History of Finland (Animated)

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  • @BalkanOdyssey_
    @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    I apologize for the first soundtrack being noisy and as you may have noticed with headphones, being hearable only on one ear.
    I guess these are the mistakes where I will learn the most for future videos, so I hope you don't mind :)
    Also, If you are willing to support me with a small donation, you can do so on Patreon, it really means a lot since TH-cam monetization isn't very generous :)

    • @legoaatukallefilms3527
      @legoaatukallefilms3527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      You forgot lapland war

    • @stoneknight865
      @stoneknight865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should do estonnia

    • @Copratra
      @Copratra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not to mention that Simo Häyhä's record was not 'urban legend' as mentioned, but verified tally over the course of the wars... Thankfully there are several similar videos about mr. Häyhä and his exploits which remember to mention these things properly.

    • @TheMrTommo
      @TheMrTommo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Lapland war was the period after the continuation war, where Finnish were forced to kick the Germans out. It's excuseable, since you're a foreigner

    • @Pintless
      @Pintless 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@samiels5081 winter war not cold war

  • @evill01
    @evill01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1556

    Someone once said: Swedes we are not, Russians we do not want to become, let us therefore be Finns

    • @personofnoimportance5590
      @personofnoimportance5590 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      This

    • @Benderkekekekekeke
      @Benderkekekekekeke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      That would be Adolf Ivar Arwidsson.

    • @user-ce6iy2nw5o
      @user-ce6iy2nw5o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      that's told by a german - swedish guy and sounds like finns are a made up thing which is utterly retarded

    • @Dylan.j.camporotondo
      @Dylan.j.camporotondo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      In finish Ruotsalaisia Emme ole Venäläisiksi emme tule, anna meidän olla Suomalaisia.

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The Fennoman movement in a nutshell . . .

  • @adhdasdfroflxd123
    @adhdasdfroflxd123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +686

    ”The land of snow”
    *looks outside*
    Let me stop you right there

    • @ona_pro9874
      @ona_pro9874 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      😂

    • @hugopelkonen3249
      @hugopelkonen3249 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Right! this is cold crapland!🥶

    • @danu4763
      @danu4763 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      🅱️ERSE

    • @braindeaddipshit9801
      @braindeaddipshit9801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      **Silent sadness noice**

    • @toivo8200
      @toivo8200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There is very much snow look outside or not

  • @melvinherkel
    @melvinherkel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +788

    Finnish history is pretty much: tribes, Sweden, Russia, intependence

    • @Calaman228
      @Calaman228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Mosquitoes!? But its cold there how do you have them there? :D

    • @petrirantavalli859
      @petrirantavalli859 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      @@Calaman228 mosquitos breed at fall and hibernate during winter and hatch again when summer comes.

    • @casperk5164
      @casperk5164 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @Stefan Calenic dude do you really think it’s cold all the time? I can tell you like two years ago i wen’t too finland (don’t ask why. it’s a tradition) and there was like 2000-5000+ mosquitoes.

    • @user-ce6iy2nw5o
      @user-ce6iy2nw5o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      there's been tribal kindoms a thousand years before swedes and russians tho, all the history has been written by swedes

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-ce6iy2nw5o More like chiefdoms / petty kingdoms. And most of the earliest literary mentions seem to come from Novgorodian chronicles.

  • @kamielheeres8687
    @kamielheeres8687 4 ปีที่แล้ว +766

    Why is finland so brave?
    It's because they're the balls of the scandinavian peninsula.

    • @jussieronen3707
      @jussieronen3707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +216

      As a finn I approve this. Sweden is the great dick of Scandinavia.

    • @Sipu97
      @Sipu97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      *Fennoscandian. Finland is not part of Scandinavia...

    • @jorgosgustavus3183
      @jorgosgustavus3183 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Sipu97 they never said Finland was part of the Scandinavia?

    • @Sipu97
      @Sipu97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @Jorgos Gustavus To me the implication is clear because of the of-genitive. If it were stated as "balls to the Scandinavian peninsula" it would have a different tone.

    • @neponen3236
      @neponen3236 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This, this puts a smile in my face

  • @yharnamite7349
    @yharnamite7349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +504

    Serb from Bosnia talks about Finland (2020 colorized)

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Expect the unexpected

    • @lloyd.a
      @lloyd.a 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wut is this true?

    • @beaversforlife1298
      @beaversforlife1298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      my like is the 69'th nice

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@lloyd.a Very true

    • @danyagha5654
      @danyagha5654 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Serbian Mapping then I shall expect you to go over the history of Central Asia. That would truly be unexpected.

  • @Cikeb
    @Cikeb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    Ok, there's more. The reason why Lenin accepted Finnish independence in 1917 was partly because they had civil war all over the place in Russia, and partly because the Russian Bolsheviks hoped that their ideological partners in Finland would overthrow the newly declared independent government in a Finnish revolution. As you yourself state, the Reds received support from the Bolshevik during the civil war in 1918.
    You also missed the last part of the Finnish wars - The Lapland war 1944-45. This was fought against the German troops in Lapland, to drive them out instead of letting Soviet troops into the country to do it. Germany was militarily responsible for northern Finnish Lapland 1941-44.

    • @timoterava7108
      @timoterava7108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The Russian bolsheviks didn't only hope - they practically made sure that the war in Finland started in January 1918 - within a month of the "agreement" with the Russian bolsheviks and the legal government of Finland.
      Without the Russian bolsheviks there wouldn't have been any war in Finland.

    • @Cikeb
      @Cikeb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@timoterava7108 Semantics, but yeah.

    • @timoterava7108
      @timoterava7108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Cikeb Not really. When I read your text I got the impression, that the Russian bolsheviks were merely "helping" the Finnish Reds and "hoping" for the best (for them).
      Perhaps (hopefully) you didn't mean it quite like that, because in reality it was Russia and the Russian bolsheviks all along. As I wrote, there wouldn't have been any war in Finland without Lenin & co.
      The Russian bolsheviks agitated, initiated, armed and (partly) lead the Finnish Reds. The Russian bolshevik soldiers also fought along the Finnish Reds, as well as started the atrocities against the civilians.
      The Finnish Reds were mostly just ignorant and simple sheep, which were used for the soviet ideology.

    • @romaliop
      @romaliop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@timoterava7108 Lenin was urging the Finnish Social Democratic Party to take up arms long before the war even started. They refused many times while trying to achieve their political goals through the democratic process. The war begun only after the whites conspired with the temporary Russian Government to prevent a SDP led declaration of independence and to break up the Finnish parliament where SDP at the time had an absolute majority.
      The idea that the civil war was a (proxy) war against the Russian Bolsheviks is a later fabrication with few ties to reality. The White Guard was backed by the Germans and was even considering handing over Finland to the German empire after their victory and installing a German noble as the king. Only after Germany lost the war were they forced to go for real independence and democracy as well as make real concessions to the working class.
      The truth is the first victim of war and most people even now are ignorant and simple sheep, this is nothing new. It is also evident in the way you still take pride in your ancestors killing their own kind and keep propagating their retroactive justifications for this. The war was a great tragedy to the Finnish people and the saddest part is that it all could have been avoided had it not been for people like you.

    • @hannavirtanen7006
      @hannavirtanen7006 ปีที่แล้ว

      Finland has always been the brighest jewel In the Tzar's crown.

  • @Robbini0
    @Robbini0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +381

    Helsinki wasn't really the capitol during swedish reign, either at all, or barely for a short time, I believe it was Russia that made it the capitol, because it was closer to Russia.
    White Death isn't really an urban legend. And he's either known to have killed 500+ with his rifle and an additional 200 with his suomi submachinegun, and most of them are pretty much confirmed.

    • @timoterava7108
      @timoterava7108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      There was no "capitol" of Finland during the Swedish era, but Turku was always the city of Finnish administration. Helsinki became the capitol of the Grand Duchy in 1812.
      I'm pretty sure that the total of 500+ includes also the ones with the SMG, which were estimated, not counted. This still doesn't diminish Simo's achievements - at least not in my books.

    • @Luthies
      @Luthies 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@timoterava7108 Tbh under Swedish reign there was no "Finnish" administration. Swedes kept the territory purposefully divided into separate zones to prevent the identity of a united people forming. Grand Duchy of Finland under the Russian Empire was the first time the entire territory of Finland was administered as one.

    • @timoterava7108
      @timoterava7108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Luthies True. Turku was still the see of the bishop of Finland, who for a long time was the highest authority. Turku also was the "capital" of the Grand Duchy of Finland (during Johan III), which covered most of Finland.

    • @jonathankinnunen4229
      @jonathankinnunen4229 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@timoterava7108 he had estimated 542 kills according to a researcher in war museum. And his unit's captain credited him with 259 confirmed kills by sniper rifle and an equal number of kills by SMG, total of 505 confirmed kills

    • @jonathankinnunen4229
      @jonathankinnunen4229 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      capital of finland* capitol on kongressitalo

  • @idiotandco.1750
    @idiotandco.1750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +329

    My left ear really enjoyed that soundtrack

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Yep noticed only after i uploaded... Was very frustrsting..

    • @FrozenPanzer
      @FrozenPanzer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Too and i am finnish person

    • @akioja1112
      @akioja1112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i just want my ear to explode

    • @천세한-y6b
      @천세한-y6b 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My right ear realy enjoying classic

    • @northstar2621
      @northstar2621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank God I'm not the only one. Thought my earbuds finally broke

  • @aleskz1964
    @aleskz1964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +373

    When serbian mapping from Bosnia living in germany usually making videos explaining balkan history talks about finland: *visible confusion*

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Expect the unexpected

    • @Just_Alex5
      @Just_Alex5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      *Lol i know you from discord.*

    • @aleskz1964
      @aleskz1964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Just_Alex5 ye Ik

    • @panzer_waffle4150
      @panzer_waffle4150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So many of us in bosnia, damn

    • @LukasBlack2003
      @LukasBlack2003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BalkanOdyssey_ Wait, you live in Germany? Kannst du auch Deutsch? Ich bin nämlich aus Österreich.

  • @simohayho8622
    @simohayho8622 4 ปีที่แล้ว +344

    Finnish history: "Invasion by Sweden, war, war, war, Invasion by Russians, war, war, war"

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Thank god, you came around. Can you please snipe our national debt and aging population.

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also submachineguning them
      is good enough

    • @lottatoikkanen6940
      @lottatoikkanen6940 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      simo häyhä 😎

    • @11sjv
      @11sjv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ur name is not right its simo häyhä

    • @simohayho8622
      @simohayho8622 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@11sjv your name should be hot dirt block not bl0ck

  • @Scouppi
    @Scouppi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Suomi mainittu TORILLA TAVATAAN! Alo brate kakosi!

    • @luki2530
      @luki2530 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sulla on vaan yks like scouppi aika ihmeellistä👍😂

    • @samppajamppa
      @samppajamppa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Moi scouppi

    • @kuramoottori1416
      @kuramoottori1416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Joku paikka missä scouppia kaikki ei tunne

    • @rinicolous9800
      @rinicolous9800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Moi scouppi

    • @masapetrisaatana
      @masapetrisaatana 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Säki tääl:D

  • @numans.254
    @numans.254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Finland is a brave nation. Respect.

  • @Lurkki91
    @Lurkki91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I'm finnish and proud of it! My grandpa was in the continuation war and made through it alive.
    He never spoke or told about his experiences voluntarily, i'm sure he was traumatized. He carried grenade-sharps in is body for the rest of his life.
    I am so thankful for their sacrifices.

  • @hyp3r459
    @hyp3r459 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    You could've used Jean Sibelius for the background music

    • @nakkilama
      @nakkilama 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that would have been pretty cool

    • @akioja1112
      @akioja1112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      but what if jean sibelius copyright claimed him

    • @hyp3r459
      @hyp3r459 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@akioja1112 the copyright actually goes out in 3 years

  • @anonymousperson8475
    @anonymousperson8475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    Fun fact: Britain against Finland is the only war between two completely democratic countries in history!

    • @willed6264
      @willed6264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Hm? Wdym Finland alone has never been in war with UK. It was cus we were with nazis :D

    • @simohayho8622
      @simohayho8622 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Has Finland actually ever been in war with Britain?

    • @joonas1923
      @joonas1923 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Finland has fought British only during the Crimean war, when French and British ships bombed several Finnish fortresses. There was war declared between these two during ww2, but actually the Brits wanted to help Finland during winter war, before the war was declared during Continuation war.

    • @anonymousperson8475
      @anonymousperson8475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      joonas19 As Finland was not an independent country, I don’t think it counts. But yes, no fighting actually occured during WW2 (or the Brits bombed German airfields in Finland?)

    • @anonymousperson8475
      @anonymousperson8475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Wille D: While yes, the reason for the declaration of war was our alliance with the nazis, the UK declared war on us independently (on 6 December no less, rude). But yes, the reason was our ”alliance” with Germany.

  • @pomeranianproductions647
    @pomeranianproductions647 4 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    My favorite country in the world besides Germany of course. I already was in Helsinki and the city is a beauty.

    • @ninaakari5181
      @ninaakari5181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @Nationalistic FINN Helsinki is as real Finland as any other part of the country is. You hillbilly boys prefer there are no cities at all for you are scared of noice and people.

    • @OltskuMP
      @OltskuMP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@ninaakari5181 Tbh Helsinki is kinda ass. Every other city is better in Finland imo. Finland is kinda ugly country tho.

    • @timoterava7108
      @timoterava7108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Helsinki is as much Finland as New York is America (the USA) or Brussels Belgium - not really that much.
      In Finland it is common to speak of "the Helsinki bubble". Both the people inside and outside of the city see Helsinki as different.
      E.g. half of the immigrants (and especially most of the illegal ones) live in Helsinki area. The Greens party ("melons"...) of Finland practically only exists in there. The rest of the Finns still take protecting the environment seriously mind,, but they still want/need to live with the nature instead of only talking about it.
      One can find many other dividing examples. Of course Helsinki is the capital of Finland and many essential institutions are located there, but if you only visit Helsinki, you haven't really seen Finland.
      Helsinki is the exception, not the example, of Finland or the Finns.

    • @ninaakari5181
      @ninaakari5181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@timoterava7108 I don't think people get confused and mix cities for country side. Every country has cities and country side outside of the city, so I am pretty sure someone who says "I like Helsinki" does not think the whole Finland is just Helsinki spread up all over borders. They simply like the city. It is not some kind of 0 sum game where liking Helsinki is disliking the country side. Also me living in Helsinki area have never ever heard someone dislike any other part of Finland, and there are huge diversity of people living in the capital area. So called green-leftists are minority (although loud one) here and majority of people are just normal, hard working & family oriented good fellows.

    • @timoterava7108
      @timoterava7108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ninaakari5181 I didn't write anything about liking or disliking - just that Helsinki (area) is not typical Finland.

  • @Cikeb
    @Cikeb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Oh, and you got that revolt of 1595 completely loopsided I'm sorry to say. The so called "cudgel" or "club war" was a part of a bigger internal struggle in the Swedish realm, which included Poland-Lithuania. The war the Finnish peasents fought was not against the central power in Stockholm, but against the elite in Finland (based in Turku, Åbo in Swedish) that had sided with king Sigismund of Poland-Lithuania, son of the Swedish king Johan III and his Polish wife Katarina Jagellonica. As the son of the former king, Sigismund became the king of Sweden, but his uncle Charles (Karl in Swedish) would later oust him and become King Charles IX. It was Charles who gave his support to the peasents to fight against the elite in Finland, that had sided with Sigismund in the conflict. You see, in those late medieval days the peasents usually sought the protection of the king, from the nobles who usually administered the regions and collected the taxes. The rebels were not rebelling against Sweden you see. In fact, the peasents were as far as they knew subjects of the Swedish king. There was not a sense of national Finnish identity yet, especially not in the rural class. Not in Sweden either. Only the smaller, higher classes of society might have thought about such things.
    It seems you've fallen for outdated interpretations of history that were usual in those older history books, that were too often influenced by national-romaticism, and has a narrative which quite frankly is anachronistic, when it tries to explain people's motivations in those early days.

    • @Cikeb
      @Cikeb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @rigegs Small correction. The concept of citizenship did not exist in the monarchy of those days. Everybody was a subject to the king/queen. Loyalty was expected to the monarch, not a people or a country. That's one major difference that people tend to forget about when comparing this day to yesterday.

    • @emmamemma4162
      @emmamemma4162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for explaining this so clearly!

    • @1alecci
      @1alecci 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Cikeb From what I've understood, the peasants of Finland had the right to send their deputies to attend the Swedish parliament. This differs from occupied areas that did not have this right and therefore can be considered as some kind of "citizenship".

    • @Cikeb
      @Cikeb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@1alecci It sure does. It's because the area today known as Finland was NOT occupied for over 500 years. It was an integral part of the Swedish realm, not a "colony". As you probably know, the only Finland back in the medieval days was the area around Turku. An area called "Finland Proper" nowadays. It was one of several Swedish provinces all around the realm. The other provinces were Tavastia, Karelia, Ostrobothnia, Nyland, Savonia and Satakunta. They were no different than the provinces in what is today known as Sweden.

    • @LynxSouth
      @LynxSouth 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Cikeb Was the amount of royal investment in these now-Finnish provinces equal to expenditures on equivalent areas in what is now (still) Sweden? Did the Swedish crown spend as much on roads and harbors, fortifications, combatting outlawry, administering justice, ameliorating famines and epidemics, etc.? I ask because I've read that, however the government felt about the geographical territory, the Finnish-speaking peoples and areas received only a fraction of the positive attention and development funds that Swedish-speaking areas got.

  • @finnishdoomguy
    @finnishdoomguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Respect from Finland.

    • @finnishdoomguy
      @finnishdoomguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sina Fazel It's not a finnish name, so I don't know.
      The reason why I call myself "Finn" is because I took it out of Finnish.
      My actual finnish name is Kimi.

    • @finnishdoomguy
      @finnishdoomguy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Sina Fazel What about it?

  • @ifinnishboy4126
    @ifinnishboy4126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    Finland is so good that there is a saying like
    Being born in finland is like winning the lottery

    • @FrozenPanzer
      @FrozenPanzer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Yes it is and i just won borning lottery

    • @trumpjongun8831
      @trumpjongun8831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Today it's like winning on the slot machine.
      For the immigrants from islam countries it's like winning from a lottery when they get here.

    • @КИБАРКУБИЦА-с4д
      @КИБАРКУБИЦА-с4д 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Remember Miss Helsinki 2017? :)

    • @nicolas__788
      @nicolas__788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      guess i won the lottery then

    • @spacepizzer
      @spacepizzer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Guess i'm lucky then

  • @siisi2965
    @siisi2965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The reformation and the translation of the bible gave the Finnish language a proper written form for the first time
    Also Turku used to be the capital before Russia took over and moved the capital to Helsinki

  • @cassu6
    @cassu6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Fun fact: Finland was the first country after Soviet Union to receive MIG21s, even before other Warsaw pact countries.
    Even funnier fact: the pilots sent to train in Russia saw a nuclear test, and one day the people in the facility they were at had disappeared. The Cuban missile crisis had started.

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It was either that we would bought them from the Soviets or they would have come themselves to monitor our airspace. They wanted Leningrad and Murmansk vicinities to have modern aircover. I guess, It was also a way for the Soviets to know, would we enforce our neutrality when needed, I guess. You don't intercept western spyplanes with few DeHavilland Vampires and Folland Gnats.
      Interesting interview from a Finnish MiG-21 pilot
      th-cam.com/video/RaPQYCvVN6k/w-d-xo.html

    • @Vamutus
      @Vamutus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Those MiG21 were beautiful and were cutting edge aerospace tech in 60-70s. Too bad they are obsolete now, glad i got to see them fly

  • @jebbus132
    @jebbus132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    One war you forgot to mention was the small part Finland had in the Russian civil war, where Finland through volunteers and "off the books" operations tried to at the very least achieve independence for the many people groups of Finno-ugric decent, if not annex the areas where they lived outright. These military operations where collectively called The Kinship Wars here in Finland. Now those are so obscure that many outside of Finland don't even know of them and are remembered by few. We don't really like to talk about it. The only really successful operation was that of our volunteer forces send to Estonia to help them achieve independence. The force was called the Sons of the Nordic.

    • @hung-upear2659
      @hung-upear2659 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We thank the Finns forever for that!

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's because Estonians were really keen on the idea of Independence and fought really hard ( not only againts the Russian reds but their former German masters too ), but East and White Karelians really missed the train in Tartu Peace Treaty of 1920 and were betrayed by the USSR of their autonomy.

    • @jebbus132
      @jebbus132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And now that I have had more time to think another war not mentioned was the Finnish rifle battalion of the Russian Imperial guard sent to fight along side with the Russians in the Crimean war as Finland was a grand duchy under Russia at the time. Most notably the battle of Gorni Dubnik.

  • @JanneRanta
    @JanneRanta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Vikings weren't that much of thing in finland thought. It was more like vikings raided here and finns fought against them.

    • @paavoilves5416
      @paavoilves5416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You're kinda right. Finns were quite static during the viking age, fighting vikings that raided Finnish coastlines. But in the 1200's after Scandinavia became christian etc, Finns raided Scandinavians and burned Swedish cities and did trade with countries as far away as the Byzantine Empire.

    • @hammyhamsterisagangster6630
      @hammyhamsterisagangster6630 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@paavoilves5416 Wait we Finns did that? wow

  • @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296
    @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Thank you! This was a very well made video but it would have been cool if you had talked about me, the king of Finland.

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Thank you man, I'm sorry but I realy had to oversimplify many parts of the history in order to pack everything into under 15mins

    • @Asptuber
      @Asptuber 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, if you'd had stuck with Väinö instead of that misch-masch of a name...

    • @skidi4218
      @skidi4218 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Almost king*
      He declined the offer himself after seeing how bad the war was going for Germany, but it's still cool to think that we were that close to becoming a kingdom.

    • @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296
      @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@skidi4218 Yes. Technically I wasn't a king but the the official name of Finland for few months was "Kingdom of Finland".

    • @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296
      @justsomeghostwithinterneta7296 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @syntikkamies I changed My channel name

  • @Raccoon_A
    @Raccoon_A 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Makes my head hurt when so much crucial history has to be left out to make this video fit under 16 mins.

    • @henri9109
      @henri9109 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which parts of history would you consider important to mention as well?

    • @SilverGamingFI
      @SilverGamingFI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@henri9109 thw Lapland war for example

    • @iAmPesukone
      @iAmPesukone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@SilverGamingFI And everything between wars. The history of Finland, like that of pretty much any country, is full of interesting twists and turns not related to warfare or even foreign politics.

    • @taistelusammakko5088
      @taistelusammakko5088 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@henri9109 muinaiskuninkaat?

  • @hung-upear2659
    @hung-upear2659 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Good video, but Estonia is Finland's neighbour too :(. Estonia's history is similar to Finland's before and after middle ages (middle ages was weird thing anyways). We also were one of the last pagans in Europe (officialy it got christianised 1229) and got independence too after WWI, but unlike Finns, we lost our independence in 1940. Still, through the ages, we have kept close ties with the Finns and consider them as friends always. Love from Estonia!

    • @hung-upear2659
      @hung-upear2659 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Mika Hamari tõsi

    • @hohoo4067
      @hohoo4067 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      its not neibhbour theres the ocean between finland and estonia

    • @Battlebox0
      @Battlebox0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Kiitos halvasta viinasta🙏

    • @PunteriVR
      @PunteriVR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You're not my friend, you're my brother my friend!

    • @hung-upear2659
      @hung-upear2659 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@hohoo4067 ocean you say... It is a gulf...

  • @Luthies
    @Luthies 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The number given here for casualties during the "Great Wrath" is based on old research. Newer research puts the number closer to 20000 dead and over 20000 taken to slavery. This doesn't count the number of people who died to starvation due to Russian troops taking most of the food either.

  • @lemontank5533
    @lemontank5533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    It would be nice to see the history of the vikings

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Could be a very interesting video idea. Thank you!

    • @Minecratify
      @Minecratify 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BalkanOdyssey_ if you do! Take up that Viking was a thing people did. Most people was farmers and traders

    • @oliverludwig6148
      @oliverludwig6148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Minecratify that doesn't mean, that viking is a thing people "did". I viking, you viking, he vikings?

    • @epeli0035
      @epeli0035 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mun kaveri on sukua viikingeille XD

    • @TheParez
      @TheParez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Polish Hero Witold Pilecki Wikipedia source, the best source.

  • @DanskuRL
    @DanskuRL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honestly im genuinely surprised as a finnish guy about the quality of this video. I even learned new stuff. All the animations were great, your voice is amazing for this and this couldnt get any better. Keep up the great content

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Im extremely glad that you liked the video and that you find it educational and well-made. It actually means hella lot and motivates me. Thank you!

  • @eelipekkala121
    @eelipekkala121 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Im from Finland, and i can confirm that Finland had 10 tanks on start of the winter war. Not 32 tanks, as this video tells.

    • @heba4021
      @heba4021 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im from uruguay and i know that you are gay

  • @piippopaska6467
    @piippopaska6467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    There is one Finnish saying that still pops up in some times. ''Sweden will fight to the last Finn'' Meaning to us Finnish
    People that Sweden will tax shit out off you, and use you'r People to fight on Swedish wars like an meat shield.

    • @cassu6
      @cassu6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Blåbärspaj _ I find it quite interesting how Sweden stopped warring after they lost Finland.

    • @piippopaska6467
      @piippopaska6467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@blabarspaj_3381 that was then and now is now and future is mystery .at now
      Finnish army and Swedish army are doing some great cooperation in trying to maintain Nordic way of living and their independence. that i would like to see future as well
      th-cam.com/video/L8rGyWSC0O4/w-d-xo.html

    • @grateug6887
      @grateug6887 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Trapped In A Bagel We took Norway after we lost you though

    • @iirowiik2855
      @iirowiik2855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@finnishwehraboo8377 😆😆

    • @timoterava7108
      @timoterava7108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@grateug6887" You" didn't "take" Norway - it was given. Google it.

  • @laiskapyykki
    @laiskapyykki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Reason why Finland won the winter war is: The soviet soldiers were actually mostly Ukranians, dragged from their homes to fight a war they had no part in. They had no sufficient winter gear, no camouflage in the snow(brown/green jackets and pants) and the winter was the coldest in 50 years. People literally froze to death. Finns were used to those conditions. Still that being said, finns really fought remarkably concidering the power against them.

    • @Cocakone
      @Cocakone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Finland lost the winter war

    • @mystergamer0750
      @mystergamer0750 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes but actualy No

    • @Cocakone
      @Cocakone 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mystergamer0750 actually yes. Even though Stalin didn't get what he wanted, Finland still lost the war

    • @williandarosa5485
      @williandarosa5485 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They lost, after 3 months of fighting supplies were running low and with a new experient soviet commander, the soviets were finally breaking through. So they surrendered and ceded lands.

    • @cinderellaandstepsisters
      @cinderellaandstepsisters 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Cocakone Finland retained it's independence and freedom. It is a victory.

  • @metalontarget1422
    @metalontarget1422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video of recent Finnish history, no bigger potash. The thing is, history is as it is written and the winner writes history. In Finland, as in many other countries, there has been systematic and well-organized conversion and extermination and killing (by the Swedes for a long time1250-1809), both in ancient culture and in indigenous religion. In Finland, this destruction and distortion has created a black hole in Finnish prehistory, which is mentioned in its brevity in two words before 1250 = Finnish prehistory (that's it). In Finland, almost everything is always made of wood, as the Vigings did. Everything has been easier to destroy, and in the Finnish climate, wooden buildings will not survive without constant maintenance. However, there are many references to ancient explorers' writings throughout Europe in ancient Finland and there are dozens of stone castle ruins and fortress islands in Finland, telling us that something existed before the Swedish rule, even before the Kingdom of Sweden. All the ruins are officially unexplored. According to written history, there had never been anything but wild people in Finland before the Swedish rule. So apparently all the ruins have been dropped from the sky by the ancient UFOs ...🥴 Luckily in Finland people have preserved a lot of information from the past and fortunately explorers from outside Finland have taken notes by writing. The Russian emperor gave Finland autonomy and later independence as you presented in the video. The Karelian Finland (formerly Livonian where Livonians lived and spoke Livonian) is nowadays mostly part of Russia, part of Finland. Karelia on the Russian side is the Autonomous Republic of Karelia. In conclusion, I could say that the official written history of Finland dates from 1809. However, if you find it interesting to look at the earlier official history of Finland before 1809, remember that it is written by Swedes and everything is a meaningful lie. Yes, yes the people know🤓
    Ps.
    Map images do not properly open up historical boundary changes. Here you can see quite well how the borders have lived fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomen_aluemuutokset The pictures of the link also include the border areas of Great-Finland.

  • @tikkurilaboi6893
    @tikkurilaboi6893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Nice, never expected this video to be made lol. As a finn, i approve of this. I myself would have talked about how Russia tried to russify Finland during the two periods of oppression, but other than that, great video!

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you mate, It really means a lot to know and see Finns themselves approving the video and supporting me!

    • @AttilaKattila
      @AttilaKattila 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BalkanOdyssey_ I wished you covered the details of the medieval Swedish (and Finnish) estate-based society, perhaps some economic aspects of Finland and the Finnish people at different times, a little more about the happenings and events during the Swedish rule, early Finnish independence and World War 2, if the video was 30 minutes long for example, but I can understand that it's even more work and would perhaps be too long of a video for people to watch. Dunno if people are interested to listen for 30 minutes about Finnish history. However, I think this was an excellent crash course in Finnish history. Good job!

  • @Foolsworn
    @Foolsworn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Glad to have found this channel! High quality and well versed.

  • @divine2962
    @divine2962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love the Eu4 Music used in the video. And the video was really good and something you really should be proud of. Good job, Serbian!

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you man, it really means a lot 😊

  • @Pataassa
    @Pataassa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Funerals for war heroes of the Winter War are still held in Finland even today. Deliveries are still coming regularly. Russia last handed over 40 winter war heroes found on the ground to Finland yesterday, on November 4, 2023. Or their remains. In the next few days, there will be funerals for 40 different families in Finland again, when these heroes will be escorted to their final resting place with the defense forces in the home country. History is not at all as far away as it may seem. Finnish history is still a part of Finns' lives, in many different ways.

  • @Cikeb
    @Cikeb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    There is no geographic logic in the term Scandinavia. Denmark isn't part of the Scandinavian peninsula either, while actually a part of northern Finland is. It is, like "the Nordic countries", a political and historical construct (compare the Baltics, Western Europe or Benelux), which has grown less important as a transnational cooperation dimension compared to "the Nordics"-dimension. As good as all cooperation happens in a Nordic context nowadays.
    Also, the early "proto-Finnic cultures" described here might not have spoken a Finnic language, but the genetic heritage is probably real. A lot of mixing has happened over the thousands of years. Although isolated compared to the rest of Europe, people did arrive in what was to become Finland too. Borrowed words from proto-germanic (way before Swedish became a factor) and the proto-baltic languages tell of this connection.

    • @timoterava7108
      @timoterava7108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      People often confuse the geographic and political/cultural terms. Here is the summary:
      Scandinavian peninsula (geographic)
      - Norway
      - Sweden,
      - the North-Western tip of Finland
      Fennoscandia (geographic)
      - Norway
      - Sweden
      - Finland
      - East Karelia (Russia)
      - the Kola Peninsula (Russia)
      Scandinavia (cultural)
      - Norway
      - Sweden
      - Denmark
      The Nordic countries/the Nordics (cultural, political)
      - Norway
      - Sweden
      - Denmark
      - Finland
      - Iceland

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@timoterava7108 Fennoscandinavia is also a geological area. We share a distinct bedrock from the rest of the Europe, formed mostly of granite and gneiss.

  • @Banaaniapina692
    @Banaaniapina692 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Thank you for talking about the greater wrath. It is really important part of history for some regions (like mine). It doesnt get mentioned much prob due to the lack of translations to english. Whole villages were killed and enslaved by the Russians. Dark times.

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      One could say that during Greater wrath the Finnish general population first painfully realized that they actually weren't the same country with the western half of the realm.

  • @sebastiantiainen2749
    @sebastiantiainen2749 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The club war wasn't a Finnish uprising, it was a larger wave of peasant uprisings. Also Sweden didn't conquer Finland because there was no Finland to conquer, and the crusades that went to Finland were crusades against Novgorod trying to spread into what today is Finland.
    Österland was as much of a part of Sweden as Svealand, Norrland and Götaland. There were Finns in the swedish parliament and the third university of the Swedish Empire was founded in Finland, the Royal Academy of Turku.
    Österland was a buffer between Russia and Sweden but that was the unfortunate fact of being the border land. Attacks on Österland was still an attack on Sweden. Finns were not exploited in war, they were still citizens of the Swedish empire and were called up to arms as any other citizen.
    The Finnish national identity came about in the 1800's when Nationalism began to spread across Europe. The awakening was first about building Finland up as a nation for the Finns but later became more a counter against the Russian empire, trying to suppress Finns and make Finland an integrated part of the Russian empire.
    What I'm trying to say is that it's unfortunate that the notion of Sweden as an oppressor of Finland still lives on. We were a part of Sweden, not a colony, not a sovereign country in a union with Sweden as some like to claim. We were as much of a part of Sweden as the 19 different regions are a part of Finland today.

    • @SouverG
      @SouverG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Everything else is right in here and I want to underline in beginning that at that time the cultural influence of Sweden was really important to Österland. But they were exploited by crown, Finnlands dukes and swedish and german nobility. Crown branded Österlands people as primitive and simple, but that is right that Sweden saw Österlanden and it's provinces as part of their core lands. Also they heavily taxed "Finns", but over 50% of the taxes went back to mainland Sweden. Dukes helped crown to enlist Finns before swedish in their wars and use them as meat shield for better trained swedish forces (not to say that your people didn't see success in those wars either). Also native Österland nobility in the beginning moved a side from their places of power to give way to mainland and german nobility. And I'll put this again in the end. I think that swedish sphere of influence was the best choices of spheres that were close that time for evolving from backland area to somethin it is today.

    • @TheSpekkel1
      @TheSpekkel1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Samalla logiikalla, isoa osaa Afrikan tulevista siirtokunnistakaan ei sanasta sanaan valloitettu, kun siellä oli vain suhteellisen vähälukuisia ryhmittymiä ihmisiä, jotka pitivät tiettyjä alueita koteinaan. Tulipa vain mieleen.

    • @0mgskillz96
      @0mgskillz96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sebastian Tiainen so just because there wasnt a country here makes it okay to enforce ones rules and cultures upon them through violence? And no matter how you try to justify the crusades still wont make it right, the US were in Vietnam to stop the spread of communism but ended up killing thousands of civilians and infecting the place with agent orange and other chemicals, its well documented that swedes, norwegians, danes and even germans all participated into these violent trips of raiding and conquering to finland which only later got the name ”the northern crusades” so they could save face, the indigenous people lost their rights to fish and farm (ancient moisio farms and fishing grounds of the coastlines immediately transferred to the crown) on the land they had inhabited for thousands of years so of course battling ensued (for example in Tavastia, Ostrobothnia, Satakunta, Eura etc.), in Ostrobothnia the swedes even brought real criminals in to Finland who had no interest in converting people but to war with the finns, a lot of people escaped from Tavastia and Satakunta to the north to get away from these convertings and to save their culture, after the last crusade in Karelia, the full on colonization and systematic destroying of our culture began, all our ancient rituals and gods were associated with the devil so through shame finns could be integrated (Perkele was changed from ancient god of thunder to the devil, coincidence?), practicing of ancient religions was made illegal in the 1600s but through smuggling/trafficking of pagan books these traditions lived on secretly, also in 1622 the law was passed that if a finn didnt want to speak swedish or go to church, he could be killed, where is the equality?
      I agree we were an important piece of land to the crown and a big factor in Sweden becoming a superpower, since they got a huge chunk of their resources (taxation) and soldiers from here, but the swedish elite never really cared about the people of Finland, finns were seen as expendables and were thrown as meatshields on to the battlefield during wartimes, battles against novgorod ensued on finnish grounds with big portions of the armies on both sides being finns, also Swedish kings and nobles never visited Finland and the crown inheriter Aadolf Fredrik admitted in the year 1746 that ”we were only swedens storage and buffer zone”, and since the beginning our language and culture was deemed inferior to those of swedish and german origin, swedish/germanic racial pseudosciences (such as phrenology) and eugenics targeted finns and other finno-ugrics heavily which affected our image to the rest of the world negatively (swedish racial studies about the ”superior germanic race” were later on copied by Adolf Hitler but originally they were used to justify the exploitation of ”inferior groups” such as the finno-ugrics, also the first institute of racial biology was in Sweden 1922), even up to the era of russian rule when Svecomans were trying to stop finnish independence in fear of losing their status in society, their political party RKP (which is still in parliament) used to spread racist rhetoric about us to undermine us, (also even after our independence and during WW2, our governments ”ruotsalaispykälä/swedish segment” favored finnish-swedes over those karelian refugees who lost their homes in the war), so becoming apart of swedish government back then was impossible unless you were a finnish-swede (descendant of swedish crusaders who settled on the finnish coast)
      And yes its true, we didnt have a ”finnish” identity but all these different tribes that inhabited finland and that later on became the finnish people had identities thats thousands of years older than the swedes themselves, before they were destroyed..

    • @AS-Stardust
      @AS-Stardust 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oli ne Venäläiset parempia kuitenkin.

    • @Vamutus
      @Vamutus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Typical fennomanic garbage.. under swedish rule our land would still be exploited. Your arguments are on par with the colonial idea of "White mans burden".

  • @JuanGarcia-qk3gm
    @JuanGarcia-qk3gm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Finnish landscape is one of the most striking in Europe.Finland is 80% covered with thick forest and thousands of lakes.Finland is not as mountainous as its closest neighbors, Norway, Sweden and Russia,but it is stunningly beautiful especially in the Autumn.

  • @petrirajaniemi4370
    @petrirajaniemi4370 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As a Finn I must admit, this was by far the most objective, unbiased and accurate presentation on Finnish history by a foreigner I have ever seen. Wow! Impressed! I could not have done a better job myself - I'll show this to my kids as well! Keep it up! Subscribing now :-)

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm extremely glad that you liked the video that much and that you think I did a good job :)

  • @aamo3960
    @aamo3960 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video was really interesting and as a finn i gotta praise your pronounciation of Finnish words👍🏻. Also fun fact, during the Civil war, my hometown of Seinäjoki acted as the main military and political hub of the white guard from 27.1.1918 to late March same year.
    PS: You earned a subscription

  • @kyoofyardale
    @kyoofyardale 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Other people: In Finland are cold
    People from Finland: No? Here isnt cold!?

  • @clashoclan3371
    @clashoclan3371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    At least the Soviets acknowledged Finland's existence.

    • @E5rael
      @E5rael 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eemil.894 Just a reference to the "Finland doesn't exist" memes. :)

    • @Lawh
      @Lawh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Soviets dont exist

  • @lehtokurppa7824
    @lehtokurppa7824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The war of Finland's real motive was the land embargo enforced by Napoleon against the Brits. All but the Swedes agreed to it, so Napoleon ordered his then ally Russia to attack Sweden to force it to stop the trade to Britain. Russia did this, but decided to take the entirety of Finland, since Russia knew the alliance with Napoleon was just temporary, and if Napoleon managed to convince Sweden to join it's attack of Russia, Finland would serve as a buffer for Russia.

    • @samuelskogqvist5565
      @samuelskogqvist5565 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This youtuber got so many things wrong and it's annoying that people just takes what he says for granted.

  • @ristoh1420
    @ristoh1420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video overall! I'd love to have seen more about the 1500s and Gustav the first, he truly was an instrumental part in shaping the path Sweden and especially Finland were heading towards, with the laws, protestant faith and a lot of other stuff. Also you really should've mentioned the first and second oppression periods, 1st being from 1899 to 1905 and 1908 to 1917 which lead to a lot of national spirit and will to leave the empire. Lastly as a side note you could've mentioned some of the great people of the 19th century Finland since that period is regarded as the golden age of Finnish art and literature and a lot of the nationalistic spirit was built up during that period.
    Nothing that was in the video pops out at me as wrong, but I still would've loved to see these things added. Anyway, love that you made the video, thank you a lot!

  • @bjorn7100
    @bjorn7100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    03:56 I'm pretty sure it's wrong to call it Swedish occupation. The complete land, or in the early days some parts of, what is the sovereign state of Finland today was simply part of Sweden from appr. 1150 to 1809. The country was called Sweden and it included these lands, it was not Sweden-Finland (sort of like Denmark-Norway) and there was no political union of any two states called Sweden and Finland etc., it was simply Sweden (although the kingdom of course included Finnish people). If anything Sweden colonised Finland in the early days and made it part of the country, but it wasn't a military/belligerent occupation.
    Finland have been occupied by Russia during this time (as part of Sweden) for brief periods, and Åland was occupied briefly by UK and France during the Crimean war etc.

    • @bjorn7100
      @bjorn7100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@NäköKulmaPulma Well, Finnish-speaking areas were part of the Swedish Empire so it makes sense that they played their part. I would like to see your source for "mostly", because I don't think that's true. On wikipedia it says slightly less than half for the 30 years war, six Swedish companies and four Finnish. The Empire relied on many foreign soldiers, which might mean from places not part of Sweden unlike Finland, such as a lot of Germans (although some small northern parts of Germany were Swedish at the time).
      By the way, no need to "thank" a regular Swede like me. A regular Swede in those days had more in common with regular Finnish-speaking people than with a Swedish king. Guess who wanted the wars, the regular folks or a few kings and nobility men?

  • @heikkisallinen9012
    @heikkisallinen9012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a Finnish history nerd ( for what it's worth ) ,I have to say : Well done !
    The humour here is spot on and there is no blatant over-simplifications
    I could spot no factual errors ( edit : except for the club war ) and pretty much all the Finnish history with it's most defining moments and developement as an independent state was covered really well.
    Perhaps there could have been a mention of Scandinavian Bronze age ( c. 1700-500 BC ) and more details about the developement of Finnish society under Russian rule ( 1812-1917 ) and the role of the Fennoman movement in shaping the country. And maybe also about the political turmoil and painful political reconciliations of the Interwar years ( 1918 - 1939 ).
    But that's actually all worth of nit-picking about your video here. And I like to nit-pick a lot, when it comes to history.
    Excellent work ! Liked and subscribed !
    and велики поздрав to you ! ( You are Serbian, right ? )

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you very much mate, it means really a lot to get confirmation from a Finn himself and especially from someone who is interested in his country's history. Really motivates me, I'll give my best in the future too 😊

    • @bolle9810
      @bolle9810 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Club War was quite factually wrong.

  • @Sipu97
    @Sipu97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Was about to get very triggered and ready to let you know when Finland was called a Scandinavian country, but that solved itself.

  • @miauni6803
    @miauni6803 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    The music is on point 💯

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Wonder who helped with the choiceee 😇

    • @kujalanville
      @kujalanville 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I see someone has been playing EU4 :D

  • @polskieuirb6456
    @polskieuirb6456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Request: Next Do the History of Poland please
    Следеће, молим вас, историју Пољске.
    Następnie proszę o historię Polski. :)

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Will be on my list :)

    • @polskieuirb6456
      @polskieuirb6456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Serbian Mapping Hvala, Dzieki, Thank you mate

  • @banonhd5680
    @banonhd5680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you might have forgotten one thing: finns school system is so much better than us school systems. 1: we have healthy school food 2: we have free school food. 3: people have anought food and money. so yeah

    • @HelperUTTP
      @HelperUTTP 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True

  • @stefanvlad8472
    @stefanvlad8472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was recently thinking about your posts and now this... Thanks daddy

    • @sgp7931
      @sgp7931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's a bit...

    • @stefanvlad8472
      @stefanvlad8472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sgp7931 yes

  • @gayfrog6188
    @gayfrog6188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    i am from finland and i really didn't know that uk decleared war against us. i believe we never learned about that in school at least i don't remember and history was one of my favorite subjects specially ww2

    • @gayfrog6188
      @gayfrog6188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sense8151 oon kuunnellu historia on yks lempi aineista ja todistuksessa on aina ollu 10 mutta ei mitää muistikuvaa että meille ois siitä kerrottu

    • @saakawithaG
      @saakawithaG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Meille kerrottiin jo yläasteella ja lukiossakin moneen otteeseen. Ehkä opet ei kokeneet sitä tärkeäksi kun mitään virallisia sotatoimia ei käyty.

    • @ZanzaPlayz
      @ZanzaPlayz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Nationalistic FINN no siis ku oltii natsien kaa ni uk tietenki julisti sodan suomee vastaa

  • @pietarisorsa153
    @pietarisorsa153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fun fact : During WW2 Finland was first friendly with the axis powers who helped them during the continuation war and the they allied with the allied forces to push the axis powers out of lapland.

    • @greeneyedwolfen9866
      @greeneyedwolfen9866 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      When you think about it. We technicly stabed them in the back. Witch would explain why they burned the houses on Lapland down. Before they where pushed back to Norway.

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Finland's political manouvering still spared the country from the catastrophy that befell on Eastern Europe.

    • @jarskil8862
      @jarskil8862 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We werent allied with Soviets.
      We were forced to attack Germany after defeat in Continuation war.

    • @timoterava7108
      @timoterava7108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You forgot the Winter War, during which the soviets were allied with Germany.

  • @deusgiff
    @deusgiff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting choice of country to cover. I personally love this country and wish to visit. Baltic States shared a lot throughout the years together with Finland and Estonia. Great content, keep it up!

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks mate, I always found Finland very mesmerising and enigmatic, so I thought people ought to know more about this gem

    • @madsbuhris
      @madsbuhris 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really! The Baltic states have a different history beeing vassal state of German whereof Finland shared some 800 years with Sweden and had to mingle with the other Scandinavian countries in unions and wars.

  • @LivingIronicallyinEurope
    @LivingIronicallyinEurope 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Definitely worth the wait :D

  • @Martin-oi9ln
    @Martin-oi9ln 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm rly glad this channel is back, just got back from binging on the discontinued AHOE from 2 years ago.

  • @slavicmapping1438
    @slavicmapping1438 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow amazing you don't make much videos so I sometimes forget that I subscribe u lol.
    Dark Souls Countryballs next?

  • @E5rael
    @E5rael 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the nice video! The audiovisuals were top notch! Having played only EU3 and not EU4, I was thinking to myself how the music sounded kind of familiar. And sure enough, it was because it was composed by the same Andreas Waldetoft. Great music!
    A few errors here and there but they've been brought up in other comments already. I was kind of surprised you didn't mention Finland joining the EU in 1995, considering how the last era you addressed was 1945-2020. Oh, and you definitely should've mentioned Nokia! ;D And perhaps the recession that began in 2008, from which we're still kind of recovering, but that wouldn't have ended the video in a very high note, now would it? xD

  • @lmjp1623
    @lmjp1623 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In years 1100-1200 finns were last pagans of the nordic countries, they were simply asked by crusaders ''sword or cross'' And made ''Perkele'' ( God of Thunder) calling name for the devil.

    • @sebastiantiainen2749
      @sebastiantiainen2749 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Most became Christians by choice, not because they were forced. The crusades into Finland weren't crusades against Finns but against Novgorod trying to spread orthodoxy from the east.

    • @alainerookkitsunev5605
      @alainerookkitsunev5605 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sebastiantiainen2749 Hahahaahahhahah!!! Christians by choice and peace! What a load of crap. Maybe do some of your own research and not just trust what your pastor tells you...

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sebastiantiainen2749 Tavastians didn't go down easy during the second crusade tho.

    • @samuelskogqvist5565
      @samuelskogqvist5565 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can we all just agree that christianity destroyed both swedish and finnish cultures and traditions?

  • @Volume_Halome
    @Volume_Halome 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great to see someone paying attention to fact that we went through a civil war.

  • @paskapaavo
    @paskapaavo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm finnish, but when watched video and noticed how much there has been war and fighting in Finland history. 😯 Even after so many years finally got independence there started civil war. 😕

  • @Aalju
    @Aalju 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For southern Finland the winter has been pretty bad, but for north its been snowier than normal

  • @turskanperkele188
    @turskanperkele188 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Little-known fact: the earliest writings about Finland go way more Back than The Swedish crusades. In old Norwegian writings Finland is mentioned multiple times, for example about the ancient Finnish kings. It's debatable wether these point to tribes or more or less organized prehistoric society, though it's certain Finland has way richer and deeper history than commonly known. According to some writings, it is believed that the Nordic ancient Kings actually descend from these Finnish kings. Sadly this history is not taught in schools or aknowleged by some of the history people at all, but it still doesn't change the fact that there is A deep uncovered history of us which deserves to be revealed.

    • @samuelskogqvist5565
      @samuelskogqvist5565 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bruh you finns literally try to claim that everything swedish is finnish, from military marches to the rulers of proto sweden

    • @Chokwik
      @Chokwik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@samuelskogqvist5565 wouln't claim anything we have no reason for.. i have no idea what marches you mentioned, don't really care about them, but those ancestries are from the old sagas that your ancestors and their cousins have written down.. we finns are not taught any of that, only Church history from conquerors' point of view

    • @calbackk
      @calbackk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting. What are these "Norwegian writings " you refer to?

    • @simo8191
      @simo8191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@calbackk he is propably talkin about saxo grammaticus and snorri sturlusson's sagas(Fundinn Noregr)atleast and then there were third, it was saga by bardr lumitunturinharju about fornjótr or something.
      Old myths...

    • @turskanperkele188
      @turskanperkele188 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simo8191 Exactly

  • @filthycasualgaming9715
    @filthycasualgaming9715 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You forgot to mention the War of Lapland :)

    • @tmas47
      @tmas47 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Part of Continuation War

    • @Pnaraasi94
      @Pnaraasi94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tmas47 But since it was against Germany and not the Soviets it deserves a mention. After all, it makes Finland the only country to successfully fight off both the Soviet Union and Germany during WWII (correct me if I'm wrong).

  • @GeographyWorld
    @GeographyWorld 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting video. Hello from a new subscriber from Ireland!

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much for the support and for being here :)

  • @somaliandictatorship8372
    @somaliandictatorship8372 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is fantastic, please make more videos like this. You, my good sir, have earned a new subscriber and member of your community, you deserved it.

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thsnk you very much man, stay tuned 😊

  • @ievgeni.fesenko5636
    @ievgeni.fesenko5636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting! Thank you for sharing! Greetings from Ukraine 🇺🇦🇪🇺

  • @stefandusan9629
    @stefandusan9629 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see your channel is still doing well

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you man, thank you for sticking around 😊

  • @TheCroatianMapper
    @TheCroatianMapper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Finland doesn't exist
    The Finnish Gulf:
    I'm bout to end this man's whole career

    • @Olilego
      @Olilego 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, I mean, it doesnt

    • @markogaming1996
      @markogaming1996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fake ale of al you 🇷🇸🇺🇲🇷🇺🇨🇦🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸

    • @madsbuhris
      @madsbuhris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Finish the gulf or the Finnish gulf?

    • @ifinnishboy4126
      @ifinnishboy4126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FINLAND EXISTS

    • @alyegzi3094
      @alyegzi3094 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      PERKELE!!!
      Finland exists

  • @TheThingInMySink
    @TheThingInMySink 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To clarify a bit on the cudgel war, the peasants did actually have firearms, they even had a few cannons on at least one occasion, also the war wasn't so much a Finnish rebellion against Sweden but a war born out of mistreatment of the local peasantry by soldiers employed by local nobility, who even in peace time were allowed to collect camp dues, a practice that goes back a long way in Europe. Duke Charles took advantage of the situation and agitated the peasantry who were already riled up by the mistreatment by the local men at arms and they then revolted. Klaus Fleming was another cause, he'd kept an army in Finland in what's called castle camp, which again means the men are usually billeted in local households and the peasantry have to essentially tend to their needs, and what that meant could vary depending on whether the people billeted in your house were abusive twats or decent folk. Needless to say in either case the peasantry would have still not been exactly pleased with the situation as they'd have to provide for the soldiers at a time in which war had already taken a toll on them.

  • @ketsuppi
    @ketsuppi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    7:50 Helsinki wasn’t yhe capitol that time it had only few hundred people living there. Turku was the capitol of the finland that time. Helsinki became the capital of finland when finland was given to russia in 1809.

  • @blackbird7744
    @blackbird7744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love Finnland,support from Germany🇩🇪❤🇫🇮

  • @dalecarlia208
    @dalecarlia208 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was wonderfully executed. You should do more videos like this for nations that like Finland, aren’t very well known

  • @thanksforthe57subs66
    @thanksforthe57subs66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are we looking at a future series possibly..? Awesome video btw!

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If this video does well, why not?

    • @thanksforthe57subs66
      @thanksforthe57subs66 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Serbian Mapping We're all looking forward to it!

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thanksforthe57subs66 Stay tuned ;)

  • @speededupclip4870
    @speededupclip4870 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    you forgot our 3 day Monachry

  • @fcole90
    @fcole90 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job, so far one of the most complete and detailed history of Finland 🇫🇮 videos I've ever seen 😃 please, next do Sweden 🇸🇪 😊 (plus a suggestion, lower the volume of the background music, sometimes it covers your voice) 😉

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much for the support mate, I'm glad you liked it 😊
      And thank you for the suggestion, I'll make sure to perfect that nezt time

  • @PetriW
    @PetriW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Why you didnt talk About Hakkapeliitta?

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Had to oversimplify and pack everything into 15mins

    • @sebastiantiainen2749
      @sebastiantiainen2749 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Because the Hakkapeliittas were just a Swedish cavalry unit in the 1600's who were elevated to the almost mythical level during the 1800's as a part of the Finnish nationalistic awakening. I'm not saying that they weren't brave and good soldier but they were ultimately just a small part of the Swedish war machine.

  • @lovepeace9727
    @lovepeace9727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mate, independence of Finland started in 1917 when Bolsheviks (commies) came to power in Russian Empire and asked one question to all parts of Empire ''do you guys wanna stay or go'' ?
    You gave this info in a stange way...sounded like people of Finland actually said ''fuck you Russia'' and self declared their independence.
    Finland became independent only cuz Lenin gave them the choice. That's why Finland was officially recognized by government of RSFSR (USSR from 1922).
    Commies had all needed power to destroy and enslave Finland, but Lenin and leninists bolsheviks were not like Stalin and stalinist bolshevik. If not death of Lenin in 1922, the Winter War probably could have never happened.

    • @lovepeace9727
      @lovepeace9727 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, during Finnish Civil war, ''whites'' and ''reds'' were supported by russians.
      Reds were getting help from USSR and whites were getting great help from remaining soldiers and even generals of collapsed Russian Empire who were as badass as it gets.
      Don't forget who was a president of Finland after those times - Carl Mannerheim, aka. the guy who was born on lands of Russian Empire, knew russian language, was living in
      St. Petersburg and Moscow for huge part of his life, was General of Russian army and etc.

  • @vjollila96
    @vjollila96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Says heavy "heavy metal" shows Lordi. Is'nt that kinda tame for heavy metal? They are more like hard rock to me which is fine

    • @VonArmagedda
      @VonArmagedda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Still a fine band

    • @kowalski6413
      @kowalski6413 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes but still a great band

  • @Suomalia2100
    @Suomalia2100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought that the first mention of Finns was by the Roman historian Cornelius Tacitus in 98 AD. He described people the Romans called "Fenni".
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenni

  • @torodensson1331
    @torodensson1331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Finnish never rebelled against Sweden it was just small peasant rebellions against high taxes, and Swedish peasants (living in Sweden) also did the same thing a few times.

    • @omppusolttu5799
      @omppusolttu5799 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well the club war did happen but it was over in one battle.

    • @tenhoandersson
      @tenhoandersson 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@omppusolttu5799 yeah but it wasn't finland rebelling against sweden rather peasants against the king.
      Not sure about the facts just clarifying his point

    • @omppusolttu5799
      @omppusolttu5799 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tenhoandersson ...
      That literaly is a revolution IN finland AGANIST the leader of sweden.

  • @lazylaje
    @lazylaje 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When a 15 minute youtube video teaches more than three 45 minute classes

  • @oaksheart2222
    @oaksheart2222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Why there is people being like " pffft, Finland doesnt exist XDDD"
    ehm, ehm..
    anteeksi mitä?

    • @cassu6
      @cassu6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tyhmä meemi vaan

    • @rikupv
      @rikupv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Semmonen tyhäm meemi vaan

    • @ennimet
      @ennimet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *a n t e e k s i k u i n k a?*

    • @holoholopainen1627
      @holoholopainen1627 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Ice Age !

    • @Cracknutter22
      @Cracknutter22 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because it doesn't exist, just a big lie

  • @Jokakutihut1
    @Jokakutihut1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was very well made. keep the videos coming

  • @tedjohansson129
    @tedjohansson129 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The last war sweden fought was with norway, arter they refused swedish rule after the napolianic wars. Not with russia. Why Wuld you say that?

  • @yl95
    @yl95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Informative inspiring video

  • @ErwinHistory
    @ErwinHistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video misses the Finno-Korean Hyperwar.

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fucc

    • @ghfjhdfh
      @ghfjhdfh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never actually happened and Finland is a country and not the Baltic Sea, I know it's a meme but i will probably never get over it.

  • @housti
    @housti 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Serbian Mapping. Thank you!

  • @sepep6288
    @sepep6288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Finnland wasn't Viking. Vikings=Denmark/Sweden/Norway/Rus

    • @sepep6288
      @sepep6288 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Draken Kievan Rus was Viking before being Slav

    • @cinderellaandstepsisters
      @cinderellaandstepsisters 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome to Rosala viking center in Hiittinen in Finland.

    • @КИБАРКУБИЦА-с4д
      @КИБАРКУБИЦА-с4д 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There were no Finnish Vikings, but there were Russes Vikings. Check out Viking expansion map.
      upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/50/Viking_Expansion.svg/1920px-Viking_Expansion.svg.png
      Map showing area of Scandinavian settlement in the eighth (dark red), ninth (red), tenth (orange) centuries. Yellow denotes areas conquered by the Normans in the 11th century. Green denotes areas subjected to Viking raids.

    • @heikkisallinen9012
      @heikkisallinen9012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There was no remarkable Viking colonization in Finland, but there certainly was Finnish Vikings.

    • @КИБАРКУБИЦА-с4д
      @КИБАРКУБИЦА-с4д 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@heikkisallinen9012 what famous finnish vikings do you know?

  • @DiscipleOfTheMostHigh
    @DiscipleOfTheMostHigh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of course they are the happiest nation on earth! They got the best educational system - no homework ever and you get a freaking sword along with your diploma at graduation! What's not to love!? :D Bloody heck, after everything that poor people have been through, they've definitely earned their happy ratings! :)
    And they got one of the best snacks ever - SALMIAKKI!
    Oh Finland ...... I'm glad you do, in fact, exist! :)

  • @jussieronen3707
    @jussieronen3707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You could have talked about the russification attempts of 1989-1917. That helps you understand why Finland was so desperate to pull away from Russia.

  • @karkkipri9186
    @karkkipri9186 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You forgot Lapland War between Germany and Finland, but really nice video👍

  • @valen23arg
    @valen23arg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love these types of vids
    Wish u did one about my country, but that will never happen lol

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm gla you like them :)
      What country is it?

    • @valen23arg
      @valen23arg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BalkanOdyssey_ argentina🇦🇷

    • @leoliver4288
      @leoliver4288 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What a gay country

    • @valen23arg
      @valen23arg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leoliver4288 are you british?

    • @jonzka98
      @jonzka98 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leoliver4288 oikees oot

  • @Ravtaku
    @Ravtaku 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greetings from Finland 🇫🇮

  • @TheNismo777
    @TheNismo777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Lol how cute.. vikings had barely any business here, they try to take over with bad failure ^^

    • @greeneyedwolfen9866
      @greeneyedwolfen9866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I remember reading an old story of a viking meeting a finish shaman. The viking went depper from the coast to the woods and heard wierd chanting. He followed the chanting and saw an old man just standing in the middle of nowhere. The viking asked the old man for directions for the coast. He got lost. But that old man kept chanting and waved his hands that the trees themselfs started moving like sentient creatures. In fear the viking ran trough the woods and found himself back to his ship and mates on the coast. He swoor after that he would never set his foot on those woods ever again.
      I don't know where it was from but it was over 10 years ago. The reason i remember it, is becouse it was a "spooky" tale or myth of this land. And i have hard time finding horror stories of Finland.

    • @TheNismo777
      @TheNismo777 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@greeneyedwolfen9866 Back in the days vikings were believing that we had a power of darkness etc. I'm not allowed to confirm that, but nature is for sure our thing. 👀

    • @sebastiantiainen2749
      @sebastiantiainen2749 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They didn't come to Finland because they had no reason to.

    • @0mgskillz96
      @0mgskillz96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sebastian Tiainen “no reason to” but they explored and traveled all across europe and the world looking for land and people to exploit, including neighboring russia and baltic countries, but they for ”some reason” decided to leave this geographically identical land right next to them alone.. or maybe there was something keeping them away, the land of ancient shamanistic tribes with magical powers and fierce warrior giants who kept intruders at bay, little do finns know that even the vikings themselves wrote down about the kings of finland/kvenland from which all vikings descend from, and see the level of respect they had towards us in icelandic sagas where they spoke most highly about us while disrespecting the swedes as inferior people

    • @VonArmagedda
      @VonArmagedda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@0mgskillz96 I remember someone saying that the norse believed the finns worshipped evil spirits

  • @mirthkos
    @mirthkos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nobody else noticed that rice hat? Finns weren't considered "white" before the WW2. In the USA finns were called "china swedes","roundheads" and "finlander" (latter was as heavy racial slur back in a day, as n-word). Big reason for the hate was the fact that finns were active in labour unions. Mine owners wrote petition to Ellis Island officials to not let finns immigrate because of that. Things changed, for it was benefical to Allies of WW2 (especially to Russia) to highlight the connection between Finland and Germany. Finns also took distance to "communist activities" because they hated the Soviet Union, meaning less activism in labour unions in the US.

    • @BalkanOdyssey_
      @BalkanOdyssey_  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait... What?

    • @mirthkos
      @mirthkos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BalkanOdyssey_ That was my reaction too, when I found out. I thought you knew since there was that rice hat. Finns not being white was (is) based on the thought that finns are "mongols" (or "china swedes") . There's still people (especially in Sweden) who think that.

    • @kalleharjuhahto1503
      @kalleharjuhahto1503 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mirthkos Jätkä sä oot tainnu olla tosi kännis kun kommentoit!
      Dude you must have been really drunk when you commented!

    • @mirthkos
      @mirthkos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Snowstorm read the articles I linked under my comment a year ago.