considering its just card and paper i have to say that you have done a brilliant job of it.it looks as good as a ready made building so well done mate.
Cheers Terry, really pleased with it. They are easy to build, but coating the paper in spray matt varnish and then mounting them on card takes time! But when you get started on the actual building things progress quickly. They look better than shiny plastic buildings, and they are cheaper than resin made buidlings, so I suppose they have their place on a layout. Easy to customize too. These kits are really well designed. All credit to Scalescenes.
I laid it onto planks of pine,18mm thick runnin long ways along loft. Chipboard was laid, nail gun'd into the planks. The planks were obviously fixed to the rafters.It creeks a tiny bit, but this is the planks not the trusses. Yeah the hobby is addictive,I want to do it all the time,but the loft gets too hot in summer, so I will turn my hand to outdoor stuff & continue to make card kits down stairs! I start up the loft again in late Sept! ;-) Hope you like my layout so far. I Love working on it!
This does indeed look impressive, especially with the installed LED lighting. Once I figure out how to create a miniature version of the York station platform layout - likely with less tracks - this may well be the main part of any building I assemble. Thank you. I'm really enjoying watching your videos in series.
Do you mean base card for the floors of the building? I have downloaded the free elevated section for the station to sit on, thus making it the same height as the platform. I intend to build me thrid platform with wall over the coming weeks then have a card building rest lol. The church does look impressive, maybe this will feature in my city area in the future. Cheers for your comment.
The level of personalisation you can achieve from their kits and scratchbuilder papers is impressive. I have seen a few layouts at exhibitions and in rail magazines that have used them. The main reason I was attracted to them was the Random Ashlar brick material which I needed to re-create a kind of Edninburgh Waverly scene. I will be using this brick work for the tunnel mouths and retaining wall at the station. Try one of their free downloads, you wont look back!
Station building looks great, lights look really good & youve made a smashing job of of the build. Ive only used Metcalfe to date & also have a couple of Superquick kits to try. But, after watching your video i will definitely be having a look at the Scalescene kits. Excellent videos, very informative. looking forward to future uploads. Cheers. Ian.
A great video i I enjoy the details and tips They help me with my recovery from my brain tumour and stroke i mentioned my illness so you know who is watching and why it helps me with my recovery and to get back to my modelling Thank you 😂
Much better! No bare card showing where they are folded - as on Metcalfe buildings. Interior detail is included,unlike Metcalfe. A vast range of brick work options are available too,which was the main reason I went with Scalescenes,as I wanted Ashlar brickwork (Edinburgh Waverley style) One downside is that you have to mount the paper onto card, varnish & cut out thick card with a Stanley Blade,This takes time & care.Metcalfe are quicker to build,but Scalescenes give better looking results.
Standard A4 white paper. Printer set at good quality print gives a good job, although I have my parents laser printer a couple of times for even better results!! The concrete bridge will be used on my layout too at some point, easy to personalise, adapt and graffitti is provided, giving a modern urban look!
I was the same as you...wasnt sure how good they could actually look, but they do look great! They are easy to build as well. I now have platforms, a tunnel mouth and a station building built from Scalescenes. My intention is to do a lot more over the coming weeks and months. Thanks for your comment.
Tell me about it. I wont be buying the brass etched windows in future. They do add a good look to the model, but they are expensive. But I found that out the hard way lol. The reason I used them for this building is that it is the main building onthe layout of Dean Park Station, of which the layout is named after. It is also the first building you see on coming up to the loft. So for that reason I pulled out all the stops.
Hi, I got the loft floored by a professional joiner and he said a lot of people remove several trusses to open their lofts up for spare rooms etc and the house still stands! I have not gone down that drastic route, but with the cross beams I have put in to hold the baseboards I have actually strengthened the trusses! - wouldnt you think?.....I will continue this post below....
Hi Very nice build, another source of thicker acetate, is to use laminater sleeves, pass them through the laminater without any paper between. Like you i'm impressed with the scalescene models, the shop fronts and backs can be used to make some useful tenements. If the kit has the black windows, get them printed onto laser acetate, then from Crafty Computerpapers, they do laser transfer foils these get passed through the laminator to give white windows. Paul
Glad I saw this Dave. I've been away from the hobby for almost a year but I've just got back into it and am building this same kit. I hadn't actually thought about lighting at this stage so like I said, I'm glad I saw this before I got too far!
Hi, I use an Epson colour photo printer, on normal settings. However for the large roof area I used my local print shop outlet and got them laser printed. It worked out just as cheap as several new ink cartridges and the finish is even better! Ok, it isn't cheap, but the results speak volumes. Top tip - spray every sheet in a minimum 2 coats of matt spray varnish BEFORE building the kit. This saves you having to mask up windows etc when the kit is built. The varnish protects the ink.
It does look great, just finishing my 2nd Scalescenes tunnel entrance kit at the moment, they are great kits, not sure I've got the patience to do a big building like that though!
Yeah, 2mm grey board, spray glue and print outs. Not sure how the plasticard reacts to spray glue?, what adhesive would you use to mount the paper onto plasticard? Might try a scratch built plasticard over bridge as things develop. I am a bit nervous about weathering it tho...dont want to mess up platicard stuff with poor weathering techniques! I will have to practise!
Cheers, I am pretty satisfied with it. It also comes with a base to raise it up to the same height as the platform. I will download that (it is free) and build it soon.
Thanks for advice!...I will have a go at doing that when the sheets I have run out. I have a town/city scene in the corner which I will plan out next winter, so I intend to build quite a few scalescenes full and low relief houses! Glad you enjoyed the video, please feel free to subscribe. More updates to follow. Dave
Haven't built the superquick kit yet, i'll keep you posted. They tend to be cheaper than the metcalfe kits so i would assume that they are of a similar qulity. I know what you mean about the faults with the metcalfe kits, very frustrating. Cheers Ian.
Your right, the good thing about them is that they dont look shiny and plastic! Some plastic kits look like toys, while these cards kits look the part. If you really want the top of the range buildings I suggest resin models, Bachmann and others do them, but they are very expensive to buy!
Yeh it surpising how much salt water weighs. My house is the same with identical truss roof as yours..Persimmon I think it was..My friend is a builder so I'll ask his advise to be sure before any cutting but if left it will be fine for a layout as you have..look forward to more updates. I too have built that station and they do look good. I'm N gauge though but same principles etc.
Not embossed, but weathered and looks convincing. I would love to kit out this layout in Bachmann resin stuff, but its mighty expensive! I have a couple of items in that range so far which I will be using in the depot, but the station required some alternations to buildings, so the easiest wayto do that is card kits! It doesnt take long to build them, its easy to follow the instructions. Cheers
so, here is a tip - use decent spray glue and plenty of it when mounting paper on to card. I used cheap stuff to build this and its come back to haunt me! I will learn, but hopefully you will not make the same mistake. All of the other buildings and structures were ok, so it was just one wall of this one building. Don't let my mistake put you off card kits though! Hope this helps. Dave
I bought my scaledale polystone station for about 35 pounds so it is a fine line between some of the kits on whether effective, will definitely use them for my roads after looking at the site though, good realistic and so many little details
Yeah thanks, I am a bit neive on what resistor codes and colour bands actually mean lol, so for safety I bought the ones from Kytes. But I will go to rapid website and have a look. cheers
Ah another layout in a W truss loft. Nice..I think it's decided I'm also moving up there. I wouldn't worry about the weight..It's only a bit of wood and like said they are built with extra factors into the calulations. Not sure about removing any struts thought sounds too risky! My downstairs is a suspended floor and has a fish tank that weighs over a ton..Still standing with no extra supports..
that looks great, esp the lights!.. my only worry would be the dampness or cold in a loft... would it all go funny after a while? would be a shame after spending £££ and time on it! :-S. Lee
Try it, it takes a bit of time, but look at the results! I have plans for a town and also an industrial scene in the future...I intend to make good use of Scalescenes stuff. I often think about just buying Bachmann Scenecraft stuff, which are great detailed resin models, but they cost an absolute fortune and there is no fun in just buying aready to use item and plonking it on the layout ;-) I wish I had a spare £1000 to go mad and buy loads of Scenecraft stuff! lol
Hi Dave, I’ve only just found your channel which is really helping as I’m at the beginning stages of track laying. The lights make all the difference but as a beginner I’d really appreciate a video or tips on how to wire multiple lights up together - real basic stuff which as I’ve not done before, intimidates me! Lol... excellent videos, I’m slowly working my way through from the beginning. Thanks a lot! Mike
Hi, thanks for watching and getting in touch. I’ll add that to my list and one day I’ll get it in a video. I sometimes do question and answer videos... Thst is where I put that kind of content. My advice is always use LED lights... as they don’t generate any heat, so they are safer in buildings etc...and they last longer. When you have an LED you have to have a resistor in front of it. I buy my lights/leds from express models. They always come with a instruction sheets and usually resistors too! It’s not black magic, thankfully 😅 so when you do it once you’ll get confidence and there will be no stopping you. Thanks again for stopping by my channel. Can I ask.... how did you find me? :-) Cheers. Dave
DaveClass47 thanks Dave, that’d be great. I did a you tube search and saw your video on custom made level crossings - liked the vid and then browsed your updates.whats really great is that I can now see your progress from your early days which gives me so many tips and tricks. Love the way you do a ‘how to’ along with the detailed explanation. Brilliant for newbies like myself... I’ll keep watching! 👍🏻
Very well presented video.Info well explained. You are very heavy on your outlay on glues!! You are obviously passionate over detail. PVA white wood glue can do a lot of different jobs without too much glue expense. I like to experiment. The only way to find out. TH-cam is a world source of info. and Googling of course. The specialist model shops are always the most expensive. Ordinary hardware stores can supply a lot of alternative material. Just search ( time factor ) . Happy modeling !
Hi, you can always save it onto a data stick or cd and take it along to your local print/photocopying shop? They can print it out colour laser for you? I just set my ink jet on hight quality, it uses a bit of ink, but its worth it! lol
Only problem for me is that I imagin you need a pretty decent printer to get the images nice and crisp. I don't have a printer though! Might give them ago as ive tried Metcalfe and have been pretty pleased so if these can only get better then why not!
Yeah I have a couple of their free kits to do. Inspection pit and low relief garage. I cant fault the design of the kits, and they cater for modern era signage etc.
Very impressive. I'd love to have seen some videos of how you assemble such a kit in techniques etc as watching a master builder do it once is worth saving many mistakes myself.
Hi, the biggest tip I will give with Scalescenes kits....follow the instructions in the correct order....they are all in that order for a reason. These kits are great fund and easy to make, if you take your time.
I had a structural engineer friend who took a look and said it was fine to floor and convert. After all a roof trusses designed with a factor of safety to cope with xx ton of snow,strong winds etc so plywood baseboards, trains and scenic stuff wont comprimise that structure.My engineer said that the odd one can be removed as long as strengthening is put in place. Take advice first.This make sense?
Hi, well I have had my scalescenes platforms built and up the loft for a month and they appear to be ok. I have covered every piece of paper in spray varnish to protect it (as recommended by Scalescenes). My platforms have been through cold icy spells of weather and with the weather getting warmer I hope they cope with the hot summer conditions. I have also had some metcelfe buildings up there for a year, they are also totally unaffected by the cold (damp feeling) and warm fluctuations in temp.
looking good they take a wee while to build ... have you tried his church yet I must have spent at least a week making that. but its all worth it in the end. what are you using for base card. I use 1mm thick grey card that I get off ebay easy to cut
Nice one, N gauge has come so far in recent years and I am glad major manufacturers now cater for N gauge modellers as much as 00 gauge. The reason I went 00 is that I had some stuff that scale from years ago I wanted to use, ie hornby class 91's etc.
P.S. - I really like your layout mate, its given me some ideas for layout, especially my raised section that I will hopefully add in 2014! Keep up the good work.
Yeah windows are expensive. I had a high outlay of costs with the primer and glazing, but now that I have loads of that I suppose future buildings with etch windows will be slightly cheaper. They do look good though!
Hi, Print out the paper and mount on to card using a spray adhesive. If the whole sheet needs mounted on to card I spray glue it on as it ensures it fixes better. I use 3M CraftMount Spray Adhesive, available from Amazon. For the smaller parts I just glue the paper to the card using pritt stick, apply it evenly. With the thickness of card involved its not possible to put the card through the printer. For assembling the actual model I use UHU all purpose glue (yellow tube)! Hope this helps?
Hi, thanks for those kinds words. I have used Metcalfe, and while they are good kits they suffer from two real 'flaws'...the edge of the building is exposed to the card underneath, any fold shows of the grey cardboard. The other problem is that there is no interior detail! So when you light the kits the rooms just look grey and bare. Interior features on the scalescenes items are pretty good. Have not used Superquick....any good?
Excellent job! I’m thinking of getting the low relief 1930s factory for a diorama I’m going to build to give me practice. I worried at first that the colours may not print accurately but that’ll be decided by their computer?
You have done a fantastic job mate. Just a question, I have a similar loft to you, do you worry about the weight issue on the trusses and floor? Jason.
Dave I think that building looks well worth £50, it looks amazing, there is no way to buy anything looking that good from a ready built supplier. And of course as the layout has built up over the year it makes the investment on it even more worth while.
Glad you like their stuff. If you have any suggestions on kits you would like to see then contact them. They are pretty good at taking on board advice. I think there is a modern station building on the way from them as well as other stuff. Take a look at my video on Scalescenes platform for tips on varnishing etc. Thanks for your comment. Please subscribe and you'll get new videos from me soon. Cheers
Is the station brick work embossed + the putting together is the only reason why I do not buy Scale scenes. Do my head in which is why I buy Bachmann resin items.
i was thinking about down loading the concrete bridge kit to build my second bridge to go along side the viaduct bridge. what type of paper did you use to print it onto?
Nice work! :) The building is looking really good and the kit bashing was really nicely done, I certainly wouldn't have picked it if you hadn't mentioned the modifications you made. The printing for this and the platforms both look really good, can I ask what model printer you have? I hadn't really considered these sorts of kits as an option before, but the results you are getting is making me reconsider that... :) - Sim
Hi, I went up loft yesterday and found that my station building had been damaged from excess heat and then perhaps damp and one wall had completely crinkled up and looked really awful. Due to the windows etc I had to dismantle the whole building...so I will have to build this all again. The cause of this was lack of glue applied to the paper when mounting it to card. I had known about this for some time but hoped it would be ok, but it was not! I was raging.
trouble with them scalescenes is the door ways and doors !! there massive ... ive never been in a pub and opened a 15ft door ,, good kits as u say ,,but the scale is out ,,,
Fish Tank of over a ton! wow! Thats like parking a VW golf inside the upstairs of your house! lol Perhaps it would be wise for you not to remove struts with that weight on a suspended floor. My roof sits on breeze block, full brick construction, so its fine. A lot of 'newer' houses are just timber frame. I took advice, strengthened the trusses either side of any ammended ones and saught advice on exactly what to do.
Dave, have you got any tips/advice for making the canopy arches? I have made half of the 36 I need for my station and to say I'm totally bored of it is an understatement!
hi.....a tip - continue to be bored lol. It is a tedious, slow process. But my genuine tip would be not to rush it, pace yourself and break up your time by doing something else for a bit. 36? How long is your canopy?
The instructions show 6 arches per canopy section. I think that looks a bit much so was thinking of only using 4 for each one which would leave me with 6 more to construct. Do you think that would work?
I am in the same boat as you at the moment. I found it an unnecessary bore to cut out the internal supports so I made one complete arch with the detailed pieces on and then very carefully used that to make one arch template. You have to be careful not to make them too big by carefully drawing around them with a sharp pencil or fiber tip pen. This also allowed easier glueing of the rivet paper afterwards as it had a solid backing to stick to. It saved me about 20 minutes per arch.
Good idea. Trouble with me is that I tend to religiously stick to the given instructions for fear of finding out too late the intended reason behind them. If that makes sense :)
Hi, I just googled "A3 grey board 2mm". it comes up with various suppliers. I got mine via ebay.....I don't have a name to hand, but if I come across any invoice etc I will let you know. But its 'grey board; you're after.
Hi Dave. Without reading all the comments and in case you didn't realise, you can get all the electronics shown from Rapid Electronics previously mentioned , where you get your wire from.
Good grief! £40+ for windows, I'll stick to Metcalfe kits, they look the part and are cheap to purchase, I know you are striving for perfection and the kit you have built looks fantastic, but jeez, thats a lot of cash buddy. Ian
Great conversion on this kit - having a dabble at the moment with Scalescenes, and all I can is they are brilliant
considering its just card and paper i have to say that you have done a brilliant job of it.it looks as good as a ready made building so well done mate.
Cheers Terry, really pleased with it. They are easy to build, but coating the paper in spray matt varnish and then mounting them on card takes time! But when you get started on the actual building things progress quickly. They look better than shiny plastic buildings, and they are cheaper than resin made buidlings, so I suppose they have their place on a layout. Easy to customize too. These kits are really well designed. All credit to Scalescenes.
I laid it onto planks of pine,18mm thick runnin long ways along loft. Chipboard was laid, nail gun'd into the planks. The planks were obviously fixed to the rafters.It creeks a tiny bit, but this is the planks not the trusses. Yeah the hobby is addictive,I want to do it all the time,but the loft gets too hot in summer, so I will turn my hand to outdoor stuff & continue to make card kits down stairs! I start up the loft again in late Sept! ;-) Hope you like my layout so far. I Love working on it!
This does indeed look impressive, especially with the installed LED lighting. Once I figure out how to create a miniature version of the York station platform layout - likely with less tracks - this may well be the main part of any building I assemble. Thank you. I'm really enjoying watching your videos in series.
Do you mean base card for the floors of the building? I have downloaded the free elevated section for the station to sit on, thus making it the same height as the platform. I intend to build me thrid platform with wall over the coming weeks then have a card building rest lol. The church does look impressive, maybe this will feature in my city area in the future. Cheers for your comment.
That building looks ace. I was not that convinced about these buildings but now I've seen a few of them I might go ahead and download one or two.
The level of personalisation you can achieve from their kits and scratchbuilder papers is impressive. I have seen a few layouts at exhibitions and in rail magazines that have used them. The main reason I was attracted to them was the Random Ashlar brick material which I needed to re-create a kind of Edninburgh Waverly scene. I will be using this brick work for the tunnel mouths and retaining wall at the station. Try one of their free downloads, you wont look back!
Station building looks great, lights look really good & youve made a smashing job of of the build. Ive only used Metcalfe to date & also have a couple of Superquick kits to try. But, after watching your video i will definitely be having a look at the Scalescene kits. Excellent videos, very informative. looking forward to future uploads.
Cheers.
Ian.
A great video i I enjoy the details and tips
They help me with my recovery from my brain tumour and stroke i mentioned my illness so you know who is watching and why it helps me with my recovery and to get back to my modelling
Thank you 😂
Hi, I am so glad my videos help you. Get better soon. All the best. Dave
Much better! No bare card showing where they are folded - as on Metcalfe buildings. Interior detail is included,unlike Metcalfe. A vast range of brick work options are available too,which was the main reason I went with Scalescenes,as I wanted Ashlar brickwork (Edinburgh Waverley style) One downside is that you have to mount the paper onto card, varnish & cut out thick card with a Stanley Blade,This takes time & care.Metcalfe are quicker to build,but Scalescenes give better looking results.
great work , it looks very good,card is good as it does not bleed light through when lit in low light, 10/10 jim
Standard A4 white paper. Printer set at good quality print gives a good job, although I have my parents laser printer a couple of times for even better results!! The concrete bridge will be used on my layout too at some point, easy to personalise, adapt and graffitti is provided, giving a modern urban look!
I was the same as you...wasnt sure how good they could actually look, but they do look great! They are easy to build as well. I now have platforms, a tunnel mouth and a station building built from Scalescenes. My intention is to do a lot more over the coming weeks and months. Thanks for your comment.
A good job on the station build. Thanks for sharing the information.
Cheers, Michael.
Tell me about it. I wont be buying the brass etched windows in future. They do add a good look to the model, but they are expensive. But I found that out the hard way lol. The reason I used them for this building is that it is the main building onthe layout of Dean Park Station, of which the layout is named after. It is also the first building you see on coming up to the loft. So for that reason I pulled out all the stops.
I've never heard of Scalescenes before this. Great stuff. It looks better then some of the plastic models.
Hi, I got the loft floored by a professional joiner and he said a lot of people remove several trusses to open their lofts up for spare rooms etc and the house still stands! I have not gone down that drastic route, but with the cross beams I have put in to hold the baseboards I have actually strengthened the trusses! - wouldnt you think?.....I will continue this post below....
Hi
Very nice build, another source of thicker acetate, is to use laminater sleeves, pass them through the laminater without any paper between. Like you i'm impressed with the scalescene models, the shop fronts and backs can be used to make some useful tenements. If the kit has the black windows, get them printed onto laser acetate, then from Crafty Computerpapers, they do laser transfer foils these get passed through the laminator to give white windows.
Paul
Would suggest Rapid Electronics for LED,s resistors and other electrical componants. Great example of the scalescenes station!
Glad I saw this Dave. I've been away from the hobby for almost a year but I've just got back into it and am building this same kit.
I hadn't actually thought about lighting at this stage so like I said, I'm glad I saw this before I got too far!
+Kingswood Junction good luck...the lighting and interiors make all the difference. Dave
Cheers, glad you think so. These kits are good and detailed.
Hi, I use an Epson colour photo printer, on normal settings. However for the large roof area I used my local print shop outlet and got them laser printed. It worked out just as cheap as several new ink cartridges and the finish is even better! Ok, it isn't cheap, but the results speak volumes. Top tip - spray every sheet in a minimum 2 coats of matt spray varnish BEFORE building the kit. This saves you having to mask up windows etc when the kit is built. The varnish protects the ink.
1/2 way thru the Small Goods store. I'm really impressed.
It does look great, just finishing my 2nd Scalescenes tunnel entrance kit at the moment, they are great kits, not sure I've got the patience to do a big building like that though!
Yeah, 2mm grey board, spray glue and print outs. Not sure how the plasticard reacts to spray glue?, what adhesive would you use to mount the paper onto plasticard? Might try a scratch built plasticard over bridge as things develop. I am a bit nervous about weathering it tho...dont want to mess up platicard stuff with poor weathering techniques! I will have to practise!
A beautiful building and well kit bashed and made. I've got some of scalescenes pdf's downloaded but not built yet.
Cheers, I am pretty satisfied with it. It also comes with a base to raise it up to the same height as the platform. I will download that (it is free) and build it soon.
Thanks for advice!...I will have a go at doing that when the sheets I have run out. I have a town/city scene in the corner which I will plan out next winter, so I intend to build quite a few scalescenes full and low relief houses! Glad you enjoyed the video, please feel free to subscribe. More updates to follow. Dave
Haven't built the superquick kit yet, i'll keep you posted. They tend to be cheaper than the metcalfe kits so i would assume that they are of a similar qulity. I know what you mean about the faults with the metcalfe kits, very frustrating.
Cheers
Ian.
Your right, the good thing about them is that they dont look shiny and plastic! Some plastic kits look like toys, while these cards kits look the part. If you really want the top of the range buildings I suggest resin models, Bachmann and others do them, but they are very expensive to buy!
awesome work bud, just had a look at the site theyve got some great looking kits on there. Guess I know now were my stuff is coming from lol.
Yeh it surpising how much salt water weighs. My house is the same with identical truss roof as yours..Persimmon I think it was..My friend is a builder so I'll ask his advise to be sure before any cutting but if left it will be fine for a layout as you have..look forward to more updates. I too have built that station and they do look good. I'm N gauge though but same principles etc.
Looks like a well built kit although expensive windows. Lights look great in it.
Great building ! You've done some amazing work.
Tim
Not embossed, but weathered and looks convincing. I would love to kit out this layout in Bachmann resin stuff, but its mighty expensive! I have a couple of items in that range so far which I will be using in the depot, but the station required some alternations to buildings, so the easiest wayto do that is card kits! It doesnt take long to build them, its easy to follow the instructions. Cheers
so, here is a tip - use decent spray glue and plenty of it when mounting paper on to card. I used cheap stuff to build this and its come back to haunt me! I will learn, but hopefully you will not make the same mistake. All of the other buildings and structures were ok, so it was just one wall of this one building. Don't let my mistake put you off card kits though! Hope this helps. Dave
That building reminds me of Ayr station. Cracking site, their free kits make interesting little projects too
Cheers, yeah I agree. The walls on this are 4mm thick (2mm outer side, 2mm inner). A sturdy, heavy model.
I bought my scaledale polystone station for about 35 pounds so it is a fine line between some of the kits on whether effective, will definitely use them for my roads after looking at the site though, good realistic and so many little details
Yeah thanks, I am a bit neive on what resistor codes and colour bands actually mean lol, so for safety I bought the ones from Kytes. But I will go to rapid website and have a look. cheers
Ah another layout in a W truss loft. Nice..I think it's decided I'm also moving up there. I wouldn't worry about the weight..It's only a bit of wood and like said they are built with extra factors into the calulations. Not sure about removing any struts thought sounds too risky! My downstairs is a suspended floor and has a fish tank that weighs over a ton..Still standing with no extra supports..
that looks great, esp the lights!.. my only worry would be the dampness or cold in a loft... would it all go funny after a while? would be a shame after spending £££ and time on it!
:-S. Lee
Nice kit build great vid.
Try it, it takes a bit of time, but look at the results! I have plans for a town and also an industrial scene in the future...I intend to make good use of Scalescenes stuff. I often think about just buying Bachmann Scenecraft stuff, which are great detailed resin models, but they cost an absolute fortune and there is no fun in just buying aready to use item and plonking it on the layout ;-) I wish I had a spare £1000 to go mad and buy loads of Scenecraft stuff! lol
Hi Dave, I’ve only just found your channel which is really helping as I’m at the beginning stages of track laying. The lights make all the difference but as a beginner I’d really appreciate a video or tips on how to wire multiple lights up together - real basic stuff which as I’ve not done before, intimidates me! Lol... excellent videos, I’m slowly working my way through from the beginning. Thanks a lot! Mike
Hi, thanks for watching and getting in touch. I’ll add that to my list and one day I’ll get it in a video. I sometimes do question and answer videos... Thst is where I put that kind of content. My advice is always use LED lights... as they don’t generate any heat, so they are safer in buildings etc...and they last longer. When you have an LED you have to have a resistor in front of it. I buy my lights/leds from express models. They always come with a instruction sheets and usually resistors too! It’s not black magic, thankfully 😅 so when you do it once you’ll get confidence and there will be no stopping you. Thanks again for stopping by my channel. Can I ask.... how did you find me? :-) Cheers. Dave
DaveClass47 thanks Dave, that’d be great. I did a you tube search and saw your video on custom made level crossings - liked the vid and then browsed your updates.whats really great is that I can now see your progress from your early days which gives me so many tips and tricks. Love the way you do a ‘how to’ along with the detailed explanation. Brilliant for newbies like myself... I’ll keep watching! 👍🏻
Very well presented video.Info well explained. You are very heavy on your outlay on glues!!
You are obviously passionate over detail. PVA white wood glue can do a lot of different jobs without too much glue expense.
I like to experiment. The only way to find out. TH-cam is a world source of info. and Googling of course. The specialist model shops are always the most expensive. Ordinary hardware stores can supply a lot of alternative material. Just search ( time factor ) . Happy modeling !
Hi, you can always save it onto a data stick or cd and take it along to your local print/photocopying shop? They can print it out colour laser for you? I just set my ink jet on hight quality, it uses a bit of ink, but its worth it! lol
Only problem for me is that I imagin you need a pretty decent printer to get the images nice and crisp. I don't have a printer though! Might give them ago as ive tried Metcalfe and have been pretty pleased so if these can only get better then why not!
Yeah I have a couple of their free kits to do. Inspection pit and low relief garage. I cant fault the design of the kits, and they cater for modern era signage etc.
Very impressive. I'd love to have seen some videos of how you assemble such a kit in techniques etc as watching a master builder do it once is worth saving many mistakes myself.
Hi, the biggest tip I will give with Scalescenes kits....follow the instructions in the correct order....they are all in that order for a reason. These kits are great fund and easy to make, if you take your time.
I had a structural engineer friend who took a look and said it was fine to floor and convert. After all a roof trusses designed with a factor of safety to cope with xx ton of snow,strong winds etc so plywood baseboards, trains and scenic stuff wont comprimise that structure.My engineer said that the odd one can be removed as long as strengthening is put in place. Take advice first.This make sense?
Hi, well I have had my scalescenes platforms built and up the loft for a month and they appear to be ok. I have covered every piece of paper in spray varnish to protect it (as recommended by Scalescenes). My platforms have been through cold icy spells of weather and with the weather getting warmer I hope they cope with the hot summer conditions. I have also had some metcelfe buildings up there for a year, they are also totally unaffected by the cold (damp feeling) and warm fluctuations in temp.
Thank you very much you cleared a lot of things. I'm still debating if its worth buying a laser colour printer or just take it to my local Staples.
looking good they take a wee while to build ... have you tried his church yet I must have spent at least a week making that. but its all worth it in the end.
what are you using for base card. I use 1mm thick grey card that I get off ebay easy to cut
Go to pound land you can get white spray paint and grey primer as well
Nice one, N gauge has come so far in recent years and I am glad major manufacturers now cater for N gauge modellers as much as 00 gauge. The reason I went 00 is that I had some stuff that scale from years ago I wanted to use, ie hornby class 91's etc.
P.S. - I really like your layout mate, its given me some ideas for layout, especially my raised section that I will hopefully add in 2014! Keep up the good work.
Yeah windows are expensive. I had a high outlay of costs with the primer and glazing, but now that I have loads of that I suppose future buildings with etch windows will be slightly cheaper. They do look good though!
Hi, Print out the paper and mount on to card using a spray adhesive. If the whole sheet needs mounted on to card I spray glue it on as it ensures it fixes better. I use 3M CraftMount Spray Adhesive, available from Amazon. For the smaller parts I just glue the paper to the card using pritt stick, apply it evenly.
With the thickness of card involved its not possible to put the card through the printer. For assembling the actual model I use UHU all purpose glue (yellow tube)! Hope this helps?
Hi, thanks for those kinds words. I have used Metcalfe, and while they are good kits they suffer from two real 'flaws'...the edge of the building is exposed to the card underneath, any fold shows of the grey cardboard. The other problem is that there is no interior detail! So when you light the kits the rooms just look grey and bare. Interior features on the scalescenes items are pretty good. Have not used Superquick....any good?
Excellent job! I’m thinking of getting the low relief 1930s factory for a diorama I’m going to build to give me practice. I worried at first that the colours may not print accurately but that’ll be decided by their computer?
You have done a fantastic job mate. Just a question, I have a similar loft to you, do you worry about the weight issue on the trusses and floor? Jason.
I don’t know if this has already been mentioned but it would look more authentic if you put some lead flashing between the roof and the tower.
Oh I see lol. Yeah I use 1mm and 2mm card, depending on the size of building etc. They are very sturdy kits!
Dave I think that building looks well worth £50, it looks amazing, there is no way to buy anything looking that good from a ready built supplier.
And of course as the layout has built up over the year it makes the investment on it even more worth while.
+BladeRunner21577 That's true what you say. I is pretty well detailed. Dave
Glad you like their stuff. If you have any suggestions on kits you would like to see then contact them. They are pretty good at taking on board advice. I think there is a modern station building on the way from them as well as other stuff.
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So you just built it onto normal thick card then.i wonder if i could use plasticard instead.
Nice review, it looks great! How do these compare to Metcalfe building kits?
no the card that you stick your brick outer layer on, the main boarding. your base layer
Is the station brick work embossed + the putting together is the only reason why I do not buy Scale scenes. Do my head in which is why I buy Bachmann resin items.
i was thinking about down loading the concrete bridge kit to build my second bridge to go along side the viaduct bridge.
what type of paper did you use to print it onto?
Very good = well done.
Nice work! :) The building is looking really good and the kit bashing was really nicely done, I certainly wouldn't have picked it if you hadn't mentioned the modifications you made. The printing for this and the platforms both look really good, can I ask what model printer you have? I hadn't really considered these sorts of kits as an option before, but the results you are getting is making me reconsider that... :) - Sim
Hi, I went up loft yesterday and found that my station building had been damaged from excess heat and then perhaps damp and one wall had completely crinkled up and looked really awful. Due to the windows etc I had to dismantle the whole building...so I will have to build this all again. The cause of this was lack of glue applied to the paper when mounting it to card. I had known about this for some time but hoped it would be ok, but it was not! I was raging.
Thanks for sharing - It is really good to know, so we all learn of things that can go wrong
I have a question, do you glue the paper to the card sheet or do you print directly on the card sheet?
trouble with them scalescenes is the door ways and doors !! there massive ... ive never been in a pub and opened a 15ft door ,, good kits as u say ,,but the scale is out ,,,
Fish Tank of over a ton! wow! Thats like parking a VW golf inside the upstairs of your house! lol Perhaps it would be wise for you not to remove struts with that weight on a suspended floor. My roof sits on breeze block, full brick construction, so its fine. A lot of 'newer' houses are just timber frame. I took advice, strengthened the trusses either side of any ammended ones and saught advice on exactly what to do.
Dave, have you got any tips/advice for making the canopy arches? I have made half of the 36 I need for my station and to say I'm totally bored of it is an understatement!
hi.....a tip - continue to be bored lol. It is a tedious, slow process. But my genuine tip would be not to rush it, pace yourself and break up your time by doing something else for a bit. 36? How long is your canopy?
Thanks 👍. There will be 6 in total
The instructions show 6 arches per canopy section. I think that looks a bit much so was thinking of only using 4 for each one which would leave me with 6 more to construct.
Do you think that would work?
I am in the same boat as you at the moment. I found it an unnecessary bore to cut out the internal supports so I made one complete arch with the detailed pieces on and then very carefully used that to make one arch template.
You have to be careful not to make them too big by carefully drawing around them with a sharp pencil or fiber tip pen. This also allowed easier glueing of the rivet paper afterwards as it had a solid backing to stick to. It saved me about 20 minutes per arch.
Good idea. Trouble with me is that I tend to religiously stick to the given instructions for fear of finding out too late the intended reason behind them.
If that makes sense :)
That's not a bad idea, should get an even better quality image then a home printer, cheers!!!
If you're seriously good with a scalpel you'll be able to get the same level with thin styrene sheet.
Dave what size card have you used ? did you use both 1mm and 2mm card ?
Hi, I just googled "A3 grey board 2mm". it comes up with various suppliers. I got mine via ebay.....I don't have a name to hand, but if I come across any invoice etc I will let you know. But its 'grey board; you're after.
DaveClass47 Thanks Dave i have found one so orderedsome 1mm and 2mm as i was thinking i would need both for this build.
ahh ok, thats good to know... i shall look at investing in some myself then! :-)
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Hi Dave. Without reading all the comments and in case you didn't realise, you can get all the electronics shown from Rapid Electronics previously mentioned , where you get your wire from.
ok, I shall have a look. Thanks for letting me know, I am sure its cheaper from Rapid?! Thanks. Dave
Good grief! £40+ for windows, I'll stick to Metcalfe kits, they look the part and are cheap to purchase, I know you are striving for perfection and the kit you have built looks fantastic, but jeez, thats a lot of cash buddy.
Ian