Bernzomatic torch Catastrophe TS8000

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  • @NOBOX7
    @NOBOX7  5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    GUYS IF YOU DROP THIS TORCH WHEN ITS LIT IT CAN KILL YOU , THE TANK NECK CRACKS drive.google.com/open?id=11RG-8ujy1UjnBWBDVCMyeHF96bxGes7W

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for posting that document, great info. I've been refilling my 1lb propane canisters for years and this has got me to go through and retire some of my stock. I've noticed flimsy necks on some of them and now I'm going to trash em.
      I feel bad for the folks who have been terribly burned or lost their life... if all that liquid propane burst out in a small confined area like soldering in a mechanical closet or bathroom I can easily see death occouring, or TERRIBLE burns resulting in an agonizing death. I wish these bottles were built in a way where cost cutting didn't rule because they are designed to be single use, most people don't like tossing them, and truthfully as this shows some of them are so crappily built that they fail a drop on their factory fill.

    • @phase1ny
      @phase1ny 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was so the neck would crack off and the flame would stop.. Remember, this is a map/pro handle, not pro.

    • @mariodavila4375
      @mariodavila4375 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you .... I'm trying use the oxygen but it release's pressure and gas maybe should find and seal leaks?????

    • @jonathanolson772
      @jonathanolson772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does this still occur or have they fixed the issue? Also, do Coleman camping propane tanks that you would normally find at Walmart have the same problem?

    • @pauldelarouch780
      @pauldelarouch780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Australian owned HOT DEVIL map gas torch is a much better design. Though in saying that , it's produced in China

  • @labrat810
    @labrat810 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Start: "This torch lit my hand on fire!"
    Mid: "I sure hope I can save me 50 bucks"
    End: 'I basically overclocked my torch'

  • @craigsmith3645
    @craigsmith3645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Don't remove the sintered brass inserts! They are there as a safety element! They serve 2 purposes, to help regulate the flow & stop liquid propane from going out of the tank, which could cause an explosion of gas. Yeah, removing them will increase the available heat & flame, but it will be wildly unsafe! These things are designed to perform reliably for their intended tasks. Modifying them puts your life at at risk!
    My guess is that your torch should have been replaced at some point, as you seem to heavily abuse them. You also put the flame too close to the fitting you were heating, and may have caused it to overheat the torch internals. These torches are not designed to be used like that.
    I hope you have a large first aid kit nearby & 911 on speed dial. Also, you need to learn how to use tools safely and stop showing videos using unsafe practices. Never drill something while holding the work in your hand! Good way to put a hole in your hand.

    • @liliencalvel6151
      @liliencalvel6151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well said. Thank you for that. I thought the same thing; it's time to get a new one. I hope this man never has any serious consequences.

    • @30roundclip44
      @30roundclip44 ปีที่แล้ว

      My thoughts, you are a lot wrong .

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All wrong , the brass is there as a dirt filter nothing else guys , get your facts in order . it does not regulate the gas or stop it from coming put as you say . your dead wrong and i am still alive

    • @easternlcmroofing8751
      @easternlcmroofing8751 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How did he not?

    • @stephencurd4478
      @stephencurd4478 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Interesting...
      He removes the "dirt" filter,bores it out an has double the product output.
      This "filter" appears to regulate flow.
      I was under the impression the 'laser-ed" hole was the regulator.
      Nice work guys- one and all!
      Thank You Very Much
      Stevie in ft lauderdale

  • @spettro9
    @spettro9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Another comment in another video had a letter received from an engineer at Bernzomatic, who said the problem simply comes from leaving the torch attached to the bottle when stored. The seals in the torch are thus constantly subject to the pressure of the gas and deterioration of materials in it. Despite people saying "they've always done that and everything was ok", it does make sense.
    I take the torch off every time, and I wear big gloves when using these torches.

    • @spettro9
      @spettro9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I actually bought it and love it.
      Got steel up to 600+ F anyway.
      Taking touch off bottle, and capping bottle every time, as I have with basic propane torches as well.

    • @dhall5634
      @dhall5634 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's just like the NASA mngt sending the email to the Columbia crew "foam always comes off the external tank and bashes the wing, therefore its fine"

  • @yaitsme4953
    @yaitsme4953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    FYI, this torch has a LIFE TIME WARRANTY. You call them, they give you a return number, you take it back to Lowes and they give you a new torch. Just don't take it apart. If it's leaking gas, that is because the O-rings failed because propane is corrosive to them. This torch will fail, that's why it has a warranty. You don't need your receipt either. My 5 year old torch leaked out the hole too.

    • @corrupter2311
      @corrupter2311 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Frick already removed the brass plug

  • @777nexus7
    @777nexus7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I had problems with the flame on mine. It wasnt normal, after watching this video i gained the confidence to pull my TS8000 apart. I fed a pipe cleaner through the main shaft, i found that an office staple had entered the air intake area. After i removed the staple, everything was perfect and back to normal. I guess things can make their way into the air intake area and cause a blockage of some kind. It made the flame come out all messy. I couldnt believe an office staple got in there and could cause a problem like that. Anyway, thanks for pulling yours apart to teach us its easy enough to dismantle and inpsect/clean

    • @toolguyslayer1
      @toolguyslayer1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That sounds like sabotage buddy

    • @NightFlight1973
      @NightFlight1973 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toolguyslayer1 Smells like child sabotage... lol. As a 5yr old I remember leaning some nails up either side of my dads bronco tires in the garage. Why? Because it looked cool. Boy he was mad!

  • @mikeobryan8368
    @mikeobryan8368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    So I fixed this problem the right way if anyone is interested.
    The problem lies in the part on the bottom you can't unscrew cause it's pressed against the threads like this gentleman pointed out. Just take a 1/16" drill bit and drill about 4 shallow holes in those pressed in tabs to relieve the tension on the threads, do it right next to the threads. Then take a punch that fits snug in that little hole that's used to screw the piece in and use a hammer to unscrew it. It will be tight at first but I got mine out without any thread damage.
    When you get it out you will see it has an oring, then there is another piece further in with two orings. One or all of the orings are your problem. Inspect them for damage and replace if needed. If they're like mine and undamaged, just take them off, clean everything and lube the orings up with petroleum jelly and put them back on. Put it back together and test it out.

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right on brother

    • @mikeobryan8368
      @mikeobryan8368 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NOBOX7 best torch on the market, I couldn't toss it in the trash.

    • @omegahelix
      @omegahelix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      might wanna use silicone instead of petroleum jelly on o-rings, assuming they are rubber

    • @robertkline5808
      @robertkline5808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually the problem usually is at the bottom the little tit that goes in the propane bottle is damaged and is not sealing correctly

    • @robertkline5808
      @robertkline5808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just take a lil sand paper and smooth it out

  • @ExDubxC
    @ExDubxC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This happened to me a couple hours ago. I've owned this torch for a couple of years now and it was a big surprise. I mostly use map gas through it, was damn glad I had my welding gloves on.

  • @anotherrant6688
    @anotherrant6688 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I actually read a lot of the recall and there are a lot of past and present law suits. The leak in the neck has caused at least two people to drop the unit, ripping the defectively welded neck from the bottle causing severe burns. This company knew about bubbles in the bead around the necks of their bottles and compensated by creating a breakaway groove on the head that would break instead of the neck of the bottle but it doesn't in a fall of less than 6 feet. Instead, the propane cylinder fails at the bead. A man rapped the head against a tree tearing the parent metal of the canister from the neck, igniting the bottle and burning him badly. Some bottle necks were braised instead of being discarded and were offered for sale at stores. There have been fatalities.

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah that was that guys fault , you dont bang a lit torch against things , he had it comming , i dont think they should be responsible for thta kind of negligents

    • @shaneintegra
      @shaneintegra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@NOBOX7 if your torch kills or disfigures you... Everyone is going to say the exact same thing. "He shouldn't have opened it up and messed with the insides, that's his fault" lol

    • @juancamaney3562
      @juancamaney3562 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NOBOX7 Great awesome video 👍 Go ahead and barrow a fireman's suit and drill a next step bigger whole on that sintered brass and then light it up, can't wait for your next video 🤣

    • @labrat810
      @labrat810 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NOBOX7 It's a complicated case when misuse and abuse is greatly exacerbated by manufacturer-known (and ignored) defects.

  • @stephencurd4478
    @stephencurd4478 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    After using my ts4000 for about 6 plus years- suddenly i have exactly the same blowout.
    A whole bottle leaked in one afternoon.then the flareup,worse each time.
    Thanks again for your approach.
    I will "jet" my torch next and go up one drill size.great work.
    Thx again stevie in ft lauderdale

  • @Tony-cf8re
    @Tony-cf8re 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Blocking the vent with a small screw is defo not the answer its there so the pressure regulator thats in the handle that has atmospheric pressure on one side . if you block it gas will come down the threads and it will come out between tank and torch (it makes you think the tank seal is faulty) once its fixed you can leave the tank on permanently without problem and can easily be fixed again ..... here is the Fix:- remove the tank and the seal in the torch . You will find 2 indents (there to stop you fixing it ) Drill 2 holes at the side of them and with a pair of long nosed pointed pliers in the vice located in the 2 holes you've drilled unscrew the internals which is the regulator . You now need to change the "o" rings.. (mine was the small one ) clean up the threads on the body so if you need to do it again and reassemble it . Its the same as Rothenberg who tell you to buy a new one 😞 basically they have used the wrong "o" ring and nowt to do with the tank being perm on

  • @mihaiilie8808
    @mihaiilie8808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Be safe! I learned a lot and got inspiration from your channel ,to build an oil burner for my small metal foundry.
    Today i bought this Bernzomatic burner for brazing and on mein says its made in USA ,Wisconsin.
    Its made in 2019 and has a series and WI under the lock button.
    Says Chilton Wi.

  • @totallyfrozen
    @totallyfrozen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For class today, kids, we’re going to watch NOBOX’s shop safety video. LMAO!!! 🤣
    👍🏻

  • @Jmuhung
    @Jmuhung 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    just bought a brand new one..and it does exactly that. Thanks for posting..

    • @anotherrant6688
      @anotherrant6688 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Return it. DON'T USE IT. There's a recall.

  • @TinManOne9
    @TinManOne9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That looked like back draft pressure that caused that torch to ignite - after watching the video, it kinda looks like improper use - not to take the side of bernzomatic, but being a firefighter for many years, you see some things - you "tinkering" and " altering" it doesnt help your case or the situation - just an outside perspective.....

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah its my fault the torch spued gas out a hole in the side ? and no this wasnt a backdraft bro , thats a lack of oxygen thing

    • @philldownes8685
      @philldownes8685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NOBOX7 your problem was the seal between gas bottle and the torch. it was not a problem in the torch itself. its the small brass tit that goes in the bottle did not seal, so you then get gas escaping and instead of going through the brass piece it went up into body and out of the hole.. its designed to do this and yes its stupid , but it has to have that as a fail safe. to me its not a fail safe when it burns like yours did..... normally it would be a extremely small amount of gas, but to me the best thing would be to get another torch and melt some alloy in that hole. or thread it and put a bolt in with some sealer....

    • @bundy3795
      @bundy3795 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree fully, backdraught issue, sticking the torch end into pipe… defiantly operator error

    • @adambrozek3116
      @adambrozek3116 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just got the same problem. Same torch. Working fine for some time. Than suddenly blows gas in the side. And it did it without touching it not an user error.

  • @pingpong9656
    @pingpong9656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm thinking the idea of the hole is to ensure propane can escape the handle area - if you get liquid propane in the handle it now has nowhere to go and will explode. Also, I hope the bit you drilled out was not a fire arrestor... you definitely don't want the flame to go into the tank when it gets low... don't get me wrong - I love your video, but always good to be safe too!

  • @susangott1346
    @susangott1346 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never thought about that. Thanks for the info. After reading the comments and seeing the video, I know it’s a miracle I haven’t had a dangerous situation arise yet. Now I will prevent that.

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice fish , do you throw them back or eat ?
      fried fish is gotta be one of the most delishes foods . No i cannot spell

  • @johnw1883
    @johnw1883 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the same design torch, different brand "sure fire T111" Same issue started gushing out the weep hole on the neck. I have always left the bottle connected, never an issue in the 25 years I've had it. Keep it in the tool box on my truck in the garage all year. It emptied entire bottle of mapp gas. Luckily no ignition source when it filled a confined space. I don't recommend altering the torch at all given the explosive rick factor. Also plugging the weep hole only makes the gas escape around the red start button and the hold button and the rube where the ignition wire is housed.

    • @heavyhauler213
      @heavyhauler213 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya I was lightning a cigarette in my mouth when I found the little hole decided TO LIGHT MY ENTIRE FACE ON FIRE AND MELTED MY BEARD OFF BLISTERS AND RED SKID . PLASTIC MELTED BLOBS MADE OUT OF HAIR . LOOKED PRETTY STUPID ON ME INDOORS AT WORK .. what the fuk

    • @heavyhauler213
      @heavyhauler213 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh mine was map gas and the failure was the thread sealant BTW. 4000 model

  • @fireandcopper
    @fireandcopper 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Apparently if you keep the tank attached to the bottle when not in use it fatigues the gasket/o-ring

  • @RedShiftedDollar
    @RedShiftedDollar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    That hole appears to be a weep hole to vent any internal leaks. Plugging the hole without fixing the leaks is asking for a worse safety problem.

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its just a regulator vent , no big deal

    • @RedShiftedDollar
      @RedShiftedDollar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NOBOX7 yeah, you’re right. It’s crazy they put that right where your fingers go. Also, that sintered brass mesh appears to be a flashback arrester to prevent a flame from propagating back into the tank. I wouldn’t remove that.

    • @melaniecotterell8263
      @melaniecotterell8263 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I heard a story of a powerhouse flood caused by plugging the weep hole on a hydraulic control valve which caused the valve to shuttle which released an axial seal ring on a turbine shut-off valve on a turbine open for maintenance. Never block weep or vent holes.

    • @RedShiftedDollar
      @RedShiftedDollar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@melaniecotterell8263 So the hydraulically controlled shut off valve experienced pressure fluctuations that caused it to open and close rapidly, resulting in a seal failure? Then the valve was stuck open which would normally allow steam to flow, but since it was down for maintenance, the boilers were cool so water flowed instead?
      Or was this a hydroelectric turbine?

  • @contessa.adella
    @contessa.adella 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hmmm, my Rothenberger Superfire 2 looks to be the identical build to this torch. Ok…so in future, spit on your finger tip and lightly press over that little hole….if it’s leaking you’ll see bubbles forming. Other than that, secure a length of brass tube into that little hole….that means gas can still vent if it needs to, but away from your fingers. Of course gas should not be venting period, right! My takeaway is this: Don’t store with bottle attached. Don’t drop the unit or chuck heavy things upon it. Visually examine the bottle seal periodically. Don’t tilt it over too much in use…like maybe no more than 45deg. If any part is not working correctly….bin the torch cos it’s better than plastic surgery.

  • @georgeeaklor3442
    @georgeeaklor3442 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for the video. I wasn't thinking about how the spark got to flame, thought it was near the bottom of the tube. I've got the turbo torch 504 and was having problems with the igniter and found that the wires coming from the tube wasn't touching the base plate where they connect. played with it a few times and wala, it started working more often than before. BTW, I've got the one that has multi tubes you can put on the body, so I guess they're just designed a little weird and that's why they don't fire every time.

  • @jr42a1
    @jr42a1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Get a brand new $35 Turbo torch on ebay. They are well worth it. Comes with spark ignitor in the handle and a 6' hose so you don't have to have a bottle hanging in our way

  • @shagara65
    @shagara65 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lucky you still have your hand!

  • @keithnoneya6730
    @keithnoneya6730 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, dude your like so unsafe it's crazy. But I loved the video, it was very entertaining and informative. I thought for so you were going to run that drill through you hand. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @cheath8705
    @cheath8705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own a TS7000 for many years and it never let me down. Problem started cropping up when I used a hose to hook to 30 gal propane tank. I think the oil plasticizer got in. I managed to flush it a bit and it seem to work but never the same. Holding it upside down and getting liquid propane in does not hurt it. At least never in mine. I am still using it. Just hoping it doesn't go out.

  • @randylee249
    @randylee249 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I had a different type of torch that did the same thing it was the O-ring in the propane bottle itself I replace the O-ring and it worked fine .

  • @ARCSTREAMS
    @ARCSTREAMS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    after your fix does it work inverted?

  • @victoriam586
    @victoriam586 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You had no idea what it was, what was on the inner bit of it, and you just.. plugged it with cement and plunged in a screw. You're lucky you still have fingers. In case you're wondering, the hole's a pressure regulator - it keeps it running smoothly when holding it sideways and such. You should've tried cleaning the internals before plugging it, since dirt's your likely culprit there.. cleaning your torch once in a while isn't just a cosmetic thing :I
    About the ignition-testing, by the way, you can just unscrew the tip and watch the igniter to verify it without having to flood your workspace with stink. I'd guess you probably just didn't have good contact for it on first reassembly.

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      it worked so long as not upside down , and no it cant blow off your fingers

    • @victoriam586
      @victoriam586 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@NOBOX7 Dropping it while it's lit can kill you, in your own words. Potentially compromising the head's integrity isn't much better.
      I get it, you're a professional, you have experience with this stuff and feel you know better than some random bitch on the Internet. Could even be true, but don't forget how many seasoned workshop veterans get injured by complacency and "knowing what they're doing". As long as you're human you're still at risk, please don't let yourself get hurt.

  • @leovela3044
    @leovela3044 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANY YOU FOR SHARING THIS MAN, BUT IF YOU PLAY WITH FIRE 🔥, GUESS WHAT? SO PROCEDE WITH CAUTION, I ALWAYS WEAR PPE AND I RIDE WITH MY HELMET, SHALOM FROM THE BLUEGRASS

  • @lilodog8107
    @lilodog8107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's "fixed", but would you use it if you were working off a ladder or an experimental liquid fuel burner? Will it be a "$50" screw or a $50,000 hospital bill?

  • @davidleslie949
    @davidleslie949 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the video. I found it very informative and entertaining at the same time. However, you've probably already figured out why your torch caught on fire? It was simply because you turned the propane bottle on its side which then caused pure liquid propane to come out of the torch evacuation escape hole at the bottom of your torch handle rather than trying to escape at the top of the torch, which might not end up well? Typically the liquid propane wouldn't ignite but I think you had a lot going on with your experiment & Murphy's Law took hold. Propane has a boiling point of -40°. Once it reaches anything warmer (Atmosphere) it immediately boils and therefore easily ignited by a flame unintentionally nearby. Take care and stay safe please!

  • @lprkon72
    @lprkon72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Spud does not control flow rate the regulator as it's called is at the base of the neck, if u pull it off the body you'll see a fitting with about a 1/4 mm hole that controls flow rate the piece u took out with the channel locks is the regulator what you drilled is a filter to keep the regulator from getting clogged. Inadition that piece of brass in that bottom spit is the burn back arrestor that's what will keep the flame from reaching the bottle

  • @ARCSTREAMS
    @ARCSTREAMS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    have you had any leak issues keeping it attached to the tank for every day use or less frequent use cause i heard some ppl leave it for a year and find it has leaked all the gas out maybe cause the rig seal dried up ,would this seal be in the torch body or the tank itself?

  • @m3sca1
    @m3sca1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those bottles use a BOM fitting. I think they are referring to the tip on the warning label. I have the same torch. Have always preferred the Bernzomatic...can't buy them anymore from the big hardware store. I think that is a safety release in case the bottle was in a fire. That handle has seen some heat.

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this is a great torch even though it failed on me at least i got it fixed , i applaud them for making the frame out of solid steel

  • @johndelponte316
    @johndelponte316 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just buy another I think your hand is worth more than fifty bucks

  • @braxtonravndal8768
    @braxtonravndal8768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that weep hole "starting your hand on fire" probably saved your life

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only an idiot would say that but ok bra

    • @heavyhauler213
      @heavyhauler213 ปีที่แล้ว

      No you're the idiot that 100 % correct . Don't talk shit stupid

  • @vetalvet3817
    @vetalvet3817 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I drilled 2 holes, 4 mm deep, and inserted snap ring pliers, and with difficulty unscrewed them... replaced 1 ring and everything was ok!!!!

  • @bobsquires4521
    @bobsquires4521 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I taped three of the four vent holes and the small opening which burned you badly and it is working fine now. There must be some obstruction for the gas so it's getting where it needs to get for the while - till I can figure out how to make it run properly without all of the tape. Good nuf.. any suggestions?

    • @anotherrant6688
      @anotherrant6688 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      RETURN IT. It's dangerous manufacturer's defect. Recall number 12-117.

  • @solarsynapse
    @solarsynapse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't those have a lifetime warranty?

  • @vtjmproductionsusa2390
    @vtjmproductionsusa2390 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Totally irresponsible making modifications, to a device you know nothing about. Who are you to call a design flaw? are you a torch engineer? If not you could be in dangerous situation using that torch now after you modified it. Please people DO NOT COPY THIS Modification.
    Be SAFE.l

  • @obfuscated3090
    @obfuscated3090 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are far better torch options but these turds still sell for some reason. When I get one in an auction lot of torches I actually want I treat it like the cutting heads on no-name acetylene torches (famous for mixer fires and poor machining) by smashing it then it gets recycled so no one else is at risk.
    The Turbotorch STK basic torch in your other video is good and the classic Turbotorch with regulator and hose is far more versatile and reliable (and fine to buy used). I collect and rebuilt US-made industrial torches to use and the further one gets away from consumer kit the easier life becomes.

  • @veelink6345
    @veelink6345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a real one but amazon and ebay is selling the recalled and fake ones with no labeling on them. What caused this is the little needle valve pin getting stuch open inside the bottle nipple. Same thing happened to me and I burnt the hell out my finger but of course I got mine off amazon and its not a benzo so I cant sue anyone for my suffering. Also I was lighting my fire place inside my house it could have went very badly and I could lost my house if I wasn't as quick to pull off the bottle like I did I could see others just panic and throw it then they have basiclly a live bomb ready to explode at any second

  • @mattalancornelison
    @mattalancornelison 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Gloves?

  • @TheJACKCOLORADO
    @TheJACKCOLORADO 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh, yeah. I'm down with the $50 screw. Doing that right now. Thanks again.

  • @owood5243
    @owood5243 ปีที่แล้ว

    The reason it didn't spark was because when torn apart the wire connection for the spark either grounding out or the spring wasn't making contact with wire from the striker. Being dirty doesn't matter.

  • @wadebarnes6720
    @wadebarnes6720 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have bought a couple different torches I would like to be able to buy one it would last at least a year all I use it for is lighting my bee smoker and starting the fire in my house and yes sometimes I leave in your car sometimes I'll leave it outside but still as much as you pay for one it ought to last a year if you recommend this one let me know

  • @johnnyzsalt5374
    @johnnyzsalt5374 ปีที่แล้ว

    A Bernzomatic has to be the best dab torch ever made. Not sure of they were intending this, but it happened.

    • @BlondieSL
      @BlondieSL ปีที่แล้ว

      I've only heard of this happening on the cheaper models when they were mistreated.
      This guy admits that he's dropped it a few times and even the tip that goes into the tank got notched.
      I have a feeling that this was the main problem. Not a "defect" in the actual torch itself.
      If there was an actual defect, the news of that would be all over the internet in a huge way. Even up to Government standards.
      I'm buying one tomorrow.

  • @randy1203
    @randy1203 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's no wonder there was a blow back of flames. Judging from the beaten damaged appearance of the torch head. You've trashed your equipment. Dicard it and purchase a new one, lesson learned!!!!

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didnt trash any thing but thanks for telling us who you are .

  • @B.Cote39
    @B.Cote39 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This happened to me with the newer model as well, luckly i didnt panic and just blew it out and u screwed , only slight BBQ of bare hand lol but left me a bit pissed that this hole is supposedly a safty feature 🙄 it has been ok last few bottles but recently acting up again . If you have one of these listen for leaks as you hook torch to bottle !

  • @heliski989
    @heliski989 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do you think that is a safety precaution so that the torch doesn't explode in your hand?

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      turns out its a vent for the pressure regulator

    • @MattJonesYT
      @MattJonesYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The precaution is to not use that torch!

  • @muppit666
    @muppit666 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had that happen to me with a Rothenberger Surefire 2. Bloody dangerous.

  • @imjeffvaderofficial
    @imjeffvaderofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    DO NOT on Earth remove the "sintered brass" "mesh" stuff.
    It is used as flame arrestor.

    • @ruen99
      @ruen99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about Mars?

    • @imjeffvaderofficial
      @imjeffvaderofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ruen99 good question.
      Since this torch does not supply its own oxygen, and given that, to our current implanted knowledge, there is no oxygen in the atmosphere (if any) on Mars, attempting to use such a torch with the porous brass flame arrestor thing poses no actual danger (if of any use anyway).

  • @expTRM
    @expTRM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Are you still alive and use the same modified torch? :)
    Got the same issue with two some years old torches (ts8000 and ts4000), ordered two new, ts8000 and ts4500hs, both of the new torches have the same isse from day zero! I ordered those from US to Europe, so because of shipping costs i can't even bang those torches on bernzomatics head.
    Is closing the hole a safe fix?
    Thansk in advance

  • @lorakaelber8067
    @lorakaelber8067 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please tell me if a popping sound and blue flame coming out the holes in the brass neck when you turn it off, is normal?

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no you may have something stuck n the nozzle maybe a bug

  • @getoutside8202
    @getoutside8202 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just did a similar plug in my torch. I used two set screws and mashed rubber together between them. Is your torch still working the way you fixed it?

  • @flashcraft
    @flashcraft 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    " a secret feature." Ha!, I love it.

  • @DrWarped
    @DrWarped 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The hole youi plugged id there for a reason- it is safety! it is like a overflow valve it your tank is not fitted correctly or the threads have obtained damage, a leaking seal etc. it is to relieve any back pressure that can result in you catching fire! You just made a bomb self igniting bomb! P.S. take the tank off after use or you will weaken the seal! BOOM!

  • @tichij9070
    @tichij9070 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Доброй ночи. У меня ЯТО 36715,похоже,тоже Китай,уже вторая.
    Работала более-менее,нормально. После падения перестало щёлкать в ручке при подключении и отсоединения баллона,и плюётся,как верблюд.
    Кто-нибудь подскажет,как устранить,она новая. Спасибо.

  • @larryphillips4164
    @larryphillips4164 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    HELL YEAH BROTHER WE GOT OURSELVES A GODDAMN RIPPER NOW!!! 😂😂

  • @HavanaWoody
    @HavanaWoody 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn it! I have had a ts-4000 for 10 years, always with a bottle of map gas. I use it for everything from brazing to lighting charcoal and in the kitchen to peel peaches peppers and tomatoes . The only issue I have had was the upper connection that is held tight by a small set screw. It definitely has taken a few tumbles . I HOPE THE ISSUES ARE WITH THE MODELS AFTER MINE.

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the input

  • @sonet1231
    @sonet1231 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had VZ gas out the little hole also. Don’t know why , I brought a new one, but been meaning to call the company

  • @horatiuimbuzan1452
    @horatiuimbuzan1452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    En la parte inferior en la unión de la bombona con el soplete debajo de la goma de 3/4 la piesa que ves de latón se desenrosca con Oña llave especial y hay que pasar con la fresa en dos citios donde se ve el latón golpeado así se desenrosca todo el mecanismo

  • @kaloosh2639
    @kaloosh2639 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im still trying to find a torch tip that I can actually use on mapgas ,a manual torch tip so to avoid these "button start"torch nozzles ,anyone know?ive bought some but they always give out ,because they can only supposed be used for the blue propane torches only,trying to find a manual flint start nozzle for MAP

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      turbo torch

  • @susangott1346
    @susangott1346 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t know if this means anything. I just recently bought a new one. That small hole is plugged in mine with a small rubber plug.

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep thank my videos for that

  • @feger481
    @feger481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should have contacted BernzOmatic and sent them the video at the same time. I have no doubt they would have sent you a complete replacement, and probably a whole lot of other stuff.

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually i called them then was prompted to post when they told me no more warranties

  • @jamsax6915
    @jamsax6915 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where do you think this is made? I’ll give you one guess.

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  ปีที่แล้ว

      Its a huge country called Corona villa . They also sell organs . Not the musical ones ...

  • @ARCSTREAMS
    @ARCSTREAMS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    did you get both cinters out or only one?

  • @lenueltyson8307
    @lenueltyson8307 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My torch is not a benzomatic I think it's a Brazzer just different build it catches flame at the tip of the torch where my air vents are and it is not cool if you know anything please help

  • @christopherguy1217
    @christopherguy1217 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The brass mesh can get clogged and the pressure has to find a way out.

  • @lilodog8107
    @lilodog8107 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you missed my point. Get rid of broken tools when they get dangerous. By the way, a TS8000 caught fire on me while I was soldering pipe in a house under construction.

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah not a good place for a regulator vent , it should be vented to the flame tube then it would just get burned

  • @ARCSTREAMS
    @ARCSTREAMS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    its cast aluminium body not steel,,also maybe you should not be messing with those cinters ,they might be made for keeping the flame lit when inverted,,they diffuse the lpg from liquid to gas

  • @30roundclip44
    @30roundclip44 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is one more Allen SCREW. Holds spring and igniter..drilling and sealing won't help you AT all..

  • @DrWarped
    @DrWarped 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Removing a flashback arrestor means you know nothing about gases! That is too keep you alive! As a master welder I would never screw with the safety equipment I pray you don't get blown up! Should of sent to factory they would of replaced it for free, Probably with something better and a gift to keep you quiet!

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that your final answer ?

  • @leeisawesome123
    @leeisawesome123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the rothenberger superfire 2 and it looks pretty similar. Are there any known cases with them failing?

    • @muppit666
      @muppit666 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My superfire 2 literally went today. Only just 2 years old. Rothenberger didn’t want to know. Just told me it’s now trash. No fix. 🤬👊🤘😎

    • @8dns8
      @8dns8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine got the same problem after two weeks.

    • @simonharper4199
      @simonharper4199 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      my superfire 2 leaked thru the hole today (only 14months old) Got 5 years from my last one (same fault) Rothenberger arent interested

  • @daveed1797
    @daveed1797 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The hole where the flames and gas came out, there should be an Allen head screw that holds the lower half of the innards inside the aluminum body

  • @Legozahar1
    @Legozahar1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Get a turbotorch. Worth the money.

  • @CrisDFF30917
    @CrisDFF30917 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just buy a new one, I know that repairing things is awesome but ... keeping yourself safe is way better.

  • @catalinobracho172
    @catalinobracho172 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isso é facil consertar. Tem que trocar 2 o'ring e lubrificar com graxa de silicone. Só tem que fabricar uma chave para desmontar por baixo o maçarico. Na parte de cima não precisa desmontar. É só na parte de baixo.

  • @aznseeker
    @aznseeker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Replace with warranty. And leak??

  • @ampdals
    @ampdals ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, this was almost helpful. You edited out the only two parts I needed to see. Not really a complaint, though, since I was just hoping to see to flame lock removal, which isn't really relevant to the topic of the video. Also, I did get enough of a look at it once removed to be sure I know how to get it out without damage.

  • @simonlinser8286
    @simonlinser8286 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not throw a wet towel on it and throw it b in a bucket of water or put sand on top of it, or in a bucket full of vinegar and baking soda with a wet towel over the top.
    Don't try to disconnect the tank if this happens to you.
    Also does anyone know what the deal is with those valves the little bottles have on them? Is it for refilling?

    • @30roundclip44
      @30roundclip44 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Now i dont recommend this.but if you refiil bottle and put valve on top . ,its in a vertical position. use a small nail or screw and lift up on schrader valve on bottle to vent air to get bottle full.valve can fail and release all fuel inside.which can ignite a large fireball which u will b in side of.
      All Of this is considered illegal. And
      Do not vent all air. It should be on a scale.like they do with large tanks.stop when gas starts to come out and weight is comparable to a new bought tank. only do this when u use bottle immediately to lower pressures. It can and will explode. That valve is a pressure relief valve. So don't do it i don't recommend it's illegal to do . But adapter is for sale most anywhere.i just want to explain the dangers of what can happen. 1st degree burns put u in hospital for a month or longer .then twice a week visits adding up to several thousands of dollars for u to pay.most insurance doesn't cover stupid. I know this to b reality. JIM BEAM , JACK DANIEL S, HYDROLIC FLUID, AND A SMALL FLAME.IT RUINS YOUR BUZZ
      QUICK. IUSED WATER IN A OLD HYD.BUCKET TO PUT A SMALL FIRE ON MY COTTON SOCK. WATER WENT THROUGH SOCK .FLUID STAYED IN SOCK.and burned my leg big time.

  • @maxinpains6937
    @maxinpains6937 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cha-Ching ! You got millions !!!
    Sue them ! LMAO 🤣👌

  • @catcry1857
    @catcry1857 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That bernzomatic doesn't look like mine. It has a different logo and markings. You know what i mean. Hihi

  • @HandyTim
    @HandyTim 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So is the bigger flame mean hotter output?

    • @tichij9070
      @tichij9070 ปีที่แล้ว

      Думаю,вряд ли.

  • @anotherrant6688
    @anotherrant6688 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a defective torch that is highly dangerous. There is a known vulnerability in the neck where the flame is emitting in this video. I would get rid of this thing asap if you value your life. There are known fatalities.

  • @tres155
    @tres155 ปีที่แล้ว

    note to self always wear my weldling gloves when using my ts8000

    • @BlondieSL
      @BlondieSL ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's actually a good idea! That didn't cross my mind. I'm buying one of these tomorrow, so I'll use gloves, "just in case."
      And when doing the plumbing fixes I need to do, I'll make sure to use tin sheets to protect the nearby wood.

  • @superspecialty5169
    @superspecialty5169 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, I would like to know who/what f…up? We all want to know, what not to do!

  • @inthermheat8599
    @inthermheat8599 ปีที่แล้ว

    LoL. Some people what they will do to get more views. LoL. he's never had an acetylene torch catch fire and melt the safety plug. And melt almost everything. I thought the tank was gonna explode. Keep doing those Mickey mouse repairs and and you will get a big bang

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  ปีที่แล้ว

      This was not done for views but to warn people of a hazard . Torch worked after repairs and never exploded

  • @hawkinscsa
    @hawkinscsa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a TS4000 doing the same thing!

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the O ring is damaged

  • @vodogrey1341
    @vodogrey1341 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have two of these burners with the same problem.

  • @pauldelarouch780
    @pauldelarouch780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Australian owned HOT DEVIL map gas torch is certainly worth more than the Berzo

  • @jonienglish3231
    @jonienglish3231 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    DO NOT REMOVE !!! the SINTERING !!!!!!!!!!!!
    it is a ANTI - FLASH BACK VALVE !!!!
    FOR SAFETY !!!!

  • @jinpark5324
    @jinpark5324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something is stuck the propane path so it vent from the small hole - may be carbon buildup.

  • @totallyfrozen
    @totallyfrozen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, not a fan of plastic on my torches. I have a Bernzomatic propane torch that I bought 3 decades ago. All brass. Still works as good as new.
    That one you have looks like Made in China quality.

    • @FrancisR420
      @FrancisR420 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plastic where?
      The handles cast aluminum or Steel and the rest of it is stainless steel and brass

  • @broken1965
    @broken1965 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing i can add if you drop that bernzo she's toast its a home gamers expensive tourch. For auto start been using chinafrieght for 4yrs at my own risk then the victor stuff/Turbo torch pro stuff for work.. interesting vid thanks for showing diy people people beter off staying away from the cheap stuff and by a decent all brass torch an a Stricker my2c

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree , and yes i finally figured out that was a vent hole , we could of used you a few months ago , on my store front page i have an all brass torch, its white with brass nobs , tell me what you think about this thing amzn.to/2A5LK40.

    • @NOBOX7
      @NOBOX7  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your input jon

    • @broken1965
      @broken1965 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      WORTHINGTON is same same Bernzomatic if you like a autostricker victor makes one for under $100 TurboTorch 0386-0851 STK-99 Torch Swirl, MAP-Pro/LP Gas, Self Lighting

    • @FrancisR420
      @FrancisR420 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got the same one for years and it's taken more than a beating

  • @MrCharles4488
    @MrCharles4488 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If an item was purchased from Home Depot, then it was warrantied for the life of the product... unless there is evidence of tampering or modifications

  • @tootarded4tv809
    @tootarded4tv809 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an st-33 turbo torch with Map for plumbing. Mine will gunk up and not light here and there. Not the greatest, was a 150$ tor head

  • @jamesringler987
    @jamesringler987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I did not get much use out of mine before it failed called the company but they did not want to service it or look at it for a redesign other than that I liked the torch.it was not that old though

  • @alockworkorange7296
    @alockworkorange7296 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mine went out once just the ignighter glad it didnt so this but i just took it to home depot and told them i bought it and it died they have lifetime warrenty they replaced it np they dont care they have agreement with all manufactures to be refunded its the same as going thru berbzomatic just faster