Debunking the Palestine Lie
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Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas has launched an international campaign to achieve recognition by the United Nations for an independent Palestinian state. Abbas and his international supporters claim that only Israel (with the United States) stands in the way of this act of historical justice, which would finally bring about peace in the Middle East.
This video debunks the Palestinians' claim and shows that Abbas has been lying about the origins and history of the conflict. Palestinian leaders have rejected partition plans that would have given them much more land for their independent state than the Jews were offered for theirs. Rather than being the innocent victims of a "dispossession" at the hands of the Israelis, the Palestinians rejected reasonable compromises and instead pursued their aim of getting rid of the only Jewish state in the world.
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Cant believe that this video is from 13 years ago, and tons of people still simply refuse to study history.
😂 believe everything you hear
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Study it!? They wish to change it! 😂
This video is just jewish propaganda lol he leaves out that well the arabs rioted for beimg kicked out of their homes.
The jews threw 40s killed hundreds of civilans in Palestine threw terror attacks and bombings. Then up grading to mass murdering entire villages. All prior to the Israel arab wars. Israel wasnt attacked for no reason.. just months before the war the jews were massacred an entire village and displaced 10s of thousands of civilians.
Look up the massacre of deir yessin april 1948, the bombing of the king david hotel, officers club bombing, tel aviv bombing etc etc
As with all videos like this, it is a one-sided biased history. Some of us actually read instead of getting our information from TH-cam.
Imagine starting a war because you refused to have peace, and then get destroyed in the war, and then start complaining the other side were the evil ones.
last i checked, Israel started the six day war. and well:
“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” -Ben Gurion.
you come and take their land, and you expect them not to react?
It's surprising you're writing this bc it's not brought up as a point anymore: nobody brings up the "war" b/c that's been refuted. Look up what really happened in 1948. This alone should show you the Arabs in the area, if really wanted to fight, would've stepped in 1946-47, when word of the first massacres and expulsions were happening. At that time 200,000 Palestinians were expelled. Read abt it from different sources. In 1948, there was no "war" of combatants vs. combatants, and no historian now denies this. What really happened is the "Arabs" (what is that exactly? Sudanese speak Arabic and they are "black") weren't interested in fighting, ill-prepared (every history book, no matter the persuasion, says this), and rearraging themselves after colonialism. They were simply responding to the massacres happening in the villages next door! Village by village, the Haganah and Irgun plundered and massacred it's inhabitants. Heck, even mainstream Isreaelis will point this out, and so do historians. So your comment is not only inaccurate, it shows you deny what's really happening. Torture in prisons, raids in refugee camps, massacres, like the Flour Massacre last month (again, every news organization covered this-now undeniable).
@@handsanitiser9832 lol you copying and pasting the same comment over and over again… that’s hard cope
@@KrakenUmbra It's the same response, so why should I write a new comment? My comment stands: there was no real war initially, and expulsions and massacres were the means to expand and create the state. Looks like you're the one bothered and "coping" by commenting.
@@handsanitiser9832 because you are just screaming the same nonsense all these brain dead pro-Palestine protestors scream with no substance. Denying of an Arab allied attack is the biggest amount of copium someone has snorted. Keep living in that delusional world mate. There is a reason why “Palestine” is looking like a Walmart parking lot right now, and it’s called years of Karma.
Starting wars @ losing them doesn't make you the victiim
I've been recently informed that wars have to be "proportional" as well. An that if you're winning then you're done kind of monster.
This war started with the creation of the Zionist party. Truman was a greedy, and may he rot in hell for this, but he only supported the state of israel because he needed Jewish votes in the USA. Obviously, I have basic human morals, which means that I sympathize with the Jews for the disaster of the holocaust. But just because you suffered this does not mean that you can use Manifest Destiny to steal the land of an entire people. Unjust and disgusting. Personally, the Palestinians would have been fine if the Jews lived there peacefully, with healthy laws and a healthy amount of immigration done. But Britain had to go and dump them in Palestine, with illegal immigration, without consent, violating international law and ethics, signing the Balfour Declaration which also breaks international law, creating ILLEGAL settlements, and ignore all of this suffering until the times that we actually attempt to strike back from all the rape and burning and torture that the Zionists have subjected to us. But, you all act like the victims and label Islam, the only true religion, as a "religion of terrorists" for self defense. I agree that not all Jews are Zionists, which is why I have absolutely no hate for any of the Jews. Nor are we anti semitic, because THE ARAB COUNTRIES ARE SEMITIC COUNTRIES. It is unfair. Wrath and suffering upon the oppressors!
HAMAs which is less than 2% of Gazas population started the war. Palestinians as a group did not. Let me guess, you are some religious person feeling like they have to defend Israel’s slaughter of 10,000+ innocent women and children to make yourself feel better within your religion…
That's one of the best comments I've seen on this horrendous situation. It seems certain peoples/states are repeat offenders at it in the Middle East. Also, it's a shame more isnt' made of the fact that Hamas are not just another political party wanting their own state. They are religious extremists who want to turn the entire area back to some kind of medieval theocracy. The irony is how many in the liberal left support this ideology that hates liberal left values and wants to gain power precisely to exterminate those liberal values.
@@LizRealGirlBeauty 1948 and 1967 and 1973 wars was not proportional in favor of Israel. But with that, Israel winning them.
And the Grand Mufti of Palestine went to Nazi Germany and recruited 40,000 Balkan Muslims to fight against the allies and Hitler asked them to commit Jihad and the Gufti spoke Nazi propaganda until the end of the war!
...and now Israel is acting like Nazis, this will not be forgotten.
15,000 Palestinians fought against Nazi germany in ww2. Even if they fought for nazis, it doesn’t justify modern treatment
They’re acting like Nazis for defending themselves? 😂 Wow that’s delusional! So Oct7 didn’t happen?
@@lycan6432True but continually attacking Israel does.
@@christianackerman1642 You appear to have missed the 30,000 civilian murders, the forced starvation, and the very legitimate war crime charges. People like you are the reason why things like this happen.
I guess you can't have a 2-state solution when the Palestinians will only accept one state as the solution.
You hit the proverbial 'nail on the head' there my friend.
The Palestinians will tell you that they accepted the borders but the Zionists didn't, they will also tell you that the supposed offers by Israel weren't genuine offers & that Israel had no intention of complying with them if Palestine accepted them.
Never forget that USA's politics is controlled by Israel & USA will start any war Israel requests.
why should they accept having their state split in 2 for a second time in less than a century and that the territory was given away to the jews by Britain because Rothchild holds them by the balls?
@@TopDingoMan He absolutely didn't. Out of the seven parties in the present coalition four of them do not recognise the Palestians right to a state. Israel too does not accept a two state solution.
@@matematikniels Anyoune would get bored of continous refuses.
welp, this aged well.
The fact that Palestinians cheered in the streets during 9/11 tells me everything I need to know about them.
Share this video in family members and friends and who support Palestine without knowing basic history ❤️
Yet you expect them to tolerate needless deaths of their own citizens many times the number who died in 9/11?
@@timothykooiman9236intention matters. Very few times have Christians or Jews attacked them to inflict casualties without just causes. Muslims on on the other , have slaughtered thousands of fakistinians
The US government used thermite to demolish the trade centers and then spread this propaganda to create the opinion you have now, congratulations you have been manipulated
Imagine your surprise when you Google "9/11 Dancing Israelis"
the tik tok generation should watch more videos like this before they protest on university campus
Unfortunately, the tiktok generation doesn't have the attention span of more than 15 seconds, and they would deny the correct history anyway!
@@70sfan17 perhaps banning tiktok is good for the next generation
@@jojotang8339 I think we agree that tiktok is a propaganda tool for pushing one side of the narrative, for every pro Israel video, there's about 42 against Israel! And this is a foreign government which is pushing this anti American, anti West, anti Israel narrative.
What right did the British have, did Balfour have to make that declaration about a land far away from Britain? What right did the British have to open the border to European colonial settlers without consulting those that made up 90% of the population in Palestine?
@@gusespejo67 Do you examine every conflict, every piece of land the way you do with this region? There have been many wars, with the Muslims taking big swaths of land by force in the past ( not to mention their history of slavery) and you're not looking into that I'm sure. You can't keep going back all the time. And you can't keep starting wars and expect no consequences! What are you suggesting, that Israel should cease to exist? It ain't happening!
Firstly a disclaimer: Not a Jew, not an Arab, simply a Brit who studies Arabic at university and lived in Jordan (Amman) and Palestine (Ramallah) for a year. I lean more towards supporting Israel on the conflict (I refuse to use the term "pro-Israel" because it gives the impression that I side with Israel on all aspects, which would obviously be ludicrous), but ultimately see both sides as having good and bad within them.
While overall this video is correct in the information it provides (and is 7 years out-of-date), it does also leave out events and information (the Deir Yassin massacre of 107 Palestinian villagers, the controversy surrounding Plan Dalet, the exploitation of Ottoman home ownership laws etc) that would more correctly portray both sides of the conflict (although admittedly not every single facet can be shown without the video becoming hours long). It also jumps from the conclusion of the 1948 war to the Camp David accords of the early 2000s, completely ignoring many important things that happened in-between such as the 6 Day War and the start of the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, the Khartoum Resolution, Black September, the Munich Massacre, the Yom Kippur War, the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty, the Israeli invasion and occupation of southern Lebanon, the First Intifada, the Israel-Jordan Peace Treaty and the Oslo Accords. Post-2000 the video also ignores the construction of the West Bank barrier and checkpoints, the 2006 Lebanon War and the 2008 Operation Cast Lead.
As for the information provided, whilst (as previously stated) the information is generally accurate, there are some mistakes that I'll correct:
0:45 - There were no borders pre-1967. After the conclusion of the 1948 war, the Israelis and the Arabs agreed to armistice lines separating Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Egypt from Israel. The Arabs made it explicitly clear that these were simply ceasefire lines and didn't demarcate country boundaries, for the simple fact that it would unofficially be a recognition of Israel (which they refused to do).
1:46 - True, but while 10% were Jews, the majority of that 10% were recent refugees and immigrants from Europe making Aliyah.
3:28 (with reference to 2:31) - The Palestinian people didn't exist at this point as a national identity. Palestinian nationalism, the idea of the unique Palestinian people, arose as a response to Zionism and Israel and came to the forefront after the Arab defeat in the 6 Day War. At this point the now-Palestinians saw themselves simply as Arabs, no different from the other Levantines of Greater Syria, and pan-Arab nationalism and support of King Faisal was very much the default at the time (in fact his defeat and exile to Iraq after the 1920 Franco-Syrian War is one of the causes of the Nebi Musa Riots discussed from 3:22). It was mostly the collapse of the United Arab Republic in 1961; the humiliation of Abdel Nasser, the figurehead of pan-Arab nationalism, after his defeat in the 6 Day War; and the work of Yasser Arafat and his opposition to Zionism that led to the modern Palestinian national identity.
4:05 - Everything depicted here is true; however, it should also be noted that, along with 4 Arabs dying and 21 injured, sheiks of 82 Arab villages surrounding Jerusalem and Jaffa condemned the riots and attacks on Jews.
4:54 - Very true, there were many more riots and pogroms against the Jews, the worst probably being the massacres of 1929; however, as previously stated, this ignores Jewish attacks against the Arabs, the worst being of course the massacre at Deir Yassin.
5:49 - The Jews rejected the Peel Commission.
7:09 - Wrong order of events. After the declaration of the proposed UN Partition Plan in 1947, the Arabs started a civil war against the Jews which saw the beginnings of the Nakba. The other Arab states invaded in 1948 after the expiry of the British Mandate and the declaration of the State of Israel.
8:09 - The widely-accepted number of Palestinian refugees displaced in the Nakba is 700,000 or 80% of the population. 20%, or 150,000 Arabs, remained within Israel and became Israeli citizens (although under martial law until 1966). Specific cases to mention would be Haifa, where the Jews of the city pleaded with the Palestinians to stay and not flee as refugees; and the expulsions at Lydda and Ramle, where Palestinians were literally forced out of their homes at gunpoint under the threat of death.
8:14 - Not so much sent as they were already there due to fighting in the war, and they also occupied East Jerusalem. Worth mentioning as well that the Jordanians expelled every single Jew living within the Jewish Quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem and throughout the West Bank; denied all Jews, not just Israelis, any access to all holy sites within East Jerusalem and the West Bank (eg the Western Wall, the Temple Mount, Rachel's Tomb, the Cave of the Patriarchs etc - too many to mention really, the entire area is riddled with important historical Jewish sites) until their loss of the territory in 1967; destroyed synagogues, including blowing up the famous Hurva Synagogue in Jerusalem; desecrated ancient Jewish cemeteries; and looted and vandalised Jewish property.
8:40 - This is annoyingly misleading, painting the notion that the Palestinians reject peace agreements simply because they're against the very idea of peace with Israel. Just because the Palestinians disagree to the terms of a peace agreement doesn't mean they're anti-peace; similarly, just because Israel rejected the 2002 Arab Peace Initiative doesn't mean Israel is anti-peace, it just means they disagree with the terms of the agreement.
8:54 - Conflation of the Camp David Summit of 2000 and the Taba Negotiations of 2001. Yasser Arafat walked away from the Camp David Summit, true, but the terms of the agreement were nowhere near as favourable as the video says; instead, the terms the video talks about were part of the Taba Negotiations, which were ended by the Israeli PM Ehud Barak because of the upcoming Israeli elections - his successor, Ariel Sharon, never resumed the negotiations. This is still widely claimed to be the very closest they've ever got to a peace agreement, stating they were only mere weeks away from a final resolution.
9:16 - The Second Intifada began after Ariel Sharon visited the Temple Mount with an entourage of 100-odd Israeli riot police. Palestinians rioted against his visit, the Israelis cracked down of the riots, voilà Second Intifada.
10:06 - Skipped a bit. The Palestinians in the Gaza Strip then held the legislative elections in 2006. Hamas got the highest amount of votes, 44%, with Fatah getting the second highest at 41%. Hamas then took over the entire Gaza Strip, executing not only Fatah but all their political rivals, throwing them off buildings and driving them out to the West Bank; then they started the rocket launches against Israel, leading to the blockade in 2007.
10:12 - The Olmert Peace Plan is misrepresented here. The then-PM Ehud Olmert was convicted of corruption and bribery, indicted and sent to trial, stepping down as PM. This all happened just days after he summoned Abbas to the private meeting where he first brought up the proposed peace plan, saying that Abbas had to accept ASAP or it was off the table. At 10:43 there's a crucial mistake in that Abbas was forbidden from taking a map of the proposed agreement - Olmert refused to grant Abbas one after he asked. Abbas went back to his advisors and had to hand-draw the map from memory on a napkin, with his advisors rightly saying that agreeing to anything without proper perusal would be idiocy. Frankly the entire thing was dead in the water before it ever really began, it had no chance of happening.
Wow this became a very long post, but the video needed a few corrections. Everything else mentioned in the video is correct to the best of my knowledge.
Joseph David can you recommend a good and unbiased source to get a good overview of the conflict in an hour or so?
Thank you
Joseph David, Wow thank you!
@leumasdiderot You were the squatter. The ancestral lands were lost due to war and the lands were reclaimed with war. Squatting on the land afterward and then claiming its suddenly your ancestral land because you lived there most recently is hogwash. Crying that you lost is just as bad as ANY NAZI crying that Germany deserved better after the holocaust. Don't be a NAZI. Accept that you are not going to win any war against Israel and learn to live in peace. That means ACCEPTING a two state solution or one not at all. Their is no more winning to be had. There is simply peace.
Thank you!
Name a famous Palestinian before 1900.
There are alot of poets,
But try to name an Israeli at that time 😂😂😂😂😂😂
you prompt your question using bad phrasing- the word Palestinian conveying one side argument and it is misleading and even misconception(lacking facts). if you refer to the resident of the area at or before 1900 you should include Palestinian Jews like Chaim Weizmann( scientist and biochemist who helped to develop ethanol fermentation and also served as the first president of Israel) or Eliezer ben Yehuda (any culture has its own "famous" in respect to the period they thrived) in my opinion, it is wrong to look at "fame" as an argument, because it is relative. Also i would like to know the poet you referred to.(i love reading poetry in any language from any culture-do you? ) @@andrew-parker928
@@andrew-parker928 A lot of _Ottoman_ poets.
@@dylandarnell3657 wdym?
@@andrew-parker928 Any poets who lived in the region pre-1900 were not Palestinians. They were (assuming you're talking post-1517) subjects of the Ottoman Empire.
This should be required reading for all students around the world.
Religion is taught as a science in parts of the USA. Required reading would rarely be honest texts, or texts that better humankind, regardless of the country.
Well, I have stuck to a very neutral position on the current mess (condemning the Oct 7 stuff though). I just haven't had time to research all this history. Here it is in a nice concise package.
I mean I support the idea of a two state setup and kept wondering why it hadn't been done. Now I know.
How do you achieve peace with a partner whom only wants to destroy you? Neutral is easy but not always right.
This video is literally propaganda, lmao
By definition Gaza is a concentration camp. The media keeps using the term open air “prison”.
That is misleading, an open air prison implies some sort of due process, but Palestinians are BORN a crime.
18,000 people dead and counting, and we are still debating the reality of the situation. People find the fact that a genocide is occurring and no cares. You would have all supported k*king Jewish people if you were citizens of Nazi germany. You would rather the absence of tension rather than the presence of Justice. Do some more research, dig into this shit man. Watch the videos coming out Gaza, it’s horrific stuff. Let’s say all the things in this video is correct, does that justify a genocide in any way shape or form?
Ask yourself if maybe you have been manipulated in some way. Not by the Jews, but by the state department who finds it in their best interests to promote the state of Israel.
Joe Biden said best himself when he said it was in the naked self interest of the United States to support Israel and calling the best 3 billion dollar investment we make. United States never supports anything out of altruism. Geopolitical influence over the Middle East is what they cover, nothing else and nothing more. And Israel let’s them do that.
This isn't truth. It's horseshit.
@@ahwien who is the partner that only wants to destroy ? palestinian ?
Bear in mind that this video is clearly showing an anti-Palestinian view. There are plenty of anti-Zionist Jews, anti-Muslim Jews, and plenty of two-state supporting Palestinians muddying up the scenario. Don't stop researching.
A correction...It says "in April 1920 Palestinians poured into the old city"...but these Arabs refused to be called "Palestinians," in fact at the time and throughout the first half of the 20th century it was considered an insult to Arabs, like calling them "dirty Jews" since the Jews were the ones known as "Palestinians." They insisted on being called simply "Arabs." But yes, these are the people who perpetrated regular massacres of Jews in the 1920s and 1930s.
Why?
You mean they attacked people who came to their land as colonists?
@@BiharyGabor I am at a loss for words. What are you speaking about?
@@kennye6088 Well, I did not ask about the term "regular massacres" because I think you know the facts and your wording is a conscious choice disregarding them. I would call it misrepresenting but this is not my point for now.
My point is WHOM they attacked in the 1920s and 1930s. Those were the settlers having arrived recently, not the Palestinian Jews who had been living there for generations. In this case it was a fight over the land between the indigenous Arabs and the European (and American) colonisers. This had happened in several places all over the world.
The permanent rant about how the indigenus people was called is just distraction attempt, it has no relevance at all.
It's a pretty common Israeli propaganda tactic to try and deny Palestinians their individual culture so they can say the land was really "barren" apart from some "Arabs" that have no particular connection to the land and should just go live in some of the many "Arab countries". But this is misusing the fact that statehood as such is a modern Western idea that only arrived in this area when the conflict arose. As a result Jews developed an Israeli national identity where before there was only a religious and cultural/ethnic Jewish identity, and so did Palestinians. But it's clear the "Arabs" of Palestine had a strong connection to the land and a distinct cultural and linguistic identity tied to that long before. So when you hear this argument know that it is wrong and anachronistic, trying to apply current day norms to a period when they didn't exist in that area yet.
Every single time I try to research and understand the history of conflicts in this region, I just get more and more confused....
I can make it simple. The Palestinians will never ever be happy peaceful people. For centuries they've bred hate and evil. Enough is enough. Now the UN, who was created to solve the problem have all gone dark. Back in the day Nixon said "soon it will be time to get out of the UN and get the UN out of us".
@@kevin2028why do you think they want all or nothing?
@@kbrown5218they're evil because... they just are ok??
It's actually very simple. There was NEVER a country originally called "Palestine". Israel was renamed Palestine by the Romans after they conquered it. There was no such thing as a "Palestinian" until after the 6 Day War. "Palestinians" are Syrians & Egyptians living in Israel & were kept out of their country of origin after the Muslim's defeat by Israel. Israel is the Promised Land given to the Jews by God after their escape from Egyptian slavery. Muslims have been invading & conquering other countries since Mohamed founded the cult in the 7th century. Every muslim "holy site" is built on a place of importance to the people they conquered, just like they wanted to build a mosque at the World Trade Center after 9/11. Muslims, much like America's dumb-0-craps, have never been the party of peace. They openly preach to enslave or kill all the "infidels" meaning EVERYBODY who is not a practicing muslim.
@@kevin2028 I totally agree with you that they want all or nothing (at least the leadership does)! I was wondering why you think think that to be the case
Among the many ironies of the history is that since 1948, the Druze have almost always been supporters of Israel, including serving in the IDF. But it was the Druze who attacked Jews or led the attacks on Jews back in 1660 and in the 1800s.
Well, they understood they get better rights and a better quality of life under democratic rule than under an Islamic Caliphate or any Islamic non-democratic rule..
you can't remember what you ate for dinner and speaks about what happened in 1660 !
I was in Israel a few months ago and spoke to many Druze people in the North of Israel- as they put it, they love Israel and love living there. Many Druzey are in the army as well. They need Israel to remain and to be safe in order to have a safe place to live themselves. 💜
Overall really sweet people
This is because nations change and learn to get along with their neighbors. We're all waiting on the 'Palestinians'.
@@LA-cm9uo 1. Israel was created by taking land and self-determination from the Palestinians by conquest, expelling, and terrorism in the lead up to May 1948 (see Plan Dalet and the Jewish Irgun & Lehi, US declared terrorist groups who were key in the creation of Israel and who later became Likud).
Strange to hear you refer to the Arabs as Palestinian prior to 1965..... that's not what they called themselves until Egyptian born Yasser Arafat invented the ethnicity......
You cannot invent an ethnicity. Perhaps you are referring to the invention of the name Palestine...which dates back to the late Bronze Age. There are writings that date back to the 17th century in which Palestinians refer to Palestine. In Arabic, Palestinians referred to themselves as Palestinian Arabs before simply Palestinian.
@@appaatemomo-freePalestine better check again.... Arabs were not called Palestinian until Yasser Arafat came up with the idea in 1965 (under the direction of the Soviets). The land that is today Israel and Jordan was at one time called Palestine, but there were no Arab "Palestinians".
@@jaycristoval6155 This is simply incorrect, as I said in my earlier reply. Palestinians called themselves "Palestinian Arabs" before the sixties. The argument you are using is a common Zionist tactic to justify the colonization of Palestine. It is an extremely poor justification, even considering nothing can justify colonization.
@@jaycristoval6155 You're arguing with a troll who isn't arguing in good faith. I've tried, but the pseudo-intellectual cherry picks and ignores information that doesn't fit his narrative, and then tries to shame others by claiming they didn't answer his challenges.
@@lennardchurch8483 Hi again. I've asked time and time again and you've never been able to point to any specific information that I have ignored. I'm not trying to shame you. It's very important when discussing such an important matter that everyone is well-informed and coming to the table with a thorough understanding of Palestinian and Israeli history.
The best thing the Palestinians could do is get rid of Islamic Jihad and Hamas
you do know that IL also attacks christian,muslims,and jew pali's right....?
@@raghadradi8840 isn't it the job of smarter more rational muslims to correct their ideologically lost brothers. They don't correct the violent acts of terrorists but then call Israel a demonic state when it hits terrorists back. What hogwash lel
@hunter christensen "Actively target civilian with rocket" from what I see this is because of their capabilities, they do what they could to defend their homeland with whatever they had. On the other way, Let's see on the Israel side, they have advanced weaponry that can target precisely from far away. But, even with advance weapon why are there MANY of civillian casualties ? I do not believe that it is merely error or a collateral damage. Even more than the casualties from Israel side. Note here that I do not support what Hamas did to Israel civilian, but i do understand their limited way to fight for their freedom. They don't have many option to begin with.
@hunter christensen are you comparing the oppressed occupied with nazis?
Really?
You could compare the goyiem principal in jewdiesem to nazies which states that all non jews are lesser you could compare the use of israeli military power against civilians or their aparthide regime or occupation with nazis you could compare their act of sterilizing arab women and black women and ethnic cleansing to nazis but no you chose to comparethe ones defending themselves with nazis
And no matter evidence or facts stated to you, you chose to be on the oppressor side its amazing how israel turns people int puppets by their media control
@hunter christensenantisematism itself is an old lie lol
arabs are a sematic race so you can't rly come accuse us of being antisematic lol but what do you know
A 5 minute search on youtube or anyplatform will give you all evidence but you the one who refuses to be fair
And quite honestly we argue out of confidence
We don't want your support
Zionest heads like you are everywher and we will burn israel on our own cuz we have the right to defed ourselves
At least you know he isn't biased by recent events in this video lmao
No, people have been indulging in ahistoric hasbara for ages now
Yeah, but still this whole channel is biased on far right. It has videos against the Geneva Conventions, and says Environmentalism has n4z1 roots, like wtf is this
Yeah this channel would lick q annon boots.
No he's
@@EMAbreuLucas It's true, study history. Nature worship dates back throughout Germanic history and the Nazi ideology expanded upon it when they rose to power. Nazism was basically rooted in the idea that an elite enlightened class ought mold and manage society like a potter molds clay. In order to do this power must be centralised and the rule imposed forcefully over the people. This is EXACTLY what is occurring today with the "climate change" agenda. Whether it be Jacobin's (French reign of terror), Nazi's, Bolsheviks, Tito, or the CCP, they ALL use some "crisis" to justify to the population to centralise power and then that power is ALWAYS abused. There is nothing new under the sun.
That's been known a long time: "The Palestinian people do not exist. There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians, and Lebanese. We are part of one people, the Arab nation. Lo and behold, I have relatives with Palestinian, Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian citizenship. We are one people. It is only for political reasons that we carefully endorse our Palestinian identity. Indeed, it is of national interest for the Arabs to encourage the existence of the Palestinians in the face of Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity is only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new means to continue the struggle against Israel and for Arab unity." - Zuheir Mohsen, Palestinian leader of the Syria-controlled as-Sa'iqa faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO).
Well stated... Very obvious ...once mentioned... All the historical evidence leads to your correct assessment 😎👍
Excellent video, but important to note, since it can be misleading, on the point of Jews making up 10% of the population at the time. That might seem to some to imply that the muslim arabs made up the other 90%, but this was not the case. There were many different peoples living in the land at the time. To name a few other groups: Druz, Circassians, Christian Arabs, Baha'i, Bedouin,... Many of those groups stood with the Jewish people and are now citizens of Israel. Some of them even serve in the Israeli army (for instance the Circassians and the Druz are required to serve in the military).
No honey, we were alone, no one stood with us, our arms and minds stood with us, Druz, Christians, Muslims, all of them attacked us to not let us take our promised land back, we won and let part of them live with us
Propaganda 😂😂😂
Only Palestine 🇵🇸 ❤️🍉🗿
Your post is even more misleading considering all the non-Jewish, non-Arab residents together made up less than 1% of the population. It's a non-argument.
@@duxd1452 Incorrect.
According to the 1922 census:
population 757, 182
Jews 83,794 ( about 11%)
Christians 73,024 ( about 10%) (this category is further split into groups such as Arab christians, German templers, Armenians, etc.) (It is worth noting that the German templers kept getting kicked out by the British, during World War 1 and 2, and then either slowly returning or not, so while their numbers here at this time were around 700, this is not necessarily an accurate size of their community).
7,028 Druze (about 1%)
and then yes, some of the other groups were each less than 1%, such as the Baha'is, Samaritans, Sikhs, etc.
Muslims 590, 890 (about 78%)
However, it is important to note that some groups, like the Circassians, were lumped into the Muslim group, because they are Muslim. But they are a separate non-arab ethnic group. When they arrived in the 1800s, they were around 4,700. Not sure how many they were at the time of this census. But they are just one example. What about other Muslim groups?
So you're statement that these groups made up less than 1% in total is false.
@@AhavaMath I was using the latest census. But even in 1922 Palestinian Muslims were about 78% of the population, Jews about 11% (puts the partition plan that gave more land to the Israelis than the Palestinians into perspective). That's already 89%. Then there's 10% Christians (totallng about 73k) that were also mostly Palestinians. That gets you at least around 95% Palestnians and Jews in 1922. Those 0.92% Druze and 2% Sikh played no real role and apart from the Druze and Sikh every minority comprised less than 0,1% of the population in 1922.
No one ever talk about ethnic cleansing in Muslim countries. Population of Christians and jews in Muslim countries reduce severely overtime. Meanwhile Palestine experience growing Muslim population since the 1940s.
Muslims are so caught up in their own victimhood.
Lebanon had 50% Christians, now it's a minority.
First: the decrease of Christian and jew population in Muslim countries due to :-
1. economic and stability reasons
2. In many of these countries unfortunately they don't follow their own religious laws that encourage justice for non- Muslims who live in a Muslim land, and the leaders use hate to fuel the general public against them ( the non- Muslim)to distract them from their own corruption.
Second: the Palestine region issue is not about ethnic cleansing; it's about two main things :-
1. The aqsa mosque that is located in Jureslim is the 3rd holiest place in earth in our belief so hearing an occupier that he will destroy the 3rd holiest site in your Believe what would you expect their reaction to be ???🤷♂️
2. The people of Palestine are our brothers and sisters in religion so when we hear and see them being treated like animals by the occupation force of Israel, you expect as to be silent????
Finally: this is the opinion of civilians in almost all Muslims in the world, and unfortunately the leaders in Muslim countries choose their own self interest and allow the suffering of the Palestinian to happen because most of them are dictators who are allowed to stay in power ( and not get heavily pressure by the west ) as long as they support the occupation force of Israel.
Note: the bias opinion against the Palestinian is clearly obvious through out the video by making them seems as they are the one who doesn't want peace while the jews are when in fact it's just that the Palestinian know that the jews of the occupation force of Israel are hypocrite cuz they appear ( to the international community) as if they want to give the Palestinian their rights but they shout in their own media and strongly believe that the land from the Mediterranean sea to the furat River in Iraq and south til the Nile river in Egypt is their land and they will establish the land of Israel on it. So what do you expect the Muslims will think and do while seeing this hypocracy. The occupation force of Israel is giving the Palestinian poison within honey by offering the two state deal so they can weaken them and making them dependent on them like what they are doing in Gaza they practically controlling every basic need of Palestinian.
And in fact they invaded Egypt before in attempt to control sinai area the suez canal but they backed out.
@@shl9322 do you support Hamas and Hezbollah?
The fact that this was done 12 years ago, is amazing.
The fact that Israel slaughtered people there 3000 years ago? Even with tactics similar to those that financed Hamas back then.
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12 years old and still better than what MSM is spewing.
Not really when this has been going on for over a century.
Yeah like, 12 years ago? Crazy long, dude. Can't believe it, mind blown. What a prophet.
@@blackbeltjones2903 I am a prophet as well, in 12 years you will still be an ass
I think most of palestinians are ignorant of these details. Thats y we always hear Israel being blamed for this current state
Share this video to family members and friends so that they can also know truth
Ah yes, the ignorance of people to fight back against the partitioning & colonization of their lands, literal smoothbrain take.
they experience the fact directly. You don't need a lot of education to know that many members of your family have died.
There's a video where a father is holding the limbs of his children in body bags
That's in Palestine.
Israel is a settler colony
@@bustavonnutz you seem to be allergic against paying attention
This should have millions of views, but the truth is never popular it seems
it does
The video is very clearly biased, your celebration of it shows your lack of interest in "the truth".
This creator must be surprised that their 12yr old vid has become super relevant and goes viral after all this time. Never abandon hope.
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@@davidpolander5899 Well, at least we know it isn't a bot account. No one makes them that bad. :)
I think they said "There will always be warmongers, but the UK has been told [that] without an arms trade, there's no finance, so how....." I think that if they don't trade arms with whoever it is that "told" them, the UK will not receive any money from them and so the post's author is wondering how, but his post drops off, and so still it's a big "what?"@@davidpolander5899
Funny , there was no such thing as a Palestinian during the Ottoman Empire.
There was no such thing as a Jewish State either.
@@maskofsorrow Yeah there was.
There's literally an innumerable amount of jewish Hebrew artifacts scattered all over that land confirming ancient Israel.
They've long since found the burial sites of the Ancient Kings of Israel such as King Hezekiah who's burial site is open for the public to see, it's under Jerusalem.
You should touch up on history.
@@TexasIndependenceNow I'm well aware of that but do you know that it was originally the land of the Canaanites and there is just as many artifacts to prove that. Are you also aware that God gave O.T. Israel that land originally and after they murdered His Son the Messiah, that He took it off them! Just as Jesus predicted, the Temple and Jerusalem were destroyed in 70 AD and now the true Temple of God is the Church the Body of Christ which is made up of Jews and Gentiles. The Old Covenant is Finished, Kaput, No More!
Hebrews 8:13 clearly tells us so.
@@TexasIndependenceNow I am well aware of that. That is not the point. There are artifacts and archaeological sites of the Canaanites who preceded them in the land. The point is that the land was taken off the Jews forever when they murdered Gods Son on the Cross and this was finalized with the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD. This fulfilled the curses on Israel that were predicted in Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28.
@@maskofsorrow We mustn't forget that Christ is still the God of Israel and Jesus Almight God has not forsaken the Hebrews. The Bible explicitly states From the Old Testament to the New Testament that the sons of Jacob will of a surety inherit the Land of Canaan Forever that God promised to Abraham, to Issac, and to Jacob. The Bible makes it very clear that in the last days jews will accept Christ and Christ himself will save them at the end of the 7 year tribulation.
Love how a simple bit of research keeps showing me information just like this.
very information and enlightening!
Enlightening? Video is very obviously biased. Excludes the massacres of zionists against Palestinians. Look up Nakba
I don't think that many people in the 2020s were ready to see this video
A 1 sided victim narrative about zionists
This is why i get triggerd of people that choose sides without knowing any history. The fact that this shows just how important history and knowledge is
Like both Palestinian Jew and Arabs attempted to forge alliance with Nazis in 1940, but Hitler's genocide started since 1939, and yet Zionists claim it is Amin Husseini who manipulated their beloved Nazis to commit Holocaust.😂
The only side is the side of those losing their children by the thousands
@@zk2939 I agree with you, hoping that you are meaning the children of both nations and not Just once ❤
Watching one video doesn't mean you know the history bro. This video is obviously extremely biased btw
@@recoilAbshow would you counter argue any of these facts?
People will still be watching this video in a 100 years except the situation will be a little more confusing than now.
It's not confusing at all. Jews want to live next to an Arab state and they and the world keep trying to give the Palestinians land. But the Palestinians hate the Jews so much they would rather kill them then share anything.
In 100 years the one or other won’t exist anymore.
@@Morowinger except it's been going on for 75 years already...so nah...they'll being doing this still in a 1000 years.
@@ChadLucianoHopefully Islam will be exposed as the perpetual 7th century sham it is.
Hopefully in a hundred years we can visit the glass crater left by them destroying each other and look upon it and say, "here lies the crater that finally ended a battle between whose gawd was better that lasted 3000 years". Because they've not been fighting for merely 75 years...
Yet the Palestinian people are hated by the other Arab nation. Why!
A good explanation of a great deal of the historical diplomatic attempts at resolution of the issues. Unfortunately this skimmed over the circumstances and outcomes of both the 67 and 73 wars. This is something of a problematic omission and a new version of this video with further explication of these issues as well as the past 10 years would be really welcome. What is useful however, is the inclusion of the honest timeline of the real politics that led to the 47/48 crisis and subsequent refusal of any resolution. The establishment of Trans - Jordan and its implication in the now, 'refugee' status of Palestinian people, cannot be ignored but so often is - thanks for including it here. Equally, the fact of the Ottoman Empire and it's dissolution during and after WW1 is rarely discussed but quite essential to a broad understanding of this complex matter, again, nice job to include mention of this.
I remember when this style of video was sweeping through TH-cam. The good ol’ days
I miss it, honestly enjoyed the information this way.
@@9usuck0 clear and to the point 👌
@@hihi-xi1vi for me, it mimics the way I was in class. I doodled what my professors were talking about. My notes are random words with lots of drawings. Lol
@kimweimann4310 Well, mister wordy, if that isn't the kettle calling the pot black. I think your defense is downplaying the Arab side in an attempt to make their conflict seem more even. That's like saying native Americans and US soldiers both bloodied each other. Sure, they both had negative actors, but one side was openly encouraging it as a means of rejection and the other as a right to remain in place.
Oh sweet little boy, I was already a teenager before smartphones existed and we learnt in school about this new thing called 'youtube', didn't like it that much because I didn't know what interested me though but the first thing I've ever watched was something of ghost rider during IT class. 😂
You left out that only 'Palestinian' Refugee have their own UN Department (UNRWA) and that theirs is the only refugee status that is hereditary so that number of refugees grows instead of diminishes. No other group is treated this way. For all other groups only the initial displaced persons are considered refugees. Their descendants born elsewhere are not.
Not even the Kurds!
Obviously great grandchildren of refugees suffer as much as impoverished Yemeni children escaping war zones.
Everything about the Palestinian people is a lie ! They lie about the whole situation. Isreal has attmepted peace many time only to be met with rocket attavks and other violence, no counter negoiation just violence. They dont want peace they want evey Jew dead.
@@meekmeads They have to have this department at the UN. NOBODY WANTS THEM. Not one brother nation included. Lebanon once took them in, and they destroyed their nation for a 'thanks'. There's a good reason nobody; not one brother wants these people and never have.
@@meekmeads Let's ignore the Kurds because their oppressors are of the wrong faith/ethnicity :(
The Palestinian leadership died not and does NOT want a two state solution, nor do they desire the creation of a government and society that prioritizes the humanity and rights of their own Palestinian kin. The Palestinian leadership has only been interested in their own power and wealth, while weaponizing Islam as a tool towards the same.
Please describe the 2-state in detail, and what it would entail, including the first attempt. You can't b/c if you read and understood context and history, it's obvious it was a convoluted ploy from the very beginning! You also leave out the expulsions happening BEFORE official creation of the state. Of course, it takes humility to actually look at facts, compare content, and understand a ppl. The Mad Professor summarizes the fictitious 2-state well (nobody has been able to refute what he says-I'm waiting for your refutation): th-cam.com/video/kDfFkNW-H9I/w-d-xo.html&t=
Ive watched this many times....and posted in as a link in many threads....
Lots of good info here
Earlier muslims in the Holy Land admitted they came from the desert of Arabia.
Yes they did. 1400 years ago. How is that relevant to today?
Still been there longer than any European
@@Notreallyhereanymoremy God you people are so ignorant. 70% of the israeli jews are from arab and north african countries. the MENA jews in the 1900s faced mass expulsion from syria, iran, iraq, egypt, lebanon, algeria, yemen, etc hence majority of them migrated to israel because they had nowhere else to go. most israeli jews even LOOK exactly like arabs. put an arab and an israeli side by side and they will look related i PROMISE you. it’s very clear that you have no idea what israel is actually like or who their people are.
@@Notreallyhereanymore nope.
Italians and Greeks were transplanted there since the time Hadrian drove the Jews and Samaritans and Edomites out. They and the Aramaic and Armenian and Georgian and Phoenician people there then were the only non-Israeli inhabitants - the ones that all became Christians and from whom the muslims after muhammad's death first took the Holy Land.
@@duxd1452 arabs shouting palestine will be free for 70 years, while jews have been shouting it for 1000 years, there is your answer buddy
If you don't want to lose land, don't start a war.
Or maybe don't establish modern colonies on someone else's land in the first place.
@@peristanom like he stated, don't start a war.
@@JaneH3675, like I stated, don't establish modern colonies on someone else's land in the first place.
@@peristanom Israel is not a "colony".
@@RobertR3750, yes, and the American colonies were no longer colonies after 1776, but that didn't mean the ethnic cleansing of Native Americans stopped. Israelis from Europe and elsewhere are acting as brutal settler colonists.
If Jews have a right to displace Arabs after their ancestors' 2,000-year absence from Western Asia, do I have a right to displace, say, Tanzanians after my ancestors' 60,000-year absence from Eastern Africa? Of course not.
Jews have a right to live in their Holy Land, but that right must not be preferential or oppressive. It's a fact that Israel is illegally blockading Gaza and illegally occupying the West Bank and Eastern Jerusalem. That needs to stop immediately.
Unfortunately the narrator gets something wrong from the start - the Arabs who lived in Palestine pre-1948 (really, pre-1964) did not call themselves Palestinians. In fact, the dispised the term because it lumped them in with the Jews of the region.
Who cares?! People's identities, language, relgion, borders, etc. change all the time. Actually, the identified w/ being from regions-"the north", "Jerusalemite", etc. What you call a ppl doesn't negate ppl lived there. And yes, each region did have a distict accent, dress, food, etc. Palestinians always had an identity, whatever you called them. And btw the entire Muslim women was divided up w/ colonialism, including the Levant. There was no such thing as "Lebanese" outside of Mt. Lebonon, but w/ redrawn borders suddenlty ppl in Tripoli were "Lebanese." Verbal gymnastics doesn't change the fact ppl were always there.
The sky is black in Garza but it’s always sunny in Qatar
Sad that 12 years later there's actually even more people deluded about the truth. Especially the truths of history and it seems this particular conflict. More young dingbats than there ever used to be. Teaching the next gen is so important!!!
Yes, people think this was like a Palestinian nation that existed forever and they invited Jews persecuted in Europe and then the Jews turned on them and stole their land. When reality is there have always been Jews, Christians and Muslims there and they moved in and out. And large parts were empty . This video is good as a starter but there are also many other details like how as Jews begin to move their the economy would improve and Arabs would also start to move to those areas. And how Jews in other middle east/North African areas were kicked out .
@@J7pat7because it did exist, but with a different name, also the reason the economy got better was because of america jelping Israel and because before that these places have been getting invaded and because of world war, and the arabs moving there part was the arab Jews, though i do agree about muslims/christians/jews living together there
Never had any rights to the land from the beginning, they are just a colonizer plain and simple.
@@nassemthegreat9582 I find this an interesting point. As an Atheist from England It's not my chief concern but where would you say that a Jewish state should be, if not Israel? Or should Jews not exist or have their own country? I'm intrigued....
@@howardmonument6093 Ethnostates should not exist, period. Only white supremacists and Zionists agree with these ideas because they want to exclude people they don't like, both evil and fascist. If you support a Jewish ethnostate why not support a White ethnostate?
I am 17 years old girl with a learning disability. this is so hard for me to understand but I'm trying every day to be more informed......
I’d recommend trying to follow a few TH-camrs by the names of “apostate prophet, and ApologeticsRoadshow”. They usually do livestreams but they also have videos that clarify this stuff in a more digestible manner. AP is a ex Muslim and has done videos explaining Muslim culture and essentially why groups like Hamas even exist.
you'll get more disable if you learn from their perspective.
try another perspective.
the palestinians were arabs, native yudeans, and christians living happily ever after until these european self identify yudean came in boats.
I heavily recommend Rabbi Yaarkov Shapiro, Norman Finkelstein, George Galloway, Mohammed Hijab, and Bassem Youssef
@elij1130 Ah yes Mohammed Hijab the part time stripper.
@@begobolehsjwjangan2359this comment is lol
There was no "land", all the land of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel, Turkey, parts of Greece, Egypt and more were part of One large empire. The Ottomans had nothing called Palestine for their 400 years of rule. The land was divided into 3 to 5 Sanjaks (provinces), none called Palestine.
The British illegally gave 77% of the Mandate of Palestine lands to the Arab Hashemites to become trans-Jordan, leaving only the 23% to become the future Jewish state!
It wasn't the Mandate of Palestine. It was the Mandate of Palestine and the Transjordan. The distinction between Palestine and what is now Jordan was recognized from the very beginning. So nothing was taken from mandate Palestine.
@@brucetucker4847 Nope!
@@shainazion4073 Fake news!
Can we get a version of this video , or a similar video that includes the more recent history of the conflicts. This is extremely important to continue to update as the situation is on going , no?
I'd recommend getting up-to-date information from a different source. This one has already omitted quite a bit.
@@appaatemomo-freePalestinesays a Nazi lover
@@andrewevans4722 A list of everything wrong I found in this video, Part One, not exhaustive:
1) Omits any mention of the first Zionist Congress in 1987, and its conclusion to create a Jewish nation-state in Palestine with a Jewish majority, which would necessitate the removal of the native population.
2) Omits any mention of the Zionist settler colonists who came to Palestine before the end of WWI: around 65,000 to 75,000 Zionists settlers.
3) Calls pre-British Mandate Palestine “underdeveloped and underpopulated”. Palestine certainly was not underdeveloped. Much of Palestine was cultivated before the arrival of settler colonists. Palestinian Bedouins even used traditional farming techniques to cultivate parts of the Naqab Desert. In 1944 it was documented that, even after 62 years of Zionist settling, Palestinians’ cultivated land just in the Naqab desert was three times the amount of land that all settler Zionists in Palestine had cultivated. “Underpopulated” has no numerical or scientific definition, and its usage here serves merely as justification for settler colonialism.
4) Says Palestinians sorely lacked freedom of religion under Turkish rule-here referring to the Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman Empire was not as religiously intolerant as this video paints it as.
5) Saying Palestinians were “mired for more than two centuries in backwardness and grinding poverty”. ‘Backwardness’ is not quantifiable, and the video never makes it clear what is meant by this word. Here, ‘backwardness’ is reinforcing an image of Palestinians as poor, ignorant savages. This may seem extremely nitpicky, but it’s one of the first indicators of a general picture this video attempts to paint of the Palestinian people.
6) Assuming that because the Ottoman Empire did not recognize Palestinians as a specific people, that Palestinians did not recognize themselves as a specific people. Even before nationalism emerged in the region around the time of WWI, Palestinians had a sense of regional identity. This attempt to erase Palestinian identity is a common tactic of justifying settler colonialism.
7) Saying Jewish immigration had just begun after the Balfour Mandate. As I said earlier, Zionist settler colonists had begun arriving as early as 1888, and around 65,000 to 75,000 were living in Palestine by the end of the Ottoman Empire.
8) Framing Zionist settler colonialists simply as “Jewish migrants”.
9) Saying Palestinians demanded a stop to ‘Jewish immigration’ without any context. As this video ignores that Zionist settling had begun in the late 19th century, it ignores the fact that Palestinians welcomed early Zionists, which said Zionists wrote about themselves. It also ignores discriminatory practices by Zionist leaders, such as forming a segregated trade union or sanctioning Zionist settlers for working with Palestinians.
10) Writing and saying “we will push the Zionists into the sea or they will send us back into the desert” as if it were an actual quote. The assumption that Palestinians collectively wanted to murder all Zionists.
11) The framing of the 1920 Nebi Musa or Jerusalem riot. Saying “Arabs poured into the old city”, framing that as an attack, when in fact Palestinians were in Jerusalem for Nebi Musa, a Muslim festival. Saying the Palestinians “launched a Jihad” against the Jews. It was a riot. This is clear word choice to frame the riots as an all-out war.
12) Mentioning the death toll of six Jews from the riots, but failing to mention the death toll of four Palestinians. Furthermore, it was actually five Jews who died.
13) The assumption, again, that the Balfour Declaration had granted the right to Zionists to begin settling in Palestine, when they had begun of their own accord nearly thirty years before. Saying the Nebi Musa riots were the beginning of 90 years of trying to reverse the Balfour Declaration, as if that declaration alone were the reason for Zionist settler colonialism and Israel’s existence, and as if the reversal of it alone could destroy the Zionist state.
14) Attempting to subtly equate the Holocaust with violence against Zionists in Palestine.
15) Saying “the Arabs of Palestine waged an endless Jihad against their Jewish neighbors”. Firstly, Zionists were not Palestinians’ neighbors, they were in Palestine with the express intent of colonizing it for themselves. Secondly, framing Palestinian riots against Zionists as “an endless Jihad”. This statement not only frames rioting as war, it attempts to make the riots religious in nature when they were most often not. The Haycraft Report, the result of a British commission investigating anti-Zionist violence, concluded that Palestinians were rioting due to British discrimination against them in favor of Zionists, not due to antisemitism. The findings of the Shaw Commission in 1930 were that “The fundamental cause, without which in our opinion disturbances either would not have occurred or would have been little more than a local riot, is the Arab feeling of animosity and hostility towards the Jews consequent upon the disappointment of their political and national aspirations and fear for their economic future.”
16) Failing to ever consider a Palestinian point of view. Why might Palestinians reject partition plans? This video is not interested in this question.
17) Saying “severe limitations were placed on Jewish immigration” during the Holocaust without mention of where those limitations came from. Limitations came from the British, but by leaving this detail out, the video wants to suggest it was Palestinians’ doing.
18) Saying “Arab officials announced that any partition would be met with rivers of blood”. Is this a direct quote, or an expression used, once again, to paint Palestinians as violent people?
19) Discussing the 1947 Partition Plan, saying the land would be divided “nearly equally” while failing to mention that the actual majority of it, 56% would go to the Zionists, who made up only a third of Palestine’s population.
20) Completely omitting any mention of the Zionist state’s Plan Dalet and the Nakba. This is the most egregious omission. The Zionist state's Plan Dalet was developed beginning in 1944 and implemented in 1948. It was a plan to expand the borders of the Zionist state, expel the Palestinian residents of any villages that fell within those borders and resisted, and place non-resisting villages under military control. Ethnic cleansing of Palestinians began before the 1948 war and Nakba. An example of this is the massacre of Deir Yassin. Before the war started, about 300,000 Palestinians had already been expelled. That there is no mention made of these events is conscious disinformation and shows more extreme bias than anything previous.
21) Failing to mention the end of the British mandate and Israel’s declaration of statehood as inciting factors for the 1948 Arab-Israeli war.
22) Citing the controversial Azzam quote. Azzam actually said the quote in a 1947 interview in Egyptian newspaper Akhbar-el-Yom, in slightly different words, “Personally I hope the Jews do not force us into this war because it will be a war of elimination and it will be a dangerous massacre which history will record similarly to the Mongol massacre or the wars of the Crusades.”
23) Stating that Israel’s land expanded without saying how: by the murder of 15,000 Palestinians, the expulsion of over 700,000 more, which constituted about 80% of Palestinians; by the destruction of emptied villages, and the passing of the Absentee’s Property Law, which allowed any absentee person’s property (houses, land, money, etc.) to become property of the state of Israel.
24) Failing to mention that Israel’s ethnic cleansing of Palestinian villages continued into the 1950s.
Part Two:
25) Failing to state that Israel never allowed displaced Palestinians back to their homes, shooting at refugees who tried to cross the border.
26) Pointed declaration that Egypt and Jordan denied Palestinians civil rights while ignoring the Zionist ethnic cleansing of Palestine, theft of Palestinian land, and denial of right to return.
27) “It never occurred to the rulers of Jordan or Egypt to create a state for the homeless Palestinians” extreme bias in this statement, completely ignoring, again, Israel’s ethnic cleansing of said Palestinians and denial of their right to return. Also ignores the existence of the All-Palestine Protectorate, no matter how ineffectual it was.
28) Claiming that Arafat never protested occupation of Palestine by Egypt or Jordan. Arafat led the PLO against Jordan in the Jordanian Civil War of 1970. Referring to Jordan and Egypt’s annexation and occupation, respectively, as “occupation of their land by foreign rulers”, having never referred to the Zionist state in the same way.
29) Stating that Israel offered Palestinians more generous deals that Egypt or Jordan, while again ignoring the fact that all the rest of Palestine’s land was being controlled by Israel, not Egypt or Jordan.
30) Skipping over an incredible amount of history. The Suez Crisis; the Fedayeen movement; Israel’s attack on the village of As-Samu’ in the West Bank. Importantly, the 1967 war and the Naksa, when Isael seized the remaining Palestinian territory as well as some territory from Syria and Egypt and ethnically cleansed another 300,000 Palestinians as well as 100,000 Syrians from the Golan Heights. More history skipped over: the Allon colonization plan, the 1973 war between Israel and Egypt and the Camp David accords, Israeli oppression leading to the First Intifada, and the Oslo Accords.
31) Claiming that Yasser Arafat started the Second Intifada because of the 2000 Camp David Summit. The summit took place in July. The Second Intifada began at the end of September, and was an uprising begun by the Palestinian people, not Arafat. The summit was a factor, but the inciting incident was Ariel Sharon’s visit to Al-Asqa mosque, accompanied by hundreds of armed soldiers. Sharon had been defense minister during the Sabra and Shatila massacre and his visit with the troops was seen, for Palestinians, as a statement of Israel’s total control over their holy site.
32) Failing to state that the Second Intifada started as largely peaceful protests, boycotts, and acts of civil disobedience.
33) Failing to discuss Israel’s brutal crackdown on the protests, and this brutal response being an inciting factor to more violent acts of protest by Palestinians.
34) Failure to mention that Sharon’s rise to Prime Minister also escalated violence. Failure to mention at all that Sharon reoccupied all of Palestine that was under the Palestinian Authority. Failure to mention the construction of Israel’s segregation wall, and that these events cut Gaza and the West Bank off from each other.
35) Focus only on Palestinian attacks against Israelis, not Israeli attacks against Palestinians. Omission of the death toll: about 5,000 Palestinians and 1,000 Israelis.
36) Claiming that Israel pulled out of Gaza. Israel pulled troops out of Gaza, but maintained their occupation of Gaza that continues to this day. The UN, the International Red Cross, and Amnesty International all recognize this.
37) Framing of the supposed withdrawal from Gaza as a benevolent act. Dov Weisglas, top aide to Sharon, has explained, “The significance of the disengagement plan is the freezing of the peace process, and when you freeze that process, you prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state, and you prevent a discussion on the refugees, the borders and Jerusalem. Effectively, this whole package called the Palestinian state, with all that it entails, has been removed indefinitely from our agenda. And all this with authority and permission”.
38) Claiming Gazans burned down the greenhouses Israel left. Special Envoy for Gaza Disengagement James Wolfensohn wrote, “Some damage was done to the greenhouses,” as a result of looting, “but they came through mostly intact”. Looting was due to poor Gazans taking much-needed resources from the greenhouses. They were never burned down. The failure of the greenhouse project was due to Israeli restrictions on what Gazans were allowed to export.
39) Again, failure to consider Palestinian motivations in rejected two-state offers. What amounts to clear disinterest in considering a Palestinian point of view, to the point of omitting the most major crimes Israel has committed against the Palestinian people, and omitting the conditions that Gaza and the West Bank had been under from 2005 up until the year this video was made.
basically, it more of the same:
Arabs angry (you know like caveman) want to kill Jews, Arabs lose and cry to the world they are victims.
I like the quote by Dennis Prager I think,
" if paletiitans lay down their arms today there will be peace. If Isrealies lay down their arms today there will be a total inaliation of the Jews."
Yeah- peace...pieces of them all over....oh wait- that's already happening- especially the little Palestinian children. WAKE UP isn't there ENOUGH brainwashed idiots around.
Great quote
@@crogameri "Fuck Palestine and terrorists." th-cam.com/video/Y7YpwBtctbo/w-d-xo.html
@Judah P. Benjamin And russia
TheNationalistMapper Right, provide one verifiable source that supports the claim that Israel kill innocent people deliberately.
Why no mention of the killing of Yitzhak Rabin, the Israeli Prime Minister, in 1995, by Yigal Amir, an Israeli extremist? It bids to be one of history’s most effective political murders. Two years earlier, Rabin, setting aside a lifetime of enmity, appeared on the White House lawn with Yasser Arafat, to agree to a framework for limited Palestinian self-rule in the occupied territories including ceding most of the occupied territories back to the Palestinians; the next year, somewhat less painfully, he returned to the White House, with Jordan’s King Hussein, to officially end a forty-six-year state of war. Within months of Rabin’s death, Benjamin Netanyahu was the new Prime Minister and the prospects for a wider-ranging peace in the Middle East, which had seemed within Rabin’s grasp, were dead, too. Twenty eight years later, Netanyahu is into his sixth term, and the kind of peace that Rabin envisaged is more distant than ever.
Yes always Blame Israel as even though the Arabs have rejected every single move for peace.
Key word in your comment> "seemed."
So all of this is because of Netanyahu?!
The Palestinians have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Rabin's death meant nothing because Palestinians will never settle for a 2 state agreement. Did you not listen to the video?
@paulfildes5489 Great point! I remember the popularity of Rabin and the hope for peace in Israel before his assassination.
You remember that kid in school who would always talk a big game, start shit, get stomped every time, and continue to talk a big game while complaining about how he's treated _so_ unfairly?
I'm not saying it's relevant here or that it might apply to any group. I'm just throwing it out there.
I wish someone could tell this story using a graphical time line.
The fact that it's done 12 years ago and it's still telling the reality - and that the video is not the pretend-to-be-writing animations! So amazing
the drawings are a true mastery. Love this video and its truthfulness
It lyes, right in the beginning. Palestine was NOT underpopulated. It was inhabited at the beginning of the 20th century as densely as many French regions.
This lye is crucial because this is intended to be one of the main justifications of massive Jewish immigration and massive displacement of Palestinians.
Nice zionist propaganda. If you want to learn something about the history of Palestine and zionism , you should listen to the jews , Norman Finkelstein, Noam Chomsky, Miko Peled, Hajo Meyer, Rabbi Davod Weiss, Ilan Pappe, Gideon Levy etc.
@@BiharyGabor
Palestine got inhibitated by inmigrant Arabs, we know, like at least 1/4 came afterwards and ofc they lived in disperse area not in some community and unity or entitiy under some rule. That came work for the Brits and killed the Jews that bought the swamp.
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You will never be able to reason with Palestinians or Muslims.
You say the Earth goes around the Sun, Palestinians will say no it doesn't.
I pray there will be peace for the Jews and Israel one day!
Speak for yourself please
ahh praying to satan again are you, you witches should have been burned a long time ago 🔥 ;_)
The people who the people who say you can't reason with are talking about can't reason with them
+Ozy Mandias
Didn't quran or hadiths also say that the sun sets in murky water?
Ozy Mandias Qur’an 18:83-86-And they ask you about Dhul-Qarnain. Say: “I shall recite to you something of his story.” Verily, We established him in the earth, and We gave him the means of everything. So he followed a way. Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a peop
Sunan Abu Dawud 3991-Abu Dharr said: I was sitting behind the Apostle of Allah who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water.
But what about the Balfour Declaration....?
It has been reported tha Balfour and LLoyd George were alarmed at the thought of 1 million Jews from Eastern Europe heading for UK. 150,000 had arrived in the past couple of decades and it was considered better they go to Palestine.
@@trigger399ottomans took the wrong side in the great war. Winners draw the maps.
You forgot to mention the terrorist attack on the King David Hotel in 1947 by Irgun.
He forgot to write the most famous quote from an Israeli, Abba Eban, about the Palestinians: "They never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity"
Didn't he say that about Arafat?
@@lisasolo3133 ohhh no the Jew prophet said, "I DON'T CARE WHO IS IN POLITICA POWER AS LONG AS JEWS HAVE THE FINANCIAL POWER" and that has been their model since .... forever.
@@lisasolo3133 They didn't missed on 7 th of October .
If the Palestinian Legitimate Rapresentants counterpart (Israeli Governments) Never respected the many treaties they both signed (in front of some USA presidents, or in ONU Councils) : which opportunity they miss? The Israeli Governors were liars and scammers. But nobody cares, until frustration and rage explode.
@@jme104 "They didn't missed on the 7th of October"...the opportunity to die by the thousands or maybe tens of thousands ?
It seems to me that in our contemporary world lies have so much more power than the truth.
its not that lies hold power over truth its the power of "fwee wings" *AND* Lies
The narrative thrives upon lies and labels truths as heresies.
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
The age of information has quickly become the age of misinformation
This video is biased and probably lead you to one side.. i prefer the video from Crashcourse "conflict in israel and palestine" Which has more "neutral" content.. peace✌️
As expected, all the pro palestinian comments are empty sloganeering and bumper-sticker level cliches. Yawn.
Am Israel Chai!
Nope. This video glosses ever very important points. Look up what really happened in 1948. This alone should show you the Arabs in the area, if really wanted to fight, would've stepped in 1946-47, when word of the first massacres and expulsions were happening. At that time 200,000 Palestinians were expelled. Read abt it from different sources. In 1948, there was no "war" of combatants vs. combatants, and no historian now denies this. What really happened is the "Arabs" (what is that exactly? Sudanese speak Arabic and they are "black") weren't interested in fighting, ill-prepared (every history book, no matter the persuasion, says this), and rearraging themselves after colonialism. They were simply responding to the massacres happening in the villages next door! Village by village, the Haganah and Irgun plundered and massacred it's inhabitants. Heck, even mainstream Isreaelis will point this out, and so do historians. So your comment is not only inaccurate, it shows you deny what's really happening. Torture in prisons, raids in refugee camps, massacres, like the Flour Massacre last month (again, every news organization covered this-now undeniable).
@@handsanitiser9832 There was no "Flour Massacre". IDF was targeting hamas militants, not civilians. Some civilians got caught in the crossfire. It's sad, but it happens in war. No doubt hamas leaders would call everyone who died "martyrs" (hint: a martyr is someone who dies for religious beliefs.)
In 1948, Israel was attacked by 5 arab nations.
"The British Foreign Ministry and the CIA believed that the Arab states would finally win in case of war... Martin Van Creveld says that in terms of manpower, the sides were fairly evenly matched. In May, Egyptian generals told their government that the invasion would be "a parade without any risks" and Tel Aviv would be taken "in two weeks." Egypt, Iraq, and Syria all possessed air forces, Egypt and Syria had tanks, and all had some modern artillery. Initially, the Haganah had no heavy machine guns, artillery, armoured vehicles, anti-tank or anti-aircraft weapons, nor military aircraft or tanks. The four Arab armies that invaded on 15 May were far stronger than the Haganah formations they initially encountered." From Wikipedia
To deny that Israel was attacked by 5 arab nations in 1948 is total lunacy and historical revisionism. The Jews won, they took their historical land back and formed the modern country of Israel, and there is absolutely nothing Israel's enemies can do about it except lie constantly and blather the same hamas talking points.
@@Nigel.123 That's been refuted by every single news station, including CNN. If they're shooting at their own hostages and targeting arid convoys, they're not going to be trigger-happy and shoot and the "animal" Palestinians?! It's obvious they have a supremist, genocidal outlook, and it was that way from the very beginning! The very nature of the expulsions and their supremist attitude means they saw the Palestinians as below them, and to rid them of any way possible! How can you write this when Ben Gurion ordered villages to be bulldozed, the so-called command by Arab armies to leave has been proven to be false, and there are videos you can easily look up of Irgun soldiers bragging abt the massacres! This was in 1948! What about now?! The very nature of the massacres shows a hatred and supremacy permeating the society, and seen in the Gaza now, wherein they record themselves engaging in torture, urnating on corpses, laughing as they destroy, writing threatening grafitti, and, of course, blocking access to food while they enjoy desserts from settlers. You can look all of these up b/c they post it themselves. News agencies have also covered it. Does someone w/ this supremist mentality view the other party as worthy of land or life?! Again, your comment makes no sense if you consider context: it was all talk from the beginning. Heck, even Netenyahu said he'll fund groups to divert attention away from the topic. They never wanted a state-or people there in the first place .Here's a video of Irgun soldiers bragging abt the massacres, laughing and enjoying themselves (and no, it's not an isolated incident): th-cam.com/video/XjTxDYtNhno/w-d-xo.html
@@Nigel.123 That's been refuted by every single news station, including CNN. If they're shooting at their own hostages and targeting arid convoys, they're not going to be trigger-happy and shoot and the "animal" Palestinians?! It's obvious they have a supremist, genocidal outlook, and it was that way from the very beginning! The very nature of the expulsions and their supremist attitude means they saw the Palestinians as below them, and to rid them of any way possible! How can you write this when Ben Gurion ordered villages to be bulldozed, the so-called command by Arab armies to leave has been proven to be false, and there are videos you can easily look up of Irgun soldiers bragging abt the massacres! This was in 1948! What about now?! The very nature of the massacres shows a hatred and supremacy permeating the society, and seen in the Gaza now, wherein they record themselves engaging in torture, urnating on corpses, laughing as they destroy, writing threatening grafitti, and, of course, blocking access to food while they enjoy desserts from settlers. You can look all of these up b/c they post it themselves. News agencies have also covered it. Does someone w/ this supremist mentality view the other party as worthy of land or life?! Again, your comment makes no sense if you consider context: it was all talk from the beginning. Heck, even Netenyahu said he'll fund groups to divert attention away from the topic. They never wanted a state-or people there in the first place .Here's a video of Irgun soldiers bragging abt the massacres, laughing and enjoying themselves (and no, it's not an isolated incident): th-cam.com/video/XjTxDYtNhno/w-d-xo.html
That's been refuted by every single news station, including CNN. If they're shooting at their own hostages and targeting arid convoys, they're not going to be trigger-happy and shoot and the "animal" Palestinians?! It's obvious they have a supremist, genocidal outlook, and it was that way from the very beginning! The very nature of the expulsions and their supremist attitude means they saw the Palestinians as below them, and to rid them of any way possible! How can you write this when Ben Gurion ordered villages to be bulldozed, the so-called command by Arab armies to leave has been proven to be false, and there are videos you can easily look up of Irgun soldiers bragging abt the massacres! This was in 1948! What about now?! The very nature of the massacres shows a hatred and supremacy permeating the society, and seen in the Gaza now, wherein they record themselves engaging in torture, urnating on corpses, laughing as they destroy, writing threatening grafitti, and, of course, blocking access to food while they enjoy desserts from settlers. You can look all of these up b/c they post it themselves. News agencies have also covered it. Does someone w/ this supremist mentality view the other party as worthy of land or life?! Again, your comment makes no sense if you consider context: it was all talk from the beginning. Heck, even Netenyahu said he'll fund groups to divert attention away from the topic. They never wanted a state-or people there in the first place .Here's a video of Irgun soldiers bragging abt the massacres, laughing and enjoying themselves (and no, it's not an isolated incident): th-cam.com/video/XjTxDYtNhno/w-d-xo.html
@ephemeralcreek
6 months ago
"Every single time I try to research and understand the history of conflicts in this region, I just get more and more confused...."
You might be confused by propaganda but the history is very clear. Listen to the video...again?
That is a brave move to leave the comment section open.
He deletes everything that challenges what he presented, so no I wouldn't call it brave lmao
@@khaled_osman hm...
@@SGOV86 do yourself a favor and search for everything he said on wikipedia or elsewhere.
@@khaled_osman they all do that. Bunch of cowards. That scream anti Semitism if someone criticizes them or their apartheid country.
even if the jews gave em the lot they still wouldnt be happy
daddy's special boy needs to be hated to prove he's the special boy.
True, but neither would the Jews
@@oswaldbojangles5247I think your wrong there ,it's the palestinians that have been given so many deals but reject every one
When Israel moved out of Gaza, they left behind a lot of greenhouses where they used to grow food. The Palestinians destroyed everything and danced on the ruins…
@@johnnyboy1586 Israel doesn't need a good deal, it already owns the Western Hemisphere, Israel is just intended to be a headquarters/safe haven from where to keep the goyim lands under control and escape should nature take it's course on a national scale for the 110th time
The October 7 attacks have forced me to properly look into the history of modern day Israel and Palestine. And now I believe ignorance is the worst thing to have right now - especially on the Israel/Palestine issue. Its been a long history of issues. The more I learn, the more pessimistic I am of there ever being a two-state solution.
The history shows the very things that will forever complicate the situation. From the religious ideology underpinning decisions to the politics in the middle east.
And when you consider the relations between ancient Israel and the Phillistines (Palestinians)...longstanding peace is never going to happen.
I honestly believe this is a situation that's beyond the capabilities of man. God alone can cause change.
The Palestinians are not the descendants of the Phillistines but a conglomerate of people from Iraq, Saudi Arabia and surrounding areas. The Phillistines were almost entirely wiped out as a people and the remaining were absorbed into surrounding tribes. Some research will show this.
You are correct in stating that there is no possibility of a two state solution because of religion. It isn’t just Palestinians who hate Jews but all Muslims. We saw this during the 1991 Gulf War when Saddam Husain invaded Kuwait but when pressured by the coalition lead by the US, he launched middles at Israel even though they were not part of the fight. His thoughts were to get Israel into the fight so that the other Muslim nations would join him because of their hatred for the Jews.
@@marklumley619Thank you, came here to say just that.
Israel let them live in peace and harmony in their country. Practice their own religion freely. Look at every Arabic state today and you will see a pattern. Where there used to be Christians, Jews, Catholics, you name it, is now all but gone. Why? Bc you’re either with or against them. Such an ass backwards group of people and they want pity.
He is.
God sides with Israel, in the Bible he even promised to erase from under Heaven the enemies of Israel
The Jews angered the Arabs even more by creating a thriving, vital nation with first world status where even the Muslim citizens had a good life.
It would be nice to have an updated slide to include the more recent two presidents, and how the UN and others are behaving towards these groups today.
This one is a bit longer but covers more recent developments in the 2nd half- th-cam.com/video/7Jyc-LzXqk0/w-d-xo.html
Propaganda or not? For the ignorant, here is A must Y.Tube view: "Free Palestine? No thanks! (The Israeli perspective)" // Need reality? ...then go figure like I did.
Yeah he will be decietful in new update video as well just like he is in this one. Nakba massacres not mentioned, 2 states solution deal not explained how it favored zionists
@@davijchaudhry8924 Yes, please explain, how getting 20% of the land was so advantageous to the Jews.
Please explain, how after a lost war getting offered half was such a disadvantage to the Arabs.
Please explain, how, after 3 lost wars and getting 98% of their demands was such a disadvantage to Arafat that he had to leave the table.
Truth is, they did NOT care about the people, THEIR people.
And most of the crying hearts of the new generations know nothing of history that was not propagandized.
there is enough there. After pull out of Gaza nothing changed in principle, except of course October 7th
The Palestinian state is called Transjordan! Free Kurdistan!
El John I have in Israel a Jewish Kurdistan guy he is my sister best friend he is really nice and good hearted person
Kurdistan will be free, Israel will be free from the stones and rockets of Palestinians
@@princessmenen9064 yeah a lot of Jews were displaced or migrated into Kurdish communities and adopted Kurdish culture. There’s over 100,000 of them that returned to Israel
It isn't about a Palestinian state, isnt about two states, it's about the existence of the state of Israel. That should be clear to those who want to see. From 1299 to the fall of the Ottoman Empire after WW1, up to the beginning of the implementation of the Balfour Declaration, there wasn't a peep from the people in the province of Syria Palestine about independence or whatever. Once any inch of the region was no longer under Islamic control, rather under Jewish control, all hell was let loose.
87K thumbs up that understand Truth and 35 K thumbs down that don't accept Truth on this video
The lesson here seems to be don't lose a war.
No the lesson here is control the money supply so that nations who invent stuff give you lots of weaponry.
The Israelis should have said to the palestinians, after the war "remember what you said about blood river and extermination?"
@@milessklare6006 Lmao. Israel was propped up by the USSR, France, UK and now America. Nothing about them has even been done on their own www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4737624,00.html
@@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 Except thats what Israel is actually doing, bulldozing homes and extending their lebensraum
@@aleks8063 yes, but do you think the palestinians would have let some Israelis to remain? No
Funny to see satan supporting the palestinian thou lmao
12 years later, and this video is still extremely relevant. The "two state solution" is only talked about when Hamas or Hezbolla are on the brink of annihilation.
Hamas literally means Destruction or the act of causing devastation.
The ridiculous "palestine" narrative those people keep trying to push is a total Lie and it needs to stop, it's very sad that a terrorist organization called hamas (which literally means destruction) has fooled the world over and it's even more sad that the world has gone WHORING after barbary terrorists rather than a First World Civilized Country trying to protect itself and the World.
Arafat in 2000, Abbas in 2008
Could have had a state with 95% of their demands with East Jerusalem as their capital but they really didn’t want a Jewish state to exist
Hamas has publicly stated that they want to eliminate Israel. It’s part of their evil *_”From the River to the Sea"_* ideology. Israel wants a two-state solution, but Hamas will *ONLY* accept a Palestinian state if Israel is first pushed into the Mediterranean Sea.
You are joking? Hamas created and supported by Israel is far from being being annilated their membership grows with every atrocity committed by Israel the racist apartheid genocidal state
Arabs never had their say in all of this. It is 'we, the west, decide' and 'you, primitives, deal with it'.
How would you feel if your richer neighbours decided to install a foreign, hostile familly in your house?
Lastly, as soon as Hamas (created by Israel to destabilize Fatah) or Hizbollah are annihilated, others will take their places.
That's how the reality works.
Do you think there is a single American student who will watch this to the end and consider, even for a moment, that perhaps they might moderate their views in a minuscule way?
7:28 When I look up this quote by Abdul Rahman Hassan Azzam I am told he actually said this in 1947 and not 1948 and that it has been taken out of context and that sources citing the quote originally attributed it to the year 1947 but then moved it up to 1948. I know Wikipedia is not always accurate but perhaps the quote here is being taken out of context.
Sounds violent enough to me
“When experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
A much repeated platitude.
What Israel has been doing since before its establishment is predicated upon not remembering the past, and its people are indoctrinated not in remembering the past but in remembering a fictional past.
Judging from this comment section we’re doomed.
Thinking guy’s some kind of prophet, when reality is Israeli hasbara hasn’t changed. These are the same lies used today - just gotten more effective outside Israel.
They keep repeating the same actions and expect a different result each time . A famous Swiss physicist said it's a sign of insanity.
@@philip5940you have to be insane to do what those people have done
Brilliant! Short and deep.
It’s ridiculous how people seem to forget or simply dont know the history between jews and arabs and the invention of the palestinian arab identity
I agree with you that it is weird and, contextually important given the statements of PLO leadership on the invention of the term (justification for extermination), the power of presenting as indigenous in modern thinking, etc. BUT I genuinely don't believe it changes the reality of for the existing people of Gaza and West Bank (most of whom have been born there and, for them, the term is real and having an ethno-nationalist identity is a powerful motivator). And I don't think denying that sense of identity builds a foundation for peace.
Identity or not. People lived in their homes. And these homes had been continuously inhabited for centuries.
That said, was this a just recipe for peace & stability in the region?
For the crime of
Party A, the Germans,
Party B, the non-native Jews
were given the majority of the land of Party C, the Palestinians,
by Party D, the UN.
Needless to say Party C was not happy with such an unnatural, unlawful and abnormal decision by a body proclaiming itself to be for peace, progress and humanity.
Needless to say Party A was content for Party B to go anywhere else.
Needless to say Party B had no shame in becoming the only artificially inseminated nation state birthed by force of rape upon Party C.
And Party D today continues to its track record of never bringing the world closer to peace, humanity and justice anywhere on earth.
Meanwhile, those who fund most of the bills of Party D, continue to profit off of the global situations of conflict that have ensued since WW II.
Debunk that.
#Fisrael
@@Bulldozered2003absolutely wrong, land was divided between jews and Arabs. You conviently forgot Jordan eh,? Jordan which covered most of area was given to Arabs and Israel to jews.
@@Elsa-kt2mn Wow, you mean the generous UN allowed the people of Jordan to keep their own land? Even that isn't true. They allowed a monarch to control it because the European powers believed it was the most advantageous form of government for the European interests.
so everyone is fine accepting Jordan as mandated but not Israel and Palestine. makes sense 🙄
The best, easiest to digest, and most concise history of the subject I’ve ever seen. Should have included the part where Jews fought an anti British insurgency in the 40s. Juicy stuff. Bravo. I will use this video to better inform my family of this history as I often lose people venturing into all the nuances and relationships to other historical events which turns from a linear story into a spider web
Oh boy can't wait to read some 8 years olds roasting each other through the internet
Moral of the story:"don't start a war you can't win"...
@Jihad Express Israel started it because Egypt announced their plan to destroy Israel and blockaded Israel's ships
@Jihad Express what have you been smoking? I want that too. Are there seriously any sane people who think that the Arabs won the 1973 war? I mean by ANY objective criteria?
@Jihad Express you wrote : "god hates Israel that’s why America is collapsing and so israel will too"
Sounds like a desperate "argument" from a pathetic loser.
First, let's leave god out of it, shall we? There is zero proof of god hating anyone, even the Arabs , just you wishful thinking and judging by the results of the last 100 years, god is a zionist. Chew on that.
As for collapsing America, I can paraphrase Mark Twain, who said therumours of my death have been greatly exaggerated. Chew on that too.
As for "Israel will [collapse] too", your "prophetic" lot has been predicting Israel demise for how long? 70 plus years at least....YAWN...we've been waiting and waiting, while going from strength to strength, thriving and prospering, while your sorry lot has been sinking deeper and deeper into the abyss of your own creation. Enjoy your nakba with humus habibi, there will be many more to come unless you change your strategy.
@Jihad Express okay, so you are jihadi AND a nazi. No surprise here.
@Jihad Express you have a strange definition of victory, and not very consistent as it applied to either side. A victory in war by one side is achieving its strategic military objectives. For example, in WWII the allies had a strategic objectives of eradicating the nazi regime and destroying its military capabilities. Erasing Germany and German people from the map was never an objective. In 1948, the Arab states and local Arabs had the objectives of eradicating Israel, getting rid of the Jews and taking all of the land of Palestine to divide between themselves (no independent Palestine was planned). They lost of every count, other than capturing and retaining West Bank, half of Jerusalem and Gaza that Israel was either not interested in (Gaza especially) or had no means to capture and defend. Israel on the other hand had the objective avoiding being overrun and annihilated, and capturing some lands outside of the 1947 partition lines (particularly Jerusalem)m with a sizable Jewish community. Israel did NOT have an objective of capturing and destroying Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt, keeping their lands, eradicating their regimes and armies . Unlike the Arabs, Israel achieved its objectives, I'd say. So it's a win for Israel.
1967 was a resounding win for Israel. Like I said in earlier post, the Arabs states and the PLO did not achieve a single war objective. The same for 1973 war. Israel did not have an objective of the annihilation of Egypt, Jordan and Syria. The objective was to withstand the Arab aggression and to retain all or as much "buffer" territory captured in 1967 as possible. Although Egypt managed to cause IDF some hard time at Bar Lev, and to gain a foothold on the portion of eastern flank of Suez Canal (while losing a portion of the western flank), the overall outcome was a loss for the Arab side. If you think the Arabs won in 1973, you must believe Narnia is real.
1982 Lebanese war was a mixed bag, but I doubt it can be classified as a definite loss for Israel. The Israeli objective was to push PLO out of Egypt and degrade its capabilities: achieved mostly, and could have been more if the US didn't intervene to prevent the complete destruction of PLO in Lebanon and escort Arafat to Tunisia, but at least the PLO was out of Lebanon. It also had an objective to push jihadi Hizbullah from its northern borders and degrade its capabilities. This was also mostly achieved. Being an asymmetric warfare with a terrorist organization hiding among civilian population, nobody in Israel's establishment had illusion that it was extremely difficult to outright impossible to eradicate jihadi ideology, just to deal them a mighty blow and make them think twice about attacking Israel again. Israel COULD have destroyed both the PLO and Huzbullah, but tat would necessitate turning Lebanon into a parking lot (like Germany or Japan in 1945) with massive civilian casualties, and this was something Israel was not prepared to do. The problem that Israel had that it stayed for too long and got bogged down in southern Lebanon, inviting guerrilla attacks. That was a mistake, but its subsequent unilateral withdrawal hardly constitutes a defeat. Certainly far less than the US/coalition withdrawal from Afghanistan which brought the country back to square one more or less. Lebanon now is certainly not Lebanon in 1982 before Israeli invasion. But I think Israel should have pounded Lebanon (and especially Hizbullah, PLO and their allies and their infrastructure and personnel) more, resisted Reagan's attempt to save Arafat, and got out quickly leaving Lebanon smoking in ruins.
Which brings us to the current situation with Hamas and islamic Jihad in Gaza and Hizbullah (in Lebanon). IF Israel sets an objective of destroying these organizations (at least militarily and taking out their leadership completely), Israel can do that, with a relative ease. Militarily you cannot even compare the two. Ideologies would live on of course (just jihadi ideology lives on), but there would be few people to practice it, and even few to pose any serious military threat. But that would require turning Gaza ad south Lebanon into a parking lot with massive civilian Arab casualties, and possibly reoccupying Gaza and West Bank, and this is something Israel is not prepared to do, given that a threat from Hamas/islamic Jihad, and Hibullah is a relatively minor nuisance. Yes, it's unpleasant to run to the air raid shelter, and eve more unpleasant to have 1 dead Israeli for every 500 dead palestinians, but at this stage it's a conflict management. not a conflict resolution and Israel has a lot of experience.
In the meantime, Israel economy is booming, all Israelis including Israeli Arabs are getting wealthier, more arab countries are ditching the palestinian cause and anti-israel agenda, and the Palestinians especially in Gaza are sinking deeper into abyss of their own creation and finally starting to see who their real enemy is. Hint: not Israel. Btw, have you noticed that West Bank Palestinians including Mahmoud Abbas' PA is staying largely out of Hamas "fight" with Israel?
Broadcast all info like this on all the campuses..
Sure, so ppl can compare historical sources and see its inaccuracies. You know in your hearts of hearts what's happening is wrong. No innocent party engages in the severe torture, open massacres (the Flour Massacre two months ago when ppl were lining up for food and they start shooting), bragging abt mass graves, writing threatening grafitti, urinating on corpses-they record themselves doing it!! So b/c one group has a supremist onslaught, they should subjugate another group by any means possible?! By this logic, children "deserve" abuse b/c they can't defend themselves or fight back! No, you know what's happening is wroing. A little humility will take you far: students realize this and are siding w/ the clearly oppressed. You should, too!
Excellent. Crisp, illustrated beautifully.
Palestine is a name given by the Roman emperor Adrianus during the Roman occupation, to delegitemize the Israelites/Jews, and exiled them. The name comes from the Philistines - the sworn enemies of the Israelites during the Biblical era. They were actually Greeks, and have long disappeared since. In Hebrew its pronounced: "Plishtim", which means: invaders. Throughout history, there have been 3 Jewish States in that land, but NEVER a Palestinian State. The Arabs living there today are originally work labor that the Turks brought with them from Arabia during the Ottoman rule. By that time the land was a desert, with no habitats. Mark Twain wrote this in his 1869 novel Innocents Abroad. Everywhere you dig in Israel, you find ancient Hebrew/Jewish artifacts, but no Arab/Muslim. The cities Jericho, Hebron, Shkhem have no Arab names. Shkhem was renamed Neopolis by the Romans, but the Arabs can't pronounce the letters "P" and "E", so they call it "Nablus". Not even Palestine, which they pronounce: "Falesteen
The word Israel, is Phoenician for Saturn.
GERALD MCFARLIN, Red herring. The modern state of Israel should have been named Judea or Judah.
The lost ten tribes of Israel has Sunday as their religious rest day which is different from Judea/Judea's Saturday.
you simply do not know why they were exiled. Because of the Bar Kokhba revolt, which hundreds of thousands died in, and when they slaughtered non jews + christians, 500k+ dead isn't justification for an exile what is? It's been called palestine for like 1900 years, until the so called "victims" became the ultimate victors.
@@sonusayeed6907Show me any proof that it’s happening first along with proof that Fakestine isn’t doing it to Israelis conversely.
@@sonusayeed6907 Both are absolute bold faced lies. Israel has done some horrific crap against the Palestinians at times, but almost always, except for rogue parties, this has been done in retaliation for attacks.
All of your hashtags mean nothing. Now a large part of the Arab world is finally getting around to normalizing relations with Israel and Jordan is even allowing the US to base planes in Jordan to help Israel retaliate against Hamas.
I feel bad for the innocents in Palestine, but their government has ruined them. Not Israel.
The question i have is who gave the league of nations the power to give away other peoples land?
@Soul Chicken Started drawing lines through their homes? seems like a reasonable response. think about this, the league of nations was formed two years after the Ottoman empire ended and ended two years before Israel was founded. Now tell me how can something that no longer Exists give away something that it does not hold? this video is so full of lies the ottoman empire did not get destroyed in ww1 it was destroyed by the Greeks 2 years after ww1. think about this and then consider your response to my question.
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Whos land? it never belonged to the modern day Arabs from Gaza and Judah/samaria. It was the British as well as many other modern day Arab countries By your logic not only Israel shouldn't exist, but neither Jordan Saudi Arabia UAE etc.You win the land you make the rules that's how the world works. Just go study some history
@@ezniyazov7970 You wanna tell me that Egypt & India & South Africa & all these Commonwealth countries belonged to the British & they could've given them to anyone? How about the US. Would it make sense for the UK to give away the US to another nationality so they can rule over the founding fathers? Also, based on various different sources, the British and French were divvying up the lands they were *going* to get once they overthrow the Ottoman empire in these places. So basically, they were divvying up land that they didn't yet have control over, and that never was theirs. My point is, the British should've never promised that land to the Jews, and probably not even to the Arabs coming from the Arab peninsula. There were people living there and they should've had the power to make that decision from the very beginning and they should've retained the right to rule the land.
It constituted the recognition of the international community.
People of the Netherlands never called themselves "Netherlander"/ Dutch. Their identity was always Protestant, Catholic, etc. That does not mean civilians are not bound to the village, ground, identity, community etc.
The Netherlands was in history part of the Holy Roman Empire.
Suppose someone says: Move away, you are not Netherlander, you are part of the Holy Roman Empire. Move away somewhere to Germany.
One of the sad ironies of the history (there are many) is that the Jews already in Palestine, the Old Yishuv, opposed Zionism and the establishment of a Jewish State on religious grounds as well as the fact they got along well with the Arabs. But out of anger and fear that Jews in general wanted to take over the land to create a Jewish state, the Arabs attacked the anti-Zionist Jewish communities.
@@comawhite1155 I'm using Palestine to refer1) to the historic area, not a country and 2) to the British Palestine Mandate which was the occupying govt of the area from 1919 to 1948. The Palestine Mandate was the area that is now Israel, including the W Bank & Gaza.
@@comawhite1155 Just to clarify, before the 2 state solution (the UN Partition Plan) was proposed, the area was the British Palestine Mandate, after the British took it over from Ottoman control with the help of the Arabs.
@@comawhite1155 The area of Jordan was called TransJordan, was not Palestine, like the video here suggests, but was governed separately by the British under the auspices of the Palestine Mandate.
@@comawhite1155 The Arabs did not launch a surprise attack on Israel at its birth. First, the future Israel had been on the offensive, conquering areas the UN designated to be part of the Arab Palestinian state, like Jaffa, Acre, Ber Sheeba, etc as part of Plan Dalet. Ben Gurion and the other Jewish groups did not accept partition and tried to take as much of the area as possible over before independence and full British withdrawal.
@@comawhite1155 The attack was not a surprise at all at that point. Golda Meir made a secret trip to Jordan to try to Jordan to stick to their previous agreement to recognize Israel. The King of Jordan told Golda Meir that after Israel's attacks & massacres such as at Deir Yassin, he now had no choice to attack. Israel was well prepared for the attack and previous offensives, having gotten huge supplies of weapons from Stalin through Czechoslovakia, including fighter planes and a bomber. There's a lot of the history most people don't know. They just know the myths, the legends.
Would be nice to have an updated video with every US president’s slant since this video.
This video is a lie. It’s one man’s bias supported by cherry picked data.
BEn Shapiro does that but not sure if it's accruate given he is a pro-IS
Why is that!
I heard hezbollah has fiberoptic cable? Why don’t they just stop the mass schitzobait disinformation campaigns the only tactics their enemies use the only tactic the cultic leadership in the area allows but they don’t like realize everything they believe is an oriental delusion or something or those in power just don’t care enough to destabilize the lie in their own mental and then in their environment?
@@dwightchaos9449 Thats not a question want to try again!
More hours spent trying to sort this out whereas Ukraine or Boko Haram no one spends this sort of time trying to fix
the ukrainian crimean conflict isnt even close to this lmao
Sad thing is
Only time can fix this
Only when Israel loses
Or Palestine be happy in it's part will this unrest be over
They refuse any and all offers
They expect us to give up our right to a country a right that we so despretly need
We need a country
We were the hot potato of the world until then going from country to country just trying to find someone who alaccepts us
We didn't
And as such we needed to create a place that not only accepts us but is for us
Not exclusively mind you
There are over 50 Arab states
But a Jewish state there is only one
And I hope that once it's all over people will understand that
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In the end truth will prevail. May we find peace and live in unity worldwide!
I still learning more about the total history, but as I heard, each solution to an own Palestinian state came with a number of restrictions or clauses that would not lead to a independent state. That was why all those offers were declined.
The UN: There's five of them!
Israel: Then it is a fair fight.
*USA , israel will not exists nowadays if it were not the dogs of USA. Zionists have power throught the control of USA , not because Israel is strong.
@@shoky8622 israel had nuclear weapons before they were even friends with the americans, and no country holding nuclear weapon was ever destroyed, so nah
@@zohar9971 Zionist has power over USA since 1900 and after 1940 they have increase control over bancs , journalism and orher platforms, i dont know what are u talking about.
@@shoky8622 Me neither.
@@shoky8622 Israel is strong, they won their wars in history before even the USA supported them while the USSR supported the middle east from the start.
its 12 years old now , this video. Nothing has changed in arab leadership which is an oxymoron
Wow he so conveniently left out the nakba.. I wonder why?
Ok so explain the Nakba to me and why it is significant to this story?
@@peterpeters7534 The Nakba was ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people which occurred primarily in 1948 but started as early as December of 1947. It was the carrying-out of the Z-on*st Plan Dalet, a plan to expand the borders of the Z-on*st state, expel the Palestinian residents of any villages that fell within those borders and resisted, and place non-resisting villages under military control. Z-on*st forces expelled over 300,000 Palestinians from their homes before the 1948 Arab-Israeli war had even begun. By the end of the war, over 700,000 Palestinians had been expelled, thousands m-r-dr-d, their villages destroyed; they were fired at by Israeli soldiers if they tried to return to their homes, and their right to return has been denied to this day. This is significant because this is how the state of Israel gained its land to form its state.
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@@elicasual4054 The Nakba was ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people which occurred primarily in 1948 but started as early as December of 1947.
@@elicasual4054 It was the carrying-out of the Z-on*st Plan Dalet, a plan to expand the borders of the Z-on*st state, expel the Palestinian residents of any villages that fell within those borders and resisted, and place non-resisting villages under military control.
again why should the inhabitants of a land accept a decision of a foreigner to establish a state for a prosecuted population who escaped from europe the premise is flawed
😂😂this video is laughingly stupid
sharing is caring, and when you try to exterminate the people you're told to share with because they are jewish you lose the right to be upset you had to share.
@@tacotown4598 did you just say sharing is caring ?
@@tacotown4598 my man’s, I need a second spot. lemme get a room in your place. Sharing is caring
@@djwestbrook36 well if you bought a room from me and then brought a few of your friends over and in response I tried to kill you and all your friends I would say that I should be in jail or worse not demanding my entire house back.
also did you just say a second spot? in that case need isn't the correct way to describe it.
I like how you left out the fact that the British had already promised the Arabs the land for fighting the Ottoman Empire, BEFORE the Balfour was established.
They made promise to both sides. But what difference does it make?
the difference is jews are immigrants@@torokun
Notice how the British are always screwing with people
@torokun well if you watch the video, the whole premise is that the Jewish community got the land fair and square ND he left out a key part of the facts to corroborate his justification for that claim. It kind of likes buying a lottery from someone for 100 bucks when you already know it's a million dollar winner. You left out some key info.
The who was there "first" argument has been going on for centuries with both Palestinian and Israeli people claiming as far back as they can.
At this point of time and in history, both parties must agree to a two state solution and get on with their futures.
It would be good for this to be updated to include the events from 2011 to 2023
would it really change things? you can clearly see who's been in the wrong for a century now...
It would certainly be nice to see a treatment of the work of the Trump administration which lead to the Abraham Accords and President Trump's relocation of the US's embassy to Jerusalem. President Trump's reputation as the United States most pro-Jewish president is well-deserved.
@@Mak095yet you don’t say who?
@@fireblizard8366He’s talking about the Arabs, you 🤡🤡🤡
@@Mak095 jews first travelled to jarusalem to settle in 1001BC
islam started 600AD
explain to me why it was nesccesary for the british to give land in israel to jews after ww2; since it's their homeland.
what happened in israel which made it so that the jews didn't occupy their home land?
we can clearly see jews trying to get back their land from these violent pedo worshippers for the last century!
Reasonable compromises? If you had a sand which and I was hungry and someone said ok I'll take a quarter of yours and give it to me and you said no, is that rejecting a reasonable compromise?
In this metaphor: you never actually had a sandwich in the first place. The Ottoman Empire had the sandwich. But since you were part of the Ottoman Empire, they said that you had a claim to the sandwich. But then the Ottoman Empire lost World War One, and they had to give the sandwich to Britain, who had previously made an agreement to give it to the guy who originally owned the sandwich like 3000 years ago before it was stolen. But since you made so much noise, and Britain really didn't care that much about the sandwich, they rolled the deal back to split it between you. And then you made some more noise, and they split his half again. And then Britain left, and you started a war to reclaim the remaining quarter of your sandwich and kill the other guy, but you lost the war and the original owner ended up with more than Britain had originally given them, because that's what happens when you lose wars.
This is so good, an update would great as well.
Apparently, I liked this video 12 years ago because I don't remember it in 2023. Watched again for good measure!
Very pro-Israel slant to this video. It is gross.
@@picklethepirate momins are angry because Not pro islamic jihadi support in this Gold Video
@@picklethepirateyou just can’t handle the truth
@@DM-lt3zu he left out key information and cherry picked to fit pro Israeli agenda
@@picklethepirate The only reason you think facts are pro-Israel is because you hate Jews. This is really just good vs. evil to everyone else without bias.
12 years have passed, and the video as relevant as at the day of its creation...
It's crazy that the very attack and counter attack are directly connected to Israel's involvement lack of ability to control the problems they directly created... wild
...was just about to type the exact same thing!
And as biased. Euphemisms like ‘land swaps’ whereby Palestinians are coerced, by force, to take what the Israelites will pay, or be terrorised until they can no longer live there. This glosses over the entire sticky issue of Israeli Apartheid too. But those greenhouses man, I suppose that’s largesse as far as you people are concerned? 😂
You've been fooled by propaganda. Be a more critical consumer is my advice.
The bible is written more than 2000 years ago and it is still relevant today. Because it is written by the true and living God who know the end from the beginning.
You guys need to do a new updated video. So much have happened in 12 years.
One thing. The video mentions 1 million population of which 10% was Jewish. During the Ottoman times (late 1800s) the Jews were migrating to a land with a fluctuating population tú on of 215-285 thousand. The conditions were terrible and the Jews built an economy (previously most were in cities and unemployed). At the same time Jewss migrated so did the Arabs.
You win the wars, YOU draw the map.
Couldnt agree more, the unthankful Arabs even after getting Gaza back instead of making a country have just focused on destroying Israel
Invasion is prohibited by the international laws, but zionist has control over them so the zionist occupation has no consequences. If there were justice in the world, the Zionist occupation would not exist.
@@shoky8622 but Israel did not attack, they were always defending. Even in the six day war, the Arabs were prepering to attack Israel which strikes a bit before. A winer of a defencive war has a right to land. And not to mention they returned Sinai for peace in the 70s. Same here, if Palestinians actually wanted peace before they could have had the land. Now they cannot.
@sgg Tell that to the jews that were fighting for independence for a millenia, which offered you peace 5 times and more than 50% of Israel and 70% of transjordan. They deserve land too, esspecialy after they fought for it. Also the state was created by the UN which had historical grounds, and grounds that the arabs and jews have been fighting in the area for a few decades have given the Israelis the state.
@sgg They promised independence... okay? And? The UN promised independence to Israel too. And I mean the Arabs had been doing something in ww1 but it wasnt something that effected the whole war in the east. They could only cut minor supply lines and were used by the brits to do so yes. And I mean when the arabs did get their independence after ww2 they had a shit ton of states for them selves, Egypt, Jordan, Palestine(at the time), Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Quatar, Oman, Yemen and many more. If they deserve the entire middle east, Israel deserves a small slipper of land which it has even split 50/50 with Palestine, but they refused to work in peace. When you do that you get war, and the defender won and occupied their land. They have every right to do so, esspecialy when Palestinians live better in Israel than in "Palestine".(Gaza strip, the west bank)
I mean they do have a legitimate claim, the jews there were already fighting for independence and now they just came in stronger numbers to support their families in their fights and to claim their land that was ownership of other countries for 2-3k years. It was not an invasion, it was just people that wanted a home and could actually make the land better and they have rights to that land still. I have no fucking hobos in my front lawn, i dont even have a lawn, if that was just a "translation" for migrants into Europe, i dont think they should be shot/deported bc they are migrants, but bc they're muslim, make our lives worse and with less rights and make our economies shittier. As for in Palestine, idk why would you be up in arms, jews bring money and develop the lands, something Palestine hasnt done in hundreds of years.
"Mohhamed's religion was born with a sword" and I thought they were peaceful
That's what blood lust sounds like. I imagine the Crusades shouted the same thing about their religion, at least in effect. Islam wasn't born with a sword, neither was Christianity or Judaism. But people get angry, they fight and so on. Usually they warp their religion and use that to justify their endeavours. and they end up thinking that they're right.... Etc. What a mess. Just wish this would end! Palestine/Israel is a beautiful place. Jerusalem is wonderful. This fighting is awful.
@@2ears1mouth786 what about them countless verses premoting violence in the quran that ive heard of again and again and that all of these brutal empires used to justify horribe atrocoties on non-muslims.
@@trojangold8225 I'm not an authority on this. Verses can be taken out of context, their meanings taken the wrong way etc. Some "shaykhs" make fatwas saying this or that is religiously legal but those fatwas are worth nothing... Etc. Do I really need to say this? Please talk to someone who's an authority on the matter (without an agenda or bias!!!!) Not me.
I asked my Muslim gf about that and she ended up dumping me, I’m lucky to have come out of that one with my head still intact.
@@2ears1mouth786 Search "is islam a religion of peace?" In pragerU
You would think students attending a university would know this history. So what are they really being told in the classrooms?
Education is dead. Indoctrination rules. Stupid, angry people are easy to control.
At that age they are only just discovering the world and how it operates (at a very simplistic level). I speak for myself as well. About 50 years ago I was lucky to attend a university debate on this subject between Arab & Jewish speakers. It was a very heated debate (to say the least) but I noted that it was the Israeli speaker who held out the olive branch & tried to talk reason & common sense whilst the Arab speaker adopted the "all or nothing" stance which is why this conflict has lasted so long. However the peace that was brokered between Egypt & Israel was a landmark step at the time that no one thought was possible yet it has lasted. This is why I am starting to believe that the intervention of Saudi Arabia in running Gaza would be a better solution for the people of Gaza than Hamas who feed them unrealistic expectations and use them as pawns for their aid money and as cannon fodder to hide behind.
@@sharonjuniorchess I also have some first hand knowledge of antisentimism. I had five uncles fight in World War II and extended family. They each had their stories of what ‘ hatred towards Jewish people’ resulted to be.
I also had cared for a Jewish woman that told me what had happened to her and her family when Hitler ruled in Germany. She was 5 years old on the run from the hatred. She was also responsible for her 3 year old sister. I sat and listened to this woman’s testimony from sundown to dawn in total awe.
The Hamas will be no better than Hitler was for Gaza. The hatred between the two ethnic communities goes beyond our earthly minds and is deep seated in their spirits. To the point that the outcome of this current situation was written thousands of years ago.
@@kathychanning1614 I once was introduced to a sprightly elderly woman in her 80's who showed me her tattoo mark from Auschwitz. It was humbling to meet someone who had seen so much horror & death so full of life and zest.
@@sharonjuniorchess I have the book that lady I had cared for wrote. Her immediate family was the only ‘whole Jewish family unit’ to walk out of WWII. She had worked with the resistance at age 5, her mother and brother were on a train (in the same car b/c when they were loading another person had an extra kerchief to put on the boys head-this was how they split the males and female in the loading lines), anyway, the train broke down, the son got the mother to jump into the steam and they escaped running towards lights thinking it was a village. They met others running towards them, they told them it was Auschwitz. So much more had happened.
I also know some of the tattooed that had survived and some that were interviewed by Spielberg for the movie.
Another person I had interviewed to work with was a man that had been kidnapped by the Nazis at a young age. He was forced to become a Nazi and threatened if he refused. In such a situation a young boy would feel helpless, he submitted. Later, after the war was over, his wife would tell their 2 sons, “You have no idea who your father really is.” The boys grew and moved, the mother passed away, the dad left in his mindless state to a caregiver that wasn’t doing a very good job, and one of the sons tried to help his dad out had found the documents of who his dad really was.
One of my uncles marched with Patton. He was Native American and German. Because he spoke German, he was assigned to be a sniper. He’d have to work his way up toward the frontline, kill a German (close to his larger size) get his uniform, return to headquarters to get gum, cigarettes, and the latest jokes, then work his way up to the frontline dug outs and head in for info. I used to sit up with him and he’d drink non-stop from Friday after work to Sunday night, he’d tell all his war stories in German. I never understood what he’d said, but I’d sit and listen, if he laughed, I did. If he stared off, I did too.
I pray we don’t see a WWIII.
I’d be interested to see how this would be updated for PL Netanyahu’s service.