The Best $99 Low Profile GPU You Can Buy Right Now! Hands On Testing
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In this video we take a look at an awesome $99 Low Profile Graphics card perfect for Small Form Factor 1080P gaming PC Builds! This is the ASRock Intel ARC A380 Low profile GPU with 6GB Of Ram. We do an unboxing, run some benchmarks and see how well this LP card performs with AAA 1080P Gaming
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The big issue with these ARC cards is that they require a CPU/Mainboard combination that supports ReBAR/SAM, so these cards perform terribly on older CPUs (anything before Ryzen 3000 or Intel 10th gen). So they are not a good pick to slot into old/cheap workstation PCs you grab off of ebay. ETA tested on a Ryzen 7000 so this is not at all comparable to how this would run for example on an old intel 4000 series CPU. Please beware when looking for a low profile GPU for these older PCs!
GTX 1650 or RTX a2000 are the best for old LF system. RX 6400, RTX 4060 LP and a380 LP can't get the maximum performance by either cut down pcie lane or needing new features in the PC.
PS. Some old small form factor PCs don't have x8 pin for rtx 4060.
yeah its because every thing he reviews is 'amazing' etc but never gets down to the nuts and bolts of things, and seems like hes pushing a lot of things to sell for Aliexpress vendors (that lil SBC the other week went fast...). starting to get tired of these videos, they seem more like theyre ads skirting the paid promotion rules on here by now and again 'reviewing' some things. i noticed a lot less tutorials from him lately as well :p
A ryzen 5500 costs 100 bucks or less.
@@VuBeClan and then board, and ram etc. and im in canada, so increase that cost a bit more. plus i'd rather not use a card that emulates an API, which is why ive had no interest in a card that 'gets better' with driver updates vs ones that 'just work'.
Ah... Kinda, rebar technically existed in the x86-64 spec from around 2010, and at the very least I know some Intel 7000 and 8000 motherboards got updated to support it, and that it can be hacked in yourself all the way back to Sandy bridge
Yay you finally got this one! Thanks for the amazing review!
I'd love to see a video of side by side performance between the a380, 1650, and 6400. All low profile models.
Why ? ARC is just CRAP !
Gigabyte GV-N4060 low-profile, next to Nvidia A2000
6400 is a dog compared to 1650
@@snoflahke6575 aren't they mostly on par?
He never compares. Everything is "best".
Having products available at $99 price point is very intriguing and useful. Good job 👍
Have the drivers matured for emulation? Awesome video, really appreciate you testing such a budget GPU 😊
I love that there's a "good enough" efficient little GPU that's so affordable
Curious to see how this card performs with Emulation as I will be more intrigue to use it on a multicade running high end Arcade games.
Great video! Could you show emulation performance of this? I'd be highly interested in using this in a compact living room build for some casual gaming.
You have to admit, the arc center looks baller! If I could I would take that over any other control software
I am very much interested in this case since a couple o months now and I really appreciate you having it featured in 3 videos so far. With the vented panels that allows vertically finned low profile gpu's to breathe, it is truly the definite case for these cards. I already have a 12400T cpu which merely has a 35w TDP and pairing it with this graphics card would result in a pc with crazy low consumption. It would not make use of the 70mm cooler clearance as this chip runs ice cold on an AXP90-X36 too right now, but that's fine. Could just grab a nice 300w flexguru modular psu with a cpu 8pin to 8pin + 6+2pin splitter and I'm set.
The temps however are scaring me. Then again, it's the third time you use this case without feet to elevate it from the ground, making it suffocate. If you don't want to elevate it from the surface with some case feet, then just lay it down to it's back horizontally so that we can have actually relevant numbers please:)
The ReBAR and PCIe 4.0 necessities make Intel GPUs a not very good option for older systems. Even the RTX4090 is hardly affected by those shortcomings.
i got an ReBAR onm an X99 - thats PCIE 3.0
and my A770 works flawlesslyy..
ReBAR as TECH is part of PCIE since PCIE 3.0
blame motherboard manufacturers that they disabled or hidden that option
on most of the "older" motherboards that has pcie 3.0 - you can bring back option to enable ReBAR with simple bios mods
@@Karti200 question though, isn't there games that don't support ReBar and if ReBar is turned on in the system, wouldn't that game perform poorly due to that? If I remember correctly thats the reason why intel arc is not recommended on older systems
@@jd_railfan There are no issues with older titles - and no, Intel did not recommended older systems because of ReBar "lacking" but as mentioned before - ReBAR as itself, is an technology that EACH pcie 3.0 based system has - but motherboard manufacturers did not enabled it
@@Karti200please explain what is ReBAR and SAM in GPU terms
in simplest way@@FloatSamplesGT710 - gives CPU an option to fully harness GPU memory
ReBAR is the technology name overall - SAM is just AMD way of calling it
when someone says "AMD SAM" he just fancy names ReBAR
I use this card as secondary graphics card for rendering in my system. And it works fine. Thanks for the video.
Do you use it for rendering on Enscape? I'm think in buy one, but need to make sure it will work?
@@EduardoRodrigues-ef3tli use it to render my YT-streams on my channel, and for rendering in AV1 in Video Deluxe 2024 for my Video content.
I love this videos!!! Saludos desde México
Kudos to those who make SFF GPU cards. Don’t for get the little guys 👍👍
I'm curious as to how well this can decode. Is decode performance the same as the A770?
Most clean self-built low liter PC ever seen. Usually, they look like they'll catch on fire. 👍
Would love to see you test the RTX 4000 ada power mod, intrested just for purpose of what could have been if nvidia did a low profile 4070, I know the price is that of a 4090, but curious to see an super tiny pc that is way smaller then any console and packs a punch at 4k.
The A380 should have been a good buy for older systems, but thanks to needing Re-Bar, not so much. I really think it was a bad idea for Intel to develop Arc around Re-Bar. It would have opened them up to A LOT more buyers. The A380 is about on par with a 1650, which are selling for around $150 on the used market. At $100 this would be a no brainer for those people. It is worth noting that Re-Bar can be enabled on older systems, but it requires flashing a modified BIOS to your system... so it's not for the faint of heart, but it is an option.
For people with older systems, the 1650 or the 4060 (if you have enough power) are the best options right now. The A2000 would be as well if it weren't currently selling for over $300 on the used market, and at that point, just buy the 4060. If they came back down to around $250, I'd call it a viable option again. The "new" 3050 6GB might be an interesting option when it comes out if they sell it at the right price.
@@RichmondRaymont Unless you can enable Re-Bar on your system, it's not getting the performance it could be. You are absolutely leaving performance on the table. There are more than enough videos showing the performance decrease with Re-Bar disabled on YT.
I wonder how much more support (driver side) does the 16 series has left considering Nvidia has finished production on those cards
@@itsprod.472Not any time soon. They still support the 900 series and they'll kill of 10 series before the 16 series, so 16 series has quite a bit more life left in it. Besides, there are people out there still gaming on 700 series cards even though driver supported ended quite a while ago.
@@dualpapayasYep, even with it's issues, it would perform better than the A380 in a Gen3 system.
@@RichmondRaymont If you're fine with a slower card than the 1650 in your system in every way, and it's more than a little, then more power to you. The only thing the A380 has over the 1650 is AV1 support.
Hello love all your vids. Why don't you make a sort of bench video with this arc lp a380 vs rx 6400 lp and rtx 4060 lp all card in low profile mode. Please with a price/performance test (emulation first) and the rest...
VERY nice to See RX6400, A380, A2000 LP, A4000 LP, and the RTX 4060 LP ALL new all available for the most part. We may have more "new" options than before. It's been a while since we have had so many LP cards.
Technically if your needs are a bit lower, there are still 1650s, 1030s, 750ti, RX550s & 560s, and a few enterprise quadros and "Radeon pro" type cards floating around too.
Yet the 1650 lp is still the best bang for buck 🤑
3050 LP also launched (soft launch?). As for how much cheaper than the 4060LP, yet to see...
Would it be able to see some emulation performance for this little card? ideally batocera, looking for a dedicated low profile card for up to switch emulation. My current GPU is my old Radeon HD 7950 and the thing chugs along nicely but I would prefer low profile low tdp card
I would have loved seeing emulation done in your video. I have a a370m in my laptop it always wants to update to the older version if the driver but other than that its a decent 1080p card
Do you plan to test out the Intel Arc a310 ITX or Low Profile model? It feels like an enthusiast card, but I don't see any videos for it anywhere since it's a low end Intel offering.
Hi there. I love your videos, you present the information in a manner which is easy to understand to a noob myself (in terms of PC building). One question: How would Microsoft Flight Simulator on its highest settings compare to the games you test on? I'd love to be able to have the best settings on MSFS in 1080p? My monitors don't go higher than that anyway. I want to buy or build a PC but I don't want to go overkill. As an extra-credit question, how would you guess that the games you test compare to the upcoming MSFS 2024? I realize I'm asking you to dust off the crystal ball here...
I wonder if there are any smaller eGPU enclosures that would work with this for a do it yourself option for the new handhelds like the Ally and Go. Might need to get a different GPU though, as you probably need to power the GPU through an external connector in such a use case.
This is perfect thanks for sharing
A Plex encoding test would be awesome! Specially to new formats like h265.
I also would love to put a SFF PC into my arcade1up machine. So some Wii u and ps3 emulation results would have been nice
@@kevinsedwards because some people like having 4k movies and h265 saves more space.
The A380 can do AV1 encoding. so you can save even more space over H265
You can run a low profile amd rx 550x @@ChaFairchildabout $40 will run those as long as your cpu is decent for the PS3.
@@kevinsedwards you keep missing the point lol. Forget it.
I already have GTX 1050 ti low profile on an i7 2600 mini form factor Dell Optiplex, and it runs most of my preferred games decently, but was still looking for a better option, as the video card is long in the tooth. I was wondering if you can put is in a similar desktop to see if it is a viable option of an upgrade, since I think most people who will be looking at this video card may have something similar.
Does the ASRock Intel ARC A380 Challenger ITX 6GB OC and the a380 low profile perform the same? Cooling? FPS?
How would this work in a i7 4th gen cpu in linux batocera? Better than a gtx1050ti LP?
can you bulid like a portable egpu with this for use it with the steam and the rog ally, or the gpd g1 still a better option?
Hey, maybe you or somebody here can tell me. Will a new say, PCI 4.0 or whatever graphics card work on an old, old PCI 2.0 motherboard with decent performance? In particular, I'm looking at encoding/decoding performance rather than gaming. I have an old Intel Q6600 system that I've turned into a server, but the video card is only a GTX 750 and this almost worthless at hardware encoding/decoding for Plex. If I can replace it with a new(er) one, it'd be a huge help. I assume that the link bandwidth won't matter much?
You should do the A310 too
Yep, over $220 in Australia ... Really frustrating doing budget build here!
Over 150 in Germany on sale 😕
I've built a SFF gaming PC with this A380 last week. I've even used it with Proxmox 8.1 as pass through to Windows 10. It's an excellent card and I've not found a game it does not play.
Thank you I have a old dell SFF im going to try to put this into.
I tried this and the color is too big, it fits if you pull the cooler off it fits
For my Fujitsu Esprimo with i7 6700 the best affordable and matching gpu is rtx a2000. I am very happy with this combo
Hello i dont know much in gpu
I have optiplex 540 sff but the problem is I don't know if rx 580 is working on in
What gpu is same speed with rx 580 that fit with sff?
Mr. Eta prime love your videos. They also have a RTX A4000 SFF that's a new low profile gpu that can run off the pcie slot at under 75 watts. But it costs 1500 and right now it's the most powerful gpu you can run without even needing a bigger power supply. It replaced the rtx a2000 series gpu's from what I'm seeing is somewhere between 2 to 2.5 times more powerful than its predecessor and would make for an interesting video.
Can you please also cover media htpc capabilities of lower end graphics that can be used for home entertainment, youtube 4k hdr streaming on a 4k display, av1 decoding performance etc?
How's the noise while playing? And does the fan's stop spinning when there is no load?
got me a 4060 for my itx build for 300 bucks... so far im happy with it... cyberpunk runs on ultra 1080 +RT with 90fps cant complain at all... had a hard time deciding between a ps5 and the 4060 .. im glad i got the 4060 def outperforms the ps5
How does it fair on the temperature department? I bet it's running quite hot considering the 8-pin power connector and a recommended 450W power requirment.
@@qx1381 yes temps are pretty hot.. tahts the only negative point... but i think its because i run a itx skyreach mini case.. in a normal case i think they would be better...
@@teabagNBGRTX series 4000s are pretty hot in general, I doubt it's your case
Maybe it's not exactly apples to apples but you forgot to mention the RtX A2000. It is more expensive, but it's basically a "Quadro" version of the RTX 3060, in both 6GB and 12GB variants. That thing performs VERY well! I have the 12GB model in my NAS/Plex server for 4K transcoding. It's definitely overkill, but these ARC GPUs weren't available when I built it.
It's more like a 3050, possibly 3050 ti. The lp 4060 is significantly better tho if one has the room
@@zerocal76 Mine was within 2% of the 3060 on the benchmarks I ran (I have both cards). My guess would be it depends if you use the studio driver for the A2000 and the game ready drivers for the 3060? Or I got incredibly lucky and/or unlucky with either or both of the cards 🤷♂️ I agree about the 4060 though, obviously that will be faster than the others. But part of ETA's point was something low profile that doesn't need the 8-pin power, and that's the part I was focusing on.
@@zerocal76 3060 is better.
That has gotta be the most adorable GPU I have seen in years!
CPU utilization seems abnormally high during that spiderman run around 7:46 at 80-90%. That's about double what cyberpunk was using a similar framerates, for instance, and pretty extreme for a 7700x
Might be a driver or game problem
what about emulation....... im curious as i am interested to know how this card would perform with an older cpu such as the i7 4790s. im building an emulation box inside of an old og xbox case. can you test this gpu with 16 gigs of ram
Yeah, I loved this.>Thanks 👍
I really wanted to find a a380 low profile but here in Australia it's impossible. Instead I went and splurged and got the 4060 low profile.
How does this compare to the old standby, the Nvidia RTX A2000?
I wonder if you could get this GPU to work with the PI5 5 maybe that plus an SSD makes a PI5 a really reasonable desktop replacement, with a total cost of $250 or less.
i think this is a great idea for repurposing the ryzen 3k and up chips that are used so they can be regular purpose or htcp's
Wouldn't mind a mid-range laptop with an i5, and this GPU.
would this card work in those OptiPlex 3050, 7050??
If you could get a low profile RX6400 used at around that price, would that be a better option?
nice review? it runs Street fighter 6? i been thinnking on make a system just to run games on my tv, i want to to run SF6, thanks
Cual dirías que sería la siguiente tarjeta gráfica mejor de perfil bajo con conexión de alimentación adicional?
Can you put the arc a380 lip in a 2014 9020 sff with a 255psu
Can HP EliteDesk 800 G3 SFF (especially the PSU) handle it?
i been watching your vids for a while now and always like what you show, however i thought of something not many or anyone is talking about. PC gaming in a van or tiny home. only a few vids i found but it would make for a good content pool, more and more people are going into van live with the cost of everything going way up it be nice to see what kind of ultra power efficient gaming rig you can make for tiny living and solar power.
does this GPU fit in a Dell Optiplex 3060 sff?
omg .. you sounded like a Drill Instructor sir .. nice ..
Nice! Pls test this card in a batocera system!
Could a 180w PSU be enough for Arc 380?
Emulations test?
I wonder how good the next gen will be
As others have noted. This basically needing ReBAR kills any interest I would have had in it. I'm sure there are good technical reasons at play, but ultimately it's still something I just have no interest in as it won't work on anything i could even theoretically get my hands on.
Pourquoi vous n'avez pas essayé un émulateur pour PS3 ou pour Nintendo Switch ?!
That monitoring software looks so much better and accurate than afterburner what are you using
on the arc cards with furmark do not use 8xMSAA you will not see the maximum power draw it seems broken.
Any LoPro GPUs between this ARC A380 and RTX 4060 ?
I want to build my GF a PC. But she only plays leisure games. She plays games that are not graphically demanding.
You think you can get it to work on a Zima Balde ?
Can you do GMKtec K1
And maybe an upgrade to external GPU
i just got it for replacing my broken gt 1030. this card need to enabled resize bar and luckily my asrock h310 has option to enabled resize bar. my htpc spec : i3 9100 + asrock h310m hdv
Cheaper than a RX 6400, but a shame that its not also single slot.
I just wanna know if it will work for some light video and photo editing but no one ever talks about anything but Cyberpunk.
For light video and photediting your cpu and ram will be priority but yea this would handle light editing perfectly fine. The moment you start rendering graphics like in blender or aftereffects you might want a beefier gpu
they finally made it into a low profile, knew it would happen. but, rebar support being needed...nah.
would the case would fir bd770i minisforum?
Would this run helldivers 2?
How’s it compete against the RX 6400?
I'd love to buy one of these for an old Small Form Factor PC, but I want to know how much performance you lose without Resizable BAR...
EDIT: I just look up on Amazon and here (Spain) that same card costs 168 €.
Oh well.
its really too bad that these require new cpu/motherboard - they'd almost be an instant buy if they were supported in older business desktops, optiplexes etc.
really?
I play starfield on integrated vega 7 on my 5600g. I get an average 35fps 900p on a mix of high/medium settings while running a reshade mod
This is gonna be amazing for Plex server builds forget gaming, give us those sweet sweet transcodes
Can this fit in my dell optiplex 3020 ?
I know i am almost month late - but as an user of same case
i recommend you to strip GPUs off their small fans, and put 2x 80mm slim fans on the bottom of case - much better performance :)
would the Tesla P4 be a better performer?
For what it is, it seems rather good.
The XESS is lookingreally goot at performance mode. Look at Cyberpunk. it looks like native 1080.
Saw it onsale for $160 Cdn, but sold out everywhere
Pretty badass! 🙂
Would this GPU be good for a mini pc to run Geforce Now Ultimate tier?
@@luciusdebeers6176 What does this have to do with a monitor? Are you saying this GPU cannot stream 4K?
How is it vs a 1650 Oc Low pro card
Hey ETA. I found a old Dell Optiplex 745 desktop and I want to turn it in a gaming pc could you tell what gpu and cpu do I need to buy in order for it to be a gaming pc please
The best specs I could use
LGA 775 is unfortunately very old. A Core 2 Quad isn't going to be able to handle many games comfortably after around 2016.
Would the highest end i3 pair well with this? What CPU would you recommend?
Im think about this graphics card, 16gb of ram, and whatever CPU you recommend.
can this card, or the a310, fit single slot if you remove the fan and the shroud (effectively making it a passively cooled gpu)
you don't have to remove anything with the 310.its a lot slimmer.
@@AugustusMcMillanwell, i checked, and the asrock low profile version of the a310 is dual slot unfortunatelty.
@@mparagames okay. i could have sworn it was a single slot.
@@AugustusMcMillanthe sparkle a310 is.
Damn... how many times did ETA Prime got me in buying stuff I don't think I'll need...
you should have included video editing test from resolve and p pro.
Is a 770 16gb a decent 1440 card or no?
Please make a 2023 Best Mini PC all budgets
Would this card be viable for PS3 emulation either through Windows or Batocera? If so I'm thinking about getting one and selling my RTX A2000 for some quick cash.
4060 LP card is suppose to replace this for gaming. A2000 is more suitable for workstation video encoding.
@@qx1381 The A2000 is the equivalent of the RTX 3050 and performs as such when using Game Ready drivers. Also no where did I enquire about the 4060 LP. Furthermore this response answered nothing about my actual question which was if the ARC A380 handles PS3 emulation well. This is more directed at ETA Prime himself. At least you tried.