Anti-Choice Activist Gives BONKERS Answer When Asked About A 10-yr-old Who Got An Abortion
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.ค. 2022
- Anti-choice activist Catherine Glenn Foster of the Americans United for Life left Rep. Eric Swalwell stunned after claiming that abortions performed on rape victims who are minors aren’t actually receiving an abortion. Rep. Swalwell was having none of it and saw right through Foster’s attempt to back out of the corner she pushed herself into. Cenk Uygur, Jessica Burbank, and Mark Thompson discuss on The Young Turks. Watch LIVE weekdays 6-8 pm ET. th-cam.com/users/theyoungturkslive
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"Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) was taken aback by a witness’ response insisting that abortions performed on rape victims who are minors aren’t actually abortions.
During Thursday’s House Judiciary Committee hearing on the impact of the Supreme Court striking down a constitutional right to abortion, Swalwell questioned Catherine Glenn Foster of the anti-abortion group Americans United for Life.
The congressman alluded to a now infamous case of a pregnant 10-year-old rape victim in Ohio who traveled to Indiana in order to obtain an abortion. Ohio has banned abortion when a fetal heartbeat can be detected, which is around six weeks of pregnancy. Although the state attorney general has claimed she could have obtained the abortion in Ohio, the law itself doesn’t corroborate this.
“Do you think a 10-year-old should choose to carry a baby?” Swalwell asked.
“I believe it would probably impact her life and so therefore, it would fall under any exception and would not be an abortion,” Foster replied."
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Could a 10 yr old choose to carry?
She's 10, she can not consent.
Could she choose to carry it with her parents?
She didn't choose, her parents chose.
The question itself is flawed, a 10 yr old has no rights, but somehow her fetus does.
Because a pregnant 10 year old is FEMALE, so CONservatives think she should have NO RIGHTS.
I'm not a doctor, but I REALLY think that a 10 year old becoming pregnant DOES pose danger to her health.
No shit
You are correct which is why she never even had to leave Ohio
The applicable law allows abortions after a fetal heartbeat is detected:
“to prevent the death of the pregnant woman” or
“to prevent a serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman”
@@CS-nt8fk and yet she was denied an abortion for some asinine reason and had to travel out of state. Honestly, considering Ohio thought you could re-implant an ectopic pregnancy, I wouldn’t be surprised if they never looked into the fact that a 10 year old would actually die from a pregnancy
Thank you for calling them ANTI CHOICE instead of pro life. I am from Columb OH and its true. Many more and now yall will hear about it.
Even I as a European know that republikkkans are NOT pro life given the fact they don’t want universal healthcare and gun regulation
They do not care about human life at all AT ALL!
The mere fact that ADULTS in the United States of America actually have to ask questions of child rape and wether she should have an abortion and not a pure logical, super simple answer that dwells into basic human rights is beyond sicking.
It's hard to believe only a small minority of America thinks like this and almost by trickery an overwhelming majority must now endure their oppressive ignorance until we can manage to get past them! And WE WILL get past them!
These dinosaur people can get Fkd and go away.
The first time she said it wasn't abortion I thought she messed up her words...
Then she doubled down...
It's fecking INSANE!!!!
OMG!! These bastards!!! My great niece is 9, she’s a baby, still playing with dolls and going to dance camp!! Doesn’t matter what to them!shouldn’t be any question for that poor child!
Conservative mindset: I have the freedom to live a happy and successful life, but I don't want you to have a happy or successful life as well since you might compete with me if we're equal in society!
*FACTS!*
Spot on Jesse!
ding ding ding. you hit the target.
Of course they’re saying this shit, because they don’t actually care about protecting kids. If they did, they wouldn’t force a 10 year old rape victim to carry the baby, especially when she’s more likely to die from child birth
2-3 times more likely to die as a matter of fact. (this is a conservative estimate. In studies I've seen it's up to 5)
Republicans never care about anything but there wallets!! VOTE 💙
Young age is rape. There is no consent when a person is a child.
REMINDER: The Bible: 1) supports abortion on demand, 2) gives long and detailed instructions for performing abortions, and 3) specifies that inducing a miscarriage by assault is NOT murder, and should ONLY be punished by a fine.
heads up but there excuse to you WILL be, that's old testament. they will claim they go buy new test but i know they secretly prefer old. this way they can attack gay's ect. it's a means to a end...and they hate sex period.
as a average bible reader: that's not how I interpreted it, I saw it as X and will follow as X
@@wasd3108 an average reader of the constitution & legislation with his own interpretation of them ends up violating everyone else’s rights and the law. He’s a sovereign citizen! Do you want to be to religion as sovereign citizens are to law? Or do you love your religion and the Bible enough to take the time to actually understand it in its full complexity?
Look, I’m actually a conservative against no-cause abortions, however, the truth is the Bible REGULATES abortion, NOT prohibits it. The “Christian” position against abortion is ANTITHETICAL to Biblical precepts of justice BECAUSE abortion is, in specific instances, the Bible’s SOLUTION to prevent injustice.
ANY NON-PATERNITY EVENT, including rape, is why the Bible DOESN’T outright prohibit abortion. It’s not to eliminate rape’s harmful consequences on females. It’s to eliminate any harmful consequences of non-paternity events upon husbands. It’s for PATERNAL CERTAINTY.
The Bible’s societal system is patriarchal and the economic system is patrilineal. Non-paternity events in married females is the most heinous attack on the patrilineal-patriarchy BECAUSE the Biblical system legally assigns upon the PUTATIVE genetic father (from the marriage contract) ALL the responsibility relating to the fetus following impregnation, the provision of it after birth until adulthood and to its mother.
Biblical abortion is allowed to 1) protect the life of the mother, or 2) to PROTECT and SAFEGUARD the FINANCIAL and GENETIC INTERESTS of married MISATTRIBUTED FATHERS. Whichever the case, the Bible places all of the rights over a fetus to its putative father, not the pregnant mother, and ALL abortion cases must be adjudicated by a court.
To prevent gross miscarriages of justice against financial interests of a husband during his lifetime, against his deceased estate after he dies, against his right to leave genetic progeny (including for hereditary purposes of priesthood, tribal membership, royal succession, inheritance), to ensure that his descendants are ACTUALLY his so that his family line isn’t killed off by a genetic usurper (which is the fundamental purpose and right of all living organisms), the Bible uses abortion to 1) PREVENT paternal-line RESPONSIBILITIES attaching to the INCORRECT male, 2) to PREVENT paternal-line RIGHTS attaching to a genetic usurper, and 3) to PREVENT the unlawful killing-off of a family line.
But the Bible does this in a way disturbing to our modern sensibilities, in a pre-science and pre-DNA-testing manner.
In the Biblical abortion procedure, it is HUSBANDS who, in the “Ordeal of the Bitter Water”, have the right of originating a petition to the religious Court for the administration of a Biblically compliant abortion:
1) a husband who MERELY suspects the fetus carried by his lawfully-married wife is not biologically his, either because he suspects she was unfaithful but he lacks the Biblically required evidence to prove a case of adultery, or he is aware or suspects that his wife was raped, initiates proceedings for an abortion so that the birth of the fetus of another man does not cause loss against him as husband, his family’s estate, and so that his family is not killed-off with him by the passing off of another man’s child as his own.
2) a male-only panel of Israelite judges, adjudicating the husband’s petition, administer an abortifacient (the Bitter Water) on the under-oath pregnant wife to cause an abortion, which if successful, the abortion is divine judgment that the child was not the husband’s, but if the fetus survives then it is divine intervention and evidence the husband is the father.
If the abortion is successful, no death penalty for adultery is imposed on the wife because the case was a pre-birth paternity civil case, not an adultery criminal case. The Biblical remedy to the civil case was the abortion itself, because Biblically the fetus is NOT considered alive until birth, while it is a fetus it is considered to have some rights as property of its putative father not it’s mother (and not full rights per se of a living breathing person).
As Biblically a pregnant woman has a say on aborting her fetus only for healthcare reasons if her life is in danger, she can petition an abortion, but it too is adjudicated by the male-only panel of Israelite judges if her death will come from carrying the fetus to term or the labor will kill her. Otherwise abortion is not permissible, because the fetus is the property of the putative father and she can’t destroy his property without just cause.
A fetus therefore, as property of its father, also carries a similar classification of being a parasitic entity to its pregnant mother until it is born (when its head is fully outside of her). After its head is fully outside of its mother, if its mother is in mortal danger, both must be attempted to be saved without preference to either. However, before that point is reached, a fetus must be terminated if it is to save its mother just as one is permitted to kill a mortal assailant in self-defence.
Similarly, a parasitic twin is alive but not a living soul, and it entirely depends on its live-born non-parasitic twin and being attached to it for its survival. Biblically, it is not murder to kill the parasitic twin to save the life of the non-parasitic twin.
A husband’s right to recourse for disputed paternity of a fetus is extinguished upon the birth of the child born to his lawful wife. Their contact of marriage has that legal effect on the baby once it’s born, even if the husband isn’t the biological father. That’s why if he suspects the fetus is NOT his, the Bible’s judicially sanctioned abortive remedy is for WHILE the wife is pregnant. After birth his paternity is legally established, and all rights and responsibilities can never be challenged or dissolved.
But what of when a non-married female is raped (whether or not she is impregnated from the rape)? Since there’s no husband to petition the Bible’s judicially abortive procedure in the case of a raped unmarried woman, the Bible’s remedy is to judicially try the rapist for his crime, and if convicted, as his punishment the female he raped (wether he impregnated her or not) is given the option to have the rapist forced to marry her.
Biblically, marriage wasn’t as we understand it today. Marriage had little if anything to do with love. It was nothing more than a legally binding contract. Still today we sign a “contract of marriage” (in Jewish law this contract is called a Ketubah). Getting married is still called “contracting marriage”. This inconspicuous remnant of marriage’s contract law history hides in plain sight.
In an ordinary marriage contract, one party undertakes to do and refrain from doing certain things in exchange for the other party doing and refrain from doing certain things. Each had specific rights and responsibilities within the contract. Biblically only the man had the right to no-fault divorce, because he was the one with the financial responsibilities in the contract, the wife has no obligation to contribute financially.
When a rapist is forced to marry his victim, that was HER option. If she chose it, it was a JUDICIALLY ENFORCED marriage as PUNISHMENT (not reward) to the rapist. That marriage had different terms and conditions; the rapist retains all his responsibilities to his now wife, but loses all his rights as husband, she gains all his rights in addition to her own rights and she is absolved of her responsibilities to him as wife. She doesn’t have to do anything for him she doesn’t want to, neither cook, nor clean, give him sex, bear him children (other than the one she bears if she was impregnated during the rape). But he forever has to house her, in her own home if she wants, feed her, clothe her, provide for any child she bore as a result of the rape, and he FOREVER loses the Biblical right of “no-fault divorcing” her which would otherwise be held only by a husband, not a wife. He becomes the financial slave of his victim-turned-wife, because the rapist deprived her of marriageability, which in patriarchal systems means destitution and possibly death for lack of provision to her or her child.
Conversely, if a married or betrothed (engaged) female is raped, and the rapist is found guilty, he is executed for “adulterating” her husband’s lineage, and THEN the Ordeal of Bitter Water judicial remedy is initiated by the husband against the fetus.
Finally, the Decalogue doesn’t say “Thou shalt not kill”. That is a misreading! The Hebrew text says “Thou shall not murder”. The Bible doesn’t outright prohibit killing of breathing live humans, it regulates it, because it distinguishes between lawful killing and unlawful killing. Murder vs killing in self-defence, killing during defensive war, or killing of judicially convicted capital crime offenders (i.e. through the judicial system, DULY prosecuted, convicted, and sentenced, with the execution carried out by a state delegated executioner who carries out the execution without bloodguilt).
That being said, Biblically, abortion DOESN’T EVEN fall under killing, let alone murder. Thus, if a person unlawfully terminates a fetus extrajudicially (OUTSIDE the Biblical abortion procedure described above which must ALWAYS involve the panel of judges), the Bible classifies that as destruction of property, not killing. The person responsible is liable in tort to pay monetary damages to the father. The tortfeasor doesn’t get convicted for murder or executed BECAUSE the Biblical standpoint is that humans do not have legal personhood until birth, and you can’t kill something that isn’t yet born. Similarly, a fetus of a properly slaughtered kosher animal is permissible to eat without its own kosher slaughter, as it can’t be slaughtered independently, and is considered an organ of its mother.
@@wasd3108 Heh. There's no room for 'interpretation' The passages are 100% clear, with no ambiguity whatsoever. 'D SP' (a self-identified Conservative) has even provided an amazingly comprehensive ethnographic and historical breakdown of exactly 'when' and 'why' the Bible supports abortion. There are plenty of topics where the Bible is ambiguous, or offers contradictory passages in different sections, but on the topic of abortion it is VERY CLEAR.... And it specifies that 1) Abortion IS NOT murder, since murder is a deadly sin, and should be punished by death, while abortion is allowed, 2) Abortion 'on-demand' is fine (though as a document from a male chauvinist culture, it only suggests that 'husbands' get to make that demand), and 3) that 'inducing a miscarriage' (by assault, no less) is ALSO NOT MURDER, since it should be punished only by a fine.
@@dsp6373 God, I’m glad you posted this. Now I can ask a person who actually believes (no cause) abortions are wrong to explain that stance. If you believe (no cause) abortions are murder, what is the difference if that pregnancy is the result of rape or incest? Is that fetus not alive or does it’s life not matter? If it’s because of the catastrophic harm such a pregnancy(carried to term) will do to the mother then doesn’t every woman have the right to decide whether the harm is too great to give birth? I’m seriously trying to understand the anti-choice stand. It seems illogical at best and hypocritical at worst.
Then, what will happen with the baby being born from a 10 years old child (victim of raped)? The very young "mother" and the child born will be more "suffer." Pro-life is the only word...but many children were killed by gunshots at school..a real child, and Republicans don't care. It is pathetic.
As a survivor of CSA her lies and misinformation disgust me. A 10 year old terminating a pregnancy has had an abortion. She and everyone else like her wants to paint the "policies" they support as humane when they are far from humane. It's best to listen to women about their bodies because only they understand when they can carry a pregnancy and little girls shouldn't even be pregnant, I know it happens and it makes me disgusted with humanity.
th-cam.com/video/87_ym-Sg1Ts/w-d-xo.html is finally here
Imagine having to deny your political positions because they do so much harm.
Imagine having no qualms about doing so. 😳
Isn't there some penalty for intentionally lying to congress? Apparently not if you're a Christian religious lunatic.
"Do you swear or affirm, under penalty of perjury...?" Yes, she most certainly did commit perjury, and most certainly should be charged for it.
I fear for that poor 10 year-old girl in more ways than one. She will get threats from conservative monsters for years who'll still claim she's lying.
That family should move , because their neighbors Might be religious 🥜 and they might hurt that little girl.
@@Ellieempress Don't be ridiculous..
@@dannicatzer305 you meant to say realistic, that’s ok though.
@@dannicatzer305 Parkland school shooting victim's families {and survivors} have been hounded by some and called FAKE
@@chrisbuttonshaw2088 Yeah kooks aren't rare, still irrelevant to this case..
Why doesn’t the woman who gives the daily briefing, when asked a question by Peter Doocy from Fox “News”, simply say I’m sorry your Network called the 10 year old rape story false, so until Fox corrects that situation and says it is real and apologizes for their lie, im not answering your questions. Thx Pete.
1 abortion a week for children under 15? WTF is going on in Ohio. Why are there so many pregnant children?
It's a red state... GOP - Gang Of Perverts
Priests, incels, conservatives, religious zealots, cults that are inherently right wing... Take your pick
It's a Red State. The education system is poor and the people are ignorant. So protection, sex education, and the truth are all very low priorities.
The church.
@@nikm5628 guess it’s heaven for these people when Gym Jordan is covering for you...
Oh, Republicans and cognitive dissonance. I audibly heard the "spoink" when that "activist" said that an abortion wasn't an abortion.
I don't know that its cognitive dissonance I think its more the fact that many of their positions are based on lies. Most of the claims of Democrats are what they are doing. Most claims about abortions dont focus on punishing slutty women but instead say its about saving lives. They make hatred of trans people about saving children from bathroom attacks. They arent for America because what they want is to change to a religious fascist dictatorship. They just lie and they now are not even doing a good job at it. Since the EPA is now unable to enforce regulations though I am sure the Education dept is soon to go next because they love stupid smug liars.
From the Party that coined the term "legitimate rape"
1 abortion per week in Ohio. under the age of 15 in 2020. means a whole lot of unregulated sexual misconduct. formerly known as crime.
The modern woke left promotes this kind of self absorbed nihilism. It's all about feeling good and morality is abstract.
I lived with child molestation. It wasn't fun.
keep a person ignorant you can keep him oppressed
1984 was supposed to be a warning not a blueprint !!
I’m waiting on season 5 of
“The Handmaid's Tale” to get tips on surviving the years ahead of coming soon.
Orwellian, indeed.
It's exactly like O'Brien of the Inner Party declaring that 2+2=5.
Or Goebbels declaring that the people of Japan were Aryans.
This is exactly what they did when they changed the name of the war department to the defense department. Or when they called torture enhanced interrogation. Also how they called blanket spying on all americans the patriot act. We're in alot of trouble and we don't have an oposition party combat this.
Interesting fact. Actor Terrance Howard just released a “mathematical” paper in which he says 1 x 1 = 2
@@kevmccarthy8311 I had a HS math teacher who could prove if you threw a piece of chalk at the wall, it never actually hits it. And that, using mathematical rules, 1 + 1 DOES equal 1
2:31 "I don't like the honest, straightforward nature of your question, so I'm going to redefine abortion."
As a medical coder, I can tell you from professional experience that anything that terminates a pregnancy is medically considered to be an abortion. We even have separate codes to identify which type (elective and spontaneous).
I find it a bit ironic that after any child is born they cease to care. Because they don't support any social programs that help mothers & children in living a healthy life.
I think it's important to know that there was never a part of it where they cared.
It is about Fascism.
Cenk mentioned that words don’t have meaning anymore. He called it “torture” and that’s followed up by “the seizing of the language”. I call it emotional abuse.
I’ve said for years: our country is in a toxic relationship, and emotional abuse is rampant from one side.
I’ve been in this relationship before (as so many people have), and we know: there’s literally no convincing the other side to see reason. We have to keep calling out this madness and at the same time-keep hope alive and work toward the future we know is possible-even with this toxic “partnership” if he can even be called that.
i would agree since i just read a whole page of hate on that video clip about the trans question that the professor answered on cspan. That was nothing but extreme gaslighting. which is emotional abuse
Right to live before birth, but AFTER, not so much..on your own!
Vote for BETTER people, who respect everyone's Constitutional Rights NOT to be shot, and *not to be forced* into childbirth, from age 10 onwards
OK then. I'ma open a Not-Abortion clinic in Alabama.
The rate of kids in foster homes are going to go through the roof.. it's sad becouse foster parents are very abusive.
True!
I bet a vast majority of people that grew up in foster care wouldn’t say they would have rather been murdered then in foster care!!!
The real opportunity to own this lady was lost when he didn't ask her, when she talked about rape, "Do you think a ten year old CAN have consensual sex?" " can they make THAT decision?" Any answer she gave would have been nuts.
How in Hades can ANYONE say a ten year old's LIFE NOT ENDANGERED by being RAPED AND BEING FORCED TO CARRY THE PREGNANCY TO TERM!!!!!
Batshit CRAAAAAZY CONservatives, who believe in Party before Honesty.
The average weight gain for a pregnancy is said to be 25-35lbs. Now I don't personally happen to know a single woman, nor have I ever heard of a single woman that gained only 25lbs.
Ana supposed that the 10 year old weighed maybe 80lbs?
So one could hypothesize that a 10 year old could gain half of her own weight in a pregnancy. Just WoW GOP
The birth process would likely kill her
You make a good point although there is some culture's that are naturally big..take my culture everyone on my side is born around 13 maybe 14lbs were on my husband they are small 9-10lbs at most so I think race plays apart of it but I like your point
Let's all be honest here: Republicans are engaging in Orwell's concept of Doublethink.
Yes! I was looking for anyone commenting with the reference to Orwell's Doublethink. 👍
I thought of Doubelthink before she had even finished saying what she said.
A 10 year olds life would absolutely be in danger if she had been forced to carry to term.
A ten year old body can't withstand the pain of giving birth that sh&+t is painful even with medication to ease the pain let alone the hours she would have to go through these people are insane
Is this state one that gives rapist rights with that baby? Serious question.
If roughly 3 out of 4 Americans disagree with Republicans on overturning Roe V. Wade and banning abortion how do they expect to continue to win elections based on this 1 issue and have nothing else to offer voters?
gerrymandering and repressing voter turn out, since 1988 they have won the popular vote once , in 2004. Republicans do not care about the will of the people, they care about rigging the game so they win
Tax cuts and fear politics through false culture war victim grievance issues.
The system is set in their favor and they control the courts. They can totally win even if they are not popular.
Lifetime appointments. They don't need elections.
Because people are apathetic about voting.😒
This is for people who were eligible to vote, but chose not to in 2016: Hillary Clinton tried to warn you about Trump-appointed judges overturning Roe v Wade.
This is for people who are eligible to vote this November, but aren’t planning to vote: If you want to keep the rights you value, you need to vote (while you still have the right to vote!)
I feel sorry for the children of any parent that doesn't insist that woman is immediately and permanently removed from her position of power.
She got were she is because she is a good puppet.
"Americans United for Life". Total bullshit.
Catherine Glenn Foster is against womens rights and abortion. Except when it's needed. In which case it would not be abortion. It would be abortion. Which is different than abortion.
I swear, everything that comes out of Ohio is awful.
I was in Texas once long time ago... and I was pregnant with my son, and this lady and I got to talking and she was telling me that in Texas in order to have an abortion, you need your husband's permission! If he says NO it's not happening.... Mind you I was just going through cuz my husband was a truck driver... I just had to laugh that one off.... because thinking that I would need his permission for my body was just outrageous to me, comical even.
An inconvenient truth!
This country is sick! So sick
I've heard a lot of right wingers clarify: rape is "probably" not okay (a lot don't agree what constitutes "rape"); but forcing the child to have a rapist's baby is acceptable because, although it would most likely damage the child/rape-victim, the baby living is the important thing. This does not extend to government helping the baby and child/rape victim after the baby is born - because that is welfare. I've heard this from a lot of right wingers. Mainly men with a strong predilection to having kids with children, like they did in the old Testament.
The fact there seem to be men, whose argument always eventually comes down to how a woman "should have thought of that before she had sex". You would think they would realize how laughingly transparent that is. I think some do and just like to continue to call women names and feel like they are winning something by stating their position on abortion. Its bizarre how I will often see more men seem to get so ridiculously out of control on this. This and a lot of them bought into QAnon.
Never underestimate the ignorance of the American people!!!!!
The rest of the civilised world is scratching their heads over this abortion ban.
The rest of the civilised world is not in religious psychosis like the USA
That's the main reason we think so differently than Americans imho
The rest of world is scratching their heads over the ignorance of a country that is arguing the claim that the people that arrest rapist are the ones that want the rapist to have a baby with the rape victim. If that's what they wanted they would have legalized rape, so how ignorant is that. Leftist would more likely be the embarrassment to the socialist world. We're a country of laws, being degraded to a country of freelance law makers
Irish Politician Mick Wallace on the United States being a democracy 1min clip on YT , European parliament , you wont find him in a suit .
Nevermind that very few places in the world have had the loose abortion laws that we have. Go and look this up because clearly liberals are not being made aware of this and they are apparently not curious. The civilized world WAS scratching their heads: “so in America, you were allowed to kill your unborn baby whenever?” They may now be scratching their heads: “so the stated Democrat position in America is you should be able to kill your unborn baby up until birth?” You’re right there’s head scratching going on but it’s not because Roe was overturned 😂
First ten words of the first amendment "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"
The fact that they have no problem making a 10yr carry a baby to term just proves how dangerous they are. Hold on America our future is dismal. Come November we have a chance to fix the problem. If we sit by snd let this gop stay in power then we deserve what happens
Stay strapped.
Fact is, the GOP technically isn't in power. Biden is the president, Demcmocrats are the majority. Voting is not enough. You also need to force Biden and the Democrats to do something instead of just using this issue to get votes.
“It would impact her life.” Unlike those casual pregnancies that don’t do anything to people.
i hope your being sarcastic
When is an abortion not an abortion? Only Catherine Glenn Foster knows.
Simple. It's "not an abortion" when Republican congressmen need one for their mistress
If they can get you to believe absurdities then they can convince you to commit atrocities
I still can't believe that Roe V Wade was the straw that broke the camel's back as far as women voting republican, but as grandma always said, don't look a gift horse in the mouth...!
We are nation of laws (Supreme Court) not a nation of freelance law makers, where the hairdresser calls AOC when ever she doesn't like a law that was enacted
I hope these woman wake up, I didn't have to wake up because I was already woke when I saw Republicans lying with my own eyes from the beginning when Trump started coming around into politics.
We’ll have to wait and see exactly how many r women refuse to vote for their party. I’m not very optimistic.☹️
Even if you don't call it one? It's still 100% an abortion.
Give money directly to pro choice places like planned parenthood not politicians!
Im going to drink a 5th of vodka. But because its in a water bottle it doesn't qualify as alcohol. So officer I am not qualified under law as a drunk driver best I didn't drink alcohol. (hiccUP). z
WTF!
Not abortion? Then what is it? Do they have another dictionary?
Shame on you Ohio
"that doesn't count" ..... well there's State laws saying 'no abortions in ANY situation'. This is ANY situation.
Ohio law explicitly states “to prevent the death of the pregnant woman” or “to prevent a serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function of the pregnant woman”. The 10yo EASILY classifies as both. She could have had the abortion in Ohio. She didn’t for a reason we are unaware of at this point.
@@joenoonan762 What exactly classifies as "serious risk?" How long do you have to wait? Will an overzealous prosecutor eager to make a name for themselves disagree with the doctor's assessment? Do you wait to get a second opinion for the procedure? See the issue with the so called exceptions? They're only exceptions so long as doctors and hospitals are scared of prosecution. Everyone interprets the law differently and hospitals tend to be overly cautious. It's why the Texas Medical Association is now receiving complaints of things like ectopic pregnancy care being delayed. And it's happening in states with abortion bans throughout the country, not just Texas.
@@Raizhen010 yup.. you understand every law can be abused, misinterpreted, wrongfully applied… even benign laws. But with abortion restriction the aim is to preserve life, the aim is to represent the rights and dignity of the unborn. Yes there are problems with legislating abortion that are going to need to be worked out. Yes the woman’s life is in irreconcilable conflict with the unborn’s. The answer is not unfettered abortion access just like the answer to wrongful murder convictions is not to abandon homicide laws.
@@joenoonan762 For one, not everyone shares your definition of when life begins so why should your belief be shoved onto everyone else? Secondly, the world isn't black and white as I would hope the story of the ten year old rape victim has shown you. Forcing her to carry a pregnancy is incredibly dangerous on top of being cruel. Punishing a rape victim of any age is traumatic, even more so with a child who doesn't even understand what happened to her and extreme abortion restrictions impact these situations even when so called exceptions are put in place. Third, abortion as controversial is a modern thing. Abortion used to be accepted until the "quickening" (Fetal movement). It's only after science discovered the process in its entirety that religious folks in particular started making it a controversial thing when it simply never was before. The bottom line is this. It's not your business. If you don't believe in it, fine. Don't have one or don't be with someone that would have one. Don't shove your beliefs on other people. It's especially concerning when you phrase the women's life as in irreconcilable conflict with the unborn's. I sincerely hope, you don't value a fertilized egg, zygote, or fetus over a living breathing woman's life. That position is just so ridiculously extreme.
Pregnancy is inherently dangerous by its nature. Banning abortion only makes it even more dangerous and outright discourages women from having children. Birth rates will likely decline as a result.
It's not just abortion itself that is being limited or outright banned. It's contraception. States are moving to ban IUDs, Invitro fertilization, various drugs are not being filled even when they are not used for abortion. One clerk in Wisconsin even refused to sell condoms. It's not a tenable situation and there's no way a small and extreme minority dictating the lives of others is going to be tolerated long term. It will cause civil unrest.
And lastly, there was never unfettered abortion access. It was legal in the first trimester. Legal with some restrictions in the second trimester varying by state. And illegal in the third trimester barring extreme circumstances like severe fetal defect that make the pregnancy simply not viable or the mother has some sort of severe medical condition develop. Stop spouting this unfettered abortion access lie. No one has that position.
@@Raizhen010 I don’t have the time or interest to go through your reply item for item. I can see you are filled with one sided talking points. I hope you look at the debate objectively because what we have is several generations of people who have grown up under Roe and take abortion access for granted, a human right, a laughable constitutional right. People are finally talking about it as they should. That discussion was halted by the Roe decision. So I hope you keep talking about it. I hope you look at the debate objectively and I hope you also look at what got us here. The Democrats had every chance in the world to codify the first trimester. They could have easily during the Clinton admin and beyond. They refused. They refuse anything except 9 months. “Safe legal and rare” evolved into “shout your abortion”. Those are the radicals that prevented reasonable legislation. And you are uninformed of you have not followed the plot.
Republicans: PROTECT THE CHILDREN
Also Republicans: you didn't force that 10 year old rape victim to have the baby? WHY I OUGHTA😤😤😤
The party of "Family Values," folks.
If a 10 year old gets an abortion it not an abortion. She should be perjury charge
I can't believe what I just heard. It's literally 1984 Newspeak.
Pure insanity.
"Did you just hear some disinformation?" is a real-life Marshall McLuhan moment.
THANK YOU guy in the hat, what they are doing is called DOUBLE SPEAK according to orwell
This is the Shirley Exception. As in, "surely this would still be allowed," even though the statute expressly bans it.
SUPREMES SHOULD MANDATE VASECTOMIES: MUCH SAFER, MUCH EASIER, MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE AND MUCH, MUCH CHEAPER.
Let's make possession of Viagra a felony!
Ohio has replaced Louisiana.
We already have places in this country that allow law enforcement to investigate miscarriages. The new Yorker had an article on this and I wish more outlets would talk about it. So say someone heard you got the drug that aborts the fetus but you really did have a miscarriage. However they went to the police and in turn they investigate you and find research on the drug or similar searches 🤷🏼♀️ seriously!! Thank God my face shape is perfect for a bonnet because it's getting closer and closer to handmaid's being real.
I'd rather die than wear that f8cking bonnet. Hell, I'll do a suicide bomb and take a few commanders with me.
Yeah there have been laws going on in states that also will convict if a woman is a drug user and pregnant for endangering the fetus. I dont know if that is still a thing, although it probably will be returning.
I’m truly terrified for the younger generations!
I wish Swalwell would run for president
He did in 2020, he didn't get very far. I hope he tries again as well. Peace!
I will be voting on choice. the woman in my life will have choice. county,state, fed,
They already do have choice. The choice to be responsible and not get pregnant
@@michaelhalterman8812 Your opinion does not matter.
@@michaelhalterman8812 As if the ten year old rape victim had a choice. You're a monster.
@@KrasMazovHatesYourGuts We all know he's not for that choice either - he's supporting banning a raped 10-year old from getting an abortion after all.
They are such liars and monsters.
can we introduce “not gun” laws to help curb mass shootings?
What about all of those late term abortions when a mother is carrying a dead Fetus inside her.
Why do pro-life people do nothing to help Fetus get born? Like maternity leave. In Canada you get 1.5 years of leave and guaranteed job upon return.
because it's not actually about babies to them, it's about controlling women. they want women to be put in these desperate situations where they have to struggle to support the baby they were forced to have, because they're easier to control that way.
that's why they don't care about infant mortality rates, or any kinds of 'fringe' abortion cases affected by these bans. to them it's just acceptable collateral damage to their real goal.
Freedom of religion to a retrumplican means freedom to choose to accept evangelism or not, not to practice any religion you choose.
The thing is, even if the story was fake.....there are MANY MANY stories like that, children get pregnant sadly so I dont get the logic.
Abortion sue to rape (any age) is around 1% of abortions performed. We can all agree as to how horrid that situation would be.
Pertaining to the subject of abortion though, another 1% are due to imminent danger to the mothers life. Are you against the other 98% of abortions that have no such just cause?
@@ianalan4367 care to site any sources for those numbers? Because that's a blatant lie at worst and a pathetic uneducated guess at best.
@@ianalan4367 Why suddenly r-pe abortion is fine with you? Is a r-pe fetus no longer a fetus or what lmao?Why its suddenly ok to abort a r-pe fetus but not a non-r-pe one? Is it no longer something 'worthy of protection cause its a child uwu' if its a r-pe case?
You two faced shts only want to punish women for having sex and enjoying sex, you dont even care about the fetus.
@@ianalan4367 women do not have abortions for irresponsible or selfish reasons..
@@oceancurl Guttmatcher Institute but there are many other credited research groups that report the same statistics. You could actually research it before you accuse someone of lying. Take crae of yourself.
"If a 10 y/o became pregnant as a result of rape and it was threatening her life, then that's not an abortion" - yo! buddy's face to the right of old girl is priceless when she dropped that bomb!!!
Just the medical term. Even a natural miscarriage is technically called a spontaneous abortion
Seems to be alternative facts. Republicans are great with word salad.
Why if it's not an abortion, did the 10 year old have to go to another state to get an abortion???? Wait what!
That's not an abortion" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Although she looks like an abortion, maybe thats why shes confused
“Nah the abortions not an abortion”
What happens to the guy that got a 10-year Pregnant? I expect the republicans to Praise him
yes, he got promoted in his job, he is making side money now speaking to future rapists, he got a long life membership of the GOP, a statue is being build in Tennessee , Oklahoma is naming a holiday after him and west Virginia knighted the guy.
@@tim99291 Thank you. I NEEDED to laugh...this subject is upsetting, but for a few minutes your comment made it bearable! Peace to you and Greg.
Swallwell should have asked her if it's not an abortion as she says, what is it? Should have put her on the spot.
Swallwell is normall quite quick but he let her off the hook there.
I think it’s mind blowing how willingly ignorant so many Americans choose to be….. thanks from Australia
We got the short end of the stick when England sent criminals to Australia and the religious nuts to our lands.
words don't have meaning anymore
To a Republican her phrasing will sound quite effective. I wish that Swalwell had done a better job in countering her.
i often wonder just how many 'pro life' women have had an abortion
i think the numbers would be massive
I think you will have clearer numbers for male 'pro life' activists who made their side chicks get abortions.
Do as I say, don't do as I do...
They would be for sure. I know a couple who are ridiculously pro life and right down the christofacist bunny hole. Yet that same couple, literally 8 years ago in their early twenties, had an abortion. Not because it was life threatening, because they didn't want to be parents yet. It's the good Ole "Rules for thee but not for me" argument.
How many of them have trolled kids while they're in local govt. their 2nd and 3rd wife met the Congressman in Jr. High
The Republican Party should be indicted for crimes against humanity
To quote the Simpsons: "We've tried nothing, and we're all out of ideas!"
Sums up the Democrats!
Excellent reference
Forcing victims to share custody with their rapist!
I’d like to tell these Republicans that the youngest mother ever was FIVE. She had a rare condition wherein menstruation began at 7 months, and gave birth, at age 5, in South America in the 1930s. That is the type of situation they’re asking for if they insist on dying on this hill.
Right, and this woman added "if it threatened her life" into the equation as if thats the pivotal element. Any 10 year old trying to bring a baby to term, is in severe medical peril. But still, thats not the issue. If there was no peril, this woman would force a 10 year old rape victim to deliver full term. INSANITY!
Even if this story was fake, we know this thing has happened and will happen. So the story being fake would still be irrelevant. You would have to discredit every single documented incident in history throughout the entire world, and every single story that may appear in the future.
its sadly not though. they cant even state how she also was denied the abortion since it was past 6 weeks. the fact of a 10-year-old who just developed enough to get pregnant and likely is not developed enough to handle a full pregnancy without causing her serious damage to her as her body tries to juggle both the pregnancy and her finishing puberty and anyone had the audacity to think she should know before six weeks that she was pregnant? This is insane. They dont care about kids at all. They dont really even care about the fetus much. They want to control others.
It happened. The rapist has been arrested, and ANY ten year old who is pregnant HAS been raped by DEFINITION.
Well now we know who are the real child abuser. The numbers don't lie.
No right to life in the Constitution. Extreme Court is limiting the enumerated right to Due Process, which is what protects the right to life, real, individual, life.
People MUST vote this November, no excuses.....