that narrative are making a lot of assumptions though. Although I wouldn't rule it out I don't think we're a hair trigger away from that outcome either .
@@josephnewbern2717Your knowledge about this is too shallow and your source of information is obviously not credible.
There has been no credible proof that Hamas is using its people as human shields. Bet you believe everything western media is saying because it's western.
If you want to understand the Israel sudden ethnic cleansing, you must know more
1. Cause of the Syrian war a few years ago.
2. Ukraine Russia War
3. Destruction of Nord Stream pipeline
4. Syrian China agreement
5. China Iran Russia new energy axis
6. Unexplored Gaza oil reserve
7. Israel pipeline proposal
All issues are connected and are authored by the American Government. It's all about 💵💵💵💵💰💰💰💰. Just like how America taught people Islamophobia so it can have the freedom to exploit middle eastern oil reserves. Victimized Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq. Made people believe that these Arabs defending their natural resources are terrorists.
This is no longer a state issue of Israel and Palestine but a pipeline war of China Iran Russia vs NATO.
"...there's no problems... only solutions." - John Lennon
@@remixandkaraoke
I would follow advice from economist before from rich dead singer.
13 years after the same mistakes continue.
The Israeli should adopt the Palestinian position amd not proceed with any peace deals again.
If they want to live in the land they must abide by Israeli laws or leave.
Enough of the unending wars.
The Jews can never leave the land.
There was no "land", all the land of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel, Turkey, parts of Greece, Egypt and more were part of One large empire. The Ottomans had nothing called Palestine for their 400 years of rule. The land was divided into 3 to 5 Sanjaks (provinces), none called Palestine.
The British illegally gave 77% of the Mandate of Palestine lands to the Arab Hashemites to become trans-Jordan, leaving only the 23% to become the future Jewish state!
It wasn't the Mandate of Palestine. It was the Mandate of Palestine and the Transjordan. The distinction between Palestine and what is now Jordan was recognized from the very beginning. So nothing was taken from mandate Palestine.
@@brucetucker4847 Nope!
@@shainazion4073 Fake news!
Nope the brits gave them that legally, they got the land they deserved.
@@brucetucker4847 source = trust me bro. his claims can be searched and confirmed. Yours, i somehow couldnt confirm. i wonder why
The fact that Palestinians cheered in the streets during 9/11 tells me everything I need to know about them.
Share this video in family members and friends and who support Palestine without knowing basic history ❤️
Yet you expect them to tolerate needless deaths of their own citizens many times the number who died in 9/11?
@@timothykooiman9236intention matters. Very few times have Christians or Jews attacked them to inflict casualties without just causes. Muslims on on the other , have slaughtered thousands of fakistinians
The US government used thermite to demolish the trade centers and then spread this propaganda to create the opinion you have now, congratulations you have been manipulated
Fake News by CNN War machine. The celebration Washington about Saddam attacking Israel with scuds 10 years before. The CNN relaunched the video in 9/11 to push world opiniões against arabs and again de-humanize palestinians
To note: this land was called OTTOMAN SYRIA under the ottoman empire.
Oh yeahhh the ones that took the nazi side in ww2 a few years later.
Doesnt matter how jihadi occupiers named it, its israel and judea
Under occupation. So what?
It was named Syria - Palestina first by Emperor Hadrian from the Roman Empire after he destroyed the settlement in Judea in 137 AD and kicked the rest of the Jews out of the area starting the first Jewish diaspora.
@@SocietalDefibrilation so when was the land not occupied?
when the egyptions had it? when the romans had it? when alexander the great had it?
there never was a county called palestine
Palastine never existed it was a name from the romans more of a provence
The term 'Palestinian' for the Arabs of former Mandate Palestine didn't exist until the 1960s, but otherwise, a fine summary.
Funny how you dispute that Palestinian people are real, but you’ll swear by the baby jesus that Israelis are real, even though that’s only a recent creation.
And no, these yiddish khazars are not “Israelites” lol
@@dwillbecancelledsoon4086he never said that.
And the Khazar hypothesis was been conclusively disproved by genetic testing and by history. It only ever thought to apply to Ashkenazi Jews from Europe.
There is barely a trace of Khazar blood in modern Jewry according to extensive genetic sampling and historically most of the Khazars converted to Islam after their empire failed and was overrun by Muslim invaders.
There are also Shephardic Jews from Iberia and Mizrahi Jews from Palestine, Yemeni Jews from Yemen, etc.
Ashkenazi Jew generally look markedly different from Mizrahi Jews, usually fair unlike their olive skinned Mizrahi cousins.
But despite this genetic testing shows that they actually have a small minority of European ancestors and most of their ancestors genetically are from the same population as the Mizrahi.
Consistent with all known historical accounts that they were expelled from Palestine that was Judea, that they were descended from the builders of or at least worshippers in the Second Temple and they migrated, and that they did accept converts but it in fact happened only infrequently.
@@dwillbecancelledsoon4086
The history of the Jews and Judaism in the Land of Israel begins in the 2nd millennium BCE, when Israelites emerged as an outgrowth of southern Canaanites,[1][2][3][4] During biblical times, a postulated United Kingdom of Israel existed but then split into two Israelite kingdoms occupying the highland zone: the Kingdom of Israel (Samaria) in the north, and the Kingdom of Judah in the south - From Wikipedia
With a pleasing savour I shall accept you when I take you out of the nations, and I shall gather you from the lands in which you were scattered, and I shall be hallowed through you before the eyes of the nations.
And you will know that I am the Lord when I bring you to the land of Israel, to the land that I lifted My hand to give to your forefathers. - Book of Ezekiel 20:41-42
Both bible and historical sources acknowledge the land of Israel and have done for thousands of years xD
This is a blatent lie or you're just too brainwashed to know the truth. The term Palestinian has existed since at least 1911.
This was a very good summary of the Israeli perspective on the conflict. However, that being said, the Palestinian thought process has been sorely neglected. Why did they refuse the offered partitions? No reason is stated. No intellectualism on the part of Palestinians is offered other than the annihilation of the Jews. There is no mention of settlements in this video and barely any mention whatsoever of Jerusalem. It is presented as if no harm has come to any Palestinians in any way through the course of the conflict, which is not true. Regardless of whether or not Palestine is completely to blame, their side of the story should at least be presented in a logical manner. Try to understand impartially their past reasoning as well as the Jewish perspective. Otherwise you are fueling the conflict.
Well stated.
"No intellectualism on the part of Palestinians is offered other than the annihilation of the Jews. " maybe there is not more then that?
David Solomon
I think that pretty much depends on whether you think the Red Sea actually parted at some point in the past.
Adding to your replies; Jerusalem was orignally Jewish. It was founded as Jewish. Israel was Jewish, thousands of years ago. Continuing on; Why do the palestinians refuse? Well, then they'd lose the MILLIONS fueling the support against Israel world-wide - And they'd be sitting back with a poor, 3rd world backyard country with no infrastructure, electricity supplies, oil or even fresh water. Their government would be weak then, and they'd revolt against themselves - Thus, it's in the best interest of the palestinian leaders to not agree to any terms before the world decides; "You know what, let's just wipe Israel out". Because that is truly the only thing they want. That's FACT. The arabs will NEVER approve of the Jews. As long there are Muslims, the Jews will be their targets - For the Qur'an itself glorifies killing Jews, Christians and non-believers in general - Unless they surrender / subjugate to Islam. Islam means Subjugation, after all - Not peace. Islam itself isn't a religion, btw - it's a political tool for just this purpose. Brings me back to people saying the Crusades was a massacre of arabs - While it was, in truth, a counter-attack to the conquest of 2/3 of christian lands in Europe, soon after Islam started spreading. Thus, the Crusades started to re-conquer the lost lands and give some bloody payback. It was totally called for, and the Crusades were 'justified', you could say. Yet everything done in the Crusade was not encouraged by the Bible itself, the crusaders were merely repaying with the same coin.
Please watch Norman Finkelstein on you tube. As he has a lot on knowledge in the Israeli and Palestinian
If this video strikes you as a very informed account of the region's history, I would encourage you to do some more reading yourself. The presentation of the data is, to my (admittedly limited) knowledge, very selective. Some important facts and questions that are left out, just off the top of my head:
1) Where did the Balfour declaration come from? How do you think the prospect of creating a European-backed Jewish state in their homeland would have appeared from the Arab point-of-view? In this context, you have to realize that after the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire, which had been ruling Arab peoples for more than 400 years, many Arabs were looking forward to the prospect of governing themselves. Thus, the Palestine mandate looked to Arabs like it spelled the further postponement of an autonomy they felt was long overdue.
2) Another thing not mentioned here is that the Jewish state, as it was proposed by the international community, contained within its borders many Arab settlements and significantly populated cities. Imagine you were a resident of one of those places. How would you react to hearing that it was going to be incorporated into a different nation-not to mention one centered around a religion and set of values that differed from your own so dramatically? Furthermore, the proposed boundaries of the Jewish state also contained the region's best, i.e., most fertile, land.
3) Also, while this video takes pains to point out how Palestinians responded violently to Jewish immigration and nationalism, it fails to mention the violence and outright terrorism carried out in the other direction. For example, look up Deir Yasin or the King David Hotel Bombing. Basically, once the Zionists knew the British were getting ready to pull out of Palestine, and because the international community had already given their imprimatur for the creation of Israel, Zionist paramilitary (such as the Irgun and the Lehi-literal terrorist organizations that were indispensable to the founding of Israel) groups did their best to scare the shit out of the local Arab populations. They were successful in getting large numbers of them to flee before the official war broke out in 1948. This preceding conflict is known as the 1946-1948 Civil War.
Thank you for presenting this important context. IMHO though some of your info is not well researched. The land designated originally by Peel commission and later by UN, corresponded to areas predominantly populated by Jews with very limited resettlement options for Arab population. Almost 40% of Jewish portion was desert. Furthermore, it also correlated with the map of the lands that were originally considered unusable due to malaria infested swamps. They only became fruitful after Zionists reclaimed them at a cost of great personal sacrifice. As to the Arab cities, the largest ethnic group in Jerusalem at the turn of the century were Jews. Lastly the Arab national aspirations were well realized in Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon and Syria. National aspirations are unrealized in the world by many greater peoples and are not a reason for genocidal war against another ethnic group in contravention of international mandate.
Yes, I would say based on your repeating PLA talking points, your knowledge is very much limited.
@@Kelnxdebunk it then instezd of claiming stuff without argument, it just shows how limited you are
@@Kelnx Which above-mentioned fact would you like to dispute? And what arguments do you have for it?
@@bengore1989 I think your research is much poorer.
- "corresponded to areas predominantly populated by Jews" - It is not true. The area given to the Jewish state had a slight Arab majority.
- "with very limited resettlement options for Arab population" - what the hell do you mean by that?
- "Almost 40% of Jewish portion was desert" - it is irrelevant and the Arab part was not better. The distribution of usable lands is only relevant, but only in case you think it was okay at all to create the settler colonial state by carving it out of the land.
- "originally considered unusable due to malaria infested swamps" - this is simply because the colonist Jews could only by these lands so they could only settle there in the first place. Nobody wanted to sell them the usable lands, of course, exactly because the land was NOT underpopulated. But in 1947 the partiton gave the Jews a lot of usable lands they never bought and settled.
- "only became fruitful after Zionists reclaimed them at a cost of great personal sacrifice" - nobody questioned their property as long as they did not want to carve their property from the land. But this was the actual goal of the Zionist movement from the very beginning. But property and soverenity are different things.
- "Arab cities, the largest ethnic group in Jerusalem at the turn of the century were Jews" - and most cities on the coast had had no Jewish majority. Still they were given to the Jewish state.
- "Arab national aspirations were well realized in Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon and Syria" - in what sense were "aspirations" of Arabs living in Palestine realised in Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon and Syria? 😀
- What "genocidal war" are you talking about in you last sentence? The one of the Zionists who have been cleansing Palestine for over a century to fulfill their "national aspirations" by agressively creating a Jewish majority and claiming they settled on a land with no people?!?
One of the most concise and clear explanations of the history.
A sane person changes his strategy if he fails.
Allah disagrees
Yet the Palestinian people are hated by the other Arab nation. Why!
Because arab governments are heavly racist to literally everyone including different types of arabd
Arabs, especially muslims barely tolerate one another.
This is dishonest and only proves you don't read. Look no further to who the Muslim Lebanese sided w/ during the Civil War. Or rallies for their rights. Or countless ppl in prisons b/they're demanding their governments help. Have you been to an embassy in DC during a protest? What are ppl saying? Have you taken a psychology class and learned what happens when a ppl are plundered? You're not aware of massacres and expulsions to establish the state? If you're an adult, why repeat points, instead of reading and understanding yourself?
Wow this video was made 12 years ago but feels like it was made recently.
Great work.
well then ask youself a big ?. why did all this seam just so 1 side. it almost he telling a story too you and not real tell how complicate the world is.
what happend in 1995 after oslo acordes. did the curent Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu back 1995 hold a rally after where post a fake poster of then leader(Yitzhak Rabin) off israel in nazi uniform when i was working on oslo acords(that again this guy skipe over) what happend after Benjamin Netanyahu gast up supporters. two weeks later a zinosted killed.
GG on falling for rightwing progade from president the half countery in protest beacuse he want destroy court in israel. just beacuse he courpt asshole that should step down. right know only reasoen why he is power he side the people that are even more extrem them him. even miltary in israel would let the guy benjamin has put in charge off securet in israel in army. pluss the guy that leader off setlemnts. sound more jews that try join nazi party back in 1940.
Great work of discluding whatever doesn't support your propaganda, like 2 nakbas
@@fuzulibostan1796 Wow, why you so negative? Who hurt you?
This video is 13 years old and speaks of 1.1 million people in Gaza. Now there're 2.5 million. Worst g3nocide ever.
Israel really needs to step it up.
*“Stop talking about annihilating Israel and instead turn your terror war into a struggle for human rights. Then you will have the American people eating out of your hand.”*
-General Giap, Yasser Arafat's N. Vietnamese advisor
+Noðhelm Blodheafodban If syphilis would become gonoreah it would be great progress.
+tonius saved please stop spreading hate and violence
maxfedor1 jews did not kill Jesus who was a Jew but Roman pagans killed Jesus !
+Ефим Шестик True. Crucifixion was a form of Roman capital function. And yes, we gentiles killed Jesus; see New Testament book, Mark 10: 33, 34.
+Bob Baker 1) gentiles is a curse word so your a fool if you call yourself a gentile 2) It were the "jews wo crucified christ" (if you believe that there was a real Jesus Christ) They even brag about it the talmud that they are proud of it and that he is boilig in human shit and calling Maria a whore etc. It even says it in the bible where the jews say: give us Barabas the murderer and let jesus be crusified (sorry I can't actually give the place in the bible where it is written)
Meir Kahane was right all along. I'm not even Jewish.
When people ask what harm religion does, just point to this region of the world.
What we have are people that hide behind Religion to cruelly Kill hundreds of Jews. This is not ALL Religions. Only ones that do this cause harm. We can clearly see where you are on this. The Jews deserve to exist and after repeated refusals by Palestine had enough, they have a right to defend their land, which would have been much smaller had Palestinians accepted earlier Treaties.
it's more of ethnic issue than religious. Netanyahu aint least bit religious but he's still their supreme leader
@@AksarallahIt's not about Religion. It's about Palestine, if they had accepted earlier "Treaties" would've had much more land. Whether he's Religious or not doesn't matter. The Jews have gone up against enemies that want to destroy them or eradicate them from wherever they go. This is nothing new. Israel does have a right to exist & defend themselves.
Excellent. Crisp, illustrated beautifully.
All the pro hamas bots coping in the comments 😂
Lol zionists aren't interested in the truth.
Even david ben-gurion admitted that zionists started the conflict.
It's very simple
European jews wanted to colonize palestina.
According to zionist historian Benny Morris, zionists chose to accept the 1937 partition plan, so they could eventually takeover all of Palestine
God bless Jews and Israel 🇮🇱
Lots of love and good wishes from India 🇮🇳
Dear @darchapo ...... I am in no position to commdent on your statement
all I want is lots of good things for all people of Israel .... and lots of love from me to them :-)
Paleswine
+cecil123 Pissrahel
taly bron hahahaha pissraeli zionazi :-)
taly bron tomorow you will see your father fighting in hitlers army you zionazi :-)
***** I'd do the same with the Paleswine flag but don't want to get AIDS.
***** How about a military probe instead? Or just be a man and do it with your hand.
Thanks for this information. I know that they have been fighting all of my 70+ years lifetime, but until the very angry Palestinian protestors on the streets of London recently I have not paid much attention to the full details. It seems that the followers of Islam cannot live with any other religion.
Even david ben-gurion admitted that zionists started the conflict.
It's very simple
European jews wanted to colonize palestina.
According to zionist historian Benny Morris, zionists chose to accept the 1937 partition plan, so they could eventually takeover all of Palestine.