@@neilmcdougall4927 Man up and start holding the stick. That's what I did, lol. Saved my last employer 8 figures annually and got let go after finishing the project early. Never again! Started my own company, and we've been growing 400% YoY since then. If you bet on yourself, even if you lose, you still win since you learned so much. So, is it even a loss? I work for myself, and the sky is the limit. Strip away the power employers have, and what's left? Nothing. It's a grind, and I work 15+ hours usually. But I'd never give it up. I feel fulfilled; unlike a job, you have full control over your income. So, if you don't like how much you're making, you can go double it! No need to wait for a BS 2% raise at the end of the year.
It is laughable for employers to blame current job market trends on an entire generation. Its evident that these issues have been building for longer than the 'problem' generation has even been alive
I’m surprised you think they care. Companies will hire whatever seems to be best to hire or whatever consultants tell them to do. I’ve met people with petroleum engineering degrees who graduated during oil busts when companies were laying off who NEVER got a petroleum engineering job even when companies were complaining they needed them a few years later. They instead bid up huge amounts to get recent grads while ignoring guys who had graduated years earlier and took other jobs in the meantime.
It’s not Gen Z. It’s these employers. They want unicorns for low wages. It’s difficult to be excited to go to work when you are being paid peanuts, loyalty means nothing anymore, and you can be laid off at any second. I (1980 Gen X) was laid off in August and have applied to 80+ jobs, mostly entry level, because the demands of these job postings are insane. They are so specific and picky, what they want doesn’t exist! Got another rejection yesterday. They said that my qualifications and skills aligned, but unfortunately they were “unable to meet my compensation expectations”. My desired salary was listed at $18/hr, and I was willing to negotiate that. I now am interviewing for a 4-6m contract position with a different company that pays $12-15/hr, with no benefits. I’m running out of money and I’m desperate, so I’m going to take it. That being said, I was making $14/hr back in 2004. I never thought I’d still be taking pay cuts of this magnitude 20 years later.
I believe these employers are doing impossible demands on purpose so that they have unfilled positions on purpose and can say they can’t find any U.S citizens for the role. As the requirements to hire a foreigner on H1B1 visa are strict. They can only do so if they can’t find a U.S. citizen.
@@zonk1477 yep, that is it > very simple if you follow the money... and cut the BS. It is not a coincidence businesses pour everything into AI and that is promising even cheaper "workforce" than immigrants. Greed on Extreme level is the foundation / value of USA. Electing scammers and criminals as Preseedent tells all about who they are...
They just want profits to rise by squeezing people harder and harder until they break. They merge jobs together until 1 person is doing 5 positions for 1 wage. They also don't want to provide training, expecting people to come fully out of the box with a complete set of skills willing to do and put up with anything. Businesses will continue to turn a profit by lowering costs and raising prices, or to put it another way, the problem can be summed up by three words. Line goes up
Just work in manufacturing Standard rate is 17/hr starting nationwide with up to 25/hr in high demand regions Which also include wage increases based on experience, and often HEFTY sign on bonuses
Whats your plan? i dont ask with the same tone as the dip trying to be taken seriously with "hail" in his name. But one who feels the same as you and did something about it myself. Ive said before, "If you want to see something done right its often that youll need to see it done yourself."
I kind of feel like people take living in a first world country for granted. Like my dad worked every day, now retired. My grandpa did the same, and by all accounts things got better. Technology got better, and they were able to purchase it, and products came in from all over the world, and they got the best of the best. Some people still live on farms where they HAVE to go pick their food
"Gen Z can't communicate" -> Proceeds to never respond to job applications. Everybody quickly blames "poor communication" on the other side. Most of the time neither side communicated properly
Gen z has a hard time communicating in person . They are good with texts and emails but when it comes to phone calls or in person meetings they struggle . That skill is vital , gen Z will struggle to get any job if they don’t improve on that skill
Gen Z here. I prefer talking in person with folk that, I've tried to help out other Gen Zs with that issue, but never has worked. Hell, my own boss fired me over a pizza
@@cta6133 in Gen Zs defense alot of speaking opportunities have been taken away and replaced with mobile ordering which is much more convenient . I’m a millennial trust me I know the feeling of being nervous on a call ,I use to be nervous to call up a restaurant to order a pizza.
@@MsSkullomania Maybe I'm biased because I work in business, which tends to be more social. But I feel like gen Z was marginally worse at in-person communication
@@MsSkullomaniasure, a lot of people struggle with it, that's a fair point. But when your education and early work was 100% remote, nobody will hire you for an in person job, and public community/social third places are being systematically destroyed, where are you ever supposed to learn that skill?
As a gen Z worker, it's hard to care about a job when: - The job doesn't pay enough to get a house - They increasingly want me to work extra hours for no pay - They clearly don't care themselves when they're just importing H1B workers for cheap labor that won't complain
In my opinion, as a zillenial (1996), I think that the money is still valuable, it’s just that the laws around building new things is incredibly restrictive (here in California). It isn’t an economic issue to build more houses here, it’s more of a complex social issue. California is so desirable to live in, and if you make it slummy then it will kind of get ruined. The money I make here, living with my parents, is amazing if you look outside of California. I could buy a house if I wanted to move to West Virginia. But yeah, California, it’s crazy expensive here. Problem is, is that there might not be a better life than living here. It’s literally the best place maybe in the world? I haven’t travelled much, so it’s just a fear I have, that if I move away, it’ll always be a downgrade somehow.
It’s kind of like living next to the gardens of Babylon while being able to walk to the library of Alexandria. People might not see it as such, but that is the privileged perspective. Utilities are cheap due to good infrastructure, the climate is great for cars, you can order any part for your car and it’ll be there in 2 days via Amazon. I had to do a head gasket replacement on my car and I needed a cylinder head machine shop to fix up my parts. Wouldn’t ya know it, somebody did a bang up job for me and it was a 10 minute drive.
And the corporations along with big media are pandering to your generation with words like diversity and inclusion. That all went out the door when they started the layfoffs.
As a Gen Z workforce, it's not motivating because: 1. Salaries don't match the living standards 2. Employers rarely respected workforce contracts and the labour law 3. Globlisation and protectionism are making the job market difficult
That’s right. I remember when I entered the workforce at the turn of the century upon becoming an adult, and started seeing more and more of this in Southern California where I grew up.
It's insanely hard to try to get a job or even care when you have one because companies would rather hire a foreigner (indian or chinese) on an h1b visa to work for 70% base pay. It's a new form of indentured servitude and young American grads are left jobless
@@CJ-wh7iklmao do u just think that presidential policies are typically enacted and show root while they’re in office? 😂 most of the time, u have to wait until the next president is in office to see the fruit of the former presidents labor. Regardless of which side you’re on, both are just 2 different flavors of Ronald Reagan who cooked this country beyond recognition (clearly). Stop with the nonsense
in tech they need a Ph.D. with 5+ years of experience, able to to do hard leet code problems in 20 mins (I tried memorizing one just to see if I can make it and it still took 10 mins slamming the keyboard). All that to be treated miserably and be laid off.
To anyone curious, there is a very good paper by Begel and Simon, 'Novice software developers all over again', which says that new hires at Microsoft spend a relatively small amount of time on actual coding, as compared to other activities like communication and collaboration, and they are terrible at these real world skills because of over emphasis on hard skills, which makes their day at work awful. There are similar arguments in the Book Software Engineering at Google by Titus Winters. Honestly, it appears that the tech recruiting process is just full of cult practices self contradicting their research: We do it because the visionary CEO wants us to do it, and that essentially spreads the plague.
Let s not lie in here shall we. We just need a bachelor degree and the amount of experience depends on the role and so will the leetcode question. Now, if you want to work in AI at a big tech, then what do you expect?
In my experience as a Gen Z office worker, it's the older crowd that has trouble communicating. They'll send me IMs/emails asking if I can help with something, then waiting for my response before actually explaining what their issue is, when they could have opened up with their problem to begin with. If I miss a phonecall, they don't leave a voicemail, or I get a message saying to call them back later, again, without explaining what it is they actually needed to discuss, usually on topics that I'll need to research into then get back with them later on anyways.
I’m so glad to hear other people have the same issue. It’s gotten so bad, that I made my voicemail greeting just me saying if I am not expecting a call from you, I will not call back if you don’t leave a voicemail. It worked sometimes but, other times people just left voicemails saying to call them back 🫤
Omg yes. In the warehouse it's worse. Alot of older generations talk to GEN Z works like their own kids (no respect) which leads to a lot of fights. I've literally gotten into fights at work because I've had older co-workers make comments on me out of nowhere literally about the way my hair is long and the second I hold my own and don't let them push me around I'm considered disrespectful. I literally found out by other co-workers that all the people in the office were calling me me a disrespectful little kid when literally the older coworker came at me first about my hair being long and colorful. All I told that old co-worker was dude why are you making fun of my appearance because I know if I made fun of you you would take it extremely personal? And he was like who you talking to like that you need to learn to be quiet and listen..... he wasn't even a manager or anything in the company he was literally just another warehouse worker just like me. I found out through other co-workers that he believed that the reason he felt like he could talk to me that way was because I was younger than him. Complete trash generation. I have countless stories like that because working in a warehouse bring this out of people way more.
If you work for less than 21/hr for a year working 40 hours a week no brakes or sudden closures. After 25 years you would make 1 million dollars. However 25 years later that million dollars would be worth less than half it is now if we had 2% inflation for 25 years.
@@SideLine55invest borderline all income -> gets cancer --> insurance denies claim --> liquidates portfolio --> pays 21% capital gains tax plus federal and state taxes --> has fraction of money needed to pay medical bill --> start to realize that on hand cash is extremely important because of these reasons
economist and computer scientist here: Current trend of AI development shows its more likely that middle management and HR gets replaced by AI, which will also cut out recruiters.
Shocked it won’t go top down. CEOs or board members are typically not objective like ai would be with clear metrics. Though people would get upset with layoffs by ai.
AI won't cut out recruiters - The potential legal liability from AI "bias" will be too great. (Of course they'll still use AI to "aid" recruiters, which will de-skill recruiters and hence lower their salaries)
I hate to hear this "gen z doesnt wanna work" from fellow millenials. I swear some people forget. Also, we're STILL getting blamed for killing industries like diamonds and cereal.
(13:07) I agree. Companies are going have to accept the fact they are going to have to train workers. The employees with the skills they desire are not going to magically appear no matter how hard they look.
They do and they will. Immigration is all time high and completion is crazy. There are people that do have skills or smart enough to fakt them until they work.
@CJ-wh7ik when too many Americans have lost their purchasing power, the government will step in and have to do something (but that would be in a better world. I can't speak entirely for right now)
@@CJ-wh7ikyou realize they have to train the immigrant too? And even if training The immigrant is easier do you seriously they're going to have the English skills to understand the training process. Be real with yourself.
Employers say they want employees, but they really want co-founders. It is almost impossible to find someone who can clearly explain what they do for work across all generations. The degree of skill and motivation required to get hired could also be better served starting a business. I predict a future of cottage-industries where the highest-level tasks will be handled by business-owners who turn as many tasks as possible into gig-work. Unless there's some major change in how larger companies view training, the future is bleak for the average Joe.
The market is hyper competitive, and now business owners have to compete with mega corporations. If you had a business, you would need increasingly qualified people to try and compete as well. The problem is, is that private corporations have a higher influence on people’s lives than the government. The government can’t force the market to serve the people better. The government actually serves corporations to make sure that power stays here. When it comes to global power, it’s still better to be a struggling American than struggling literally anywhere else.
There is a near infinite theoretical layer of contracting and sub contracting. The top companies skim the highly resourceful and productive people and the hierarchy develops from there. The reality is, upper middle class America is already in the 1%, and the layers extend globally from that cohort.
Work in the finance sector, was given 3 weeks training and 2 weeks monitored work. When I worked in a car insurance call center we got 8 weeks training and 4 weeks monitored. Which turned into 8 weeks when 2 of the 9 of us failed to pass and they resat us all as a result. Companies are getting used to a high turn over rate so people like me who are looking for longer term roles are consistently hitting walls where the training isn't adequate for more than a few months of being at the company. It's not thorough and as a result, leaves us lost and feeling overworked.
All manufacture moved abroad. You either work useless job at corpo or you toil as service sector wagie. Pick your poison. There's handful ppl in trade but they learnt it from their fathers and are gonna carry out family businesses. You can't do that
@@ln.temperr5157im 22 ive never worked a job that had training. It was always "youre hired, now figure out how to work". Companies cant afford the profit loss of training
Employers refuse to hire gen z grads from the United States*. my entire team is from India and China. In fact there is one person under my group director besides myself that was born in the US. That’s like 2/70
This is unironically much more destructive for the economy than mexican and haitian immigrants working on farms. Since those tech jobs are some of the most desirable jobs in america and represent a huge portion of college graduates' prospective employment. Ironic how they blame mexico for this and not big tech
Doctor here, studied in medicine from 2014 till 2022 (graduated with a Masters in medicine) Ever since my graduation, can't find a job for over 2 years now... All that effort in treating patients, saving lives during covid, and knowledge, only to be left in the dirt, with no money, no job, nothing.
@@timvandenbrink4461 or companies can train and correct mistakes without disciplinary action immediately. Managers can be actual leaders and not jerks on a power trip. But sure, expect no better.
> Be me > Get degree > get entry level government job > Work hard for 2.5 years > Get several interviews for better positions within the agency > doesn’t get position because of lack of experience > become depressed
Unfortunately, if they hire you internally they have to hire someone to replace you. so x 2 If they post internally and say 'no suitble candidate' and hire someone with the exact skills for the role, they save on x1 hire and x1 training. Just a quick onboarding. Gov roles often require internal posting to fail before they make an external hire, but its easy to manipulate. Sucks but it is what it is.
I've seen a lot of articles saying this and I just want to know, is it true or is this gen z slander because they're not as willing to tolerate poor working conditions/pay?
gen z, torated a job that was tarrable, worked as a CNA for six months at age 18, it almost killed me, litraly had an ambulance called because i passed out due to low blood sugar and they wouldnt let me take my brake
I worked with a bunch of Gen Z kids and they've always been pretty hard working. Not only that but they're quite respectable, but I work a blue collar job, Idk how they are in other fields.
95% of the time you get left on read 3% you get a response 1% of the time you get an interview (but those don’t mean anything ) 1% you actually get a job
We grew up watching every generation preceding us working themselves to the bone in exchange for no fair shot at upward mobility. If you're smart and you work your ass off, maybe, just maybe, you can attain something resembling what the baby boomers thought of as a middle class life, but all it takes to destroy it all is one bad month. A wave of layoffs, a cancer diagnosis, and poof, you have nothing. In short, maybe we are ungrateful. The rest of you should be.
We are ungrateful. We have nothing to be grateful for. Grateful for a job? They profit way more off us than we make. Grateful for benefits? Still a net profit for the company. Everything else is downsides at a job.
Jesus such such a defeatist attitude in a miserable way to live I mean do you plan on living the rest of your life like that or decide one day you're tired of being miserable
@MrStreetninja007 Of course not. But what you do is fight for change, not endlessly go along with the status quo screwing you. I'm not saying don't work or take initiative to better yourself, I'm saying you're damn right we're not loyal to our employers - they aren't loyal to us. Jump between jobs for higher pay, push for unionization, use your sick days, quit without notice if that's best for you. Because at the end of the day, all you are to them is a number on a spreadsheet, and they'd sell you down the river to save a buck without a moment's hesitation. Basically, the opposite of giving up. Fucking fight.
@@MrStreetninja007 if an entire generation are just being "miserable", then maybe its time to let go of the individualistic bullshit and take a wider view on why an ENTIRE generation feels this way
Hi, Millennial here. When I entered the workforce, I received nothing but hatred and admonishment for being one. Difficult to find a job for that reason.
this is how they parented. instead of teaching their kids, they always berated their kids for not already being able to do something or not act 20+ years of age at 8. Then they sent their kids to school to learn everything. Funny thing is, the things kids miss today are things you MUST get from your parents.
@NeighborhoodWatchMann This is so true. I moved back in with my parents briefly in 2020, and they were astonished when there was some sort of household chore I did "wrong" because I had figured it out for myself. I think it was something like sweeping, where the task itself is pretty simple, but there may be things like "work from the outside of the room towards the center" or something like that. My parents were shocked that I didn't know how to do it the 'proper way', despite the fact that they never actually taught me how to do it.
I think that it’s true the game is harder to win as time goes on. The skills you learn in a workplace are mostly useless and not life skills, which is why I see a lot of gen z going to the trades. It’s a really smart move. Will it win the economic game? Probably not. It leads to the same avenues of burnout, selling your soul, etc. Life is a game where you have to define your own win condition. Gen z has to lower their standards. Not because they’re wrong, but because the universe wants them to bend the knee. Just like millennials are bending the knee, sucking corporate cock for permission to breed and start a family in a stick house. If y’all lowered your standards you could be living gangster ass lives. But instead we are in the “it has to be perfect” incel dystopia. I see a lot of gen z guys putting hoes over bros, and it’s just so lame imo. If gen z was really bros before hoes, they would accept millennials as bros, and we could shoot the shit about women. But instead it feels like you can’t catch a gen z man saying shit about women cause he’s afraid girls will find out and drop him. I wanna like gen z dudes but cmon. Like y’all are gonna have a serious identity crisis when you’re 30 and realize that men always like 20ish women. I can’t blame you because I felt the same exact way. I just never had to say it out loud because there was never a gajillion guys hollering at my girl through tik tok and snap chat. truth is, men are in this world alone. It’s totally okay for a man to die alone. Part of your psychology is actually built to operate alone. Men will understand you more than your mom, your sister, or your wife ever will.
What I’m understanding is companies don’t want to put in the work. The resumes may or may not be for actual open positions. The resumes that are, may never be viewed by an actual human. If a person gets hired, the company expects the new employee to just know how to be a worker. The companies fire workers who don’t fit in right away because they don’t want to be the workplace that bothers with mentoring an employee. That’s why they probably expect a new employee to have years of experience…. Because they don’t want to put in the effort to train someone who might not stick around. Of course, the companies expect their employees to be at their beck and call and reserve the privilege to fire an employee at any time. If the company doesn’t put in the effort and trust to nurture newcomers with talent, they’ll miss out on the new talent.
This is I think the best explanation. Several things are happening at once and most of them are around hiring and training. - Companies no longer wish to train employees, so they're looking to find people who are ready to go, which of course is far harder among younger folks. - COmpanies are often not reading resumes in person or they're outsourcing their hiring to an HR department or contractor, meaning they're not able to make a good selection based on experience and the impression of the resume or CV. Instead, they way people express themselves in their resume, which might be a really good indicator of what kind of a worker they are, isn't really a factor so much. - Companies are then interviewing online, even for in person jobs, meaning that they're not getting the benefit of just seeing the person as they are in person, which can also really be an indicator to both parties on "fit." - When employees are arriving, there is less expectation that they will be "trained up" to suit the culture of the workplace, and an expectation that they will just be ready to go. At the same time, Gen Z's culture is more casual in university (e.g. dress, address) meaning their step up into the workplace may also require a culture shift into how they present themselves. If they've been hired sight unseen, this may be a surprise to their manager, who may not realise that they don't own a professional pair of shoes, for example, or don't know what honorifics to use. - Gen Z is also often far less tolerant of certain expectations. For example, they may not necessarily understand why a "good pair of shoes" might be valued by a manager, if they are otherwise doing their job. This is not unique to Gen Z, but was intensified by the pandemic. I don't think there's anything wrong with Gen Z. They're just an intensified version of Millennials and less tolerant of some of the workplace problems Millennials have generally had to put up with just to be employed.
Gen Z grew up with 'social' media, which is worthy of an entire video series on how harmful that is. They grew up in the longest market bull run in recorded history (skipping the early 20's hiccups), while seeing that all the so called accumulated wealth did NOT go to retirement funds (or any social systems), which were DESIGNED to piggyback off of bull runs (where applicable. My country has been lauded as having the best retirement system, yet for 10-15 years, almost no retirement fund actually indexed their annual retirement fees, meaning that people who worked 40-50 years saw their funds evaporate by over 30% due to inflation with no correction (which is was indexing means in this context)). Gen Z also grew up in a 'society' where third places all but disappeared, even more so in the early 20's. Their education was significantly impacted by the early 20's, with their social skills taking an extra hit as a result (on top of 'social' media and third places disappearing). Wages continued to remain stagnant while inflation ran rampant. Unification is luckily helping where people properly employ it. Housing became ever more unaffordable due to the lingering ramifications of the 2008 crisis. As a millennial, I see the same issues. I earn 1.67x the national gross average and even a simple starter home is out of reach. I've spent 7 years at my current employer, yet despite me _proactively encouraging knowledge sharing and seeking to develop new skills,_ all efforts were dismissed because "there was no budget". Older colleagues have suggested spending my spare time and money to develop said skills instead, I trust that I do not have to elaborate what's wrong with that. Even worse, I suggested knowledge sharing when said knowledge was still available. MANY colleagues have since retired with no 'successor' or knowledge retainment plans in place, so those who remain now have to reinvent the wheel on far too many fronts. At the same time, I hear many older colleagues (late 50's, early 60's) state that they've suffered through 4-5 burnouts in their careers and notice that they can do less and less after each of them. That makes sense. The human mind and spirit are incredibly indomitable, but only to a certain degree. Stretch a rubber band to its limits and beyond long enough and it'll snap. That's what burnout is. A snapped band can never fully regain its original elasticity. 1 in 5 workers deals with burnout or its symptoms and no one's talking about it. All of the above is due to significant systemic shortcomings. As to why things are the way they are can also fill an entire video series, but that's a different topic. Everything we see as 'issues' right now is all designed to keep said systemic shortcomings in place, because they make the rich richer. Human progress gets demolished by the (mis)use of the term 'woke'. Young men get forced to suck it all up through the 'glorification' of stoicism. I.e. just do your work and don't complain. (Political) polarization serves to split the people in places like the political spectrum, like young vs old and male vs female. It's all a smokescreen to divert attention away from _systemic problems._ That's where the real problem is. United, people can make a stand. Divided, they fall. We've been falling for far too long.
I like how you said all of that and you somehow never realized that the US dollar is a Fiat. If I described it to you as a Federal reserve Note you wouldn't even know what that means even though it says it right on the fake money that you think is money
@@TrevorHamberger Fiat or no, modern day currencies are a means to exchange goods. If your purchasing power cannot keep up with costs, that's a failure of the system, intended or not. I know a lot more than I can put in one comment, but the OP was long enough as is ^^'
@Celis.C no you can't exchange something you haven't paid for with lawful money. you don't and can't actually own the things you think you do. You're going to find that out in the coming years
I'm a Boomer working with several generations from Gen X to Gen Z. They're all motivated and great to work with. Everyone is treated with respect which is mandatory in our work culture. They have a strong work/life balance; maternity and paternity leave; personal time off; counselors; nurses on staff...IOW a strong support system. When you're seeking work, look at the company's culture as the main benefit and the rest will fall in line.
I'm trying, I'm really trying but most modern companies are so evil that I feel like if I walked in and waved around a cross the management would recoil and hiss in outrage like the demons they are.
I have a correction to give about Boomer culture; They categorically did *not* reject materialism, either in youth or as adults. If anything, they're perhaps one of the most materialistic generations ever due to their complete and total surrender to materialist worldviews. They abandoned the thick, meaningful bonds that tied generations together previously which were, fundamentally, not materialist in nature. Instead, they were the first atomized generation that flew to the wind, wandering anywhere and anywhere. The materialist culture of Boomers influenced Gen.X negatively, to where they wanted to break from that framework but had nowhere and no way to do so (this is what Fight Club is about). Millennials embraced it completely and totally, immersing themselves in the materialist ethics and focusing their collective id towards "social justice" and material equality; in much the same way as Boomers did. Gen.Z is, in my opinion, the first since the Boomers to fracture. There's a large percentage that're as obsessed with the material as Millennials and Boomers are, but there's an equally- if not larger- share that is rejecting all things material in favour of those thick concepts that we have for our entire lives it seems felt were denied to us. That's why religiousness is increasing, for example.
Heya, I thought that your take was possibly the most interesting one I've seen in this comments section. Not to mention, I hadn't really heard about any growing religiosity. I thought it would be interesting to talk about this stuff more if ya like! I tried adding your discord from your channel, but the link is dead :/
Hello from Romania,here every workplace is filled with nepotism like I've worked 4 different jobs and in all of them you weren't allowed to say anything to anyone because they had relative's that could get you marked or fired,also in all promotion's exam the only person who got selected was a relative or friend of the boss
Gen X from Europe here. While agreeing that, there might a wideranging problem in corporate life that it doesn't so much matter, "what is being said, rather than who says it". Having said that, i also feel that communitation skills are essential. One of the best advices and feedbacks, i ever received from a former boss of mine, was to take a time be more solution oriented with feedback, and rather than just pointing out problems, also trying to come up with solutions. Nobody will get you marked for speaking, if they feel there is value to what was being said.
@@ronweasley4767I mean I saw it taking new forms when people would hire their friends, girlfriends, neighbors, etc Sometimes they were actually qualified but not always unfortunately
You don't know how hard it used to be when you could buy a good house with a few yearly (average) saleries, most families needed only one person to work in order to live ok etc etc. Obviously, lots of other stuff was worse, but acting as of there are no big problems right now is stupid
Not really, the time 50 years ago was basically a one off confluence of economic factors that can't happen again. That peak was followed by what was almost a global collapse of economic and financial systems caused by the factors that created the economic boom. A big contributor to that crash was wages had become the primary driver of inflation which creates an inflationary spiral.
@@SurmaSampo Pretty sure real estate speculation and the monopolization of everything had a much bigger impact on inflation. Wage growth can cause inflation if it's very high and near-universal, but we've almost never seen that happen. 99% of the time, "inflation" is just a tragedy of the commons among the wealthy. Each one thinks they can get away with taking a slightly bigger part of the pie for no reason other than greed, and when they all collectively have the same idea, you end up with no pie for anyone else.
@@SurmaSampoI have thought about a similar point which is rather depressing. Not agreeing at all with your wage inflation idea. Perhaps the time post WW2 through the 60s was a one off event where the average worker, in the US, was allowed to make enough to be set for life, with enough left over to give to the next generation. When you think about it, you never really hear anything about Europe or Asia having an amazing economic period during that time. Just the US. We in the US were made the center for rebuilding the rest of the world, who had nothing left after WW2. They lost population, industry, housing, ECT. Then had to spend the next 20 years rebuilding it all, meanwhile the US got to rake in money providing the rest of the world with the things they needed to rebuild.
My father worked in road paving my entire youth. He was all over Canada away every summer for upto three months at a time. I watched him sell his soul like his father before him. But my father didnt gain wealth. He didnt gain a retirement. He could barely even have a house and two cars with three kids. It royally messed me and my sisters up having a semi absent father to no fault of his own. My grandfather did the same work for the same amount of time and retired with a farm with TWO homes on the property and two barns. He was done working by 50. Why on earth would i mirror the failed strategy?
As a gen z who was affected by the layoffs in 22-23: Finding a new job was such a challenge. I felt so worthless in a market where everyone was asking for multiple years of experience, and I barely had three months before I got laid off. I had to work for months improving my interviewing skills before I landed a new job. I am so grateful that the interview was structured so I could demonstrate my soft skills and that I had the ability to learn, because well, what else did I have at the time? I thank my hiring manager (no longer my current manager) all the time for taking a chance on me and giving me an opportunity to prove myself. Unfortunately, it seems like, as this trend continues, that is what's needed for new grads to break into the job market.
As an Gen Xer, I realized it was all a scam and made my own way. What you think things should be is irrelevant, things are what they are, do the best you can with what you have to work with and focus on being better than you were yesterday.
@@Cross_Malaki we, I think, still can do this but it's increasingly harder to do. I think this is because the "machine" or whatever you want to call it is getting bigger and bigger. It's hard to find opportunities when so much is dominated by corporate culture
I am a Millennial, who are brainwashed by the Study well, Work Hard and you will succeed and realized too late in life, none of them are true. I wish Gen Z all the best and success. There is too much supply in labor. The only thing you can hold off is your money and work and decide who will receive.
I've met at least five different gen z kids that told me that their whole future was set and that they have an amazing job and engineering waiting for them that pays a living wage.
I have multiple employees under me. Some old, some young. The biggest frustration i have is trying to keep younger employees motivated when their complaints are always so valid. They want reliable schedules, higher wages, more career opportunity... Ive genuinely felt horrible after writing one up for absentism because i understand that they arent getting anywhere even when showing up to work every day. There is just no way any single person can survive with entree level wages so its so hard to get anyone to move up because they cant even survive in the moment. I really really hope things change for the better. I hate the way older employers, managers and supervisors say nobody wants to work anymore... Thats just not true. Ive once told an old manager of mine when they said that about others that they probably just decided that if their gonna be broke whether they go to work or not then why not just stay home.
There needs to be a class action lawsuit against these companies hiring practices. There also needs to be an expansion of the scope of age discrimination defined by Title 9. Right now it only protects people over the age of 40 but I have been passed on jobs I’m overqualified for for no other reason than my age. Also needs to be a federal ban on AI hiring software. This is ridiculous
Watched my dad give 20+ years of his life and health only to be passed up for promotion in favor of a diversity hire and cast aside when he was no longer useful to them. Bought out his remaining time and retired early with full pension. But not without a mangled back, hips, and PTSD.
I scanned all the hamburgers in the grocery store and found that you will exceed your healthy calorie count 3x over by the time you reach a healthy protien target if you just eat the patties. So essentially they don't count as meat (unless you need iron). Cottage cheese, lean ground beef, and non breaded chicken is basically your only reasonable road. Maybe protien powder. Essentially what I'm saying is that you have no hope in hell of eating healthy unless your aware of this.
I'm in my mid 20s rn and millennials have done more to teach and instruct me how to do my job right than early Gen X/ boomers. I had one supervisor in his 50s at a airfoil plant I used to work at and every time the airhose would get a hole in it I'd ask for help to replace it since I was just a part timer, he'd just tell me to figure it out myself despite me never being taught. Thankfully one of the other employees closer to my age would take care of it for me so I could get back to work. Thankfully I work at a different place now and my job is both easier and pays more with pretty chill supervisors. Though the owner kinda sucks but it's whatever.
>Be me (millenial b. 1994) -Get STEM degree (Biology) -forced out of childhood home that I helped build ($ & labor) -cant find first home due to peak of market covid -gets shitty apartment w/ ridiculous rent during worst part of covid -hundreds of applications -forced to take job at pizza place -work ass off for 2 years -almost become gm of store but get blind sided by “friend” -finally get a “decent” govt iob after worst inflation 45k /yr. Night shift -have child w/ childhood sweetheart and think things are turning around -child has genetic non curable/treatable disease 30% chance to die before 20 w/ seizures and delays -have to get 2nd job while also providing child care during my work week (1 week on 1 week off 12 hr. Night shift) -cant sleep till wife gets home (avg less than 2 hrs of sleep a night during work week) -turn 30 -big confuse wtf happen to 20? -be big sad -be living paycheck to paycheck with huge medical debt due to sons condition… -still no down payment for house to start bigger family or even savings…
Hey there man, you doing alright? I'm wishing you and your family all the luck in the world my guy. Ik this probably won't help but you've at least earned my respect for all your hard work
Guys got a stem degree but he calls the US dollar being a Fiat a conspiracy theory. Same goes for me telling him how to prevent all childhood illness from happening in the first place. That's just a conspiracy theory and I'm not a doctor
@dukefan369 yeah I understand that entirely. That's why you're using an instrument of debt like the Euro as if its currency and then wondering why you can't afford things that could be afforded by past generations. If you had any clue whatsoever that the money you're using isn't actually money you wouldn't be in this position in the first place
I just quit my job today working in retail because a pay raise of $1 was considered a lot after one year! I put my 2 week notice in the next day right before I had my winter break and went home for Christmas for college. All I was wanting is a small raise and I wasn’t the best employee but I damn sure was not a lazy tool who did nothing and I literally got laughed at by my colleagues when I told them I was asking for a raise. I understand now why the next youngest person there was 27 meanwhile I’m 20. I’d MUCH rather work on my own business and learn the skills that come with doing that than EVER working for another human being again. I really hope that employers start realizing that paying $0.50 above minimum wage won’t attract the employees they want. I can’t believe more people aren’t angry with the fact that $0.25 is considered normal for a years worth of performance; actually disgusting. I plan to open multiple companies that can actually afford to pay its ALL of its staff livable wages.
The management in this survey said that gen z lacks communication skills. These are also the same managers and executives who will tell you to "just handle it" or will schedule a 2 hr meeting for something that could have been an email. There's also their corporate buzzword salad like "synergizing the dynamics of our workplace artifacts and culture" Communication goes both ways, and it's easy to blame the other party when it fails.
Speaking as a Gen-Z some of the Best and Worst people I have worked with have been Millennials and Gen-Z. When they are at their best, they are efficient, quick learners, and compassionate. When they are at their worst, they are lazy, cannot learn the job, and throw people under the bus constantly. People are people there are good ones and bad ones in all generations, Gen-Z is not unique in this, hiring managers need to acknowledge this.
What does every worker need even if they aren't able to clarify it?. Good wages. Safety in job and at home. A system that fixes problems for the workers. That's what the last few generations told everyone. GenZ is the most vocal about it. And that's what companies dont like and they manipulate the rest of workers that we don't work together. Against those running the companies and profiting from it. The first generations to create unions knew that already but we seem to have forgotten about that.
European Millenial here and Author from the book "A Life's Worth: The Life of a Nobody": Thank you so much for saying it. We need more people to address the real issue instead of focusing on bombarding each other in a senseless blame game. I gave a few different analogies throughout my book, especially in the Bonus Chapter "An Autistic Account" through the lens of how I see the same pattern and issue being constantly repeated throughout not only history but various sectors of life itself. The root is always the same, but the mask on how it shows itself to the world on top is always slightly different.
you know, a few YEARS ago i had an internship (won't say what but can be seen as a prestige workplace). i wanted to work there while working on my thesis [following semester] and after my thesis, work there full time. it's what i studied for, for 5 years at higher level. you know what the (then) recent ads said? "must have master's. preferably PhD. minimum 5 years working experience internationally". how is that possible for someone at 23? i worked and i studied, i did EVERYTHING "on time", yet, for those born in the 70s (Sweden talk more about decades than the XYZ gens as usamericans) who didn't even have BACHELOR'S, i had to have a PhD to do the job I had been doing for months for free, if i wanted to get paid. and then they wonder why we all are fucking tired when we haven't even started? i recently had to GO BACK to uni to get any sort of income (we can get about 200 dollars a month for studying in Sweden) but that is also running out. what is someone like me supposed to do? nobody, literally nobody, even responds "no thank you" when applying for jobs. i speak 3 languages, another 2 basics, higher education, for what? what did i do all that for? it was for nothing. nah i'm telling all my kids (if i ever afford to have any LOL) to be plumbers and roofers. unless you become a doctor or a lawyer none of that higher education is worth it anymore.
If saying that "45hr/wk of skilled work with a bachelor's degree needs to come with enough wage to pay rent, groceries, and utilities" is being 'entitled,' then yes, I'm incredibly entitled when it comes to my work.
When I think of gen Z in the workplace, I think of that surprised Pikachu meme where employers give minimum pay, so the workers give minimum effort. And I fully support it. I wish the era of "The Great Resignation" lasted longer. As a society, we've done little to encourage employees to do more than the bare minimum at work, but with gen z particularly, you guys are feeling the crunch moreso than previous generations. You've come of age in an era where gig work has replaced a lot of once stable jobs/industries, witnessed the largest wealth gap grow in our country's history, and your money doesnt even go as far as ours. Many of us millenials have completely given up on home ownership, what hope does gen z and gen alpha have?? My hope is things are so bad for so many people that we force politicians and companies at large to invest more in workers and their communities.
During COVID I worked at a warehouse for a bit. You had all sorts of people there. 17/18yr olds working a summer job, late 20 / early 30 somethings who didn't know what they wanted to do after uni and 50/60s year olds heading into retirement. I can honestly say all these age groups had people who were lazy and didn't want to work but did it in different ways. The youngest group would just stand around and talk or be on their phones, the middle would half ass their jobs or cozy up to management and do the easy office/IT and the oldest group would pick and choose the easy jobs and leave the more difficult jobs to others. They would all leave me to pick up the slack and fix their problems in the inventory control department. The youngest cohort that gets the blame for lack of work ethic because they don't pretend to do work while the others do. I don't blame them for not bsing a job and looking busy but if that's what managers want they gotta pretend I guess.
I think most millienials understand gen zs. They are a product of the system and incentives. They have very little hope that they can work with the system. Class mobility is down inequality is increasing. Companies reward constant job seeking. Wage expectations are high because costs are high. Training is non existent pensions have vanished promotions mostly go to external candidates. If you demonstrate that your not a viable career i dont know why you should be surprised if your workforce becomes incredibly mercenary.
This so unfair. I’m a millennial, and I’ve managed my fair share of gen z. Some of the most hard-working people I’ve met are gen z. I feel that previous generations like to pretend to work. Gen z likes to actually do work and want the conditions that help them to do so. If they finish their work, why would I care if they leave early, watch a twitch stream at work, or excuse themselves to attend to personal affairs? I feel like a good motivator is asking people what do they want to do with their life? If they want to learn specific skills, I try to give them missions that allow them to do that. If they just want to coast, I get real with them and tell them I expect the bare minimum, and I encourage them to go for the next step. I sometimes feel sorry for gen z, they take so much shit. While some can be lazy (as in any age group), I’ve found that some have deep trauma associated to hustle culture, workplace abuse and loneliness. So it’s normal that some lack interpersonal skills. Work in corporate America is a shit show. I still remember this gen z colleague, I had to tell him to go home, take time off, and that work wasn’t the most important thing in the world. Like for him, the default was doing unpaid overtime everyday, yet they say gen z is lazy 🙄 So mean and out of touch
First millennials, now gen z. Methinks the problem is less an entire generation of people and more the fact that the job market is forcing people to live for work rather than letting them just work to live. We don’t mind working, we’re just don’t want it to consume our whole life just to avoid living on the streets.
As a former CS prof and chair of my CS Dept., I made sure that our students knew how to function in a workplace by having the interpersonal skills they needed as part of the educational curriculum - group projects and presentations, IT companies speaking to our classes about expectations, workplace expectations reflected in the classroom. Unfortunately, most college departments feel their job is to provide information not how to use it in the best manner to get and keep a job.
The only way to reject wage slavery is to have a parent willing and capable of paying your expenses while you don't work. It has nothing to do with education
@@volfi123 an educated workforce knows its worth and isn't easily gaslit into slavery. hence - best prepared to reject wage slavery. there's more to life than your reality allows you to imagine.
@@erock.steady yea i know that. I am educated and have a steady job as science lab director for a decade now. However, you can't reject work if you got nothing to eat unless your country pays you to exist. Therefore, those who can afford to reject jobs left and right are those with parents who are willing to pay all expenses (which is probably the case since gen x has accumulated wealth enough to help their children and grandchildren)
@@volfi123 we don't all see things the same way, tho. the position you're in isn't typical i think. what about people who are used to going without? why would they work for companies that get their workers food stamps, but don't pay enough for them to provide for themselves? but i'm not disagreeing with you - i'd assumed "the most educated generation" could be used interchangeably with "a generation of critical thinkers," which it can't. a generation of critical thinkers, educated or not, is best prepared to reject wage slavery. whether or not it's capable of actually doing so is another conversation entirely.
I've gotten VERY lucky and have been fairly successful in my career as a Zoomer. What is hardest for me to deal with is everyone acting like luck had nothing to do with their success. My zip code, or my genetics, or what the weather was like on interview day have had more impact on my success than my choices and work ethic. Hot take, I think work ethic is largely inborn and something we can't control. As a hard worker, I think it is largely out of my control how hard I work.
Ever since the invention of credit, the focus of "The next generation will be built up by the previous generation" shifted to "This generation will be supported by the next generation".
I'm a 3-year Air Force Junior-ROTRC Veteran, got out as a Cadet Senior Master Sergeant, 3.1 GPA in High School, and just under 3 year's experience as a home caretaker. After I moved with my family to Florida's Treasure Coast, I applied to dozens of entry-level jobs so I have something to do until I get a new real job. But noone would hire me, even though I wore a suit and tie. I think employer's idea of 'entry-level' qualifications is a Double Doctorate's and Double PHD, both from Harvard with a perfect 4.0 GPA, and 35 years of experience, to be considered for a job.
or maybe it could be what you literally said "until i get a new real job". who would willingly hire someone you know is just gonna leave ASAP. Would you hire someone and train them knowing they will quit in 2 months? Also no one gives a fuck about your high school GPA, hell they dont really care about your college GPA for most jobs
@@koolfizz-1795 I didn't mention the real job I'm about to get because I don't want to doxx myself, considering how crazy people are today (insane political polarization, and I'm not one who conforms to popular politics).
@@koolfizz-1795 TH-cam deleted my first comment, so let me try again. I'm about to get a real job, but I didn't mention what it is because I don't want to doxx myself.
Nobody cares about your GPA (especially if it’s 3.1) or what you wear to the interview. They care if you have experience in their industry and seem likely to stay in that job for awhile. Also, you need to come off as normal and not insane. That’s about it.
I recently read in a German publication that 70% of employers are desperatly looking for staff on Facebook and 70% of GenZ are desperatly looking for jobs - on Tiktok.
Before taxes, my paycheck is almost $2k but after taxes, it's around $650. It's not that I don't make enough money, it's the fact that more than half of my paycheck is taken for state and federal income tax. If the income tax wasn't so high, I could've afforded a house by now.
Yeah the income tax is straight robbery. If Americans knew how much and how often they were taxed, they would be disgusted, especially since this money just ends up wasted by the government on foreign stalemate wars.
I'm skeptical that it's all taxes. At $2,000/month, your annual income is $24,000/year, which is only enough to get into the 12% federal tax bracket, and the highest _marginal_ rate at that level for a state income tax (while paycheck withholding usually happens at a rate less than that) is 7.2% in Hawaii. Add 6.2% Social Security and 1.45% Medicare and you're at a total rate of 26.85%. Where is the other 40% tax coming from to put you at $650 take-home pay?
Hard to care about a normal 9-5 at 40 hours a week when I can watch someone get more money in a week from screaming at a video game then doing that job for a whole year
The biggest lie that i, a 26 year old has ever been told is that my hard work would pay off one day. There is ZERO reason to want to engage in the system if its just going to bite into my neck, bleed me dry then throw me to the side worse off than i was when i arrived. And guess what the exact experience ive had from the roughly dozen jobs ive had has been?
I recently discovered this whole "fourth turning" perspective, where crises occur roughly every 80 years (four generations). Most links are a bit apocalyptic or prepper themed, but overall I do agree.
I believe this is something that a former KGB agent also spoke about. The elite is using this as a form of social engineering to create the world they want. Search for Yuri Bezmenov about the 4 stages of ideological subversion from 1984.
I really resonated with the final section of this video. In my limited experience, both the hardest workers and laziest workers have both been gen Z. I guess I understood fundamentally that work ethic was dependent on what values our parents instill in us, but putting it into words and diving into each respective generation's views does a lot to reinforce it. Good video
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One major thing as well is the rising of minimum wage. The higher it is, the more people are priced out of the market, which means the unskilled, which includes the youth. The housing market is already boomers and older gen x trading homes with each other. The job market isn't much different.
Its capitalism. Supply and demand. The goal is to pay your employees as little as possible without them leaving for another job. The only way to get ahead is to aquire skills that are harder to replace. There are alot of people out there that work jobs where a month of training makes you basically as good as someone working there a few years. This is the hard truth for employees to accept but in this day in age you need to aquire skills or be lucky with connections. Its not enough to just be a good worker anymore
crime pays amazing now, jails in my area are half staffed and legally only suppose to be 7 to a cell. Last week it was 24 in each cell when i was in. Only fix is to raise taxes, and that cant be afforded so it wont happen in my state as each year we go into a deeper deficit. I have a degree in Psychoanalysis, as such I have no problem convincing lower income people to do the same and help crumble the broken system I can shoplift and go home and read my Eric Berne books as I hand out Norman Angell to my captains.
Being hard to replace is the key. I've integrated my work into company processes so deeply there is no way they can get rid of me without losing the ability to operate and maintain many of the tools they use daily.
Eh, to an extent as we live in a mixed market capitalist (limited liability is a fundamentally not capitalist concept) economy. There is also the truth that if a system creates too many unemployed people and needs are not met social instability will occur.
the issue is communication, we all just listen to reply rather than listen to understand, fingers always itchy to blurt out a paragraphs of excuses to blame others rather than to actually live out our lives
I am 24.5 years old this December. 1 year ago, I graduated my apprenticeship in becoming a Tool & Die maker. I most of my co-workers are Youngest Boomer and Oldest Gen-x, much like my dad. The thing I figured out early on, is that they thrive on solving problems within the workplace. Ask. Them. Questions! If you do it frequently enough, they will start to believe that you are genuinely interested in becoming a better employee, not just getting paid more for the same work. You have to be willing to sacrifice your time and energy to become better at the job you do.
This is what I found as well! I asked so many questions it was unreal but it helped me gain so many skills in such a quick amount of time! Thank you for sharing this perspective
Im also early GenZ and stand by a lot of things you said about yourself. I generally consider the simple division between generations to be complete bs. Though I do agree if you are late GenZ-er for example, you would have a different perspective to work than the earlier representatives of the generation. However, the solution wouldn't be just dividing people into smaller groups, rather defining them based on personal connection and related knowledge to the job. Until now, it seemed like a good idea to just focus on outsourcing for entry and mid level jobs. But as the actual demand for skills becomes bigger and as this process becomes quicker - now every couple of years, the focus of resources will shift back into learning skills on the job (or at trainings) like back in the 50-60s, thus closing the circle of the generations. and so on...
Gex X with PhD, extensive experience in industry and academia, multiple professional accreditations... all the things that employers should want, but they would rather hire a Gen Z worker because X'ers are now considered too old to be hired.
Personally, I tend to avoid those with higher education degrees when it comes to hiring. Many though not all can come across as entitled and assume that education equals intelligence. They also tend to be too rigid in their thinking. I have a strong preference for individuals who have done community service, served their country, or contributed to their local community. In my opinion, they make the best employees, even if they aren’t a perfect fit on paper. Not that education is bad but OTJ or school well working a related field is vastly better imo as you learn useful practice skills well avoiding alot of the regurgitating.
I have met literally no one with this issue whereas all my younger friends are struggling with employment. Studies have been done regarding employer hiring habits, older folk do struggle with being hired but gen z are struggling at an unprecedented rate we've not seen in previous generations.
Aw damn it I clicked to get some validation about not finding a job and you made me empathize and think about maybe possibly trying to talk to a boomer. What have you done 😔
Never seen your videos before, qatched this smoking a bowl before watching a comedy movie and you earned my sub. Love it man. Im gen z and feel like gen z is just doing the things that older gwnerations always said they regretted NOT doing.
i believe louis rossman compared working today to the carrot and stick. Except now instead of the carrot dangling just out of reach, its attached to a drag racer driving away from you at 300 kilometers per hour.
8:00 - 8:11 "(Paraphrazed) You need 3-5 years of experience to work an entry level job." So college students/anyone over the age of 18 nowadays need Mid-level experience for an Entry level job. Gee, thanks Corporate America 😀😀😀😀🤡🤡🤡🤡
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this was a great video sir, very well done. i agree what is happening in the current workforce & the judgement being passed down to the younger generations is ridiculous. I wouldn't be anywhere near where i am today without the multiple mentors and good managers i had throughout the years to teach me how to be a responsible worker & effective leader. Keep talking about this! you are SO right!
My views on the workplace came from my boomer parents. I got a rude awakening when I did what they told me too only for it to not work. I did everything the older workforce told me to do and tried to adapt their advice to make myself marketable. I wished I had more experience and more “fragmented advice from the internet”. I would’ve had a more accurate understanding of the workforce
Such great talking points as always, thanks again, I’ve been feeling more “worldly” listening to your videos and it’s brought me a lot of insight into why the world operates the way it is. 2 points that I really enjoyed •Different generational circumstances and how they lead people to their beliefs on work, loved this angle •Opinions that each generation can have on the next generation and vice versa, and how that can shape their views towards work. Wouldn’t have guessed you were 25, happy birthday!
So glad you enjoyed it and so happy to hear that’s the insight you took away from it! Exactly what I gained with the research as well. A lot of these comments are telling me I look older than I am which I guess is not ideal haha. Really enjoyed reading your comment, thank you for sharing this with me! Hope all is well
Grand Elder of Gen Z here (Born in 97) You do a great job explaining the core issue. I see the same issue in competitive video games to, everyone wants the best of the best on there team. But everyone is more often than not gonna vote kick the noob rather than help them get into it game. The more competitive the game the worst this becomes. Perhaps if we could make real life less competitive somehow some of our current issues will be resolved? However I suspect these issues will need to boil to be far worst levels before anything is done. After all even if you plug your ears and hide under a rock there still some things to big to miss.
It doesn't help that many of us are vocal about needing help due to disabilities, instead of hurting ourselves for our jobs. My assistant manager is always mad that I can't do as much work as an able bodied person; but I'm saving the company from having to pay out for me being constantly injured on the job due to my frequent dislocations. My doing less saves the company thousands that they'd have to pay me for my disability causing injuries
I've been a capenter for 8 years, and worked with the design teams for 4 out of 8 of those years. While i've never met the design teams formerly, i have worked with the on blueprints via zoom meetings with dozens of construction professionals. I can tell u that the design teams post mid covid have shown to be completely incompetent. Ppl that r supposed to be collage educated cant do basic math. A couple missing numbers? That's fine. Every page having conflicting measurements/info is another. You cant pay me enough to do 3 ppl's jobs. Looks like the customer is just going to have to suffer for it.
this is why i’m applying for the Squishable location at my local mall as (hopefully) my first ever job. it’s a plushie store that sells high-quality products made with soft, huggable material and fair working conditions. they have lots of workers in Gen Z like i am who genuinely love what they do, are incredibly friendly with customers, and not only do they actually take the time to help you look for something, but they have offered to personally walk me across the store to show me a plushie they think i’d vibe with, when they could have easily just pointed me in the right direction and left it at that. the work ethic of these people is incredible, and i want to take every one of these narrow minded assholes who hate my generation and force them to just stand in the giant doorway of this store and watch us actively prove them wrong. look on our works, ye mighty, and fucking despair.
No person should have to be loyal to an employer. They’ll fire workers whenever they want. Treat them poorly and pay them crap. Always look out for yourself and you wallet. Be loyal to you. Never to them.
When I got out of the Army a decade ago, it took me awhile to figure out that I’m just not an office person, and blue collar is my personal path for the most success. I’ve done crane operating, powerlines, and now Union Ironworking. IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I’ve found boomers to be the most overwhelmingly frustrating people to deal with as a whole. They don’t listen to anyone, they don’t like cohesion, if they see a technique that’s nostalgic and dumb they dive on it almost immediately, and all they have is half truth anecdotes about how shit was in their time. Meanwhile, I’ve worked with some dudes in the Gen Z age Bracket that were incredible. Picked up things quickly, already had some knowledge via TH-cam or past experiences that applied to my careers, ask questions that pertain to efficiency or workers rights. Yeah, they suck at social skills sometimes, but that isn’t their fault! They were born with the technology to instantly communicate with another person without having to talk to them. The only thing they’ve seen is people shit on them, and most were around the same things my generation had to experience.
Don't really blame Gen Z when wages are low and prices are high, BUT their failure to accept that hierarchies aren't going anywhere and you will have to eventually bend to at least some norms is just hubris. Changes happen slowly, and if you exclude yourself from the organization by refusing to follow dress codes, communicate respectfully or spend any of your own time learning things like excel, because "I shouldn't have to do anything on my off-time", well, you're not going to be present to be able to change ANYTHING. Also, promotions are not automatic, they will take time and even though prices are high, you applied for an entry level job, and you can't after less than a year expect to reshape job responsibilities that ARE in the position listing, expect higher pay, or more privileged projects. Yes, it hurts to be a newbie, but swallow your pride for at least a year or two and get that EXPERIENCE. Build those skills and relationships. Show that you can learn the system before trying to change the system. And yes, it DOES need to change. I believe in Gen Z, but I think they're asking for too much, too soon.
The carrot and the stick only works if there is in-fact a carrot on the other end.
LMAO! I can hear the boomers yelling at their screens saying "You just don't like the carrot" or some other idiotic excuse.
What happens when the carrot go poof? Beat by the stick
thank you for the wisdom minecraft Skelton
@@neilmcdougall4927 Man up and start holding the stick. That's what I did, lol. Saved my last employer 8 figures annually and got let go after finishing the project early. Never again! Started my own company, and we've been growing 400% YoY since then. If you bet on yourself, even if you lose, you still win since you learned so much. So, is it even a loss? I work for myself, and the sky is the limit. Strip away the power employers have, and what's left? Nothing. It's a grind, and I work 15+ hours usually. But I'd never give it up. I feel fulfilled; unlike a job, you have full control over your income. So, if you don't like how much you're making, you can go double it! No need to wait for a BS 2% raise at the end of the year.
@@neilmcdougall4927 Then people do what boomers like to call "quiet quitting". They do just enough to keep to stop the beating and nothing more.
It is laughable for employers to blame current job market trends on an entire generation. Its evident that these issues have been building for longer than the 'problem' generation has even been alive
I’m surprised you think they care. Companies will hire whatever seems to be best to hire or whatever consultants tell them to do. I’ve met people with petroleum engineering degrees who graduated during oil busts when companies were laying off who NEVER got a petroleum engineering job even when companies were complaining they needed them a few years later. They instead bid up huge amounts to get recent grads while ignoring guys who had graduated years earlier and took other jobs in the meantime.
If they care enough, theyll do something abt it
Its just the easiest target, always has been and always will be...
Fifteen years ago that were articles about how millennials were the worst generation of workers
I think 40% of gen z aren't old enough to vote. They're being blamed for things they have little control over.
It’s not Gen Z. It’s these employers. They want unicorns for low wages. It’s difficult to be excited to go to work when you are being paid peanuts, loyalty means nothing anymore, and you can be laid off at any second. I (1980 Gen X) was laid off in August and have applied to 80+ jobs, mostly entry level, because the demands of these job postings are insane. They are so specific and picky, what they want doesn’t exist! Got another rejection yesterday. They said that my qualifications and skills aligned, but unfortunately they were “unable to meet my compensation expectations”. My desired salary was listed at $18/hr, and I was willing to negotiate that. I now am interviewing for a 4-6m contract position with a different company that pays $12-15/hr, with no benefits. I’m running out of money and I’m desperate, so I’m going to take it. That being said, I was making $14/hr back in 2004. I never thought I’d still be taking pay cuts of this magnitude 20 years later.
I believe these employers are doing impossible demands on purpose so that they have unfilled positions on purpose and can say they can’t find any U.S citizens for the role. As the requirements to hire a foreigner on H1B1 visa are strict. They can only do so if they can’t find a U.S. citizen.
@@zonk1477 yep, that is it > very simple if you follow the money... and cut the BS. It is not a coincidence businesses pour everything into AI and that is promising even cheaper "workforce" than immigrants. Greed on Extreme level is the foundation / value of USA. Electing scammers and criminals as Preseedent tells all about who they are...
They just want profits to rise by squeezing people harder and harder until they break. They merge jobs together until 1 person is doing 5 positions for 1 wage. They also don't want to provide training, expecting people to come fully out of the box with a complete set of skills willing to do and put up with anything. Businesses will continue to turn a profit by lowering costs and raising prices, or to put it another way, the problem can be summed up by three words. Line goes up
Just work in manufacturing
Standard rate is 17/hr starting nationwide with up to 25/hr in high demand regions
Which also include wage increases based on experience, and often HEFTY sign on bonuses
What was your previous position?
I saw my dad work hard all my life spending time away from family and you know what that got him? Nothing
Have fun in your cardboard box 😂
Whats your plan? i dont ask with the same tone as the dip trying to be taken seriously with "hail" in his name. But one who feels the same as you and did something about it myself. Ive said before, "If you want to see something done right its often that youll need to see it done yourself."
@@HailAzathothmad
I kind of feel like people take living in a first world country for granted. Like my dad worked every day, now retired. My grandpa did the same, and by all accounts things got better. Technology got better, and they were able to purchase it, and products came in from all over the world, and they got the best of the best.
Some people still live on farms where they HAVE to go pick their food
@@williamtburt It got him you, not very bright are you?
"Gen Z can't communicate" -> Proceeds to never respond to job applications. Everybody quickly blames "poor communication" on the other side. Most of the time neither side communicated properly
Gen z has a hard time communicating in person . They are good with texts and emails but when it comes to phone calls or in person meetings they struggle . That skill is vital , gen Z will struggle to get any job if they don’t improve on that skill
Gen Z here. I prefer talking in person with folk that, I've tried to help out other Gen Zs with that issue, but never has worked. Hell, my own boss fired me over a pizza
@@cta6133 in Gen Zs defense alot of speaking opportunities have been taken away and replaced with mobile ordering which is much more convenient . I’m a millennial trust me I know the feeling of being nervous on a call ,I use to be nervous to call up a restaurant to order a pizza.
@@MsSkullomania Maybe I'm biased because I work in business, which tends to be more social. But I feel like gen Z was marginally worse at in-person communication
@@MsSkullomaniasure, a lot of people struggle with it, that's a fair point. But when your education and early work was 100% remote, nobody will hire you for an in person job, and public community/social third places are being systematically destroyed, where are you ever supposed to learn that skill?
As a gen Z worker, it's hard to care about a job when:
- The job doesn't pay enough to get a house
- They increasingly want me to work extra hours for no pay
- They clearly don't care themselves when they're just importing H1B workers for cheap labor that won't complain
In my opinion, as a zillenial (1996), I think that the money is still valuable, it’s just that the laws around building new things is incredibly restrictive (here in California). It isn’t an economic issue to build more houses here, it’s more of a complex social issue. California is so desirable to live in, and if you make it slummy then it will kind of get ruined.
The money I make here, living with my parents, is amazing if you look outside of California. I could buy a house if I wanted to move to West Virginia. But yeah, California, it’s crazy expensive here. Problem is, is that there might not be a better life than living here. It’s literally the best place maybe in the world? I haven’t travelled much, so it’s just a fear I have, that if I move away, it’ll always be a downgrade somehow.
It’s kind of like living next to the gardens of Babylon while being able to walk to the library of Alexandria. People might not see it as such, but that is the privileged perspective. Utilities are cheap due to good infrastructure, the climate is great for cars, you can order any part for your car and it’ll be there in 2 days via Amazon. I had to do a head gasket replacement on my car and I needed a cylinder head machine shop to fix up my parts. Wouldn’t ya know it, somebody did a bang up job for me and it was a 10 minute drive.
We prefer to call ourselves expats.
And the corporations along with big media are pandering to your generation with words like diversity and inclusion. That all went out the door when they started the layfoffs.
@@williamtburt zillenial xD
As a Gen Z workforce, it's not motivating because:
1. Salaries don't match the living standards
2. Employers rarely respected workforce contracts and the labour law
3. Globlisation and protectionism are making the job market difficult
Dude the cost of a terrible apartment with cockroaches can set you back 1300 to 1800 a month.
@prettyboyjeremy bro, I know, all the apartments i have rented before are like 2/3 of salary
That’s right. I remember when I entered the workforce at the turn of the century upon becoming an adult, and started seeing more and more of this in Southern California where I grew up.
Too many people
Then lets get rid of u.
It's insanely hard to try to get a job or even care when you have one because companies would rather hire a foreigner (indian or chinese) on an h1b visa to work for 70% base pay. It's a new form of indentured servitude and young American grads are left jobless
You voted for it dude. There's no one to blame but you
@@CJ-wh7ik Voting is ZOG trickery
@@CJ-wh7ikmost of gen z has not been able to vote until the last few years, this has been a problem 40 years in the making of outsourcing.
@@tristan4115 Also due to voting. Democracy has destroyed the country.
@@CJ-wh7iklmao do u just think that presidential policies are typically enacted and show root while they’re in office? 😂 most of the time, u have to wait until the next president is in office to see the fruit of the former presidents labor. Regardless of which side you’re on, both are just 2 different flavors of Ronald Reagan who cooked this country beyond recognition (clearly). Stop with the nonsense
in tech they need a Ph.D. with 5+ years of experience, able to to do hard leet code problems in 20 mins (I tried memorizing one just to see if I can make it and it still took 10 mins slamming the keyboard). All that to be treated miserably and be laid off.
Dont forget 10+ years of experience in a Arbitrary System nobody has heard of that was created 2 years ago
To anyone curious, there is a very good paper by Begel and Simon, 'Novice software developers all over again', which says that new hires at Microsoft spend a relatively small amount of time on actual coding, as compared to other activities like communication and collaboration, and they are terrible at these real world skills because of over emphasis on hard skills, which makes their day at work awful. There are similar arguments in the Book Software Engineering at Google by Titus Winters. Honestly, it appears that the tech recruiting process is just full of cult practices self contradicting their research: We do it because the visionary CEO wants us to do it, and that essentially spreads the plague.
@@Cameron-hs5ryI really like the story of the creator of a language being denied a job based on not having enough experience with the language
Let s not lie in here shall we. We just need a bachelor degree and the amount of experience depends on the role and so will the leetcode question.
Now, if you want to work in AI at a big tech, then what do you expect?
@@redgreare6800 you’re the one lying. I’d be willing to be you haven’t been applying for jobs in the last 3-5 years
In my experience as a Gen Z office worker, it's the older crowd that has trouble communicating. They'll send me IMs/emails asking if I can help with something, then waiting for my response before actually explaining what their issue is, when they could have opened up with their problem to begin with. If I miss a phonecall, they don't leave a voicemail, or I get a message saying to call them back later, again, without explaining what it is they actually needed to discuss, usually on topics that I'll need to research into then get back with them later on anyways.
I worked at an office for years, and it definitely was terrible.
I fully agree. I'm 24and the average age at my company is mid 50s. This is easily the worst communication I've seen in any professional setting.
This is my biggest pet peeve. When you finally get free time to respond theyll reply in a few hours when you're busy again
I’m so glad to hear other people have the same issue. It’s gotten so bad, that I made my voicemail greeting just me saying if I am not expecting a call from you, I will not call back if you don’t leave a voicemail. It worked sometimes but, other times people just left voicemails saying to call them back 🫤
Omg yes. In the warehouse it's worse. Alot of older generations talk to GEN Z works like their own kids (no respect) which leads to a lot of fights. I've literally gotten into fights at work because I've had older co-workers make comments on me out of nowhere literally about the way my hair is long and the second I hold my own and don't let them push me around I'm considered disrespectful. I literally found out by other co-workers that all the people in the office were calling me me a disrespectful little kid when literally the older coworker came at me first about my hair being long and colorful. All I told that old co-worker was dude why are you making fun of my appearance because I know if I made fun of you you would take it extremely personal? And he was like who you talking to like that you need to learn to be quiet and listen..... he wasn't even a manager or anything in the company he was literally just another warehouse worker just like me. I found out through other co-workers that he believed that the reason he felt like he could talk to me that way was because I was younger than him. Complete trash generation. I have countless stories like that because working in a warehouse bring this out of people way more.
If you work for less than 21/hr for a year working 40 hours a week no brakes or sudden closures. After 25 years you would make 1 million dollars. However 25 years later that million dollars would be worth less than half it is now if we had 2% inflation for 25 years.
This is why you invest as much as possible to hedge against inflation.
Sounds good I theory but if you make the wrong you'll lose everything everytime
The wrong investments*
@@SideLine55with what money? On average 70% of income alone goes toward peoples rent and bills
@@SideLine55invest borderline all income -> gets cancer --> insurance denies claim --> liquidates portfolio --> pays 21% capital gains tax plus federal and state taxes --> has fraction of money needed to pay medical bill --> start to realize that on hand cash is extremely important because of these reasons
economist and computer scientist here: Current trend of AI development shows its more likely that middle management and HR gets replaced by AI, which will also cut out recruiters.
Lets hope the military catches on,
Shocked it won’t go top down. CEOs or board members are typically not objective like ai would be with clear metrics. Though people would get upset with layoffs by ai.
AI won’t replace anything
@@IL_Bgentyl management and C suites dont like to bite the hand that feeds. they won't be replaced.
AI won't cut out recruiters - The potential legal liability from AI "bias" will be too great. (Of course they'll still use AI to "aid" recruiters, which will de-skill recruiters and hence lower their salaries)
Millennials know better than to buy into this shit. Is it the same crap about us
I hate to hear this "gen z doesnt wanna work" from fellow millenials. I swear some people forget. Also, we're STILL getting blamed for killing industries like diamonds and cereal.
Spot on ! Iam 34 and when I hear my peers say "these young guns are lazy" i literally cringe, Iam like, we were them just a few years ago !
@@ShaktiChaturvediMillenials say that? If anything I thought they would side with Zoomers
Exactly, as a millennial I feel like it was just a couple of years ago that they were hating on our generation for a variety of reasons.
Yep
(13:07) I agree. Companies are going have to accept the fact they are going to have to train workers. The employees with the skills they desire are not going to magically appear no matter how hard they look.
They do and they will. Immigration is all time high and completion is crazy. There are people that do have skills or smart enough to fakt them until they work.
@CJ-wh7ik when too many Americans have lost their purchasing power, the government will step in and have to do something (but that would be in a better world. I can't speak entirely for right now)
@@CJ-wh7ikimmigration is so low in the US. Canada as comparison is taking massive amount of migrants
@@Daveyjonesvilmao, this is a great joke bud
@@CJ-wh7ikyou realize they have to train the immigrant too? And even if training The immigrant is easier do you seriously they're going to have the English skills to understand the training process. Be real with yourself.
Employers say they want employees, but they really want co-founders. It is almost impossible to find someone who can clearly explain what they do for work across all generations. The degree of skill and motivation required to get hired could also be better served starting a business.
I predict a future of cottage-industries where the highest-level tasks will be handled by business-owners who turn as many tasks as possible into gig-work. Unless there's some major change in how larger companies view training, the future is bleak for the average Joe.
The market is hyper competitive, and now business owners have to compete with mega corporations. If you had a business, you would need increasingly qualified people to try and compete as well.
The problem is, is that private corporations have a higher influence on people’s lives than the government. The government can’t force the market to serve the people better. The government actually serves corporations to make sure that power stays here.
When it comes to global power, it’s still better to be a struggling American than struggling literally anywhere else.
There is a near infinite theoretical layer of contracting and sub contracting. The top companies skim the highly resourceful and productive people and the hierarchy develops from there. The reality is, upper middle class America is already in the 1%, and the layers extend globally from that cohort.
Work in the finance sector, was given 3 weeks training and 2 weeks monitored work. When I worked in a car insurance call center we got 8 weeks training and 4 weeks monitored. Which turned into 8 weeks when 2 of the 9 of us failed to pass and they resat us all as a result. Companies are getting used to a high turn over rate so people like me who are looking for longer term roles are consistently hitting walls where the training isn't adequate for more than a few months of being at the company. It's not thorough and as a result, leaves us lost and feeling overworked.
All manufacture moved abroad. You either work useless job at corpo or you toil as service sector wagie. Pick your poison. There's handful ppl in trade but they learnt it from their fathers and are gonna carry out family businesses. You can't do that
@@ln.temperr5157im 22 ive never worked a job that had training. It was always "youre hired, now figure out how to work". Companies cant afford the profit loss of training
Employers refuse to hire gen z grads from the United States*. my entire team is from India and China. In fact there is one person under my group director besides myself that was born in the US. That’s like 2/70
@@ItBeHowItBe47 Traitors
This needs to be stopped
You can't have a successful nation if all the business are importing labor
This is unironically much more destructive for the economy than mexican and haitian immigrants working on farms. Since those tech jobs are some of the most desirable jobs in america and represent a huge portion of college graduates' prospective employment. Ironic how they blame mexico for this and not big tech
Doctor here, studied in medicine from 2014 till 2022 (graduated with a Masters in medicine)
Ever since my graduation, can't find a job for over 2 years now...
All that effort in treating patients, saving lives during covid, and knowledge, only to be left in the dirt, with no money, no job, nothing.
Wow that is incredibly sas
A doctor cannot find work?!
Covid cause the death rate to massively rise
Yeah, I don't believe any of that.
How? The hospital I work at is desperate for doctors.
Me: "I just want a job where I'm not gonna be yelled at for a harmless mistake."
Employers: "Wow, you're entitled. Get out."
You’re afraid of getting yelled at? Better grow a spine….quickly.
@@timvandenbrink4461 or companies can train and correct mistakes without disciplinary action immediately. Managers can be actual leaders and not jerks on a power trip. But sure, expect no better.
Just yell at them back and tell them to meet you in the parking lot where the cameras aren't looking.
@@timvandenbrink4461You think using yelling to improve someone's performance works? Better grow basic human understanding... Quickly.
@@timvandenbrink4461 big talk here bet it aint the same in person
> Be me
> Get degree
> get entry level government job
> Work hard for 2.5 years
> Get several interviews for better positions within the agency
> doesn’t get position because of lack of experience
> become depressed
and what's next?
@@jimsantus8927 find a another job somewhere better
Unfortunately, if they hire you internally they have to hire someone to replace you. so x 2
If they post internally and say 'no suitble candidate' and hire someone with the exact skills for the role, they save on x1 hire and x1 training.
Just a quick onboarding.
Gov roles often require internal posting to fail before they make an external hire, but its easy to manipulate. Sucks but it is what it is.
Gov sucks. Life got better in the private sector
At least you have a job 🥲
I've seen a lot of articles saying this and I just want to know, is it true or is this gen z slander because they're not as willing to tolerate poor working conditions/pay?
Yeah, I can not tolerate having a wife who isn’t Olivia Rodrigo, but that doesn’t mean I’m marrying Olivia Rodrigo.
Shhhh stop asking the real questions
gen z, torated a job that was tarrable, worked as a CNA for six months at age 18, it almost killed me, litraly had an ambulance called because i passed out due to low blood sugar and they wouldnt let me take my brake
Why can't it be both?
I worked with a bunch of Gen Z kids and they've always been pretty hard working. Not only that but they're quite respectable, but I work a blue collar job, Idk how they are in other fields.
95% of the time you get left on read
3% you get a response
1% of the time you get an interview (but those don’t mean anything )
1% you actually get a job
Yes, the job market is terrible in Canada, I hate it so much.... I got bills to pay
We grew up watching every generation preceding us working themselves to the bone in exchange for no fair shot at upward mobility. If you're smart and you work your ass off, maybe, just maybe, you can attain something resembling what the baby boomers thought of as a middle class life, but all it takes to destroy it all is one bad month. A wave of layoffs, a cancer diagnosis, and poof, you have nothing.
In short, maybe we are ungrateful. The rest of you should be.
We are ungrateful. We have nothing to be grateful for. Grateful for a job? They profit way more off us than we make. Grateful for benefits? Still a net profit for the company. Everything else is downsides at a job.
We are not ungrateful, but rather we already know the "spoiler" from previous generation, we just learn and it's not that worth it to push that hard.
Jesus such such a defeatist attitude in a miserable way to live I mean do you plan on living the rest of your life like that or decide one day you're tired of being miserable
@MrStreetninja007 Of course not. But what you do is fight for change, not endlessly go along with the status quo screwing you. I'm not saying don't work or take initiative to better yourself, I'm saying you're damn right we're not loyal to our employers - they aren't loyal to us. Jump between jobs for higher pay, push for unionization, use your sick days, quit without notice if that's best for you. Because at the end of the day, all you are to them is a number on a spreadsheet, and they'd sell you down the river to save a buck without a moment's hesitation. Basically, the opposite of giving up. Fucking fight.
@@MrStreetninja007 if an entire generation are just being "miserable", then maybe its time to let go of the individualistic bullshit and take a wider view on why an ENTIRE generation feels this way
Hi, Millennial here. When I entered the workforce, I received nothing but hatred and admonishment for being one. Difficult to find a job for that reason.
They said the same thing about Millennials, it'll pass.
what will pass
not sure what you're talking about but anything said about millennials as far as im aware are still said about them.
Millenials are still blamed , a bit less. That is because key societal mouthpiece positions will slowly transition to us.
Until all the boomers are gone, millennials will get the blame for a lot!
this is how they parented. instead of teaching their kids, they always berated their kids for not already being able to do something or not act 20+ years of age at 8. Then they sent their kids to school to learn everything. Funny thing is, the things kids miss today are things you MUST get from your parents.
That last sentence is something that is not talked about enough.
@NeighborhoodWatchMann This is so true. I moved back in with my parents briefly in 2020, and they were astonished when there was some sort of household chore I did "wrong" because I had figured it out for myself. I think it was something like sweeping, where the task itself is pretty simple, but there may be things like "work from the outside of the room towards the center" or something like that. My parents were shocked that I didn't know how to do it the 'proper way', despite the fact that they never actually taught me how to do it.
We already know the "spoiler" from previous generation, we just learn and it's not that worth it to push that hard.
I think that it’s true the game is harder to win as time goes on. The skills you learn in a workplace are mostly useless and not life skills, which is why I see a lot of gen z going to the trades. It’s a really smart move. Will it win the economic game? Probably not. It leads to the same avenues of burnout, selling your soul, etc.
Life is a game where you have to define your own win condition. Gen z has to lower their standards. Not because they’re wrong, but because the universe wants them to bend the knee. Just like millennials are bending the knee, sucking corporate cock for permission to breed and start a family in a stick house.
If y’all lowered your standards you could be living gangster ass lives. But instead we are in the “it has to be perfect” incel dystopia. I see a lot of gen z guys putting hoes over bros, and it’s just so lame imo. If gen z was really bros before hoes, they would accept millennials as bros, and we could shoot the shit about women. But instead it feels like you can’t catch a gen z man saying shit about women cause he’s afraid girls will find out and drop him.
I wanna like gen z dudes but cmon. Like y’all are gonna have a serious identity crisis when you’re 30 and realize that men always like 20ish women.
I can’t blame you because I felt the same exact way. I just never had to say it out loud because there was never a gajillion guys hollering at my girl through tik tok and snap chat.
truth is, men are in this world alone. It’s totally okay for a man to die alone. Part of your psychology is actually built to operate alone. Men will understand you more than your mom, your sister, or your wife ever will.
What I’m understanding is companies don’t want to put in the work. The resumes may or may not be for actual open positions. The resumes that are, may never be viewed by an actual human. If a person gets hired, the company expects the new employee to just know how to be a worker. The companies fire workers who don’t fit in right away because they don’t want to be the workplace that bothers with mentoring an employee. That’s why they probably expect a new employee to have years of experience…. Because they don’t want to put in the effort to train someone who might not stick around. Of course, the companies expect their employees to be at their beck and call and reserve the privilege to fire an employee at any time. If the company doesn’t put in the effort and trust to nurture newcomers with talent, they’ll miss out on the new talent.
This is I think the best explanation. Several things are happening at once and most of them are around hiring and training.
- Companies no longer wish to train employees, so they're looking to find people who are ready to go, which of course is far harder among younger folks.
- COmpanies are often not reading resumes in person or they're outsourcing their hiring to an HR department or contractor, meaning they're not able to make a good selection based on experience and the impression of the resume or CV. Instead, they way people express themselves in their resume, which might be a really good indicator of what kind of a worker they are, isn't really a factor so much.
- Companies are then interviewing online, even for in person jobs, meaning that they're not getting the benefit of just seeing the person as they are in person, which can also really be an indicator to both parties on "fit."
- When employees are arriving, there is less expectation that they will be "trained up" to suit the culture of the workplace, and an expectation that they will just be ready to go. At the same time, Gen Z's culture is more casual in university (e.g. dress, address) meaning their step up into the workplace may also require a culture shift into how they present themselves. If they've been hired sight unseen, this may be a surprise to their manager, who may not realise that they don't own a professional pair of shoes, for example, or don't know what honorifics to use.
- Gen Z is also often far less tolerant of certain expectations. For example, they may not necessarily understand why a "good pair of shoes" might be valued by a manager, if they are otherwise doing their job. This is not unique to Gen Z, but was intensified by the pandemic.
I don't think there's anything wrong with Gen Z. They're just an intensified version of Millennials and less tolerant of some of the workplace problems Millennials have generally had to put up with just to be employed.
Gen Z grew up with 'social' media, which is worthy of an entire video series on how harmful that is.
They grew up in the longest market bull run in recorded history (skipping the early 20's hiccups), while seeing that all the so called accumulated wealth did NOT go to retirement funds (or any social systems), which were DESIGNED to piggyback off of bull runs (where applicable. My country has been lauded as having the best retirement system, yet for 10-15 years, almost no retirement fund actually indexed their annual retirement fees, meaning that people who worked 40-50 years saw their funds evaporate by over 30% due to inflation with no correction (which is was indexing means in this context)).
Gen Z also grew up in a 'society' where third places all but disappeared, even more so in the early 20's.
Their education was significantly impacted by the early 20's, with their social skills taking an extra hit as a result (on top of 'social' media and third places disappearing).
Wages continued to remain stagnant while inflation ran rampant. Unification is luckily helping where people properly employ it.
Housing became ever more unaffordable due to the lingering ramifications of the 2008 crisis.
As a millennial, I see the same issues. I earn 1.67x the national gross average and even a simple starter home is out of reach. I've spent 7 years at my current employer, yet despite me _proactively encouraging knowledge sharing and seeking to develop new skills,_ all efforts were dismissed because "there was no budget". Older colleagues have suggested spending my spare time and money to develop said skills instead, I trust that I do not have to elaborate what's wrong with that. Even worse, I suggested knowledge sharing when said knowledge was still available. MANY colleagues have since retired with no 'successor' or knowledge retainment plans in place, so those who remain now have to reinvent the wheel on far too many fronts.
At the same time, I hear many older colleagues (late 50's, early 60's) state that they've suffered through 4-5 burnouts in their careers and notice that they can do less and less after each of them. That makes sense. The human mind and spirit are incredibly indomitable, but only to a certain degree. Stretch a rubber band to its limits and beyond long enough and it'll snap. That's what burnout is. A snapped band can never fully regain its original elasticity. 1 in 5 workers deals with burnout or its symptoms and no one's talking about it.
All of the above is due to significant systemic shortcomings. As to why things are the way they are can also fill an entire video series, but that's a different topic. Everything we see as 'issues' right now is all designed to keep said systemic shortcomings in place, because they make the rich richer. Human progress gets demolished by the (mis)use of the term 'woke'. Young men get forced to suck it all up through the 'glorification' of stoicism. I.e. just do your work and don't complain. (Political) polarization serves to split the people in places like the political spectrum, like young vs old and male vs female. It's all a smokescreen to divert attention away from _systemic problems._ That's where the real problem is.
United, people can make a stand. Divided, they fall. We've been falling for far too long.
I like how you said all of that and you somehow never realized that the US dollar is a Fiat. If I described it to you as a Federal reserve Note you wouldn't even know what that means even though it says it right on the fake money that you think is money
@@TrevorHamberger Fiat or no, modern day currencies are a means to exchange goods. If your purchasing power cannot keep up with costs, that's a failure of the system, intended or not.
I know a lot more than I can put in one comment, but the OP was long enough as is ^^'
@Celis.C no you can't exchange something you haven't paid for with lawful money. you don't and can't actually own the things you think you do. You're going to find that out in the coming years
I'm a Boomer working with several generations from Gen X to Gen Z. They're all motivated and great to work with. Everyone is treated with respect which is mandatory in our work culture. They have a strong work/life balance; maternity and paternity leave; personal time off; counselors; nurses on staff...IOW a strong support system. When you're seeking work, look at the company's culture as the main benefit and the rest will fall in line.
Sounds like you live in Europe
@SetariM 😂 I'm a U.S. Boomer citizen 😂
I'm trying, I'm really trying but most modern companies are so evil that I feel like if I walked in and waved around a cross the management would recoil and hiss in outrage like the demons they are.
@@reneevoicebrandah boomer, right
Whare in Europe in the us it's a whole different story
I have a correction to give about Boomer culture;
They categorically did *not* reject materialism, either in youth or as adults. If anything, they're perhaps one of the most materialistic generations ever due to their complete and total surrender to materialist worldviews. They abandoned the thick, meaningful bonds that tied generations together previously which were, fundamentally, not materialist in nature. Instead, they were the first atomized generation that flew to the wind, wandering anywhere and anywhere.
The materialist culture of Boomers influenced Gen.X negatively, to where they wanted to break from that framework but had nowhere and no way to do so (this is what Fight Club is about). Millennials embraced it completely and totally, immersing themselves in the materialist ethics and focusing their collective id towards "social justice" and material equality; in much the same way as Boomers did.
Gen.Z is, in my opinion, the first since the Boomers to fracture. There's a large percentage that're as obsessed with the material as Millennials and Boomers are, but there's an equally- if not larger- share that is rejecting all things material in favour of those thick concepts that we have for our entire lives it seems felt were denied to us. That's why religiousness is increasing, for example.
Heya, I thought that your take was possibly the most interesting one I've seen in this comments section. Not to mention, I hadn't really heard about any growing religiosity. I thought it would be interesting to talk about this stuff more if ya like! I tried adding your discord from your channel, but the link is dead :/
The oldest attacks on Boomers called them the me generation. Accurate.
Hello from Romania,here every workplace is filled with nepotism like I've worked 4 different jobs and in all of them you weren't allowed to say anything to anyone because they had relative's that could get you marked or fired,also in all promotion's exam the only person who got selected was a relative or friend of the boss
That is the same everywhere, globally. The only places that don't have as much of that problem are huge multinationals but they have other problems.
Gen X from Europe here.
While agreeing that, there might a wideranging problem in corporate life that it doesn't so much matter, "what is being said, rather than who says it". Having said that, i also feel that communitation skills are essential.
One of the best advices and feedbacks, i ever received from a former boss of mine, was to take a time be more solution oriented with feedback, and rather than just pointing out problems, also trying to come up with solutions.
Nobody will get you marked for speaking, if they feel there is value to what was being said.
America doesn’t really have families anymore so that’s becoming a non issue here
@@ronweasley4767I mean I saw it taking new forms when people would hire their friends, girlfriends, neighbors, etc
Sometimes they were actually qualified but not always unfortunately
You don't know how hard it used to be when you could buy a good house with a few yearly (average) saleries, most families needed only one person to work in order to live ok etc etc.
Obviously, lots of other stuff was worse, but acting as of there are no big problems right now is stupid
just not killing ourselves to stay afloat
wages are absurdly low all over, people have less money now than 50 years ago
Not really, the time 50 years ago was basically a one off confluence of economic factors that can't happen again. That peak was followed by what was almost a global collapse of economic and financial systems caused by the factors that created the economic boom. A big contributor to that crash was wages had become the primary driver of inflation which creates an inflationary spiral.
Its amazing how you can write so much false info down without a single factual point.
@@SurmaSampocool story
@@SurmaSampo Pretty sure real estate speculation and the monopolization of everything had a much bigger impact on inflation. Wage growth can cause inflation if it's very high and near-universal, but we've almost never seen that happen. 99% of the time, "inflation" is just a tragedy of the commons among the wealthy. Each one thinks they can get away with taking a slightly bigger part of the pie for no reason other than greed, and when they all collectively have the same idea, you end up with no pie for anyone else.
@@SurmaSampoI have thought about a similar point which is rather depressing. Not agreeing at all with your wage inflation idea. Perhaps the time post WW2 through the 60s was a one off event where the average worker, in the US, was allowed to make enough to be set for life, with enough left over to give to the next generation. When you think about it, you never really hear anything about Europe or Asia having an amazing economic period during that time. Just the US. We in the US were made the center for rebuilding the rest of the world, who had nothing left after WW2. They lost population, industry, housing, ECT. Then had to spend the next 20 years rebuilding it all, meanwhile the US got to rake in money providing the rest of the world with the things they needed to rebuild.
My father worked in road paving my entire youth. He was all over Canada away every summer for upto three months at a time.
I watched him sell his soul like his father before him.
But my father didnt gain wealth. He didnt gain a retirement. He could barely even have a house and two cars with three kids.
It royally messed me and my sisters up having a semi absent father to no fault of his own.
My grandfather did the same work for the same amount of time and retired with a farm with TWO homes on the property and two barns.
He was done working by 50.
Why on earth would i mirror the failed strategy?
As a person was laid-off from one of his jobs last week. This companies ain't loyal to their employees.
As a gen z who was affected by the layoffs in 22-23:
Finding a new job was such a challenge. I felt so worthless in a market where everyone was asking for multiple years of experience, and I barely had three months before I got laid off. I had to work for months improving my interviewing skills before I landed a new job. I am so grateful that the interview was structured so I could demonstrate my soft skills and that I had the ability to learn, because well, what else did I have at the time?
I thank my hiring manager (no longer my current manager) all the time for taking a chance on me and giving me an opportunity to prove myself. Unfortunately, it seems like, as this trend continues, that is what's needed for new grads to break into the job market.
As an Gen Xer, I realized it was all a scam and made my own way. What you think things should be is irrelevant, things are what they are, do the best you can with what you have to work with and focus on being better than you were yesterday.
That is the most gen X sounding statement I have read in a long time. We take no BS. XD
You had the opportunity and the option. Most Millennials and Gen Z don't. That is the difference.
As a GenX I support this mesaage.
@@Cross_Malaki we, I think, still can do this but it's increasingly harder to do. I think this is because the "machine" or whatever you want to call it is getting bigger and bigger. It's hard to find opportunities when so much is dominated by corporate culture
I am a Millennial, who are brainwashed by the Study well, Work Hard and you will succeed and realized too late in life, none of them are true. I wish Gen Z all the best and success. There is too much supply in labor. The only thing you can hold off is your money and work and decide who will receive.
I've met at least five different gen z kids that told me that their whole future was set and that they have an amazing job and engineering waiting for them that pays a living wage.
I have multiple employees under me. Some old, some young. The biggest frustration i have is trying to keep younger employees motivated when their complaints are always so valid. They want reliable schedules, higher wages, more career opportunity... Ive genuinely felt horrible after writing one up for absentism because i understand that they arent getting anywhere even when showing up to work every day.
There is just no way any single person can survive with entree level wages so its so hard to get anyone to move up because they cant even survive in the moment.
I really really hope things change for the better. I hate the way older employers, managers and supervisors say nobody wants to work anymore... Thats just not true. Ive once told an old manager of mine when they said that about others that they probably just decided that if their gonna be broke whether they go to work or not then why not just stay home.
There needs to be a class action lawsuit against these companies hiring practices. There also needs to be an expansion of the scope of age discrimination defined by Title 9. Right now it only protects people over the age of 40 but I have been passed on jobs I’m overqualified for for no other reason than my age. Also needs to be a federal ban on AI hiring software. This is ridiculous
I remember old people used to say 'children are the future' when I was young, haven't heard anyone say that in a very long time now.
Watched my dad give 20+ years of his life and health only to be passed up for promotion in favor of a diversity hire and cast aside when he was no longer useful to them. Bought out his remaining time and retired early with full pension. But not without a mangled back, hips, and PTSD.
You can prevent that from happening by simply not eating the foods that cause these things to happen. Which is basically everything sold everywhere
I scanned all the hamburgers in the grocery store and found that you will exceed your healthy calorie count 3x over by the time you reach a healthy protien target if you just eat the patties. So essentially they don't count as meat (unless you need iron).
Cottage cheese, lean ground beef, and non breaded chicken is basically your only reasonable road. Maybe protien powder.
Essentially what I'm saying is that you have no hope in hell of eating healthy unless your aware of this.
I'm in my mid 20s rn and millennials have done more to teach and instruct me how to do my job right than early Gen X/ boomers.
I had one supervisor in his 50s at a airfoil plant I used to work at and every time the airhose would get a hole in it I'd ask for help to replace it since I was just a part timer, he'd just tell me to figure it out myself despite me never being taught. Thankfully one of the other employees closer to my age would take care of it for me so I could get back to work.
Thankfully I work at a different place now and my job is both easier and pays more with pretty chill supervisors. Though the owner kinda sucks but it's whatever.
what, didn't "shut up and do your job" suffice as instructions????
@@H2ydrogen I wish. XD
>Be me (millenial b. 1994)
-Get STEM degree (Biology)
-forced out of childhood home that I helped build ($ & labor)
-cant find first home due to peak of market covid
-gets shitty apartment w/ ridiculous rent during worst part of covid
-hundreds of applications
-forced to take job at pizza place
-work ass off for 2 years
-almost become gm of store but get blind sided by “friend”
-finally get a “decent” govt iob after worst inflation 45k /yr. Night shift
-have child w/ childhood sweetheart and think things are turning around
-child has genetic non curable/treatable disease 30% chance to die before 20 w/ seizures and delays
-have to get 2nd job while also providing child care during my work week (1 week on 1 week off 12 hr. Night shift)
-cant sleep till wife gets home (avg less than 2 hrs of sleep a night during work week)
-turn 30
-big confuse wtf happen to 20?
-be big sad
-be living paycheck to paycheck with huge medical debt due to sons condition…
-still no down payment for house to start bigger family or even savings…
Hey there man, you doing alright? I'm wishing you and your family all the luck in the world my guy. Ik this probably won't help but you've at least earned my respect for all your hard work
@@ryannamecat means a lot actually, thanks!
Guys got a stem degree but he calls the US dollar being a Fiat a conspiracy theory. Same goes for me telling him how to prevent all childhood illness from happening in the first place. That's just a conspiracy theory and I'm not a doctor
@@TrevorHamberger wtf are you on about chief I cant follow…
@dukefan369 yeah I understand that entirely. That's why you're using an instrument of debt like the Euro as if its currency and then wondering why you can't afford things that could be afforded by past generations. If you had any clue whatsoever that the money you're using isn't actually money you wouldn't be in this position in the first place
I just quit my job today working in retail because a pay raise of $1 was considered a lot after one year! I put my 2 week notice in the next day right before I had my winter break and went home for Christmas for college.
All I was wanting is a small raise and I wasn’t the best employee but I damn sure was not a lazy tool who did nothing and I literally got laughed at by my colleagues when I told them I was asking for a raise. I understand now why the next youngest person there was 27 meanwhile I’m 20.
I’d MUCH rather work on my own business and learn the skills that come with doing that than EVER working for another human being again. I really hope that employers start realizing that paying $0.50 above minimum wage won’t attract the employees they want. I can’t believe more people aren’t angry with the fact that $0.25 is considered normal for a years worth of performance; actually disgusting. I plan to open multiple companies that can actually afford to pay its ALL of its staff livable wages.
The management in this survey said that gen z lacks communication skills. These are also the same managers and executives who will tell you to "just handle it" or will schedule a 2 hr meeting for something that could have been an email. There's also their corporate buzzword salad like "synergizing the dynamics of our workplace artifacts and culture" Communication goes both ways, and it's easy to blame the other party when it fails.
Speaking as a Gen-Z some of the Best and Worst people I have worked with have been Millennials and Gen-Z. When they are at their best, they are efficient, quick learners, and compassionate. When they are at their worst, they are lazy, cannot learn the job, and throw people under the bus constantly. People are people there are good ones and bad ones in all generations, Gen-Z is not unique in this, hiring managers need to acknowledge this.
What does every worker need even if they aren't able to clarify it?.
Good wages. Safety in job and at home. A system that fixes problems for the workers.
That's what the last few generations told everyone. GenZ is the most vocal about it. And that's what companies dont like and they manipulate the rest of workers that we don't work together. Against those running the companies and profiting from it.
The first generations to create unions knew that already but we seem to have forgotten about that.
European Millenial here and Author from the book "A Life's Worth: The Life of a Nobody": Thank you so much for saying it. We need more people to address the real issue instead of focusing on bombarding each other in a senseless blame game. I gave a few different analogies throughout my book, especially in the Bonus Chapter "An Autistic Account" through the lens of how I see the same pattern and issue being constantly repeated throughout not only history but various sectors of life itself. The root is always the same, but the mask on how it shows itself to the world on top is always slightly different.
you know, a few YEARS ago i had an internship (won't say what but can be seen as a prestige workplace). i wanted to work there while working on my thesis [following semester] and after my thesis, work there full time. it's what i studied for, for 5 years at higher level. you know what the (then) recent ads said? "must have master's. preferably PhD. minimum 5 years working experience internationally". how is that possible for someone at 23? i worked and i studied, i did EVERYTHING "on time", yet, for those born in the 70s (Sweden talk more about decades than the XYZ gens as usamericans) who didn't even have BACHELOR'S, i had to have a PhD to do the job I had been doing for months for free, if i wanted to get paid. and then they wonder why we all are fucking tired when we haven't even started? i recently had to GO BACK to uni to get any sort of income (we can get about 200 dollars a month for studying in Sweden) but that is also running out. what is someone like me supposed to do? nobody, literally nobody, even responds "no thank you" when applying for jobs. i speak 3 languages, another 2 basics, higher education, for what? what did i do all that for? it was for nothing. nah i'm telling all my kids (if i ever afford to have any LOL) to be plumbers and roofers. unless you become a doctor or a lawyer none of that higher education is worth it anymore.
If saying that "45hr/wk of skilled work with a bachelor's degree needs to come with enough wage to pay rent, groceries, and utilities" is being 'entitled,' then yes, I'm incredibly entitled when it comes to my work.
When I think of gen Z in the workplace, I think of that surprised Pikachu meme where employers give minimum pay, so the workers give minimum effort. And I fully support it. I wish the era of "The Great Resignation" lasted longer.
As a society, we've done little to encourage employees to do more than the bare minimum at work, but with gen z particularly, you guys are feeling the crunch moreso than previous generations. You've come of age in an era where gig work has replaced a lot of once stable jobs/industries, witnessed the largest wealth gap grow in our country's history, and your money doesnt even go as far as ours. Many of us millenials have completely given up on home ownership, what hope does gen z and gen alpha have??
My hope is things are so bad for so many people that we force politicians and companies at large to invest more in workers and their communities.
During COVID I worked at a warehouse for a bit. You had all sorts of people there. 17/18yr olds working a summer job, late 20 / early 30 somethings who didn't know what they wanted to do after uni and 50/60s year olds heading into retirement. I can honestly say all these age groups had people who were lazy and didn't want to work but did it in different ways. The youngest group would just stand around and talk or be on their phones, the middle would half ass their jobs or cozy up to management and do the easy office/IT and the oldest group would pick and choose the easy jobs and leave the more difficult jobs to others. They would all leave me to pick up the slack and fix their problems in the inventory control department. The youngest cohort that gets the blame for lack of work ethic because they don't pretend to do work while the others do. I don't blame them for not bsing a job and looking busy but if that's what managers want they gotta pretend I guess.
This is accurate.
Z on phones
Y half assed
X does the easy stuff
I think most millienials understand gen zs. They are a product of the system and incentives. They have very little hope that they can work with the system. Class mobility is down inequality is increasing. Companies reward constant job seeking. Wage expectations are high because costs are high. Training is non existent pensions have vanished promotions mostly go to external candidates. If you demonstrate that your not a viable career i dont know why you should be surprised if your workforce becomes incredibly mercenary.
I claimed my Adhd as autism and now get 2200 a month on ssdi. at 27 i am retired and will never work again.
@@riomio7852 That's going to be the future if wages don't increase.
@@riomio7852how big was your back pay lump sum?
@@Nathan_Whaley-g8m gyuat ohio levels, wasted it all
No I'm a millennial and literally everything that would get you out of this mess you consider to be a conspiracy theory
This so unfair. I’m a millennial, and I’ve managed my fair share of gen z. Some of the most hard-working people I’ve met are gen z.
I feel that previous generations like to pretend to work. Gen z likes to actually do work and want the conditions that help them to do so. If they finish their work, why would I care if they leave early, watch a twitch stream at work, or excuse themselves to attend to personal affairs?
I feel like a good motivator is asking people what do they want to do with their life? If they want to learn specific skills, I try to give them missions that allow them to do that. If they just want to coast, I get real with them and tell them I expect the bare minimum, and I encourage them to go for the next step.
I sometimes feel sorry for gen z, they take so much shit. While some can be lazy (as in any age group), I’ve found that some have deep trauma associated to hustle culture, workplace abuse and loneliness. So it’s normal that some lack interpersonal skills. Work in corporate America is a shit show. I still remember this gen z colleague, I had to tell him to go home, take time off, and that work wasn’t the most important thing in the world. Like for him, the default was doing unpaid overtime everyday, yet they say gen z is lazy 🙄 So mean and out of touch
First millennials, now gen z. Methinks the problem is less an entire generation of people and more the fact that the job market is forcing people to live for work rather than letting them just work to live. We don’t mind working, we’re just don’t want it to consume our whole life just to avoid living on the streets.
As a former CS prof and chair of my CS Dept., I made sure that our students knew how to function in a workplace by having the interpersonal skills they needed as part of the educational curriculum - group projects and presentations, IT companies speaking to our classes about expectations, workplace expectations reflected in the classroom. Unfortunately, most college departments feel their job is to provide information not how to use it in the best manner to get and keep a job.
They seem to hate me as well. I'm a 30 year old millennial. I won't pretend to be their perfect unicorn for low pay.
the most educated generation is the best prepared to reject wage slavery.
The only way to reject wage slavery is to have a parent willing and capable of paying your expenses while you don't work. It has nothing to do with education
@@volfi123 an educated workforce knows its worth and isn't easily gaslit into slavery. hence - best prepared to reject wage slavery. there's more to life than your reality allows you to imagine.
@@erock.steady yea i know that. I am educated and have a steady job as science lab director for a decade now. However, you can't reject work if you got nothing to eat unless your country pays you to exist. Therefore, those who can afford to reject jobs left and right are those with parents who are willing to pay all expenses (which is probably the case since gen x has accumulated wealth enough to help their children and grandchildren)
Educated = indoctrination
@@volfi123 we don't all see things the same way, tho. the position you're in isn't typical i think. what about people who are used to going without? why would they work for companies that get their workers food stamps, but don't pay enough for them to provide for themselves? but i'm not disagreeing with you - i'd assumed "the most educated generation" could be used interchangeably with "a generation of critical thinkers," which it can't. a generation of critical thinkers, educated or not, is best prepared to reject wage slavery. whether or not it's capable of actually doing so is another conversation entirely.
I've gotten VERY lucky and have been fairly successful in my career as a Zoomer. What is hardest for me to deal with is everyone acting like luck had nothing to do with their success. My zip code, or my genetics, or what the weather was like on interview day have had more impact on my success than my choices and work ethic.
Hot take, I think work ethic is largely inborn and something we can't control. As a hard worker, I think it is largely out of my control how hard I work.
Ever since the invention of credit, the focus of "The next generation will be built up by the previous generation" shifted to "This generation will be supported by the next generation".
I'm a 3-year Air Force Junior-ROTRC Veteran, got out as a Cadet Senior Master Sergeant, 3.1 GPA in High School, and just under 3 year's experience as a home caretaker. After I moved with my family to Florida's Treasure Coast, I applied to dozens of entry-level jobs so I have something to do until I get a new real job. But noone would hire me, even though I wore a suit and tie.
I think employer's idea of 'entry-level' qualifications is a Double Doctorate's and Double PHD, both from Harvard with a perfect 4.0 GPA, and 35 years of experience, to be considered for a job.
Not many people care what you did in high school
or maybe it could be what you literally said "until i get a new real job". who would willingly hire someone you know is just gonna leave ASAP. Would you hire someone and train them knowing they will quit in 2 months? Also no one gives a fuck about your high school GPA, hell they dont really care about your college GPA for most jobs
@@koolfizz-1795 I didn't mention the real job I'm about to get because I don't want to doxx myself, considering how crazy people are today (insane political polarization, and I'm not one who conforms to popular politics).
@@koolfizz-1795 TH-cam deleted my first comment, so let me try again.
I'm about to get a real job, but I didn't mention what it is because I don't want to doxx myself.
Nobody cares about your GPA (especially if it’s 3.1) or what you wear to the interview. They care if you have experience in their industry and seem likely to stay in that job for awhile. Also, you need to come off as normal and not insane. That’s about it.
I recently read in a German publication that 70% of employers are desperatly looking for staff on Facebook and 70% of GenZ are desperatly looking for jobs - on Tiktok.
Why would we fix anything? We got immigrants n outsourcing. 😊
Before taxes, my paycheck is almost $2k but after taxes, it's around $650. It's not that I don't make enough money, it's the fact that more than half of my paycheck is taken for state and federal income tax. If the income tax wasn't so high, I could've afforded a house by now.
Yeah the income tax is straight robbery. If Americans knew how much and how often they were taxed, they would be disgusted, especially since this money just ends up wasted by the government on foreign stalemate wars.
I'm skeptical that it's all taxes. At $2,000/month, your annual income is $24,000/year, which is only enough to get into the 12% federal tax bracket, and the highest _marginal_ rate at that level for a state income tax (while paycheck withholding usually happens at a rate less than that) is 7.2% in Hawaii. Add 6.2% Social Security and 1.45% Medicare and you're at a total rate of 26.85%. Where is the other 40% tax coming from to put you at $650 take-home pay?
@@joe_zI don’t think this person is talking about US. Looks more like European taxes but still kind of too high for 2k
@@MG-sv6qqhe said federal AND state taxes. It's obviously in the USA
@@patrickmcneilly4293 federal income tax is voluntary. You don't have to pay it.
If employers hate someone, it just means they can't control them.
Hard to care about a normal 9-5 at 40 hours a week when I can watch someone get more money in a week from screaming at a video game then doing that job for a whole year
They’re not lazy, the masses are hypnotized by their phones. Gen z is a lot more addicted, but we all are. They just do it at work all day
The biggest lie that i, a 26 year old has ever been told is that my hard work would pay off one day. There is ZERO reason to want to engage in the system if its just going to bite into my neck, bleed me dry then throw me to the side worse off than i was when i arrived. And guess what the exact experience ive had from the roughly dozen jobs ive had has been?
I recently discovered this whole "fourth turning" perspective, where crises occur roughly every 80 years (four generations). Most links are a bit apocalyptic or prepper themed, but overall I do agree.
I believe this is something that a former KGB agent also spoke about. The elite is using this as a form of social engineering to create the world they want. Search for Yuri Bezmenov about the 4 stages of ideological subversion from 1984.
I really resonated with the final section of this video. In my limited experience, both the hardest workers and laziest workers have both been gen Z. I guess I understood fundamentally that work ethic was dependent on what values our parents instill in us, but putting it into words and diving into each respective generation's views does a lot to reinforce it. Good video
Glad you enjoyed it! I appreciate you reaching out! Hope all is well
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One major thing as well is the rising of minimum wage. The higher it is, the more people are priced out of the market, which means the unskilled, which includes the youth. The housing market is already boomers and older gen x trading homes with each other. The job market isn't much different.
Its capitalism. Supply and demand. The goal is to pay your employees as little as possible without them leaving for another job. The only way to get ahead is to aquire skills that are harder to replace. There are alot of people out there that work jobs where a month of training makes you basically as good as someone working there a few years.
This is the hard truth for employees to accept but in this day in age you need to aquire skills or be lucky with connections. Its not enough to just be a good worker anymore
crime pays amazing now, jails in my area are half staffed and legally only suppose to be 7 to a cell. Last week it was 24 in each cell when i was in. Only fix is to raise taxes, and that cant be afforded so it wont happen in my state as each year we go into a deeper deficit.
I have a degree in Psychoanalysis, as such I have no problem convincing lower income people to do the same and help crumble the broken system
I can shoplift and go home and read my Eric Berne books as I hand out Norman Angell to my captains.
Being hard to replace is the key. I've integrated my work into company processes so deeply there is no way they can get rid of me without losing the ability to operate and maintain many of the tools they use daily.
Which is why it came down to dump luck for a guy like with a minority complex.
Eh, to an extent as we live in a mixed market capitalist (limited liability is a fundamentally not capitalist concept) economy. There is also the truth that if a system creates too many unemployed people and needs are not met social instability will occur.
the issue is communication, we all just listen to reply rather than listen to understand, fingers always itchy to blurt out a paragraphs of excuses to blame others rather than to actually live out our lives
14:44 😂👏 I know. Sometimes it feels like babysitting telling the older a very basic staff.
I am 24.5 years old this December. 1 year ago, I graduated my apprenticeship in becoming a Tool & Die maker. I most of my co-workers are Youngest Boomer and Oldest Gen-x, much like my dad. The thing I figured out early on, is that they thrive on solving problems within the workplace. Ask. Them. Questions! If you do it frequently enough, they will start to believe that you are genuinely interested in becoming a better employee, not just getting paid more for the same work. You have to be willing to sacrifice your time and energy to become better at the job you do.
This is what I found as well! I asked so many questions it was unreal but it helped me gain so many skills in such a quick amount of time! Thank you for sharing this perspective
Im also early GenZ and stand by a lot of things you said about yourself. I generally consider the simple division between generations to be complete bs. Though I do agree if you are late GenZ-er for example, you would have a different perspective to work than the earlier representatives of the generation.
However, the solution wouldn't be just dividing people into smaller groups, rather defining them based on personal connection and related knowledge to the job.
Until now, it seemed like a good idea to just focus on outsourcing for entry and mid level jobs. But as the actual demand for skills becomes bigger and as this process becomes quicker - now every couple of years, the focus of resources will shift back into learning skills on the job (or at trainings) like back in the 50-60s, thus closing the circle of the generations. and so on...
Gex X with PhD, extensive experience in industry and academia, multiple professional accreditations... all the things that employers should want, but they would rather hire a Gen Z worker because X'ers are now considered too old to be hired.
Personally, I tend to avoid those with higher education degrees when it comes to hiring. Many though not all can come across as entitled and assume that education equals intelligence. They also tend to be too rigid in their thinking.
I have a strong preference for individuals who have done community service, served their country, or contributed to their local community. In my opinion, they make the best employees, even if they aren’t a perfect fit on paper.
Not that education is bad but OTJ or school well working a related field is vastly better imo as you learn useful practice skills well avoiding alot of the regurgitating.
@@IL_Bgentyl They also tend to ask you for higher salaries and raises right? :D
I have met literally no one with this issue whereas all my younger friends are struggling with employment. Studies have been done regarding employer hiring habits, older folk do struggle with being hired but gen z are struggling at an unprecedented rate we've not seen in previous generations.
did you…watch the video?
That’s not true
My job has its issues but the fact I really only work 4 days a week, remote, and the pay is more then 20 an hour make the bad days not that bad.
Aw damn it I clicked to get some validation about not finding a job and you made me empathize and think about maybe possibly trying to talk to a boomer. What have you done 😔
Hahah sorry about that
Never seen your videos before, qatched this smoking a bowl before watching a comedy movie and you earned my sub. Love it man. Im gen z and feel like gen z is just doing the things that older gwnerations always said they regretted NOT doing.
i believe louis rossman compared working today to the carrot and stick. Except now instead of the carrot dangling just out of reach, its attached to a drag racer driving away from you at 300 kilometers per hour.
8:00 - 8:11 "(Paraphrazed) You need 3-5 years of experience to work an entry level job." So college students/anyone over the age of 18 nowadays need Mid-level experience for an Entry level job. Gee, thanks Corporate America 😀😀😀😀🤡🤡🤡🤡
this was a great video sir, very well done. i agree what is happening in the current workforce & the judgement being passed down to the younger generations is ridiculous. I wouldn't be anywhere near where i am today without the multiple mentors and good managers i had throughout the years to teach me how to be a responsible worker & effective leader. Keep talking about this! you are SO right!
My views on the workplace came from my boomer parents. I got a rude awakening when I did what they told me too only for it to not work.
I did everything the older workforce told me to do and tried to adapt their advice to make myself marketable.
I wished I had more experience and more “fragmented advice from the internet”. I would’ve had a more accurate understanding of the workforce
The US dollar itself is a pyramid scheme. You can't get ahead when the currency you're paid in is part of a pyramid scheme
Such great talking points as always, thanks again, I’ve been feeling more “worldly” listening to your videos and it’s brought me a lot of insight into why the world operates the way it is.
2 points that I really enjoyed
•Different generational circumstances and how they lead people to their beliefs on work, loved this angle
•Opinions that each generation can have on the next generation and vice versa, and how that can shape their views towards work.
Wouldn’t have guessed you were 25, happy birthday!
So glad you enjoyed it and so happy to hear that’s the insight you took away from it! Exactly what I gained with the research as well. A lot of these comments are telling me I look older than I am which I guess is not ideal haha. Really enjoyed reading your comment, thank you for sharing this with me! Hope all is well
I've hired some lazy Jen's ears, but overall I have to say that gen z is probably the hardest working generation I've seen over the past few years
Grand Elder of Gen Z here (Born in 97)
You do a great job explaining the core issue. I see the same issue in competitive video games to,
everyone wants the best of the best on there team. But everyone is more often than not gonna vote kick the noob rather than help them get into it game. The more competitive the game the worst this becomes. Perhaps if we could make real life less competitive somehow some of our current issues will be resolved? However I suspect these issues will need to boil to be far worst levels before anything is done. After all even if you plug your ears and hide under a rock there still some things to big to miss.
compliment to gen Z, stay true to your rights
It doesn't help that many of us are vocal about needing help due to disabilities, instead of hurting ourselves for our jobs. My assistant manager is always mad that I can't do as much work as an able bodied person; but I'm saving the company from having to pay out for me being constantly injured on the job due to my frequent dislocations. My doing less saves the company thousands that they'd have to pay me for my disability causing injuries
I've been a capenter for 8 years, and worked with the design teams for 4 out of 8 of those years.
While i've never met the design teams formerly, i have worked with the on blueprints via zoom meetings with dozens of construction professionals. I can tell u that the design teams post mid covid have shown to be completely incompetent. Ppl that r supposed to be collage educated cant do basic math. A couple missing numbers? That's fine. Every page having conflicting measurements/info is another. You cant pay me enough to do 3 ppl's jobs. Looks like the customer is just going to have to suffer for it.
this is why i’m applying for the Squishable location at my local mall as (hopefully) my first ever job. it’s a plushie store that sells high-quality products made with soft, huggable material and fair working conditions.
they have lots of workers in Gen Z like i am who genuinely love what they do, are incredibly friendly with customers, and not only do they actually take the time to help you look for something, but they have offered to personally walk me across the store to show me a plushie they think i’d vibe with, when they could have easily just pointed me in the right direction and left it at that.
the work ethic of these people is incredible, and i want to take every one of these narrow minded assholes who hate my generation and force them to just stand in the giant doorway of this store and watch us actively prove them wrong.
look on our works, ye mighty, and fucking despair.
@10:27 NOW I know why I never could get hired at Best Buy. I built a computer by myself in middle school...
No person should have to be loyal to an employer. They’ll fire workers whenever they want. Treat them poorly and pay them crap. Always look out for yourself and you wallet. Be loyal to you. Never to them.
Treat us like we are valued then we will give a shit
When I got out of the Army a decade ago, it took me awhile to figure out that I’m just not an office person, and blue collar is my personal path for the most success. I’ve done crane operating, powerlines, and now Union Ironworking.
IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I’ve found boomers to be the most overwhelmingly frustrating people to deal with as a whole. They don’t listen to anyone, they don’t like cohesion, if they see a technique that’s nostalgic and dumb they dive on it almost immediately, and all they have is half truth anecdotes about how shit was in their time.
Meanwhile, I’ve worked with some dudes in the Gen Z age Bracket that were incredible. Picked up things quickly, already had some knowledge via TH-cam or past experiences that applied to my careers, ask questions that pertain to efficiency or workers rights. Yeah, they suck at social skills sometimes, but that isn’t their fault! They were born with the technology to instantly communicate with another person without having to talk to them. The only thing they’ve seen is people shit on them, and most were around the same things my generation had to experience.
Don't really blame Gen Z when wages are low and prices are high, BUT their failure to accept that hierarchies aren't going anywhere and you will have to eventually bend to at least some norms is just hubris. Changes happen slowly, and if you exclude yourself from the organization by refusing to follow dress codes, communicate respectfully or spend any of your own time learning things like excel, because "I shouldn't have to do anything on my off-time", well, you're not going to be present to be able to change ANYTHING. Also, promotions are not automatic, they will take time and even though prices are high, you applied for an entry level job, and you can't after less than a year expect to reshape job responsibilities that ARE in the position listing, expect higher pay, or more privileged projects. Yes, it hurts to be a newbie, but swallow your pride for at least a year or two and get that EXPERIENCE. Build those skills and relationships. Show that you can learn the system before trying to change the system. And yes, it DOES need to change. I believe in Gen Z, but I think they're asking for too much, too soon.
Jesus Christ do you people have the capacity to take new information on
Just about anyone who is pro-union has never been in a union. I have been in two unions and they did nothing - NOTHING - for us.