Dear Ray, I am a newbie lamp worker (melting glass to make beads etc). Your video fixed my torch issue for me. The video was well done and although it took two attempts at disassembling and cleaning I am now back working the flame. Thanks so much for your video.
Just wanted to say great video. Only one on the web I could find with these type of nozzle for the torch. Sadly, it didnt work out well for me but I was able to attempt all the steps and felt like I gave it a great go.
Too bad it didn't work out for you, but at least you tried.. it's better to try and repair it before spending money if you dont have to.. thanks for watching, hope you subscribed.
Thanks Ray for an excellent tutorial. Every bit of the six minutes worth watching. Now I know how to proceed with several propane nozzles that are not up to par. Your voice and personality refreshing to hear. All the best from New Rochelle N.Y.
I just cleaned mine as you've shown. The little valve seems to have been the problem - I sprayed some PB Blaster into it and with a small wire exercised the valve and spring. Cleaned and dried it out and it works like new.
Thanks, Ray, it worked great for me. I was getting a soft flame not a torch flame so I disassembled the head and flushed out everything and noticed the screen on the front baffle was darkish. Flushed and blew it out and voila, torch flame again.
Building a petrol jewelers torch so I don't have to deal with this anymore not the $10 bucks for the tank. Didn't want to miss any filters, great job! At 50 buck for my torch, it's worth spending some time. I will follow your steps + I have a sonic cleaner for jewelry that I will soak in for a while. I would also blast the filters with that break cleaner several times. Thanks for the tips, Sir.
I have two of them, but one has been kaput for years... so I looked it up. This should help repairing it, especially knowing more than one part can be clogged. As thanks, and for those who don't know, crocus cloth is an abrasive sheet similar to sand paper or emery cloth BUT covered with a layer of very fine loose iron oxide particles rather than with bound grains of abrasive. It is intended for final metal and gemstone finishing and is available in various grades (particle sizes) online or at hardware stores.
I don't have a pressurized hose or brake cleaner but i will try disassembling the pieces and letting it soak in vinegar water for a few hours. Great video, easy to understand.
MAP gas almost always does this to my torches. I hate using it for this reason and mostly stick to the propane to avoid this problem. But the other day, I needed a hotter flame, and after I got done sure enough, it's clogged again...
it just happened to me for the first time ever and I've used torches 100+ times. Ironically, it was fine till I switched to MAP (new sad excuse for MAP but you know, Ole Yeller).
I'm glad I could help you with your torch, it costs money to throw away a good torch that isn't working properly, when in a few minutes a person can get it working again.. thanks for watching and commenting!
Interesting watching the blue flame little bit of yellow sputtering every once in awhile just wondering if that's the trash in the propane since he just cleaned the nozzle?
Hello. Thanks for that information now I can clean mine better. I do have one question. Mine had a striker button on it, it broke off. It the torch head still safe to use with out the stricker?
Thank you for the comment, and yes you could still use your torch with no problems if the striker is broken, or broken off. Just use it as if your using one without a built in peizo igniter.
Is your bottle low, if not it’s still not really fixed the flame should be capable of being way bigger than that, think I’ll just buy a new head when mine goes out the valves do get leaky sometimes my last one started leaking on me
I had to remove quite a bit of brass to see any hole in the end. I have no idea how it got filled in unless somebody welded some brass onto the tip then polished it flat.
I friend of mine gave me a torch head kinda like the one in your video (VTK 300 series) but it won't shut off after turning the knob all the way, is there anything I could do to fix it? Thank you, loved your video, also the only one where I found this kind of nozzle ✌️
Great video I don't think I've seen one even close to something like this. But it didn't answer the problem that I am wondering. So the little star thing that is at the tip of the nozzle that's in there a little bit that gives it the shape to the flame and whatnot without it it won't work. Because it just doesn't do it. But I'm wondering is it possible to say create one. I understand and nozzles are quite inexpensive I'm just curious if there's an easy way to quickly do something to it. I'm going to probably just going to get one tomorrow but still I'd like to know because this happens every now and again and it pisses me off
Yes, I'm sure you could make one but it would be trial and error.. I'd try it out of a penny or a piece of brass. Anything is possible if you put your mind too it..
Naomi, Sometimes someone tightens them too tight and they do get stuck. Try to get it lose with a pair of pliers, turn counterclockwise to open the valve.. hope this will work for you..
Your question is eight months old, but I don’t see the answer for work. I could be here, but I’m not seeing it yet. So it’s the type of valve. There is another type of valve that you can get that will even work upside down, but the reason for which it says not to turn your torch and fuel cylinder upside down, they said it is only designed to work right side up. When you turn it upside down or sideways too much, it goes out. It’s just the design, Not your skills.
@@daphneraven6745 It was the bottle apparently. I ran out of gas in that bottle and bought another one and things work much better now with same valve/nozzle.
Sorry for the late reply, it is normal, because when you tip your bottle horizontal, you’re getting liquid propane to your torch and it will go out. I have found some bottles do this and some do not. Must be how they are designed internally.
Hi everyone, does anyone knows what might be the cause of this? I got a propane torch and a 20 libs gas tank, I used for few times and it worked perfect, I tried again to use it and it has a very weak flame now. I tried with a 2 libs propane tank and it works perfect. The 20 libs propane tank worked in the beginning and it still nearly full tank, is not empty or anything like that.
Could be some impurity in the 20lb tank. I’d try turn the tank upside down, crack open the valve, and hopefully it will clear out the crap in the valve.
I took mine like that apart and I'm getting propane up to the turn valve but it's not going out any further. If I unscrew the torch from the bottle and then remove the turn valve gas escapes out. I'm at a loss whats wrong. I've boiled it and sanded the brass neck piece with what's supposed to have the microscopic office and still no flow.
Well my torch does not have the problem of not getting flame or a very weak flame. When I try to increase the fuel flow to get a bigger flame, it always blows out. I will try the procedure that you show in this video but I wonder if its the same problem. Anyway, any reply would be helpful. Thank you!
Hi, thanks for your comment. I'm not sure what's going on with your torch, but I am thinking that the metering valve may be wore out or has been over tightened. Overtightening distorts the valve, or jet so it can't meter the fuel properly then let's too much fuel in. Take out the fuel adjustment assembly and inspect it to see if that is the problem.
Thanks! Will do but it sounds like if the valve is distorted, then the torch is toast (no pun intended). If that is so, then its off to buy a third. Sort of doubt that Benzomatic will sell just the valve. Thanks for the reply.@@staffordshires2
Usually when that happens is due to a problem in the torch chamber head . Some torches tips have a flame spreader inside and they tend to get bent or pushed down and will mess up the fuel:air ratio . The bernzomatic torches usually are not made to be repaired due to greedy companies and they will crimp the flame spreader inside or do other stuff to the torch to make it hard if not impossible to repair. But if you know what to look for and know what youre doing then its a problem to be solved . . Get torches that have a removable torch head like a ace basic torch or something thats not fixed together from the factory and you ill be able to modify it and get swirl flame tips and ect
I have a torch that the end of the metal tube broke off(where the flame comes out the four metal connections broke) gas can be smelled when I turn the nob but I'm afraid to light it I'm not sure what the part did exactly.
That four metal connections, is a deflector.. I have never tried to take one out and light it, it isn't dangerous to light in that condition, just that your flame won't be as nice as with it in..
I've got one that worked on the original bottle but when I put it on a big camping Coleman tank It hisses loud and I can feel gas shooting out the tip very fast even if the valve is totally shut tight, what the heck is going on
Sounds to me that your control valve is not working properly, I'd take it apart and see if it has broken. Or some restriction stopping it from closing.
I have a bernzomatic brass tip WT 2201and I took the screen and other little thing out and now the flame is crooked and keeps going out can you help please
Hmmm I wonder if this will help my torch heads. They flow but one just puts out fire no blue flame n the other it gets a nice blue cone but there's just way to much orange flame in it
Update the one that worked seems to be working a lil better now. No more orange in the flame. The other one is hopeless. I think it just flows to much gas
I have the Bernzomatic trigger torch handle on a hose. I tried to adapt your video to that model but no luck yet. It lights, but won't stay lit, and makes a loud whine. If I heat the nozzle with another torch it will stay lit. Do you know what makes the loud whine?
"it just unscrews" how about you tell us what tool u used to get it to just screw... it would help alot the one thing i need and u just skip over it ha. Great help
Youre giving misleading information. That brand of tank ....yellow is mapp gas not propane. using a propane nozzle on mapp gas you run the risk of melting the tip. Plus the air ratio to gas with that nozzle is incorrect for mapp gas. Mapp gas for those who dont know is propane and butane combined. It burns hotter than either gas alone. Each gas has to have a certain air to gas ratio to properly burn. There are universal nozzles that allow you to change to the right air to gas ratio and its made with a metal alloy that can withstand the heat from all 3 tanks without melting or warping. When making an instructional video make sure youre giving proper information.
Looks like I have the same torch head mine jus stopped igniting after a day of owning it won’t ignite and when I try to ignite it with a lighter it won’t stay lit it has gas in the tank so I’m confused please hep
Dear Ray, I am a newbie lamp worker (melting glass to make beads etc). Your video fixed my torch issue for me. The video was well done and although it took two attempts at disassembling and cleaning I am now back working the flame. Thanks so much for your video.
Thanks for letting me know, makes me happy to have helped you out.
This video is awesome. I have this problem and this is the only video i could find of the same tip that it is. Thank you so much
Thanks for the comment, and glad I could help out..
Thanks for the video, really helped me when i got stuck with an uncooperative torch
Glad it helped!
Just wanted to say great video. Only one on the web I could find with these type of nozzle for the torch. Sadly, it didnt work out well for me but I was able to attempt all the steps and felt like I gave it a great go.
Too bad it didn't work out for you, but at least you tried.. it's better to try and repair it before spending money if you dont have to.. thanks for watching, hope you subscribed.
Thanks Ray for an excellent tutorial. Every bit of the six minutes worth watching. Now I know how to proceed with several propane nozzles that are not up to par. Your voice and personality refreshing to hear. All the best from New Rochelle N.Y.
Thank you Stewart for your encouraging comment, hope this video has helped you. Hope I gained another subscriber.
@@staffordshires2 Indeed you have. Thank you for the reply, and please carry on.
I just cleaned mine as you've shown. The little valve seems to have been the problem - I sprayed some PB Blaster into it and with a small wire exercised the valve and spring. Cleaned and dried it out and it works like new.
Definitely wouldn’t have got my torch working without this video. It’s the only video with this fix too
I’m glad I could help with getting it going, thanks for watching, I hope you subscribed.
Thank you very much. Worked perfect torch quit in the middle of the night installing my water heater. Very helpful
Thank you for your comment, I am glad I could help you out with your torch..
Ya right, went out in the middle of the night while you were doing dabs don’t lie
Thanks, Ray, it worked great for me. I was getting a soft flame not a torch flame so I disassembled the head and flushed out everything and noticed the screen on the front baffle was darkish. Flushed and blew it out and voila, torch flame again.
I am glad you got it going properly, and thank you for subscribing!
Interestingly enough, I was having the same issue with my turkey fryer burner and it led me to this video. Now all of my propane stuff works!
Great to hear, I'm glad I could help you out..
Building a petrol jewelers torch so I don't have to deal with this anymore not the $10 bucks for the tank. Didn't want to miss any filters, great job! At 50 buck for my torch, it's worth spending some time. I will follow your steps + I have a sonic cleaner for jewelry that I will soak in for a while. I would also blast the filters with that break cleaner several times. Thanks for the tips, Sir.
I have a bunch of torches , and I can only get2 to work. I found your video very informative. Thanks
Thanks for the comment, and I am glad I could help..
I thought for sure you were going to send that filter flying across the room with that air.. thank you for helping me!
I'm glad this video helped you. Thanks for watching, and commenting.
I have two of them, but one has been kaput for years... so I looked it up. This should help repairing it, especially knowing more than one part can be clogged.
As thanks, and for those who don't know, crocus cloth is an abrasive sheet similar to sand paper or emery cloth BUT covered with a layer of very fine loose iron oxide particles rather than with bound grains of abrasive. It is intended for final metal and gemstone finishing and is available in various grades (particle sizes) online or at hardware stores.
Glad I could help, let me know if it worked for you..
Thank you for the video, now I know haw to fix mine
I don't have a pressurized hose or brake cleaner but i will try disassembling the pieces and letting it soak in vinegar water for a few hours. Great video, easy to understand.
Thanks for commenting, hope you can get your torch working. Thanks for watching!
Thanks bud, you saved me $20.
To anybody else who tries this, becareful of the break cleaner back spraying into your eyes.:) almost lost the left one.
Glad I could help, but sorry for your eye! Guess I should have mentioned eye protection..
On that part where you could barely see the orifice - that little orifice part will come off and there's a tiny metal filter inside the orifice.
Thanks Ray! Now mine works.
Awesome to hear, glad it helped you. Thanks for watching, and please dont forget to subscribe, and please pass my channel on to your friends..
Very informative. Well done.
Thanks for watching, and your feedback. Hope it helped you..
Thanks Ray saved me from buying a new one
Your welcome, I am glad my video helped you out.
This guy sounds like Julian from the Trailer Park Boys specially at the end 😎
I'm not sure if that is a good thing or not! Ha ha.. thanks for watching my video!
thankyou you saved me $30 dollars
Glad I could help you..
Very nice! Thanks!
MAP gas almost always does this to my torches. I hate using it for this reason and mostly stick to the propane to avoid this problem. But the other day, I needed a hotter flame, and after I got done sure enough, it's clogged again...
it just happened to me for the first time ever and I've used torches 100+ times. Ironically, it was fine till I switched to MAP (new sad excuse for MAP but you know, Ole Yeller).
holy shit you just save me money man thx alot
I'm glad I could help you with your torch, it costs money to throw away a good torch that isn't working properly, when in a few minutes a person can get it working again.. thanks for watching and commenting!
Interesting watching the blue flame little bit of yellow sputtering every once in awhile just wondering if that's the trash in the propane since he just cleaned the nozzle?
Hello. Thanks for that information now I can clean mine better. I do have one question. Mine had a striker button on it, it broke off. It the torch head still safe to use with out the stricker?
Thank you for the comment, and yes you could still use your torch with no problems if the striker is broken, or broken off. Just use it as if your using one without a built in peizo igniter.
Appreciate the video
Awesome, thanks man
Great thanks
You are welcome
Awesome! Thanks.
I love how he doesnt include how to unscrew the torch lmao. How do I start? What tool to use to get the torch opened?
" it just screws in" lol
Is your bottle low, if not it’s still not really fixed the flame should be capable of being way bigger than that, think I’ll just buy a new head when mine goes out the valves do get leaky sometimes my last one started leaking on me
we have a TS 4000 that we lost the nozzle , any idea where to find a new one ?
Thank you
I had to remove quite a bit of brass to see any hole in the end. I have no idea how it got filled in unless somebody welded some brass onto the tip then polished it flat.
Hope it now works for you..
I just had to dis-assemble my Mapp gas torch....it would not turn off! Inside I found a leaky schrader valve. Fixed!
I hope this video helped somewhat. Thanks for watching, and taking the time to comment..
I friend of mine gave me a torch head kinda like the one in your video (VTK 300 series) but it won't shut off after turning the knob all the way, is there anything I could do to fix it? Thank you, loved your video, also the only one where I found this kind of nozzle ✌️
Hi, I'm not sure of it not shutting off, but I would try cleaning it and see if it helps. Thanks for your comment, and thanks for watching..
Mine did that I just had to buy a new one once the valve goes bad it’s done for and dangerous
Great video I don't think I've seen one even close to something like this. But it didn't answer the problem that I am wondering. So the little star thing that is at the tip of the nozzle that's in there a little bit that gives it the shape to the flame and whatnot without it it won't work. Because it just doesn't do it. But I'm wondering is it possible to say create one. I understand and nozzles are quite inexpensive I'm just curious if there's an easy way to quickly do something to it. I'm going to probably just going to get one tomorrow but still I'd like to know because this happens every now and again and it pisses me off
Yes, I'm sure you could make one but it would be trial and error.. I'd try it out of a penny or a piece of brass. Anything is possible if you put your mind too it..
Great video! My tank leaks right where it seats up when you screw it on. Any thoughts on how to repair? Thank you in advance...
There should be a gasket inside the torch head between the tank and torch. You may have to make one. Thank you for your comment!
Can anyone tell me what size the socket is for that valve?
Ray can u do a video on how to repair the black knob on the torch. Mine is permanently stuck, or broken closed.. thanks!
Naomi,
Sometimes someone tightens them too tight and they do get stuck. Try to get it lose with a pair of pliers, turn counterclockwise to open the valve.. hope this will work for you..
Mine seems to work fine but if I turn it from a vertical to horizontal position, then it will shut off. Is that normal?
Your question is eight months old, but I don’t see the answer for work. I could be here, but I’m not seeing it yet.
So it’s the type of valve. There is another type of valve that you can get that will even work upside down, but the reason for which it says not to turn your torch and fuel cylinder upside down, they said it is only designed to work right side up. When you turn it upside down or sideways too much, it goes out.
It’s just the design, Not your skills.
@@daphneraven6745 It was the bottle apparently. I ran out of gas in that bottle and bought another one and things work much better now with same valve/nozzle.
Sorry for the late reply, it is normal, because when you tip your bottle horizontal, you’re getting liquid propane to your torch and it will go out. I have found some bottles do this and some do not. Must be how they are designed internally.
Attaboy, Ray.
Hi everyone, does anyone knows what might be the cause of this? I got a propane torch and a 20 libs gas tank, I used for few times and it worked perfect, I tried again to use it and it has a very weak flame now. I tried with a 2 libs propane tank and it works perfect. The 20 libs propane tank worked in the beginning and it still nearly full tank, is not empty or anything like that.
Could be some impurity in the 20lb tank. I’d try turn the tank upside down, crack open the valve, and hopefully it will clear out the crap in the valve.
I took mine like that apart and I'm getting propane up to the turn valve but it's not going out any further. If I unscrew the torch from the bottle and then remove the turn valve gas escapes out. I'm at a loss whats wrong. I've boiled it and sanded the brass neck piece with what's supposed to have the microscopic office and still no flow.
Gotta be plugged up somewhere.
Well my torch does not have the problem of not getting flame or a very weak flame. When I try to increase the fuel flow to get a bigger flame, it always blows out. I will try the procedure that you show in this video but I wonder if its the same problem. Anyway, any reply would be helpful. Thank you!
Hi, thanks for your comment. I'm not sure what's going on with your torch, but I am thinking that the metering valve may be wore out or has been over tightened. Overtightening distorts the valve, or jet so it can't meter the fuel properly then let's too much fuel in. Take out the fuel adjustment assembly and inspect it to see if that is the problem.
Thanks! Will do but it sounds like if the valve is distorted, then the torch is toast (no pun intended). If that is so, then its off to buy a third. Sort of doubt that Benzomatic will sell just the valve. Thanks for the reply.@@staffordshires2
Usually when that happens is due to a problem in the torch chamber head . Some torches tips have a flame spreader inside and they tend to get bent or pushed down and will mess up the fuel:air ratio . The bernzomatic torches usually are not made to be repaired due to greedy companies and they will crimp the flame spreader inside or do other stuff to the torch to make it hard if not impossible to repair. But if you know what to look for and know what youre doing then its a problem to be solved . . Get torches that have a removable torch head like a ace basic torch or something thats not fixed together from the factory and you ill be able to modify it and get swirl flame tips and ect
I have a torch that the end of the metal tube broke off(where the flame comes out the four metal connections broke) gas can be smelled when I turn the nob but I'm afraid to light it I'm not sure what the part did exactly.
That four metal connections, is a deflector.. I have never tried to take one out and light it, it isn't dangerous to light in that condition, just that your flame won't be as nice as with it in..
I've got one that worked on the original bottle but when I put it on a big camping Coleman tank It hisses loud and I can feel gas shooting out the tip very fast even if the valve is totally shut tight, what the heck is going on
Sounds to me that your control valve is not working properly, I'd take it apart and see if it has broken. Or some restriction stopping it from closing.
I have a bernzomatic brass tip WT 2201and I took the screen and other little thing out and now the flame is crooked and keeps going out can you help please
Hi, you probably have the screen in a bit crooked, it would make the flame go off to one side and make it not want to stay lit. Hope this helps you..
Don't do what I did and stick a pick in the hole, made the hole huge and the torch is now a flame thrower lol
I have 3 broken, they are now in the garbage! 2 hours later and I will go buy a new one.
Sorry this didn't help you.. you win some, and lose some I guess..
@@staffordshires2 Not your fault, no telling how long I've had them. Still learned something!!
hey mine is just fire all around it is that a clogged nozzle too?
Sounds like a leaky seal. I would just replace at that point
I have a torch I bought 2nd hand that pops when you try to light it then goes out. Any clues?
Try cleaning it. Wouldn’t hurt. Hope this helps you.
@@staffordshires2I will give it a go. Can't believe their is no repair kit for it it's a mark vitow firemaster 3 and would be £50 new
Hmmm I wonder if this will help my torch heads. They flow but one just puts out fire no blue flame n the other it gets a nice blue cone but there's just way to much orange flame in it
Update the one that worked seems to be working a lil better now. No more orange in the flame. The other one is hopeless. I think it just flows to much gas
I have the Bernzomatic trigger torch handle on a hose. I tried to adapt your video to that model but no luck yet. It lights, but won't stay lit, and makes a loud whine. If I heat the nozzle with another torch it will stay lit. Do you know what makes the loud whine?
Sorry, I have not came across any that made a loud whine. Sounds like there may be a restriction somewhere.
@@staffordshires2 thanks. Weird.
yellow bottle = MAPP Gas.
Blue bottle = Propane
The yellow mapp bottle was empty, I refilled it with propane.. guess I should have mentioned that in the video..
I need to try this just bought a new one thats not working maybe its my bad juju
If it isn’t working right from new, I’d take it back and exchange it for one that works..
Ya'll comes back now yah hears !
"it just unscrews" how about you tell us what tool u used to get it to just screw... it would help alot the one thing i need and u just skip over it ha. Great help
just look at the piece lol
Youre giving misleading information. That brand of tank ....yellow is mapp gas not propane. using a propane nozzle on mapp gas you run the risk of melting the tip. Plus the air ratio to gas with that nozzle is incorrect for mapp gas. Mapp gas for those who dont know is propane and butane combined. It burns hotter than either gas alone. Each gas has to have a certain air to gas ratio to properly burn. There are universal nozzles that allow you to change to the right air to gas ratio and its made with a metal alloy that can withstand the heat from all 3 tanks without melting or warping. When making an instructional video make sure youre giving proper information.
I know exactly that it had map gas in it at one time. Once empty I filled it with propane. Sorry for the confusion..
Looks like I have the same torch head mine jus stopped igniting after a day of owning it won’t ignite and when I try to ignite it with a lighter it won’t stay lit it has gas in the tank so I’m confused please hep
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