Hey everyone! Loved getting to update everyone on the studio. Thank you Andrew! If anyone is interesting in talking Atmos, Dutch & Dutch, Mixing, Studio Design, hit me up!
Dutch and dutch best monitors I've ever heard by a mile, when properly configured to your room. Bought a pair after listening for 10 minutes. You hear music in a new way, no exaggeration.
Being the age I am and after watching your TH-cam channel, I am even more amazed at how The Beatles were able to record the songs they did in basically a big box of a room with a 4 track mixer.
Im just not sure if the phantom center works. 1st its the biggest difference from stereo to surround (5.1, 7.1. atmos). Just the dedicated center changes things not just for having "center" kind of sound. but the fact that its not playing from left and right and your processing the center not with left and right. The headroom is way different, bandwith is different phase is different .But hey if he likes it, then kudos. But for surround and going to atmos, I think the center is a very important thing, not just for having a sound coming from the center. audio that will clip with with just phantom center wont clip if it is sent directly to the center channel as its not sharing the dynamic range available to the left and right. But damn! that room sounds greats even on youtube.
Yuuup! Talk to anyone that has been working in surround formats for a while and they'll tell you the LCR is not the place to skimp. Center is important for many reasons.
What a dream rig. I'm a big fan of Dante, and plan to use it extensively in the future. Love your work, Warren. Thanks for giving us a glimpse into your space!
Hello Andrew thanks for the headsup on Sweetwater. I have known about them for seventeen years I believe it was but didn't know they are working used equipment now. Good show thanks.
Hey, I think that would be great to see. In my opinion, the priorites to upgrade are what tell you the truth. Acoustic treatment first (making your own is cheapr and more effective), then Monitors or great headphones, D/A conversion, Microphones/Preamps. Everything after that are just suplemental upgrades. And save up to get what you really want/need/works best for your space. And then, over time, you upgrade the next weakest links
I don't feel like music by bands or recording artists are the medium for atmos. It's already going there, but it seems like surround mixing is more geared towards video games and VR experiences. I think there's a lot of mixers trying to adopt this early because once we figure out the main channel that consumers are going to be wanting this experience, it's going to be a huge cash cow.
Really like the ‘built in’ look of the room - everything looks like it’s supposed to be apart of the room and not just panels hanging on the wall. Would be cool to see more updates on smaller home studios, see how they’ve changed over time!
sometimes all people see is the finished, one-time post of a studio. The journey and the tweaking is a real thing, and its so helpful to see what's important to people, how opinions change, what's worth keeping, what fat can be trimmed.
I did a listening test with Neuman, dutch & dutch & barefoot. Those dutch & dutch were super soft in the top end. I couldn't really hear definition up there. Good for long listening periods but when I heard the Neuman 420's, it was a no brainer for me.
Nice place! The biggest hurdle for ATMOS is 2x: the file sizes of the master are insane (mp4 alternate is total trash) and apple spatial is NOT where it needs to be in order to represent it anywhere close to what it actually sounds like in a room. Apple spatial is a phasey mess, at best. We'll see how the tech develops!
agreed!! hopefull PHRTF will get better and yes, a more accessible surround speaker situation will be nice. There are some mixes that work better than others for the sound.
This studio has such a wonderful vibe and feel. It has awesome, professional equipment in an environment that feels so comfortable. You could spend forever in there.
If you're in France or Switzerland and you're looking to listen to the Dutch&Dutch 8C, hit me up ! I'm happy to be salesman of those incredible speakers :)
@@RockmannMusic Independant measurements by Erin's Audio Corner are online. I don't see anything dramatic. Do you ? They're not the cleanest speakers you'll find, but every speaker has its pros and cons. The 8C have an uncomparable low-end for their price, a super homogeneous dispersion, boundary coupled bass, integrated room correction and other tricks that make it unbeatable in non-optimal environements. I dare you to find cardioid speakers (from 100Hz upwards) with such bottom end and at only 10k€.
@@BoringVic Metal cone driver as found in the D&D and high distortion figures are a NO for me [personal preference. I'm also not a fan of our Focal BE Beryilium tweeter]. The 8C might be good for someone with space issues . . but I do not need to find cardiod speakers for "only" 10K. I'm good with a set of way cleaner playing Faital Pro 18" subs [come at the price that they are washing machine sized]
@@RockmannMusic What you say is interesting. I never said there was such things as the perfect speaker that match everyone needs. Speaker design is just trade-offs. Compacity agains bass extension, sensitivity against power handling, beautiful design against better components... Your Faital subs may sound good, but they don't make for a compact system, don't they ? Also, their esthetics may not be the taste of everyone. And one sub don't get you stereo subs. The Dutch do produce stereo, all the way down to 20Hz. YOU may not need cardioid speakers, but other people might find it useful. The 8C probably sound better in a standard living room than an expensive pair of ATC SCM25 with Faital 18 subs. So please, don't ditch a speaker because of one flaw (even though this one you're pointing out is quite minimal IMHO). There's no speaker that is better than any other speakers in every aspect, both in terms of sound and other aspects (esthetic, price, compacity, durability, weight, etc.).
@@BoringVic In general do agree with you. I have "stereo" subs because it's a pair of them. Btw A "stereo" field isn't notable in sub frequencies but notable in the region from 120HZ or so [stereo sub frequencies/ a "stereo" sub bass/kick can also cause phase issues, so in a mix I would have everything below 100Hz in mono] . It's great having speakers with high air pressure in sub frequencies but most consumer speakers are not that linear in the sub region. Means someones perfect D&D speaker mix [or name your quality speaker brand] will translate with way lower [sub] bass on consumer speakers that are 12dB down at 30HZ.
you got it man, actually John Brandt is doing design for my studio, it's a lot of money and i could buy new monitors, but acoustic is very important & sound enginees does work on mixing etc... not acoustic. I already learn a lot from John, he's a very nice guy & love his work, i'll learn more from him and can't wait to start the design.
This place is just so spot on just right. So here´s a dream scenario: Flying in from Scandinavia half a continent and an ocean away to record my Euro-folk based operatic symphonic metal stuff at the "Andrew Masters Music Recording Studios Inc." :) Mixing it to perfection at Warren David´s. Mastering at Colt Capperrune´s. A power trio if I ever heard of one. Flying home to Scandinavia a week or two later to dupe everbody at home.... " You recorded it where?...." " Nashville, Tennessee... where else?..." Happy New Year everybody.
@@thewarrendavid Give me time to make the money for it. I´m a regular follower of Andrew´s so I´m not going anywhere. Could very well become a reality,- and a once in a lifetime adventure for me. :)
@@thewarrendavid I understand that, But when you mono the centre channel, it sounds different than having a dedicated centre channel.. Its not much an issue for music, but for TV/movie content its more important when most of the dialog is living on that channel and you need to keep the centre clean and separated from LR content.
@@drdelewded interesting. I haven't tried that. I haven't done much in the dialog/film/tv world. You're probably right. To be clear though, all channels in my DAPS and exports are 7.1.4 and in Atmos ADM format with a center. My monitoring is the only thing that makes it phantom.
I would love to see a studio that an electronic music producer uses. I know they might have less gear (results in a shorter video I guess) but would be really interesting to see what an electronic producer wants and needs in their studio
Happy New Year Everyone - Okay Andrew, it’s 2023 … when during this year are you going to bring in a CONSOLE and incorporate it into your hybrid setup? You know you want to!!!
I built them. But its super easy. Get Roxul60 and Pink R30 from your local insulation supply company, frame it with ripped 3/8" plywood, wrap and staple in breathable hopsack linen fabric, trim it with whatever material you'd like. 4"-8" thick is good for that stuff
not using a center speaker. I still deal with Center channel information (though mixes these days used less of it) by listening with a phantom center. so far, its translated really well without it. Dolby even tuned the room with the phantom center.
@@thewarrendavid I also never use my centre speaker for actual placement, only for ambiences, reverb beds and panning. Phantom centre has much better translation. But I still have a centre speaker and I couldn't see one in Warren's studio.
Dolby Atoms is the future, here in spain very few are doing it ,but thats where im heading little by little. As always incredible tour and epic atoms setup!!
@@RockmannMusic jajaj but they have headphone my friend and thats where this is heading, were not.tslking about people who can affors a toma system. But anybody can buy a good pair of headphones. As a musicians/producers ect ect we of course have the equipment to enjoy it at another level in are studios, but a typical kid or adult is going to listen to music on there airpods or headphones. Yes it the future of but not going to be for everyone. But as i said if you have a pir of headphones you are in the game. Not everyone will like it or understand it but once you have experienced it very hard to go back. As a dinasour in this field now (age brother) we either move with the flow and learn or we just conform, id rather learn and becone better at all aspects of the music industry. Yes it the future and its not expensive to experience it. 🤜🤛
@@RockmannMusic ahh and forgive my writing errors here in spain its almost 11pm late for me..hahah. but you are right on one thing not everyone is going to be able to afford a good atmos system in there house. Peace and keep the flow🤜🤛
@@shanegonzalezelindio4835 Hey Spanish friend. Just IMO: I think Atmos will have its place in games and movies or theme parks. In music productions I consider it rather gimmicky. I'm mixing from the audience perspective [as a "listener" means HHs to the right, haha] and see the band as a unit in front of me, so is the stereo spectrum. As a listener/mixer I don't want to put me in the band. I don' t want any instrument playing behind me or surrounding me, what's the point. It's wrong : ) Maybe Atmos makes sense for the"drawing by numbers" people who downloading complete loops and phrases from splice. Just to give this cocktail of boredom a bit of movement. I also understand that the music industry wants the new because it means fresh business . . which also includes lifting decades old productions into the new format. Greets to your pretty country
@@RockmannMusic I agree with you that in games and movies and theme parks that is norm, to a point it is gimmicky ;) BUT as a guitarist (flamenco)performer and instrumentalist i think for us it adds to the ambient surrounding that you can bring the audience into believe me having a voice coming from behind you or a violin is INSANE true its not for everybody and it EXPENSIVE top have a live set up. You are right about the stereo sound i like to see the band in front also it makes sense. As for SPLICE (which i don't use, i feel as a musician you can make you own loops HELL are generation invented it..hahah) but I'm guilty of using drum loops for some of my projects but then i add my own sauce and just cut them up..heheh., feel the same if the cocktail is well made it should be left alone..hehe. As for the industry that a whole other subject it has changed so much since the pandemic and MADE ARE CRAFT LOOK EASY and its not , yes there are some very talented young people out there BUT they have been doing it for a long time which many dont understand. Also the younger generation has been given all the tools sounds (loops) are generation invented to make there music. Yes soon all the old productiones will move it to that for money of course BUT if you dont have a ATOMS system in house you will be listening to everything on headphones and that is boring sometimes..heheh greeting to you also my friend, spain is pretty but i sure do miss the States alot.
Simplified his stereo, gets rid of some variables, gets rid of Trinnov, but then adds in Atmos to the picture? Yikes Trinnov seems like the best way to deal with all the variables, especially a stereo/atmos hybrid setup
Unfortunately, Atmos still isn't completely viable for music. In the right room, with the right treatment, and the right gear, it is outstanding. However, it is still cost prohibitive for a majority of the population on both sides, the mixing studio, and for consumer playback. Unfortunate, but true.
@@Sheriffvlogs True. As a matter of personal preference though, I am not captivated by any of the series of spatial audio formats through headphones. Both on the professional audio side, and the consumer side. But, especially on the consumer side, I feel it's not close to captivating enough, to be anything other than a gimmick or fad. But, that's just my personal opinion.
It's justified if $10k of gear brings in $100k in work, opening up capacities to serve more people. Its not for everyone, but it was right for me and the circles I run in in Nashville. I do woodworking as a hobby, should I buy Festool or a CNC router... no, probably not. My current workflow doesnt justify the purchase. All business is scalable.
What I don't understand is who Atmos is for? Is average Joe really going to bother with an Atmos system at home? Are people even watching movies or listening to music in "regular" surround sound any more? Hasn't audio history time and time again killed off any attempts to move away from the stereo experience? Aren't people in fact more and more listening to audio on some kind of summed mono device?
Atmos, headphones, binaural: "it's not quite there yet". I suspected that. After many trials. And it's today the MAIN problem with atmos as almost nobody have the money for 12 speakers and the room to put them in..
Hey everyone! Loved getting to update everyone on the studio. Thank you Andrew! If anyone is interesting in talking Atmos, Dutch & Dutch, Mixing, Studio Design, hit me up!
Looks great. Enjoy.
I love my 8Cs. I ended up buying them over a pair of ATCs and don’t regret it.
How much they want for those dutch monitors and if they got a affordable model
@@jmizzbeatsj-jigga7888 $13K a pair at vintage king.. and there is only the one model so far.. (with different finishes).. a single speaker is $7500
@@thewarrendavid thank you highly im save up for alil definitely be stopping back through soon 💜💜💜💯
Dutch and dutch best monitors I've ever heard by a mile, when properly configured to your room. Bought a pair after listening for 10 minutes. You hear music in a new way, no exaggeration.
He’s done it. He’s finally been to all the studios and is doing catch up episodes - I’m getting nostalgia of mid 00’s reality TV 🥹
You know it's bad when I do a tour of my own room.
Being the age I am and after watching your TH-cam channel, I am even more amazed at how The Beatles were able to record the songs they did in basically a big box of a room with a 4 track mixer.
With some of the best gear around and a wonderful combination of George Martin and Glyn Johns 😉
The studio is awesome and so is Warren!!
Thanks for the love!
Im just not sure if the phantom center works. 1st its the biggest difference from stereo to surround (5.1, 7.1. atmos). Just the dedicated center changes things not just for having "center" kind of sound. but the fact that its not playing from left and right and your processing the center not with left and right. The headroom is way different, bandwith is different phase is different .But hey if he likes it, then kudos. But for surround and going to atmos, I think the center is a very important thing, not just for having a sound coming from the center. audio that will clip with with just phantom center wont clip if it is sent directly to the center channel as its not sharing the dynamic range available to the left and right. But damn! that room sounds greats even on youtube.
Yeah, phantom center is a terrible idea for someone serious about doing atmos work. In my opinion at least.
Yuuup! Talk to anyone that has been working in surround formats for a while and they'll tell you the LCR is not the place to skimp. Center is important for many reasons.
Atmos mixing is really cool and underrated. It really opens up the world of 3D sound
What a dream rig. I'm a big fan of Dante, and plan to use it extensively in the future. Love your work, Warren. Thanks for giving us a glimpse into your space!
Starting off the year right lets goooooooo happy new year everyone
sick set up. I love how passionate he is about a pristine monitoring environment
Hello Andrew thanks for the headsup on Sweetwater. I have known about them for seventeen years I believe it was but didn't know they are working used equipment now. Good show thanks.
Hey Andrew! Could you maybe make a video about upgrading a beginner studio (interface computer monitors) like where to begin with upgrading.
Hey, I think that would be great to see. In my opinion, the priorites to upgrade are what tell you the truth. Acoustic treatment first (making your own is cheapr and more effective), then Monitors or great headphones, D/A conversion, Microphones/Preamps. Everything after that are just suplemental upgrades. And save up to get what you really want/need/works best for your space. And then, over time, you upgrade the next weakest links
@@thewarrendavid that’s some really good advice, thanks!
That's it... I need that sublime
Great review as always:)! Interesting layout of this beautiful and functional studio! Thank you...
I don't feel like music by bands or recording artists are the medium for atmos. It's already going there, but it seems like surround mixing is more geared towards video games and VR experiences. I think there's a lot of mixers trying to adopt this early because once we figure out the main channel that consumers are going to be wanting this experience, it's going to be a huge cash cow.
Really like the ‘built in’ look of the room - everything looks like it’s supposed to be apart of the room and not just panels hanging on the wall. Would be cool to see more updates on smaller home studios, see how they’ve changed over time!
Thanks Justin
sometimes all people see is the finished, one-time post of a studio. The journey and the tweaking is a real thing, and its so helpful to see what's important to people, how opinions change, what's worth keeping, what fat can be trimmed.
A tour of Benn Jordans studio would be really cool!
Good freaking monday yall
Coffee time
can you tell me where i can get the table with the display stands? i am looking for something like that. thank you.
I'd LOVE to know what stand you used for your computer screens....
I have that exact sublime chieftain deluxe. Sublime Guitars disappeared during the pandemic, its a shame.
I did a listening test with Neuman, dutch & dutch & barefoot. Those dutch & dutch were super soft in the top end. I couldn't really hear definition up there. Good for long listening periods but when I heard the Neuman 420's, it was a no brainer for me.
They must have been setup incorrectly or the reference material must have a soft top end, cause 8c's will punish you if the mix has too much top end.
Nice place! The biggest hurdle for ATMOS is 2x: the file sizes of the master are insane (mp4 alternate is total trash) and apple spatial is NOT where it needs to be in order to represent it anywhere close to what it actually sounds like in a room. Apple spatial is a phasey mess, at best. We'll see how the tech develops!
agreed!! hopefull PHRTF will get better and yes, a more accessible surround speaker situation will be nice. There are some mixes that work better than others for the sound.
LETS GOOOOOOOO
This studio has such a wonderful vibe and feel. It has awesome, professional equipment in an environment that feels so comfortable. You could spend forever in there.
If you're in France or Switzerland and you're looking to listen to the Dutch&Dutch 8C, hit me up ! I'm happy to be salesman of those incredible speakers :)
Awesome. So you'll show the bad distortion figures these speakers have as well [everything comes with a price]?
@@RockmannMusic Independant measurements by Erin's Audio Corner are online. I don't see anything dramatic. Do you ? They're not the cleanest speakers you'll find, but every speaker has its pros and cons. The 8C have an uncomparable low-end for their price, a super homogeneous dispersion, boundary coupled bass, integrated room correction and other tricks that make it unbeatable in non-optimal environements. I dare you to find cardioid speakers (from 100Hz upwards) with such bottom end and at only 10k€.
@@BoringVic Metal cone driver as found in the D&D and high distortion figures are a NO for me [personal preference. I'm also not a fan of our Focal BE Beryilium tweeter]. The 8C might be good for someone with space issues . . but I do not need to find cardiod speakers for "only" 10K. I'm good with a set of way cleaner playing Faital Pro 18" subs [come at the price that they are washing machine sized]
@@RockmannMusic What you say is interesting. I never said there was such things as the perfect speaker that match everyone needs. Speaker design is just trade-offs. Compacity agains bass extension, sensitivity against power handling, beautiful design against better components... Your Faital subs may sound good, but they don't make for a compact system, don't they ? Also, their esthetics may not be the taste of everyone. And one sub don't get you stereo subs. The Dutch do produce stereo, all the way down to 20Hz. YOU may not need cardioid speakers, but other people might find it useful. The 8C probably sound better in a standard living room than an expensive pair of ATC SCM25 with Faital 18 subs. So please, don't ditch a speaker because of one flaw (even though this one you're pointing out is quite minimal IMHO). There's no speaker that is better than any other speakers in every aspect, both in terms of sound and other aspects (esthetic, price, compacity, durability, weight, etc.).
@@BoringVic In general do agree with you. I have "stereo" subs because it's a pair of them. Btw A "stereo" field isn't notable in sub frequencies but notable in the region from 120HZ or so [stereo sub frequencies/ a "stereo" sub bass/kick can also cause phase issues, so in a mix I would have everything below 100Hz in mono] . It's great having speakers with high air pressure in sub frequencies but most consumer speakers are not that linear in the sub region. Means someones perfect D&D speaker mix [or name your quality speaker brand] will translate with way lower [sub] bass on consumer speakers that are 12dB down at 30HZ.
you got it man, actually John Brandt is doing design for my studio, it's a lot of money and i could buy new monitors, but acoustic is very important & sound enginees does work on mixing etc... not acoustic. I already learn a lot from John, he's a very nice guy & love his work, i'll learn more from him and can't wait to start the design.
Yes yes awesomeness love the videos
Love my DD8c , stunning speakers
best sound absorption I've seen on your videos, i want to see his room measurements
its around 14x19x10'. the bonnello curve was amazing. If people just build in their treatemnt and put A LOT of it in, you'll get a tight room
Rest in Peace John L Sayers. Enoumous loss to our community
This place is just so spot on just right.
So here´s a dream scenario:
Flying in from Scandinavia half a continent and an ocean away to record my Euro-folk based operatic symphonic metal stuff at the "Andrew Masters Music Recording Studios Inc." :)
Mixing it to perfection at Warren David´s.
Mastering at Colt Capperrune´s.
A power trio if I ever heard of one.
Flying home to Scandinavia a week or two later to dupe everbody at home....
" You recorded it where?...."
" Nashville, Tennessee... where else?..."
Happy New Year everybody.
come on, let's make it happen!!!
@@thewarrendavid
Give me time to make the money for it.
I´m a regular follower of Andrew´s so I´m not going anywhere.
Could very well become a reality,- and a once in a lifetime adventure for me. :)
I couldnt do Atmos without a centre speaker.. But I work in TV not music and the majority of dialog and narration is centre speaker.
the center channel information is there, its just folded into the stereo. so LCR is actually LR with a phantom center channel.
@@thewarrendavid I understand that, But when you mono the centre channel, it sounds different than having a dedicated centre channel.. Its not much an issue for music, but for TV/movie content its more important when most of the dialog is living on that channel and you need to keep the centre clean and separated from LR content.
@@drdelewded interesting. I haven't tried that. I haven't done much in the dialog/film/tv world. You're probably right. To be clear though, all channels in my DAPS and exports are 7.1.4 and in Atmos ADM format with a center. My monitoring is the only thing that makes it phantom.
Im turning my home into atoms mixing / playback with Dante running in each room. Its going to be insane !!! Going with the DAD Core 256.
DAD Core is a game changer
@@thewarrendavid Im already getting Dante certified!
I would love to see a studio that an electronic music producer uses. I know they might have less gear (results in a shorter video I guess) but would be really interesting to see what an electronic producer wants and needs in their studio
I've done a few, here's one I really enjoyed: th-cam.com/video/BUUzfOaDAGg/w-d-xo.html
Nice setup.
👍👍Sweetwater gear exchange.
Dope!!👍🏿
Happy New Year Everyone - Okay Andrew, it’s 2023 … when during this year are you going to bring in a CONSOLE and incorporate it into your hybrid setup? You know you want to!!!
👀
Second that!
Tour starts at 2:48
Would be nice to hear your impressions after listening to such a peculiar room
Great room and great research for your room. The bass traps are from which company?
I built them. But its super easy. Get Roxul60 and Pink R30 from your local insulation supply company, frame it with ripped 3/8" plywood, wrap and staple in breathable hopsack linen fabric, trim it with whatever material you'd like. 4"-8" thick is good for that stuff
Where can I find the 1st tour you did of this studio?
Search Epic Home Studio Warren David or The Arena Studio. Should be from end of 2020 or beginning of 2021.
I think Call Of Duty has a Perk named after guys like this Overkill
almost dropped the R word at 5:21 heh
Where's your centre speaker?
not using a center speaker. I still deal with Center channel information (though mixes these days used less of it) by listening with a phantom center. so far, its translated really well without it. Dolby even tuned the room with the phantom center.
@@thewarrendavid I also never use my centre speaker for actual placement, only for ambiences, reverb beds and panning. Phantom centre has much better translation. But I still have a centre speaker and I couldn't see one in Warren's studio.
Dolby Atoms is the future, here in spain very few are doing it ,but thats where im heading little by little. As always incredible tour and epic atoms setup!!
No, Atmos isn't the future for the general public. Most average households do not even have a proper Hifi system anymore
@@RockmannMusic jajaj but they have headphone my friend and thats where this is heading, were not.tslking about people who can affors a toma system. But anybody can buy a good pair of headphones. As a musicians/producers ect ect we of course have the equipment to enjoy it at another level in are studios, but a typical kid or adult is going to listen to music on there airpods or headphones. Yes it the future of but not going to be for everyone. But as i said if you have a pir of headphones you are in the game. Not everyone will like it or understand it but once you have experienced it very hard to go back. As a dinasour in this field now (age brother) we either move with the flow and learn or we just conform, id rather learn and becone better at all aspects of the music industry. Yes it the future and its not expensive to experience it. 🤜🤛
@@RockmannMusic ahh and forgive my writing errors here in spain its almost 11pm late for me..hahah. but you are right on one thing not everyone is going to be able to afford a good atmos system in there house. Peace and keep the flow🤜🤛
@@shanegonzalezelindio4835 Hey Spanish friend. Just IMO: I think Atmos will have its place in games and movies or theme parks. In music productions I consider it rather gimmicky. I'm mixing from the audience perspective [as a "listener" means HHs to the right, haha] and see the band as a unit in front of me, so is the stereo spectrum. As a listener/mixer I don't want to put me in the band. I don' t want any instrument playing behind me or surrounding me, what's the point. It's wrong : ) Maybe Atmos makes sense for the"drawing by numbers" people who downloading complete loops and phrases from splice. Just to give this cocktail of boredom a bit of movement. I also understand that the music industry wants the new because it means fresh business . . which also includes lifting decades old productions into the new format. Greets to your pretty country
@@RockmannMusic I agree with you that in games and movies and theme parks that is norm, to a point it is gimmicky ;) BUT as a guitarist (flamenco)performer and instrumentalist i think for us it adds to the ambient surrounding that you can bring the audience into believe me having a voice coming from behind you or a violin is INSANE true its not for everybody and it EXPENSIVE top have a live set up. You are right about the stereo sound i like to see the band in front also it makes sense.
As for SPLICE (which i don't use, i feel as a musician you can make you own loops HELL are generation invented it..hahah) but I'm guilty of using drum loops for some of my projects but then i add my own sauce and just cut them up..heheh., feel the same if the cocktail is well made it should be left alone..hehe.
As for the industry that a whole other subject it has changed so much since the pandemic and MADE ARE CRAFT LOOK EASY and its not , yes there are some very talented young people out there BUT they have been doing it for a long time which many dont understand.
Also the younger generation has been given all the tools sounds (loops) are generation invented to make there music.
Yes soon all the old productiones will move it to that for money of course BUT if you dont have a ATOMS system in house you will be listening to everything on headphones and that is boring sometimes..heheh greeting to you also my friend, spain is pretty but i sure do miss the States alot.
Dante the future...I hope so. I invested heavily into mLAN years ago and got left high and dry by Yamaha
Atmos and Spatial audio is the future 🙂
Simplified his stereo, gets rid of some variables, gets rid of Trinnov, but then adds in Atmos to the picture? Yikes
Trinnov seems like the best way to deal with all the variables, especially a stereo/atmos hybrid setup
I swear by my 8Cs
Unfortunately, Atmos still isn't completely viable for music. In the right room, with the right treatment, and the right gear, it is outstanding. However, it is still cost prohibitive for a majority of the population on both sides, the mixing studio, and for consumer playback. Unfortunate, but true.
U can do Atmos in headphones in Cubase.
@@Sheriffvlogs True. As a matter of personal preference though, I am not captivated by any of the series of spatial audio formats through headphones. Both on the professional audio side, and the consumer side. But, especially on the consumer side, I feel it's not close to captivating enough, to be anything other than a gimmick or fad. But, that's just my personal opinion.
Yeah I will just go ahead and drop 10 grand on studio monitors...
It's justified if $10k of gear brings in $100k in work, opening up capacities to serve more people. Its not for everyone, but it was right for me and the circles I run in in Nashville. I do woodworking as a hobby, should I buy Festool or a CNC router... no, probably not. My current workflow doesnt justify the purchase. All business is scalable.
What I don't understand is who Atmos is for? Is average Joe really going to bother with an Atmos system at home? Are people even watching movies or listening to music in "regular" surround sound any more? Hasn't audio history time and time again killed off any attempts to move away from the stereo experience? Aren't people in fact more and more listening to audio on some kind of summed mono device?
Atmos, headphones, binaural: "it's not quite there yet".
I suspected that. After many trials.
And it's today the MAIN problem with atmos as almost nobody have the money for 12 speakers and the room to put them in..
Personally I am not a fan of the Dolby Atmos audio. I do not like what it does to the kicks in hip hop music.
yo! andrew do you have a discord?