The New Honda Civic Type R FK8... Is It As Good As Everyone Says? (JDM Legends Tour Pt. 9)
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- Plenty of people will cite a Type-R as their favourite. The Integra is a JDM legend and the Civic has been the weapon of choice for car fans for two decades. But lately Honda have faltered. The FN2 was not well received, then five years went by without a Type-R in the range at all.
The FK2 was then released, the first TypeR product to be turbocharged, but it was not well loved. Now Honda are hoping for third time lucky with the FK8. The press seem to love it, but is that love deserved?
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Now after a full year with my '18 FK8, I plan on keeping it forever. There is really nothing out there like it. And as a senior citizen- the looks work just fine for me. Highly recommended. Just like JayEm's videos, which never disappoint.
Just bought a Type R and now I find myself looking for past Type R videos and I totally agree with what you said! Well done! This is a special car and I feel so fortunate I was able to get one. We need to continue to support companies like Honda who put their passion into making proper driver's cars with manuals or we face the demise of the manual and literally pave the way for self driving cars.
As an EP3 owner picked up a few weeks ago , I LOVE the new model. In fact, I really liked the previous generation too. It looked great and still does.
Like you I think Honda should be heavily applauded. I have never owned one before and it immediately feels like a pure driver focused car. It is now very easy to understand the almost universal praise they receive.
Come on Honda, give him the NSX for god's sake! Great review matey, as usual. Dunno why you haven't got like 250k subs yet.
Thanks Tom! Appreciate it
Soon he will
And he did! Congrats!
He will have by mid 2022...😁
He’s there about a now.
Pretty unbeatable in it's class. You have to applaud Honda for making a specific product, not trying to appeal to everyone
Yep, they've done a brilliant job and I'm glad they didn't make a German VW clone
Its only unbeatable around a track in a straight line the STI, Focus RS, Golf R, Evo, and older cars like the Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4, Nissan 300ZX TT, and Supra TT murder it.
golf r and focus rs definitely not. From 0-100km/h sure, but not on a rolling start. Also the Type R has a topspeed of 272km/h. There is a video around where you can see the acceleration between the cars and you can see how fast the type r catches on and surpasses the cars.
With reference to my 'unbeatable' statement - I'm not simply talking straight line speed, from what I gather that's not entirely what this car is about. Besides, it's pointless to compare a FWD hot hatch to the AWD stuff, it's a given that they're going to get off the line far better but other than 'on-paper' bragging rights, does it really matter?
S incorrect. See below:
www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2017-ford-focus-rs-vs-2017-honda-civic-type-r-comparison-test-final-scoring-performance-data-and-complete-specs-page-4
Also, here's a stock type r at the strip, and a video of one vs a type r, where it only wins from a high speed roll:
m.th-cam.com/video/y6OU4NVqo9Q/w-d-xo.html#
th-cam.com/video/bauD_40-OTg/w-d-xo.html
There's a ton of videos of the FK8 losing in a straight line, way more than of it winning.
One of positive things I took away from my FK2 ownership experience was the amazing front end. This FK8 has that and more. Your dead right about the Golf R, had mine for a year and yes its relentlessly fast and capable but it does lack a bit of personality.
After a test drive in the FK8 I was hooked.
It feels as if Honda are picking up the baton that Mitsubishi dropped, albeit with FWD and I am glad that they are willing to offer something other than dull SUV's and boring hybrids.
With a petrol/diesel car ban looming, car manufacturers seem to be pulling out all the stops to give us awesome internal combustion powered cars while they still can.
They will go back on that. Reality will set in. They will realise they can't make enough batteries and they don't have enough charging stations and power plants to supply all that energy.
@@SoulTouchMusic93 I really REALLY REALLY hope you're right mate, I don't want to carry on living in a world without internal combustion engines :(
@@jonathan___4684 it will be fine. I've done the math some time ago and my car's ac on my daily commute uses more energy than a household. Imagine how much the whole car uses. If everybody switches to electric you'll need wires to bring all that electricity to them.
The Vibe I hope so.. cos global warming isn’t man made.. it’s been happening for millions of years
You got a thumb's up from me! I'm actually talking with the dealer right now to pick up a blue one as my 4 door dad mobile to add to my garage. I've driven them and they are great with tons of room. Unless I want to spend way more for a German saloon or go full minivan, the Type R is the way for us dads who still want to have fun!
I 100% agree as a fellow dad who enjoys driving.
The channel has really pushed on.
Let's hope manufacturers support your efforts and comprehensive reviews.
I really think you are up there with the best.
Cheers for the hard work.
Thankyou Chris. As you can tell some manufacturers are helping out but it's a case of convincing them that their faith is well placed. I appreciate your kind words
I would say its really pushed on and a nice place to be
I think this is the best review I've seen of the FK8, not a car for me I much prefer the late '90s stuff but non the less great review.
Thankyou!
Loving the profile pic, oak
Great vid, great presenting!!
As an owner, having owned a vast range of cars, this is the best car hands down I ever had.
It leaves me with this undescribable satisfaction everytime I go somewhere.
Yes, the screen is small and you know what, I often find myself turning it off because of how well this car brings you back to the era in which a driver was required and that infotainment was secondary.
I cannot praise it enough and the styling as grown so much on me that I would probably only change the front blocked vents as you said to functional ones if possible.
This is a masterpiece and probably the last of a drying breed of actual driver's cars.
Kudos for such a great review and hopefully the internets get to realize that this is one of those books you cannot judge by its cover ... moreover, you get to love the cover over time.
This car is a the perfect match of a lost era where slight tech of today makes it even better instead of dumbing it down.
Well said!
Just discovered the channel, refreshing presenter with a very in depth and fluid style, I am subsribing now.
Thanks Saul
I just did too
Found you on Pistonheads and watched all of your videos over the past couple of months. Really refreshing, informative reviews, without the usual TH-cam bollocks. Keep up the good work! Cheers.
Its nice to see a reviewer actually understand what the three exhaust tips are there for. Rather than just going, "Its just for that wacky style" Great review!
Thankyou, appreciate the comments. Glad you liked it.
Devon Till - kinda like “Doug DeMoron” and his stupid Doug-Score
Very good review and so refreshing to find a reviewer who appreciates the FK8 for the cornering performance etc rather than looking to drag race the bollocks off it and wonder why it gets beaten by 4wd rivals (I'm looking at you CarWow...)
Good review.
All I want now is Honda to put this engine in a CRX. 4m long, 1,3m height, 2 seats and a reasonable boot. Of course aggressive styling and not too expensive.
That would be fun
Another good and rounded review.
I am a German who do not just like it, I looooooove it!
By the way your cockpit is at the wrong side...
Germany here, too. :-) I totally agree.
It's not a plane for a start
You realize he's in UK, right?
@@ArnoldsKtm wooshh
Not only is it a UK car, it's Japanese who drive on the correct side of the road like we do.
Happy new year and best wishes for your channel in 2020. Great review as always, facts and straight forward how it should be. Keep up the good work and in no time the car manufactures will be queuing up to give you a car review.
This is a really superb review. You've gone into great depth and provided a lot of insight. I've seen a number of reviews of this car, but this one is the most comprehensive. It's a long review but no time is wasted... your style really carries you along. Really, well done. Subscribed and liked!
Thanks Steve
I have to add: terrific review! Of all the Type R auto-journalist reviews out there, this is my favorite by far. I’m more excited than my kids on Christmas Eve waiting for my wife’s to Arrive!
Well done! This car is already a legend and a modern-day classic. I don't think e will say anything as bold coming out of Honda again.
I really love how you do your videos! I’ve just discovered you a few weeks ago and I’ve noticed you’re really fair with cars! Even bad cars such as the Peugeot 307 you reviewed a few weeks ago, you still pointed out good things about the car that others wish to overlook. Long story short, love your videos! Have liked and shared with a few friends. Looking forward to your amazing future content.
Thankyou very much Jake, that sort of thing really does make a difference.
From those of us who followed and are avid fans of the CRX; YES! Bring back the CRX Si, DO THIS, MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!
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That is one hell of a cold you had 😆
Fantastic review. Great knowledge on the car and history of the type r. Considering no script and your own camera work, this is probably the most comprehensive review on the car.
Thank you
one of the best reviews. excellent flow. good info.
Great video! I picked up mine yesterday, white GT exactly the same love it! Agree on the buttons on the steering it is the only thing I'm not pleased with given the quality of everything else. Keep up the good work!
Thanks!
Great in-depth review - knowledgable and very nice style, it’s like your smart car guy friend tells you all you need to know. Hope you get as much views, likes and subs as possible, let’s get that NSX on this channel! :D
Thanks!
best, honest and worthwhile review of this car I've found, Grats mate.
Good review, well done!!!
Great review, thanks for sharing. Subscribed!
Great review.
Thank you for your efforts.
Surprisingly good video, keep up the work and enthusiasm in your reviews.
Thankyou!
Great review as usual, you are one of the best on here, keep up the excellent work.
Thankyou Karl
Really down to earth presenting, cheers for a great review
Thanks for watching!
There's some cracking car reviewers on youtube at the moment, and this guy definitely fits the bill. This was heartfelt, honest and fun. From an editing perspective you tend to leave your shots quite long before cutting to the next, but this isn't the BBC so who cares. Top stuff!
This was a fairly long video, others are cut differently. Glad you enjoyed it though!
I hadn't seen your channel before watching this, but this was a great review! Nice job, and that's one hell of a shirt.
Thankyou. For more great shirts please check my other reviews.
Great review! Keep up the great work!
Thanks ken
I absolutely love the geographical area you're filming and living in. It's exactly what I would want if I had a choice. I love it.
Excellent review. Subscribed.
What an awesome review.... thank you for the nice long detailed video I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Thanks!
Great video, love the way you present.... Top job !!
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Great review as always, keep up the good work. :)
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Fantastic review! You've just gained another subscriber! Keep up the great work!
Thanks very much, I really appreciate it
I love your work bud, great job! Keep it up!!
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You are patient, thorough, knowledgable. Drive round on B roads, on an overcast day. When it comes to information for someone considering purchase of a car this is what people need to know. You can see this in the quality of comments you attract. The manufacturers should find it in their interest to support you. Keep it up and yes, go and visit your tailor.
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Very much like your thorough yet humour-filled reviews.
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Half an hour went by in a blink of an eye.
Sunday Morning in Northwest Arkansas, caught up my usual channels, You Tube "recommended" throws up this gem of a video. Very impressed - the content, delivery, camera work, etc. demands way more than 19,000 subscribers. Am sure this has already been said, but there is an early Clarkson feel to the delivery (with a James May shirt!). Look forward to seeing more content, hit the like and subscribe button.
Thanks very much!
15:00 - James May wants his shirt back....
Hes not having it
Liked and Subscribed! Thank you for your work. I'm a huge fan of Honda. you are an easy presenter, accessible and understandable
Spot on! Great review.
Very good review jay as always pal good luck with that nsx 😂 keep the content rolling👍👍👍👍
Thanks Terry!
2 1/2 years later...still loving and keeping that '18 FK8. Not feeling the FL5.
Have really enjoyed watching this channel grow. Jay Emm has added more style, more performance and more features to his videos. Oh yeah, the cars are great too.
One year into ownership and our family still loves the car.
I usually chop and change my cars and bikes at least once a year, always chasing the next thing but there's nothing out there I would change the fk8 for - not even an fl5.
Very good review although just like you, I thought it was the best value for the money but there's one you should try out before you come to that conclusion and it's the Hyundai i30N in performance spec with the extra power. It's not as powerful as the Civic type R but a very exciting car to drive, full of character. I'm a Honda fan and currently own an S2000 and an Integra type R and was looking at getting the FK8 but I'm sold on the Hyundai. I test drove the FK8 for a second time and the Hyundai for the first time and I couldn't stop grinning in the Hyundai. Hope you can get one to review and you'll be pleasantly surprised, I guarantee!
Getting mine tomorrow, so excited
I quite like how the Honda Civic Type is an affordable hot hatch first, while also a great family car.
great vid bro
Brilliant review
Great video. Fair take. I own an '18 CTR. Love it.
Favourite thing: Everything, but seats, engine, grip, braking, turn in, are up there.
Nitpicks? Large turning circle. Small gas tank. Electric ebrake. Deal breakers? Nah. Keeping it? Oh yeah.
Recently replaced my long-term 370bhp Golf R with one of these (in red). It’s bloody fabulous. Better than the golf are: the steering, the chassis, the transmission (my Golf was manual), the seats, the driving position, the power delivery, the brakes, the sound, the handling, the ride (especially in sport and +R) and overall driver involvement/fun factor. Best daily I’ve ever owned and genuinely special and characterful. Do I have anything original to offer? I think it sounds terrific - no exhaust noise but fantastic engine note. Also, +R is perfectly useable on most roads and makes the whole car ‘tingle’ with feedback. Feeling great about my decision.
@ JayEmm Great review wish you the best,your love of cars and knowledge of cars is interesting and mature and you don't hurt our ears with tacky production!
One new sub from me!
Love the sound of your Lotus but this Honda needs a better Exhaust sound with valve control to match it's sporty looks?
Exhaust valves, at least user controlled ones, are banned now
JayEmm on Cars whaaat??😳
Great video and information as a family member is planning on buying one will make sure they put it in comfort mode on the test drive 😂👍
Love these cars! My wife has a 2018 Si which we are about to replace with a new Type R. She just ordered the car today. I know I can’t wait! As good as that Si was; I’m seriously looking forward to her getting the Type R.
How are you finding your type R is it good fun?..
Thumbs up bro - keep up the good work
great review, fingers crossed this will be my 28th birthday present to myself.
Good review man, i struggle with the looks of that though
Every day it seems you pick up another thousand or two in subscriptions with the view counts advancing in lock step. Nice!
Very detailed review James, congrats. If you haven't already seen, I've responded to your email. In short, should be ready in May 😉
As mentioned earlier, I just discovered your videos a week ago and really enjoy your videos. Lots of really good information and concise non-bias views. Keep up the good work sir..... looking forward to your NSX video.
Thanks!
Superb review, wouldn't mind giving one of these a spin myself , not sure I could live with the in your face boy racer looks thou.😀
A darker colour makes it more subtle
I'm at the very start of saving up for my FK8. I'll probably have mine in a year or so.
It's gonna be a long 12 months!
Nice dialogue, felt very professional. Love the car
Great video
Brilliant and detailled Review! The Type R is the choice for people who are still alive.
Great vid ! The Renaultsport Meganes give you the same confidence regarding handling etc. Hopefully you’re have one to review one day.
Watch this space Carl
another good video, thanks
Informative well presented review of a car i'm very interested in owning in the near future. The Golf R is another candidate for me but the Type R just seems a much more exciting proposition at present even with the Mad looks. Too old to be seen in a FK8 at 52yrs of age???
Great video JayEmm, just looking through your library. Keep the good work up.
Go for the Honda,The golf is quick but boring,ive had one.
+R on the road is actually really nice. The heavier steering and additional stiffness in the suspension work for me down here where we have nicely maintained roads. I'd agree with Harris that it would be nice to have a user mode where you can adjust all three (steering weight, suspension and throttle response) individually, but I pop mine into +R quite a bit and I'm not thrashing the nuts off it as we're talking public roads.
Good video. I like these reviews and I think I have a pretty high standard.
Great channel
Good point at the beginning around about sourcing cars, appreciate the effort you’re making. If it’s not already on your list, I’d love to see you do a video on the Lexus LC500, and even the hybrid to be honest with it’s multi-stage CVT...🤔
I've already asked about the LC of course, as I do have a contact at Toyota/Lexus, but it is a LONG waiting list
Good review as usual. The car ia surely high performance but for me the best Civic is the EG6 VTI, a great car on all aspects during its time and even now....
Great view! I just ordered one
I enjoyed this vlog (as I do most of your stuff) as you can sense when you are in something you enjoy as it really comes across. I’m currently in an M135i and looking to change. I hadn’t considered the Honda because of the ‘showy’ looks and that I’m nearing 50 however I did see it in grey (not your favourite) and it was far less OTT. I think a test drive is in order, if it reminds me of my long since past EP3 Type R and Integra Type R in terms of gear change and handling I fear an order going in. If that happens Honda UK will be informed that you made it happen👍 Thanks, Kevin.
Consider also Hyundai I30N or Renaultsport Megane
Will do, my last Renault was the original Clio 16v back in 1992, the way that thing went round corners still makes me smile however I learned a valuable lesson - never buy the first of a new model! It went through countless clutch cables (kept snapping until they changed the design) and wheel bearings. The seating position wasn't great and the gearchange was a tad 'rubbery' but I'm being picky!
Of all the modern FWD hot hatches this seems the most complete, will be interesting to see how this new generation of Honda turbo engines holds up over the years. I wanna pick one up second hand!
They will last forever. Look what people do to the old ones
OMG best shirt yet 👏🏻👏🏻
It's a good 'un isn't it?
Great review, didn't like the looks at first, think it looks great now
You know, as a GTI Mk7.5 driver I just can’t complain about a lack of power or anything. I’m quite happy with the car itself because for us Germans a Volkswagen is comparable to a jeans - it suits any kind of life situations (except for the extremes, of course). However, I’m starting to think (or better: to feel) the urge to switch to an FK8 Type R. This thing wasn’t on my radar when getting the GTI, but now I’m seriously considering going for this thing next year. Genius car.
Liked and subbed. Best of luck!
Welcome, thankyou!
Hi,. New to your channel and wanted to say what a fantastic review! I drove one in August 2017 at Brindley Honda Wolverhampton who I have a good rapport with. Was really impressed with the handing, performance and build quality. The previous gen was too too bumpy and road noise. It is a better car than the Focus RS to me as you can't go wrong with Honda reliability and there fantastic customer service.
Thankyou
What a great review! Jay, you are the best!
Honda please......just bring back the S2000 with all the latest technology! Just make it a little bit wider for wider tires....no flaring fenders.....thank you. Even today, the very clean lines of the S2000 do not look dated. So Honda........your type R has again, as always proven your engineering prowess!! You have outshown all the competition! Thank you! But the very capable abilities of the type R are drawing everyone to your brand. All the while, thee exterior, is causing our hearts to look back and lust for the S2000.........!
just jim
FK8 i knew it, you love Honda now JayEmm!Great review and great quality, only downside is the legend Lawrie wasn't allowed to drive it a bit, then you would get two points of view...
He's not driving any performance cars for a bit
Richy10 Vtec I totally agree.
Gotta say it was pretty enjoyable from the passenger seat
It's some civic. What a good looking car
I drove this car in the dry - it was amazing - better more engaging feel than my golf r (manual). In the wet though the front just moves too much for my liking if you give it a lot of throttle. If you live in a very wet weather country id prefer AWD. otherwise, this civic type r drives better than anything in its class.proper sports car, feels raw and connected to the driver.
Liked - fingers crossed for the NSX :D
Thanks!
great vid
Keep going buddy 👍
Thanks!
Good vid. Think I’ll go and take my fk8 out today.
Worth pointing out though. The bonnet scoop isn’t for cooling purposes , it’s for airflow :)
Airflow to where?
If you had the FK2 & you liked the FK8 would you buy the FK8 with a loss of 15k?
I have not tried the FK2 to appreciate the difference
I believe DC5dotty previously owned a couple of FK2's.
keep giving us your honest reviews ..
That's my aim!
I'm a huge fan on the type R Hondas. Having to work hard to keep them on the boil makes them huge fun to drive. This one sounds different... I love the front three-quarter view, but that rear wheel arch flare is pig ugly. Looks pretty neat in white..
High quality video keep it up. Also, where can I get that shirt?!
There will be a video on shirts soon!