Same. I see his point, since Henry is definitely speaking only about the MCI kids the entire time, and then just kinda pivots to everybody else. But I think it makes sense if he was already putting together his big plan, as the ultimate goal is to free the kids and Charlie.
There are even some suggestions that Freddy can be possessed by a girl He hides in the female bathroom in FNaF1 and his laugh is named "girl laugh" in the files
@@gizkma2303 No one EVER called freddy's soul gabriella, just gabriel. Stop trying to change things just because why the hell not. If the soul WAS a girl, and WAS named gabriella, then everyone would call freddy a she and name the soul gabriella. But everyone calls freddy a HIM and HIS name is GABRIEL. Even scott calls freddy a boy.
The remnant does not work the same as animatronic soul possession, it's not like taking Freddy's remnant and putting it on Funtime Freddy, it's more like taking everything out of the animatronics and then depositing it in the scooper where it would mix with the remnant of other souls, which means that all the funtime are possessed by all the MCI kids but they are fragmented into different animatronics and also part of them is inside Michael, and the remaining remainder is in the scooper
and this is why we don't stop once we think we have everything figured out, only to ignore some weird details. this needs to happen for more things, and you've proven it with this theory.
This is really good, I always wondered how Golden Freddy's spirit (or spirits depending on what you believe) could be in Molten Freddy when it doesn't look like William managed to get him in Follow Me. Adding the idea of GF clinging to Springtrap/Scraptrap fits really nicely alongside MoltenMCI
quite interesting... though honestly? i genuinely do think that when henry said "all of them" he really just meant any robot still involved in the whole. shit going on. aka marionette, springtrap, and moltenfreddy+scrap baby
You can also said that when the Funtimes merge into Ennard Baby got remmanant of the MCI and when they split ScrapBaby have remmanant of the MCI, giving Henry a motive to call Baby to FFPS
I think Shattered Elizabeth could easily work with this theory, if instead of having one kid per funtime animatronic, we have them + Elizabeth be split across the three. She was put back together, though not alone. They are still in the masks, but she is fully whole.
Admittedly, i doubt Elizabeth was split between the full cast, and them with her. I suspect Elizabeth possessed Baby and ONLY Baby, while William injected the Four Kids (after being mixed together) into the other four Funtimes (Five if we count Funtime Chica, maybe?)
Sire Squawks making fire thumbnails as usual. P.S.: The idea of the MCI Kids consistently possesing the same character, except for Susie, is kinda funny to me.
I actually really love this theory. I actually feel like this one has a shot at being correct. It doesn't even do anything crazy, just organizes things we already know in a way that makes more sense. Like, we know Golden Freddy latches on to William already and we know all five spirits are there when he gets springlocked. So the idea that Michael burns part of them in Fnaf 3 and the bits used for Molten Freddy get burned in Fnaf 6 works pretty good IMO. It's a little less soul splitty and a little more "you didn't quite finish the job in Fnaf 3."
@@Emanuel-qo1jw *Technically,* the only time he EVER appears 100% is in FNAF SL. Dont know if he's even named or such in 6. Yet we know he's been in more than just SL
@@higueraft571 Logbook shows that Michael is Mike Schmidt, and has character lines showing that Michael is the protagonist in fnaf 6 Mike in fnaf 3 It has never been confirmed and is a theory
While I do feel like I just stumbled into the wrong classroom and have no idea what the teacher's talking about because I'm not even supposed to be here, it's not too hard to get my head around the idea that not all the souls are in the same animatronics, so Cassette Man needed to round them all up before setting them free. (The wrong classroom meaning I'm not a theorist and usually shrug off anything that gets too confusing)
I love this so much. Golden Freddy's exclusion from Follow Me always irked me, and him latching onto William in that way is so perfect. This fits so many things together aaaaa
What supports this theory is that the logbook has images of the FNaF 3 office, implying that FNaF 3 is when the logbook takes place. I really like this theory.
I always find that people forget that scrap baby has the MCI’s remnant too, and how even if you have all animatronics besides scrap baby in Pisa sim, Henry still doesn’t pull fire and says “all in one place”, so scrap baby must be important in some way.
7:08 Oh, damn. That would actually kinda answer the "that night, there was a knock on the door" ending of that story that has eluded me for years. Like, what the hell happened? lol Was it the burglar, or did the five kid abomination come back to get him? Well, it being a parallel for Ennard would serve as a bit of a connection to the non-canon ending of SL, where Ennard drops by Michael's for a visit. I also love this recontextualizing of the events of Follow Me. It's always bothered me how William apparently took all the endos, melted them down, and then came back for some reason. But him coming back and thinking he can do the same to GF, which ends up biting him big time is a good way to fix that. Or even just wanting to pick up his ol' Spring Bonnie costume. Either way, it's a decent explanation that I just never considered before.
I have seen a solid number of theory's as of late and with each one I've tried to go in and try to really figure out where they do and don't work and this is the first theory in a while where I really think you might have gotten it. The only things that really feel iffy are, as pointed out, candy cadet and 'putting baby back together' but honestly neither of those have made much sense and it does still have some weird writing issues; there's a lot happening off screen and Williams actions are questionable but I cant really fault the theory for that
I was so confused when you said Elizabeth could've been low priority until I thought about it. BABY is important, Elizabeth is just there. As the books show Charlie could be BABY and nothing would really change about the animatronic. But an in-game realization is if Charlie died first then Henry would see Elizabeth as "Karma" and wouldn't care about setting her free. Which is so crazy to think about since his hatred of William is so strong he would rather off the man than let him live and suffer.
I really like this theory, and I think it can be extended to another widespread theory that never quite felt right to me. GoldenDuo. Cassidy is the fifth MCI kid, attached to first Golden Freddy, and then Springtrap, and orchestrates UCN. Bite Victim is attached to *Michael*, haunting him, causing the "it's me" hallucinations, altering text in his logbook, and tormenting him with the same nightmares BV suffered. (Maybe. The scarecrow gas from dittophobia complicates this.) BV passed away in a hospital, with Michael being one of the last people to talk to him. All of the other possessions in the games involve much more direct contact with the animatronic they go on to haunt. Elizabeth gets grabbed by Baby, the bodies of the MCI kids (including Cassidy) are physically stuffed in the animatronics, the Puppet lies on top of Charlie's body for who knows how long, and William. Well. This isn't perfect, it doesn't explain why Cassidy has more supernatural powers than the others, nor how or why theyre TOYSNHK. The different Golden Freddy designs also throw a wrinkle into this. We could say that Withered GF was the suit Cassidy was stuffed in (seen in Give Gifts, and because BV has no means or motive to attack Jeremy or Fritz). Golden Freddy in FNAF 1 is entirely hallucinations from BV, taking Freddy's current appearance and altering it like the text in the logbook, adding the message it's me... except then what's Cassidy doing? And in the oft forgotten between night cutscenes in FNAF 2, we seem to be the spirit haunting Freddy, and we see FNAF 1 Golden Freddy, with no Michael in sight. Then we get into the whole weirdness with UCN, where using the death coin on *Withered* GF makes FNAF 1 GF jumpscare us... except he has a purple hat and tie like Fredbear? And the hidden ending cutscene has FNAF 1 GF twitching in the darkness... with a black hat and bowtie again. Honestly Golden Freddy's different designs are such a headache to deal with no matter what, since it implies that post FNAF 2, an entirely shelved animatronic is refurbished for their last restaurant running on a shoestring budget, but is then shelved again completely before the events of FNAF 1. It gets even worse if that suit is also Fredbear, and also a springlock... And to think, this is just more radioactive fallout from FNAF 4 and dream theory...
Ok so it's literally 1 in the morning here so I haven't really thought this through but BV haunting Michael ties into Happiest Day, FNAF World, and the other FNAF 3 minigames in interesting ways. Shit, maybe even the way you access those mini games? Keypad wall tiles being diagetic may be too gigabrained though... I was going to say that under this theory the Phantoms in FNAF 3 were a sort of mini UCN created by BV for Michael, and that the Shadow animatronics were also made by BV, except all of those are all based on FNAF 2 characters/designs (except chica), and I really don't think Jeremy is another one of Michaels psdudonyms.
@@astrid9920 >All of the other possessions in the games involve much more direct contact with the animatronic they go on to haunt. To be fair, in The Real Jake, i'm pretty sure Jake possesses "Simon" when he eventually died in the Hospital, and i dont think that involved direct contact at all. Infact, there's technically even LESS reason to possess it directly, aside from being what his father talked to him through. Compared to CC who got chomped by Fredbear in a very very close contact. >This isn't perfect, it doesn't explain why Cassidy has more supernatural powers than the others, nor how or why theyre TOYSNHK. This is actually pretty simple, you just need to read between the lines a tiny bit with FNAF 1 and 2 lore nearly exclusively. You can probably figure it out yourself, though i could definitely explain it if you really needed, but i'll ask this question: *What was Cassidy put inside?* >where using the death coin on Withered GF makes FNAF 1 GF jumpscare us... except he has a purple hat and tie like Fredbear? And the hidden ending cutscene has FNAF 1 GF twitching in the darkness... with a black hat and bowtie again.
Do note, the purple hat/tie are *glowing* purple in this instance, they're most likely still "black" normally.
I went into this pretty skeptical tbh but honestly you've convinced me (except for maybe the Candy Cadet stories because I think those are just about FNAF 6 and the burning but that doesn't affect the theory)
This theory certainly fits better than normal Molten MCI. Though nothing against you, narratively, I still don't like any version where the Funtimes are possessed (at least partially) by the MCI kids. Especially Follow Me implies that all of the scenes happen on one night. Because it is raining in all of the scenes, and it would be weird if Afton either only dismantled one animitronic per day, or dismantled 4 of them, left, and came abother rainy night to dismantle Golden Freddy. Another thing people don't seem to mention is the ruined animitronic parts in Follow Me. How that none of the pieces are ever missing, they just stay there throughout every cutscene (even the final one where Afton geta springlocked). If Afton really was taking the animitronics' parts to use their Remnant and putting them into the Funtimes, then wouldn't *some of the parts be missing*? If Remnant was extracted from the animitronics, then that would require Afton taking some of the parts away to his base. But in Follow Me, none of the scrapped parts are ever missing. They stay there until Afton get springlocked and locked in ths safe room. And I don't think he could really build the Funtimes after that point.
Most of the endoskeleton is not seen lying on the ground in the minigames implying that William took them, also the Insanity Ending implies that Follow Me is related to putting the MCI in the Funtimes, listen to the ending again
@@vortigaunt_gaming but the endoskeleton is also not seen when Afton is directly taking the animitronics apart during the minigame. If the broken pieces we see *really* are just the casing, we should be able to see the endo bare when Afton takes apart the animitronics at the end of each scene.
@@tinaherr3856 It's just a minigame bro, it's simplified, and at the time Scott wasn't thinking about Sister Location when he made it, the story changed
@@vortigaunt_gaming then by that logic, you can't use the explanation "Most of the endoskeleton is not seen lying on the ground in the minigames implying that William took them" .
I think the issues that I have with the MCI kids possessing the funtimes is 1. I doubt William would be stupid enough to make the robots that were designed to kill kids have said kids possess said robots and kill him so I feel they just contain souls rather than just possessing them, 2. There are 5 funtimes with baby having Elizabeth’s soul meaning that one of the MCI kids has to be in Funtime Chica who’s rented out during the events of sister location (Maybe Henry put her in the simulated Pizzaera to make sure any loose ends were gone?) and 3. We don’t know where fallow me takes place and considering William didn’t take the parts that are still possessed as of Fnaf back to his lab for extraction, I can’t really buy that factor being in place, still a good theory regardless.
Yeah, same here! I will never like molten MCI (for the same reasons), but the problem is thant when you don't like it is not like you have that many options to believe besides that, in my opinion my favorite alternative is rockstar MCI, but is not the best and there is not much else, is it?
The remnant doesn't work like that, it's not like taking Freddy's remnant and putting it on Funtime Freddy, it's more like taking everything out of the animatronics and then depositing it in the scooper where it would mix with the remnant of other souls, which means that all the funtime are possessed by all the MCI kids but they are fragmented into different animatronics and also part of them is inside Michael, and the remaining remainder is in the scooper
William injected a little of the remnant/soul of each mci victim into funtime (with the exception of baby and funtime Chica) It's as if each funtime had a piece of the soul of each mci victim
>I doubt William would be stupid enough to make the robots that were designed to kill kids have said kids possess said robots and kill him so I feel they just contain souls rather than just possessing them, We know in FNAF 3 that the Programming WILL Override whatever they attempt, they possess the Animatronics, but they're still puppeteering a movement-capable doll until it decides to act on it's own. William CANNOT resist following the lures in 3, because Springbonnie is looking for children to entertain. Similarly, the FNAF 1s CANNOT enter the saferooms, because their programming forbids it. Infact, it's likely William couldnt escape because he was INSIDE an animatronic that was trapped there. Like one of the self-driving cars if you drew a "no pass" symbol around it, with no way out... until someone manually drags it out, like Phone Dude for example. William could probably make something to *keep* them docile. Either programming-wise, or simply the Controlled Shocks, which we know makes them back off (AR + 6) >Maybe Henry put her in the simulated Pizzaera to make sure any loose ends were gone? We dont really know if Henry is doing anything yet. Although if i remember right, you can buy her in 6. >We don’t know where fallow me takes place Sometime after FNAF 1 shut down, decently short-term after FNAF 1, maybe a few months? >and considering William didn’t take the parts that are still possessed as of Fnaf back to his lab for extraction, We never see what happens to the endos exactly, though we know ONLY Shells were recovered from FNAF 1's location, alongside said shells being strewn across the floor in Follow Me.
I always thought Molten Freddy was brought in because Funtime Freddy could have leftover remnant from kids he kidnapped/killed, so he was killed in the fire to set it free
I think you're misreading the line "bring them ALL back" I think what Henry is talking about is not all of the MCI kid's spirts but rather all of the remaining still haunted animatronics Ie being: Baby, SpringTrap, The Puppet, and honestly molten fredddy is just weird but again I think over the years we've kinda started to ignore the DCI or MCI 2 whatever you want to call it that took place in fnaf two that caused the day shift to open up for Jeremy to end up getting chomped during the final birthday party scheduled before the fnaf 2 building closed and honestly it kinda makes more sense for the spirits to be from the DCI and not the MCI as well all the spirits of the mci should already be set free if fnaf 3's good ending should be belived
Happiest day chronologically is after FNAF 6, so much so that in the minigame Charlotte Emily soul rests. moltenDCI is illogical because it is always said and shown that the mci souls are somewhere in the pizza place. henry in the insanity ending mentions that the animatronics fell into a trap by William Afton (william just made a trap for the classic animatronics) in addition to henry explicitly saying in the canon ending "it's time to rest, for you and for those you carried in your arms " (referring to the 5 mci victims) and the lorekeeper ending of fnaf 6 explicitly shows charlotte graves and the graves of mci victims
Henry literally makes reference to the MCI throughout his entire insanity ending speech alongside William and Charlotte. So no, it's really not misreading.
This theory has made the most sense in my mind since I went down this rabbithole of a plot inconsistency I never even noticed, the MCI victims clinging to both Afton & Molten Freddy makes the most sense and I feel that is what both book series was trying to nudge us towrds. However everything about FFPS' story and the crumbs it gives us makes a lot more sense when you consider the scrapped Scrap Chica that was teased. It would make Susie's spotlight in fruity maze less out of place and fill in the gaps of Henry's speeches. Its such a strange exclusion once you realize how much nicer of a conclusion FFPS would be with her. There is another theory out there that supports this one, it analyzes Scraptrap's design & the stitchwraith stingers to claim some of the more out of place almost Freddy-like elements are to hint at Cassidy/Golden Freddy's spirit latching onto Afton. These two ideas together make the conclusion much smoother, even with the removal of Scrap Chica.
Also, I think the story “You’re the band” explains how Cassidy bonded to William. In fnaf 2, it was said a yellow suit was used to lure and kill the dci. Most people think it’s springbonnie, but it’s actually more likely it was golden freddy. And we learned from the story a soul can bond to a living person if the suit was worn by a living person.
Michael got the Golden Freddy remnant. It's how Baby keeps her promise to him. It's the reason he rises up when she chants 'you won't die' over and over from the sewers. The scooper blueprints literally state that every time the scooper arm swings it injects remnant from it's reservoir into whatever it collides with. Mike was the last thing it was used on. He stays behind to surrender the remnant he was afflicted with, if he doesn't Golden Freddy can't move on and UCN doesn't occur. It's literally that simple. Mike would have no reason to stay and would have taken Henry up on his planned escape route, if not for the fact that he was afflicted with remnant in order to be there in the first place. Mike was scooped canonically, literally the ONLY other ending to sister location is called the 'fake ending'. There's no escaping him carrying the missing remnant, it's a fact of the games from Sister location - pizzeria simulator. Also the OG book trilogy parallels it through Charlie's friend Carlos, who thanks to William Afton is forcibly injected with the same remnant Mike was in sister location, except the spirit it belonged to wanted Carlos to and I quote 'have a nice life' and goes on to say 'you can give it back to me the next time you see me.' implying the two would meet again at the end of Carlos's natural life.
Also there is a theoretical way for spring trap to get out of fnaf 3 even if the doors are sealed (the bathrooms since pretty much all buildings require one) he could run to the bathroom turn on the taps and go prone against the floor (this guarantees the fire won't reach him till the floor collapses and roof caves in (SL custom night Cutscene shows him rising from rubble) and that cave in would likely trigger a temporary exposure to fire but not long enough to reach remnant neutralization (plus it would cause the plastic shell of his suit to expand and bubble and can lead to pizza sim)
There IS another alternative: Fire doesnt destroy Remnant, there's more evidence hinting towards this than for it destroying Remnant, HOWEVER... It does stun Remnant, rendering it inert as long as heat is applied. Springtrap is lying on the ground, and seemingly "waking up", he's also been Damaged. As if he'd been heated up enough to render Remnant Inert, knocking him Out. Controlled Shocks (SL, 6, AR) all stun the Animatronics. Why? It's briefly heating them up considerably. Hot enough to at the very least, for flesh, leave burn marks throughout. You cant be aggressive if you're blacking out every time you look particularly menacing.
The only issue would be truly explaining why Scrap Baby needed to be there, perhaps she ended up taking one of the MCI victims when she split from Enard? Just spit balling here, idk if any evidence would back it up
Honestly, I’ve never understood the concept of “Remnant” and how William could’ve somehow harvested it; if Remnant can be destroyed by the kinda heat produced by a building fire, as Henry seemed to think in Pizzeria Simulator, then there’s no way Afton could melt down the endoskeletons without destroying the Remnant attached to them. And if Remnant CAN survive the kinda temperatures needed to melt metal, then Henry’s plan was doomed to fail, and it’s unlikely anybody’s spirit was freed from their metal prisons.
The assumption of the community (based on the novels) is that it’s a certain amount of heat. Given in a few renders we can see that molten Freddy is literally a bit molten with red glowing ooze dripping off of it, this is a little canon to the games.
@@higueraft571 knowing how fnaf works it's basically impossible for someone to die and not possess anything. Save them heavily implies they possess the toys
@@br2891 Except how DID they possess the toys? What would the "Something new, something borrowed" mean? The Toys dont quite seem as... stuffable, too. There's also the question of the Multiple Simultaneous Springlock Failures where, if someone DID die, where did they go? Same for Phone guy. He died *inside* a Freddy suit to stuffing, yet no Ghost Guy seemingly. As far as we see, the DCI doesnt really relate to the Toys. Especially since they act possessed before any kids WERE killed...
You know, I've had the idea that Molten Freddy is the MCI+BV (because I'm a GoldenDuo believer) but Cassidy is also inside Springtrap at the same time. Somehow this much more sensible possibility never once occurred to me, good theory! As a side note, idk if it's really in character for BV to latch on to Afton, but I guess you could explain it as "Cassidy's there and she's his friend" or something
@siresquawks your channel isn't the biggest but I'd still consider you one of the bigger theorist since you're well regarded and your channel is pretty much focused on fnaf content.
The Funtime animatronics don’t have individual souls in them. Afton fused all of the remnant metal shit of the MCI animatronics together, which was then used for the Funtimes. So TL;DR is each Funtime has a part of all four souls.
I really liked the wrap up, great logic, and hilarious. Love your videos, and they are only getting better! But you have been uploading a crapton lately, take time for yourself too, yeah? Now, as I see it, and feel quite (suprisingly) confident in: MCI- Charlie ("For those that you have carried in your arms" -Henry to Charlie) DCI- William (I personally think they are the phantoms which are bound to Springtrap as shown in VR. I don't know how/when exactly this happened as the canon is never consistent with the Toys. I can think of two ways with minimal 'jumps' though so I'm okay with it.) Scrapbaby... as Scrapbaby Molten Freddy as experiement victims, but also he says some things he shouldn't know... so family friends? I feel like the souls inside once knew Mike and BV. Which segways to my final and most confident deduction- Mike brings in at least one (perhaps two according to Security Logbook, maybe the other was a free roaming spirit) that stayed with him after Ennard left to keep him alive after the Scuping. This is when they are all writing in the Logbook during FNaF 3. This contextualizes memory sharing, as one of them gave a memory to save Mike, and Mike helps in turn with Happiest Day. Or perhaps it is closer to straight possession, but whoever was with Mike found the trail of crumbs and reunited with their friends. (Spicy take here but imo it was his baby brother, Golden Freddy, which is why Goldie is no longer a threat at all in 3 forward.) Also it makes it a story of forgiveness (minus TOYSNHK which I won't touch here) which I quite rather find more palliable.
Can someone answer this for me? Henry said he needed to "lure them all back". "Back" not "here". He said "back" as if they had been there before. Anybody could know what he meant by this?
I think he just means “lure them all back here.” At least Lefty was previously there , since Henry built it. If fnaf6 is in fredbear’s, then William and maybe Elizabeth were there as well in the 80s.
There is a theory that the FNAF 6 location is a rebranded Fredbear's family diner and that the area the Mimic chases you in in ruin is a part of Circus Baby's, if that theory is correct then it could be because William and Michael have both been to Fredbear's family diner and Circus Baby's, Molten Freddy and Scrap Baby would have both been to Circus Baby's which would have been under the FNAF 6 location and Lefty by being the Puppet would have been there before because that would be where she died.
1:08 Likely off-topic, but the room looks like a kid's head. Puddles for eyes. The 4 kids at the bottom as teeth for the skull. The arcade cabinets seem to be where some of the eye puddles come from - maybe indicating a bleeding head wound? I dunno what it would mean beyond "this is the room they died in" but I just friggin noticed that.
Well, it's the difference between letting flaming debris collapse and putting someone in a blazing oven with steel walls they can't get out of. Henry's is a suped up more extreme version.
this is the first theory of yours i really agree with it just makes sense. the only thing that seems odd is the lack of hints towards Cassidy being bound to William outside of a parallel with the man in room 108 which definitely links more to custom night than pre FNAF 6. i think this gives me a similar feeling you describe near the end. i mean i still would argue for Toy MCI (toy parts would be much more accessible than the FNAF 1 ones and it means William does not have to leave and come back.)
This got me thinking. It is a speculation, but what if golden Freddy was in the safe room. I mean what if the golden bunny suit (at least the lower half) is actually the golden Freddy suit. Maybe that can justify how Afton survived till frights. Also kinda explain how golden Freddy latches itself onto Afton.
Okay. Their is one thing I want to mention that I guess you could overlook with this, but how and why does molten Freddy know their are multiple members of the Afton family there? I mean one of his voice lines is “one big happy family”, unless he’s just referring to how the MCI kids have been together for so long they’ve kinda became like a family, but idk, and how does BV fit into all of this? That’s like one piece of this I don’t understand, because if he is being lugged around in afton by Cassidy also don’t you think he’d have some kind of fight with Cassidy trying to justify his father? I mean yea he could know his father is a killer, but like, William is still his father and he could genuinely love him to a degree despite the monster William is, Idk, I’m just tossing out ideas and thoughts, but if you could can you really try and figure out how BV fits into every other piece of the lore? Because BV doesn’t fit cleanly in almost anything yet for him most likely being the CATALYST that starts Williams murder spree and mikes search for redemption, he feels like he should be more important yet since basically Fnaf SL with the 1983 code he’s been largely overlooked and forgotten, I just wish we could answer how BV fits in with everything else post bite of 83, unless he’s just somehow attached himself to Michael like Cassidy did to William. PS: I’d also to love and see your full take and ideas on the timeline, love the videos!
I always thought ft Freddy had most of the remnant, explaining why they talk the most, bon-bon having their own personality, and it being molten FREDDY instead of just being another Ennard or smth
The longer the series goes on, the more I am tempted to try and simplify things; Is it possible that the 5th that chases Afton around before he gets in the suit... Was his youngest son, like, visibly clearly his son? He's very, very freaked out in the mini-game. And we know why he's there; to collect materials for his science projects with soul goo. Afton already knows that ghosts are real, or at minimum there is something super natural going on that has enough physicality that he can extract a weird substance from dead people / robots after murdering them. So how or why is this interaction so alarming vs. others? Perhaps it's because the 5th ghost is an "unexpected" spirit he didn't know could be there? That night, at the FNAF1 location, when he suddenly sees the ghost of his son AND his four victims together, he hides in the spring bonnie suit because his son was afraid of the springlock suits; his son was afraid of Spring Bonnie and Fredbear; he was a cruel, abusive father and so LAUGHS at seeing the ghost of his son perhaps give pause, or waver, at the suit being put on. Afton's emotions, probably many different ones, would have clouded his rationality and caused him to forget the dangers of springlock suits in damp environments. Perhaps "scaring" the ghost of his son with the suit makes him feel empowered; just like he was discovering the "secrets" of life and death itself, he could intimidate even the supernatural! Causing him then to not realize his fatal, stupid mistake.
Something i like about this theory is that it would explain why the blob (if you believe he was molten Freddy) only has four glowing eyes one for each of the MCI minis golden Freddy
you cannot convince me that it is more likely that molten freddy is MCI, therefore MCI are in the funtimes, rather then funtimes and molten freddy just being fueled with agony, or remnant, or even random chldren souls. Because there is no proof of it, besides henrie's speech in one of the endings wich could be interprited in multiple ways. I feel like we should move on from fnaf 1-6, because we know how it ended and if some of us have different headcannons that's really not that important. Then again, nobody wants to delv into security breach vr ar lore. Exept matpat. We lost him. His recent theory prety much confirmes that he gave up
This actually could make alot of sense. Remind me if im wrong but in the faz frights books Andrew still carries the room man with him when he became the wraith (is that the right name), so in the games it would be the opposite William has Cassidy and the crying child with him.
Speaking of loosely tying Ballora to Chica, i basically saw it similar to mod videos with older characters in place of Security Breach. Therefore Monty and Roxy are swapped with Bonnie and Foxy. As for the Funtimes, I can see some loose ties: Ballora with Chica as she had a gym encouraging fitness and pizza, and Baby has bots and plushies around Bonnie Bowl (in Ruin its in the Raceway right under the bowling alley). And the Blob's glowing eyed heads are Funtime Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Mangle (albeit the 2nd head) with Puppet and Baby off. With the Cupcake's prominence in the movie teasers, I seen some question if it was the 5th kid, but fortunately Golden Freddy is seen, so perhaps the Cupcake is Susie's dog. We even see Cupcake in the Fourth Closet comic amalgam despite no dog inside and no Golden Freddy despite 5 souls within. And given this movie is framed for a first exposure, it probably won't swap genders or double spirits like Cassidy.
I don't get what the problem with soul splitting is. In the silver eyes trilogy, we've seen that the souls of the kids are somewhat fragmented, and that explains what "being put back together" means in this universe, as well as showing that this isn't a concept unique to Crying Child. Now, if being put back together is not only a concept that we can explain as the undoing of this fragmentation and we've seen this concept existing in the games, I don't understand why we should avoid soul splitting as a concept, since that's almost certainly happened at least once to at least Crying Child (which could explain the FNaF 3 miniganes and why they might be referencing things in the FNaF 4 minigames)
0:32 luring scraptrap, lefty, scrapbaby, and molten Freddy together is important because that combination sets *everyone* free. Once afton dies, the children he killed will move on (besides Cassidy cause she is vengeful) Scrap baby is Elizabeth, so she needs to go, molten Freddy is the fun times, so they need to go, and the puppet needs to go because she is Charlie, Henry literally says “it’s time to rest, for you, and *for those you have carried in your arms.* I’ve personally never been a fan of molten or Funtime MCI, just because it feels very stupid to me. Making most haunted animatronics just the MCI as well doesn’t feel right to me.
I don’t know why the Funtimes just can’t be possessed by another group of dead kids and the OG dead kids (minus Cass and Charlie) were all freed in happiest day.
Because that'd be weird just to randomly involve a separate set of kids with no names or history, or any real mention, and for William to heavily imply that the MCI kids ARE there. It's possible the only one who didnt Pass On was Charlie, in Happiest Day, especially if you believe the MCI kids were split between the Endos and the Shells, and the latter were what moved on alongside CC.
This is a really great theory, and I think this is probably what fazbear frights was trying to tell us. Because if spring trap MCI was true then surely fazbear frights would've had more of Williams victims attached to him. As it was just Andrew, I think it's a fair assumption that just Cassidy was attached to William. And if people still want to use five things becoming one thing themes from candy cadet, that is still 4 MCI victims and Elizabeth who become ennard (like you said with Michael becoming the coffin)
I said it the other day on your Springtrap MCI video, but I really hope you do get the Shattered Elizabeth theory done, even if it is wrong, because having the idea on the table period means it can be tweaked and reworked easier to try and make an overall better theory. That’s what a theorist community is supposed to do after all
You know, there is reason to believe parts of the souls would be in the costumes. After all, the reason FNAF 1 night guard dies on a game over is because of all the crossbeams and stuff inside the costumes. Those beams and things are as much metal as the endoskeletons. I’ve not seen that specific detail mentioned in regard to remnant
Susie doesn’t necessarily need to possess Ballora because Funtime Chica exists. “But why isn’t she in sister location?” Simple, she’s rented out “Why do you buy her in Fnaf 6 then?” that one I don’t have a clear answer for but either Henry rented her and is making Mike pay for her or someone put her up for sale because Afton is not there anymore.
springtrap containing the spirit of golden freddy is a nice workaround to explain why golden freddy is not seen in follow me or fnaf 6 at all. especially the line "they burn us" containing golden freddy and springtrap seems to point in that direction. the only question is, how did the vengeful spirit start to posses the golden bunny suit? mby spare sparts? but where is golden freddy anyway? he shows up in fnaf 1 which happens after follow me so, what happened there?
The only wrench we have now is that the books have introduced new murder victims to possibly be the remnant in the Funtimes/Molten Freddy... but I like this theory better that whatever is going on in the books. It makes sense, it's a good theory.
Its really awesome you're talking about this theory because its what ive been thinking for a while now. Although there's no hints towards it specifically, I like to believe that the remnant William used to make himself immortal is specifically from Fredbear aka Cassidy. That's how she has control over his life and is the only one with that ability. Would also make sense why shes the angriest one if she has to be tethered to her killer 24/7 I know you don't like the soul splitting thing but also this same idea can be applied to Michael, which is why CC and Cassidy are able to talk in the log book but none of the other kids do.
>Would also make sense why shes the angriest one if she has to be tethered to her killer 24/7 Admittedly, heavily doubt this is why. Infact, we practically get the answer from JUST FNAF 1 and 2 alone, although you do need to read between the lines juuust a tiny bit...
@@higueraft571 As far as I know, William Afton only survived the springlock failure due to William fear of death and agony. Furthermore, William Afton did not regenerate from the damage inflicted by the springlocks, unlike Mike who was revived and regenerated by the remnant
@@Emanuel-qo1jw Keep in mind: Agony *IS* (a form of) Remnant, and one notable difference is that, while Mike *did* regenerate, this was only after the metal stopped impaling him. William is still impaled in his everything. Depending on if you view Scraptrap as canon, the whole flesh thing COULD be considered regeneration in some limited capacity. But it's also Scraptrap. You *could* probably argue there's been some strange regen going on with Burntrap more likely, considering the flesh growing/wrapping around parts he did not have before, such as the modified Glamrock legs and replacement Endo Hands (model unknown)
I've had this thought since Ruin, I wonder if the Funtimes (other then Baby) aren't actually possessed and are really AI. Knowing the Mimic has been around for a long time, Afton is smart enough to possibly make some basic AI for everyone (Yes, I am aware Afton didn't make the Mimic, I'm just saying the tech was there at the time). Possible that when Ennard is created, Elizabeth's soul could have split in half when Baby was booted out later.
Keep in mind, Ennard/Molten Freddy has THE most Remnant of everyone there. It was the most dead children inside it. This doesnt really work when Ennard is like... half the amount of anyone other than Scrap Baby and itself.
Think about this: you may think that Cassidy is not within Molten Freddy, but then consider Yenndo. People haven’t thought about this, what is Yenndo? It’s an endoskeleton that can teleport and has yellow eyes. Consider, what if it’s Cassidy in a way? If Cassidy’s remnant was within the Funtime animatronics, it would form its own ghostlike projection in the form of Yenndo. And consider this, many people believe that Golden Freddy is a projection of the Fredbear suit Cassidy uses to see, hear, and attack, while the actual Fredbear suit is somewhere else (It would also allow Crying Child to hear and sense things). What if William found the original suit to extract remnant from it? This would explain Yenndo’s existence
So who’s lolbit? What’s the lore behind electrobab? Not all of the SL roster are in Ennard/Molten Freddy and not all have defined lore. Ennard (based on eyes) has Baby, Funtime Foxy, Ballora, BonBon, and Funtime Freddy in it. We don’t see a second yellow eye or anything like that. Yenndo’s an Easter egg. That’s all.
@@siresquawks Golden Freddy, RXQ, and Shadow Freddy were all once Easter eggs. I’d understand why Lolbit would be an Easter egg (lol is literally in their name), but to say that Yenndo is one and thus he has no relevance feels disingenuous. I mean his name translates to Yellow Endo, similar to Golden Freddy’s “Yellow Bear.” And Electrobab could just be one of Baby’s two Bidibabs
But molten mci is it's basically a confirm theory Henry was talkin about how William molten down the edoskeleton and put the remnant souls in to the Funtime's
I don't think Henry thinks of Baby as a miscellaneous piece in this. She is still an Afton child, and although off her rocker by now she is partially Henry's design with Afton modding her, and ultimately still part of the Afton and Emily family group and the people most affected by the murdering and tragedy around Freddy's in their entirety, the founding families of an ultimately corrupt and out of control business that was made out of purity on Henry's part at the very least. A correction of past mistakes includes at least everyone Henry knows off the bat as victims, and Baby existing does still need to be addressed, particularly because Baby's programming and spirit are also a threat to others. She isn't like the MCI that mainly only attack adults or in the books some rotten kods here and there, Baby and Elizabeth have a warped idea of their father and creator as if he was actually as skillful of a planner instead of a man driven mad and cruel by grief that took it out on others and stumbled his way to a sort of ageless immortality. Elizabeth's soul in Baby is a direct threat by copying her monster of a father despite the clear lack of any respect for her. Charlie is a sort of threat to adults despite being more aware than others, and William is just straight up an unapologetic monster. Molten is a mix of the MCI attacking of adults and the cruel programming of the Funtimes themselves, especially Funtime Freddy, the likely most intelligent and aware besides Baby and the most unhinged and obviously dangerous.
Yea, sorry but I just don't think Molten Freddy or it's constituents are possessed. And remnant isn't an anchor for the souls, it's just a supernatural residue, like ectoplasm. When a soul possesses an object, it leaves behind this residue. It has properties which I guess Afton thinks are the key to immortality. I don't think it's liquid metal. Maybe in the books that is true, but the games don't say anything about its nature, only that it's a liquid that has to be kept at the right temperature for some reason.
>but I just don't think Molten Freddy or it's constituents are possessed. It outright states that Molten Freddy has the most Remnant out of everyone. >it's just a supernatural residue, like ectoplasm. It IS the Soul. That and/or the parts that make up the soul. >I don't think it's liquid metal. Admittedly, it's described as a "bubbling silvery liquid" in the books, similar to Mercury. This doesnt really mean it IS Metal however, only that it's opaque, grey(?), and reflective. >Maybe in the books that is true, but the games don't say anything about its nature, only that it's a liquid that has to be kept at the right temperature for some reason. From what Scott's mentioned, generally the *events* of the Books arent canon to the games, but typically the mechanics shown off in the books are much closer to the games' mechanics. Although i do suspect the Book is operating with slightly different terms: AR introduces us to two things, "Light Remnant", and "Dark Remnant". The Books introduce us to "Remnant", and "Agony". Phineas Talbert gives us a rough Gist of the two on their introduction... Agony (Dark Remnant, or simply "Agony") is a negative emotion, and the most powerful of the two, capable of surviving a "transfer" that others cannot normally, capable of animating things given the right object, with an affinity for objects that "Conduct" it better, Metal being one of the best. Love (Light Remnant, or simply "Remnant") is a positive emotion, and the most powerful of the Light Remnants, capable of healing wounds and creating Illusions. Both of which create a Whole Soul when combined, much like Trilogy ""Charlie"". Additionally, the Books give us an additional feature of Agony specifically, it can "Shelter" other Emotions during said Transfer, working like a Conduit of sorts. Henry quite literally pours his Agony and Love into that Ella doll, and created a living being (of sorts) out of it. (One he immediately gaslit into believing it was his Daughter, but still)
Is it possible that Cassidy was always in Spring Bonnie? We never see Afton destroy the Golden Freddy suit, and it would solve the complex problem that is Golden Duo. I think the only real issue is the Fredbear jump scare in UCN, but here's my possible explanation: Maybe Cassidy WAS put in the Fredbear suit, but since there was already the spirit of the crying child in the suit, the only other place her agony could go was the Killer's own suit. Then of course the events of FNAF3's cutscenes happen, and the spirits work together to get their revenge on Afton. Then, similar to the Frights books, Afton is kept alive inside the suit by Cassidy. It's not that Afton's spirit is inside Springtrap, but rather that Afton is kept alive inside the suit by the spirit of Cassidy, the actual spirit in the suit. This also clears up the "5 into 1" problem that Golden Duo introduces, because no matter what, if there's 2 spirits in Golden Freddy, then it's either 4 or 6 spirits, not 5. But if Cassidy is in Golden Bonnie, that brings us to 5, even if she's in the suit with Afton.
>Is it possible that Cassidy was always in Spring Bonnie? She was DEFINITELY stuffed in Gfreddy. William would have had to get out of his Spring Bonnie costume during the stuffings, and shove Cassidy in the suit he was JUST wearing. >but since there was already the spirit of the crying child in the suit, the only other place her agony could go was the Killer's own suit. We know several spirits can share the same body. >because no matter what, if there's 2 spirits in Golden Freddy, then it's either 4 or 6 spirits, not 5. Assuming CC is even in there. Also assuming they're even counted as part of "The Five" for the MCI, which they arent.
This is very compelling and makes alot of sense, the books imply Cassidy attached themselves to William's soul and there were only 4 animatronics that William dismantled. Side note but it is impossible for William to have gathered the remnent off of the main animatronics in the FNAF 3 minigame and bring them back to the bunker to use them for the funtimes as William stayed in the saferoom the whole time only leaving to disassemble the animatronics 1 by 1 so someone had to of either gathered the part after he was springlocked or Ennard after leaving the bunker went back to the location and used the left over parts to help rebuild themselves in order for the Funtime MCI theory to be true, what do you think?
>as William stayed in the saferoom the whole time only leaving to disassemble the animatronics 1 by 1 That's what we SEE, but we know there's more happening off screen. We never see where he goes after each one is torn apart.
@@higueraft571 mate, the place is abandoned, he has the perfect hiding spot from the animatronics and the place is bordered up. Why and how would he be able to leave each time after he dismantles the animatronics and why would he return at all when it would only raise suspicions on him
@@DJBurns-jq8mn >Why and how would he be able to leave each time after he dismantles the animatronics So it has time to "Process" most likely, to melt down and extract. >Why and how would he be able to leave each time after he dismantles the animatronics They only seem to "activate" when Shadow Freddy starts luring them, in these minigames. >and why would he return at all when it would only raise suspicions on him It's an abandoned pizzeria, i dont think people are gonna question some dude fucking around in a trashed building outside of "wonder if he's selling drugs or something". Assuming it's raining outside, i dont think many people WOULD be outside, and that also assuming it's in a more populated urban area... Additionally, suspicions of what, exactly? Looting at worst, like the people that rip copper out of abandoned buildings to sell off? It's possibly there *was* only one "trip" outside, but he likely left at LEAST once.
Elizabeth must be important to allow Michael and William what they wanted, their family back together. They both done very bad things, especially William, but Henry would know that William only did what he did (at least at first) to try and fix his family as he would know what it's like to lose a family. It was the gift William got from Henry for what little humanity he had left and Michael (while he wasn't extended to be there by Henry), he would recognise him and know that he wants to be with his family as well hence Henry’s speech to Michael specifically.
>but Henry would know that William only did what he did (at least at first) to try and fix his family as he would know what it's like to lose a family. I dont think William murdered Henry's daughter to "fix his family", that's definitely more spite/jealousy/hate/etc mixed in with being fairly unstable to begin with :V ESPECIALLY if William views CC's death as Henry's fault (it's his robot that killed his son, after all)
@@higueraft571 obviously he didn't kill Charlie for an experiment, he did so as "revenge" but Henry would at least understand why he did so and the good times they had before all the crazy stuff had to of ment something to the both of them as they both made their dreams a reality.
@@DJBurns-jq8mn >but Henry would at least understand why he did so That assumes Henry *does* understand why William did it. Infact, FNAF 6 implies Henry believes *William* "Struck First" with Charlie's death. I'm betting William's view is that *Henry* "Struck First" with CC, and never accepted any part of the blame. Probably something along the lines of "It's not my fault his head was stuck in there"...
Phantom Freddy is Withered Golden Freddy. Same color, same missing ear with wires, is called golden freddy in the files, and the other easter egg freddy is called shadow freddy.
If Cass is undoubtedly Golden Freddy, I don’t know why they would wanna follow William everywhere. Edit: I mean unless she wanted to haunt or kill him.
got a sudden thought after watching the video, can't really call this a theory since it probably has a lot of plot holes, just my idiotic rambling. enjoy, this comment is LONG. why do we even think that CC is a part of an Aftong family? What if the family from FNAF 4 is a completely different family that is not connected to the Aftons at all? Just think about it - the only thing hinting about Mike being that foxy bully is the "he fell into the Fredbear's mouth" joke from logbook, which could've been just a joke made by him after witnessing the bite. He's the son of the pizzeria's goddamn co-owner, he easily could've been in there somewhere during the bite. You can try to argue about Mike being in MM and as FNAF 4's protagonist connecting him to CC's family, but Dittophobia negates all of this. Plus Michael doesn't show any connections to the Foxy bully except being sarcastic(not a rare character trait tbh), and nothing shows him being a Foxy-fan. Even further, FFPS and Logbook depicts him as a bear character instead(in Logbook Foxy is rather connected to the Phonedude/Phoneguy, than Michael) Plus we don't have ANY mentions of CC being Afton's son in any of the games or books. Like he didn't exist at all. If CC's family is a whole different one from Aftons, then hypothetically we should get rid of the age limit for Foxybully(most depict him being like 16). If so, then we have a family with 3 kids - an unknown daughter, younger son(presumably still a child) and an older son(atleast a young teen, lets assume 13) Straight to the point - This family is the same one as the one from MM minigame(which happens around 1984 when CC died and Fredbear's closed, but 1985 MCI restaurant didn't open yet), and children of this specific family are being haunted by our man in golden rabbit fursuit. I don't know why he would be targeting this specific family(could be that they're Henry's sons and the daughter is Charlie but that would be TOO far fetched), but he does target them and it will make sense later in some of the animatronic behaviors. So, Afton is an insane madman who built a mini-experiment bunker(which will later expand into Circus Baby's Entertainment and Rental or whaterer FNAF SL's bunker name was) under the Fredbear's, stalks the closest family living to Fredbears and regurally kidnaps their youngest son during the night to run his mad experiments with gas and "nightmare" animatronics. According to Dittophobia and MM, dad of the family loves drinking and doesn't care about his children. 5 Days before the youngest son's birthday. Drunk dad locks son's door and leaves the house again. Then every day goes the same as we think but with an exception of Builles being Fritz, Jeremy, Susie, and Gabriel. Yes, the bullies are the MCI children here. The layout of children in Happiest Day and Bite of 83 minigames just made me think of this theory. CC here has a backstory of what he's scared of in this case - he's literally having "nightmares" every night about the animatronics. If Afton would be CC's dad, then he would've SOMEHOW react to seeing his child crying in the middle of the pizzeria in 3rd minigame, but instead the man in the shadows just keep doing his job(helping someone to get into the springlock suit) and closes back the door. I get that neither Afton is depicted as a guy who loves his family( coough cough physical abuse on Elizabeth in SE trilogy), but if he's trying to keep this "good family man with happy life and successful business" face in public(like the SE trilogy depicts), then he would've reacted somehow, he's in public place afterall, people would notice him ignoring his own child crying in the middle of pizzeria. Instead, he just ignores and closes the door. Bite happens, Michael was possibly in the pizzeria during that time(ha ha my dad is the owner of restaurant that means i can get food for free there, especially at parties), CC dies. MCI children are now traumatized for murdering CC(especially Fritz) and CC's soul is now haunting the Fredbear. Restaurant closed. Afton didn't expect that turn of events, his main target is now gone, and he has no one to experiment on. Or, he still does? Traumatized and weakened teen, older brother of his victim, who made fun of him. A perfect candidat for a new victim. Afton does his kidnap shenanigans again but with Fritz, and by that time, drunk father noticed that the child started disappearing, as he thinks "running away to that place again" with the place being JR's(Restaurant that replaced Fredbear's). He's too drunk to notice the footprints of springlock suit and the fact that the window is broken from outside. Its 1985, Fazbear's restaurant opens. Fritz and his friend group take a visit to the newly opened restaurant. Insane Furry decides to take his opportunity, lures in a group of traumatized 15 year olds into the backroom and murders them. He may have tortured each of these teens, not just Fritz and CC, he took something away from them(CC from Fritz and Dog from Susie, hinting that he may've done the same things to Jeremy and Gabriel) and lured them away by saying that he has this thing in the backroom(Like he did with Susie). WAIT SHI THAT ACTUALLY FITS THE "He took everything away from them, and lured them back into the same place with same tricks(or however Henry said that)" - He tortured each of these kids, kidnapped them, tested his gas on them, and took one thing away from them. Everything is witnessed by Fredbear suit laying in the same room, and an understanding comes to the child's mind - this is the man. The yellow rabbit that used to lure him, kidnap him, and take him straight to his nightmares. This man is responsible for everything that has happened to him. He has taken it too far. His brother wasn't the one guilty for his death, this man was. He'll do everything to turn his life into a living hell. CC, filled with hatred to this man becomes "the one you shouldn't have killed", The vengeful spirit. MCI kids on the other hand with the help of Charlie get attached to the classics. The fact that Afton terrorized Fritz and CC would also reflect on their animatronic behaviours - Foxy is acting way more agressive than the rest of the cast towards "Afton"(Keep in mind that Mike looks exactly like his Dad - their killer and torturer), and CC straight up saying "ITS ME"(Its me, the one you shouldn't have killed. Your first victim) Then the whole lore goes the same - Mike starts his own detective shenanigans, searches pizzerias and blah blah blah. One exception though - there's only one spirit in Golden Freddy(never understood goldenduo, there's no hints of second soul ANYWHERE except the allegory with fazbear fright and "altered" text from the logbook which is idiotic), which is CC. And children positioning in Happiest day minigame now makes sense - it is a mirror of BV's birthday, the one that was taken away from him. This way, we get character development for Vengeful spirit, remove tons of "retcons" with MCI children not being bullies and CC not being the main Fredbear spirit(There was only 1 retcon during FNAF 1-FFPS, and I heavily doubt that this is the one. So, as the FNAF1-4 lore heavily hints, MCI children are bullies and CC is the main Fredbear spirit.), and get rid of the unnessecary third wheel in Afton family. The only issues I see are: 1) Why would Afton target these kids specifically? 2) Susie's(Chica-mask bully) sprite in FNAF 4 looking much different from her FFPS design(could be excused with FNAF 4 design just being outdated, Scott really should update his older games to fit newer lore lol) 3) Afton lacks now the reasoning for his murders and experiments(though the whole BV's death being his devil trigger was already questionable, but experiments may be just testing the limits of Human's psyche, or his inventions. His motive for doing all of this may be just that he's an insane man, idk) 4) FFPS alleyway poster(Though, I think that this poster is rather hinting towards FFPS characters rather than afton family - Afton ofc being the man, his puppet being literally the Puppet - Charlie, clown is Elizabeth and bear with Ennard's party hat is Molten Freddy) that's it. hope you enjoyed my insane rambling. took 2 hours to type that lol. dunno how to call this "theory"(would call this hypothesis), BullyMCI? VengefulCC? dont care tbh. btw, watching you since "when is SL?" video, how tf i was not subscribed to you before
>Straight to the point - This family is the same one as the one from MM minigame(which happens around 1984 when CC died and Fredbear's closed, but 1985 MCI restaurant didn't open yet), and children of this specific family are being haunted by our man in golden rabbit fursuit. Oh god, this again. We see ONE set of Footprints, it's raining, and the child walks out willingly. It's also labeled "Later That Night" >and regurally kidnaps their youngest son during the night to run his mad experiments with gas and "nightmare" animatronics. Again, there is no struggle, missing footprints, the child is willingly going, and the Father doesnt question ANYTHING that'd be huge red flags, going "I'm gonna make his life suck once he gets back again". >Yes, the bullies are the MCI children here. ??? Susie is not a teenager, she's a child. At minimum all of them are in Puberty, 12-14 or so. They're taller than CC, who's probably 6-9, and shorter than the Adults. And we know the other victims were similarly children, especially with their depictions in the Books. >CC here has a backstory of what he's scared of in this case - he's literally having "nightmares" every night about the animatronics. This doesnt work with Scott's hint either. To quote: "What is seen in shadows is easily misunderstood in the mind of a child." There is no misunderstanding "this creepy fucker keeps kidnapping me, dosing me with Nightmare gas, and freaky ass monsters come after me" Specifically, why would his brother be specifying a "kiss". Why the easter egg of William putting an employee in a springlock suit? I suspect this is "he saw an employee being put in, and thought it was eating him". A Childish fear borne out of seeing something wrong in the shadows of an unlit storage closet. >but if he's trying to keep this "good family man with happy life and successful business" face in public(like the SE trilogy depicts), then he would've reacted somehow, he's in public place afterall, people would notice him ignoring his own child crying in the middle of pizzeria. Instead, he just ignores and closes the door. The public ALREADY knows his son is a "crybaby" afraid of nothing, and tease him about it. If you believe he's speaking through the Plushie, he's not only not helping, but actively *encouraging* Shit between the brothers, demonizing Michael. >Afton does his kidnap shenanigans again but with Fritz, and by that time, drunk father noticed that the child started disappearing, as he thinks "running away to that place again" with the place being JR's(Restaurant that replaced Fredbear's). He's too drunk to notice the footprints of springlock suit and the fact that the window is broken from outside. Right, mysteriously just... misses the Footprints next to the ones he did notice. And again, the footprints dont work here either, it doesnt make sense. Also why would a Bar be letting a child in. >THAT ACTUALLY FITS THE "He took everything away from them, and lured them back into the same place with same tricks(or however Henry said that)" - He tortured each of these kids, kidnapped them, tested his gas on them, and took one thing away from them. ??? "He took everything away from them" - Their Lives, killed innocent children long before their lives "began". "and lured them back into the same place with same tricks" - Lured them once with Spring Bonnie into the Saferoom, Lured them again (seemingly) with Shadow Freddy, using the Saferoom. >CC, filled with hatred to this man becomes "the one you shouldn't have killed", The vengeful spirit. And the other kids arent? >and "altered" text from the logbook which is idiotic The logbook involves three characters. Michael Afton (Red Text) Faded Text. and the Third, scrambling what's already there. We know one of them is "Cassidy", and they're speaking, stuff like "what do you remember?" and "It was for me", "I'm Scared", "I cant see", and so on. While it likely doesnt confirm GoldenDuo, you do have to wonder who these two are. One is thought to be MCI 5th (especially since Cassidy is from the same source as the other 4 kids' names), and the other CC. ADDITIONALLY, i'm going to drop another question: Where the hell is Charlie in your explanation/timeline? >Though, I think that this poster is rather hinting towards FFPS characters rather than afton family - Afton ofc being the man, his puppet being literally the Puppet - Charlie, clown is Elizabeth and bear with Ennard's party hat is Molten Freddy Why would The Puppet (who you never explained) be a "Little William" dressed in Purple? We know Michael is the spitting image of his father, and is also associated with Purple, but how's he a puppet? And the Bear with sharp claws and VERY sharp teeth, with his mouth wide open is... Ennard? Who is the MCI kids and not CC (The kid bitten by Fredbear and killed)??
@@xharerae So there's a limit, so this is a two-parter... Ok so, here's my explanation: Henry built Fredbear. Michael and his friends bully his younger brother, using his childish fear of the suits eating people, he decides to help his brother give Fredbear a "big kiss" by shoving him in it's mouth, having it "eat" him and making his brother shit his pants in the process. It goes south fast. Michael is grieving his brother's loss, his father is PISSED. He makes a downward spiral after his brother flatlined, and William isnt happy about it, alongside his son's loss. Shortly after CC's death, William begins asking Henry to watch his older son while he's at work (likely after the first breakout). Henry, not wanting to leave his daughter unsupervised, makes the Security Puppet and lets her stay at Fredbear's. After repeated Breakouts, William creates a Scarecrow to try and intimidate his son, and keep him from going... somewhere (Hospital? Where CC was bitten/died? Something else related to his brother?). Upon the events of Midnight Motorist, or "Later that Night", William is pulling out of Fredbear's when he sees Charlie. She's outside, nobody in sight, no Puppet in sight. William, likely not QUITE stable even in the best of times, bitter at *Henry's* creation taking his son away (with him likely not seeing it as his fault), and Angry... He murders Charlie in a hot-blooded murder, and quickly dumps her body in the Alleyway before speeding off. As he comes home, Michael has run away, AGAIN. Henry tells him to go easy on Michael, but William ignores him. He sees the Scarecrow has been knocked down (into the bushes), and plans to punish Michael when he gets back. Presumably, the FNAF 4 house is built, and the SL bunker extended from it's former Fredbear's size, and the gas(?) hooked up. He torments Michael, both out of sick pleasure/vengeance, research, and to "mold" him. Some time after MM/Charlie's Death, he notices the Puppet acting *odd.* It KNOWS him, it's Charlie. His impulsive murder just hit a Jackpot of Legendary proportions. Immortality, with hard proof right in front of him, something an untold number of people have died and killed for the merest whiff of... He begins hypothesizing and theorizing about it, trying to figure out how it happened. He decides to do it again, with a decent sample size later on. 1985 rolls around, he dons the Spring Bonnie suit, and lures 5 unsuspecting children into the Saferoom, jamming them all into the Classic suits one by one, each a brutal gruesome death. All but one at least, Cassidy. Her suit is much worse... He shoves her into Fredbear, and triggers a Springlock Failure, impaling her in it instantly, leading to one of the most brutal deaths imaginable... This is the First thing he did to her. After the MCI had occurred, the children were reported missing, and the MCI Location shut down. William had his confirmation. The animatronics, formerly lifeless, were now animated as well, Possessed by the Undead... Taking this in stride, he began working on the Funtimes (or perhaps finishing them, if he began on them before the MCI), and opened Circus Baby's Pizza World a year later... only for Elizabeth to die day one, and for it to be shut down. With that plan shelved for a time, he instead turns towards his Old Fashioned way to get Remnant. Kill More Children. HOWEVER, Spring Bonnie is trapped in the MCI location still, locked in the now-abandoned saferoom. ...good thing the Fredbear costume is still around. He kills yet more children, this time wearing Cassidy the entire time. This is the Second thing he did to her. The FNAF 2 location is shut down during the Investigation. His son, Michael, is also present at the location. Either serving obediently, or attempting to find evidence of his Father's crimes, while only truly dancing on the strings set out already. FNAF 2's toys are destroyed, while the remaining Animatronics are held and refurbished, william isnt able to get ahold of them yet. Once again with FNAF 1 Michael is hired, fired (again) for fucking with the Animatronics, and rubbing himself down with Corpse Goo practically. Once FNAF 1's location closes, William breaks in, and begins dismantling the FNAF 1s one by one, dumping the Remnant into the now re-used Funtimes and other Experiments. However, when he went to retrieve the Fredbear suit (if that was his purpose), he gets cornered by his Victims. He hides in the Spring Bonnie suit (similarly to FNAF 2's mask mechanic) and dies. TOYSHNK/Cassidy not letting him go, not after what he did to her. Making him suffer her fate is just the beginning... SL happens, Elizabeth and the MCI kids escape, Michael gets scooped, dies, re-possesses himself, and regenerates thanks to Light Remnant, etc etc FNAF 3 rolls around, the souls still trapped in the FNAF 1 souls, alongside CC being in Gfreddy/Fredbear, are released in Happiest Day, while the Puppet sticks around to handle the remaining mess. The FNAF 3 location is burned by Michael after William was hauled out of the "Softlock" area he was stuck in (cant move, Animatronic isnt meant to be moving around in there, nowhere "valid" to step) and stuck on display. Henry creates Lefty, traps Charlie, sets up the FNAF 6 location, and "calls" everyone there. Michael happening to be there by chance/choice. Henry burns the place after trapping them there, Michael escapes, and the place is sealed off and buried.
Still confused with the Crying Child, as unlike the FNAF 1 Souls, we never got his happiest day (FNAF World), personally, CC story doesn't seem over yet. (We have no name fully comfirmed, any comfirmation on where he was in SP or even why steelwool been posting stuff that somewhat connets to CC)
@@higueraft571 Because in the drowning ending, the text form FNAF 3 (happiest day) was out of the screen view (which scott kept out of view in the 2.0 update) & we still don't know what ending of FNAF World is the true ending (as there are some that would change the outcome)
@@sky8ash >& we still don't know what ending of FNAF World is the true ending Pretty likely the "The pieces are in place" ending. Also we see it in 3. The MCI kids are split between Shell and Endo, half going to the Funtimes, half remain. CC, attached to Fredbear, has his happiest day with the Shell Kids and Charlie, all but Charlie Passing On. Cassidy, Charlie, and the Other Half are still In Play. You now have Happiest Day occur, explain CC's lack of presence, and how the kids are in the Funtimes, all at once.
@@higueraft571 The pieces are in place ending is the Clock ending / spirit trophy (which is different to the Drowning ending and thus No Happiest Day for him) Crying Child being attatched to Fredbear doesn't make sense when cosiding some stuff. 1) He was still alive after the bite & was moved somewhere else (due to the beeeeeeeeep, which could be a heartbeat or something else) 2) If we are the crying child in FNAF World, then it very odd that we spifically can't use Fredbear for most cutsceens (Due to the Universe ending) 3) Odd Hissing sounds (simular to HW2 Trailer) can be heard in the background of some of FNAF World OST 4) If we are the Crying Child in FNAF World, Fredbear tell us in the Clock Ending this: "We are still your friends. "Do you believe that?" "The Pieces are in place for you." "All you have to do is find them" "Rest." Telling Crying Child to find them but also to rest doesn't even make sense if he is dead. "You now have Happiest Day occur, explain CC's lack of presence, and how the kids are in the Funtimes, all at once." FNAF 3's happiest day spefically show 6 souls, Charlie (Puppet), Susie (Chica), Jeremy (Bonnie), Fritz (Foxy) & the 6th kid, who get's a Golden (lighter gray) mask which would aline up with the Give Gift, Give Life minigame's 5th kid, would make more sense to be Cassidy. It also doesn't make sense how the Kids Souls are in the funtimes anitronics, exspevisily if SL take place before FNAF 1 due to Bonnie's design (8-Bit having Buttons & FNAF 1 having none), we also know that they were dismanitle in the FNAF 1 location due to the map layout.
@@sky8ash >He was still alive after the bite & was moved somewhere else (due to the beeeeeeeeep, which could be a heartbeat or something else) Fair point, although evidently you dont really NEED to be in contact with something to possess it. The Real Jake involves Jake possessing Simon, despite being not close enough, if i remember right? >Telling Crying Child to find them but also to rest doesn't even make sense if he is dead. Except, if CC *is* being spoken to there, and is still present. They clearly *arent* dead yet, like the Others arent. Well, they ARE dead, but they're not *gone...* Generally, it's telling them to Pass On, have their Happiest Day and Rest. >FNAF 3's happiest day spefically show 6 souls, Charlie (Puppet), Susie (Chica), Jeremy (Bonnie), Fritz (Foxy) & the 6th kid, who get's a Golden (lighter gray) mask which would aline up with the Give Gift, Give Life minigame's 5th kid, would make more sense to be Cassidy. Except that kinda means Happiest Day *CANT* happen. Cassidy never rests, she never Passes On, she's still here even in UCN onward. With CC being the subject, Happiest Day can still happen, and it makes sense/has an impact. >It also doesn't make sense how the Kids Souls are in the funtimes anitronics, exspevisily if SL take place before FNAF 1 due to Bonnie's design (8-Bit having Buttons & FNAF 1 having none), we also know that they were dismanitle in the FNAF 1 location due to the map layout. SL definitely takes place after FNAF 1. Afton Robotics has been consumed by Fazbear Ent, Baby i believe mentioned they'd been down there for a while, and have made several unsuccessful Escape attempts. And we know there ARE children in the Funtimes, and that Henry refers to them as if they are the MCI kids (how he lured them to the saferoom, again, and took what life they had, again.) I will admit, i'm... doubtful the buttons mean they were: - Withereds from FNAF 2 but seemingly repaired (none are fucked up like they're meant to be, Bonnie has both arms and a face, for example) - Dismantled by William - Refurbished with endos replaced - After FNAF 1 they're... dismantled AGAIN? - ??? - Phone Dude obtains the shells left lying around - Happiest Day happens - Fire There's also the question of why is FNAF 1 boarded up and abandoned too, if this is prior to 1/the place shutting down?
I always figured "lure them all back" was just "put all the robo zombies that I know of to rest".
I always think it is just that too
Same. I see his point, since Henry is definitely speaking only about the MCI kids the entire time, and then just kinda pivots to everybody else. But I think it makes sense if he was already putting together his big plan, as the ultimate goal is to free the kids and Charlie.
@damkylan3 Henry does mention William and Charlie in the insanity speech, so "all of them" refers to Will, Charlie and the missing children.
@@xcmledder3420 and elizabeth.
The souls don't have to match suit gender like Charlie and the Marionette. IF there is a soul in Ballora, it could be anyone.
There are even some suggestions that Freddy can be possessed by a girl
He hides in the female bathroom in FNaF1 and his laugh is named "girl laugh" in the files
@@CinemaSans Gabriel is a boys name
@@mcnuggwtscreationsGabriella
@@gizkma2303 No one EVER called freddy's soul gabriella, just gabriel. Stop trying to change things just because why the hell not. If the soul WAS a girl, and WAS named gabriella, then everyone would call freddy a she and name the soul gabriella. But everyone calls freddy a HIM and HIS name is GABRIEL. Even scott calls freddy a boy.
The remnant does not work the same as animatronic soul possession, it's not like taking Freddy's remnant and putting it on Funtime Freddy, it's more like taking everything out of the animatronics and then depositing it in the scooper where it would mix with the remnant of other souls, which means that all the funtime are possessed by all the MCI kids but they are fragmented into different animatronics and also part of them is inside Michael, and the remaining remainder is in the scooper
and this is why we don't stop once we think we have everything figured out, only to ignore some weird details. this needs to happen for more things, and you've proven it with this theory.
This is really good, I always wondered how Golden Freddy's spirit (or spirits depending on what you believe) could be in Molten Freddy when it doesn't look like William managed to get him in Follow Me. Adding the idea of GF clinging to Springtrap/Scraptrap fits really nicely alongside MoltenMCI
Well, this video is just how I believed fnaf 6 happened, and it makes sense
Why isn't this default fnaf 6 theory?
quite interesting...
though honestly? i genuinely do think that when henry said "all of them" he really just meant any robot still involved in the whole. shit going on. aka marionette, springtrap, and moltenfreddy+scrap baby
You can also said that when the Funtimes merge into Ennard Baby got remmanant of the MCI and when they split ScrapBaby have remmanant of the MCI, giving Henry a motive to call Baby to FFPS
I think Shattered Elizabeth could easily work with this theory, if instead of having one kid per funtime animatronic, we have them + Elizabeth be split across the three. She was put back together, though not alone. They are still in the masks, but she is fully whole.
Admittedly, i doubt Elizabeth was split between the full cast, and them with her. I suspect Elizabeth possessed Baby and ONLY Baby, while William injected the Four Kids (after being mixed together) into the other four Funtimes (Five if we count Funtime Chica, maybe?)
Sire Squawks making fire thumbnails as usual.
P.S.: The idea of the MCI Kids consistently possesing the same character, except for Susie, is kinda funny to me.
I can just imagine the other kids saying "I'm not a girl I'm not taking that"
@@bricktonmcbricks3969 Do NOT tell Jeremy about Bon-Bon's page in the Character Encyclopedia. 😪
I actually really love this theory. I actually feel like this one has a shot at being correct. It doesn't even do anything crazy, just organizes things we already know in a way that makes more sense. Like, we know Golden Freddy latches on to William already and we know all five spirits are there when he gets springlocked. So the idea that Michael burns part of them in Fnaf 3 and the bits used for Molten Freddy get burned in Fnaf 6 works pretty good IMO. It's a little less soul splitty and a little more "you didn't quite finish the job in Fnaf 3."
I mean, it IS soul splitting. The souls are both in the endos *and* shells, and are split in half. One is present for Happiest Day, the other isnt.
Michael doesn't appear in FNAF 3
@@Emanuel-qo1jw *Technically,* the only time he EVER appears 100% is in FNAF SL. Dont know if he's even named or such in 6.
Yet we know he's been in more than just SL
@@higueraft571 Logbook shows that Michael is Mike Schmidt, and has character lines showing that Michael is the protagonist in fnaf 6
Mike in fnaf 3 It has never been confirmed and is a theory
@@Emanuel-qo1jw Michael Afton is the protagonist of Fnaf 3.
While I do feel like I just stumbled into the wrong classroom and have no idea what the teacher's talking about because I'm not even supposed to be here, it's not too hard to get my head around the idea that not all the souls are in the same animatronics, so Cassette Man needed to round them all up before setting them free.
(The wrong classroom meaning I'm not a theorist and usually shrug off anything that gets too confusing)
Dude I swear if this guy thought of "sans is ness" first I feel like I wouldve actually believed him
I love this so much. Golden Freddy's exclusion from Follow Me always irked me, and him latching onto William in that way is so perfect. This fits so many things together aaaaa
2:07 "ballora would be Susie I guess cause....girl...???" LMAO I don't know why that parts so funny
What supports this theory is that the logbook has images of the FNaF 3 office, implying that FNaF 3 is when the logbook takes place. I really like this theory.
I always find that people forget that scrap baby has the MCI’s remnant too, and how even if you have all animatronics besides scrap baby in Pisa sim, Henry still doesn’t pull fire and says “all in one place”, so scrap baby must be important in some way.
7:08 Oh, damn. That would actually kinda answer the "that night, there was a knock on the door" ending of that story that has eluded me for years. Like, what the hell happened? lol Was it the burglar, or did the five kid abomination come back to get him? Well, it being a parallel for Ennard would serve as a bit of a connection to the non-canon ending of SL, where Ennard drops by Michael's for a visit.
I also love this recontextualizing of the events of Follow Me. It's always bothered me how William apparently took all the endos, melted them down, and then came back for some reason. But him coming back and thinking he can do the same to GF, which ends up biting him big time is a good way to fix that. Or even just wanting to pick up his ol' Spring Bonnie costume. Either way, it's a decent explanation that I just never considered before.
I have seen a solid number of theory's as of late and with each one I've tried to go in and try to really figure out where they do and don't work and this is the first theory in a while where I really think you might have gotten it. The only things that really feel iffy are, as pointed out, candy cadet and 'putting baby back together' but honestly neither of those have made much sense and it does still have some weird writing issues; there's a lot happening off screen and Williams actions are questionable but I cant really fault the theory for that
I was so confused when you said Elizabeth could've been low priority until I thought about it. BABY is important, Elizabeth is just there. As the books show Charlie could be BABY and nothing would really change about the animatronic. But an in-game realization is if Charlie died first then Henry would see Elizabeth as "Karma" and wouldn't care about setting her free. Which is so crazy to think about since his hatred of William is so strong he would rather off the man than let him live and suffer.
I really like this theory, and I think it can be extended to another widespread theory that never quite felt right to me. GoldenDuo.
Cassidy is the fifth MCI kid, attached to first Golden Freddy, and then Springtrap, and orchestrates UCN. Bite Victim is attached to *Michael*, haunting him, causing the "it's me" hallucinations, altering text in his logbook, and tormenting him with the same nightmares BV suffered. (Maybe. The scarecrow gas from dittophobia complicates this.)
BV passed away in a hospital, with Michael being one of the last people to talk to him. All of the other possessions in the games involve much more direct contact with the animatronic they go on to haunt. Elizabeth gets grabbed by Baby, the bodies of the MCI kids (including Cassidy) are physically stuffed in the animatronics, the Puppet lies on top of Charlie's body for who knows how long, and William. Well.
This isn't perfect, it doesn't explain why Cassidy has more supernatural powers than the others, nor how or why theyre TOYSNHK. The different Golden Freddy designs also throw a wrinkle into this. We could say that Withered GF was the suit Cassidy was stuffed in (seen in Give Gifts, and because BV has no means or motive to attack Jeremy or Fritz). Golden Freddy in FNAF 1 is entirely hallucinations from BV, taking Freddy's current appearance and altering it like the text in the logbook, adding the message it's me... except then what's Cassidy doing? And in the oft forgotten between night cutscenes in FNAF 2, we seem to be the spirit haunting Freddy, and we see FNAF 1 Golden Freddy, with no Michael in sight. Then we get into the whole weirdness with UCN, where using the death coin on *Withered* GF makes FNAF 1 GF jumpscare us... except he has a purple hat and tie like Fredbear? And the hidden ending cutscene has FNAF 1 GF twitching in the darkness... with a black hat and bowtie again.
Honestly Golden Freddy's different designs are such a headache to deal with no matter what, since it implies that post FNAF 2, an entirely shelved animatronic is refurbished for their last restaurant running on a shoestring budget, but is then shelved again completely before the events of FNAF 1. It gets even worse if that suit is also Fredbear, and also a springlock...
And to think, this is just more radioactive fallout from FNAF 4 and dream theory...
Ok so it's literally 1 in the morning here so I haven't really thought this through but BV haunting Michael ties into Happiest Day, FNAF World, and the other FNAF 3 minigames in interesting ways. Shit, maybe even the way you access those mini games? Keypad wall tiles being diagetic may be too gigabrained though...
I was going to say that under this theory the Phantoms in FNAF 3 were a sort of mini UCN created by BV for Michael, and that the Shadow animatronics were also made by BV, except all of those are all based on FNAF 2 characters/designs (except chica), and I really don't think Jeremy is another one of Michaels psdudonyms.
@@astrid9920 >All of the other possessions in the games involve much more direct contact with the animatronic they go on to haunt.
To be fair, in The Real Jake, i'm pretty sure Jake possesses "Simon" when he eventually died in the Hospital, and i dont think that involved direct contact at all.
Infact, there's technically even LESS reason to possess it directly, aside from being what his father talked to him through. Compared to CC who got chomped by Fredbear in a very very close contact.
>This isn't perfect, it doesn't explain why Cassidy has more supernatural powers than the others, nor how or why theyre TOYSNHK.
This is actually pretty simple, you just need to read between the lines a tiny bit with FNAF 1 and 2 lore nearly exclusively.
You can probably figure it out yourself, though i could definitely explain it if you really needed, but i'll ask this question:
*What was Cassidy put inside?*
>where using the death coin on Withered GF makes FNAF 1 GF jumpscare us... except he has a purple hat and tie like Fredbear? And the hidden ending cutscene has FNAF 1 GF twitching in the darkness... with a black hat and bowtie again.
Do note, the purple hat/tie are *glowing* purple in this instance, they're most likely still "black" normally.
One of the most convincing theories I've heard recently.
I went into this pretty skeptical tbh but honestly you've convinced me (except for maybe the Candy Cadet stories because I think those are just about FNAF 6 and the burning but that doesn't affect the theory)
This theory certainly fits better than normal Molten MCI.
Though nothing against you, narratively, I still don't like any version where the Funtimes are possessed (at least partially) by the MCI kids. Especially Follow Me implies that all of the scenes happen on one night. Because it is raining in all of the scenes, and it would be weird if Afton either only dismantled one animitronic per day, or dismantled 4 of them, left, and came abother rainy night to dismantle Golden Freddy.
Another thing people don't seem to mention is the ruined animitronic parts in Follow Me. How that none of the pieces are ever missing, they just stay there throughout every cutscene (even the final one where Afton geta springlocked). If Afton really was taking the animitronics' parts to use their Remnant and putting them into the Funtimes, then wouldn't *some of the parts be missing*?
If Remnant was extracted from the animitronics, then that would require Afton taking some of the parts away to his base. But in Follow Me, none of the scrapped parts are ever missing. They stay there until Afton get springlocked and locked in ths safe room. And I don't think he could really build the Funtimes after that point.
Most of the endoskeleton is not seen lying on the ground in the minigames implying that William took them, also the Insanity Ending implies that Follow Me is related to putting the MCI in the Funtimes, listen to the ending again
@@vortigaunt_gaming but the endoskeleton is also not seen when Afton is directly taking the animitronics apart during the minigame. If the broken pieces we see *really* are just the casing, we should be able to see the endo bare when Afton takes apart the animitronics at the end of each scene.
@@tinaherr3856 It's just a minigame bro, it's simplified, and at the time Scott wasn't thinking about Sister Location when he made it, the story changed
@@vortigaunt_gaming then by that logic, you can't use the explanation "Most of the endoskeleton is not seen lying on the ground in the minigames implying that William took them" .
@@tinaherr3856 and by using that logic your point also doesnt make sense lol
I think the issues that I have with the MCI kids possessing the funtimes is 1. I doubt William would be stupid enough to make the robots that were designed to kill kids have said kids possess said robots and kill him so I feel they just contain souls rather than just possessing them, 2. There are 5 funtimes with baby having Elizabeth’s soul meaning that one of the MCI kids has to be in Funtime Chica who’s rented out during the events of sister location (Maybe Henry put her in the simulated Pizzaera to make sure any loose ends were gone?) and 3. We don’t know where fallow me takes place and considering William didn’t take the parts that are still possessed as of Fnaf back to his lab for extraction, I can’t really buy that factor being in place, still a good theory regardless.
Yeah, same here! I will never like molten MCI (for the same reasons), but the problem is thant when you don't like it is not like you have that many options to believe besides that, in my opinion my favorite alternative is rockstar MCI, but is not the best and there is not much else, is it?
The remnant doesn't work like that, it's not like taking Freddy's remnant and putting it on Funtime Freddy, it's more like taking everything out of the animatronics and then depositing it in the scooper where it would mix with the remnant of other souls, which means that all the funtime are possessed by all the MCI kids but they are fragmented into different animatronics and also part of them is inside Michael, and the remaining remainder is in the scooper
@@rustyvull-i68 the only animatronic rockstar that matters is Lefty, the other rockstars are random unimportant characters
William injected a little of the remnant/soul of each mci victim into funtime (with the exception of baby and funtime Chica)
It's as if each funtime had a piece of the soul of each mci victim
>I doubt William would be stupid enough to make the robots that were designed to kill kids have said kids possess said robots and kill him so I feel they just contain souls rather than just possessing them,
We know in FNAF 3 that the Programming WILL Override whatever they attempt, they possess the Animatronics, but they're still puppeteering a movement-capable doll until it decides to act on it's own.
William CANNOT resist following the lures in 3, because Springbonnie is looking for children to entertain.
Similarly, the FNAF 1s CANNOT enter the saferooms, because their programming forbids it.
Infact, it's likely William couldnt escape because he was INSIDE an animatronic that was trapped there. Like one of the self-driving cars if you drew a "no pass" symbol around it, with no way out... until someone manually drags it out, like Phone Dude for example.
William could probably make something to *keep* them docile.
Either programming-wise, or simply the Controlled Shocks, which we know makes them back off (AR + 6)
>Maybe Henry put her in the simulated Pizzaera to make sure any loose ends were gone?
We dont really know if Henry is doing anything yet. Although if i remember right, you can buy her in 6.
>We don’t know where fallow me takes place
Sometime after FNAF 1 shut down, decently short-term after FNAF 1, maybe a few months?
>and considering William didn’t take the parts that are still possessed as of Fnaf back to his lab for extraction,
We never see what happens to the endos exactly, though we know ONLY Shells were recovered from FNAF 1's location, alongside said shells being strewn across the floor in Follow Me.
I always thought Molten Freddy was brought in because Funtime Freddy could have leftover remnant from kids he kidnapped/killed, so he was killed in the fire to set it free
This video is actually really well-done, really nice seeing different perspectives on older games
I think you're misreading the line "bring them ALL back" I think what Henry is talking about is not all of the MCI kid's spirts but rather all of the remaining still haunted animatronics Ie being: Baby, SpringTrap, The Puppet, and honestly molten fredddy is just weird but again I think over the years we've kinda started to ignore the DCI or MCI 2 whatever you want to call it that took place in fnaf two that caused the day shift to open up for Jeremy to end up getting chomped during the final birthday party scheduled before the fnaf 2 building closed and honestly it kinda makes more sense for the spirits to be from the DCI and not the MCI as well all the spirits of the mci should already be set free if fnaf 3's good ending should be belived
Happiest day chronologically is after FNAF 6, so much so that in the minigame Charlotte Emily soul rests.
moltenDCI is illogical because it is always said and shown that the mci souls are somewhere in the pizza place. henry in the insanity ending mentions that the animatronics fell into a trap by William Afton (william just made a trap for the classic animatronics) in addition to henry explicitly saying in the canon ending "it's time to rest, for you and for those you carried in your arms " (referring to the 5 mci victims) and the lorekeeper ending of fnaf 6 explicitly shows charlotte graves and the graves of mci victims
Henry literally makes reference to the MCI throughout his entire insanity ending speech alongside William and Charlotte. So no, it's really not misreading.
I absolutely love this theory, it seems to solve all the problems of the other interpretations (which is pretty rare in modern fnaf)
This theory has made the most sense in my mind since I went down this rabbithole of a plot inconsistency I never even noticed, the MCI victims clinging to both Afton & Molten Freddy makes the most sense and I feel that is what both book series was trying to nudge us towrds. However everything about FFPS' story and the crumbs it gives us makes a lot more sense when you consider the scrapped Scrap Chica that was teased. It would make Susie's spotlight in fruity maze less out of place and fill in the gaps of Henry's speeches. Its such a strange exclusion once you realize how much nicer of a conclusion FFPS would be with her.
There is another theory out there that supports this one, it analyzes Scraptrap's design & the stitchwraith stingers to claim some of the more out of place almost Freddy-like elements are to hint at Cassidy/Golden Freddy's spirit latching onto Afton. These two ideas together make the conclusion much smoother, even with the removal of Scrap Chica.
Also, I think the story “You’re the band” explains how Cassidy bonded to William. In fnaf 2, it was said a yellow suit was used to lure and kill the dci. Most people think it’s springbonnie, but it’s actually more likely it was golden freddy. And we learned from the story a soul can bond to a living person if the suit was worn by a living person.
Michael got the Golden Freddy remnant. It's how Baby keeps her promise to him. It's the reason he rises up when she chants 'you won't die' over and over from the sewers. The scooper blueprints literally state that every time the scooper arm swings it injects remnant from it's reservoir into whatever it collides with. Mike was the last thing it was used on. He stays behind to surrender the remnant he was afflicted with, if he doesn't Golden Freddy can't move on and UCN doesn't occur. It's literally that simple. Mike would have no reason to stay and would have taken Henry up on his planned escape route, if not for the fact that he was afflicted with remnant in order to be there in the first place. Mike was scooped canonically, literally the ONLY other ending to sister location is called the 'fake ending'. There's no escaping him carrying the missing remnant, it's a fact of the games from Sister location - pizzeria simulator. Also the OG book trilogy parallels it through Charlie's friend Carlos, who thanks to William Afton is forcibly injected with the same remnant Mike was in sister location, except the spirit it belonged to wanted Carlos to and I quote 'have a nice life' and goes on to say 'you can give it back to me the next time you see me.' implying the two would meet again at the end of Carlos's natural life.
Also there is a theoretical way for spring trap to get out of fnaf 3 even if the doors are sealed (the bathrooms since pretty much all buildings require one) he could run to the bathroom turn on the taps and go prone against the floor (this guarantees the fire won't reach him till the floor collapses and roof caves in (SL custom night Cutscene shows him rising from rubble) and that cave in would likely trigger a temporary exposure to fire but not long enough to reach remnant neutralization (plus it would cause the plastic shell of his suit to expand and bubble and can lead to pizza sim)
There IS another alternative: Fire doesnt destroy Remnant, there's more evidence hinting towards this than for it destroying Remnant, HOWEVER...
It does stun Remnant, rendering it inert as long as heat is applied.
Springtrap is lying on the ground, and seemingly "waking up", he's also been Damaged. As if he'd been heated up enough to render Remnant Inert, knocking him Out.
Controlled Shocks (SL, 6, AR) all stun the Animatronics. Why? It's briefly heating them up considerably. Hot enough to at the very least, for flesh, leave burn marks throughout.
You cant be aggressive if you're blacking out every time you look particularly menacing.
7:34 What did it mean even _before_ FNaF 6?
in my case I've been questioning the springlocked moment, i can't stop thinking that it wasn't random
The only issue would be truly explaining why Scrap Baby needed to be there, perhaps she ended up taking one of the MCI victims when she split from Enard? Just spit balling here, idk if any evidence would back it up
Or simply she's another part of the Shitshow that William Made, to clean up. Like Charlie is.
Wait, hold on, this makes a lot of sense and fixes the plot holes, so we'll! Well done, dude!
Can we call it MoltenTrapMCI?
That was the original name I was going for before MoltenMCI Alter-S.
Honestly, I’ve never understood the concept of “Remnant” and how William could’ve somehow harvested it; if Remnant can be destroyed by the kinda heat produced by a building fire, as Henry seemed to think in Pizzeria Simulator, then there’s no way Afton could melt down the endoskeletons without destroying the Remnant attached to them. And if Remnant CAN survive the kinda temperatures needed to melt metal, then Henry’s plan was doomed to fail, and it’s unlikely anybody’s spirit was freed from their metal prisons.
The assumption of the community (based on the novels) is that it’s a certain amount of heat. Given in a few renders we can see that molten Freddy is literally a bit molten with red glowing ooze dripping off of it, this is a little canon to the games.
What about the DCI, were their souls released in the fnaf 3 fire too? Why did we never geat a satisfying conclusion to them on screen at any point?
Presumably, they never possessed anything. Also FNAF 2 reasons.
@@higueraft571 knowing how fnaf works it's basically impossible for someone to die and not possess anything. Save them heavily implies they possess the toys
@@br2891 Except how DID they possess the toys? What would the "Something new, something borrowed" mean? The Toys dont quite seem as... stuffable, too.
There's also the question of the Multiple Simultaneous Springlock Failures where, if someone DID die, where did they go? Same for Phone guy. He died *inside* a Freddy suit to stuffing, yet no Ghost Guy seemingly.
As far as we see, the DCI doesnt really relate to the Toys. Especially since they act possessed before any kids WERE killed...
Scott forgot about em 🙃
You know, I've had the idea that Molten Freddy is the MCI+BV (because I'm a GoldenDuo believer) but Cassidy is also inside Springtrap at the same time. Somehow this much more sensible possibility never once occurred to me, good theory!
As a side note, idk if it's really in character for BV to latch on to Afton, but I guess you could explain it as "Cassidy's there and she's his friend" or something
Honestly, if there's the Shell and Endo MCI kids, the former likely Passed with CC during Happiest Day.
THJS IS NEARLY EXACTLY WHAT J BELIEVED, IM SO HAPPY A SOMEWHAT BIG THEORIST PICKED UP ON THIS STUFF
“Big theorist” 12k but sure
@siresquawks your channel isn't the biggest but I'd still consider you one of the bigger theorist since you're well regarded and your channel is pretty much focused on fnaf content.
@@siresquawks bigger than mine
The Funtime animatronics don’t have individual souls in them. Afton fused all of the remnant metal shit of the MCI animatronics together, which was then used for the Funtimes. So TL;DR is each Funtime has a part of all four souls.
First off amazing take on molten mci also I totally got caught off guard with the digimon reference with alter s
8:01 omnimon/omegamon naming scheme lol
I love this so much, it really does fit extremely well!
Holy shit, a digimon reference.
This bird thing rocks!
Where is the crying child during all of this? In molten freddy?
The *VOID*
I really liked the wrap up, great logic, and hilarious. Love your videos, and they are only getting better! But you have been uploading a crapton lately, take time for yourself too, yeah?
Now, as I see it, and feel quite (suprisingly) confident in:
MCI- Charlie ("For those that you have carried in your arms" -Henry to Charlie)
DCI- William (I personally think they are the phantoms which are bound to Springtrap as shown in VR. I don't know how/when exactly this happened as the canon is never consistent with the Toys. I can think of two ways with minimal 'jumps' though so I'm okay with it.)
Scrapbaby... as Scrapbaby
Molten Freddy as experiement victims, but also he says some things he shouldn't know... so family friends? I feel like the souls inside once knew Mike and BV. Which segways to my final and most confident deduction-
Mike brings in at least one (perhaps two according to Security Logbook, maybe the other was a free roaming spirit) that stayed with him after Ennard left to keep him alive after the Scuping. This is when they are all writing in the Logbook during FNaF 3.
This contextualizes memory sharing, as one of them gave a memory to save Mike, and Mike helps in turn with Happiest Day. Or perhaps it is closer to straight possession, but whoever was with Mike found the trail of crumbs and reunited with their friends. (Spicy take here but imo it was his baby brother, Golden Freddy, which is why Goldie is no longer a threat at all in 3 forward.)
Also it makes it a story of forgiveness (minus TOYSNHK which I won't touch here) which I quite rather find more palliable.
I liked your “Rockstar MCI” more but this theory is still pretty good.
Can someone answer this for me? Henry said he needed to "lure them all back". "Back" not "here". He said "back" as if they had been there before. Anybody could know what he meant by this?
I think he just means “lure them all back here.”
At least Lefty was previously there , since Henry built it. If fnaf6 is in fredbear’s, then William and maybe Elizabeth were there as well in the 80s.
There is a theory that the FNAF 6 location is a rebranded Fredbear's family diner and that the area the Mimic chases you in in ruin is a part of Circus Baby's, if that theory is correct then it could be because William and Michael have both been to Fredbear's family diner and Circus Baby's, Molten Freddy and Scrap Baby would have both been to Circus Baby's which would have been under the FNAF 6 location and Lefty by being the Puppet would have been there before because that would be where she died.
the fnaf 6 location is the original freddy fazbear's pizza, the alleyway is exactly the same@@BonnieThebunny7051
1:08 Likely off-topic, but the room looks like a kid's head. Puddles for eyes. The 4 kids at the bottom as teeth for the skull. The arcade cabinets seem to be where some of the eye puddles come from - maybe indicating a bleeding head wound? I dunno what it would mean beyond "this is the room they died in" but I just friggin noticed that.
What was flawed about Michael plan to burn frights
Springtrap never escaped, the fire failed just like with Henry
Well, it's the difference between letting flaming debris collapse and putting someone in a blazing oven with steel walls they can't get out of. Henry's is a suped up more extreme version.
this is the first theory of yours i really agree with it just makes sense. the only thing that seems odd is the lack of hints towards Cassidy being bound to William outside of a parallel with the man in room 108 which definitely links more to custom night than pre FNAF 6. i think this gives me a similar feeling you describe near the end. i mean i still would argue for Toy MCI (toy parts would be much more accessible than the FNAF 1 ones and it means William does not have to leave and come back.)
This got me thinking. It is a speculation, but what if golden Freddy was in the safe room. I mean what if the golden bunny suit (at least the lower half) is actually the golden Freddy suit.
Maybe that can justify how Afton survived till frights. Also kinda explain how golden Freddy latches itself onto Afton.
Okay. Their is one thing I want to mention that I guess you could overlook with this, but how and why does molten Freddy know their are multiple members of the Afton family there? I mean one of his voice lines is “one big happy family”, unless he’s just referring to how the MCI kids have been together for so long they’ve kinda became like a family, but idk, and how does BV fit into all of this? That’s like one piece of this I don’t understand, because if he is being lugged around in afton by Cassidy also don’t you think he’d have some kind of fight with Cassidy trying to justify his father? I mean yea he could know his father is a killer, but like, William is still his father and he could genuinely love him to a degree despite the monster William is, Idk, I’m just tossing out ideas and thoughts, but if you could can you really try and figure out how BV fits into every other piece of the lore? Because BV doesn’t fit cleanly in almost anything yet for him most likely being the CATALYST that starts Williams murder spree and mikes search for redemption, he feels like he should be more important yet since basically Fnaf SL with the 1983 code he’s been largely overlooked and forgotten, I just wish we could answer how BV fits in with everything else post bite of 83, unless he’s just somehow attached himself to Michael like Cassidy did to William.
PS: I’d also to love and see your full take and ideas on the timeline, love the videos!
I always thought ft Freddy had most of the remnant, explaining why they talk the most, bon-bon having their own personality, and it being molten FREDDY instead of just being another Ennard or smth
The longer the series goes on, the more I am tempted to try and simplify things; Is it possible that the 5th that chases Afton around before he gets in the suit... Was his youngest son, like, visibly clearly his son? He's very, very freaked out in the mini-game. And we know why he's there; to collect materials for his science projects with soul goo. Afton already knows that ghosts are real, or at minimum there is something super natural going on that has enough physicality that he can extract a weird substance from dead people / robots after murdering them. So how or why is this interaction so alarming vs. others? Perhaps it's because the 5th ghost is an "unexpected" spirit he didn't know could be there?
That night, at the FNAF1 location, when he suddenly sees the ghost of his son AND his four victims together, he hides in the spring bonnie suit because his son was afraid of the springlock suits; his son was afraid of Spring Bonnie and Fredbear; he was a cruel, abusive father and so LAUGHS at seeing the ghost of his son perhaps give pause, or waver, at the suit being put on. Afton's emotions, probably many different ones, would have clouded his rationality and caused him to forget the dangers of springlock suits in damp environments. Perhaps "scaring" the ghost of his son with the suit makes him feel empowered; just like he was discovering the "secrets" of life and death itself, he could intimidate even the supernatural! Causing him then to not realize his fatal, stupid mistake.
Something i like about this theory is that it would explain why the blob (if you believe he was molten Freddy) only has four glowing eyes one for each of the MCI minis golden Freddy
you cannot convince me that it is more likely that molten freddy is MCI, therefore MCI are in the funtimes, rather then funtimes and molten freddy just being fueled with agony, or remnant, or even random chldren souls. Because there is no proof of it, besides henrie's speech in one of the endings wich could be interprited in multiple ways. I feel like we should move on from fnaf 1-6, because we know how it ended and if some of us have different headcannons that's really not that important. Then again, nobody wants to delv into security breach vr ar lore. Exept matpat. We lost him. His recent theory prety much confirmes that he gave up
Finally someone who opposes MoltenDCI
This actually could make alot of sense. Remind me if im wrong but in the faz frights books Andrew still carries the room man with him when he became the wraith (is that the right name), so in the games it would be the opposite William has Cassidy and the crying child with him.
Speaking of loosely tying Ballora to Chica, i basically saw it similar to mod videos with older characters in place of Security Breach. Therefore Monty and Roxy are swapped with Bonnie and Foxy. As for the Funtimes, I can see some loose ties: Ballora with Chica as she had a gym encouraging fitness and pizza, and Baby has bots and plushies around Bonnie Bowl (in Ruin its in the Raceway right under the bowling alley).
And the Blob's glowing eyed heads are Funtime Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Mangle (albeit the 2nd head) with Puppet and Baby off.
With the Cupcake's prominence in the movie teasers, I seen some question if it was the 5th kid, but fortunately Golden Freddy is seen, so perhaps the Cupcake is Susie's dog. We even see Cupcake in the Fourth Closet comic amalgam despite no dog inside and no Golden Freddy despite 5 souls within. And given this movie is framed for a first exposure, it probably won't swap genders or double spirits like Cassidy.
I don't get what the problem with soul splitting is. In the silver eyes trilogy, we've seen that the souls of the kids are somewhat fragmented, and that explains what "being put back together" means in this universe, as well as showing that this isn't a concept unique to Crying Child.
Now, if being put back together is not only a concept that we can explain as the undoing of this fragmentation and we've seen this concept existing in the games, I don't understand why we should avoid soul splitting as a concept, since that's almost certainly happened at least once to at least Crying Child (which could explain the FNaF 3 miniganes and why they might be referencing things in the FNaF 4 minigames)
0:32 luring scraptrap, lefty, scrapbaby, and molten Freddy together is important because that combination sets *everyone* free.
Once afton dies, the children he killed will move on (besides Cassidy cause she is vengeful)
Scrap baby is Elizabeth, so she needs to go, molten Freddy is the fun times, so they need to go, and the puppet needs to go because she is Charlie, Henry literally says “it’s time to rest, for you, and *for those you have carried in your arms.*
I’ve personally never been a fan of molten or Funtime MCI, just because it feels very stupid to me. Making most haunted animatronics just the MCI as well doesn’t feel right to me.
I don’t know why the Funtimes just can’t be possessed by another group of dead kids and the OG dead kids (minus Cass and Charlie) were all freed in happiest day.
Because that'd be weird just to randomly involve a separate set of kids with no names or history, or any real mention, and for William to heavily imply that the MCI kids ARE there.
It's possible the only one who didnt Pass On was Charlie, in Happiest Day, especially if you believe the MCI kids were split between the Endos and the Shells, and the latter were what moved on alongside CC.
@@higueraft571 …Man I miss when we thought phone guy was the killer
@@LeaveMeAlone3-c5b Understandable
(Or Mike Schmidt)
This is a really great theory, and I think this is probably what fazbear frights was trying to tell us. Because if spring trap MCI was true then surely fazbear frights would've had more of Williams victims attached to him. As it was just Andrew, I think it's a fair assumption that just Cassidy was attached to William.
And if people still want to use five things becoming one thing themes from candy cadet, that is still 4 MCI victims and Elizabeth who become ennard (like you said with Michael becoming the coffin)
I said it the other day on your Springtrap MCI video, but I really hope you do get the Shattered Elizabeth theory done, even if it is wrong, because having the idea on the table period means it can be tweaked and reworked easier to try and make an overall better theory. That’s what a theorist community is supposed to do after all
Has anyone ever considered that the spirits might be attached to the minigame things. They are necessary to get the true ending.
You know, there is reason to believe parts of the souls would be in the costumes. After all, the reason FNAF 1 night guard dies on a game over is because of all the crossbeams and stuff inside the costumes. Those beams and things are as much metal as the endoskeletons. I’ve not seen that specific detail mentioned in regard to remnant
Not to mention, it definitely affects non-metal. As far as i know, the Ella Doll isnt metallic?
Its kinda funny seeing someone explain what I already believe
Susie doesn’t necessarily need to possess Ballora because Funtime Chica exists. “But why isn’t she in sister location?” Simple, she’s rented out “Why do you buy her in Fnaf 6 then?” that one I don’t have a clear answer for but either Henry rented her and is making Mike pay for her or someone put her up for sale because Afton is not there anymore.
springtrap containing the spirit of golden freddy is a nice workaround to explain why golden freddy is not seen in follow me or fnaf 6 at all. especially the line "they burn us" containing golden freddy and springtrap seems to point in that direction. the only question is, how did the vengeful spirit start to posses the golden bunny suit? mby spare sparts? but where is golden freddy anyway? he shows up in fnaf 1 which happens after follow me so, what happened there?
7:06 where's the part where 5 things become 4 things plus 1 bonus child and then become one thing
The only wrench we have now is that the books have introduced new murder victims to possibly be the remnant in the Funtimes/Molten Freddy... but I like this theory better that whatever is going on in the books. It makes sense, it's a good theory.
Honestly, I feel like there was in some capacity new victims given the rental service and blueprints
Its really awesome you're talking about this theory because its what ive been thinking for a while now. Although there's no hints towards it specifically, I like to believe that the remnant William used to make himself immortal is specifically from Fredbear aka Cassidy. That's how she has control over his life and is the only one with that ability. Would also make sense why shes the angriest one if she has to be tethered to her killer 24/7
I know you don't like the soul splitting thing but also this same idea can be applied to Michael, which is why CC and Cassidy are able to talk in the log book but none of the other kids do.
>Would also make sense why shes the angriest one if she has to be tethered to her killer 24/7
Admittedly, heavily doubt this is why.
Infact, we practically get the answer from JUST FNAF 1 and 2 alone, although you do need to read between the lines juuust a tiny bit...
William afton dont have remnant
@@Emanuel-qo1jw Proof? Any reason why?
@@higueraft571 As far as I know, William Afton only survived the springlock failure due to William fear of death and agony. Furthermore, William Afton did not regenerate from the damage inflicted by the springlocks, unlike Mike who was revived and regenerated by the remnant
@@Emanuel-qo1jw Keep in mind: Agony *IS* (a form of) Remnant, and one notable difference is that, while Mike *did* regenerate, this was only after the metal stopped impaling him. William is still impaled in his everything.
Depending on if you view Scraptrap as canon, the whole flesh thing COULD be considered regeneration in some limited capacity. But it's also Scraptrap.
You *could* probably argue there's been some strange regen going on with Burntrap more likely, considering the flesh growing/wrapping around parts he did not have before, such as the modified Glamrock legs and replacement Endo Hands (model unknown)
wait why is Molten MCI a thing if the MCI are still possessing the robots in fnaf 3
I've had this thought since Ruin, I wonder if the Funtimes (other then Baby) aren't actually possessed and are really AI. Knowing the Mimic has been around for a long time, Afton is smart enough to possibly make some basic AI for everyone (Yes, I am aware Afton didn't make the Mimic, I'm just saying the tech was there at the time). Possible that when Ennard is created, Elizabeth's soul could have split in half when Baby was booted out later.
Keep in mind, Ennard/Molten Freddy has THE most Remnant of everyone there. It was the most dead children inside it.
This doesnt really work when Ennard is like... half the amount of anyone other than Scrap Baby and itself.
Think about this: you may think that Cassidy is not within Molten Freddy, but then consider Yenndo. People haven’t thought about this, what is Yenndo? It’s an endoskeleton that can teleport and has yellow eyes. Consider, what if it’s Cassidy in a way? If Cassidy’s remnant was within the Funtime animatronics, it would form its own ghostlike projection in the form of Yenndo. And consider this, many people believe that Golden Freddy is a projection of the Fredbear suit Cassidy uses to see, hear, and attack, while the actual Fredbear suit is somewhere else (It would also allow Crying Child to hear and sense things). What if William found the original suit to extract remnant from it? This would explain Yenndo’s existence
So who’s lolbit? What’s the lore behind electrobab? Not all of the SL roster are in Ennard/Molten Freddy and not all have defined lore.
Ennard (based on eyes) has Baby, Funtime Foxy, Ballora, BonBon, and Funtime Freddy in it. We don’t see a second yellow eye or anything like that. Yenndo’s an Easter egg. That’s all.
@@siresquawks Golden Freddy, RXQ, and Shadow Freddy were all once Easter eggs. I’d understand why Lolbit would be an Easter egg (lol is literally in their name), but to say that Yenndo is one and thus he has no relevance feels disingenuous. I mean his name translates to Yellow Endo, similar to Golden Freddy’s “Yellow Bear.” And Electrobab could just be one of Baby’s two Bidibabs
But molten mci is it's basically a confirm theory Henry was talkin about how William molten down the edoskeleton and put the remnant souls in to the Funtime's
I don't think Henry thinks of Baby as a miscellaneous piece in this. She is still an Afton child, and although off her rocker by now she is partially Henry's design with Afton modding her, and ultimately still part of the Afton and Emily family group and the people most affected by the murdering and tragedy around Freddy's in their entirety, the founding families of an ultimately corrupt and out of control business that was made out of purity on Henry's part at the very least. A correction of past mistakes includes at least everyone Henry knows off the bat as victims, and Baby existing does still need to be addressed, particularly because Baby's programming and spirit are also a threat to others. She isn't like the MCI that mainly only attack adults or in the books some rotten kods here and there, Baby and Elizabeth have a warped idea of their father and creator as if he was actually as skillful of a planner instead of a man driven mad and cruel by grief that took it out on others and stumbled his way to a sort of ageless immortality. Elizabeth's soul in Baby is a direct threat by copying her monster of a father despite the clear lack of any respect for her. Charlie is a sort of threat to adults despite being more aware than others, and William is just straight up an unapologetic monster. Molten is a mix of the MCI attacking of adults and the cruel programming of the Funtimes themselves, especially Funtime Freddy, the likely most intelligent and aware besides Baby and the most unhinged and obviously dangerous.
Yea, sorry but I just don't think Molten Freddy or it's constituents are possessed. And remnant isn't an anchor for the souls, it's just a supernatural residue, like ectoplasm. When a soul possesses an object, it leaves behind this residue. It has properties which I guess Afton thinks are the key to immortality. I don't think it's liquid metal. Maybe in the books that is true, but the games don't say anything about its nature, only that it's a liquid that has to be kept at the right temperature for some reason.
>but I just don't think Molten Freddy or it's constituents are possessed.
It outright states that Molten Freddy has the most Remnant out of everyone.
>it's just a supernatural residue, like ectoplasm.
It IS the Soul. That and/or the parts that make up the soul.
>I don't think it's liquid metal.
Admittedly, it's described as a "bubbling silvery liquid" in the books, similar to Mercury. This doesnt really mean it IS Metal however, only that it's opaque, grey(?), and reflective.
>Maybe in the books that is true, but the games don't say anything about its nature, only that it's a liquid that has to be kept at the right temperature for some reason.
From what Scott's mentioned, generally the *events* of the Books arent canon to the games, but typically the mechanics shown off in the books are much closer to the games' mechanics.
Although i do suspect the Book is operating with slightly different terms:
AR introduces us to two things, "Light Remnant", and "Dark Remnant".
The Books introduce us to "Remnant", and "Agony".
Phineas Talbert gives us a rough Gist of the two on their introduction...
Agony (Dark Remnant, or simply "Agony") is a negative emotion, and the most powerful of the two, capable of surviving a "transfer" that others cannot normally, capable of animating things given the right object, with an affinity for objects that "Conduct" it better, Metal being one of the best.
Love (Light Remnant, or simply "Remnant") is a positive emotion, and the most powerful of the Light Remnants, capable of healing wounds and creating Illusions.
Both of which create a Whole Soul when combined, much like Trilogy ""Charlie"".
Additionally, the Books give us an additional feature of Agony specifically, it can "Shelter" other Emotions during said Transfer, working like a Conduit of sorts.
Henry quite literally pours his Agony and Love into that Ella doll, and created a living being (of sorts) out of it. (One he immediately gaslit into believing it was his Daughter, but still)
1:54 weren't the animatronics still in the classics (otherwise FNaF 1 couldn't happen)
Is it possible that Cassidy was always in Spring Bonnie? We never see Afton destroy the Golden Freddy suit, and it would solve the complex problem that is Golden Duo.
I think the only real issue is the Fredbear jump scare in UCN, but here's my possible explanation:
Maybe Cassidy WAS put in the Fredbear suit, but since there was already the spirit of the crying child in the suit, the only other place her agony could go was the Killer's own suit. Then of course the events of FNAF3's cutscenes happen, and the spirits work together to get their revenge on Afton. Then, similar to the Frights books, Afton is kept alive inside the suit by Cassidy. It's not that Afton's spirit is inside Springtrap, but rather that Afton is kept alive inside the suit by the spirit of Cassidy, the actual spirit in the suit.
This also clears up the "5 into 1" problem that Golden Duo introduces, because no matter what, if there's 2 spirits in Golden Freddy, then it's either 4 or 6 spirits, not 5. But if Cassidy is in Golden Bonnie, that brings us to 5, even if she's in the suit with Afton.
>Is it possible that Cassidy was always in Spring Bonnie?
She was DEFINITELY stuffed in Gfreddy. William would have had to get out of his Spring Bonnie costume during the stuffings, and shove Cassidy in the suit he was JUST wearing.
>but since there was already the spirit of the crying child in the suit, the only other place her agony could go was the Killer's own suit.
We know several spirits can share the same body.
>because no matter what, if there's 2 spirits in Golden Freddy, then it's either 4 or 6 spirits, not 5.
Assuming CC is even in there. Also assuming they're even counted as part of "The Five" for the MCI, which they arent.
I'm actually super satisfied with this one:)
"because girl" sounds about right, tbh
have you heard about the suganese theory?
Sugan deez nuts?
This is very compelling and makes alot of sense, the books imply Cassidy attached themselves to William's soul and there were only 4 animatronics that William dismantled.
Side note but it is impossible for William to have gathered the remnent off of the main animatronics in the FNAF 3 minigame and bring them back to the bunker to use them for the funtimes as William stayed in the saferoom the whole time only leaving to disassemble the animatronics 1 by 1 so someone had to of either gathered the part after he was springlocked or Ennard after leaving the bunker went back to the location and used the left over parts to help rebuild themselves in order for the Funtime MCI theory to be true, what do you think?
Ultimate Guide states that William in follow me Minigame wanted mci remnant
>as William stayed in the saferoom the whole time only leaving to disassemble the animatronics 1 by 1
That's what we SEE, but we know there's more happening off screen. We never see where he goes after each one is torn apart.
@@Emanuel-qo1jw yeah that's what I said, the problem was how could he actually collect it if he never left the building
@@higueraft571 mate, the place is abandoned, he has the perfect hiding spot from the animatronics and the place is bordered up. Why and how would he be able to leave each time after he dismantles the animatronics and why would he return at all when it would only raise suspicions on him
@@DJBurns-jq8mn >Why and how would he be able to leave each time after he dismantles the animatronics
So it has time to "Process" most likely, to melt down and extract.
>Why and how would he be able to leave each time after he dismantles the animatronics
They only seem to "activate" when Shadow Freddy starts luring them, in these minigames.
>and why would he return at all when it would only raise suspicions on him
It's an abandoned pizzeria, i dont think people are gonna question some dude fucking around in a trashed building outside of "wonder if he's selling drugs or something". Assuming it's raining outside, i dont think many people WOULD be outside, and that also assuming it's in a more populated urban area...
Additionally, suspicions of what, exactly? Looting at worst, like the people that rip copper out of abandoned buildings to sell off?
It's possibly there *was* only one "trip" outside, but he likely left at LEAST once.
i like MoltenBoth (MCI and DCI) because it make DCI more important but it lack evidence.
Assuming DCI *did* possess anything :V
the dci have absolutely no remnant
@@jetperson3billion439 Problem is, how do we know they do or dont? How do we know there even *IS* a DCI at all? :V
Elizabeth must be important to allow Michael and William what they wanted, their family back together. They both done very bad things, especially William, but Henry would know that William only did what he did (at least at first) to try and fix his family as he would know what it's like to lose a family.
It was the gift William got from Henry for what little humanity he had left and Michael (while he wasn't extended to be there by Henry), he would recognise him and know that he wants to be with his family as well hence Henry’s speech to Michael specifically.
>but Henry would know that William only did what he did (at least at first) to try and fix his family as he would know what it's like to lose a family.
I dont think William murdered Henry's daughter to "fix his family", that's definitely more spite/jealousy/hate/etc mixed in with being fairly unstable to begin with :V
ESPECIALLY if William views CC's death as Henry's fault (it's his robot that killed his son, after all)
@@higueraft571 obviously he didn't kill Charlie for an experiment, he did so as "revenge" but Henry would at least understand why he did so and the good times they had before all the crazy stuff had to of ment something to the both of them as they both made their dreams a reality.
@@DJBurns-jq8mn >but Henry would at least understand why he did so
That assumes Henry *does* understand why William did it.
Infact, FNAF 6 implies Henry believes *William* "Struck First" with Charlie's death.
I'm betting William's view is that *Henry* "Struck First" with CC, and never accepted any part of the blame. Probably something along the lines of "It's not my fault his head was stuck in there"...
I like this, it is my head cannon now
Did he just make a Digimon reference??
You bet your digital ass I did.
I really like this theory, I just have a question: If William didn't extract Golden Freddy's remnant, how does it appear in Follow Me?
I don't understand the question?
Goldie can literally do anything
Phantom Freddy is Withered Golden Freddy.
Same color, same missing ear with wires, is called golden freddy in the files, and the other easter egg freddy is called shadow freddy.
Digimon reference? Sick!
Does this theory work with GoldenDuo? Or is there a variation of this theory that does work?
If Cass is undoubtedly Golden Freddy, I don’t know why they would wanna follow William everywhere.
Edit: I mean unless she wanted to haunt or kill him.
got a sudden thought after watching the video, can't really call this a theory since it probably has a lot of plot holes, just my idiotic rambling. enjoy, this comment is LONG.
why do we even think that CC is a part of an Aftong family?
What if the family from FNAF 4 is a completely different family that is not connected to the Aftons at all?
Just think about it - the only thing hinting about Mike being that foxy bully is the "he fell into the Fredbear's mouth" joke from logbook, which could've been just a joke made by him after witnessing the bite. He's the son of the pizzeria's goddamn co-owner, he easily could've been in there somewhere during the bite.
You can try to argue about Mike being in MM and as FNAF 4's protagonist connecting him to CC's family, but Dittophobia negates all of this. Plus Michael doesn't show any connections to the Foxy bully except being sarcastic(not a rare character trait tbh), and nothing shows him being a Foxy-fan. Even further, FFPS and Logbook depicts him as a bear character instead(in Logbook Foxy is rather connected to the Phonedude/Phoneguy, than Michael)
Plus we don't have ANY mentions of CC being Afton's son in any of the games or books. Like he didn't exist at all.
If CC's family is a whole different one from Aftons, then hypothetically we should get rid of the age limit for Foxybully(most depict him being like 16).
If so, then we have a family with 3 kids - an unknown daughter, younger son(presumably still a child) and an older son(atleast a young teen, lets assume 13)
Straight to the point - This family is the same one as the one from MM minigame(which happens around 1984 when CC died and Fredbear's closed, but 1985 MCI restaurant didn't open yet), and children of this specific family are being haunted by our man in golden rabbit fursuit.
I don't know why he would be targeting this specific family(could be that they're Henry's sons and the daughter is Charlie but that would be TOO far fetched), but he does target them and it will make sense later in some of the animatronic behaviors.
So, Afton is an insane madman who built a mini-experiment bunker(which will later expand into Circus Baby's Entertainment and Rental or whaterer FNAF SL's bunker name was) under the Fredbear's, stalks the closest family living to Fredbears and regurally kidnaps their youngest son during the night to run his mad experiments with gas and "nightmare" animatronics. According to Dittophobia and MM, dad of the family loves drinking and doesn't care about his children.
5 Days before the youngest son's birthday.
Drunk dad locks son's door and leaves the house again.
Then every day goes the same as we think but with an exception of Builles being Fritz, Jeremy, Susie, and Gabriel. Yes, the bullies are the MCI children here. The layout of children in Happiest Day and Bite of 83 minigames just made me think of this theory.
CC here has a backstory of what he's scared of in this case - he's literally having "nightmares" every night about the animatronics.
If Afton would be CC's dad, then he would've SOMEHOW react to seeing his child crying in the middle of the pizzeria in 3rd minigame, but instead the man in the shadows just keep doing his job(helping someone to get into the springlock suit) and closes back the door. I get that neither Afton is depicted as a guy who loves his family( coough cough physical abuse on Elizabeth in SE trilogy), but if he's trying to keep this "good family man with happy life and successful business" face in public(like the SE trilogy depicts), then he would've reacted somehow, he's in public place afterall, people would notice him ignoring his own child crying in the middle of pizzeria. Instead, he just ignores and closes the door.
Bite happens, Michael was possibly in the pizzeria during that time(ha ha my dad is the owner of restaurant that means i can get food for free there, especially at parties), CC dies.
MCI children are now traumatized for murdering CC(especially Fritz) and CC's soul is now haunting the Fredbear. Restaurant closed.
Afton didn't expect that turn of events, his main target is now gone, and he has no one to experiment on.
Or, he still does?
Traumatized and weakened teen, older brother of his victim, who made fun of him. A perfect candidat for a new victim.
Afton does his kidnap shenanigans again but with Fritz, and by that time, drunk father noticed that the child started disappearing, as he thinks "running away to that place again" with the place being JR's(Restaurant that replaced Fredbear's). He's too drunk to notice the footprints of springlock suit and the fact that the window is broken from outside.
Its 1985, Fazbear's restaurant opens.
Fritz and his friend group take a visit to the newly opened restaurant.
Insane Furry decides to take his opportunity, lures in a group of traumatized 15 year olds into the backroom and murders them. He may have tortured each of these teens, not just Fritz and CC, he took something away from them(CC from Fritz and Dog from Susie, hinting that he may've done the same things to Jeremy and Gabriel) and lured them away by saying that he has this thing in the backroom(Like he did with Susie). WAIT SHI
THAT ACTUALLY FITS THE "He took everything away from them, and lured them back into the same place with same tricks(or however Henry said that)" - He tortured each of these kids, kidnapped them, tested his gas on them, and took one thing away from them.
Everything is witnessed by Fredbear suit laying in the same room, and an understanding comes to the child's mind - this is the man. The yellow rabbit that used to lure him, kidnap him, and take him straight to his nightmares. This man is responsible for everything that has happened to him. He has taken it too far. His brother wasn't the one guilty for his death, this man was. He'll do everything to turn his life into a living hell. CC, filled with hatred to this man becomes "the one you shouldn't have killed", The vengeful spirit. MCI kids on the other hand with the help of Charlie get attached to the classics. The fact that Afton terrorized Fritz and CC would also reflect on their animatronic behaviours - Foxy is acting way more agressive than the rest of the cast towards "Afton"(Keep in mind that Mike looks exactly like his Dad - their killer and torturer), and CC straight up saying "ITS ME"(Its me, the one you shouldn't have killed. Your first victim)
Then the whole lore goes the same - Mike starts his own detective shenanigans, searches pizzerias and blah blah blah.
One exception though - there's only one spirit in Golden Freddy(never understood goldenduo, there's no hints of second soul ANYWHERE except the allegory with fazbear fright and "altered" text from the logbook which is idiotic), which is CC. And children positioning in Happiest day minigame now makes sense - it is a mirror of BV's birthday, the one that was taken away from him.
This way, we get character development for Vengeful spirit, remove tons of "retcons" with MCI children not being bullies and CC not being the main Fredbear spirit(There was only 1 retcon during FNAF 1-FFPS, and I heavily doubt that this is the one. So, as the FNAF1-4 lore heavily hints, MCI children are bullies and CC is the main Fredbear spirit.), and get rid of the unnessecary third wheel in Afton family.
The only issues I see are:
1) Why would Afton target these kids specifically?
2) Susie's(Chica-mask bully) sprite in FNAF 4 looking much different from her FFPS design(could be excused with FNAF 4 design just being outdated, Scott really should update his older games to fit newer lore lol)
3) Afton lacks now the reasoning for his murders and experiments(though the whole BV's death being his devil trigger was already questionable, but experiments may be just testing the limits of Human's psyche, or his inventions. His motive for doing all of this may be just that he's an insane man, idk)
4) FFPS alleyway poster(Though, I think that this poster is rather hinting towards FFPS characters rather than afton family - Afton ofc being the man, his puppet being literally the Puppet - Charlie, clown is Elizabeth and bear with Ennard's party hat is Molten Freddy)
that's it. hope you enjoyed my insane rambling. took 2 hours to type that lol. dunno how to call this "theory"(would call this hypothesis), BullyMCI? VengefulCC? dont care tbh.
btw, watching you since "when is SL?" video, how tf i was not subscribed to you before
btw x2, freddy's files theory section(and freddy's files as a whole) are a bit... questionable in their relyability.
>Straight to the point - This family is the same one as the one from MM minigame(which happens around 1984 when CC died and Fredbear's closed, but 1985 MCI restaurant didn't open yet), and children of this specific family are being haunted by our man in golden rabbit fursuit.
Oh god, this again.
We see ONE set of Footprints, it's raining, and the child walks out willingly.
It's also labeled "Later That Night"
>and regurally kidnaps their youngest son during the night to run his mad experiments with gas and "nightmare" animatronics.
Again, there is no struggle, missing footprints, the child is willingly going, and the Father doesnt question ANYTHING that'd be huge red flags, going "I'm gonna make his life suck once he gets back again".
>Yes, the bullies are the MCI children here.
???
Susie is not a teenager, she's a child. At minimum all of them are in Puberty, 12-14 or so. They're taller than CC, who's probably 6-9, and shorter than the Adults.
And we know the other victims were similarly children, especially with their depictions in the Books.
>CC here has a backstory of what he's scared of in this case - he's literally having "nightmares" every night about the animatronics.
This doesnt work with Scott's hint either.
To quote:
"What is seen in shadows is easily misunderstood in the mind of a child."
There is no misunderstanding "this creepy fucker keeps kidnapping me, dosing me with Nightmare gas, and freaky ass monsters come after me"
Specifically, why would his brother be specifying a "kiss". Why the easter egg of William putting an employee in a springlock suit?
I suspect this is "he saw an employee being put in, and thought it was eating him". A Childish fear borne out of seeing something wrong in the shadows of an unlit storage closet.
>but if he's trying to keep this "good family man with happy life and successful business" face in public(like the SE trilogy depicts), then he would've reacted somehow, he's in public place afterall, people would notice him ignoring his own child crying in the middle of pizzeria. Instead, he just ignores and closes the door.
The public ALREADY knows his son is a "crybaby" afraid of nothing, and tease him about it. If you believe he's speaking through the Plushie, he's not only not helping, but actively *encouraging* Shit between the brothers, demonizing Michael.
>Afton does his kidnap shenanigans again but with Fritz, and by that time, drunk father noticed that the child started disappearing, as he thinks "running away to that place again" with the place being JR's(Restaurant that replaced Fredbear's). He's too drunk to notice the footprints of springlock suit and the fact that the window is broken from outside.
Right, mysteriously just... misses the Footprints next to the ones he did notice.
And again, the footprints dont work here either, it doesnt make sense.
Also why would a Bar be letting a child in.
>THAT ACTUALLY FITS THE "He took everything away from them, and lured them back into the same place with same tricks(or however Henry said that)" - He tortured each of these kids, kidnapped them, tested his gas on them, and took one thing away from them.
???
"He took everything away from them" - Their Lives, killed innocent children long before their lives "began".
"and lured them back into the same place with same tricks" - Lured them once with Spring Bonnie into the Saferoom, Lured them again (seemingly) with Shadow Freddy, using the Saferoom.
>CC, filled with hatred to this man becomes "the one you shouldn't have killed", The vengeful spirit.
And the other kids arent?
>and "altered" text from the logbook which is idiotic
The logbook involves three characters.
Michael Afton (Red Text)
Faded Text.
and the Third, scrambling what's already there.
We know one of them is "Cassidy", and they're speaking, stuff like "what do you remember?" and "It was for me", "I'm Scared", "I cant see", and so on.
While it likely doesnt confirm GoldenDuo, you do have to wonder who these two are.
One is thought to be MCI 5th (especially since Cassidy is from the same source as the other 4 kids' names), and the other CC.
ADDITIONALLY, i'm going to drop another question: Where the hell is Charlie in your explanation/timeline?
>Though, I think that this poster is rather hinting towards FFPS characters rather than afton family - Afton ofc being the man, his puppet being literally the Puppet - Charlie, clown is Elizabeth and bear with Ennard's party hat is Molten Freddy
Why would The Puppet (who you never explained) be a "Little William" dressed in Purple? We know Michael is the spitting image of his father, and is also associated with Purple, but how's he a puppet?
And the Bear with sharp claws and VERY sharp teeth, with his mouth wide open is... Ennard? Who is the MCI kids and not CC (The kid bitten by Fredbear and killed)??
@@xharerae So there's a limit, so this is a two-parter...
Ok so, here's my explanation:
Henry built Fredbear.
Michael and his friends bully his younger brother, using his childish fear of the suits eating people, he decides to help his brother give Fredbear a "big kiss" by shoving him in it's mouth, having it "eat" him and making his brother shit his pants in the process. It goes south fast.
Michael is grieving his brother's loss, his father is PISSED. He makes a downward spiral after his brother flatlined, and William isnt happy about it, alongside his son's loss.
Shortly after CC's death, William begins asking Henry to watch his older son while he's at work (likely after the first breakout). Henry, not wanting to leave his daughter unsupervised, makes the Security Puppet and lets her stay at Fredbear's. After repeated Breakouts, William creates a Scarecrow to try and intimidate his son, and keep him from going... somewhere (Hospital? Where CC was bitten/died? Something else related to his brother?).
Upon the events of Midnight Motorist, or "Later that Night", William is pulling out of Fredbear's when he sees Charlie. She's outside, nobody in sight, no Puppet in sight. William, likely not QUITE stable even in the best of times, bitter at *Henry's* creation taking his son away (with him likely not seeing it as his fault), and Angry... He murders Charlie in a hot-blooded murder, and quickly dumps her body in the Alleyway before speeding off.
As he comes home, Michael has run away, AGAIN. Henry tells him to go easy on Michael, but William ignores him. He sees the Scarecrow has been knocked down (into the bushes), and plans to punish Michael when he gets back.
Presumably, the FNAF 4 house is built, and the SL bunker extended from it's former Fredbear's size, and the gas(?) hooked up. He torments Michael, both out of sick pleasure/vengeance, research, and to "mold" him.
Some time after MM/Charlie's Death, he notices the Puppet acting *odd.* It KNOWS him, it's Charlie.
His impulsive murder just hit a Jackpot of Legendary proportions. Immortality, with hard proof right in front of him, something an untold number of people have died and killed for the merest whiff of...
He begins hypothesizing and theorizing about it, trying to figure out how it happened. He decides to do it again, with a decent sample size later on.
1985 rolls around, he dons the Spring Bonnie suit, and lures 5 unsuspecting children into the Saferoom, jamming them all into the Classic suits one by one, each a brutal gruesome death.
All but one at least, Cassidy. Her suit is much worse...
He shoves her into Fredbear, and triggers a Springlock Failure, impaling her in it instantly, leading to one of the most brutal deaths imaginable... This is the First thing he did to her.
After the MCI had occurred, the children were reported missing, and the MCI Location shut down. William had his confirmation. The animatronics, formerly lifeless, were now animated as well, Possessed by the Undead...
Taking this in stride, he began working on the Funtimes (or perhaps finishing them, if he began on them before the MCI), and opened Circus Baby's Pizza World a year later... only for Elizabeth to die day one, and for it to be shut down.
With that plan shelved for a time, he instead turns towards his Old Fashioned way to get Remnant. Kill More Children.
HOWEVER, Spring Bonnie is trapped in the MCI location still, locked in the now-abandoned saferoom.
...good thing the Fredbear costume is still around. He kills yet more children, this time wearing Cassidy the entire time. This is the Second thing he did to her.
The FNAF 2 location is shut down during the Investigation. His son, Michael, is also present at the location. Either serving obediently, or attempting to find evidence of his Father's crimes, while only truly dancing on the strings set out already.
FNAF 2's toys are destroyed, while the remaining Animatronics are held and refurbished, william isnt able to get ahold of them yet.
Once again with FNAF 1 Michael is hired, fired (again) for fucking with the Animatronics, and rubbing himself down with Corpse Goo practically.
Once FNAF 1's location closes, William breaks in, and begins dismantling the FNAF 1s one by one, dumping the Remnant into the now re-used Funtimes and other Experiments. However, when he went to retrieve the Fredbear suit (if that was his purpose), he gets cornered by his Victims.
He hides in the Spring Bonnie suit (similarly to FNAF 2's mask mechanic) and dies. TOYSHNK/Cassidy not letting him go, not after what he did to her. Making him suffer her fate is just the beginning...
SL happens, Elizabeth and the MCI kids escape, Michael gets scooped, dies, re-possesses himself, and regenerates thanks to Light Remnant, etc etc
FNAF 3 rolls around, the souls still trapped in the FNAF 1 souls, alongside CC being in Gfreddy/Fredbear, are released in Happiest Day, while the Puppet sticks around to handle the remaining mess. The FNAF 3 location is burned by Michael after William was hauled out of the "Softlock" area he was stuck in (cant move, Animatronic isnt meant to be moving around in there, nowhere "valid" to step) and stuck on display.
Henry creates Lefty, traps Charlie, sets up the FNAF 6 location, and "calls" everyone there. Michael happening to be there by chance/choice.
Henry burns the place after trapping them there, Michael escapes, and the place is sealed off and buried.
Spring-Molten-MCI. This title hurts my brain a little though.
You misspelled MoltenMCI Alter-S
Still confused with the Crying Child, as unlike the FNAF 1 Souls, we never got his happiest day (FNAF World), personally, CC story doesn't seem over yet.
(We have no name fully comfirmed, any comfirmation on where he was in SP or even why steelwool been posting stuff that somewhat connets to CC)
>we never got his happiest day (FNAF World)
How do you know he didnt?
@@higueraft571 Because in the drowning ending, the text form FNAF 3 (happiest day) was out of the screen view (which scott kept out of view in the 2.0 update) & we still don't know what ending of FNAF World is the true ending (as there are some that would change the outcome)
@@sky8ash >& we still don't know what ending of FNAF World is the true ending
Pretty likely the "The pieces are in place" ending.
Also we see it in 3.
The MCI kids are split between Shell and Endo, half going to the Funtimes, half remain. CC, attached to Fredbear, has his happiest day with the Shell Kids and Charlie, all but Charlie Passing On. Cassidy, Charlie, and the Other Half are still In Play.
You now have Happiest Day occur, explain CC's lack of presence, and how the kids are in the Funtimes, all at once.
@@higueraft571 The pieces are in place ending is the Clock ending / spirit trophy (which is different to the Drowning ending and thus No Happiest Day for him)
Crying Child being attatched to Fredbear doesn't make sense when cosiding some stuff.
1) He was still alive after the bite & was moved somewhere else (due to the beeeeeeeeep, which could be a heartbeat or something else)
2) If we are the crying child in FNAF World, then it very odd that we spifically can't use Fredbear for most cutsceens (Due to the Universe ending)
3) Odd Hissing sounds (simular to HW2 Trailer) can be heard in the background of some of FNAF World OST
4) If we are the Crying Child in FNAF World, Fredbear tell us in the Clock Ending this:
"We are still your friends.
"Do you believe that?"
"The Pieces are in place for you."
"All you have to do is find them"
"Rest."
Telling Crying Child to find them but also to rest doesn't even make sense if he is dead.
"You now have Happiest Day occur, explain CC's lack of presence, and how the kids are in the Funtimes, all at once."
FNAF 3's happiest day spefically show 6 souls, Charlie (Puppet), Susie (Chica), Jeremy (Bonnie), Fritz (Foxy) & the 6th kid, who get's a Golden (lighter gray) mask which would aline up with the Give Gift, Give Life minigame's 5th kid, would make more sense to be Cassidy.
It also doesn't make sense how the Kids Souls are in the funtimes anitronics, exspevisily if SL take place before FNAF 1 due to Bonnie's design (8-Bit having Buttons & FNAF 1 having none), we also know that they were dismanitle in the FNAF 1 location due to the map layout.
@@sky8ash >He was still alive after the bite & was moved somewhere else (due to the beeeeeeeeep, which could be a heartbeat or something else)
Fair point, although evidently you dont really NEED to be in contact with something to possess it. The Real Jake involves Jake possessing Simon, despite being not close enough, if i remember right?
>Telling Crying Child to find them but also to rest doesn't even make sense if he is dead.
Except, if CC *is* being spoken to there, and is still present. They clearly *arent* dead yet, like the Others arent.
Well, they ARE dead, but they're not *gone...*
Generally, it's telling them to Pass On, have their Happiest Day and Rest.
>FNAF 3's happiest day spefically show 6 souls, Charlie (Puppet), Susie (Chica), Jeremy (Bonnie), Fritz (Foxy) & the 6th kid, who get's a Golden (lighter gray) mask which would aline up with the Give Gift, Give Life minigame's 5th kid, would make more sense to be Cassidy.
Except that kinda means Happiest Day *CANT* happen. Cassidy never rests, she never Passes On, she's still here even in UCN onward.
With CC being the subject, Happiest Day can still happen, and it makes sense/has an impact.
>It also doesn't make sense how the Kids Souls are in the funtimes anitronics, exspevisily if SL take place before FNAF 1 due to Bonnie's design (8-Bit having Buttons & FNAF 1 having none), we also know that they were dismanitle in the FNAF 1 location due to the map layout.
SL definitely takes place after FNAF 1.
Afton Robotics has been consumed by Fazbear Ent, Baby i believe mentioned they'd been down there for a while, and have made several unsuccessful Escape attempts.
And we know there ARE children in the Funtimes, and that Henry refers to them as if they are the MCI kids (how he lured them to the saferoom, again, and took what life they had, again.)
I will admit, i'm... doubtful the buttons mean they were:
- Withereds from FNAF 2 but seemingly repaired (none are fucked up like they're meant to be, Bonnie has both arms and a face, for example)
- Dismantled by William
- Refurbished with endos replaced
- After FNAF 1 they're... dismantled AGAIN?
- ???
- Phone Dude obtains the shells left lying around
- Happiest Day happens
- Fire
There's also the question of why is FNAF 1 boarded up and abandoned too, if this is prior to 1/the place shutting down?
This is why Squawks is the goat
Oh boy here we go
How about for the name we go qith Multi-MCI or something like that idk. But anyways I really enjoyed this theory and it actually made a lot of sense.