+David Siddons They did last year but I don't think they're doing it this year. Its a shame because that Indycar Auto Club race I watched last year was one of the best races I have ever seen. That's counting NASCAR too
I was at Chicago in 2009 and that was my first ever IndyCar race and I was at Kentucky in 2011 when they raced there for the final time and saw Carpenter win his first ever race
@MetalMastodon IndyCar hasn''t done a very good job of marketing themselves on TV over the past few years so casual fans actually know well ahead of time when the races are. I'm not a hardcore IndyCar fan so I usually don't know they're even having a race until a couple days prior. When you watch a NASCAR race, they're already promoting races 2 and 3 months ahead on the schedule throughout the entire race. IndyCar doesn't do that. It may get mentioned once over the course of an IndyCar broadcast. Furthermore, whenever IndyCar hits on a fantastic oval package like they did from about 2013-2016, all the drivers complain that the cars are racing too close together. I got new for them...that's called great racing. If you don't want to be racing door to door with someone then why are you out there. That's what fans want to see. Not single file follow the leader and then pass them on pit strategy.
Now Kanaan and Dixon are the only ones left! Wheldon is of course dead. Dario is retired after a crash at Houston, and Helio is now in sports cars, but even without three of these guys, IndyCar still has a pretty great group of drivers!
+Empty Box I Completely agree. These old IRL speedway races after the "crapwagon" era followed the same style as plate racing in the tin-tops. Its white-knucked follow the leader for 90% of the race, with 5 laps of pure chaos to finish. I much prefer the lower downforce approach taken with the new Dallara for the speedways. That being said, it will be interesting to see how the race at Phoenix plays out compared to the old layout, as the lap times in testing were not far off the lap records set in '95 and '96.
There are three things I noticed about this, hornish is involved in almost every photo finish, Scott Dixon always gets the short end of the stick in these finishes, and they are all at Chicagoland
I really hate that nobody is returning to Chicagoland, that had most of the finishes on this list and at the very least Indycar should’ve stayed when nascar left
I really wish when I was younger in the late 90s to early 00s I had watched cart/Indy races the oval races here are so much better compared to this single file racing they do now on ovals and can’t draw a huge crowd anymore.
I dont see the point of remembering these good old times if indy car is scared of running in ovals now, face it, indycar will never be the same on road courses
Actually none of them are closer than the closest Nascar finish. I don't know why you want to say specifically Daytona because that doesn't make any sense to only pick and choose 1 track when this has multiple tracks featured.
I miss this package. I know it has caused some wrecks at tracks Indycar should never have been at, but for places with near spotless records like Chicagoland and Kansas I wish they brought it back
+subrosabmx94 Because it belongs to the International Speeway Corporation, that's owned by NASCAR. IndyCar left ISC tracks after 2011. Now they are returning to Phoenix. Let's hope we can get Chicagoland and Michigan back too
+Kite Texas is faster than Chicagoland would be. Then again, with the DW12 Texas has been consistently one of the most unexciting races on the calendar.... The stupidity that led up to that Las Vegas race in 2011 isn't even close to what we would see today unless Indycar decided to let them run stupid levels of downforce like at Fontana last year. It'd take a pretty colossal screw up to do that again. 1.5 mile tracks aren't the problem, the problem was the stupid pack racing which has been fixed thanks to more proper downforce levels and tire wear.
Kite Fontana was due to Indycar allowing too much downforce for the weather, like they were warned. They got it wrong, but I'd not consider that the norm at all - had it been 15-20 degrees warmer (which IIRC that race was on a pretty "cool" day by middle of the day in SoCal standards....) it could have been a different story. Chicagoland is also lower banked, 24 degrees vs 18 degrees. They'd really need to flub it with the newer cars to get a pack on a 1.5 miler now, especially with the tires falling off quite a lot now. I'd like to see them return there, I'd make the trip over. (Let's put it this way, the Indy Fixed crowd couldn't do 3 laps without imploding the field in the old car, now I complain I need a caution the DW12 strings out so much! lol)
7:45 "24 thousands of a second" means 0.024 seconds, not 0.0024 seconds. I guess that means all the numbers in this video is wrong? One zero too much in every number?
This series has got to get Chicagoland and Kentucky back on the schedule. There's others that need to return as well, but those two first and foremost.
You'd think that the inside line was the sure way to victory but 9/10 of these were from round the outside. Would be interesting to see the difference in g forces, distance travelled and speed variations between 1 and 2 in some of these finishes and have a scientific explanation of them
“Baron takes the win from Second Place!” Um, this makes it seem like he won the race while in second place. Like yeah, you normally pass the person in first when you are in second. It’s how people take the lead. Guess the guy was too excited to care how he said it.
+Pj Rohe But why Barber specifically, why not any of the 6 other road course events or if you'd include them among road courses any of the 5 races on 4 street courses? I agree that we could do with some more good ovals. I'm not entirely sure that adding Kansas and Kentucky, Fontana and Michigan helps the variety given how similar these pairs are (they were both meant to look alike), but if they're good events I can deal with some ovals being alike. Whatever the case, Barber is a good event and getting rid of just this event only because you don't particularly like ovals doesn't seem like a good idea.
There are some tracks "road courses" that indy has gone too for a very very long time. I went to may races in chicagoland both indy and nascar the nascar races there are a snoozefest it is like that track was built specifically for indycars so if they bring back races to chicago or Fontana/Michigan that would be awesome. Have you ever been to the Indianapolis 500? uf you are a real racing fan i suggest you go at least 1 tine i have gone to every year since 2001 and have ony seen 2 bad indy 500's 04 and 07 both because they were rain shortened,,,,
Since these were all the older ear if cars with simple aero I'm guessing that the new modern cars with high tech aero either just cant run side by side or one person's car always dominates the others.
+TheBlackdragonnight The old cars had huge amounts of downforce and not that much power - many of the tracks in this video were pretty much foot to the floor, brick the throttle affairs. Basically the same thing as NASCAR restrictor plate racing - almost no one can get away because no car is fast enough to do it. Within the ovals they mandate pretty heavily now how much downforce can be run on cars by setting maximum wing angles and what underwing / diffuser parts can be run by the teams on a per track basis. They could pack race, but they choose not to because it's stupidly dangerous and the racing is pretty much "draw out of a hat" garbage.
The second clip--look at the size of that crowd in Kansas. Merger or no merger, what the hell has happened to warrant such a drop off in attendance at live races?!?!
Sam Hornish really had a thing for photo finishes
Yea he was a really bad ass driver back then
Ingrid michealson
Dalejr88rox then Nascar came along.
As.
scott dixon too
I love how little Helio seems to care that he won against Dixon in victory lane, lmao.
Now anybody would in 2020
some say he still outside...
I wonder how they feel like: "Now i'm 1 million dollars richer than 1 second ago.."
that's only the indy 500 right?
not all the races
@@lightningmcdweeb the million dollars was for winning the championship.
80% of that goes to the team, sponsor, etc
bring back Chicagoland
+Zachary DeCiancio And Kentucky, Michigan, Auto Club and Kansas
+2016 NASCAR Crashes & Finish's They still do autoclub speedway.
+David Siddons They did last year but I don't think they're doing it this year. Its a shame because that Indycar Auto Club race I watched last year was one of the best races I have ever seen. That's counting NASCAR too
+2016 NASCAR Crashes & Finish's I agree, that is sad and that was a great race even though they finished on yellow.
+David Siddons Yeah, but there was a flip so it evens out lol
I don't care what anyone says, the 4-wide finish in the Freedom at Indy deserves to be here. Even if placed under "Honorable Mentions".
what about this year's freedom 100 then? it was pretty amazing
No this is about the closest not the coolest. Coolest is based on opinions, but closest is based on facts.
@@gummy_6437 the 4 wide finish he mentioned was .0026 seconds, thereby placing it in second on this list.
Sam Hornish jr. had a lot of photo-finishhes))
I was at Chicago in 2009 and that was my first ever IndyCar race and I was at Kentucky in 2011 when they raced there for the final time and saw Carpenter win his first ever race
The reaction of Castroneves and Dixon is awesome. Just having fun after battling inches away at 220 mph !!
Note how with the exception of Texas, none of these tracks are on the schedule anymore.
I wish open wheeled racing would come back to Michigan!
@@twan313 We all do, my friend.
outside outside outside outside outside outside outside outside outside outside outside outside.....
-Me: PLS STOP!
Do you just not understand the importance of a spotter?
If you don't like this dont watch it
@@daviddonnell2153 it was a joke dude
i mean if hes saying that hes outside, he doesnt need to say it every second. once he says "clear" thats when you know he isnt there.
inininininin
Moral of the story: Indycar, PLEASE go to more ovals
@MetalMastodon IndyCar hasn''t done a very good job of marketing themselves on TV over the past few years so casual fans actually know well ahead of time when the races are. I'm not a hardcore IndyCar fan so I usually don't know they're even having a race until a couple days prior. When you watch a NASCAR race, they're already promoting races 2 and 3 months ahead on the schedule throughout the entire race. IndyCar doesn't do that. It may get mentioned once over the course of an IndyCar broadcast. Furthermore, whenever IndyCar hits on a fantastic oval package like they did from about 2013-2016, all the drivers complain that the cars are racing too close together. I got new for them...that's called great racing. If you don't want to be racing door to door with someone then why are you out there. That's what fans want to see. Not single file follow the leader and then pass them on pit strategy.
@@kodyhightower1903 even here in latin america they don't broadcast Indy anymore
I miss the good old days of Hornish whose my favorite and the other greats racing it out with him like Weldon, Dario, Helio, Kanan, and Dixon
Now Kanaan and Dixon are the only ones left! Wheldon is of course dead. Dario is retired after a crash at Houston, and Helio is now in sports cars, but even without three of these guys, IndyCar still has a pretty great group of drivers!
@ClintBoy14 Not full-time anymore jsut the Indy 500 now, and Tony Kanaan will be retiring soon as well
Bring Back Chicagoland and Kansas
Watching this makes f1 look like you're watching grass grow
but has only ovals is boring
davp11 only a third of the Indycar calendar is ovals
@@Trainmaster909 yes i meant only this video
@@davp11 There's nothing boring about this video. These are all better racing clips than you'd get at any road course.
@@davp11 Are just ovals, but the presition of the pilot and the spotter it's amizing
Shots fired.
Still don't miss the older cars.
I don't either, I just miss the V8's
+Empty Box
I miss the late '90s- early '00s CARTs ;)
+Empty Box I Completely agree. These old IRL speedway races after the "crapwagon" era followed the same style as plate racing in the tin-tops. Its white-knucked follow the leader for 90% of the race, with 5 laps of pure chaos to finish. I much prefer the lower downforce approach taken with the new Dallara for the speedways. That being said, it will be interesting to see how the race at Phoenix plays out compared to the old layout, as the lap times in testing were not far off the lap records set in '95 and '96.
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Just CART in general, no need to specify. :)0
oh hai empty box :3
"Looking high. High. Car high. High. High. High. High." HELLO SPOTTER, HOW YA DOIN
There are three things I noticed about this, hornish is involved in almost every photo finish, Scott Dixon always gets the short end of the stick in these finishes, and they are all at Chicagoland
I wish Paul Page could call one race on NBCSN with Paul Tracy and Townsend Bell.
I really hate that nobody is returning to Chicagoland, that had most of the finishes on this list and at the very least Indycar should’ve stayed when nascar left
From 7:04 You remember when the Seats were Full when Indycar held a Race? Nevermind.
Fr!
ChrisK y not anymore?
Why wasn't the Firestone 600 Texas Motor Speedway, 2016 finish at 0.0008 of a second on here?
Chairdom this video was uploaded before that
What a great video! Can't wait to see those Indycars flying around the track again.
2006 Homestead indycar race also has a closest finish as well between Castroneves and Wheldon.
Finally a great video well done
Ah yes, a time when Marlboro was buying tickets to give away and there were actually people at the oval races.
I really wish when I was younger in the late 90s to early 00s I had watched cart/Indy races the oval races here are so much better compared to this single file racing they do now on ovals and can’t draw a huge crowd anymore.
i'm here after 4 years to say... he still outside! outside! outside! outside! outside! outside! outside! outside!
I dont see the point of remembering these good old times if indy car is scared of running in ovals now, face it, indycar will never be the same on road courses
good thing the Indy 500 will always exist
These aren't the good old times.
Ovals are boring though...
CART was the good old times
Indy needs to return to Chicagoland! What a great speedway!
Chicagoland was so much fun 💔
It’s so disappointing that Indycar has almost abandoned all oval tracks.
This video would be so much more enjoyable if the winner wasn't spoiled in the descriptions.
Amazing Video 🔝🏁🏎
Legend has it that to this day he is still outside
Bring back more oval racing!! I loved this racing!!
Amazing finishes 👏👏👏👏
What about that CART Michigan 500?
Interesting how they make the video right after the closest finish in Nascar history yesterday at the Daytona 500. Just saying.
I was just going to say this
Wasn't closest in nascar history Ricky craven and Kurt Busch finished 0.002 seconds apart at darlington in 2002
+RipCurlRules2188 2003 actually but yes. That and the 2011 Aaron's 499.
People were asking for it
Not in history. Just 500 history.
They need to bring back Chicago, seemed like every other race was a photo finish
Wow @ 2:35 that is insane
Now we can add Texas 2016 to this list. :)
NÃO PERDE MAIS TONY
I'm no expert, but like 6 out of 10 are in Chicagoland. Does anyone care to explain why that oval is so good for close finishes?
Indycar really needs to bring back Chicagoland
Chicagoland Speedway gave us some unbelievable races...... and now it sits empty!
2008 Peak Antifreeze 300:H3lio cross finish line first but Chip Ganassi doing a cheat by locating the transponder upside down.
i saw sam hornish pass 4 wide on the outside of 1 and 2 at richmond in the pennzoil car no bullshit, he was fearless in an indycar.
@5:20 - VITOR MEIRA WON THAT RACE!!!!!!
PURE AND SIMPLE, END OF STORY!!!!!!
and most of these are closer then the closest daytona finish
True Racer all of them actually
Well yeah, they’re faster.
Actually none of them are closer than the closest Nascar finish. I don't know why you want to say specifically Daytona because that doesn't make any sense to only pick and choose 1 track when this has multiple tracks featured.
I miss this package. I know it has caused some wrecks at tracks Indycar should never have been at, but for places with near spotless records like Chicagoland and Kansas I wish they brought it back
This is a kind of IndyCar racing fans want!
I saw the Kentucky race in person. I'm pretty sure it was the last time Indy raced at Kentucky.
Great racing i loved the IRL
Proof that Chicagoland is an amazing track.
I hope they make a road/street course edition of closest Indycar finishes.
Oh yeah watching a finish of 3 car lengths at a road course is definitely more exciting than a side by side drag race to the line at an oval.
like all these are at Chicago. why the hell don't they still race there
+subrosabmx94 Because it belongs to the International Speeway Corporation, that's owned by NASCAR. IndyCar left ISC tracks after 2011. Now they are returning to Phoenix. Let's hope we can get Chicagoland and Michigan back too
Yeah, you are right. 1.5 mile ovals came to IndyCar on the '96, with the slower IRL cars. But current cars are too fast for those ovals.
+Kite Texas is faster than Chicagoland would be. Then again, with the DW12 Texas has been consistently one of the most unexciting races on the calendar....
The stupidity that led up to that Las Vegas race in 2011 isn't even close to what we would see today unless Indycar decided to let them run stupid levels of downforce like at Fontana last year. It'd take a pretty colossal screw up to do that again.
1.5 mile tracks aren't the problem, the problem was the stupid pack racing which has been fixed thanks to more proper downforce levels and tire wear.
Kite
Fontana was due to Indycar allowing too much downforce for the weather, like they were warned. They got it wrong, but I'd not consider that the norm at all - had it been 15-20 degrees warmer (which IIRC that race was on a pretty "cool" day by middle of the day in SoCal standards....) it could have been a different story.
Chicagoland is also lower banked, 24 degrees vs 18 degrees.
They'd really need to flub it with the newer cars to get a pack on a 1.5 miler now, especially with the tires falling off quite a lot now.
I'd like to see them return there, I'd make the trip over.
(Let's put it this way, the Indy Fixed crowd couldn't do 3 laps without imploding the field in the old car, now I complain I need a caution the DW12 strings out so much! lol)
+Lucas Stinziano and the Milwaukee Mile too they need to get that back and Richmond
The video is very epic. Epic, epic, epic, epic
7:45 "24 thousands of a second" means 0.024 seconds, not 0.0024 seconds. I guess that means all the numbers in this video is wrong? One zero too much in every number?
The numbers are correct, indycar measures down to a ten thousandth of a second. Commentator just read it wrong.
This series has got to get Chicagoland and Kentucky back on the schedule. There's others that need to return as well, but those two first and foremost.
it was so much fun when sam was in the panther 4 car especially when he was taking out the penske cars
You'd think that the inside line was the sure way to victory but 9/10 of these were from round the outside.
Would be interesting to see the difference in g forces, distance travelled and speed variations between 1 and 2 in some of these finishes and have a scientific explanation of them
ESSA CATEGORIA É A VERDADEIRA FÓRMULA 1🏁🎌!
That yellow pennzoil car was so competitive
“Baron takes the win from Second Place!”
Um, this makes it seem like he won the race while in second place. Like yeah, you normally pass the person in first when you are in second. It’s how people take the lead. Guess the guy was too excited to care how he said it.
Announcer needs to learn his decimal places. That was twenty four TEN-thousandths of a second.
What about Rick Mears and Gordon Johncock at Indy in 1982?
And still no one notices the simple numeracy error in the graphics? (sigh)
Fantastic elio castroneves
Anthony Kernich i totally agree also bring back Auto club, Kentucky, Michigan and Kansas get rid of the road course in alabama
Barber has given us some of the best races. Why would you want to get rid of it?
No offense just not a big road course fan
+Pj Rohe But why Barber specifically, why not any of the 6 other road course events or if you'd include them among road courses any of the 5 races on 4 street courses? I agree that we could do with some more good ovals. I'm not entirely sure that adding Kansas and Kentucky, Fontana and Michigan helps the variety given how similar these pairs are (they were both meant to look alike), but if they're good events I can deal with some ovals being alike. Whatever the case, Barber is a good event and getting rid of just this event only because you don't particularly like ovals doesn't seem like a good idea.
There are some tracks "road courses" that indy has gone too for a very very long time. I went to may races in chicagoland both indy and nascar the nascar races there are a snoozefest it is like that track was built specifically for indycars so if they bring back races to chicago or Fontana/Michigan that would be awesome. Have you ever been to the Indianapolis 500? uf you are a real racing fan i suggest you go at least 1 tine i have gone to every year since 2001 and have ony seen 2 bad indy 500's 04 and 07 both because they were rain shortened,,,,
if
Portland 1997?
5:48 McLaren MP4/8 is back to life
exactly what I was thinking
Sam had so many close finishes in his career that his over all margin of victory is probably like .900
2 things: Hornish Jr had an underrated career and nascar cookie cutters were great for Indy cars in the 00’s
And no indycar is all road street courses 2021 what a joke you’ll never see this action again
Since these were all the older ear if cars with simple aero I'm guessing that the new modern cars with high tech aero either just cant run side by side or one person's car always dominates the others.
+TheBlackdragonnight I guess you missed the race at Fontana last year.
+TheBlackdragonnight The old cars had huge amounts of downforce and not that much power - many of the tracks in this video were pretty much foot to the floor, brick the throttle affairs. Basically the same thing as NASCAR restrictor plate racing - almost no one can get away because no car is fast enough to do it.
Within the ovals they mandate pretty heavily now how much downforce can be run on cars by setting maximum wing angles and what underwing / diffuser parts can be run by the teams on a per track basis. They could pack race, but they choose not to because it's stupidly dangerous and the racing is pretty much "draw out of a hat" garbage.
Vitor deserved to stand at the top of the podium at least one time. Such a shame.
“There wasn’t even one fan sitting.”
So, even the people in wheelchairs got up?
y e s
Okay. :)
2nd,3rd & 4th clips I remember well
amazing
Is all of Sam Hornish Jr's finishes side by side lol
Omg now thats racing. 33 sec and 24 sec. shhesh exciting
7:50
24/1000?
More like
2,4/1000
That's why you always save your blue shell.
Excelente!!!
man I miss CART
The second clip--look at the size of that crowd in Kansas. Merger or no merger, what the hell has happened to warrant such a drop off in attendance at live races?!?!
If I were a driver in Indy Car and my spotter wouldn't shut his pie hole - *"STFU I'M NOT BLIND"*
No, you most certainly are blind in those cars. Can't see much more than what is straight ahead.
Gotta love Indycar. It's the greatest racing in the world
Man the 2002 season had some amazing finishes
This is why Indycar should run more ovals.
Com'on , they ran only in ovals during much of the Tony George era.
Notice how all the best racing and finishes were on ovals.... wake up INDYCAR!
Alec David Bauer they cant use the tracks because of the company that owns most of the tracks
That list has to be updated after the 2016 Firestone 600. Also, Rahal won that one from the inside, contrary to most of the finishes here.
What about the legendary race when Lightning McQueen one with his TONGUE?
so the outside car always win
Then Rahal wins Firestone 600 on the inside. That guy is the pied piper when Indycar goes pack racing.
Naturally the outside line has more momentum in the exit of the corner (If the track has high banking, not flat race track).
That is obvious. My point was this close ends weren't actually close
Man, Hornish was a beast.
3 very close laps in a row gives you extra points
I don't care if they bring back these old cars or not, I want a Penske VS Ganassi championship battle.
You missed the best final ever in 2000 Michigan's between Montoya and Andretti, that was a race!
Anyone know the commentator that speaks at :20?
Eddie Lynch that’s Paul Page.
bring back to Kentucky