Thanks so much! For this particular episode It was fun playing around with the different seasons and settings and tying them to specific chapters, adding a touch of the "spring-summer-autumn-winter" puzzle of Secret of Mana as subtext.
*Thanks so much! For this particular episode, It was fun playing around with the different seasons and settings and tying them to specific chapters, adding a touch of the "spring/summer/autumn/winter" puzzle of Secret of Mana as subtext.@@strafefox
These games of that era hold a special place in my heart, not only for its nostalgia, but for the time, effort, and workmanship that developers put into these games. I thank the developers of the time for their work and dedication because they made many childhoods something very special with the limitations they had. Limitations breed creativity.
You should see the Japanese version of the title screen. It's waaaay better. I'm guessing that something about the Western version of the game took up extra memory elsewhere, so they had to compress the intro to make up for it. (But that's just a guess.) When I bought the game on the Japanese Wii U Virtual Console, I actually got mad that I had been robbed of the real thing back in my American childhood. th-cam.com/video/94NwPPk2Jow/w-d-xo.html
Your videos are 100% the best of their kind. Nobody else is doing it like you, on a level of visual montage, detailed research, narration, and music selection.
Just when I think I've seen every video about Chrono Trigger's production possible I find a gem like this, had no idea about the ILM stuff. The amount of work done on even minor background assets is insanity. As is the work on this video!
Beautifully done. I appreciate you guys drawing attention to minor details that we often overlook, or just don't think much about. It never ceases to amaze me how these developers could put forth such masterpieces.
I was scrolling through your channel yesterday wondering when a new vid would come out. I was scared you stopped which would of been a huge shame. The quality and passion in these videos are amazing. You seriously should be signed by a major streaming service for this series
That bit around 11:20 is one of the coolest game development factoids I've ever heard, absolutely love and appreciate that so much! I shared this video a solid 2-3 times before I had finished it myself, I knew would be good, but damn I was not disappointed.
when i was younger, i would watch G4, hoping for discovery-channel quality documentaries. now, i get to enjoy them whenever you release a video. please, keep up the tremendous work. I know we get antsy that you're not delivering as often as we want, but the quality and production is a tier setting of its own.
Oh, wow. Two of my favorite games of all time. Due to in large part thanks to Yasunori Mitsuda being one of the best video game composers ever. I would be remiss to not mention Hiroki Kikuta, as the Mana series wonderful soundtrack wouldn't exist without him. As always, thank you all so much for these videos!
I've said it before and I'll say it again- it's criminal how this channel doesn't get more recognition! The research and information is consistently high quality, the scripts are well thought out and don't feel rushed, and the graphics side of things just keep getting better and better! I really wish that more and more people could enjoy these videos- no.. pieces of art~
your documentaries are the absolute best. The stories of the early game generations are often forgotten due to obscurity, time, and language barriers, but you manage to condense those information so well
I have watched ever one of your videos and have been watching for more than 3 years and it still took TH-cam’s algorithm 8 days to recommend your newest video. I hope the algorithm starts treating you better your content is is the best of the best!
Both these games meant so much to me a kid and you seem to have created the ultimate historical log of them. Watching this is like therapy! The explanation of how Secret of Mana’s opening sequence was created by working around the system’s limitations was absolutely fascinating. I swear artists produce their best work when working around limitations. Thanks so much for all your hard work creating these videos. You’re setting the bar.
I regularly watch the first "Making of Secret of Mana" video that you published 9 years ago. It's a testament to your craft that a video from 9 years ago is still as relevant, interesting, and captivating. It was the highlight of my day to see that you revisited and delved deeper into this topic in a new video. You deserve my support through a Patreon subscription.
These videos are absolute treasures. The passion and work that must go into them is outstanding. You haven't raised the bar, you _are_ the bar for quality on TH-cam!
Man, to be a dev at Square in the 90s! Watching videos like yours and reading articles like “An Oral History of Final Fantasy VII”, I’m just reminded of what an incredibly creative time that was for them. Obviously it wasn’t all hits, but their passion and willingness to experiment yielded so many incredible classics across multiple console generations. Your videos are fantastic by the way. The production quality of this video was amazing.
For Secret of Mana, it's incredible that the game came out as well done as it had considering the large amount of content that had to be condensed, rewritten, and/or outright left on the cutting room floor; mainly thanks to Nintendo canceling the SNES CD project. Even primitive single tracked commercial CDs from the early 1990s had over 100 times the data capacity as non-volatile memory based cartridges did so the original amount of content was considerably larger as a result. Of any of Squaresoft's classic era games, Secret of Mana warrants a full rework; one that restores the lost content and fleshes out everything else, as there is so much left to fully explore here. There are several named characters who have less than a dozen lines of dialog each, and a lot of the regions feel rushed, empty or incomplete. The background lore for the world is also direly lacking in context, and has to be filled in by the player and/or supplementary material that was never released outside of Japan. Alas, while a Secret of Mana remake was released a few years ago, it appears that to be yet another cheap, minimal effort cash-in that ostensibly did none of those things. As a personal anecdote, it makes me sad that there will never be a game that does the original Secret of Mana (SD2) true justice, as it is probably the one game closest to my heart for the personal memories involved with it. (got to play it with my childhood sweetheart the last summer we ever saw each other) More broadly, there aren't many games that try and capture that pure storybook like essence without resorting to the kind of lazy, insulting pap that goes into most children's TV shows/movies. (infantile garbage like Barney the Dinosaur, Teletubbies etc. People think children need that because anything more complex would confuse them. They are very mistaken as human children are, by their very nature more prone to internal problem solving and exploration of the unknown than their older, world wary adult counterparts are. Don't treat them like idiots and you will be surprised at how insightful they can be.) And it's clear that while Squaresoft sees benefit in exploiting people's nostalgia, they evidently don't see any benefit in doing more than the bare minimum to reach it now that they're a large institutional international business conglomerate instead of the software boutique out to prove themselves and push technology forward like they had been in the 1990s and early oughts. Then again, outside of maybe Nintendo, virtually nobody really makes games to be enjoyed from age 7 and up without making them mindless these days. Games like Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger were products of a time where taking those sorts of risks was merited in order to push for the air of legitimacy that video games enjoy defacto today.
Awesome video. At this point, there is very little I don't know about these stories, but a handful of storytellers like yourself still manage to make each of these videos entertaining. Great work!
Beautiful work. I love both games so much. Secret of Mana's intro got me so much into the story it made me burst into tears the first time. Loved the video. THANK YOU for your stellar work.
Two of the best of the best RPG's on the Snes bundled in one video (and that says something as the Snes had dozens of masterpiece RPG's), Square were at the top of their game in this Era, ahhh the nostalgia, it was a good time.... very very good... Just a few music notes and images of the games (especially the title screens) is enough to make your body and heart smile. Thanks you for this wonderful trip to the past as always top-notch production.
Incredible documentary. Might i add that Uematsu is such a great person. Yasunori Mitsuda almost quit square soft because they won’t give him any composing work. Uematsu is the one who suggested to give it Mitsuda or else. Mitsuda got hospitalized from exhaustion composing the game and that’s the reason why Uematsu added a few composition so Mitsuda can rest.
Lovely documentary! Very professionally done. I always adore Steven Kelly's voice and style of narration. He's one of the key features of your documentaries and I love it! Also, thanks for helping me realize the importance of Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger. I had never played them and only knew of them via reputation alone, but I didn't know how important they were not only to the 16-bit era in particular but also to video gaming as a whole. Chrono Trigger was one of the games that laid the groundwork for 3D imagery in video gaming, which later on would drive most of game devs to pursue 3D designs and background works. Even though I'm not really a big fan of 3D elements in video games, there are instances of 3D works that made me stare in awe, such as Half-Life 2, the Portal series and Nier: Automata. So now I have new appreciation towards Chrono Trigger (and shamelessly fanboying for Toriyama's character designs haha). And after watching this video, I will have to listen to the OST of both Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger as I'm a big fan of video game soundtracks. So see ya and I will patiently wait for the next video! Take care! :D
Fantastic video, as always! 11:20 An extra fact about this: The Japanese version uses a more complex image of the same artwork. As there is more detail, the decompression takes much longer and ends just before the entire image is shown. The American version actually ends right when the camera starts scrolling up, but to keep up with the music, they kept the same timming.
2 of my fav. RPGS. That is so cool in the way Secret Of Mana hide their loading time by adding in sound effect, music and storyline. I never notice it since I enjoy watching that opening. With Chrono Trigger, I never realize that game use 3D pre rendered graphic but the court room looking so awesome would explain it. Honestly, that scene kinda look like a pre 2D HD graphic before Octopath, Live A Live remake, etc. Awesome video as always.
Thank you for the effort you put into these. I never knew about the intro scroll loading in Mana, that's amazing. It's nice to hear someone pronounce the name properly too. 😸
I'm always baffled by how carefully crafted your videos are! You are absolutely amazing, strafefox! Congratulations, you always leave us viewers in awe.
First time seeing anything on this channel. This editing... So much work into all these 3d models for the storytelling. It really has a nice nostalgic feel to it. Great job!
I played both of these games when they came out on SNES. I’m not gonna lie, I felt like I had discovered some kind of secret world of video games no one else was aware of. I remember trying to described Chrono Trigger and SoM to friends and they just could not follow what I was saying. Both of my original carts sit on my shelf right in front. Have I used them anytime recently? No but I really don’t have that much left from my childhood. But one day I’ll be dead and while I’ll be gone, I do wonder what the fate of those carts will be. Likely, they’ll just be tossed or sold at some kind of estate sale (will people still want carts in 30-40 years?) Damn, that got morbid. Anyways, these games rock and I’m so happy this channel is still producing.
Hats off. This videos information and quality are really outstanding. My son and I watched this together - he (7) was just amazed at how older games were designed - the music was all too familiar for him as he has heard it numerous times by me playing these games still to this day.
Greatly appreciate your professional take on this kind of video. TH-cam is so overloaded with documentarians who try to make their videos funny or wacky with edits and voiceover. You always nail it man.
I just recently re-watched your beautiful Secret of Mana video. You briefly touched on Chrono Trigger during it and I thought "wouldn't it be amazing if Strafefox dedicated an entire video to it. Thank you so much for your amazing, educational, and in-depth looks in the video game industry!
It's so amazing to see the ingenuity of these classic devs. Taking a problem and finding a clever solution that not only solves it but makes it look great. Necessity is truly the mother of invention.
I just put up a massive poster of the Secret of Mana cover art- and it's breathtaking to people who know nothing about the game. It had such an impact on me as a child, I'm glad to look at the mana tree every day with awe. Thanks for this incredible video! Very well researched and thorough. I love both of these games so much.
I obsessively played Secret of Mana growing up. This, FF6, and Chrono Trigger were the main reason I fell in love with this art style and later spent several years in Japan. As an embedded software engineer I have the perspective now of understanding the hardware limitations at a high level. But I had no idea the delayed intro scene for SoM was a technical mask for decompressing the intro artwork. The dovetailing with the intro music timing hits even harder now. I stand in awe. There have been a lot of videos released about both games, but I've not yet watched something of this depth. This is a stellar presentation on the results of early SNES archaeology. Well done, sir, and thank you.
There's something really special about this channel. From the presentation, to the story telling... Every time it drops a video I'm amazed that this is a TH-cam channel, yet it surpasses high-budget Netflix and Disney shows in so many ways. Would love to see more SEGA Genesis content, as always, but whatever it is, it's always interesting to watch.
This video brought literal tears to my eyes. Thank you. Secret of Mana was one of my favorite games, and the music was amazing. Really impressed by how they pulled off the game's intro sequence too. True creativity and effort is indistinguishable from magic.
All 3 of my favorite games were shown in this video. Not only were they my favorite, but inspired greatly what I created with my friends way back in high school, which I am currently in the process of remaking (sci-fantasy).
As always easily the most underrated content I've seen on TH-cam. It blows my mind that this channel doesn't get better exposure when every video is a beautifully produced masterpiece. Also I don't know if you're using a new mic or something but the narration here is like listening to hot chocolate 🥹
The production quality accompanied by the historical knowledge and technical details of these videos are simply out of this world. If this isn’t the product of an entire team of specialised people, it’s borderline insane. Regardless, my hats off to you. If only 1% of YT was this good!
This channel never ceases to amaze me about the amazing quality of these videos. This is, in my opinion, the channel with the best videos and with outstanding content.
This was a beautiful presentation. The Moomin reference was spot on. Secret of Mana always had this immersive and tranquil atmosphere that inspired me greatly. The game was more of an experience in a fantasy setting than a story arch. The title opening sequence gives me chills even today. Pixel art really came alive with the amazing music.
It's always a treat for a new video to come out. 3 years ago I started game development, and these videos were a big reason to start and keep going to today. The attention to detail in the visuals and script is just not found anywhere else. I have watched all of these over and over and will never get tired of it. Thank you 🙂 Oh, and if you take suggestions, you should do a video on Sonic 3D Blast. Always wanted to hear more about its Saturn port and it's (awesome) soundtrack.
Until this video, I never would have suspected that the title screen of Secret of Mana was secretly (heh heh) loading the image of the mana tree in the background due to the technical limitations of the SNES. This is a detail that makes me appreciate the game even more. Great job, Squaresoft. And thank you for the informative video about a game that is a cherished memory of my youth.
This was beautifully narrated! Some of my happiest gaming memories involved the SquareSoft games. Listening to the music, the history, and watching the art was so nostalgic. Thank you!
What a terrific behind-the-scenes documentary on these two beloved SNES RPGs from my early teens! Secret of Mana has all that gorgeous pixel-art and musical tracks that are surprisingly beautiful. Even if the characters are one-dimensional and the story gets pretty thin near the end, the game is so damn charming and immerses you in such a world that I have VERY fond memories of loosing myself in this one during the 90's. Chrono Trigger of course is an absolute MASTERPIECE, a 10/10 in every area. What a terrific buy it was for a kid with limited funds. I was able to loan it out repeatedly to friends to play other RPGs (Final Fantasy VI, Breath of Fire, Secret of Mana).
Thank you for this beautiful piece of history regarding two of my 16-bit generation favorites. Such a labor of love producing those games and you for producing this video. Amazing. Thank you again!
Its 11:30pm. My wife and two children are fast asleep in the other room. Took a small hit of some home grown and cracked open a cold one. Sitting in the darkness of our living room with the glow of my computer screen the only light provided. I cannot express how excited I am to watch this right now. Never stop Strafefox.
6:18 I didn't see that anime as a kid, but I did watch The Enchanted Journey(Gurikku no Bouken) which also had chipmunks on a journey. 10:36 I'll never forget when EGM published the Mana Tree poster and 2-page ad in issue 52, along with a 2-page preview. That's when I fell head-over-heels for SoM. Thank you! This video was an unexpected surprise.
Best Sunday ever to wake up to another Splash Wave vid. All your stuff is so riveting, strafefox. This one in particular really was like diving into a storybook, the immersion was strong! Really suited the games talked about in this, wonderful job
Just to give an idea of how large a 32 megabit ROM would seem at the time, the Mario 64 ROM is only about 50% larger, at 48 megabits. In one of the secret endings in Chrono Trigger you can talk to various members of the development team and Yasuhiko Kamata says "Isn't 32 megs great? The graphics become incredible. It was painful at times, but it sure was fun!"
These videos are like therapy for me, I can forget all my troubles and just focus on the beautiful visuals, soothing voice, thoughtful narration, and the lovely music. God Tier production , thank you for such quality content ❤!
Thank you so much, I love your series. Secret of Mana is one of my favourite games of all time and I actually said "Oh my god" out loud when I saw you had created a video about it. Thank you for all the obscure artwork / details that I've never seen before. Your videos always take me back down memory lane to a happier time when games didn't have to be so complex with graphics and seemed to be made with a real love and care!
That is so cool to see someone explaining the birth of these two games... Their story are so intertwined, yet interesting! Thanks for the amazing quality video!
The water effect in Secret of Mana is the most beautiful ever made in a 16 bit video game! I was so disappointed what they did with the water effect in the remake! Such a great video! Bravo!
Wow... just wow... Not only I felt nostalgic about old times, but the dedication and efforts in these documentaries is incredible. And I totally remember how NEW it felt to see finally a Square game ported officially in Europe. To play Chrono Trigger and FFVI we had to use adapters and pay SO MUCH to import the NTSC versions.
Two of my favorite games ever. Loved this video, didn't want it to end.
Agreed, Vin. This 30 minutes went by so fast
FOR REAL. This channel is the epitome of quality over quantity.
Hell yeah Vinny Chrono trigger is amazing
knew i'd see you here lol. love both channels so much
Wanna replay CT ? or maybe Secret of mana with the patches that make the combat better ? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ maybe?
The production quality of these videos blows me away every time. Top-notch work!
Thanks so much! For this particular episode It was fun playing around with the different seasons and settings and tying them to specific chapters, adding a touch of the "spring-summer-autumn-winter" puzzle of Secret of Mana as subtext.
@@strafefox Yeah, that was pretty clear, Square would approve 😇
Good punctuation and grammar!
*Thanks so much! For this particular episode, It was fun playing around with the different seasons and settings and tying them to specific chapters, adding a touch of the "spring/summer/autumn/winter" puzzle of Secret of Mana as subtext.@@strafefox
Nothing to add, fabulos stuff.
RIP Akira Toriyama, thank you for bringing all the joy and inspiration!
These games of that era hold a special place in my heart, not only for its nostalgia, but for the time, effort, and workmanship that developers put into these games. I thank the developers of the time for their work and dedication because they made many childhoods something very special with the limitations they had. Limitations breed creativity.
Dude the graphical wizardry is off the chain in this one. So many unique renders...
Literal genius level problem solving
The unsung story of an underrated TH-cam channel has blessed us with another banger video once again.
11:50 absolutely fascinating… had no idea the image was still being loaded and hidden this whole time. Unreal!
Me neither
You should see the Japanese version of the title screen. It's waaaay better. I'm guessing that something about the Western version of the game took up extra memory elsewhere, so they had to compress the intro to make up for it. (But that's just a guess.) When I bought the game on the Japanese Wii U Virtual Console, I actually got mad that I had been robbed of the real thing back in my American childhood.
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How do I find meaning in my life? I can't go on, the burden of liv...NEW SPLASH WAVE? HELL YEAH!
Powerful
We can put down the knife for half an hour.
Thought the same 😍 what a surprise for this rainy November
Please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please
more Splashwave.
Your production is UNBELIEVABLE… the effort is through the roof
Your videos are 100% the best of their kind. Nobody else is doing it like you, on a level of visual montage, detailed research, narration, and music selection.
A diamond documentary for two diamond games. Flawless as always. Great work as always.
Just when I think I've seen every video about Chrono Trigger's production possible I find a gem like this, had no idea about the ILM stuff. The amount of work done on even minor background assets is insanity. As is the work on this video!
Beautifully done. I appreciate you guys drawing attention to minor details that we often overlook, or just don't think much about. It never ceases to amaze me how these developers could put forth such masterpieces.
This dude was tasked with "Squaresoft RPG video essay" and made an environment art portfolio. Simply amazing stuff.
I was scrolling through your channel yesterday wondering when a new vid would come out. I was scared you stopped which would of been a huge shame.
The quality and passion in these videos are amazing. You seriously should be signed by a major streaming service for this series
Yeah, it can go straight on TV or streaming services with at least 2 seasons - if not more - of backlog !
Same
It takes a lot of time to make these videos I reckon
@@harmhoeks5996 Yeah I assume so. Especially with the high level of production quality that goes in
That bit around 11:20 is one of the coolest game development factoids I've ever heard, absolutely love and appreciate that so much! I shared this video a solid 2-3 times before I had finished it myself, I knew would be good, but damn I was not disappointed.
Absolutely marvelous work, thank you very much Jeroen!
Awesome to hear! Thanks so much!
This channel really does need more subs to go along with how amazingly done these videos are.
Well, you gotta wonder how many serious enthusiasts like us there are, compared to casual people who want straight entertainment.
when i was younger, i would watch G4, hoping for discovery-channel quality documentaries. now, i get to enjoy them whenever you release a video. please, keep up the tremendous work. I know we get antsy that you're not delivering as often as we want, but the quality and production is a tier setting of its own.
Oh, wow. Two of my favorite games of all time. Due to in large part thanks to Yasunori Mitsuda being one of the best video game composers ever.
I would be remiss to not mention Hiroki Kikuta, as the Mana series wonderful soundtrack wouldn't exist without him.
As always, thank you all so much for these videos!
I've said it before and I'll say it again- it's criminal how this channel doesn't get more recognition!
The research and information is consistently high quality, the scripts are well thought out and don't feel rushed, and the graphics side of things just keep getting better and better!
I really wish that more and more people could enjoy these videos- no.. pieces of art~
Fantastically put together. One of your strengths is production. Well fitting, not destracting, really adds to the video. I feel the passion in this.
your documentaries are the absolute best. The stories of the early game generations are often forgotten due to obscurity, time, and language barriers, but you manage to condense those information so well
I have watched ever one of your videos and have been watching for more than 3 years and it still took TH-cam’s algorithm 8 days to recommend your newest video. I hope the algorithm starts treating you better your content is is the best of the best!
Both these games meant so much to me a kid and you seem to have created the ultimate historical log of them.
Watching this is like therapy!
The explanation of how Secret of Mana’s opening sequence was created by working around the system’s limitations was absolutely fascinating. I swear artists produce their best work when working around limitations.
Thanks so much for all your hard work creating these videos. You’re setting the bar.
I regularly watch the first "Making of Secret of Mana" video that you published 9 years ago. It's a testament to your craft that a video from 9 years ago is still as relevant, interesting, and captivating. It was the highlight of my day to see that you revisited and delved deeper into this topic in a new video. You deserve my support through a Patreon subscription.
Another masterpiece. Amazing work Strafefox.
These videos are absolute treasures. The passion and work that must go into them is outstanding. You haven't raised the bar, you _are_ the bar for quality on TH-cam!
As always Strafefox, extremely well done.
Man, to be a dev at Square in the 90s! Watching videos like yours and reading articles like “An Oral History of Final Fantasy VII”, I’m just reminded of what an incredibly creative time that was for them. Obviously it wasn’t all hits, but their passion and willingness to experiment yielded so many incredible classics across multiple console generations.
Your videos are fantastic by the way. The production quality of this video was amazing.
Your videos are top tier! how you don't have more of an audience astounds me, please don't change what you do
Easily the highest production quality of any Retrospective channel, 2 of my favorites right here!
Brilliant video!
Ah Secret of Mana....
This game blew me away when it came out. The music still gives be goosebumps to this day ❤
I really appreciate you guys. These videos are so well made!
For Secret of Mana, it's incredible that the game came out as well done as it had considering the large amount of content that had to be condensed, rewritten, and/or outright left on the cutting room floor; mainly thanks to Nintendo canceling the SNES CD project. Even primitive single tracked commercial CDs from the early 1990s had over 100 times the data capacity as non-volatile memory based cartridges did so the original amount of content was considerably larger as a result.
Of any of Squaresoft's classic era games, Secret of Mana warrants a full rework; one that restores the lost content and fleshes out everything else, as there is so much left to fully explore here. There are several named characters who have less than a dozen lines of dialog each, and a lot of the regions feel rushed, empty or incomplete. The background lore for the world is also direly lacking in context, and has to be filled in by the player and/or supplementary material that was never released outside of Japan.
Alas, while a Secret of Mana remake was released a few years ago, it appears that to be yet another cheap, minimal effort cash-in that ostensibly did none of those things. As a personal anecdote, it makes me sad that there will never be a game that does the original Secret of Mana (SD2) true justice, as it is probably the one game closest to my heart for the personal memories involved with it. (got to play it with my childhood sweetheart the last summer we ever saw each other)
More broadly, there aren't many games that try and capture that pure storybook like essence without resorting to the kind of lazy, insulting pap that goes into most children's TV shows/movies. (infantile garbage like Barney the Dinosaur, Teletubbies etc. People think children need that because anything more complex would confuse them. They are very mistaken as human children are, by their very nature more prone to internal problem solving and exploration of the unknown than their older, world wary adult counterparts are. Don't treat them like idiots and you will be surprised at how insightful they can be.)
And it's clear that while Squaresoft sees benefit in exploiting people's nostalgia, they evidently don't see any benefit in doing more than the bare minimum to reach it now that they're a large institutional international business conglomerate instead of the software boutique out to prove themselves and push technology forward like they had been in the 1990s and early oughts.
Then again, outside of maybe Nintendo, virtually nobody really makes games to be enjoyed from age 7 and up without making them mindless these days. Games like Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger were products of a time where taking those sorts of risks was merited in order to push for the air of legitimacy that video games enjoy defacto today.
Awesome video. At this point, there is very little I don't know about these stories, but a handful of storytellers like yourself still manage to make each of these videos entertaining. Great work!
It's seriously such a shame this channel hasn't blown up. Always top notch!
An excellent video. What a retrospective! Thank you so much for this trip down memory lane. ❤❤❤❤
There’s no one else in this world that makes videos as perfectly as you guys!!
You know you're the real MVP for making these "the making of" videos, right?
Thank you so much 😊
Way better than expected making of - thx!
I just wish Square hadn't jumped off the 2D train after the SNES...
Beautiful work. I love both games so much. Secret of Mana's intro got me so much into the story it made me burst into tears the first time. Loved the video. THANK YOU for your stellar work.
Two of the best of the best RPG's on the Snes bundled in one video (and that says something as the Snes had dozens of masterpiece RPG's), Square were at the top of their game in this Era, ahhh the nostalgia, it was a good time.... very very good... Just a few music notes and images of the games (especially the title screens) is enough to make your body and heart smile. Thanks you for this wonderful trip to the past as always top-notch production.
Secret of Mana was my first RPG. Awesome video, guys! Hope to see another one soon.
Incredible documentary. Might i add that Uematsu is such a great person.
Yasunori Mitsuda almost quit square soft because they won’t give him any composing work. Uematsu is the one who suggested to give it Mitsuda or else.
Mitsuda got hospitalized from exhaustion composing the game and that’s the reason why Uematsu added a few composition so Mitsuda can rest.
Lovely documentary! Very professionally done. I always adore Steven Kelly's voice and style of narration. He's one of the key features of your documentaries and I love it!
Also, thanks for helping me realize the importance of Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger. I had never played them and only knew of them via reputation alone, but I didn't know how important they were not only to the 16-bit era in particular but also to video gaming as a whole. Chrono Trigger was one of the games that laid the groundwork for 3D imagery in video gaming, which later on would drive most of game devs to pursue 3D designs and background works. Even though I'm not really a big fan of 3D elements in video games, there are instances of 3D works that made me stare in awe, such as Half-Life 2, the Portal series and Nier: Automata. So now I have new appreciation towards Chrono Trigger (and shamelessly fanboying for Toriyama's character designs haha). And after watching this video, I will have to listen to the OST of both Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger as I'm a big fan of video game soundtracks.
So see ya and I will patiently wait for the next video! Take care! :D
Fantastic video, as always!
11:20 An extra fact about this:
The Japanese version uses a more complex image of the same artwork. As there is more detail, the decompression takes much longer and ends just before the entire image is shown.
The American version actually ends right when the camera starts scrolling up, but to keep up with the music, they kept the same timming.
Ive been watching your stuff for a decade now it seems. Always super quality shit man. Keep it up!!
2 of my fav. RPGS. That is so cool in the way Secret Of Mana hide their loading time by adding in sound effect, music and storyline. I never notice it since I enjoy watching that opening. With Chrono Trigger, I never realize that game use 3D pre rendered graphic but the court room looking so awesome would explain it. Honestly, that scene kinda look like a pre 2D HD graphic before Octopath, Live A Live remake, etc. Awesome video as always.
The only videos that I upvote before even starting!
Worth to stop everything and watch, really watch.
Great stuff
Thank you for the effort you put into these. I never knew about the intro scroll loading in Mana, that's amazing. It's nice to hear someone pronounce the name properly too. 😸
Yet another fantastic video. You did a wonderful job covering these two games.
I'm always baffled by how carefully crafted your videos are! You are absolutely amazing, strafefox! Congratulations, you always leave us viewers in awe.
First time seeing anything on this channel. This editing... So much work into all these 3d models for the storytelling. It really has a nice nostalgic feel to it. Great job!
Chrono Trigger and Secret of Mana are those games where I never played them, but love their music. Great video.
I played both of these games when they came out on SNES. I’m not gonna lie, I felt like I had discovered some kind of secret world of video games no one else was aware of. I remember trying to described Chrono Trigger and SoM to friends and they just could not follow what I was saying.
Both of my original carts sit on my shelf right in front. Have I used them anytime recently? No but I really don’t have that much left from my childhood. But one day I’ll be dead and while I’ll be gone, I do wonder what the fate of those carts will be. Likely, they’ll just be tossed or sold at some kind of estate sale (will people still want carts in 30-40 years?)
Damn, that got morbid. Anyways, these games rock and I’m so happy this channel is still producing.
The 3D graphics in this video are beautiful.
Beautifully made and told by your team strafefox! Thank you for the upload and I hope you have a great day!
Hats off. This videos information and quality are really outstanding. My son and I watched this together - he (7) was just amazed at how older games were designed - the music was all too familiar for him as he has heard it numerous times by me playing these games still to this day.
Splash Wave : never expected, always appreciated
This video about one of my most important childhood games Secret of Mana is so great, thank you for all the hard work!
Greatly appreciate your professional take on this kind of video. TH-cam is so overloaded with documentarians who try to make their videos funny or wacky with edits and voiceover. You always nail it man.
I just recently re-watched your beautiful Secret of Mana video. You briefly touched on Chrono Trigger during it and I thought "wouldn't it be amazing if Strafefox dedicated an entire video to it. Thank you so much for your amazing, educational, and in-depth looks in the video game industry!
It's so amazing to see the ingenuity of these classic devs. Taking a problem and finding a clever solution that not only solves it but makes it look great.
Necessity is truly the mother of invention.
A wonderful production all around. Thank you.
I just put up a massive poster of the Secret of Mana cover art- and it's breathtaking to people who know nothing about the game. It had such an impact on me as a child, I'm glad to look at the mana tree every day with awe. Thanks for this incredible video! Very well researched and thorough. I love both of these games so much.
You are a legend dude! The editing is always top notch and the amount of information is very much appreciated, lots to learn!
I obsessively played Secret of Mana growing up. This, FF6, and Chrono Trigger were the main reason I fell in love with this art style and later spent several years in Japan. As an embedded software engineer I have the perspective now of understanding the hardware limitations at a high level. But I had no idea the delayed intro scene for SoM was a technical mask for decompressing the intro artwork. The dovetailing with the intro music timing hits even harder now. I stand in awe.
There have been a lot of videos released about both games, but I've not yet watched something of this depth. This is a stellar presentation on the results of early SNES archaeology. Well done, sir, and thank you.
There's something really special about this channel. From the presentation, to the story telling... Every time it drops a video I'm amazed that this is a TH-cam channel, yet it surpasses high-budget Netflix and Disney shows in so many ways. Would love to see more SEGA Genesis content, as always, but whatever it is, it's always interesting to watch.
Masterful, as always! Thank you for the great work. Especially SoM and it's soundtrack is always something I devour on sight XD
This video brought literal tears to my eyes. Thank you. Secret of Mana was one of my favorite games, and the music was amazing. Really impressed by how they pulled off the game's intro sequence too. True creativity and effort is indistinguishable from magic.
All 3 of my favorite games were shown in this video. Not only were they my favorite, but inspired greatly what I created with my friends way back in high school, which I am currently in the process of remaking (sci-fantasy).
As always easily the most underrated content I've seen on TH-cam. It blows my mind that this channel doesn't get better exposure when every video is a beautifully produced masterpiece.
Also I don't know if you're using a new mic or something but the narration here is like listening to hot chocolate 🥹
The production quality accompanied by the historical knowledge and technical details of these videos are simply out of this world. If this isn’t the product of an entire team of specialised people, it’s borderline insane. Regardless, my hats off to you. If only 1% of YT was this good!
This channel never ceases to amaze me about the amazing quality of these videos. This is, in my opinion, the channel with the best videos and with outstanding content.
This was a beautiful presentation. The Moomin reference was spot on. Secret of Mana always had this immersive and tranquil atmosphere that inspired me greatly. The game was more of an experience in a fantasy setting than a story arch. The title opening sequence gives me chills even today. Pixel art really came alive with the amazing music.
It's always a treat for a new video to come out. 3 years ago I started game development, and these videos were a big reason to start and keep going to today. The attention to detail in the visuals and script is just not found anywhere else. I have watched all of these over and over and will never get tired of it. Thank you 🙂
Oh, and if you take suggestions, you should do a video on Sonic 3D Blast. Always wanted to hear more about its Saturn port and it's (awesome) soundtrack.
Until this video, I never would have suspected that the title screen of Secret of Mana was secretly (heh heh) loading the image of the mana tree in the background due to the technical limitations of the SNES. This is a detail that makes me appreciate the game even more. Great job, Squaresoft.
And thank you for the informative video about a game that is a cherished memory of my youth.
Again an awesome video, very professional. I really liked the detailed info regarding the loading trick for the SoM title screen. Never knew that.
This was beautifully narrated! Some of my happiest gaming memories involved the SquareSoft games. Listening to the music, the history, and watching the art was so nostalgic. Thank you!
What a terrific behind-the-scenes documentary on these two beloved SNES RPGs from my early teens! Secret of Mana has all that gorgeous pixel-art and musical tracks that are surprisingly beautiful. Even if the characters are one-dimensional and the story gets pretty thin near the end, the game is so damn charming and immerses you in such a world that I have VERY fond memories of loosing myself in this one during the 90's. Chrono Trigger of course is an absolute MASTERPIECE, a 10/10 in every area. What a terrific buy it was for a kid with limited funds. I was able to loan it out repeatedly to friends to play other RPGs (Final Fantasy VI, Breath of Fire, Secret of Mana).
Thank you for this beautiful piece of history regarding two of my 16-bit generation favorites.
Such a labor of love producing those games and you for producing this video.
Amazing. Thank you again!
That Secret of Mana opening scene with the flying birds, three characters, and the tree looked freakin amazing on my old CRT TV
Its 11:30pm. My wife and two children are fast asleep in the other room. Took a small hit of some home grown and cracked open a cold one. Sitting in the darkness of our living room with the glow of my computer screen the only light provided. I cannot express how excited I am to watch this right now.
Never stop Strafefox.
6:18 I didn't see that anime as a kid, but I did watch The Enchanted Journey(Gurikku no Bouken) which also had chipmunks on a journey.
10:36 I'll never forget when EGM published the Mana Tree poster and 2-page ad in issue 52, along with a 2-page preview. That's when I fell head-over-heels for SoM.
Thank you! This video was an unexpected surprise.
great vid sir
thank you for keeping the history of 'ancient' video game history accessible
The quality of these videos always amazes me. But having seen many now, I should t be surprised anymore.
Best Sunday ever to wake up to another Splash Wave vid. All your stuff is so riveting, strafefox. This one in particular really was like diving into a storybook, the immersion was strong! Really suited the games talked about in this, wonderful job
Just to give an idea of how large a 32 megabit ROM would seem at the time, the Mario 64 ROM is only about 50% larger, at 48 megabits. In one of the secret endings in Chrono Trigger you can talk to various members of the development team and Yasuhiko Kamata says "Isn't 32 megs great? The graphics become incredible. It was painful at times, but it sure was fun!"
These videos are like therapy for me, I can forget all my troubles and just focus on the beautiful visuals, soothing voice, thoughtful narration, and the lovely music. God Tier production , thank you for such quality content ❤!
Thank you so much, I love your series. Secret of Mana is one of my favourite games of all time and I actually said "Oh my god" out loud when I saw you had created a video about it. Thank you for all the obscure artwork / details that I've never seen before.
Your videos always take me back down memory lane to a happier time when games didn't have to be so complex with graphics and seemed to be made with a real love and care!
Fantastic production! God bless.
This takes me back... thank you for sharing this knowledge in a very creative and professional way. It both honors the history and its legacies.
That is so cool to see someone explaining the birth of these two games... Their story are so intertwined, yet interesting! Thanks for the amazing quality video!
The water effect in Secret of Mana is the most beautiful ever made in a 16 bit video game! I was so disappointed what they did with the water effect in the remake! Such a great video! Bravo!
The quality of this channel always amazes me.
Wow... just wow... Not only I felt nostalgic about old times, but the dedication and efforts in these documentaries is incredible.
And I totally remember how NEW it felt to see finally a Square game ported officially in Europe.
To play Chrono Trigger and FFVI we had to use adapters and pay SO MUCH to import the NTSC versions.
I was just thinking about replaying Chrono Trigger again. Thanks for the push!
RIP Toriyama😢