Two ideas for ya. First, the Rival Nuzlock, where you can only use Pokemon your rival uses. Second, what about a run with no TMs or HMs allowed in battle?
I'd say the closest competition Beheeyem has is Vullaby/Rufflet in B/W, respectively. Unable to evolve until after the E4, and every other encounter is better in the areas you can find these two. As he said, Beheeyem is completely avoidable.
I'm assuming this presupposes trade evolutions are allowed (and you're allowed to do whatever you like to get one), since otherwise I really struggle to see what Karrablast can ever do, and unlike beheeyem getting one can absolutely be not your fault.
I wanna give a shoutout to solrock in Emerald. If you delay your Meteor Falls Encounter until after you get waterfall, assuming you have a zubat, you get a 50/50 chance if getting a Bagon in the back of Meteor Falls. Unfortunately, the other 50% is Solrock
This happened to me once and I was really disapointed. Solrock isn't like... useless, but it's competition is SALAMANCE AT THE ELITE FOUR. A elite four where psychic types struggle and in Emerald, there's an trainer with mutliple water/ice types and Wallace the champion! While one can sweep through the elite four with a linoone, so elite four ulity isn't super duper important assuming smart play, it's still always disapointing.
Honestly both solerock/lunatore and zubat are kind of better than bagon. Getting a rock type with somewhat high special defense for a fire gym is a good deal and crobat if renerally reallly strong for the entire playthrough. Meanwhile bagon is kind ogfbad as the only place it can be really used is elite four when it evolves into salamance. Even then dragon type kind of sucks there as Glacia has ice beam on every team member, Phoebe has it on one of her duskulls(which is easy to forget). Drake himself has dragon types and since dragon is special and super effective both ways salamance cant really take a hit that well and his ability does not do anything. During champion fight he can do a lot as long as watch out for tentacool. All it has to offer is stats and ability which are good but not good in playthrough. It's the same problem as blaziken, good monster but when everything has EQ and water being a fire type starter does not benefit it in the slightest.
@@RealEmar Salamence has it's flaws but it's also such a monster that even if it only becomes accesible for the E4 it's still gonna tear through them even with Ice Beam spam against it. The real loss for Blaziken is that you don't get Mudkip who absolutely dominates the game (scary grass types? In Hoenn? In Gen 3? Ha).
@@MrJcalvino Yes it is. It's not quite the monster it will become once the physical/ special split happens but it's plenty strong as a mixed monster. The dude has base 110 Sp Atk (the same as Jolteon who is usually solid in Nuzlockes, the same as Blaziken for that matter, it's literally one of the highest Sp Atks that you can get in RSE for that matter.) and base 100 speed, it's not like it's actually weak. Return and Earthquake has you covered for it's sky high attack, Flamethrower and Dragon Claw for it's Sp Atk, possibly teach it Aerial Ace for Ludicolo if playing Emerald. It's not necessarily worth the trouble to get but it is 100% a good mon in RSE nuzlockes. You are mistaking something being not necessarily worth the effort as it being bad. It does poorly against Glacia but she is not and never has been especially threatening. There are so many ways to deal with Ice types. It's more a testament to there being plenty of solid encounters in RSE than anything that Mence isn't completely busted.
This is all fun and games but imagine you are nearby Rustboro, you've invested your single use, pickable Repel to skip your Route 116 encounter so you can score the Whismur dupe is Rusturf Tunnel. You come back to Route 116 thinking about the endless possibilities of Pokémon available... like the extremely solid, MVP, guaranteed Guts, Taillow... or even the illusive but Brawly-nuking Abra... man, even Ninjask (or Shedinja if you allow it 👀) would be cool, coming from Queen Basalt, Nincada, itself... But then, you get your hands on a FREAKING SKITTY 💀
Yes, but the only other exclusive on that route is Nincada (who, despite memes, does very little in Gen 3). You're unlikely to permanently lose a good encounter to Skitty. Skarmory is an amazing single-route exclusive encounter that you'll regularly miss for Spinda.
Certainly not the worst possible Mon to get, I'd rather have Exploud over Delcatty in a run from the same route. It has got to be one of the worst possible wasted spots though.
@@LeftHook-em6rv The momentary relief of not finding Skitty followed instantly by the dawning horror that you aren't gonna be able to do Shedinja cheese.
Funnily enough Wugtrio is the sole reason I won the final battle. Against the ace, I sent out Wugtrio, who got oneshot, but Gooey triggered, so that my Skeledirge could outspeed and KO :)
I’ve started nuzlocke’s recently. So far, my biggest fails haven’t been the boss battles but rather the random trainers between routes - getting impatient and playing at 4-6x speed only to do something stupid as a result that gets a good Pokemon killed
In defense of Chatot in Platinum, while getting it in Route 222 is annoying, it can also very easily be Repel Manipulated. If you bring a 41 Pokemon and slap on a Repel, the only encounters that you should get is Electabuzz and Magneton during the day and morning. And during nighttime, if you get the Buizel dupe, you have a 100% chance of your encounter being Magneton. So, with this specific strategy, your Route 222 encounter should never be Chatot in Platinum.
I want to stand up for Galarian Stunfisk. Yes, it's disgusting, but every player can GUARANTEE that they're not encounter that Pokémon, because their location is always locked and they cannot appear randomly. The player can't even catch it before Bede defeats. And before that, 100% of other encounters spawn.
4:36 you joke, but there was a period where I worked at a call center where I actually did play Pokemon on my DS during work. Because all I needed to do was handle calls and complete the paperwork, my boss knew and never stopped me because I did my job
In any game with Combee, specifically male Combee is the worst encounter in the game. If we're not counting that, then in any game with Ledyba, Ledyba is the worst encounter in the game.
That's a bit harsh to Ledyba considering that it debuted in the same gen as Unown. A Ledian at least can provide some surprisingly good special bulk, early coverage via elemental punches and utility via screens.
In the video he's taking into account what you could've missed out on because of the bad encounter, Combee and Luvdisc are encounters that you can avoid, Unown is the only encounter in its cave anyway, and as for Ledyba you're only going to miss out on Pokemon that are common in most routes.
@@Diabl0Mask Fair enough for Sinnoh, and I suppose fair enough that he is only including pokémon native to their respective regions. However, if we're not considering that, it's still male Combee, and it's not simply avoidable in Kalos.
Never forget that Parró the Squawkabilly was able to not only nerf the attack of Turos Iron Valiant, but got the KO and finished the Normal only run with a Brave Bird after being called "easily dispensable by the mid game" 😒 If Squawkabilly has no fans, I am no longer alive
@@BJGvideos they're perfectly goofy imo, a bit of a seagull, a bit of a parrot Kilowattrel can kick rocks, Squawkabilly is the Paldea regional bird to me
12:18 I genuinely enjoy using Beeheyem in BW, you get Charge Beam right around the time you catch Elgyem and mine turned the entire Flying gym into fried wings
Honestly, that was the weirdest pick of the list. He said himself that you can easily avoid it if you don't need it, but as you pointed out, it can be a lifesaver if you missed out on Electric type encounters thus far. Getting Feroseed as your Chargestone Cave encounter is not that unlikely and can put your run in a tight spot in the short term, even if Ferrothorn is amazing late-game. Definitely not the best encounter in Unova, but it feels like there's much worse too.
@@LonesomeDevil Unova is just such a Great Region with almost endless Possibilities of Coverage thanks to TMs and wide Movesets that such a Mediocre Mon just is the worse in a Region while it'd be a good Pick in almost every other Region. I've played Countless Nuzlockes in Gen 5 and I haven't had a single Mon yet which wasn't useful at some Point.
The use of Kingdom Hearts music throughout this video was a musical treat to the ears and I’m really hoping you do a Kingdom Hearts naming theme in one of your future runs now.
@ How would that even work? At most you are getting seven dream eaters to use during the run and you’d want to wait until later in the game to guarantee better encounters.
I wonder if Uncle Jim could rig up a copy of Scarlet/Violet featuring only these pokemon. Although I suppose your mental health has suffered enough with Run and Bun.
Wugtrio is a serious enigma, being a convergent species i have no idea why it HAS the exact same stats as dugtrio and is worse in every possible way since it's move pool is more shallow then a puddle full of magikarps and has a completely useless set of abilities and while i don't do Nuzlocke's...i do think maybe 1 dishonorable mention in gen 9 would be Finizen since you do need to go out of your way to evolve it as it requires being in a union circle, so if that's not allowed to be done then you won't be able to evolve it at all into palafin who is a monster, also i think Shiinotic is another bad mon from gen 7, really slow with a terrible typing in grass/fairy that makes it vulnerable to a lot of types especially with poison (also it can get illuminate as an ability which does nothing but makes random encounters far more frequent and annoying)
the garchomp dig lmao btw would love to see a nuzlocke of SV but where you do the DLCs like how you did kanto for HGSS, would be a very interesting endgame challenge with whatever restriction you play with since its almost all doubles
18:03 I used “Snapfisk” in a mono ground run and he was a bit underwhelming his only real trait was his surprising survivability rate and Revenge plus Rocky Helmet worked surprisingly well
Uh what? Lotad is much better than Seedot, and Ludicolo is an amazing encounter, even it you don't get it before the Elite Four. You don't know Pokemon.
Uncle Jim might be able to make a duplicate of Scarlet/Violet that only has these Pokemon. But I guess Run and Bun have already taken a toll on your mental health.
Onix and Steelix really bum me out. I absolutely adore them aesthetically, Onix is wonderfully simple and Steelix is really cool but boy Onix sure is stanky and Steelix is rarely the best option. Poor guy could use several distinct major buffs. Your picks seem generally correct in my experience. It serms fair to not call out Male Combee because if someone is going for Vespiquen they've accepted that it's probably going to hurt them. Male Salandit is slightly less of an acceptable risk though. Spinda on Skarmory route is probably the all-time pick though.
@tomfrost2600 That one was a real burn for me. They managed to make Pidgeot and Beedrill significantly more gnarly with their Megas even if they were still pretty unimpressive in the grand scheme of things but they couldn't do anything even a little bit interesting with Mega Steelix. Steelix is probably in my top 10 favorite Mons from a design perspective in the entire series but gosh it's weak. It's gotta be one of the most notable examples of stats not fitting the idea. 30 foot long metal monster? Gotta be strong and tough but slow right? Nope, just big defense.
Fr you see a giant rock you expect it to be strong but all it has going for it and good def and decent speed and just trash everything else and Bruno has like 2 of them. Like I'm disappointed it wasn't in the same league as like Lapras, Kangaskhan, Snorlax, or even Tauros who are soild single stage mon but Onix is so trash it's in the 1st gym and just a awful typing on top of it
@@Rikoyasha15 It's a riddle for the ages why Bruno didn't have Primeape and Poliwrath in Gen 1. It could have been an intentional gimmick for the Gen 1 Elite 4 that all of them use literally every fully evolved mon of there expertise (admitedly because several only have one family to work with at the time, god Gen 1 is jank) but Bruno just doesn't for no reason at all. Onix being garbage was always especially frustrating for me as a young kid playing Red version because the battle with Brock was really intense in the early anime. People like to make jokes about how Ash only won by cheating (fair) but that was a brutal match before the shenanigans.
Onix would be perfect for what it is if you took 80 points of its defense and spread them to its other stats. Imagine if it had like 55 HP, 70 ATK, 50 SpA & 60 SpD? It's be a pretty serviceable first stage.
If I had a nickel for every time a Poketuber I watch used the cat meme in their thumbnail but as Pokemon instead, I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice
Whilst I think that this is debatable, I'd like to put forward Male Combee as the Sinnoh champion of god-awful. Carnivine probably locks you out of better encounters, sure, but like you said, you kind of have to go out of your way to get it. Imagine waiting 6 hours for a chance at a Munchlax, Heracross, or at least a Wurmple that you can evolve early on for a decent Gardenia encounter (though you probably have it duped by the time you get to the first couple of honey trees anyway), and out pops a Male Combee. Like, this thing literally isn't worth anything. A Female would be fine, if not amazing, but a Male Combee is the biggest disappointment of an encounter I can think of. Add to that that in Platinum, it's the first pokemon in Group A, meaning there's a 70% chance for Group A to be picked, and then 40% of the time, it's a Combee. It's gender ratio is 87.5% male, too, so your chance at getting one is really, really high.
Great vid, good to get some insight on what mons are truly burdens for all nuzlockers. Figured to bring some light to people who like some of the mons mentioned on this list (some not on the list mind you), I'd talk about some places where they are surprisingly okay! (please note that this is purely my own experience with the games and is limited to that scope) First one I have something to say about is Magcargo! In Colosseum, it's actually not horrible to pick situationally as your encounter in Pyrite Town. While I would say there's obvious opportunity cost going against mons like Misdreavus or Quagsire, if you're using Bayleef this mon is worth picking up. Why? For starters, it's one of two non-Quilava fire types in the game. And good luck trying to catch Entei against Dakim, a run ending trainer without Entei being caught in the plan. Slugma also starts with Flamethrower. A 90 base power Fire type STAB move coming off of 70 base Sp. Atk is nothing to scoff at in this power level. Even if it's other stats are garbage... You can also use this thing in Miror B's fight to pivot Croconaw out of Ludicolo's grass moves, and bait water for it to come back in while the other pokemon cleans (personally Mantine is my go-to for this fight, pre-Hypered to take advantage of 95% crit on Shadow Rush and Swift Swim). For utility, it also has Yawn, a more reliable way to put mons to sleep and catch shadows unlike Skiploom's Sleep Powder with a nasty 75% accuracy. Towards mid to late game, getting rock typing at 38 (8 levels from when you get it at 30) definitely helps with pivoting when using Meganium. it resists flying, poison, bug, ice, and fire, all of Meganium's Weaknesses. Meganium also resists the Water and Ground moves that make it cry itself to sleep at night. It also gets some great moves like Body Slam, Fire Blast, and Earthquake as either TMs or tutor moves, while Rock Slide comes at 43 if you delay evo or 48. While it's niche, I would say for a Meganium partner this is something you should consider picking up in Pyrite. Next one is Ariados in XD. Picking up the Spinarak at Cipher Lab is genuinely not a bad idea. If you're counting the six type specialists as separate encounters bc they are outside of the building and not using first encounter rules (Colo/XD are weird bc you have forced battles and that's how you catch mons), this mon is an option to consider. It gets Silver Powder as an item, and Signal Beam as a move. This hits hard relatively to what else you have access to once it has evolved into Ariados, and strong Bug STAB is genuinely very good in these games. Dig as coverage and Night Shade for whittling down Shadows reliably are both other tools that make this mon an interesting option over a Walrein with mediocre STAB options (and potential overlap with Vaporeon) or Yawning Swalot. You also have Sludge Bomb and Shadow Ball as available STAB or coverage. Would recommend giving it a try, even if it doesn't seem worth later on (personally I used it throughout my second playthrough) Next up is Carnivine in Pokemon Conquest of all things. Its ability Levitate comes into actual use, as it allows the mon to traverse any terrain with ease, ignore most field effects, and climb cliffs to move much more efficiently than your other units. Vine Whip also covers an entire 3 tile row in front of you, and can rack up a lot of damage if positioned correctly which Levitate lends itself to. It has great stats to back that up as well. It's very useful throughout early game, and I wouldn't say it's the worst utility option later on either. I'm glad Swanna and the monkeys were left off the actual list, but their bad rep isn't really well earned IMO. Swanna gets Surf, Dive, and Fly, and can pair that with Toxic (route 17 backtrack Surf TM) or Roost (level up)/Protect (Professor reward) to function as your HM user and a decent Toxic Staller if it needs to fight (Fly and Dive have synergy with racking up Toxic damage, as does Protect). Ducklett at least helps against Clay's Palpitoad and can revenge kill with access to Bubble Beam, Swanna also helps with Marshal. Though I would say that both trainers have a lot of Rock moves so you'll need to focus specific targets. They don't really struggle against any gym leader after you get them either. Completely free to just take at Drawbridge and manip a later encounter as well. The monkeys all are useful against the first BW gym, and get useful TMs for the other gyms like Rock Smash, Dig, Acrobatics, Shadow Claw, and others. Of course they're fully evolved by Burgh so everything but Simisage is useful there, who is instead a good pivot for Elesa's electric moves. I wouldn't say they're incredible or anything, but it's the best you're getting in Dreamyard bc who wants to try and roll for the shaking grass Musharna or waste it on an Audino after a rough gym fight without a monkey to help. B2W2 doesn't really have them available very often if at all, so not really worth talking about in those games. Obligatory line here about Contrary Superpower and Leaf Storm on Lurantis, but it's really not anything special without Ability Patches which you're just not realistically getting most of the time. Anyways hope this was somewhat uplifting for fans of these mons, if course if you think I'm wrong about something that's fair! Just personal experience, and sorry if you've seen me repeat myself ab any of these mons, I've talked about them before just bc I find niche ways pokemon can be useful somewhat interesting. Thanks!
I know this is about the gen they are in, but I used Delibird to great effect in a wedlocke in Shield. His name is Happy and I was stuck with him since in a wedlocke I can't change pokemon unless I lose one. He is still alive and has done great things on his own. That is pretty situational though and results may vary.
Onix in sinnoh can be found in the mines before the first gym and makes a great counter for mars and Jupiters first battles (ik you were talking about gen 1 onix but the few seconds of sinnoh got my brain itching 😂)
I was doing a White 2 nuzlocke one time, and I needed something useful against Elesa from Route 4. I was thinking to myself "with my luck, the first encounter will be a Minccino". Well, guess what happened: It was indeed a Minccino, I killed the Desert Resort encounter, and as well as the Yamask in Relic Castle. Obviously, I wanted to sacrifice it to Elesa, however, it ended up winning me the battle.
Honorable mention in Gen 3: Geodude. Route 111 has those rocks that block you off to Lavaridge, and if you get unlucky/forget to repel up, you may be stuck with the rock instead of, like, Trapinch
I'm so glad that Lurantis was brought up for gen 7. It was on my USUM nuzlocke team, and it was awful. I hardly found any point where it was a good idea to use it, and even when I did, it nearly died every time. It was literally 1 HP away from getting OH-KOd by psychic fangs from Faba's Bruxish. Its greatest contribution was being a sacrifice swap-in for Kahili, which I believe is the fate it deserved.
RBY Pidgey Edit: if it was FRLG or LGPE, it'd definitely be Onix, but in RBY, even Onix is better than Pidgey as an encounter. Pidgey's only flying type level up move is Sky Attack, the best it gets from TM is the measly pre buff base 70 power Fly, and while stab gen 1 Hyper Beam is amazing and gen 1 Double Edge is fine (before ot was buffed from 100 hase power to 120 basepower), Pidgeot isn't gonna be getting much use out of it with how weak it is. At least Onix has the what if scenario of not encountering a Geodude or Rhyhorn, but there's like 14 normal types and not close to as many rock types in gen 1. And even if you don't want to invest TMs on Onix, which I agree with, you can send it out to wall and slowly widdle down a normal or electric type
Whismer is actually kind of important in Treecko runs of Emerald as one of your only answers into Wattson's Magneton. Granted, you need to grind the Flamethrower TM, which sucks, but your other options are Geodude and Makuhita. You are guaranteed one of them, but can never get both unless you're using some kind of pinwheel clause, so make or break the backup check into Magneton is always worthwhile.
I think the only pick I have issue with are G-Stunfisk but it's not because I think it's particularly good. It's just difficult to justify any lost opportunity cost in those games because, by seeing encounters in the overworld, you have almost total control over what Pokemon you get. I bring this up because, like you said, no encounter is truly useless, which really makes opportunity cost the most important metric. In Gen 9 every encounter is visible in the overworld, so it's all equal. However, in Gen 8 there are still random encounters in grass, which makes it difficult to see which encounters have the most opportunity cost. On a precursory look, Milcery and G-Meowth on Route 4 stand out, along with Sandaconda on Route 6, and G-Ponyta in Glimwood. My personal choice would probably be G-Ponyta because I'm pretty sure every other encounter in Glimwood is more useful and unlike in other areas there are next to no overworld encounters (only the fixed Impidimp and Morgrem spawns).
Really enjoy this video and the previous part. They're fun guides and get me to think a lot about different encounters. I would like to put forth some alternatives: Gen I: Ditto. Very few pokemon worth transforming into, the other Pokemon Mansion encounters are more useful for that point in the game, and it's a hard Pokemon to use Gen II: Corsola. Only place you can catch it is the same place as Staryu Gen III: Delcatty. What if we made Exploud but worse and in the same location, but twice as long to evolve one stage? Gen IV: honestly can't compete with Carnivine, but I'd put forth Cherrim as also outclassed by almost every other Grass type and an infinitely worse Roserade Gen V: Maractus. It eats up your Desert Resort encounter (every other one is somewhere from good to great), and isn't even a good answer for Clay. At least Beheeyem can deal with Plasma Grunts and Conkeldurr Gen VI: Pangoro. Hard to guarantee you'll get two Dark types to evolve it, and you're missing out on a potential Intimidate Scraggy via horde manipulations Gen IX: i was gonna say Tatsugiri where you're effectively playing as a Nasty Plot sweeper and miss out on Dondozo, but I can't argue with Wugtrio. Completely forgot about that poor sucker. Again, I really have enjoyed these companion pieces and getting your added insight to various nuzlocke Pokemon. Keep up the good work
I'd say I'm surprised Crabominable was left out given that in OG Sun and Moon you evolve him at the very end of the game, and while he's pretty good offensively he's terrible defensively and quite slow, but Crabrawler is actually really solid in the early stages of Alola. Also while very out of the way, you can get him almost immediately if you wanted in Paldea due to the open world nature of the region and a stupid high attack stat and Ice/Fighting combo that early on is stupid good. Glaceon would probably be better if you really wanted to do such a thing with getting an early Ice Stone but point stands.
Carnivine is awful, but you're not gonna get him so it doesn't matter. in my opinion the worst Sinnoh encounter is a male Combee. Most honey tree encounters are pretty decent if not good, but this thing does absolutely nothing.
Would love to see a nuzlocke where you're limited to the pokemon you shit on the most. Onix, without ever evolving, unfeazant, spinda, lickitung, and sure. Why not. Garchomp (no TMs)
I don't know how often you hear this, but your videos always make me smile. I hope you keep finding joy in games and content creation for years to come! Thank you
I can think of two other pokemon not mentioned that are worthy of consideration - Skitty in Gen 3 and Maractus in Gen 5. With only a 1% encounter rate on the only route in the game it appears on, you're very unlucky if you get it, because you could have gotten an Abra or a Nincada (future Shedinja) there instead. Maractus again is for opportunity cost. While I think you're right that losing out on Litwick is worse, getting a Maractus in the desert resort means you didn't get a Sandile, Dwebble, Scrafty or Darumaka there, all of which are fantastic encounters.
IMO Luxray is on enough routes in DP/Pt/BDSP that if you get a Rivalry one, it's worth it to just kill it and reroll on the next route. Weird thing to think about, but GarchompFJ might be my favourite "TH-camr's Evil Twin" bit just because he's not solely an antagonist or a strawman or a punchbag, sometimes he's just right and Flygon makes himself the unreasonable one. Keeps him fresh and entertaining instead of becoming annoying.
Beatrice the Galarian Stunfisk was irreplaceable, you scoundrel. She would have gone to the Pokemon Championship or whatever it's called in Galar, but I got greedy and wanted a Dragapult. That Drakloak in Lake of Outrage nearly wiped us, but I decided (since it was my first Nuzlocke) that i would only count one death, and I needed Angela the Malamar for the League. Beatrice once lived a G-max move and killed with a Revenge (i forget against which gym). She was a goddamn national treasure, and I implore you to never speak of Galarian Stunfisk that way again.
So the clear path forward is to making “Pokémon but I can only use the worse encounter from each route,” and as a palate cleanser you can do a best Pokémon run
My favorite thing about wugtrio is that it's the fastest pokemon that gets final gambit so there could potentially be a niche for it in competitive Pokemon but its HP is so low it can't trade with anything. It can't even die right.
Lurantis pick is sad but true. I used one in my (normal) UM playthrough and she was the one party member I was frustrated with because she was one stage for so long and not strong enough after. Died so many times.
my god flygon you should do more videos like this🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I liked it a lot, I mean everthing about it was great. The pacing, editing and you as a pokemon fan and pro nuzlocker made it super fun. Much love from Spain
As someone that recently used Galarian Stunfisk in a nuzlocke. I can tell you, that you are in fact missing out. On having to restart your run because Kabu is going to sweep you for not getting a better Pokemon.
I used Exploud on my Emerald Nuzlocke. I almost wiped on Brawly since I was Mud-Slapping as he bulked up, and then he Vital Throwed all my boys. Only Level 8 Whismur survived. Exploud was my boy! Good offenses, and fast and bulky enough.
Exploud is the backup to your backup, _to your backup._ It's not good and is outclassed by pretty much everything, but if your other team members died, he can do the job somewhat fine.
counter argument in alola: if you get Pyukumuku from one of the beaches it means you lost out on Starmie instead, which is obviously a pretty significant blow
Ya know what, Mr. Dr. FlygonHG, I have a post video question for you: If fate would deem it so in this theoretical, which of the big stinkers you listed in this video would you prefer to have as an encounter in a nuzlocke, assuming they're all in the dex for this scenario? And which would you avoid like the plague? Let's also assume you encounter these mons at the start of midgame around the early 20s with two or three badges collected, to give them a chance at a (likely temporary) team slot. Out of a group of the worst, there's still a best and worst among them, and I wanna here your choices for each spot and why.
"Bruxfish is an absolutely unsettling and bizarre concept for a pokemon." I dont know if flygon is talking about just it's looks or not but if he is he needs to look at the real animal that inspired it (triggerfish) because the pokemon isnt too far off of it.
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I ship Flygon only with Squarespace!
Two ideas for ya. First, the Rival Nuzlock, where you can only use Pokemon your rival uses. Second, what about a run with no TMs or HMs allowed in battle?
12:58 Cut Beheeyem some Slack here. Evolving at lv 42 is actually pretty dang early for a Unova Pokemon.
Lol 🤣
Yeah, but the others are just better...😀
I'd say the closest competition Beheeyem has is Vullaby/Rufflet in B/W, respectively. Unable to evolve until after the E4, and every other encounter is better in the areas you can find these two. As he said, Beheeyem is completely avoidable.
Litwick evolves at 41
I'm assuming this presupposes trade evolutions are allowed (and you're allowed to do whatever you like to get one), since otherwise I really struggle to see what Karrablast can ever do, and unlike beheeyem getting one can absolutely be not your fault.
Now we should have a nuzlock with those mons
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I wanna give a shoutout to solrock in Emerald.
If you delay your Meteor Falls Encounter until after you get waterfall, assuming you have a zubat, you get a 50/50 chance if getting a Bagon in the back of Meteor Falls.
Unfortunately, the other 50% is Solrock
This happened to me once and I was really disapointed. Solrock isn't like... useless, but it's competition is SALAMANCE AT THE ELITE FOUR. A elite four where psychic types struggle and in Emerald, there's an trainer with mutliple water/ice types and Wallace the champion! While one can sweep through the elite four with a linoone, so elite four ulity isn't super duper important assuming smart play, it's still always disapointing.
Honestly both solerock/lunatore and zubat are kind of better than bagon. Getting a rock type with somewhat high special defense for a fire gym is a good deal and crobat if renerally reallly strong for the entire playthrough. Meanwhile bagon is kind ogfbad as the only place it can be really used is elite four when it evolves into salamance. Even then dragon type kind of sucks there as Glacia has ice beam on every team member, Phoebe has it on one of her duskulls(which is easy to forget). Drake himself has dragon types and since dragon is special and super effective both ways salamance cant really take a hit that well and his ability does not do anything. During champion fight he can do a lot as long as watch out for tentacool. All it has to offer is stats and ability which are good but not good in playthrough. It's the same problem as blaziken, good monster but when everything has EQ and water being a fire type starter does not benefit it in the slightest.
@@RealEmar Salamence has it's flaws but it's also such a monster that even if it only becomes accesible for the E4 it's still gonna tear through them even with Ice Beam spam against it. The real loss for Blaziken is that you don't get Mudkip who absolutely dominates the game (scary grass types? In Hoenn? In Gen 3? Ha).
Salamence isn’t that good. No physical/special split in Gen 3 and quite some presence of Ice moves in the League.
@@MrJcalvino Yes it is. It's not quite the monster it will become once the physical/ special split happens but it's plenty strong as a mixed monster. The dude has base 110 Sp Atk (the same as Jolteon who is usually solid in Nuzlockes, the same as Blaziken for that matter, it's literally one of the highest Sp Atks that you can get in RSE for that matter.) and base 100 speed, it's not like it's actually weak. Return and Earthquake has you covered for it's sky high attack, Flamethrower and Dragon Claw for it's Sp Atk, possibly teach it Aerial Ace for Ludicolo if playing Emerald. It's not necessarily worth the trouble to get but it is 100% a good mon in RSE nuzlockes. You are mistaking something being not necessarily worth the effort as it being bad. It does poorly against Glacia but she is not and never has been especially threatening. There are so many ways to deal with Ice types. It's more a testament to there being plenty of solid encounters in RSE than anything that Mence isn't completely busted.
This is all fun and games but imagine you are nearby Rustboro, you've invested your single use, pickable Repel to skip your Route 116 encounter so you can score the Whismur dupe is Rusturf Tunnel. You come back to Route 116 thinking about the endless possibilities of Pokémon available... like the extremely solid, MVP, guaranteed Guts, Taillow... or even the illusive but Brawly-nuking Abra... man, even Ninjask (or Shedinja if you allow it 👀) would be cool, coming from Queen Basalt, Nincada, itself...
But then, you get your hands on a FREAKING SKITTY 💀
I mean it gets assist... That's like... Legally a niche
I love skitty, but you're not wrong
Yes, but the only other exclusive on that route is Nincada (who, despite memes, does very little in Gen 3). You're unlikely to permanently lose a good encounter to Skitty. Skarmory is an amazing single-route exclusive encounter that you'll regularly miss for Spinda.
@@1umbreon4life Ninjask helped my Heracross sweep Steven by baton passing a Swords Dance & Speed boost to it 👍
Worst one I can think of is getting a whismur before the tunnel in hoenn.
Certainly not the worst possible Mon to get, I'd rather have Exploud over Delcatty in a run from the same route. It has got to be one of the worst possible wasted spots though.
@ it’s more so about missing out on any encounters in the cave aside from geodude with rock smash
@@thatonedude5277 I get it, the wasted slot is a shame but it's ultimately a pretty minor issue in the early game.
That moment of “oh shit I forgot to Repel”
@@LeftHook-em6rv The momentary relief of not finding Skitty followed instantly by the dawning horror that you aren't gonna be able to do Shedinja cheese.
Funnily enough Wugtrio is the sole reason I won the final battle. Against the ace, I sent out Wugtrio, who got oneshot, but Gooey triggered, so that my Skeledirge could outspeed and KO :)
“even the gay duck” took me OUT lmao
I’ve started nuzlocke’s recently. So far, my biggest fails haven’t been the boss battles but rather the random trainers between routes - getting impatient and playing at 4-6x speed only to do something stupid as a result that gets a good Pokemon killed
Welcome to the world of Nuzlockes, my friend. We know your pain.
In defense of Chatot in Platinum, while getting it in Route 222 is annoying, it can also very easily be Repel Manipulated. If you bring a 41 Pokemon and slap on a Repel, the only encounters that you should get is Electabuzz and Magneton during the day and morning. And during nighttime, if you get the Buizel dupe, you have a 100% chance of your encounter being Magneton. So, with this specific strategy, your Route 222 encounter should never be Chatot in Platinum.
I want to stand up for Galarian Stunfisk.
Yes, it's disgusting, but every player can GUARANTEE that they're not encounter that Pokémon, because their location is always locked and they cannot appear randomly. The player can't even catch it before Bede defeats. And before that, 100% of other encounters spawn.
4:36 you joke, but there was a period where I worked at a call center where I actually did play Pokemon on my DS during work.
Because all I needed to do was handle calls and complete the paperwork, my boss knew and never stopped me because I did my job
In any game with Combee, specifically male Combee is the worst encounter in the game. If we're not counting that, then in any game with Ledyba, Ledyba is the worst encounter in the game.
That's a bit harsh to Ledyba considering that it debuted in the same gen as Unown. A Ledian at least can provide some surprisingly good special bulk, early coverage via elemental punches and utility via screens.
@@corhydrae3238 True. I keep forgetting that Unown exists haha
In the video he's taking into account what you could've missed out on because of the bad encounter, Combee and Luvdisc are encounters that you can avoid, Unown is the only encounter in its cave anyway, and as for Ledyba you're only going to miss out on Pokemon that are common in most routes.
@@Diabl0Mask Fair enough for Sinnoh, and I suppose fair enough that he is only including pokémon native to their respective regions.
However, if we're not considering that, it's still male Combee, and it's not simply avoidable in Kalos.
Spinda IS terrible. But god do I love that dizzy little guy. Loving an objectively bad (gameplay-wise) Pokemon keeps ya humble
Plus if you played mystery dungeon explorers of sky spinda hooked you up with some delicious smoothies
terrible for sure but how many pokemon can say they are able to play doom on their own face? spinda can play doom, look it up its real
Never forget that Parró the Squawkabilly was able to not only nerf the attack of Turos Iron Valiant, but got the KO and finished the Normal only run with a Brave Bird after being called "easily dispensable by the mid game" 😒
If Squawkabilly has no fans, I am no longer alive
They're hilarious birds and you can catch one right away since they perch on your house
@@BJGvideos they're perfectly goofy imo, a bit of a seagull, a bit of a parrot
Kilowattrel can kick rocks, Squawkabilly is the Paldea regional bird to me
12:18 I genuinely enjoy using Beeheyem in BW, you get Charge Beam right around the time you catch Elgyem and mine turned the entire Flying gym into fried wings
Honestly, that was the weirdest pick of the list. He said himself that you can easily avoid it if you don't need it, but as you pointed out, it can be a lifesaver if you missed out on Electric type encounters thus far. Getting Feroseed as your Chargestone Cave encounter is not that unlikely and can put your run in a tight spot in the short term, even if Ferrothorn is amazing late-game.
Definitely not the best encounter in Unova, but it feels like there's much worse too.
@@LonesomeDevil Unova is just such a Great Region with almost endless Possibilities of Coverage thanks to TMs and wide Movesets that such a Mediocre Mon just is the worse in a Region while it'd be a good Pick in almost every other Region. I've played Countless Nuzlockes in Gen 5 and I haven't had a single Mon yet which wasn't useful at some Point.
The use of Kingdom Hearts music throughout this video was a musical treat to the ears and I’m really hoping you do a Kingdom Hearts naming theme in one of your future runs now.
I dare the community to try a KH3D nuzlocke
@ How would that even work? At most you are getting seven dream eaters to use during the run and you’d want to wait until later in the game to guarantee better encounters.
genuinely surprised to not see Male Combee on this list
Probably because you can pretty easily avoid encountering one in Gen 4 by skipping honey trees
I wonder if Uncle Jim could rig up a copy of Scarlet/Violet featuring only these pokemon. Although I suppose your mental health has suffered enough with Run and Bun.
Wugtrio is a serious enigma, being a convergent species i have no idea why it HAS the exact same stats as dugtrio and is worse in every possible way since it's move pool is more shallow then a puddle full of magikarps and has a completely useless set of abilities
and while i don't do Nuzlocke's...i do think maybe 1 dishonorable mention in gen 9 would be Finizen since you do need to go out of your way to evolve it as it requires being in a union circle, so if that's not allowed to be done then you won't be able to evolve it at all into palafin who is a monster, also i think Shiinotic is another bad mon from gen 7, really slow with a terrible typing in grass/fairy that makes it vulnerable to a lot of types especially with poison (also it can get illuminate as an ability which does nothing but makes random encounters far more frequent and annoying)
I assume Shiinotic was left out due to Spore? Any guranteed sleep is p good in a nuzlocke
though i agree the baad speed def lowers the value haha
That's a good idea for a gimmick nuzlock video. Can't wait to see this team in the next one.
"Fellow skidmark Magcargo" was so damn savage and it hurt so much to hear as someone who really likes Slugma and Magcargo lol
magcargo just desperately needs an evolution with how horrendous it is
You want to see love for it, go check out Team Fourstar's Soul Silver Nuzlocke. Their Magcargo was their baby boy and every day was his birthday
the garchomp dig lmao
btw would love to see a nuzlocke of SV but where you do the DLCs like how you did kanto for HGSS, would be a very interesting endgame challenge with whatever restriction you play with since its almost all doubles
Spinda may not be good at a lot of things, but he can mix up a mean juice.👍
It spends too much time at Perrserker's pub after a hard day's graft in the mines
Wait wrong channel
18:03 I used “Snapfisk” in a mono ground run and he was a bit underwhelming his only real trait was his surprising survivability rate and Revenge plus Rocky Helmet worked surprisingly well
Lotad in emerald is pretty bad since on that same route you could get Seedot or Ralts. Also you can’t get ludicolo until the last gym.
Immediately useful into Roxanne, gets a ton of utility moves. Lotad is a good encounter
"You could get Seedot" who would want Seedot over Lotad ?
Seedot is worse than Lotad. Tbf most Gen 3 nuzzlock uses Mudkip.
Uh what? Lotad is much better than Seedot, and Ludicolo is an amazing encounter, even it you don't get it before the Elite Four. You don't know Pokemon.
isn't it possible to get a water stone before the 8th gym?
Uncle Jim might be able to make a duplicate of Scarlet/Violet that only has these Pokemon. But I guess Run and Bun have already taken a toll on your mental health.
Onix and Steelix really bum me out. I absolutely adore them aesthetically, Onix is wonderfully simple and Steelix is really cool but boy Onix sure is stanky and Steelix is rarely the best option. Poor guy could use several distinct major buffs.
Your picks seem generally correct in my experience. It serms fair to not call out Male Combee because if someone is going for Vespiquen they've accepted that it's probably going to hurt them. Male Salandit is slightly less of an acceptable risk though. Spinda on Skarmory route is probably the all-time pick though.
Even mega steelix is pretty bad
@tomfrost2600 That one was a real burn for me. They managed to make Pidgeot and Beedrill significantly more gnarly with their Megas even if they were still pretty unimpressive in the grand scheme of things but they couldn't do anything even a little bit interesting with Mega Steelix. Steelix is probably in my top 10 favorite Mons from a design perspective in the entire series but gosh it's weak. It's gotta be one of the most notable examples of stats not fitting the idea. 30 foot long metal monster? Gotta be strong and tough but slow right? Nope, just big defense.
Fr you see a giant rock you expect it to be strong but all it has going for it and good def and decent speed and just trash everything else and Bruno has like 2 of them. Like I'm disappointed it wasn't in the same league as like Lapras, Kangaskhan, Snorlax, or even Tauros who are soild single stage mon but Onix is so trash it's in the 1st gym and just a awful typing on top of it
@@Rikoyasha15 It's a riddle for the ages why Bruno didn't have Primeape and Poliwrath in Gen 1. It could have been an intentional gimmick for the Gen 1 Elite 4 that all of them use literally every fully evolved mon of there expertise (admitedly because several only have one family to work with at the time, god Gen 1 is jank) but Bruno just doesn't for no reason at all. Onix being garbage was always especially frustrating for me as a young kid playing Red version because the battle with Brock was really intense in the early anime. People like to make jokes about how Ash only won by cheating (fair) but that was a brutal match before the shenanigans.
Onix would be perfect for what it is if you took 80 points of its defense and spread them to its other stats.
Imagine if it had like 55 HP, 70 ATK, 50 SpA & 60 SpD? It's be a pretty serviceable first stage.
9:30 KIRBY TRIPLE DELUXE MUSIC LET'S GOOOO
If I had a nickel for every time a Poketuber I watch used the cat meme in their thumbnail but as Pokemon instead, I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice
Whilst I think that this is debatable, I'd like to put forward Male Combee as the Sinnoh champion of god-awful.
Carnivine probably locks you out of better encounters, sure, but like you said, you kind of have to go out of your way to get it.
Imagine waiting 6 hours for a chance at a Munchlax, Heracross, or at least a Wurmple that you can evolve early on for a decent Gardenia encounter (though you probably have it duped by the time you get to the first couple of honey trees anyway), and out pops a Male Combee. Like, this thing literally isn't worth anything. A Female would be fine, if not amazing, but a Male Combee is the biggest disappointment of an encounter I can think of.
Add to that that in Platinum, it's the first pokemon in Group A, meaning there's a 70% chance for Group A to be picked, and then 40% of the time, it's a Combee. It's gender ratio is 87.5% male, too, so your chance at getting one is really, really high.
You made a Chungus reference. You're now banned from Bortposting. You, your children and your children's children! For 3 months!
Bortposting reference in the TH-cam comments? Something's not right...
@jetsetjordan1890 that's 2 independent bortposting thoughts in one day.
The only logical step is to beat a game using only these encounters.
5:09 Leave my 🐐 Delibird alone! 😭
18:56 ESPECIALLY the Gay Duck
The Brazilian gay duck
That's my gay duck!
@@Vangag Didn't know he can double jump
Great vid, good to get some insight on what mons are truly burdens for all nuzlockers. Figured to bring some light to people who like some of the mons mentioned on this list (some not on the list mind you), I'd talk about some places where they are surprisingly okay!
(please note that this is purely my own experience with the games and is limited to that scope)
First one I have something to say about is Magcargo! In Colosseum, it's actually not horrible to pick situationally as your encounter in Pyrite Town. While I would say there's obvious opportunity cost going against mons like Misdreavus or Quagsire, if you're using Bayleef this mon is worth picking up. Why? For starters, it's one of two non-Quilava fire types in the game. And good luck trying to catch Entei against Dakim, a run ending trainer without Entei being caught in the plan. Slugma also starts with Flamethrower. A 90 base power Fire type STAB move coming off of 70 base Sp. Atk is nothing to scoff at in this power level. Even if it's other stats are garbage... You can also use this thing in Miror B's fight to pivot Croconaw out of Ludicolo's grass moves, and bait water for it to come back in while the other pokemon cleans (personally Mantine is my go-to for this fight, pre-Hypered to take advantage of 95% crit on Shadow Rush and Swift Swim). For utility, it also has Yawn, a more reliable way to put mons to sleep and catch shadows unlike Skiploom's Sleep Powder with a nasty 75% accuracy. Towards mid to late game, getting rock typing at 38 (8 levels from when you get it at 30) definitely helps with pivoting when using Meganium. it resists flying, poison, bug, ice, and fire, all of Meganium's Weaknesses. Meganium also resists the Water and Ground moves that make it cry itself to sleep at night. It also gets some great moves like Body Slam, Fire Blast, and Earthquake as either TMs or tutor moves, while Rock Slide comes at 43 if you delay evo or 48. While it's niche, I would say for a Meganium partner this is something you should consider picking up in Pyrite.
Next one is Ariados in XD. Picking up the Spinarak at Cipher Lab is genuinely not a bad idea. If you're counting the six type specialists as separate encounters bc they are outside of the building and not using first encounter rules (Colo/XD are weird bc you have forced battles and that's how you catch mons), this mon is an option to consider. It gets Silver Powder as an item, and Signal Beam as a move. This hits hard relatively to what else you have access to once it has evolved into Ariados, and strong Bug STAB is genuinely very good in these games. Dig as coverage and Night Shade for whittling down Shadows reliably are both other tools that make this mon an interesting option over a Walrein with mediocre STAB options (and potential overlap with Vaporeon) or Yawning Swalot. You also have Sludge Bomb and Shadow Ball as available STAB or coverage. Would recommend giving it a try, even if it doesn't seem worth later on (personally I used it throughout my second playthrough)
Next up is Carnivine in Pokemon Conquest of all things. Its ability Levitate comes into actual use, as it allows the mon to traverse any terrain with ease, ignore most field effects, and climb cliffs to move much more efficiently than your other units. Vine Whip also covers an entire 3 tile row in front of you, and can rack up a lot of damage if positioned correctly which Levitate lends itself to. It has great stats to back that up as well. It's very useful throughout early game, and I wouldn't say it's the worst utility option later on either.
I'm glad Swanna and the monkeys were left off the actual list, but their bad rep isn't really well earned IMO. Swanna gets Surf, Dive, and Fly, and can pair that with Toxic (route 17 backtrack Surf TM) or Roost (level up)/Protect (Professor reward) to function as your HM user and a decent Toxic Staller if it needs to fight (Fly and Dive have synergy with racking up Toxic damage, as does Protect). Ducklett at least helps against Clay's Palpitoad and can revenge kill with access to Bubble Beam, Swanna also helps with Marshal. Though I would say that both trainers have a lot of Rock moves so you'll need to focus specific targets. They don't really struggle against any gym leader after you get them either. Completely free to just take at Drawbridge and manip a later encounter as well. The monkeys all are useful against the first BW gym, and get useful TMs for the other gyms like Rock Smash, Dig, Acrobatics, Shadow Claw, and others. Of course they're fully evolved by Burgh so everything but Simisage is useful there, who is instead a good pivot for Elesa's electric moves. I wouldn't say they're incredible or anything, but it's the best you're getting in Dreamyard bc who wants to try and roll for the shaking grass Musharna or waste it on an Audino after a rough gym fight without a monkey to help. B2W2 doesn't really have them available very often if at all, so not really worth talking about in those games.
Obligatory line here about Contrary Superpower and Leaf Storm on Lurantis, but it's really not anything special without Ability Patches which you're just not realistically getting most of the time.
Anyways hope this was somewhat uplifting for fans of these mons, if course if you think I'm wrong about something that's fair! Just personal experience, and sorry if you've seen me repeat myself ab any of these mons, I've talked about them before just bc I find niche ways pokemon can be useful somewhat interesting. Thanks!
Conquest being Ultra restrictive was to the benefit of a lot of mons. Poor Rhyperior though oh my god
The absolute beauty of the Magcargo in Hoenn bit... where the background music is **Pick of the Litter...**
I'd love to see any nuzlock with middle stage evolutions only.
"Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime. That's why I play pokemon on company time."
Words to live by😂😂
Now we need a nuzlocke with this list, where applicable of course.
Video idea: do a nuzlocke with only these pokemon!
Depending on how he does it, it would extremely easy or nearly impossible 😅
I know this is about the gen they are in, but I used Delibird to great effect in a wedlocke in Shield. His name is Happy and I was stuck with him since in a wedlocke I can't change pokemon unless I lose one. He is still alive and has done great things on his own. That is pretty situational though and results may vary.
Onix in sinnoh can be found in the mines before the first gym and makes a great counter for mars and Jupiters first battles (ik you were talking about gen 1 onix but the few seconds of sinnoh got my brain itching 😂)
He said "Unlike in sinnoh" right, I felt the same too, wow 🤣
JYNX MENTIONED 5:24
Our underrated ice queen ❄️✨
I was doing a White 2 nuzlocke one time, and I needed something useful against Elesa from Route 4. I was thinking to myself "with my luck, the first encounter will be a Minccino". Well, guess what happened: It was indeed a Minccino, I killed the Desert Resort encounter, and as well as the Yamask in Relic Castle.
Obviously, I wanted to sacrifice it to Elesa, however, it ended up winning me the battle.
Lmao i’ve been playing sea of stars a lot lately and got really confused when the music at 2:00 starts
just here to fact check the onix slander, you can capture him in oreburgh mine. Before the first gym. In all the sinnoh games
He acknowledged that, but he was specifically talking about Kanto
Honorable mention in Gen 3: Geodude.
Route 111 has those rocks that block you off to Lavaridge, and if you get unlucky/forget to repel up, you may be stuck with the rock instead of, like, Trapinch
50 seconds and no comments about a fall-off? the commenters fell off
I lost my last brain cells after reading your comment
Your brain really fell off
your fall-off fell off
no they just stopped acting mentally ill
I'm so happy
I'm so glad that Lurantis was brought up for gen 7. It was on my USUM nuzlocke team, and it was awful. I hardly found any point where it was a good idea to use it, and even when I did, it nearly died every time. It was literally 1 HP away from getting OH-KOd by psychic fangs from Faba's Bruxish. Its greatest contribution was being a sacrifice swap-in for Kahili, which I believe is the fate it deserved.
As a chatot lover, I'm glad that at least they're better than one other encounter hahaha
Chatot is adorable and I want one for real. I also want a pet Squawkabilly. They can be friends with my African Grey.
Onix: "I've gotta go honey, Flygon FG called me into work. Gotta pay that rent."
I didn’t know Galarian stunfisk existed. 😅
Wow bro 🤣
It's probably the most disturbing mon of the bunch considering it's based on a bear trap
I used Lurantis on my Moon playthrough! They sliced through (some) stuff like perfectly-cooked fish filets.
RBY Pidgey
Edit: if it was FRLG or LGPE, it'd definitely be Onix, but in RBY, even Onix is better than Pidgey as an encounter. Pidgey's only flying type level up move is Sky Attack, the best it gets from TM is the measly pre buff base 70 power Fly, and while stab gen 1 Hyper Beam is amazing and gen 1 Double Edge is fine (before ot was buffed from 100 hase power to 120 basepower), Pidgeot isn't gonna be getting much use out of it with how weak it is. At least Onix has the what if scenario of not encountering a Geodude or Rhyhorn, but there's like 14 normal types and not close to as many rock types in gen 1. And even if you don't want to invest TMs on Onix, which I agree with, you can send it out to wall and slowly widdle down a normal or electric type
I have a soft spot for Elgyem purely for its name
Whismer is actually kind of important in Treecko runs of Emerald as one of your only answers into Wattson's Magneton. Granted, you need to grind the Flamethrower TM, which sucks, but your other options are Geodude and Makuhita. You are guaranteed one of them, but can never get both unless you're using some kind of pinwheel clause, so make or break the backup check into Magneton is always worthwhile.
The ad transittion was good, but 11:48 was when I heartily cackled 😂
Now do a nuzlocke with those pokemon. Do it for the content!
I think the only pick I have issue with are G-Stunfisk but it's not because I think it's particularly good. It's just difficult to justify any lost opportunity cost in those games because, by seeing encounters in the overworld, you have almost total control over what Pokemon you get. I bring this up because, like you said, no encounter is truly useless, which really makes opportunity cost the most important metric. In Gen 9 every encounter is visible in the overworld, so it's all equal. However, in Gen 8 there are still random encounters in grass, which makes it difficult to see which encounters have the most opportunity cost.
On a precursory look, Milcery and G-Meowth on Route 4 stand out, along with Sandaconda on Route 6, and G-Ponyta in Glimwood. My personal choice would probably be G-Ponyta because I'm pretty sure every other encounter in Glimwood is more useful and unlike in other areas there are next to no overworld encounters (only the fixed Impidimp and Morgrem spawns).
As much as I adore Spinda with all my heart, you are so correct about how bad it is.
Really enjoy this video and the previous part. They're fun guides and get me to think a lot about different encounters.
I would like to put forth some alternatives:
Gen I: Ditto. Very few pokemon worth transforming into, the other Pokemon Mansion encounters are more useful for that point in the game, and it's a hard Pokemon to use
Gen II: Corsola. Only place you can catch it is the same place as Staryu
Gen III: Delcatty. What if we made Exploud but worse and in the same location, but twice as long to evolve one stage?
Gen IV: honestly can't compete with Carnivine, but I'd put forth Cherrim as also outclassed by almost every other Grass type and an infinitely worse Roserade
Gen V: Maractus. It eats up your Desert Resort encounter (every other one is somewhere from good to great), and isn't even a good answer for Clay. At least Beheeyem can deal with Plasma Grunts and Conkeldurr
Gen VI: Pangoro. Hard to guarantee you'll get two Dark types to evolve it, and you're missing out on a potential Intimidate Scraggy via horde manipulations
Gen IX: i was gonna say Tatsugiri where you're effectively playing as a Nasty Plot sweeper and miss out on Dondozo, but I can't argue with Wugtrio. Completely forgot about that poor sucker.
Again, I really have enjoyed these companion pieces and getting your added insight to various nuzlocke Pokemon. Keep up the good work
I'd say I'm surprised Crabominable was left out given that in OG Sun and Moon you evolve him at the very end of the game, and while he's pretty good offensively he's terrible defensively and quite slow, but Crabrawler is actually really solid in the early stages of Alola. Also while very out of the way, you can get him almost immediately if you wanted in Paldea due to the open world nature of the region and a stupid high attack stat and Ice/Fighting combo that early on is stupid good. Glaceon would probably be better if you really wanted to do such a thing with getting an early Ice Stone but point stands.
1% encounters that ruin your life are hilarious.
A nuzlocke with these encounters when?
Can't wait for the playthrough where these are the only encounters
I wonder how a flygon nuzlock of Pokemon mystery dungeon would go tbh.
That “hey shut up” to garchompfj was perfect comedic timing. Thank you flygon❤️
Free my boy Spinda!
He did nothing wrong. He's just drunk... ;^;
Always drunk* 😂
@Silverzzz1111 Feeling a little woozy there!
@@realfromtherealreality4148 😂😂😂
Carnivine is awful, but you're not gonna get him so it doesn't matter. in my opinion the worst Sinnoh encounter is a male Combee. Most honey tree encounters are pretty decent if not good, but this thing does absolutely nothing.
Did you eat your vegetables??
Would love to see a nuzlocke where you're limited to the pokemon you shit on the most. Onix, without ever evolving, unfeazant, spinda, lickitung, and sure. Why not. Garchomp (no TMs)
“Eh shut up” good advice
5:50 Based trumpet enjoyer.
I don't know how often you hear this, but your videos always make me smile. I hope you keep finding joy in games and content creation for years to come! Thank you
Two words: Male Combee
I can think of two other pokemon not mentioned that are worthy of consideration - Skitty in Gen 3 and Maractus in Gen 5. With only a 1% encounter rate on the only route in the game it appears on, you're very unlucky if you get it, because you could have gotten an Abra or a Nincada (future Shedinja) there instead. Maractus again is for opportunity cost. While I think you're right that losing out on Litwick is worse, getting a Maractus in the desert resort means you didn't get a Sandile, Dwebble, Scrafty or Darumaka there, all of which are fantastic encounters.
sorry to see my beloved pink robbie rotten bug on this list but I understand. she is a gentle creature, not built for war.
Now I want to see a trashlocke of gen 9 with the worst mon from each gen catchable in SV
IMO Luxray is on enough routes in DP/Pt/BDSP that if you get a Rivalry one, it's worth it to just kill it and reroll on the next route.
Weird thing to think about, but GarchompFJ might be my favourite "TH-camr's Evil Twin" bit just because he's not solely an antagonist or a strawman or a punchbag, sometimes he's just right and Flygon makes himself the unreasonable one. Keeps him fresh and entertaining instead of becoming annoying.
Your absolute vitriol in regards to Beheeyem is so funny to me
Sea of Stars OST ! Such a banger one ! Thank you for the video :)
Beatrice the Galarian Stunfisk was irreplaceable, you scoundrel. She would have gone to the Pokemon Championship or whatever it's called in Galar, but I got greedy and wanted a Dragapult. That Drakloak in Lake of Outrage nearly wiped us, but I decided (since it was my first Nuzlocke) that i would only count one death, and I needed Angela the Malamar for the League. Beatrice once lived a G-max move and killed with a Revenge (i forget against which gym). She was a goddamn national treasure, and I implore you to never speak of Galarian Stunfisk that way again.
So the clear path forward is to making “Pokémon but I can only use the worse encounter from each route,” and as a palate cleanser you can do a best Pokémon run
"especially if you play on Switch Mode, or overlevel, or use items or whatever"
So much vitriol in that one sentence, lol
My favorite thing about wugtrio is that it's the fastest pokemon that gets final gambit so there could potentially be a niche for it in competitive Pokemon but its HP is so low it can't trade with anything. It can't even die right.
Lurantis pick is sad but true. I used one in my (normal) UM playthrough and she was the one party member I was frustrated with because she was one stage for so long and not strong enough after. Died so many times.
my god flygon you should do more videos like this🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I liked it a lot, I mean everthing about it was great. The pacing, editing and you as a pokemon fan and pro nuzlocker made it super fun. Much love from Spain
As someone that recently used Galarian Stunfisk in a nuzlocke. I can tell you, that you are in fact missing out.
On having to restart your run because Kabu is going to sweep you for not getting a better Pokemon.
I used Exploud on my Emerald Nuzlocke.
I almost wiped on Brawly since I was Mud-Slapping as he bulked up, and then he Vital Throwed all my boys. Only Level 8 Whismur survived.
Exploud was my boy! Good offenses, and fast and bulky enough.
Exploud is the backup to your backup, _to your backup._ It's not good and is outclassed by pretty much everything, but if your other team members died, he can do the job somewhat fine.
Flygon : trashes Beheeyem
Me: *vibing to the Crisis City track in the background*
counter argument in alola: if you get Pyukumuku from one of the beaches it means you lost out on Starmie instead, which is obviously a pretty significant blow
It would be interesting how a nuzlocke would look like with those weaklings
Ya know what, Mr. Dr. FlygonHG, I have a post video question for you:
If fate would deem it so in this theoretical, which of the big stinkers you listed in this video would you prefer to have as an encounter in a nuzlocke, assuming they're all in the dex for this scenario? And which would you avoid like the plague? Let's also assume you encounter these mons at the start of midgame around the early 20s with two or three badges collected, to give them a chance at a (likely temporary) team slot.
Out of a group of the worst, there's still a best and worst among them, and I wanna here your choices for each spot and why.
I like these videos. Usually come back and watch again before my nuzlockes
I would love to see you tierlist main series games. I really enjoyed your B2W2 list from a few years back.
"Bruxfish is an absolutely unsettling and bizarre concept for a pokemon."
I dont know if flygon is talking about just it's looks or not but if he is he needs to look at the real animal that inspired it (triggerfish) because the pokemon isnt too far off of it.
I like how he said gen three musics the best than he uses 3 different songs from gen 4 during the ad break
I absolutely must agree with you on that fact about hoenn having the absolute best Pokemon music of all time