Thanks a lot for your review Ben, you summed up my system very nicely! :) Looking forward to sharing the upcoming updates and improvements with the community! :D
Since releasing the video, the system has been renamed to Gun4IR Friend of the Channel @wallmachine just found out, that if you use 68.0 ohms resistors, rather than the 48.7 ohms ones I envisioned, you can power the LED boards by 5 V rather than 4 V DC. This is super convenient as many people own plenty of 5 V sources due to their phones & portable devices needing the same voltage.
@@kevinthorn9672 It's very modular if you think of it: - multiple micro controllers are suited - DF Robot cam or any other donor that uses the same sensor - USB cable (usally micro B is needed) - Several possibilities to do the light sources. I therefore suggest JayBee's written manual as a starting point to decide what parts to get.
Awesome again. When I've finished writing my new frontend, this is high on my list to return to. Set up a couple of aimtraks a number of years ago. Time feels right for a refresh...
Thank you, kind Sir! I have the "Arcadeguns" variant of the Aimtrak. If you use a small screen, stay far away and keep super stationary, there are tons of fun to be had =)
Thank you for sharing this project and your board files for the IR reference lights! it looks like it works really well, I hadn't realised the Wii's camera was capable of such good results. Looks like I've got a project for the Christmas break! :)
Thank you very much, Ben! To me it was a shock aswell^^ Nintendo, the big international company, got far, far surpassed by an enthusiast and his spare time project, eventhough using similar hardware! XD Glad to hear you give it a shot! I am sure you will love it! =)
I have decided to force myself to learn soldering. I did the same with welding years ago and enjoyed many fun projects. I am tired of paying others to do work I can learn myself. I have all 5he parts to buildy own guns, sitting in a box for months. Thank again you for your continued amazing content Ben!
That sounds exciting :D if you haven't yet ordered soldering gear I would recommend you lead containing rosin core solder, over the more modern lead-free stuff. Yes, lead is not healthy. But it melts better, wets better and is a better start for beginners. You can use the silver stuff later, when you are proficient :D
Thank you very much! Compared to what other users did (force feedback and lights) my controller is a bit puristic. But I wanted it to be clean and simple =) Also my flat is too thin-walled to use proper solenoid driven force feedback frequently^^
I'm interested on the bluetooth developement, as I'v been told that wireless guns won't accept being flashed as Mouse/Keyboard but as Controller, wich is not very convenient
I suggest checking out Jean-Baptiste's project on Arcade Controls Forum, JB's discord or facebook. Unfortunately I don't know the state of his bluetooth solution by heart. As far as I know it has been done and is ready to be used.
Wooo! Fantastic test, review, video and subject!!!!!! I am really happy you made one of these lightguns!!!! I have few questions because I already bought special 940nm ir led+ all the stuff to create a 4 ir led system for purpose testing with my wiimotes. ( 2 month ago). Do I need to use the software of jaybee? I knew that the df-robot camera was like a Nintendo wii remote camera, so my plan was to make a try directly for my wiimote. The only thing I don't know is if it's mandatory or not to use the jaybee's software with this 4 ir led system. Thanks for this awesome video booj!!! 😀👏👏👍.
Actually my software isn't needed for other things than flashing the firmware or setting various options, but once it's setup you can use the gun on anything ;) But be careful, you also need to build the hardware for this system, it won't work with a wiimote.
@@ginzuemulation9265 Thank you very much for the kind words! =) You see, it needs the firmware in the micro controller. It won't work on a standard Wii remote. But you can use it as a parts donor as substitute for the DF Robot cam. As JayBee already said you wont need his GUI, but I highly recommend it still! It's just about 1500 yen and is a very useful diagnostic and setup tool. Also the purchase supports this fantastic project a little bit!
You mention in this video that prior to the Gun4IR you used to use the Arcade Guns variant of the Aimtrak. How exactly do those compare to the Ultimarc version?
Just minor differences: Arcadeguns uses an original shell, while Aimtrak copied the G-Con 45 (GunCon 1). Both vendors use an own "skin" for the same software. Both guns work, within their limitations, quite nicely. I like them both =)
Hey! Really appreciate the video! One aspect that has scared me about Jaybees system was the amount of diy work involved. Specifically the led system, I think I could hopefully handle the gun stuff. So it was great to see that you’ve designed a little pcb board and provided the files for it! Now my question is where can I take these files to get made? I’m in Canada and would prefer someone local but will ship internationally if needed. I don’t even know what to google in terms of someone that could make these things lol. Any help is greatly appreciated!
Thank you very much! You can look locally for "PCB prototyping" or "PCB print service". Then you send them the Eagle file or the Gerber files. Personally I have my stuff printed by a company called Eurocircuits, usually in Belgium. But they also offer printing via India, so this could be attractive to you, because as soon as it's far outsourced it's not important anymore where the intermediate person is located. Also famous is seeedstudio, which is located in China.
@@Boojakascha Hey thanks for the reply! Just a question, I've found a decent site called PCBWay that offers not only to manufacture the PCBs but can assemble them as well...again being completely new to all this, does this mean they will source all the necessary components as well and ship boards basically ready to plug and play? This option seems cheaper than buying components from Mouser so I feel like its too good to be true. This would be ideal as I wouldn't have to buy a soldering gun or solder or make any mistakes! If not, I have your components list for Mouser but not sure of quantities lol
@@CanadianRyGuy I have never worked with a printer who solders, but they exist! A friend of mine worked with a combo provider. Typically those companies provide the components themselves. I would be surprised though if they also glue on the heat sink to the board. If you don't plan to use screw couplers, you will have to solder anyways as the cable harness is custom. If you find a provider who solders the boards, it could still be a good thing, as it's SMD. Beginners struggle with SMD. Per board: 3 LEDs 3 resistors 1 Molex Pico Blade socket
Amazing video!!! Hi Boojakascha, I do have a question. I'm a little confused on which files to use to have the pcb boards printed. Would I use the "g_IR-LEDpads" or "IR-LEDpads" files or both sets?
Thank you very much! You would use either of them, but not both. The g ones are GERBER files, which are very established. The brd file is a Eagle file and is what I am usually using.
Thanks for the review Ben. Lots of choices now. If you had an arcade crt cabinet running mame, would you recommend this or an aimtrak or Sinden or an act-labs?
This. I don't have a Sinden yet, but that one has white boarders and doesn't have the force feedback and light options the JB 4PLG has. I love the Aimtrak, but it's just good on small displays playing at rather high distance (higher than what people are used to on arcades). Act Labs is really cool, but just works perfectly on games that offer additional in-game calibration. Else there are slight inaccuracies. Also it doesn't track continiously which shortens the list of suitable games. Also it has the white flash some people dislike.
I love the idea behind this project, I own a wii and the light gun input lag it's very noticeable and off-putting, unfortunately I suck at DIY projects, would be awesome if JB would sell pre-made guns with his quality standards in mind.
Can I ask if you are going to get a Sinden light gun? I heard he is not shipping to western euope yet and there might be import issues. Excellent and unique content, as always Ben!
Yes, I ordered the recoil version. That one is delayed as he ran out of storage :-S. Firmware needs rewriting now, which sucks for this hardware revision as there he left away the interface. Thanks a lot! =)
@@Boojakascha I feel the same, looking forward to your evaluation. You're by far the most expert on light guns I've ever seen. Once PS2 emulation is a bit farther along, I think the Sinden gun will be the best commercial solution. But I still love playing on the old console too! I've got my kid hooked, as well.
Hi, the boards you have made for this project are great and thank you for sharing them. I am looking to making one myself, are all 4 boards powered by the same power supply? If they are how have you connected the multiple picoblade cables to it? Thanks
Thank you, Matthew =) Yes, all are powered by the same single supply. The wire harness has "Y" segments or crossings so to speak :D You can twist wires to do so, but I recommend soldering them.
@@Boojakascha Thank you so much for the information. If the 68 ohms resistors were used and the boards run on 5V power supply would 1 amp on the power supply be enough or would you recommend higher amperage? Thanks :-)
@@matthewstock6503 1 A is sufficient. The original boards ran 0.23 A using the 48.7 ohms resistors at 5 V. With 68 ohms the current will be even lower, so no problem at all =)
@@Boojakascha Thank you thats great, on your clone gcon did you make a custom ir perspex to replace the optical lens or did you buy one from somewhere?
whats the difference between the g_IR-LEDpads and IR-LEDpads files is it just different software to print the pcb? how do you connect them all to one location?
Yes, exactly. The g_* stuff is "Gerber" which is an image like format. It's historically relevant but not flexible. The .brd is an Eagle board file, which I deem superior as it's changeable =)
@@Boojakascha thanks. with the PCB layout, what dimensions, layers and thickness did you select? and can you link to the power supply used for the LEDs?
@@wallmachine8780 It's 2 layers and you can go for the thickness that is cheapest at your vendour. Probably 1.55 mm or 1 mm. I went for 1 mm. Dimensions I don't know by heart. Around 19 mm. Your vendour should be able to figure out himself and else this is a severe warning not to deal with them! ;-)
With "how you connect them" you mean the Gerbers, right? Vendours will receive an archive file of multiple files. They need all of them. .zip or .rar are fine usually =) Any 4 VDC power supply with sufficient current will do the trick, but here is an example link: www.ebay.com/itm/4V-2A-AC-DC-Power-Supply-Replacement-Adapter-with-1-0mm-x-2-4mm-Tip-Center/361431484610
@@Boojakascha struggling to find 4 VDC in australia do you think this would be strong enough but not to hot? www.radioparts.com.au/product/33774370/sm403-4.5v-300ma-power-supply-switchmode-1.35mm-0.3a#.X5g5s4gzaUk
I think it is! You might want to ask JayBee, who is in the comments here too! The system works as a self contained mouse. As long as your system supports somewhat recent mouse drivers, it's likely to support the JB 4PLG (now Gun4IR). This & JayBee is a huge MiSTer fan =)
My favorite is the real GunCon 2 on a CRT =) But the Gun4IR is my favorite among the contemporary systems. I think it is the solution in a future without CRTs.
@@Alex-oy6wb Probably. I will buy examples of the upcoming kit versions to review them, but I guess I will stick with the gun of this video for actually playing.
Thanks a lot, Német! Yes! In fact the synchronization of force feedback and/or arcade marquee light behavior to the gun is just possible in Mame. DemulShooter does work and Wii emulators should work, but I haven't tired them =)
@@Boojakascha I know what the bullets are at the bottom left, but two of them are shot and there is no shot marker where you're aiming on screen. Thought there was no lag?
I still disagree. Can you check your time stamp? Or maybe you don't quite understand the perspective the scene was filmed in? I load with the gun aiming down.
@@Boojakascha I know the gun is loaded while pointing down and shooting off screen. I'm asking about after that when you shoot two times, there's no shots on the screen? The time stamp is right.
I am sorry Sir, now I get you. You see, Mad Bullets is a low budget indie game. It is meant to be played with a mouse and thus offers a cursor to aim. Therefore not all misfired shots yield in a indicator halo or faux bullet hole. No indicator is needed when played as intended. Personally I override the cursor file with a blank file, which is completely empty, to get rid of the on screen cross hair. A light gun version for the Sure Shot HD was planned/announced but never released.
I spent the night playing with my Sinden Lightgun and while it works okay I HATE the forced border, and the Guncon 2 is the best feeling light gun ever made. I'm gonna have to sit down and convert two Guncon 2s to Gun4IR at some point.
It takes a lot of the screen estate, doesn't it :-( Hopefully dedicated games will do a better job incorporating boarders in the future =) I agree, I love the G-Con 2 =) I am sure your Gun4IR will turn out great!
Dear Amir, sadly I don't offer modding services for hire. I would recommend you to recruit a modder in the Arcade Controls forum (link in description) or in JayBee's discord channel =) From what I have seen several people used a Aliexpress gun, just like you are planning! :-P
I have seen your videos on it! If you are willing to sell it, I am interested for sure! What kind of price do you have in mind? From where will it be shipped? I am located in Switzerland.
@@Boojakascha hi i am in the uk, as you are very passionate, and people will kill me for doing this, as they have tried buying this from me for a long time, i know it will find a good home in yours, so just shipping cost :)
Hey hey hey, so I been tryna tweak my Sinden out a bit. U said u rather have ur gun4ir system slightly higher latency than 4 ms so it can behave more like a CRT light gun... So how much higher we talking about approximately?
@albertwilliams9782 Just for screen visible stuff like the PlayStation Time Crisis Project Titan calibration screen and the like, which applies flattening (which takes time). There the latency is different for the X- and y-axis. I can look up the exact numbers when I am back home, but I recall them being near 77 ms for y and 108 ms or so for x (Guntu calibration screen was used, running at 30 FPS, so far from ideal, I will have to retry with a 60 FPS game). So slower than the Aimtrak even (32 ms).
@@Boojakascha oh no no, I'm just trying to get a rough estimate, so the average processing time was around 7 ms in your Sinden gun right? Does that mean latency of 7 ms? I'm just trying to make sure I'm getting these things correct here lol
@@albertwilliams9782 no, this 7-11 ms portion of lag is just the processing time caused by the efficiancy of his code. The total number contains the framerate and exposure settings of his camera. So plus 17 ms for "perfect" conditions, but technically more. At a 15 kHz screen you will end up with 47 ms of latency with the Sinden Lightgun.
Official pre-made guns and kits are available soon. If you can't wait, you can contract a modder. On JayBee's Discord there are at least two individuals who offer pre-made controllers for sale (Gustavo "GustavoALara" and Ray "magicray1028").
could I ask you to make a gun for me? after seeing your review on the sinden lightgun and still waiting for it to arrive might as well invest in the best.
Your precision design is excellent. It almost seems like you are Swiss. 😂 I know the irony doesn't translate, but I couldn't figure out how to say it in German.
@@Boojakascha tried just about everything at this point. Fullscreen different res, un-installed testarted re installed all the c++ and dx. Ran in comparability modes
You could ask that in their Discord =) Also JayBee is looking into offering pre-made controllers in the near future. The first step is selling pre-made boards for the Namco G-Con 45 and Guncon 2 if I am not mistaken.
@@Boojakascha I’d also purchase this even though I’m happy with my Sinden. I have a dozen or so light guns that could serve as donor shells for this project if I just had the know how to assemble it!
@@uksampson I suggest downloading JayBee's built instructions (pdf). After you have seen these, you can judge whether or not it's something you could learn to assemble yourself.
@@serimar You get that wrong: Oldest example of an IR reference light tracking gun (Wii like) is from 1994. Light Guns in general are way older than that. Nintendo's first console gun was distributed in 1972. If you start also considering light emitting gun controllers, than the date goes down even further!
Thanks a lot for your review Ben, you summed up my system very nicely! :)
Looking forward to sharing the upcoming updates and improvements with the community! :D
Thanks a lot for your time and energy you put into this! I am looking forward to it & I am very excited!! ^^
Since releasing the video, the system has been renamed to Gun4IR
Friend of the Channel @wallmachine just found out, that if you use 68.0 ohms resistors, rather than the 48.7 ohms ones I envisioned, you can power the LED boards by 5 V rather than 4 V DC. This is super convenient as many people own plenty of 5 V sources due to their phones & portable devices needing the same voltage.
Can you link all the stuff i need to buy for the gun4ir? I wanna put it in a tc4 gun..also a tutorial would be cool or pics step by step:)
@@kevinthorn9672 It's very modular if you think of it:
- multiple micro controllers are suited
- DF Robot cam or any other donor that uses the same sensor
- USB cable (usally micro B is needed)
- Several possibilities to do the light sources.
I therefore suggest JayBee's written manual as a starting point to decide what parts to get.
Wow, what a great product! Amazing in-depth review like always, really enjoyed it!
Thank you very much! I am glad you liked the video! =)
Awesome again. When I've finished writing my new frontend, this is high on my list to return to. Set up a couple of aimtraks a number of years ago. Time feels right for a refresh...
Thank you, kind Sir!
I have the "Arcadeguns" variant of the Aimtrak. If you use a small screen, stay far away and keep super stationary, there are tons of fun to be had =)
Thank you for sharing this project and your board files for the IR reference lights! it looks like it works really well, I hadn't realised the Wii's camera was capable of such good results. Looks like I've got a project for the Christmas break! :)
Thank you very much, Ben! To me it was a shock aswell^^ Nintendo, the big international company, got far, far surpassed by an enthusiast and his spare time project, eventhough using similar hardware! XD
Glad to hear you give it a shot! I am sure you will love it! =)
I have decided to force myself to learn soldering. I did the same with welding years ago and enjoyed many fun projects. I am tired of paying others to do work I can learn myself. I have all 5he parts to buildy own guns, sitting in a box for months. Thank again you for your continued amazing content Ben!
That sounds exciting :D if you haven't yet ordered soldering gear I would recommend you lead containing rosin core solder, over the more modern lead-free stuff. Yes, lead is not healthy. But it melts better, wets better and is a better start for beginners. You can use the silver stuff later, when you are proficient :D
Phenomenal custom work.
Thank you very much! Compared to what other users did (force feedback and lights) my controller is a bit puristic. But I wanted it to be clean and simple =) Also my flat is too thin-walled to use proper solenoid driven force feedback frequently^^
@@Boojakascha love your setup
@@wallmachine8780 Thank you, kind Sir! =)
I had too much hope for the Sinden. I will order this in kit form. I thank you again.
I am allowed to see sneak peeks of the prototypes. They are turning out lovely! I am super excited.
I'm interested on the bluetooth developement, as I'v been told that wireless guns won't accept being flashed as Mouse/Keyboard but as Controller, wich is not very convenient
I suggest checking out Jean-Baptiste's project on Arcade Controls Forum, JB's discord or facebook. Unfortunately I don't know the state of his bluetooth solution by heart. As far as I know it has been done and is ready to be used.
Wooo! Fantastic test, review, video and subject!!!!!! I am really happy you made one of these lightguns!!!!
I have few questions because I already bought special 940nm ir led+ all the stuff to create a 4 ir led system for purpose testing with my wiimotes. ( 2 month ago).
Do I need to use the software of jaybee? I knew that the df-robot camera was like a Nintendo wii remote camera, so my plan was to make a try directly for my wiimote. The only thing I don't know is if it's mandatory or not to use the jaybee's software with this 4 ir led system.
Thanks for this awesome video booj!!! 😀👏👏👍.
Actually my software isn't needed for other things than flashing the firmware or setting various options, but once it's setup you can use the gun on anything ;)
But be careful, you also need to build the hardware for this system, it won't work with a wiimote.
@@ginzuemulation9265 Thank you very much for the kind words! =)
You see, it needs the firmware in the micro controller. It won't work on a standard Wii remote. But you can use it as a parts donor as substitute for the DF Robot cam. As JayBee already said you wont need his GUI, but I highly recommend it still! It's just about 1500 yen and is a very useful diagnostic and setup tool. Also the purchase supports this fantastic project a little bit!
You mention in this video that prior to the Gun4IR you used to use the Arcade Guns variant of the Aimtrak. How exactly do those compare to the Ultimarc version?
Just minor differences: Arcadeguns uses an original shell, while Aimtrak copied the G-Con 45 (GunCon 1). Both vendors use an own "skin" for the same software. Both guns work, within their limitations, quite nicely. I like them both =)
Hey! Really appreciate the video! One aspect that has scared me about Jaybees system was the amount of diy work involved. Specifically the led system, I think I could hopefully handle the gun stuff. So it was great to see that you’ve designed a little pcb board and provided the files for it! Now my question is where can I take these files to get made? I’m in Canada and would prefer someone local but will ship internationally if needed. I don’t even know what to google in terms of someone that could make these things lol. Any help is greatly appreciated!
Thank you very much! You can look locally for "PCB prototyping" or "PCB print service". Then you send them the Eagle file or the Gerber files. Personally I have my stuff printed by a company called Eurocircuits, usually in Belgium. But they also offer printing via India, so this could be attractive to you, because as soon as it's far outsourced it's not important anymore where the intermediate person is located. Also famous is seeedstudio, which is located in China.
@@Boojakascha Hey thanks for the reply! Just a question, I've found a decent site called PCBWay that offers not only to manufacture the PCBs but can assemble them as well...again being completely new to all this, does this mean they will source all the necessary components as well and ship boards basically ready to plug and play? This option seems cheaper than buying components from Mouser so I feel like its too good to be true. This would be ideal as I wouldn't have to buy a soldering gun or solder or make any mistakes! If not, I have your components list for Mouser but not sure of quantities lol
@@CanadianRyGuy I have never worked with a printer who solders, but they exist! A friend of mine worked with a combo provider. Typically those companies provide the components themselves. I would be surprised though if they also glue on the heat sink to the board. If you don't plan to use screw couplers, you will have to solder anyways as the cable harness is custom. If you find a provider who solders the boards, it could still be a good thing, as it's SMD. Beginners struggle with SMD.
Per board:
3 LEDs
3 resistors
1 Molex Pico Blade socket
Amazing video!!! Hi Boojakascha, I do have a question. I'm a little confused on which files to use to have the pcb boards printed. Would I use the "g_IR-LEDpads" or "IR-LEDpads" files or both sets?
Thank you very much! You would use either of them, but not both. The g ones are GERBER files, which are very established. The brd file is a Eagle file and is what I am usually using.
@@Boojakascha Thank you! I just ordered the boards. I can't wait to start working on this project :)
@@princesspeach5308 I am curious to hear about your progress =)
Thanks for the review Ben. Lots of choices now. If you had an arcade crt cabinet running mame, would you recommend this or an aimtrak or Sinden or an act-labs?
This.
I don't have a Sinden yet, but that one has white boarders and doesn't have the force feedback and light options the JB 4PLG has.
I love the Aimtrak, but it's just good on small displays playing at rather high distance (higher than what people are used to on arcades).
Act Labs is really cool, but just works perfectly on games that offer additional in-game calibration. Else there are slight inaccuracies. Also it doesn't track continiously which shortens the list of suitable games. Also it has the white flash some people dislike.
I love the idea behind this project, I own a wii and the light gun input lag it's very noticeable and off-putting, unfortunately I suck at DIY projects, would be awesome if JB would sell pre-made guns with his quality standards in mind.
Apparently he is indeed looking into offering kits and complete guns soon =)
@@Boojakascha I'm here from Batocera Nation looking for a decent light gun which is affordable
@@BMPK Did you look into Zapper clones? I would argue those are the cheapest.
@@Boojakascha basically anything that will plug into a PC emulation station. I'm checking your video "Reviews 217" rn wish me luck
@@BMPK Awesome =)
Can I ask if you are going to get a Sinden light gun? I heard he is not shipping to western euope yet and there might be import issues. Excellent and unique content, as always Ben!
Yes, I ordered the recoil version. That one is delayed as he ran out of storage :-S. Firmware needs rewriting now, which sucks for this hardware revision as there he left away the interface. Thanks a lot! =)
@@Boojakascha Yes I hope to get mine in January I think. I chose to go without the recoil and get two guns.
@@milkapeismilky5464 Awesome! I am curious to hear what you and your son think about it! :D
@@Boojakascha I feel the same, looking forward to your evaluation. You're by far the most expert on light guns I've ever seen. Once PS2 emulation is a bit farther along, I think the Sinden gun will be the best commercial solution. But I still love playing on the old console too! I've got my kid hooked, as well.
@@milkapeismilky5464 Thank you, that's a very kind thing to say =)
Hi, the boards you have made for this project are great and thank you for sharing them. I am looking to making one myself, are all 4 boards powered by the same power supply? If they are how have you connected the multiple picoblade cables to it? Thanks
Thank you, Matthew =)
Yes, all are powered by the same single supply. The wire harness has "Y" segments or crossings so to speak :D
You can twist wires to do so, but I recommend soldering them.
@@Boojakascha Thank you so much for the information. If the 68 ohms resistors were used and the boards run on 5V power supply would 1 amp on the power supply be enough or would you recommend higher amperage? Thanks :-)
@@matthewstock6503 1 A is sufficient. The original boards ran 0.23 A using the 48.7 ohms resistors at 5 V. With 68 ohms the current will be even lower, so no problem at all =)
@@Boojakascha Thank you thats great, on your clone gcon did you make a custom ir perspex to replace the optical lens or did you buy one from somewhere?
@@matthewstock6503 I removed the lens and used the DF robot cam directly. Sometimes I use a wide angle lens though.
whats the difference between the g_IR-LEDpads and IR-LEDpads files is it just different software to print the pcb? how do you connect them all to one location?
Yes, exactly. The g_* stuff is "Gerber" which is an image like format. It's historically relevant but not flexible. The .brd is an Eagle board file, which I deem superior as it's changeable =)
@@Boojakascha thanks. with the PCB layout, what dimensions, layers and thickness did you select? and can you link to the power supply used for the LEDs?
@@wallmachine8780 It's 2 layers and you can go for the thickness that is cheapest at your vendour. Probably 1.55 mm or 1 mm. I went for 1 mm. Dimensions I don't know by heart. Around 19 mm. Your vendour should be able to figure out himself and else this is a severe warning not to deal with them! ;-)
With "how you connect them" you mean the Gerbers, right? Vendours will receive an archive file of multiple files. They need all of them. .zip or .rar are fine usually =)
Any 4 VDC power supply with sufficient current will do the trick, but here is an example link: www.ebay.com/itm/4V-2A-AC-DC-Power-Supply-Replacement-Adapter-with-1-0mm-x-2-4mm-Tip-Center/361431484610
@@Boojakascha struggling to find 4 VDC in australia do you think this would be strong enough but not to hot? www.radioparts.com.au/product/33774370/sm403-4.5v-300ma-power-supply-switchmode-1.35mm-0.3a#.X5g5s4gzaUk
This is an exciting review. Do you know whether it's compatible with any MiSTer FPGA cores at this point in time?
I think it is! You might want to ask JayBee, who is in the comments here too! The system works as a self contained mouse. As long as your system supports somewhat recent mouse drivers, it's likely to support the JB 4PLG (now Gun4IR). This & JayBee is a huge MiSTer fan =)
That's great to hear. I understand the Sinden light gun works with certain cores, so it would make sense this can also.
Not sure how I missed this…good video. Is this your favorite?
My favorite is the real GunCon 2 on a CRT =)
But the Gun4IR is my favorite among the contemporary systems. I think it is the solution in a future without CRTs.
@@Boojakascha would you ever consider selling a gun4ir-type Lightgun to a loyal subscriber? Lol
@@Alex-oy6wb Probably. I will buy examples of the upcoming kit versions to review them, but I guess I will stick with the gun of this video for actually playing.
@@Boojakascha I can’t wait. Please put me on your list of potential buyers
Great videos! Do you have a Sinden Lightgun? Couldn't find a trace of it on your channel and found it to be strange ))
I ordered the force feedback version which sadly is delayed :-(
@@Boojakascha I see. Looking forward to your review ))
@@BorisFavorov Thank you very much, kind Sir =)
excellent video as usual. is the gun suitable for mame, wii emu, demul, etc?
Thanks a lot, Német!
Yes! In fact the synchronization of force feedback and/or arcade marquee light behavior to the gun is just possible in Mame. DemulShooter does work and Wii emulators should work, but I haven't tired them =)
What's happening at 11:45 after you off screen reload and go to shoot, none of your shots show up?
It always works in that footage. The available bullets are the chilly looking objects at the bottom left hand side =)
@@Boojakascha I know what the bullets are at the bottom left, but two of them are shot and there is no shot marker where you're aiming on screen. Thought there was no lag?
I still disagree. Can you check your time stamp? Or maybe you don't quite understand the perspective the scene was filmed in? I load with the gun aiming down.
@@Boojakascha I know the gun is loaded while pointing down and shooting off screen. I'm asking about after that when you shoot two times, there's no shots on the screen? The time stamp is right.
I am sorry Sir, now I get you. You see, Mad Bullets is a low budget indie game. It is meant to be played with a mouse and thus offers a cursor to aim. Therefore not all misfired shots yield in a indicator halo or faux bullet hole. No indicator is needed when played as intended. Personally I override the cursor file with a blank file, which is completely empty, to get rid of the on screen cross hair. A light gun version for the Sure Shot HD was planned/announced but never released.
At 4:17 what light gun are you using?
It's the G/C-2 Light Blaster by game•elements, Gemini:
th-cam.com/video/bxCuOfd5mHo/w-d-xo.html
I spent the night playing with my Sinden Lightgun and while it works okay I HATE the forced border, and the Guncon 2 is the best feeling light gun ever made. I'm gonna have to sit down and convert two Guncon 2s to Gun4IR at some point.
It takes a lot of the screen estate, doesn't it :-( Hopefully dedicated games will do a better job incorporating boarders in the future =)
I agree, I love the G-Con 2 =) I am sure your Gun4IR will turn out great!
@@Boojakascha yeah! Poking around now for the information. Gonna write off the cost of the sinden as a loss, the border kills it
@@Fahrenheit38 What are your thoughts on the Sinden shell, besides you like the GunCon 2 better?
Question for you can you build me one and how much would you charge, i want to use a gun shell i found on aliexpress
Dear Amir, sadly I don't offer modding services for hire. I would recommend you to recruit a modder in the Arcade Controls forum (link in description) or in JayBee's discord channel =) From what I have seen several people used a Aliexpress gun, just like you are planning! :-P
@@Boojakascha also i was one of the first people to get a usb2gun all the way in 2011, do you want it, i had no idea what i was doing lol
I have seen your videos on it! If you are willing to sell it, I am interested for sure! What kind of price do you have in mind? From where will it be shipped? I am located in Switzerland.
@@Boojakascha hi i am in the uk, as you are very passionate, and people will kill me for doing this, as they have tried buying this from me for a long time, i know it will find a good home in yours, so just shipping cost :)
This is very, very generous, Amir! But are you sure? The last one I have seen on ebay went for 300 USD. They are worth a lot of money!
Hey hey hey, so I been tryna tweak my Sinden out a bit. U said u rather have ur gun4ir system slightly higher latency than 4 ms so it can behave more like a CRT light gun... So how much higher we talking about approximately?
I can't quite recall the Gun4IR number. It's the fastest system by far though. Faster than CRT for sure.
@@Boojakascha ah ok ok, u know how many milliseconds it is for CRT gun?
@albertwilliams9782 Just for screen visible stuff like the PlayStation Time Crisis Project Titan calibration screen and the like, which applies flattening (which takes time). There the latency is different for the X- and y-axis. I can look up the exact numbers when I am back home, but I recall them being near 77 ms for y and 108 ms or so for x (Guntu calibration screen was used, running at 30 FPS, so far from ideal, I will have to retry with a 60 FPS game). So slower than the Aimtrak even (32 ms).
@@Boojakascha oh no no, I'm just trying to get a rough estimate, so the average processing time was around 7 ms in your Sinden gun right? Does that mean latency of 7 ms? I'm just trying to make sure I'm getting these things correct here lol
@@albertwilliams9782 no, this 7-11 ms portion of lag is just the processing time caused by the efficiancy of his code. The total number contains the framerate and exposure settings of his camera. So plus 17 ms for "perfect" conditions, but technically more. At a 15 kHz screen you will end up with 47 ms of latency with the Sinden Lightgun.
Is there anywhere I could purchase this pre-made and all setup for me? I don't really want to mess with building it
Official pre-made guns and kits are available soon. If you can't wait, you can contract a modder. On JayBee's Discord there are at least two individuals who offer pre-made controllers for sale (Gustavo "GustavoALara" and Ray "magicray1028").
I havn't seen anyone do this, but does the jb4ir/gun4ir system support two player or just single player?
It's two players compatible =)
@@Boojakascha thank you for getting to me so quickly.
@@jesse4828 You are very welcome!
Man! Next life I would like to born intelligent as guys like you (Pliz God)
The Gun4IR was made by Jean-Baptiste Bongrand. He is the genious :P
Does it work with retropie on raspberry?
Yes. The GUI won't though..But you can set it up on Windows and then play on Linux no problem =D
could I ask you to make a gun for me? after seeing your review on the sinden lightgun and still waiting for it to arrive might as well invest in the best.
I don't offer any modding service. I suggest to raise your request in JayBee's Discord server or post in a video game forum or facebook group =)
Is it possible to have two guns for multiplayer?
Yes, it's two guns compatible =)
@@Boojakascha Excellent, thank you for your reply 😊
@@LukeDuddridge you are very welcome!
What game is this 2:57?
It's called "Mad Bullets" =)
Your precision design is excellent. It almost seems like you are Swiss. 😂 I know the irony doesn't translate, but I couldn't figure out how to say it in German.
Hihi, thanks! In fact we use similar sentences for situations like this, so it actually works! =)
What's the name of game of your test? :)
Hi Giuseppe, the game is called "Mad Bullets" and is available on Steam =)
@@Boojakascha thanks :)
Очень хорошие видео. Здоровья тебе и творческих успехов.
Спасибо, бот!
Это очень удобно для автоматической публикации.
Anyone know what game he's playing there? the wild west looking one? - redacted, found it! "mad bullets"
It's called Mad Bullets and available on Steam for about 3 USD.
Now if only i could get it working on wondows 10... i read about needing 2010 c++ bit i know inalready have it. Game crashes on boot
@@zExoRandArcade
For me it runs on Windows 10. I never heard about it having crash issues. Could you try playing windowed in native resolution?
@@Boojakascha tried just about everything at this point. Fullscreen different res, un-installed testarted re installed all the c++ and dx. Ran in comparability modes
@@zExoRandArcade Very strange. Do you have the most current Direct X? What graphics card are you using?
Man, anyone willing to build this for me? I'll pay
You could ask that in their Discord =)
Also JayBee is looking into offering pre-made controllers in the near future. The first step is selling pre-made boards for the Namco G-Con 45 and Guncon 2 if I am not mistaken.
@@Boojakascha I’d also purchase this even though I’m happy with my Sinden. I have a dozen or so light guns that could serve as donor shells for this project if I just had the know how to assemble it!
@@uksampson I suggest downloading JayBee's built instructions (pdf). After you have seen these, you can judge whether or not it's something you could learn to assemble yourself.
Nintendo zappee dropped 1984
sure^^ What do you think the video claimed?
@@Boojakascha the oldest light gun you knew of was made in 1994
@@serimar You get that wrong: Oldest example of an IR reference light tracking gun (Wii like) is from 1994. Light Guns in general are way older than that. Nintendo's first console gun was distributed in 1972. If you start also considering light emitting gun controllers, than the date goes down even further!