The DA's affidavit isn't asking for the election results to be overturned or for a re-run of the elections so there's no reason for the IEC to oppose it
Looks like you don't understand what evidence means, you keep on harping on one word, the court will deal with evidence not a group of parrots. IEC and blind followers keep on repeating same word.
By that time, some MK members still in denial that MK withdrew the case and saying we are listening to SABC from Stellenboch lier. M just wondering if this was communicated to them bcz it's here☝️
🤣🤣🤣like a parrot you repeat "evidence" propaganda, they know that evidence exist but are trying to fool the weak minds. This court case will proceed, just watch this space
But we all saw what happened...results manipulated and people sent back home 😂😂😂what is free and fare about that...let's not act stupid because we hate zuma
@@silaskhalishwayo The election was not well run but that does not mean that it was not free and fair. There are small problems in every election but they don't affect the overall picture. All disputes were dealt with by the IEC and some recounts were done. There is no evidence of widespread manipulation. Your team lost. Get over it.
@@ShawnRademeyer you are neither a good listener nor a good reader; you are not following the story instead you repeat "evidence" which the culprits are using as a shield.
When have seen a lot of videos of ballot papers in trucks, South Africa you must also remember 26 parties submitted their complaint to IEC for vote rigging only MK party took the matter to court.
IEC must stop the PR exercise, MKP is coming back fully, it's a temporal withdrawal...Nkululeko Tselane must come back and talk talk talk when the matter is resubmitted in court with the additional evidence that the IEC did not want to be included....
The question is it against the law to withdraw a case and this person is he the spokes person of IEC...I have not seen this pros speak of any good in the process,, If anyone has a issue with IEC, they should be heard..
Bayiqhela kakubi IEC why withdrawal now this case should continue let them bring the evidence that they claim to be in their possession what about the reputation of the IEC ? They're running away now wearing temporary shoes
Make sure that you listen to the news nd stay updated..an Iec official was arrested for rigging votes scandal, what does that mean to you??, bt anyway ke sesiyokbona kwiCutting Edge 😂
Before you leave your stupid comment please open your ears wide...the case is not withdrawn but only the papers that they submitted, they are going to submit again including all parties they IEC robbed.
It is not evidence that is not available but IEC is capitalizing on principles and time frame on how and when IEC court is approached with evidence of vote rigging .
They should go and present those to themselves and hear that case themselves .is that difficult ?..MK has no time for obvious judicial processes with predictable outcomes
No James, it's MK that took the case to the Electoral court and they said they have evidence. Let them prove their case or stand a risk of being embarrassed 😂
A withdrawn case refers to a legal matter that has been temporarily or permanently removed from the court's docket at the request of the party who initiated it. Although the case is not currently active, it has not been fully resolved or concluded and may be reopened or refiled in the future.
But unfortunately the Electoral Court deals with urgent cases related to the election. Withdrawing their case does not bode well for the urgency component, and their case might be dismissed if the file again.
Are you living in England 😂😂😂😂we all saw votes stolen and brought back...iec screen showing wrong numbers, and people sent back home without voting 😂😂😂or you act stupid because you hate Zuma 😂
You dont withdraw a case when you have concrete evidence as they claimed they did,now they lying to their supporters saying they are fixing the case's technicalities,kudlaliwe ngeylima la
Defamation of character is very cruel is not healthy for good human beings.let’s always respect each others and the constitution of our country.we will more importantly to ourselves and others.human can course harm to others
Zuma used to rig votes. In 2014 there was vote rigging in Gauteng and EFF was most affected. But Malema didn't cry foul. So, thinks that, there was vote rigging, since he is rigger
@@mogauledwaba9629 then in 2014, Malema refused to take action. He stated that, there was gonna be blood bath and he accepted and move on. 10yrs later he's in opposition bench he cry foul cos he knows how votes are rigged
I as a member of mk need this to go to court,electoral court my decline the withdrawal.because i want to know who is advising President Zuma or its just a money making skeem for dali mpofu
@@senzomemela1311 let him go and defend,boz my problem is mk knows that the courts are against Mkp but they are busy with that instead of focusing on governing kzn
News channels always speak and make news about MK but it's unethical that it's always in their absence funny the DA is always represented when it's being talked about. I dnt like MK but this can't be ethical journalism
Again it's the media's fault. These guys brought this unto themselves. Their spokesperson kept saying they will provide evidence when they get to court, LET THEM PROVIDE IT OR FACE BEING HUMILIATED FOR LYING TO SOUTH AFRICANS. IT'S TIME POLITICIANS KNOW THAT THEY CAN'T JUST MAKE BASELESS ACCUSATIONS WITHOUT BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE. There's nothing unethical here...
Withdrawal is temporarily. Matter is legal and some aspects found to be criminal. The matter must go back to court. However, if the electoral court wants to dismiss matter by responding by means of a MEMO , then MK must witdraw case. The electorate needs a public transparent court case. MK must take the time to regroup and send matter back to court. IEC cannot be left to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result -thats INSANITY. Nor should it be allowed for electoral court to dismiss case using a memo to MK.
That's what MK is plaining to do, they said they are withdrawing the Initial application but they are going to submit another one, what is discussed here is not true reflection of what MK said
That long message and no substance 😂. The Electoral court has not responded on the matter stop with your lies. But Let's say you're right, if the evidence exists and the court decides to rule against MKP, they can always appeal to the higher court. It's precisely because they know they DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE that they want to withdraw. They can't make such serious allegations especially towards such an important institution and not provide evidence. They MUST ACCOUNT...
Lol😂😂😂, when mk wanted IEC, they were running, now mk is pulling away and IEC is running after them
You killing me bro😂😂 that’s so true
IEC never ran, that's why MK must be held to account. IT'S ABOUT TIME POLITICIANS ARE EXPOSED FOR LYING TO THE PUBLIC...
Yeah, you can't spread rumours and when it's time for evidence, you run away....MK must provide the so called evidence
You're so delusional it's unbelievable 😂😂😂😂😂
I don't remember IEC running.
All they wanted was proof..
Did MK supply proof?
Instead MK told us they will go to the International Court.
Aaaaai nani
I want this to go to court as MK member
Me too, I don't want the case withdrawn...
IEC telling MK to keep that energy.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Guest good speaker nice and clear, knows if stuff. Need more black people like him in gov.
We are not black we are Africans
IEC is running after MK now😂😂😂
Where is evidence bring forward
Clevor blacks a a problem in this country
We want to hear the case in court. Don't swipe it under the carpet
But the the DA also submitted an application to stop the case, why the IEC didn`t stop DA`s afidavid?
The DA's affidavit isn't asking for the election results to be overturned or for a re-run of the elections so there's no reason for the IEC to oppose it
DA asked Electoral Court to dismiss the case
😂😂😂 Zuma has always been such a guy... No evidence just him as a victim... Know wonder Mbeki dismissed him
That why Mbeki didn't finish his term and his cope didn't succeed as well 😂😂😂
That why Mbeki samunika 2/3 majority wangawusebenzisa that why Mbeki ayekelela abantu befa ngenxa yeHIV
Mbeki is jealous of Zuma and he will never succeed look at hi party😂
Don't believe in propaganda, evidence was all over including live videos.
Looks like you don't understand what evidence means, you keep on harping on one word, the court will deal with evidence not a group of parrots. IEC and blind followers keep on repeating same word.
Yeah, bring that evidence 😂
You repeat a clear propaganda, they overuse the term "evidence" to mislead the naive who can't see through the truth
IEC fighting ANC battles, pathetic
What are you talking about?
@carlruppert7324 What is it that it's not clear in this comment??..Yes iec is fighting anc's battle😕, and SAfricans spoken during elections
I agree with you, ANC is IEC
why did they lost votes if IEC is captured by ANC?
@@jiwwo1799 no, the IEC is fighting to clear its name against serious accussations made against it, by MK. Has nothing to do with the ANC.
By that time, some MK members still in denial that MK withdrew the case and saying we are listening to SABC from Stellenboch lier. M just wondering if this was communicated to them bcz it's here☝️
😂😂this 1ns I wish I can open their minds nd see what's happening coz wow
@@mogauledwaba9629 Difficult people indeed 🤣
All of this could've been avoided with a recount which could've just taken 3 days😏
Yes, the election WAS rigged but the MK Bantus are powerless and must shut up. They can do NOTHING.
Check mate,
Follow the case in Durban.
MK has lost credibility by not providing evidence of their claims.
🤣🤣🤣like a parrot you repeat "evidence" propaganda, they know that evidence exist but are trying to fool the weak minds. This court case will proceed, just watch this space
But we all saw what happened...results manipulated and people sent back home 😂😂😂what is free and fare about that...let's not act stupid because we hate zuma
@@bonganidumisa1458
Evidence is kind of important.
@@silaskhalishwayo The election was not well run but that does not mean that it was not free and fair.
There are small problems in every election but they don't affect the overall picture.
All disputes were dealt with by the IEC and some recounts were done.
There is no evidence of widespread manipulation.
Your team lost. Get over it.
@@ShawnRademeyer you are neither a good listener nor a good reader; you are not following the story instead you repeat "evidence" which the culprits are using as a shield.
propaganda is galore these days, niyahlekisa kodwa, you can't even hide it.
When have seen a lot of videos of ballot papers in trucks, South Africa you must also remember 26 parties submitted their complaint to IEC for vote rigging only MK party took the matter to court.
So according to you finding blank ballot papers in trucks that were going to be delivered in VD's is evidence of vote rigging😂😂😂
Siya kwi criminal court, cos labantu bantshonsthile ngokwe MK
MK should provide evidence our democracy was questioned.
Ziyakhala ke manje 😂😂😂😂😂
IEC must stop the PR exercise, MKP is coming back fully, it's a temporal withdrawal...Nkululeko Tselane must come back and talk talk talk when the matter is resubmitted in court with the additional evidence that the IEC did not want to be included....
Yes yes yes yes I support the call for IEC but will they hold ther stand if MK findings are biding
The question is it against the law to withdraw a case and this person is he the spokes person of IEC...I have not seen this pros speak of any good in the process,, If anyone has a issue with IEC, they should be heard..
Where is the evidence of 9000 mk votes that they founded in the dustbins😂
Some live evidence in Pietermaritzburg court cases
Bayiqhela kakubi IEC why withdrawal now this case should continue let them bring the evidence that they claim to be in their possession what about the reputation of the IEC ? They're running away now wearing temporary shoes
Just relax they will show the evidence ❤
Lo IEC uyathithiza zolo lokhu bene DA bebechitha isicelo ebesi fakwe Mk enkontolo iMK yenza ubuchule yathi iyalihoxisa icala ngenhloso yalokhu ukuthi benze lokhu esikufunayo ukuthi Liye e court seziyakhala ke manje 😂 sebezifake bona enkantolo 😂😂😂
Make sure that you listen to the news nd stay updated..an Iec official was arrested for rigging votes scandal, what does that mean to you??, bt anyway ke sesiyokbona kwiCutting Edge 😂
Before you leave your stupid comment please open your ears wide...the case is not withdrawn but only the papers that they submitted, they are going to submit again including all parties they IEC robbed.
@@jiwwo1799😂😂😂
Yes let's hear the evidence thy hv, thy can't hide such evidence 😂😂
Hear the evidence and do what?
It is not evidence that is not available but IEC is capitalizing on principles and time frame on how and when IEC court is approached with evidence of vote rigging .
@@NdumisoZulu-di4dnBut the electoral court does give benefit of the doubt when it comes to deadlines,provided the party have concrete evidence
Lol do they have nah
Is better they withdraw, because it's gonna be wast of time, no matter the evidence they will never win the case
Tselane you continue taint your name, just a concerned citizen....
This a a typical zuma party dance wail and then hide when in courts.
They should go and present those to themselves and hear that case themselves .is that difficult ?..MK has no time for obvious judicial processes with predictable outcomes
Are they not the 1 who started this..sometimes I question things bizikhulumayo
@@mogauledwaba9629 yes but they have withdrew the case so are they suppose to be forced to proceed with it ?
2/3 majority 😂mkhulu Zumpta promised them heaven and earth😂today he fires them😂Mr reshuffle Wenzeni uzuma?Kaaak
Nayo lena izodliwa yinja😂, animazi kahle uBABA. Umethi ANDIZI he means exactly that 😂😂😂😂😂
Labantu bayasphoqa ngoba bacabanga ukuthi sizolwa kanti ngeke silwe
Ilwabi ngoba nithanda ukulwa vele
Can IEC force MK to go back to court after they withdraw?
Sebeyithathaphi lendaba ngoba bebengayikhulumi bangama social media
Phela basebenzela imnqundu
why would IEC be allowed to waste public money on endless court battles.
MK must go and provide evidence....
Public will want to see how delusional MK is
No James, it's MK that took the case to the Electoral court and they said they have evidence. Let them prove their case or stand a risk of being embarrassed 😂
@@BrotherM1978 James doesn't do logic or rationality
@@BrotherM1978 don't mind him. He's ZANU PF spy
Temporary is the key word in all this.
The question should be where do you get these analysts that give you the questions in advance?
Thank you for the compliment! We actually don't know the questions in advance. They just trust that we know what we're talking about
@@nkululekotselane539 lol 😆 thanks for your honesty
A withdrawn case refers to a legal matter that has been temporarily or permanently removed from the court's docket at the request of the party who initiated it. Although the case is not currently active, it has not been fully resolved or concluded and may be reopened or refiled in the future.
Only a court judgment can provide legal certainty in this matter; it must be revisited in court and tested.
But unfortunately the Electoral Court deals with urgent cases related to the election. Withdrawing their case does not bode well for the urgency component, and their case might be dismissed if the file again.
Yes we want to see the evidence!!
Are you living in England 😂😂😂😂we all saw votes stolen and brought back...iec screen showing wrong numbers, and people sent back home without voting 😂😂😂or you act stupid because you hate Zuma 😂
You dont withdraw a case when you have concrete evidence as they claimed they did,now they lying to their supporters saying they are fixing the case's technicalities,kudlaliwe ngeylima la
Defamation of character is very cruel is not healthy for good human beings.let’s always respect each others and the constitution of our country.we will more importantly to ourselves and others.human can course harm to others
Zuma used to rig votes. In 2014 there was vote rigging in Gauteng and EFF was most affected. But Malema didn't cry foul. So, thinks that, there was vote rigging, since he is rigger
Mxm this zuma...wen it favour's him he doesnt say anything...always a victim angisho
@@mogauledwaba9629 then in 2014, Malema refused to take action. He stated that, there was gonna be blood bath and he accepted and move on. 10yrs later he's in opposition bench he cry foul cos he knows how votes are rigged
Have the MK banned.
We as south Africans we are standing with zuma,DA minister of home affairs from Zimbabwe started his nosense in our country
Please don't say as Africans, standing with Zuma,we don't like him don't speak for everyone speak for yourself
So why ningafakkanga minister ye MK kwi home affairs nohlulwe yini pho
He not from Zimbabwe n there is legit proof😅
U and who
For so long , Jacob Zuma had the SA taxpayer pick up his legal costs , he is surprised that HE has to pay his own legal costs now .
You're playing the man instead of the ball
Beside legal bill, he's got no evidence
@@GlenroseMakgorogo Mr Evidence, sure you repeat the word even in your sleep 🤣
@@GlenroseMakgorogo Mr Evidence 🤣 can you go beyond "EVIDENCE?"
@@bonganidumisa1458 beyond evidence, it is Zuma's monkey tricks as always.
Who placed it in dustbins and was it legit forms😅
Who is this guy...
I as a member of mk need this to go to court,electoral court my decline the withdrawal.because i want to know who is advising President Zuma or its just a money making skeem for dali mpofu
Dali Mpofu, has done very well, for MK won 3 cases out of 1...think!!!
@@senzomemela1311 let him go and defend,boz my problem is mk knows that the courts are against Mkp but they are busy with that instead of focusing on governing kzn
@@senzomemela1311 uthini na😂😂😂
He won 3 cases out of 1😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
A party of Misfits, should be called the Misfit Party.
Learn to state the facts instead of labelling political parties. What's your point "sir"?
Ramaphosa is hoping that the MK will refuse but he will be sursprised when the matter goes to court and they get exposed
This is not about Ramaphosa,it is between IEC and Zuma's claims
@@davidmkefa4188 Nah Ramaphosa you know it is about you playing tricks
Why always Ramaphosa, Ramaphosa? what about the guptas
Absolutely 💯 agreed
Let them surprise the country by bringing the evidence before surprising Ramaphosa, how about that😂😂😂😂😂
But we all saw iec incompetence and vote stolen..and people sent back home without voting 😂😂what is free and far about that😂
😂mk party always ahead of them 😂 now they are playing in the hands of mkhonto.
You are so delusional😂😂
@@AndileNkosi-kf8em 😂 okay let's see
They must not Rush everything is in order
News channels always speak and make news about MK but it's unethical that it's always in their absence funny the DA is always represented when it's being talked about. I dnt like MK but this can't be ethical journalism
It’s because there is no person within MK to have an intelligent discussion with. It’s a grouping of morons
Again it's the media's fault. These guys brought this unto themselves. Their spokesperson kept saying they will provide evidence when they get to court, LET THEM PROVIDE IT OR FACE BEING HUMILIATED FOR LYING TO SOUTH AFRICANS. IT'S TIME POLITICIANS KNOW THAT THEY CAN'T JUST MAKE BASELESS ACCUSATIONS WITHOUT BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE. There's nothing unethical here...
IEC must relax, why the rush
Why was mk in a rush to go to court?
Please force them to prove ngeke sizwe ngo zuma nd mk
MK allegations are sooo serious ...they cant just withdraw
Withdrawal is temporarily. Matter is legal and some aspects found to be criminal. The matter must go back to court. However, if the electoral court wants to dismiss matter by responding by means of a MEMO , then MK must witdraw case. The electorate needs a public transparent court case. MK must take the time to regroup and send matter back to court. IEC cannot be left to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result -thats INSANITY. Nor should it be allowed for electoral court to dismiss case using a memo to MK.
That's what MK is plaining to do, they said they are withdrawing the Initial application but they are going to submit another one, what is discussed here is not true reflection of what MK said
That long message and no substance 😂. The Electoral court has not responded on the matter stop with your lies. But Let's say you're right, if the evidence exists and the court decides to rule against MKP, they can always appeal to the higher court. It's precisely because they know they DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE that they want to withdraw. They can't make such serious allegations especially towards such an important institution and not provide evidence. They MUST ACCOUNT...
That good to hear this rigging of elections
Who is the guy with big ears, he sound mnqundu-wish
😂😂😂😂
Don't worry who he is, worry about what he is saying...