Awesome. I just acquired 79 Wagoneer , all Original. So I'm as of this post, a few day new to the entire Jeep world. Where are some good links and places to get some ideas like upgrade brakes, suspension concerns, as Mine has a tiny bit of steer wander, could use a couple dash knobs etc.
One of the best down and dirty about the Wagoneer I've seen, thanks! Wish I had seen before I bought my 86. I'm a body guy, but probably should've passed on the one I bought from the rust. But, I love it.
Have possibly one of the rarest SJ's, sitting on my driveway, here in the UK. AMC tried to have dealerships in Europe for about 5 years ('79-'83?) before quitting and going home. Not many of the Jeeps sold here during that time still exist, unfortunately. Most of the SJ's were converted to RHD by cutting the steering column under the dash, moving the top half to the right side and running a chain drive under the dash. The one on my driveway had the proper conversion, steering box, brake booster, column, etc all moved to the right side. In addition, as it is an '83, it has the aluminium bumpers, not the nasty chrome plated steel bumpers that peeled and flaked off. As far as i can tell, it's the only Cherokee still registered with the DVLA (UK DMV) for that year. Roof is fubar, but pretty much everything from the rain gutters down is in great shape. The floor pans are amazingly good, for instance. Just have to find someone who can rebuild the roof, and patch a couple other holes (fender, tailgate). Not an easy thing to do, over here, as no one wants to take it on (without a lottery win first)
I miss my 70 wagoneer had the 360 auto d20 case. Bought a 78 wagoneer with 401 was planning to 401 my 70. But it ended up in a 79 cj man was that thing scary fast
We naver has issues with a prestolight or mo turd craft ignition systems but when i put a 360 in my cj7 the ford system took a dump on me. The hei is the best money ive ever spent. Jeeps never ran better with that 360.
So, I just bought an 88 grand wagoneer thats in pretty good shape cosmetically. But its really got me stumped. First of all, it wont idle most of the time. However sometimes out of the blue it will idle just fine, but most of the time it just dies unless theres constant pressure on the throttle. Took it to a mechanic after driving it home and he discovered someone had removed the pcv valve and capped it off. So I bought the valve and installed it with a new pcv hose as well. Unfortunatly it didnt make much of a difference. I know the valve is working because I ran the car with a business card on top of the oil filler hole to make sure its actually sucking air in, not blowing out. On top of this Ive been finding oil in the air cleaner, which is a really bad sign. But ive pulled the spark plugs and they are all dry with no evidence of bad rings. Im thinking the idle issue is probably a vacume leak somewhere but I feel like it could be connected to the blow by somehow. After driving the jeep 2 miles today. I discovered a white substance in the air cleaner coming directly from the oil cap hose. This doesnt make sense since its still sucking air DOWN the oil filler hole, not up(i did the test again to make sure). It seems like the engine has "blow by" sometimes, but not always, as if the pvc valve only works half the time. I tried to join the Ifsja forum a few weeks ago to ask for advice there but it still wont let me post anything. Like it says above im stumped. Anyone know of a forum I can join that will actually let me ask questions? Any help is appreciated.
Caleb Woodard check the egr valve. The diaphragm is probably stuck on it. Mine had similar issue. It's sending too much exhaust gas in the intake. Easy to change out.
LOVE it. I've got a 78 and a 91. question: where in the WORLD can i get another rear window washer assembly? feels like i'm searching for a unicorn horn..
We have a 67 fsj. Doesnt leak a drop. But we have universal moldings that are too thick so it doesnt leak but you jave to slam the doors and all the body lines dont line up
What i wanna know is how do you guys know for sure a vehicle has 52k miles, when dashes only went to 99,999 before they clocked over back to 0, ive seen alot of older Jeeps with 30-40-50-60k miles. But that doesnt mean they werent 130-140-150k miles ect
A person who knows cars can tell if it has that many miles- gas pedal, brake pedal under the vehicle-frame, pans. Let me ask you this. Could you spot which door knob had 1000 turns from one that had 100 from thr way the paint was rubbed and wood was worn away from the general area?
@@poppaluv floor pans and frame and so forth wont show the mileage.. i can bring you a car with 100k miles from west virginia and itll look like it has 300k miles.. And my 98 zj 315k mile looks like it has 100k mile. please. I have a wagoneer with 112k when i got it, but it looks like it has double the miles due to the rust and wear on everything.
@@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305 Well i don't know what to tell you. There are things to look for. I have been buying and restoring cars since 1986. No car with 50k miles will have an interior of a 300k car. Neither will the engine bay and the parts that make up the engine compartment. Things will be tight and not loose, there will not be wear, do you know how to do a compression test? A 50k engine will show a bit differently than one with well over 100k.
Hey Drew, I recently found your channel and really liking the theme of what your doing on it. I recently acquired (5 years ago) an original (unmolested) '79 Super Chief thats yellow with black accents and I have had a difficult time finding info on these Chiefs. I've only seen 5 others across the country while online doing research and wondering if you could point me in the direction of gathering more info about these models. What I know so far is that they were a California only package that was completed by the dealer but factory sponsored. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
they were a dealer modified wagoneer (if yours has the wide track fenders) done by Brian chachua and AMC jeep dealer. There are some picas of the super chiefs he sold here and there on the internet.
Hello, I am looking at a 1986 jeep wagoneer, with 180k miles. Looks to be in great shape, but I'm worried about the miles. What you say that's too many? Also, how reliable are these cars? I'm just wanting one for a fun second car.
That's hard to answer. I usually stay below 130k miles. But if the jeep is in REALLY good shape or very rare I will go above that number. Hope this helps Drew
greetings from venezuela friend I had a van of this when I bought it had the 5.2L engine dodge with its 727 transmission, I had to fix the engine was not worth fixing it I went to the importer and I bought a 5.2L model new magnum jeep grand cherokee and dodge ram with ses engine and the same transmission 727 that mid-sized truck stepped on the accelerator and punctured rubber and unintentionally jejeje a lot of strength had that truck with that engine pity that did not take a picture would have shown it as it had more where the impeccable engine goes here in Venezuela most of these jeep have the 5.2L engine 318 in transmission 727 and 518.
G' day, thanks for doing a little show on the FSJ. I live in NSW Australia and have a 1984 FSJ 4 door wagon with a 360,727 with 170 '000 km,s on the clock. Australia is metric. I m not. Can you please keep up on the restoration on your wagon and do some product testing and evaluations on aftermarket products please if you can. I mean things like window, door seals, lenses and timing covers. I am up to doing the timing cover on my 360 but can't make my mind up on who is the best cover. Bulltear, omix, indy, proform. I don't want to get a bad one sent to me in Australia. Can you do a reseal of the factory fitted roof racks I see I can get a seal, gasket kit for it. Thanks.
Afternoon Benjamin, Hopefully we can do more videos in the future. I have done new door seals and lots of parts you mentioned. Resealing the roof rack is very easy. I usually buy the gasket kit from BJ's Offroad. Once I remove the rack itself, I usually use a "dab" of RTV sealer on each bolt and with the new gasket set, it seals up just fine. As for the timing cover, I usually go with a Crown unit. I do like the Bulltear ones also. They make a wonderful oil pump "midplate" and spring set to bring oil pressure back up in higher mileage AMC motors. But I do believe that in a basically "stockish" AMC motor the crown one is perfect. I also used the crown Matched Distributor gear and Timing gear set just this week. Worked great. Thanks for your complements and keep the questions coming, Happy to answer them. DREW The Jeep Farm, LLC
Hi Drew, thanks for getting back to me on my questions. My 360 has very good oil pressure but the cover is corroded where the coolant flows through to the block. It has been welded up before in this area so I don't want to take the risk of it letting go on me. Omix has been making these covers for a long time so I would think they should have it down pat by now. I will get the roof rack kit off BJ's thanks. I have a MSD dizzy, ready to run type with the MSD gear for the camshaft so I hope this all works and I have no gear wear problems like others I have read about. I have a Crown brand timing chain and sprocket kit and it's just the standard single row that they run in the later amc 360's. I am sure this will be fine as the engine is totally stock. When I remove my old camshaft timing sprocket I will take notice of the oil slots and grooves that supply oil to the camshaft gear and chain. Some of the after market stuff does not have them. Thanks again.
Where do I find the grounds for the tailgate? I spent this whole day installing fresh wires and rear switch, but it’s still soooo slow.. takes a couple of minutes to roll the window up or down.
I have a 79 Jeep Cherokee Chief. I swapped out the 360 for 350 GM and I need to convert the AC hoses. How do you get to the AC condenser on the inside?
I own a cherokee 80' and it won't start I've read about and replaced everything electrical or gone ggty it. Idk do really think hei distributor will cause it yo turn over. Because it just cranks but won't start???
I’m looking at an 81 with a 360 in it with 49k original miles on it. I’ve got him down to $700. It runs and drives , needs work and would be a project but I’m new to the Jeep wagoneer world but would love to have one! Thoughts on price is this a decent deal?
highely doubt its 49k original miles, odemeters back then went to 99k then reset back to 0 after 100k.. be very very skeptical with anything that doesnt have a 6 digit odometer man
Best I can say is to make sure there are no existing holes in the rear quart where tires can throw water up in the quarters. Also make sure they are not full of dirt and mud. Not much more I can think of. Good luck to you and just keep those rear quarters clean on the inside. Drew
Glad you didn't swap out for Fuel Injection see lot of restro getting 100k plus with fuel injection. The idea of a classic is at least keep it in the era of the time which means no computers everything is mechanical why change it.
We've done a number of Full size jeep restorations and used to work very closely with team grand wagoneer. Send me a PM on Facebook, Jersey Shore Fabricators and we'll see if we can help you.
Too bad that these became all but extinct about 20 years ago in Iowa. First rock salt and then the salt brine have finished most of them off around here.
These have increased in value exponentially since this vid. Now 30k is decent. I have a 87,88 and 89. Love em!!! No rust!
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Dang man!! I thought I was the only one out here with three of these. I’ve got an 85, 87, and a 91. Best vehicles I’ve ever had!
I just got my new '77 Cherokee home this week and I can't wait to get started on it!
Awesome. I just acquired 79 Wagoneer , all Original.
So I'm as of this post, a few day new to the entire Jeep world.
Where are some good links and places to get some ideas like upgrade brakes, suspension concerns, as Mine has a tiny bit of steer wander, could use a couple dash knobs etc.
Ayeeee that's dope. Just got my 78 Chief and I'm currently ripping out the dash, wiring, and interior!
@@yafois988 BJ's Offroad is a good source for a lot of stuff...
One of the best down and dirty about the Wagoneer I've seen, thanks! Wish I had seen before I bought my 86. I'm a body guy, but probably should've passed on the one I bought from the rust. But, I love it.
I just bought a 75 Cherokee to restore. This video was helpful, thanks.
Gorgeous jeep. Great video
Have possibly one of the rarest SJ's, sitting on my driveway, here in the UK. AMC tried to have dealerships in Europe for about 5 years ('79-'83?) before quitting and going home. Not many of the Jeeps sold here during that time still exist, unfortunately.
Most of the SJ's were converted to RHD by cutting the steering column under the dash, moving the top half to the right side and running a chain drive under the dash.
The one on my driveway had the proper conversion, steering box, brake booster, column, etc all moved to the right side.
In addition, as it is an '83, it has the aluminium bumpers, not the nasty chrome plated steel bumpers that peeled and flaked off.
As far as i can tell, it's the only Cherokee still registered with the DVLA (UK DMV) for that year.
Roof is fubar, but pretty much everything from the rain gutters down is in great shape. The floor pans are amazingly good, for instance.
Just have to find someone who can rebuild the roof, and patch a couple other holes (fender, tailgate). Not an easy thing to do, over here, as no one wants to take it on (without a lottery win first)
I love the Wagoneers without the fake wood stickers on the outside.
Excellent truck.
Wagoneers are the Bees Knees!!!
Still my dream car😍😍😍
I miss my 70 wagoneer had the 360 auto d20 case. Bought a 78 wagoneer with 401 was planning to 401 my 70. But it ended up in a 79 cj man was that thing scary fast
very good video
Very nice !!! Keep it up and thanks all the infos.
Greets
Frank
4dr with 2dr flares nice!
“Don’t tells thieves that” hahaha
I've canned peas and brought peas in a can but never seen them grow in an orchard.
Great info!
+CKDezines Thanks! Stay tuned for more videos with Drew!
gracias por colaborar
Wow
I'd like to have a 1975 to 1978 Jeep wagoneer with a rebuilt 318 engine with a Edelbrock intake & Holley 4 barrel carb.
Dam....you're a Catahoula man too. LOL
We naver has issues with a prestolight or mo turd craft ignition systems but when i put a 360 in my cj7 the ford system took a dump on me. The hei is the best money ive ever spent. Jeeps never ran better with that 360.
Any tips to tighten the steering? My Wagoneer with 4 inch lift sways at 50mph, bump steers
So, I just bought an 88 grand wagoneer thats in pretty good shape cosmetically. But its really got me stumped. First of all, it wont idle most of the time. However sometimes out of the blue it will idle just fine, but most of the time it just dies unless theres constant pressure on the throttle. Took it to a mechanic after driving it home and he discovered someone had removed the pcv valve and capped it off. So I bought the valve and installed it with a new pcv hose as well. Unfortunatly it didnt make much of a difference. I know the valve is working because I ran the car with a business card on top of the oil filler hole to make sure its actually sucking air in, not blowing out. On top of this Ive been finding oil in the air cleaner, which is a really bad sign. But ive pulled the spark plugs and they are all dry with no evidence of bad rings. Im thinking the idle issue is probably a vacume leak somewhere but I feel like it could be connected to the blow by somehow. After driving the jeep 2 miles today. I discovered a white substance in the air cleaner coming directly from the oil cap hose. This doesnt make sense since its still sucking air DOWN the oil filler hole, not up(i did the test again to make sure). It seems like the engine has "blow by" sometimes, but not always, as if the pvc valve only works half the time. I tried to join the Ifsja forum a few weeks ago to ask for advice there but it still wont let me post anything. Like it says above im stumped. Anyone know of a forum I can join that will actually let me ask questions? Any help is appreciated.
check out fsjnetwork.com -- those guys are great to answer and help new FSJ owners. I speak from experience ;)
Brian B. thanks for the tip, Ive found some useful disgrams on there. Just posted on there earlier.
Caleb Woodard check the egr valve. The diaphragm is probably stuck on it. Mine had similar issue. It's sending too much exhaust gas in the intake. Easy to change out.
7 yrs ago... is it finished?
Looks like a grand wagoneer to me.
What is that beautiful intro song?
AMC Metallic Blue is pre 74. AMC Blue FLAT is period correct for this year.
LOVE it. I've got a 78 and a 91.
question: where in the WORLD can i get another rear window washer assembly? feels like i'm searching for a unicorn horn..
We have a 67 fsj. Doesnt leak a drop. But we have universal moldings that are too thick so it doesnt leak but you jave to slam the doors and all the body lines dont line up
have you tried adjusting the doors (hinges / strikers)?
@@rustyjeep2469 seals are too thick due to the universal moldings.
What i wanna know is how do you guys know for sure a vehicle has 52k miles, when dashes only went to 99,999 before they clocked over back to 0, ive seen alot of older Jeeps with 30-40-50-60k miles. But that doesnt mean they werent 130-140-150k miles ect
A person who knows cars can tell if it has that many miles- gas pedal, brake pedal under the vehicle-frame, pans. Let me ask you this. Could you spot which door knob had 1000 turns from one that had 100 from thr way the paint was rubbed and wood was worn away from the general area?
@@poppaluv floor pans and frame and so forth wont show the mileage.. i can bring you a car with 100k miles from west virginia and itll look like it has 300k miles.. And my 98 zj 315k mile looks like it has 100k mile. please. I have a wagoneer with 112k when i got it, but it looks like it has double the miles due to the rust and wear on everything.
@@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305 Well i don't know what to tell you. There are things to look for. I have been buying and restoring cars since 1986. No car with 50k miles will have an interior of a 300k car. Neither will the engine bay and the parts that make up the engine compartment. Things will be tight and not loose, there will not be wear, do you know how to do a compression test? A 50k engine will show a bit differently than one with well over 100k.
Is that Schwinn sign from Pats bicycle shop in Norwalk Ca?
Hey Drew, I recently found your channel and really liking the theme of what your doing on it.
I recently acquired (5 years ago) an original (unmolested) '79 Super Chief thats yellow with black accents and I have had a difficult time finding info on these Chiefs. I've only seen 5 others across the country while online doing research and wondering if you could point me in the direction of gathering more info about these models.
What I know so far is that they were a California only package that was completed by the dealer but factory sponsored. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
they were a dealer modified wagoneer (if yours has the wide track fenders) done by Brian chachua and AMC jeep dealer. There are some picas of the super chiefs he sold here and there on the internet.
Dealing with another are fsj. Starting a cj10 turbo diesel project need all help I can get.
Wish I could send you my 81 Cherokee chief to rebuild. Lol
what is the song in the beginning?
Drew uses a 3m woodgrain vinyl sticker called di-noc.
Heres a question. Is it worth buying a 77 Wagoneer but it had a chevy 350 swap
Yes does it run what is the drive train like and bring it to me
Hello, I am looking at a 1986 jeep wagoneer, with 180k miles. Looks to be in great shape, but I'm worried about the miles. What you say that's too many? Also, how reliable are these cars? I'm just wanting one for a fun second car.
That's hard to answer. I usually stay below 130k miles. But if the jeep is in REALLY good shape or very rare I will go above that number.
Hope this helps
Drew
greetings from venezuela friend I had a van of this when I bought it had the 5.2L engine dodge with its 727 transmission, I had to fix the engine was not worth fixing it I went to the importer and I bought a 5.2L model new magnum jeep grand cherokee and dodge ram with ses engine and the same transmission 727 that mid-sized truck stepped on the accelerator and punctured rubber and unintentionally jejeje a lot of strength had that truck with that engine pity that did not take a picture would have shown it as it had more where the impeccable engine goes here in Venezuela most of these jeep have the 5.2L engine 318 in transmission 727 and 518.
G' day, thanks for doing a little show on the FSJ. I live in NSW Australia and have a 1984 FSJ 4 door wagon with a 360,727 with 170 '000 km,s on the clock. Australia is metric. I m not. Can you please keep up on the restoration on your wagon and do some product testing and evaluations on aftermarket products please if you can. I mean things like window, door seals, lenses and timing covers. I am up to doing the timing cover on my 360 but can't make my mind up on who is the best cover. Bulltear, omix, indy, proform. I don't want to get a bad one sent to me in Australia. Can you do a reseal of the factory fitted roof racks I see I can get a seal, gasket kit for it. Thanks.
Afternoon Benjamin,
Hopefully we can do more videos in the future. I have done new door seals and lots of parts you mentioned. Resealing the roof rack is very easy. I usually buy the gasket kit from BJ's Offroad. Once I remove the rack itself, I usually use a "dab" of RTV sealer on each bolt and with the new gasket set, it seals up just fine. As for the timing cover, I usually go with a Crown unit. I do like the Bulltear ones also. They make a wonderful oil pump "midplate" and spring set to bring oil pressure back up in higher mileage AMC motors. But I do believe that in a basically "stockish" AMC motor the crown one is perfect. I also used the crown Matched Distributor gear and Timing gear set just this week. Worked great.
Thanks for your complements and keep the questions coming, Happy to answer them.
DREW
The Jeep Farm, LLC
Hi Drew, thanks for getting back to me on my questions. My 360 has very good oil pressure but the cover is corroded where the coolant flows through to the block. It has been welded up before in this area so I don't want to take the risk of it letting go on me. Omix has been making these covers for a long time so I would think they should have it down pat by now. I will get the roof rack kit off BJ's thanks. I have a MSD dizzy, ready to run type with the MSD gear for the camshaft so I hope this all works and I have no gear wear problems like others I have read about. I have a Crown brand timing chain and sprocket kit and it's just the standard single row that they run in the later amc 360's. I am sure this will be fine as the engine is totally stock. When I remove my old camshaft timing sprocket I will take notice of the oil slots and grooves that supply oil to the camshaft gear and chain. Some of the after market stuff does not have them. Thanks again.
What would a guy expect to pay for one of your driver Wagoneers? Typical range?
What's that mount the Jerry can is on in the back? Can't tell if it's part of the tire carrier or something else
Where do I find the grounds for the tailgate?
I spent this whole day installing fresh wires and rear switch, but it’s still soooo slow.. takes a couple of minutes to roll the window up or down.
I have a 79 Jeep Cherokee Chief. I swapped out the 360 for 350 GM and I need to convert the AC hoses. How do you get to the AC condenser on the inside?
have you restored any 76 wagoneers?
I own a cherokee 80' and it won't start I've read about and replaced everything electrical or gone ggty it.
Idk do really think hei distributor will cause it yo turn over. Because it just cranks but won't start???
Need to verify you have power to the distributor. If you do, the module inside the distributor may be fried.
My best hope this helps
DREW
I’m looking at an 81 with a 360 in it with 49k original miles on it. I’ve got him down to $700. It runs and drives , needs work and would be a project but I’m new to the Jeep wagoneer world but would love to have one! Thoughts on price is this a decent deal?
If it isnt completely rusted out, 700 is a very fair entry point
highely doubt its 49k original miles, odemeters back then went to 99k then reset back to 0 after 100k.. be very very skeptical with anything that doesnt have a 6 digit odometer man
What would you guys suggest for keeping water out of the rear quarter panels so it wont rust?
Best I can say is to make sure there are no existing holes in the rear quart where tires can throw water up in the quarters. Also make sure they are not full of dirt and mud.
Not much more I can think of. Good luck to you and just keep those rear quarters clean on the inside.
Drew
JeepTruck.com
would it be a bad choice to close off the drain holes(bed liner)?No rust, really bad going down dirt roads though.
As long as u keep an eye on the rear quarters and make sure water isn't in there. Close them up.
Alright sounds good, Thank you!
Glad you didn't swap out for Fuel Injection see lot of restro getting 100k plus with fuel injection. The idea of a classic is at least keep it in the era of the time which means no computers everything is mechanical why change it.
Wagoner over land
I have a 1978 jeep Cherokee cheif i want to restore it. Has not been running since 2007
We've done a number of Full size jeep restorations and used to work very closely with team grand wagoneer. Send me a PM on Facebook, Jersey Shore Fabricators and we'll see if we can help you.
How did you make/where did you find the rear tire carrier? If you made it, do you have a guide?
That is an old Valley tire carrier. Made by Valley in the late 70's. Found it on craigslist couple years ago.
Good luck on your search. -Drew
Where do you get all your parts
Spare part of body
Where do you have the best luck finding parts for fsj.
Facebook full size jeep group, FSJnetwork om the web, BJs off road.
where did you get your 4in lift?
what muffler is on the jeep
lookin for 78 wagoneer for handicap popup camper
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Anyone have a 86 grill for sale?
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Too bad that these became all but extinct about 20 years ago in Iowa. First rock salt and then the salt brine have finished most of them off around here.
Winters and road salt did in alot of Wagoneers in eastern Canada as well.
That's the case throughout 99% of the midwest.
Pee can farm?
its my southern accent.. peecan!! LOL
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