If I use SAMe for depression, what do I need for nutritional balance?

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  • Question: If I use SAMe for depression, what do I need for nutritional balance?
    Nutrition wise, I think the most important thing would be to make sure that you have an adequate glycine status. And you know, I don't know what your background is in terms of other issues, but the glycine buffer system, which is how you buffer excess methyl groups, which is what you would have if you take a large bolus of SAMe.
    Other nutritional concern would be having enough molybdenum. Generally, you're gonna have enough with 100 mcg a day. If you're eating liver once a week, you probably have enough, but there's no harm in taking like 500 mcg a day, so not really a problem if you want to supplement there just to make sure it's not an issue.
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  • @Summerlove21
    @Summerlove21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you for talking about this. I’ve been on 400mg of Sam-e for many years now. L-theanine in the evening. I’ve tried going off but I slip into a depression every time. Super scary but good to know that what I’m taking is working for me.

  • @bernardojunqueira2392
    @bernardojunqueira2392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow, that's one of the videos you gotta replay a few times in order to digest and absorb all the content (at least I do ;). Great one. Thank you!

  • @drumgrandpa
    @drumgrandpa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    No darkness lasts forever. And even there, there are stars. Ursula K. Le Guin (The Farthest Shore)

  • @jcresmond1653
    @jcresmond1653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was literally thinking this as i scrolled down and BAM! There you go. Thanks for the upload!

  • @KKing55
    @KKing55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank You from the bottom of my Heart and the Top of my Heart~ you have helped me more with this 6 demential chess game than any other MTHFR doc has ~ hard for this old broken brain~!!!

  • @FreeDom-dh5mf
    @FreeDom-dh5mf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just was tested for the MTHFR gene and I do have the defect. I just started taking methyfolate and higher doses of methylcobalamin. I take glutathione now too because I know I have detox issues. which is also part of the MTHFR thing. I am concerned about the homocysteine imbalance possibility with SAM-e as I know I have a lot of inflammation already and heart issues and liver issues too. Went off my paroxetine and wellbutrin months ago and am trying to balance things with the vitamins. I already tend to be hyper a lot of times, even when I get depressed. So I dont want to risk more of that. I may try what I'm doing for now and see maybe later if I want to try SAM-e. This was a very helpful video even 3 years after it was made. Thank you.

  • @KGBronx
    @KGBronx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This guys advice is amazing! ❤️ from Adelaide 🇦🇺

  • @lorimav
    @lorimav 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I took SAMe once only 200mg. It made me extremely nervous, I felt I truly understood what anxiety was for the first time. None of the amino acids, nor St. John's wort, had that effect. PQQ and B6 helps me.

    • @ceptember.
      @ceptember. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You might be an overmethylator

  • @kjr8660
    @kjr8660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’m so happy he cut the shish with covid and got back to the point 😀

  • @heliaalves9062
    @heliaalves9062 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Glycine mechanism checked as pointed out in the video, plus B12, folate and molybdenum.

  • @Nardzz019
    @Nardzz019 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How dangerous is the negative feed back on methylation cycle from elevated SAH

  • @catarunverma7525
    @catarunverma7525 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Chris, i have mthfr a1298c heterozygous mutation. i took sam e just for 5 times, 200 mg over 15 days. I felt mood swings, anger and depression. My homocysteine increased. I have a very poor stress tolerance(may be comt). Last year when i took SAM e, i took it with methylated b vitamins. At that time my homocysteine did not go up and i did not get depression. I just had anxiety as side effects.
    Can you please guide me ?
    I am totally confused.
    I never had such depression my entire life. I always had poor stress response, anxiety and mild ocd symptoms along with low mood.
    Please help.

  • @Seeker2400
    @Seeker2400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I took dapsone and have had depression and nerve pain ever since ? I don’t know why

  • @bigpoppapenguin4219
    @bigpoppapenguin4219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What if SAM-e is ineffective for depression? Would could we explore instead? Glycine buffer doesn’t help, as it just makes me feel more wired and anxious. It never helped for sleep and in fact gave me insomnia and also induced a panic attack at some point.
    Creatine, TMG, sarcosine, methylfolate, methyl b12, methyl bs, hell all methyl donors for that matter make me feel off or worse at some point. Large doses of niacin also doesn’t really help. Magnesium no help. God help us.

    • @jcresmond1653
      @jcresmond1653 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What about 5HTP? Have you tried that?

    • @marekqwerty8963
      @marekqwerty8963 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      hi did you find any solution??? How you doing ?

    • @АндрейЕрмилов-х8п
      @АндрейЕрмилов-х8п 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe you are not really absorbing a lot of these minerals nutrients. Anyway start with probiotics and consider supplements after, make kefir and food high in b vitamins. (Kefir would be obv the best) but also high quality animal protein, non fort nutritional yeast, molasses. Magnesium, sodium ascorbate, vit d k2 in high quantities, zinc molybdenum methylfolate that would be the most important imo

    • @АндрейЕрмилов-х8п
      @АндрейЕрмилов-х8п 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For a lot if people they have problems just from the bad food choices even mental problems. Try elimination diet. Eat nothing but kefir

  • @Tina-ht9ff
    @Tina-ht9ff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It it ok to take same on & off ..

  • @deletedsap-med
    @deletedsap-med 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow
    Amazing info

  • @brandongordon5684
    @brandongordon5684 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can it be taken with an ssri?

    • @chrismasterjohn
      @chrismasterjohn  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Talk to your doctor. Gotta be careful.

  • @sandyhobo2053
    @sandyhobo2053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whats better for depression, samie or 5htp?

    • @Summerlove21
      @Summerlove21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I personally prefer Sam-ev400mg daily every morning and LTheanine at night. I’ve tried going off and ever time I go off I slip into that dark hole 😩

    • @sandyhobo2053
      @sandyhobo2053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Summerlove21 im in a hole right now. Im taking 200 mg of 5htp. I just hate going back on the doctors pills.i have 400 mg of samie.but i never tried ltheanine

    • @bigpoppapenguin4219
      @bigpoppapenguin4219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you use 5-htp, try using l-tyrosine as well with it to balance our dopamine/norepinephrine.

    • @sandyhobo2053
      @sandyhobo2053 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bigpoppapenguin4219 thank you.

    • @Summerlove21
      @Summerlove21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sandyhobo2053 sorry to hear that. L Theanine is expensive, but for me, totally worth it. I take 400mg of that each evening before bed. I tried going off just that at one rime and after a week I felt like shit for about two weeks so I decided to go back on and it took a week for me to feel the same again. Sam-e every morning too.

  • @missnucci26
    @missnucci26 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    r/woosh 🤯

  • @tineeazyabuvall151
    @tineeazyabuvall151 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I take glycine and ears start ringing like a bell. Noooooo way

  • @danman5857
    @danman5857 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anyone on here used Sam-e for insomnia ? I know that's not it's primary purpose, but just checking. If you have used Sam-e for insomnia did it help?