Once these guys or even IEC mention the say 300 or 500 votes will not have enough to influence the outcome of the elections,so it means even one vote of mine doesn't matter if they play with or change to give other party and that's nonsense coz I wasted my time and queue to cast my vote now you come here and tell me that you can do whatever with my vote...nxh I think IEC must just stay away from our vote and we can look for other organizations
And if it won't make a difference why are they scared to deal with it? If they fix the problem then we end up with the same result, that's ok as long as we know the process was fair. What they're scared of is getting a different result, so they don't care about the will of the people today, after they tricked us, only concerned with the will of the people before their tricks.
I also don't understand why the MKP must publicly dislose their evidence/legal strategy. Wait for the matter to get to the relevant courts, see/hear the evidence and only then, cast your aspersions
It's just a fact that the IEC is not doing it's job when myself and my partner, registered voters with valid IDs were not allowed to vote, we were told to go home and make a complaint online (which they ignored), not even given a form or anything. What right to vote? Where does the constitution say we cannot vote if the IEC deems us to be in the wrong voting station?
After registration, you get an sms, informing you of a voting station, you're going to be able to cast your vote on election day. Also it's your duty as a voter to check your registration status. Come on guys!
So please tell me where it says in the constitution what my duties are, because registering and going to the voting station wasn't enough, if there's additional duties then the constitution needs to lay them out so that we know what the conditions of our right to vote are. Right now iec is a rogue actor demanding people do things the constitution doesn't require them to do.
@@siphomalingasp1355 assumptions are very dangerous. I actually did everything you've mentioned here. I went to the VD registered in person. Received the sms. Checked my VD after a week. On the voting day they tell me I registered to vote on my previous Voting station. When I asked them when did I do that? When I looked at the dates it was the same day when I registered my change. Despite all that I still didn't cast my vote. I lodge a complaint online after speaking for over an hour with the MES who dropped the phone on me while asking questions. Mfana wakithi next time find some facts before speaking. It will help us build a better society.
Why didn't this lady ask anyone from MK to clarify since they are both confused by the court papers. This happens when journalists with no legal qualifications pretend to be law experts.
Its possible you know, counting the numbers who couldn't go to vote because that day was not officially declared a public holiday, the many turned back voters who were not even given national ballot paper, the truckloads of ballot papers found going for dumping, the dead people appearing in the voter's lists at voting stations who had their ballot papers allocated, the ballots found in people's offices, the 2 hour downtime that changed the numbers on the board, the added numbers which were shown in pictures as evidence to add voters of certain parties, the scrapped ballot papers because magogos didnt fully understand 3 ballot papers and IEC didnt teach enough esp to the rural areas...I can go on and on and on
MK is just an extension of the Zuma Foundation. With Zuma unable to go to Parliament, MK does not have a credible figure that is respected and can stand as a leader in Parliament. Zuma with all his confidence could only get them 45% in KZN and 14% nationally, beyond this I do not see a future. I only see a decline because you MK cant do a thing without Zuma and he does not have the energy shame he is old.
Mandela was incarcerated for 27yrs but MK activities never stopped until he disbanded it in 1993. JZ's attendance of Parlisment or non attendance thereof, is irrelevant.
Because it suit you and your family,we are not happy at all,it pains us because we have to speak to our own people not to respond in violence manner,due to serious irregularities by EIC
@@muzib457 This person considers old people as fools, supports the illegitimate government of Ukraine and Israel’s actions in Palestine. All we can do as bitter drama queens is hope and pray that his/her kids don’t share the same ideas. The CIE will pay🤞🏿
Stop making a fool of yourself.. That was before MK become a thread to the ANC and the White Racist DA....Do you see the White Domkop DA complaining??? No !!!! For a very good reason....although they lost 300 000 votes in this election..... That was last time I checked...maybe that figure is also rigged by now !!!
This is a pre-planned script here.In an audio of 2020 Zille said the DA would attain 20% and the ANC would get 40%.You should why can she be so accurate?
If they really are losers then you are fine with another election right? Because they will lose again if they really lost this time. You can't claim the election was fair but also be scared of another one, if it was fair nothing will change. So your own fear betrays you that there was cheating not just a fair winner.
Are we still a democracy at all when our media belittles the opposition party in this manner?,I wonder how the media would be speaking on this issue if the DA was the one raising this issue???,maybe we as nation should get a white person to call attention to this matter so that it could be taken seriously as it is!
I think we can follow the money if we want to find out why it's not being taken seriously, the money got the election result they wanted, they also pay the journalists.
Stupid arthmatic analysis frim thus fellow, advice to this learned brother is to stay away from commenting on areas where you not an expect on, big no. You have just lied, numbers can be talied
South African Citizens have VOTED and have spoken! No more time for KAK TALK, we must go forward with or without MK. The elections were free and fair! MK has ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE ! HAMBA!
So if we have spoken once why can't we have a new election and speak again? We know the system crashed so we were speaking into a broken microphone. Let's speak again, and make sure the microphone works. Then we can move on. What's the rush? If nothing illegal was done then we will see the same results in a revote and everyone will shut up.
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We need to vote again these results are not adequate enough
Some people were given 2 ballots instead of 3 but IEC still maintains the elections were free and fair
No one was given 2 ballot papers, it's either 1 or 3.
I wasn't given any, if you ask me there was no election, just an iec parade.
The state of journalism here is shocking.
But we are not surprised.
You mean from MkP, we agree 🎉
@@gtxchufxvj MKP are not journalists
@@Qotha listen carefully to them, they behave like journalists, when they Started ask them the journalist questions😒
Get Ramaphosa OUT! before it's too late.
Amen
Aylungiswe abanganelisekile banelisek so that we will move peaceful forward as a country
Re-election
Re- elections
1 vote counts and it's very important. U cannot undermine number of votes lost
Once these guys or even IEC mention the say 300 or 500 votes will not have enough to influence the outcome of the elections,so it means even one vote of mine doesn't matter if they play with or change to give other party and that's nonsense coz I wasted my time and queue to cast my vote now you come here and tell me that you can do whatever with my vote...nxh I think IEC must just stay away from our vote and we can look for other organizations
And if it won't make a difference why are they scared to deal with it? If they fix the problem then we end up with the same result, that's ok as long as we know the process was fair. What they're scared of is getting a different result, so they don't care about the will of the people today, after they tricked us, only concerned with the will of the people before their tricks.
Hai the reasoning, AND gets affirmations from the legal team and supporters.
Media shame ay
I also don't understand why the MKP must publicly dislose their evidence/legal strategy. Wait for the matter to get to the relevant courts, see/hear the evidence and only then, cast your aspersions
Me too it’s this media that is controlled. They are an irritation it’s fulfilling to listen to private analysts cos abachemile they state the facts.
True...but you know very well how the media is in this country. Narratives will be pushed for obvious reasons.
But we are still waiting for Zuma. Since he said NGIZOKHULUMA.......... 🤔 Please remind him that we are still waiting.
@@zettzett2074Izindaba uyazithanda
@@zettzett2074uthanda izindaba toomuch, we busy deleang with something very important
It's just a fact that the IEC is not doing it's job when myself and my partner, registered voters with valid IDs were not allowed to vote, we were told to go home and make a complaint online (which they ignored), not even given a form or anything. What right to vote? Where does the constitution say we cannot vote if the IEC deems us to be in the wrong voting station?
Same here. I registered in the same Voting station. Come election day I was told I am in the wrong Voting station.
After registration, you get an sms, informing you of a voting station, you're going to be able to cast your vote on election day. Also it's your duty as a voter to check your registration status. Come on guys!
Registering on VD 1, doesn't mean you'll be able to cast your vote on VD 1. You can register on any VD but you can't vote on any VD.
So please tell me where it says in the constitution what my duties are, because registering and going to the voting station wasn't enough, if there's additional duties then the constitution needs to lay them out so that we know what the conditions of our right to vote are. Right now iec is a rogue actor demanding people do things the constitution doesn't require them to do.
@@siphomalingasp1355 assumptions are very dangerous. I actually did everything you've mentioned here. I went to the VD registered in person. Received the sms. Checked my VD after a week. On the voting day they tell me I registered to vote on my previous Voting station.
When I asked them when did I do that? When I looked at the dates it was the same day when I registered my change. Despite all that I still didn't cast my vote.
I lodge a complaint online after speaking for over an hour with the MES who dropped the phone on me while asking questions.
Mfana wakithi next time find some facts before speaking. It will help us build a better society.
We want revote.
Announced results in all media platforms compared to recent results showing on IEC website is totally different 200%😅
Why didn't this lady ask anyone from MK to clarify since they are both confused by the court papers.
This happens when journalists with no legal qualifications pretend to be law experts.
Go Read the the Meaning of GNU !!!!
This is a coalition between Two Devils and nothing else !!!!
Son of Leadership Theri, we will replace IEC with IEMSA ✔️✔️
Jacob Gupta is just wanting more money for himself. And look how Dali is always there where things are dodgy.
but more than 9 million voter unaccounted for is too much
Check IEC website for recent results and compare with final results shown in results centre.
MKP has a tendancy of not providing evidence, they believe in too much shebeen talk...😊
Its possible you know, counting the numbers who couldn't go to vote because that day was not officially declared a public holiday, the many turned back voters who were not even given national ballot paper, the truckloads of ballot papers found going for dumping, the dead people appearing in the voter's lists at voting stations who had their ballot papers allocated, the ballots found in people's offices, the 2 hour downtime that changed the numbers on the board, the added numbers which were shown in pictures as evidence to add voters of certain parties, the scrapped ballot papers because magogos didnt fully understand 3 ballot papers and IEC didnt teach enough esp to the rural areas...I can go on and on and on
MK is just an extension of the Zuma Foundation. With Zuma unable to go to Parliament, MK does not have a credible figure that is respected and can stand as a leader in Parliament. Zuma with all his confidence could only get them 45% in KZN and 14% nationally, beyond this I do not see a future. I only see a decline because you MK cant do a thing without Zuma and he does not have the energy shame he is old.
Mandela was incarcerated for 27yrs but MK activities never stopped until he disbanded it in 1993. JZ's attendance of Parlisment or non attendance thereof, is irrelevant.
Da,all they know is rasism, fooling Black this won't last.
Zuma is such a drama queen. He just can't take the loss. This old fool is bitter.
Because it suit you and your family,we are not happy at all,it pains us because we have to speak to our own people not to respond in violence manner,due to serious irregularities by EIC
🇷🇺 🇵🇸
@@muzib457 This person considers old people as fools, supports the illegitimate government of Ukraine and Israel’s actions in Palestine. All we can do as bitter drama queens is hope and pray that his/her kids don’t share the same ideas. The CIE will pay🤞🏿
Malema said it best. Cry babies. The IEC did its job as mandated by the constitution. Ubaba thinks he's above the law and he's not.
MKP thinks we are stupid
I BELIEVE THAT ESPECIALLY THIS SPEECH :th-cam.com/video/pqXe6YF13M0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=uURbqBwZLWvhVqz7
No the DA thinks you’re stupid. 🧐
The DA thinks you're stupid. The DA got 20% but it's calling shots on 80% of the voters
Not we. You are 😂
How?
don't create problem where there's no problem!!
The system was good enough to elect Zuma for 2 terms.
Stop making a fool of yourself..
That was before MK become a thread to the ANC and the White Racist DA....Do you see the White Domkop DA complaining???
No !!!!
For a very good reason....although they lost 300 000 votes in this election.....
That was last time I checked...maybe that figure is also rigged by now !!!
The so called MK counting expert would have failed Maths Literacy.
Shame
And u passed with 50% so shut the fuck up
Absolutely 😂😂😂
MK will lead you beleave me
And the matriculant John Steenhuizen
Ngiyabonga ngokuvela obala yonke imikhonyovu ababeyenza bekuAnc besirobha amavoti ibambe ngakho eKZN besesiyinto yabo sebechanasa naphezu kweSilo noZulu ngoba ngakuANC angikholwa ukuthi indlu yobukhosi bayihlonipha njengeIFP uboke ubuze uDuma noMtolo😊
Zuma go back to jail
Shame on you
" GNU NONSENSE " Viva MK✊🏾🖤💚🖤💚
But you are the one who reduced ANC votes baba
This is a pre-planned script here.In an audio of 2020 Zille said the DA would attain 20% and the ANC would get 40%.You should why can she be so accurate?
Thula Wena Pho mewehlesile so what must they rig the elections ?
And where did he say to Ankole go join the moonshot pact ? 😂
@@patmdoda9567 Exactly
@@sanelisiwedlamini7142 fotshek wena and provide the fucken evidence to those allegations and stop barking
He will spend rest of his life in court cases
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As long as he stands for truth
This Tselane chap, where is he from?
When they said Tselane I expected Terry. Any relations?
Son, check the uglynyana resemblance...😅
So you guys have the number of disputes that were complaints.... Why not tell us how many disputes were valid?
This man is behaving like kid,he thinks he is the King of Msanzi
He is king akafani noyihlo
THE SAD WORDS OF A LOOSER🤣🤣😂
It suit you and your cronies to respond in this manner
Go to Orania
If they really are losers then you are fine with another election right? Because they will lose again if they really lost this time. You can't claim the election was fair but also be scared of another one, if it was fair nothing will change. So your own fear betrays you that there was cheating not just a fair winner.
Zuma must really go rest he will die of all this political stress
That's none of your business
Are we still a democracy at all when our media belittles the opposition party in this manner?,I wonder how the media would be speaking on this issue if the DA was the one raising this issue???,maybe we as nation should get a white person to call attention to this matter so that it could be taken seriously as it is!
😂point taken Mr. Masuku but let us not take it that far.
I think we can follow the money if we want to find out why it's not being taken seriously, the money got the election result they wanted, they also pay the journalists.
Tsealane dude you talk kak
You was think you panish the Anc you panish you self
Why is Zuma and the MK not just forming their own government somewhere in Nkandla?
KwaNxamalala asingangeni sonke ngoba siseNkandla asisiwona sonke I MKZUMA
The Orinia model might help them
Slima
Majority of Nkandla residents voted for IFP. Perhaps those who are obsessed with the Zuptaz can rule themselves in the kraal.
Because he could get the whole country
I am amazed and appalled at how Tselane keeps defending the IEC. It makes me wonder if his preferred political party had experienced same
Since when is this lady an electioneering expert??
9.3millions mistakes come on 😂😂
Amanga ayikho yonke lento ka 9million
Good luck MK providing proof of 9 million mistakes.
😂🤣😂 Estimated completion time is 30 years
Check iec website and see you will not find changes on the results after JZ addressed
Those 9.3 million mistakes beat every single party besides the ANC
@@bongekilesibiya8736ikhona relax
Stupid arthmatic analysis frim thus fellow, advice to this learned brother is to stay away from commenting on areas where you not an expect on, big no. You have just lied, numbers can be talied
Iqiniso
the Tsealane dude is talking absolute rubbish
I wonder where do you get these analyst they always analysing sh*t and they always sides with the presenter we not stupid njalo.
You are bunch of jokes really. Our country is more serious and we congratulate the new Gov.
You are the reason for all that now you blame the Gnu. People have chosen, accept the facts
You are correct by looking at your picture says a lot
So boring... do better
IEC must do better we got robbed.
Yeah it's boring to someone who is used to watching pornhub
@@fredbantu3694 robbed of what tho? How many votes? Enough to swing an election? To make you have more than DA and ANC combined? I don't think so..
South African Citizens have VOTED and have spoken! No more time for KAK TALK, we must go forward with or without MK. The elections were free and fair! MK has ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE ! HAMBA!
Actually they voted, but they didn’t count. Don’t worry the EFF & the youth will be VINDICATED very son. 🙏🏿🤴🏾👸🏾❤️❤️
So if we have spoken once why can't we have a new election and speak again? We know the system crashed so we were speaking into a broken microphone. Let's speak again, and make sure the microphone works. Then we can move on. What's the rush? If nothing illegal was done then we will see the same results in a revote and everyone will shut up.