I cried at this part more though I did start to notice no one responded to him when he said something. The few times he came down to see us . Then I was thinking it’s was his spirit guiding rook .
The last game that left me so impacted by an ending full of plot twists and had me crying like a fool was Bioshock Infinite a long, long time ago. This Act 3 of Veilguard is pure cinema!
I also didnt notice that nobody directly interracted with Varric during my playthrough) Really good work they did there, firstly they made you think that he died in the beggining, then that he was injured but ok, but in the end - Varric was dead all that time. Really good and unexpected turn of events, good gaslighting from Bioware
I disagree. It was really sloppy. You’re telling me nobody in the group mentioned Varric at all? Rook never said anything to Harding while Varric was chilling in the infirmary? Nothing like hey, did you see Varric today? And Harding and Neve are never going to bring up Varric and Solas killing him? Really? It was heavily contrived writing. And then throw in another plot hole/ where is his body? Did they leave him there? Bury him? Dump him over the edge of the Lighthouse cliff? Was he vaporized in the ritual or worse case: blight food when Ghilain’nain passed through? It was a Sixth Sense plot twist and it didn’t work because of too many moving parts. It worked for the movie because the main characters were isolated and all dialogue done in a clever ambiguous way where it would work the first viewing and have more context the second. DAV writers lack the skill to pull it off.
@@maiafay I’m not sure if you’re so wrong here because you didn’t play the game or if you just really lack observational skills and simple memory. Everything you mentioned about other characters does happen. People mention Varric, Harding and Neve both talk about him like he’s dead. The language is just vague so the viewer can write it off as them referring to the injury. Your very first companion dialogue scene with Harding is her alone in her room crying. Neve literally says “and Varric paid the price.” Other companions clearly are talking about Varric as if they’ve never met him. Bellara literally uses his full name as if she’s never met him and he’s just a famous author she knows about. As for the body, that’s just sounding like you’re looking for plot holes where there aren’t any. Rook was severely injured and knocked out for days. Use your imagination for what the other 2 companions did to the body and pick whichever makes you happy. Bottom line is it doesn’t really matter. They had a dead, decaying corpse and clearly did something to it or left it behind in arlathan. Just because rook didn’t witness it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. That would defeat the purpose of the whole twist.
@@Xsorus I swear some people are either just looking for reasons to hate the game, never played the game, or are just genuinely low IQ. Like all these gamers who complain about “bad writing” when they haven’t read a book in their life lmao.
@@BBS-dl1ltBallara mentions that she never met varric after it was revealed that he is dead. Plus we meet Isabella and she has not one word about Varric. They definitely could have handled the twist better, like have varric actually leave his room. Rook talking to varric and someone asks who were you talking to.
It was a fun story and experience. It had it's flaws but still... Solavellan ending is what i needed, though my heart still can't let them go, i need time to heal... Thank you for your play through!
Rofl.... Imagine being a Grey Warden Warrior and me choosing Davrin thinking my buddy has got this only to watch his ass die..... I almost restarted the whole mission but decided against it.
Going back and watching you and other people finish the game after finishing it myself just cements for me how freaking good the ending is. I'm crying all over again. lol
Honestly kind of hilarious to watch her eat up Solas' stupid lies when he promises not to bring down the Veil himself. Like the critical thought just flew out the window
I didnt figure it out until the varric scene happen. Such a plot twist. It wasn't until after I realize no one ever interacted with varric or talk to him when rook was around him. Whatever conversation rook was having with varric would stop when one of your companions would enter. They did really well to throw us off from varric IMO. I ugly cried lol.
I think the post credits scene could work if they take the writing from the final act and make sure it’s consistent across a whole game - also they clarified in an article today the intentional word usage of “guided.” I think the main reason it’s not hitting with the rest of the fanbase is that it will take awhile for the final installment so there’s a wide array of interpretations as to what it could mean 🤷🏻♂️
Man, hate around this game can be suffocating sometimes, every single video is generally full of comments that must point out how bad one or the other aspect of the game is. I get it, I do not like it that much personally, however, the ending was good, no two ways about it, yes the rest of the game is underwhelming at best and outright offensive at worst, but still this ending, end to story of two games, is done well, choices you make have impact, and it's a more epic version of ME2 ending sequence, it's a same concept done in a more epic way.
There's no way I was trading Harding for a new sidekick and his pet. Losing Lace and Varric ("why is he always back here by himself?") both would have been far too too much to bear. Lace deserves to retire to a quiet cottage with Rook at the end of my story. Though I am rather peeved they had Assan just off himself over Davrin's death in my version. Thanks to Mythal, I got the good ending even though my Lavellan never romanced that bastard friend killer/mind rapist Solas.
I almost had the alternative view, though Harding wasn't my romance, it felt like a true close to the story in this chapter for Varric and Harding to be the ones lost.
Imagine how much better this ending could've been if they treated it like the fourth game in a series and had choices come into play, like the sentient darkspawn from awakening, hawke and their sibling, the hof and the inquisitor all showing up in a massive final battle while you pull a small group to save the day
Varric and Bianca this was the clearest message to Old Players. It was the bait. I couldnt play the game fir days because i got spoiled even befor it started.. Dragon Age is for new players now. I still am not done because i insist to have the solavelan ending, that much they deserve. But the hold Bioware had over me for years is broken. This was the last Dragon Age game for me. Veilquard is beautyfull but i am Free
It is also for the old players, it all depends on one's preferences and priorities. Because, for example, I am an old player, and I loved this DA game even though it is not what I imagined. Glad that you are free now of this hold, but sad it is because of disappointment, as I got it
I didn't like how they handled Varric. Harding would have for sure brought up Varric's death and they would have had a funeral for him. They tried to cheap out with some b.s. dialogue about everyone knowing except you.
It was a good experience because of the steamer. Always a joy and pleasure...but the game was not it. The last segment's swelling moments did not cover the rest of the game. It only showed that it was relying heavily on returning characters, and hinted at something we could have gotten: a game that truly referenced the player's choices in the previous game. Personally, the game and fighting style is not for me. It's too busy and button smashy, but I totally understand those who do enjoy it. However, no matter what the characters, plot, and writing really dropped the ball and I'm personally saddened that Han Zimmer and the director tried to make the end this big climatic moment as if they earned the sadness they tried to pull. It didn't earn it for me.
The final scenes were a lot of trevor morris' work though, that was mixed and edited about. It wasn't zimmer's. Especially the lost elf and inquisiton bits of course
@@x_rhi_x2772hans zimmer is the recurring theme through this whole game. Not sure why they’re making it sound like it only played at the end lol. Especially when the ending this streamer opted for is the one that uses Trevor morris music lol.
I disagree. While Varrics death and Solas resolution are a big emotional hit, the death of your companion and the stakes in a suicide mission are complemented with the bond with your companions. The only previous character that actually moved the story forward is Solas as one of the Gods and he is imprisioned for 95 per cent of the game.The third act feels earned,but well different opinions i guess.
@@juniorld6141 It completely depends if you ended up liking the companions or not, which I did not. It was just so sad to go from a story like Cullen who delt with things such as addiction, whom you wanted to see improve, to having multiple cafe cut scenes about hot chocolate, flowers, and trivial things that felt PERSONALLY more forced than anything.
Bioware learned nothing with Andromeda. Those cliffhangers dont work, the game flops and they dont explain shit. This post-credit scene its an afront to the series. When i saw this lost myself. This is fucked up.
Just finished it and the ending, while being the best part of the whole game, made me even more dissapointed in Veilguard. Potential was enourmous and you can see glimpses of it at the very last mission but ending alone can't carry an overall extremely mediocre game
you really didn't realize varrick was dead? it was obvious you understand it after 1 hour of play. it is generally very badly made from a directorial point of view
@@geraltGalleg0s ahahhahaha. but what are you saying varick never talks to anyone. everyone ignores him when they talk. talking to anyone they all understood it. you have to be a bit dumb not to understand it
cope for real. The game is about regret. And denial. Yes alot of people got it. I did understand right away. But i still was very sad about how my rook was so lost in all his feeling and solas manipulation. And alot of people didnt get it, they had doubt and the game made them sure to doubt! It was a really nice scenario card they pulled out.
@@rodhgaralto Yes this is made on purpose to indicate people the truth. But some people are in denial because varric is a beloved character. Its how grief work. Oh god rodh you are such big brain , genius wp, you can go even go suck your own pp now
Morrigan's back must hurt after carrying Thedas from the shadows for 20 years.
I cried at this part more though I did start to notice no one responded to him when he said something. The few times he came down to see us . Then I was thinking it’s was his spirit guiding rook .
A Dragon Age 5 ? I said yes oh fucking yes !
The last game that left me so impacted by an ending full of plot twists and had me crying like a fool was Bioshock Infinite a long, long time ago. This Act 3 of Veilguard is pure cinema!
I also didnt notice that nobody directly interracted with Varric during my playthrough) Really good work they did there, firstly they made you think that he died in the beggining, then that he was injured but ok, but in the end - Varric was dead all that time. Really good and unexpected turn of events, good gaslighting from Bioware
I disagree. It was really sloppy. You’re telling me nobody in the group mentioned Varric at all? Rook never said anything to Harding while Varric was chilling in the infirmary? Nothing like hey, did you see Varric today? And Harding and Neve are never going to bring up Varric and Solas killing him? Really? It was heavily contrived writing. And then throw in another plot hole/ where is his body? Did they leave him there? Bury him? Dump him over the edge of the Lighthouse cliff? Was he vaporized in the ritual or worse case: blight food when Ghilain’nain passed through?
It was a Sixth Sense plot twist and it didn’t work because of too many moving parts. It worked for the movie because the main characters were isolated and all dialogue done in a clever ambiguous way where it would work the first viewing and have more context the second. DAV writers lack the skill to pull it off.
@@maiafay I’m not sure if you’re so wrong here because you didn’t play the game or if you just really lack observational skills and simple memory. Everything you mentioned about other characters does happen. People mention Varric, Harding and Neve both talk about him like he’s dead. The language is just vague so the viewer can write it off as them referring to the injury. Your very first companion dialogue scene with Harding is her alone in her room crying. Neve literally says “and Varric paid the price.” Other companions clearly are talking about Varric as if they’ve never met him. Bellara literally uses his full name as if she’s never met him and he’s just a famous author she knows about.
As for the body, that’s just sounding like you’re looking for plot holes where there aren’t any. Rook was severely injured and knocked out for days. Use your imagination for what the other 2 companions did to the body and pick whichever makes you happy. Bottom line is it doesn’t really matter. They had a dead, decaying corpse and clearly did something to it or left it behind in arlathan. Just because rook didn’t witness it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. That would defeat the purpose of the whole twist.
@@BBS-dl1lt This guy gets it
@@Xsorus I swear some people are either just looking for reasons to hate the game, never played the game, or are just genuinely low IQ. Like all these gamers who complain about “bad writing” when they haven’t read a book in their life lmao.
@@BBS-dl1ltBallara mentions that she never met varric after it was revealed that he is dead. Plus we meet Isabella and she has not one word about Varric. They definitely could have handled the twist better, like have varric actually leave his room. Rook talking to varric and someone asks who were you talking to.
Only thing that would’ve made Varric’s death even sadder is if he said Hawke right before he died instead of Rook
It was a fun story and experience. It had it's flaws but still... Solavellan ending is what i needed, though my heart still can't let them go, i need time to heal... Thank you for your play through!
solavellan best ending
Rofl.... Imagine being a Grey Warden Warrior and me choosing Davrin thinking my buddy has got this only to watch his ass die..... I almost restarted the whole mission but decided against it.
I also had the same reaction on Varric, I was like.... wtf
Wait till you realize that whenever Varric talks none of the companions look at him like they do with each other.
Going back and watching you and other people finish the game after finishing it myself just cements for me how freaking good the ending is. I'm crying all over again. lol
I literally got this with Harding in my playthrough and i romanced her i was both pissed and crushed at the same time.
Honestly kind of hilarious to watch her eat up Solas' stupid lies when he promises not to bring down the Veil himself. Like the critical thought just flew out the window
Glad you played the full game!
I didnt figure it out until the varric scene happen. Such a plot twist. It wasn't until after I realize no one ever interacted with varric or talk to him when rook was around him. Whatever conversation rook was having with varric would stop when one of your companions would enter. They did really well to throw us off from varric IMO. I ugly cried lol.
Every time she said high five I smacked tf out of my phone
not me balling my eyes out at the ending!
Great job finishing Dragon Age!
whaaat this inquisitors voice is so much more emotional at the end than the other one 😭 sounds like her voice breaks 😭😭
This mission is great, reminds me alot of suicide mission on me2
I think the post credits scene could work if they take the writing from the final act and make sure it’s consistent across a whole game - also they clarified in an article today the intentional word usage of “guided.” I think the main reason it’s not hitting with the rest of the fanbase is that it will take awhile for the final installment so there’s a wide array of interpretations as to what it could mean 🤷🏻♂️
Act 3 is amazing!
Man, hate around this game can be suffocating sometimes, every single video is generally full of comments that must point out how bad one or the other aspect of the game is.
I get it, I do not like it that much personally, however,
the ending was good, no two ways about it, yes the rest of the game is underwhelming at best and outright offensive at worst, but still this ending, end to story of two games, is done well, choices you make have impact, and it's a more epic version of ME2 ending sequence, it's a same concept done in a more epic way.
This is the only character I’ve seen that looks so good in the mass effect gear.
There's no way I was trading Harding for a new sidekick and his pet. Losing Lace and Varric ("why is he always back here by himself?") both would have been far too too much to bear. Lace deserves to retire to a quiet cottage with Rook at the end of my story. Though I am rather peeved they had Assan just off himself over Davrin's death in my version. Thanks to Mythal, I got the good ending even though my Lavellan never romanced that bastard friend killer/mind rapist Solas.
I almost had the alternative view, though Harding wasn't my romance, it felt like a true close to the story in this chapter for Varric and Harding to be the ones lost.
why is davrin just a sidekick lmfao what
Imagine how much better this ending could've been if they treated it like the fourth game in a series and had choices come into play, like the sentient darkspawn from awakening, hawke and their sibling, the hof and the inquisitor all showing up in a massive final battle while you pull a small group to save the day
im glad you liked it
The American voice actress on an elf is a little cursed😅😭
No victory without sacrifice...
Ребят подскажите что за трек в начале субтитров, голос просто шикарный как и музыка
1:19:09 just for me to come look back at the cool cutscenes
Act 3 is phenomenal and the ending was amazing. ♥♥♥
i was a knife ear in origins, and in inquisition and this game. ouch.... but the varric part hit me hard as well.
You had the same exact reaction as me at the end. I was so overwhelmed and happy and sobbing 🥹😭
omg i see you're a woman of culture romancing emmrich
I recommend The Walking Dead by Telltale Games (i think theyre called Skybound Games now)
wait, you speak portugues???! '--'
She is from Brazil.
YOU NEVER PLAYED KOTOR? This is a character flaw.
Almost missed out on this game because of all the anti “woke” reviews everywhere 🙄
Varric and Bianca this was the clearest message to Old Players. It was the bait. I couldnt play the game fir days because i got spoiled even befor it started.. Dragon Age is for new players now. I still am not done because i insist to have the solavelan ending, that much they deserve. But the hold Bioware had over me for years is broken. This was the last Dragon Age game for me. Veilquard is beautyfull but i am Free
Even now i cant rant - i had too many wonderful hours in Dragon age games. I still cry though.
It is also for the old players, it all depends on one's preferences and priorities. Because, for example, I am an old player, and I loved this DA game even though it is not what I imagined. Glad that you are free now of this hold, but sad it is because of disappointment, as I got it
Nobody fucking cares. This game is for DA fans so fuck off if you don’t like it but stop pretending that you were betrayed.
😢😢😢 Дорогая автор, я плакала вместе с вами, очень грустная миссия была, тяжёлая 😐😥😥😥
I didn't like how they handled Varric. Harding would have for sure brought up Varric's death and they would have had a funeral for him. They tried to cheap out with some b.s. dialogue about everyone knowing except you.
It probably happened offscreen because Rook was hallucinating him alive all this time.
It was a good experience because of the steamer. Always a joy and pleasure...but the game was not it. The last segment's swelling moments did not cover the rest of the game. It only showed that it was relying heavily on returning characters, and hinted at something we could have gotten: a game that truly referenced the player's choices in the previous game. Personally, the game and fighting style is not for me. It's too busy and button smashy, but I totally understand those who do enjoy it.
However, no matter what the characters, plot, and writing really dropped the ball and I'm personally saddened that Han Zimmer and the director tried to make the end this big climatic moment as if they earned the sadness they tried to pull. It didn't earn it for me.
The final scenes were a lot of trevor morris' work though, that was mixed and edited about. It wasn't zimmer's. Especially the lost elf and inquisiton bits of course
@@x_rhi_x2772hans zimmer is the recurring theme through this whole game. Not sure why they’re making it sound like it only played at the end lol. Especially when the ending this streamer opted for is the one that uses Trevor morris music lol.
@@x_rhi_x2772 Good to know! Thanks! How could you tell the breakdown of who did what?
I disagree. While Varrics death and Solas resolution are a big emotional hit, the death of your companion and the stakes in a suicide mission are complemented with the bond with your companions. The only previous character that actually moved the story forward is Solas as one of the Gods and he is imprisioned for 95 per cent of the game.The third act feels earned,but well different opinions i guess.
@@juniorld6141 It completely depends if you ended up liking the companions or not, which I did not. It was just so sad to go from a story like Cullen who delt with things such as addiction, whom you wanted to see improve, to having multiple cafe cut scenes about hot chocolate, flowers, and trivial things that felt PERSONALLY more forced than anything.
Bioware learned nothing with Andromeda. Those cliffhangers dont work, the game flops and they dont explain shit. This post-credit scene its an afront to the series. When i saw this lost myself. This is fucked up.
Just finished it and the ending, while being the best part of the whole game, made me even more dissapointed in Veilguard. Potential was enourmous and you can see glimpses of it at the very last mission but ending alone can't carry an overall extremely mediocre game
please put this game in the trash already
wait .... you never played kotor ? one of the best games ?
you really didn't realize varrick was dead? it was obvious you understand it after 1 hour of play. it is generally very badly made from a directorial point of view
No, it wasn't, Mr. Know It All
@@geraltGalleg0s ahahhahaha. but what are you saying varick never talks to anyone. everyone ignores him when they talk. talking to anyone they all understood it. you have to be a bit dumb not to understand it
@@geraltGalleg0sharving tells you he died after 1 hour 😂😂😂
cope for real. The game is about regret. And denial. Yes alot of people got it. I did understand right away. But i still was very sad about how my rook was so lost in all his feeling and solas manipulation.
And alot of people didnt get it, they had doubt and the game made them sure to doubt!
It was a really nice scenario card they pulled out.
@@rodhgaralto Yes this is made on purpose to indicate people the truth.
But some people are in denial because varric is a beloved character.
Its how grief work.
Oh god rodh you are such big brain , genius wp, you can go even go suck your own pp now
🤮🤮🤮