God bless you sir. I bought a 300 dollar tv stand and for the life of me I could not figure out the sliders and I was going insane. I found your video and I solved the issue in a min. Thanks!
Very Good. I was searching for how "partial" a partial blockout installation of undermount slides could be. As far as the difference between Pro and DIYer slides. I would add the DIYer slides are the same no doubt as you said. However, The pro's don't get screws, brackets, clips or even instructions. They just get the side. Where the DIYer gets sort of a kit.
Dear Sir, A very enlightening demonstration that will assist most of us choosing the correct type(s) for our projects. Very well presented. Kind regards.
Great interesting video, The ball bearing runner i have fitted about 20 in my workshop, just fitted 4 sets today they are good and easy to fit, yes your right they have to be a good fit.
Great video, very informative and nice drawings! I just love youtube. I was wondering what kind of drawer slides to use, and what the difference was and after 12 minutes, I'm now an unofficial expert! Thank you!
I haven’t yet had the need to lubricate. I my slides, there was enough lubricant - I think if you buy good quality slides and the room is not extremely dusty, you don’t need to lubricate.
Thanks for the informative video Andreas. I'm trying to find a ball-bearing drawer slide with an unusual capability. As you seem to be all over drawer runners, I ask you, have you ever come across a ball-bearing drawer runner that allows you to open the drawer from both sides. A drawer runner that closes so that all of the layers are over the top of each other but then can be pushed further to start extending the other way. My wet saw has plain old ball-bearing runners which look the same as standard bearing runners except for that extra functionality described above. Looking forward to your response. If you know of them, could you please let me know what they are called so that I can hunt them down. Cheers Ciaran
I've built a frame for some art work I created. I was going to use the frame and art to hide a small wall safe underneath it and thought about using the bearing slides mounted to the top and bottom of the frame but wasn't sure if it would work or if there was a more effective way to use this sliding mechanism idea.
I’m not sure if this is going to work, in this video Tom shares his experience with just such a setup and it didn’t work very well: th-cam.com/video/Psc2wm_vae0/w-d-xo.html - so perhaps you can find special slides for top/bottom mounting or try a different solution.
There should be a small lever or knob on the side of the slide when the drawer is pulled out. Press it or move it and you unlock the slide and can then pull out the drawer.
Hi. Thank you for the informative video. One quick question. Is it possible to install the hinged slides partially in the groove on drawer carcass sides?
What about the small groove runners in your video thumbnail? EDIT: nvm I found it at 9:07, unfortunately I can't find anyone who shows how to install them, even the instructions don't mention how deep to cut the groove
I don’t know - it wouldn’t help you much anyway because it’s unlikely you’ll get the exact same one. When you buy, the max load should be named on the label.
Thanks for the info. Am I right in thinking that the middle ball bearing one (the one most people use) parts are identical? i.e there is not a right and left piece?
I think the standard measure is half an inch or 12,7 mm. At least that’s what it was on every slide I’ve used so far. The measurement is given on the package of the slide, though so you don’t have to remember that.
In the video you only ever see one of the sides with two pieces: one gets attached to the carcass of the cabinet, the other to the drawer. So that’s why the two pieces are different.
Danke für den Tipp. Hab später gesehen, dass es sie auch von Hettich gibt. Wobei sie preislich so nahe an den regulären Vollauszügen sind, dass es sich mE nicht lohnt, nicht die „Richtigen“ zu kaufen.
Andreas Kalt der große Vorteil der rollschubauszüge ist die einfache Montage an der Unterkante der Schublade und der Umstand dass diese sehr große maßtoleranzen verkraften, ohne zu klemmen.
You can get the full-extension ones in extra sturdy. But the highest weight-support I’ve found is 45 kg. I suppose you’d have to do some research into heavy-duty drawers slights.
Thanks for the great explanation. Tell me (off topic - sorry!) about your "drill press" contraption you have in the background there - what's it called, where'd you get it from (I want it)!
Nice video! The partial ball bearing slides are awful. They have no load bearing capabilities at all. Even on a socks drawer the deform and no not work correctly in very little time. Since there are no other drawer slides that fit on dressers/drawers intended to use these partial ball bearing drawer slides, I replaced the drawer slides on couple of dressers with wooden runners from maple. These runners then slide into the grooves on the sides of drawers. Much better and maintenance free.
@@holzhandwerk_ak I had some understairs storage drawers fitted and one of them, in particular is very heavy. It is very difficult to pull out and with all the MDF it must be around 30kg in itself. It's just for shoe storage so nothing heavy. It's a kind of triangular shape in the smallest part of the understairs and about 90cm wide. They have put in 2 pairs of runners - all about 35mm in height, and I don't think they are going to last. I have told the installer to go and find more robust runners which I am hoping will make the drawer lighter to pull and get more longevity. Am I right in doing so? What should I insist on?
The second one, the ball bearing type made by Everbilt is absolutely crap. Fully extended the arms want to separate. It's totally junk, and not worh the time to install. Yes, there are ball bearings, but they hardly slide on the ball bearings. They slide on the tracks like the cheaper one, the first pair you displayed. The middle one is junk. Do you know of a good slide set for long drawers, not just kitchen cabinets, but more like a wooden file cabinet. The original slider set had the exact one installed, and I replaced them, only to still have them separate. It was junk from the beginning, and the second one is junk as well. Not worth the effort to bother with them..THEY ARE NOT HIGH QUALITY. I LIVED WITH THEM, AND THE NEW ONE I BOUGHT IS GOING BACK TO THE HARDWARE STORE WHERE I FOUND THEM. THE BRAND IS EVERBILT, AND THE BEARINGS DON'T EVEN ROTATE. DOESN'T MATTER THAT THEY'RE THERE...JUST FOR LOOKS
God bless you sir. I bought a 300 dollar tv stand and for the life of me I could not figure out the sliders and I was going insane. I found your video and I solved the issue in a min. Thanks!
I’m glad to hear it!
Thank you Andreas - a well- explained tutorial so now I can design my aluminium.utility canopy build here in South Australia - stay healthy 👀
Glad to hear it - good luck and enjoy your project!
First video, where i see a really compare between the main types of drawersliders.
Very good work!
Thanks Alfred! Glad to hear it!
We don't see enough of you! Always good videos.
Thanks Will, I’m still very busy at work and with other endeavours, unfortunately.
Thank you so much, I was confused about the slides, now I know I need to buy the roller slides🙏
Glad it was useful.
Thanks for this detailed explanation of the difference of slides
You’re welcome.
Great, thanks for the detailed description 👍
You’re welcome!
Nicely done & well presented. Good info for the novice woodworker!
Thanks Steve!
Very Good. I was searching for how "partial" a partial blockout installation of undermount slides could be. As far as the difference between Pro and DIYer slides. I would add the DIYer slides are the same no doubt as you said. However, The pro's don't get screws, brackets, clips or even instructions. They just get the side. Where the DIYer gets sort of a kit.
Dear Sir,
A very enlightening demonstration that will assist most of us choosing the correct type(s) for our projects. Very well presented. Kind regards.
Thanks.
Great interesting video, The ball bearing runner i have fitted about 20 in my workshop, just fitted 4 sets today they are good and easy to fit, yes your right they have to be a good fit.
Thanks for your feedback.
Very informative. Great explanation and demonstrations. Thank you.
Thanks. Glad you like it.
Danke für das Video. Super erklärt!
Freut mich. Gerne.
Superb breakdown - thank you
Thank you!
An excellent educational video, very helpful, thank you!
Thanks. Glad you like it.
I was so confused which one should I choose, thank you.
You’re welcome - glad I could help!
Very succinct and helpful. Thank you so much.
You’re welcome. Glad I could help.
Great video, thank you
Thank you, you’re welcome.
Thanks so much! valuable information as I am purchasing my cabinets today!
Glad I could help.
very nice and knowledgeable.
Thank you.
Great video, very informative and nice drawings! I just love youtube. I was wondering what kind of drawer slides to use, and what the difference was and after 12 minutes, I'm now an unofficial expert! Thank you!
You’re welcome!
Always good videos Thank you
Thanks Ahmet!
Cool!
Thanks.
Your video saved me I thought u was going mad lol with the second slide
Glad I could help.
Thanks, Big help!😎
Glad to hear it!
Great video!👍👍👍👍
Thanks.
Did have any recommendation on lubrications of the bearings type
I haven’t yet had the need to lubricate. I my slides, there was enough lubricant - I think if you buy good quality slides and the room is not extremely dusty, you don’t need to lubricate.
Thank you so much
You’re welcome!
Thank you so much,.
You’re welcome.
Thanks for the informative video Andreas.
I'm trying to find a ball-bearing drawer slide with an unusual capability. As you seem to be all over drawer runners, I ask you, have you ever come across a ball-bearing drawer runner that allows you to open the drawer from both sides. A drawer runner that closes so that all of the layers are over the top of each other but then can be pushed further to start extending the other way.
My wet saw has plain old ball-bearing runners which look the same as standard bearing runners except for that extra functionality described above. Looking forward to your response. If you know of them, could you please let me know what they are called so that I can hunt them down.
Cheers Ciaran
I’m not aware ever seeing such a drawer slide, sorry.
I've built a frame for some art work I created. I was going to use the frame and art to hide a small wall safe underneath it and thought about using the bearing slides mounted to the top and bottom of the frame but wasn't sure if it would work or if there was a more effective way to use this sliding mechanism idea.
I’m not sure if this is going to work, in this video Tom shares his experience with just such a setup and it didn’t work very well: th-cam.com/video/Psc2wm_vae0/w-d-xo.html - so perhaps you can find special slides for top/bottom mounting or try a different solution.
I'm trying to work out how to remove the ball bearing drawer once it is in situ.
There should be a small lever or knob on the side of the slide when the drawer is pulled out. Press it or move it and you unlock the slide and can then pull out the drawer.
Hi. Thank you for the informative video. One quick question. Is it possible to install the hinged slides partially in the groove on drawer carcass sides?
I suppose that would work even though the material of the carcass would get very thin in the groove possibly giving you trouble with the screws.
@@holzhandwerk_ak I anticipated that, so I doubled the sides with another 9mm sheet. Worked well, though it was difficult to line the slides at first.
Great video! I was wondering where I would be able to find the partial extension simple ball bearing runner you talked about? 4:30
Sorry, I don’t know where that would be in you country. Over here, they’re sold in regular hardware stores.
What about the small groove runners in your video thumbnail? EDIT: nvm I found it at 9:07, unfortunately I can't find anyone who shows how to install them, even the instructions don't mention how deep to cut the groove
I found some info here (in German): kalt.link/21 including videos about how to install them.
What is the typical weight the less expensive one can hold? do they make one a little heavier duty that the one you showed?
I don’t know - it wouldn’t help you much anyway because it’s unlikely you’ll get the exact same one. When you buy, the max load should be named on the label.
redusable size length ?
Thanks for the info. Am I right in thinking that the middle ball bearing one (the one most people use) parts are identical? i.e there is not a right and left piece?
Yes, they are identical.
Good day sir, interesting detail, @7:51 how far should be the wood away from the other side? 🤔
I think the standard measure is half an inch or 12,7 mm. At least that’s what it was on every slide I’ve used so far. The measurement is given on the package of the slide, though so you don’t have to remember that.
very nice ....
Thank you.
Why is one side different then the other on the first ones you explained? The right is different then the left. It's more curved to catch the wheel
In the video you only ever see one of the sides with two pieces: one gets attached to the carcass of the cabinet, the other to the drawer. So that’s why the two pieces are different.
Sir could you give the precise thickness of the ball bearing slide in inches?
They’re exactly half an inch.
Roller Runner gibt es auch als Vollauszug - siehe Blum Katalog 👷🏻♂️
Danke für den Tipp. Hab später gesehen, dass es sie auch von Hettich gibt. Wobei sie preislich so nahe an den regulären Vollauszügen sind, dass es sich mE nicht lohnt, nicht die „Richtigen“ zu kaufen.
Andreas Kalt der große Vorteil der rollschubauszüge ist die einfache Montage an der Unterkante der Schublade und der Umstand dass diese sehr große maßtoleranzen verkraften, ohne zu klemmen.
Das stimmt. Danke für den Hinweis Wolfram! Ich freue mich immer, von deiner großen Erfahrung zu profitieren! Danke, dass Du Dein Wissen teilst.
Which one is good for at least 45 to 50 kg?
You can get the full-extension ones in extra sturdy. But the highest weight-support I’ve found is 45 kg. I suppose you’d have to do some research into heavy-duty drawers slights.
What size screws are needed ?
Depends on the thickness of the material you screw into.
Thanks for the great explanation. Tell me (off topic - sorry!) about your "drill press" contraption you have in the background there - what's it called, where'd you get it from (I want it)!
Thanks. I made a video about it: kit.com/holzhandwerk_ak/my-drill-press-drill-mount
Nice video!
The partial ball bearing slides are awful. They have no load bearing capabilities at all. Even on a socks drawer the deform and no not work correctly in very little time. Since there are no other drawer slides that fit on dressers/drawers intended to use these partial ball bearing drawer slides, I replaced the drawer slides on couple of dressers with wooden runners from maple. These runners then slide into the grooves on the sides of drawers. Much better and maintenance free.
Thanks for your feedback.
Can’t you just mount the drawer on the second one and then it is hidden?
You have a slightly Irish flavour to your German accent when you speak English :-)
I lived in Galway, Ireland for a year back in 1999. Nice to hear that the Irish accent is still noticeable 😀
The plastic bits and balls came out of my slides . I am not a carpenter. what happened here? I put WD 40 in.
I suppose the liquid WD 40 lubricated too much and rinsed out the balls. Normally, you’d lubricate with grease which is stickier.
@@holzhandwerk_ak oh no!!! Thanks for letting me know. I guess this is one to throw away now?
It’s just a guess. But I think that’s likely
@@holzhandwerk_ak I had some understairs storage drawers fitted and one of them, in particular is very heavy. It is very difficult to pull out and with all the MDF it must be around 30kg in itself. It's just for shoe storage so nothing heavy. It's a kind of triangular shape in the smallest part of the understairs and about 90cm wide. They have put in 2 pairs of runners - all about 35mm in height, and I don't think they are going to last. I have told the installer to go and find more robust runners which I am hoping will make the drawer lighter to pull and get more longevity. Am I right in doing so? What should I insist on?
The second one, the ball bearing type made by Everbilt is absolutely crap. Fully extended the arms want to separate. It's totally junk, and not worh the time to install. Yes, there are ball bearings, but they hardly slide on the ball bearings. They slide on the tracks like the cheaper one, the first pair you displayed. The middle one is junk. Do you know of a good slide set for long drawers, not just kitchen cabinets, but more like a wooden file cabinet. The original slider set had the exact one installed, and I replaced them, only to still have them separate. It was junk from the beginning, and the second one is junk as well. Not worth the effort to bother with them..THEY ARE NOT HIGH QUALITY. I LIVED WITH THEM, AND THE NEW ONE I BOUGHT IS GOING BACK TO THE HARDWARE STORE WHERE I FOUND THEM. THE BRAND IS EVERBILT, AND THE BEARINGS DON'T EVEN ROTATE. DOESN'T MATTER THAT THEY'RE THERE...JUST FOR LOOKS
Hettich is a high quality brand that should also be available internationally.