What I didn’t mention in this video is that you need the V-logL upgrade for your G9 to be able to use waveform. I recommend watching my series about V-logL th-cam.com/video/mCldxLQE4OY/w-d-xo.html
So well explained, I saw it again and learn something new, from the last time. How are you sub 100.000 suscribers? Time and pacience, you will be an iconic “you tuber”
@@RedFrameTech I bought a GH6. There was a crazy-good deal for an open box model on B&H Photo. Very excited to get my hands on it when it arrives. I’ve been using Sony EV-10’s to make product videos and explainers, but the 4k 120p was too tempting to pass up.
Thank you so much brother for deep deep explaining of way form basics ) I’m going to use it instead of histogram on my next filming session I cognate you with your beginnings of explaining the things about Panasonic cameras, may be one day I’m going to start it on my own language too !!! You are great example how I may help to people !!! Greetings from Moscow !!!✋
Hi Bob! If you have the V-logL upgrade on your G9, it’s easiest to press and hold a custom button you want to program it to and scroll until you see WFM Waveform Monitor. You can also find it in the menu with the camera with M icon.
Hey thanks for the video. Do you have any advice on how to match V log L footage to V log footage from a full frame? When I set my G9 and S5 at the same settings, ISO, shutter speed, F stop, white balance the log footage comes out to be a bit darker on the G9. The S5 has a luminance spot meter, but does the g9 have it?
Hi. The G9 doesn’t have luminance spot meter. But what you could do is match the exposure based on the waveforms of both cameras. Matching the settings is not necessarily going to work, because the sensor sizes are different. So the same f-stop or ISO is not going the give you the same results on both cameras. Keep shutter speed and frame rate the same on both, but adjust exposure on the cameras based on the waveform. Hope it helps!
@@RedFrameTech thank you! im having a really hard time to seeing the wave forms, and matching them because the design layout is a bit different on both cameras, plus when I film with two cameras, they are left and right of each other and it changes a bit of the image based off of where the key light is. My goal is to create log footage that is close to each other straight out of the camera and get the exposure right. What I've been doing is just making sure the + - Exposure meter bar is at zero the best I can. Is that a good way to see if the images are close to each other?
@@RedFrameTech Also, if you were doing interviews in different locations with slightly different lighting conditions, what would you do to try your best to match the edited clips that go back and forth from different locations so it doesn't look too jarring to the viewer. Is it expected that different locations will just look different? thank you for the help!!!
I see what you mean. The trick is to determine where your subject is represented in the waveform and match your subject’s exposure level on both cameras. That way, even if the scene is a bit different, your subject is exposed the same on both cameras. The exposure meter is a very rough tool, because it doesn’t tell you anything about how the exposure is distributed across the image. Waveform is much more precise. About the different locations; it’s ok if it looks like a different location IMO. However, white balancing for the new location would be a good thing. Exposure is something that you should really check every time you change the scene or lighting conditions. With V log there’s still some room to adjust things in post though. So, if it’s slightly off, you can still correct it. I hope that’s a clear explanation 🙂
@@RedFrameTech I have seen some other videos on youtube and they say it's somewhere between 50-55 IRE for HLG which sounds similar to V-log. Anyways I am deciding on buying the V-log key, as I have Fuji X-T2 and that gives surprisingly good results in 8-bit F-log with light grading, and so I would definitely have more space with grading V-log compared to an already half-color-baked HLG profile.
@@RedFrameTechgot the idea from here: th-cam.com/video/8TZfKJPrThQ/w-d-xo.html It would be great to figure out how to do this for HLG view assist and V-log L view assist since I find HLG has less noise in certain situations. Thanks
Good question! It’s because the camera’s screen doesn’t necessarily display the image accurately. The screen is mainly for composing and seeing what you’re filming. It’s not meant to be used to judge exposure or colours with
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What I didn’t mention in this video is that you need the V-logL upgrade for your G9 to be able to use waveform.
I recommend watching my series about V-logL th-cam.com/video/mCldxLQE4OY/w-d-xo.html
Just upgraded last week. 80€ well spent on my G9.
Thanks for this, very clear, I understood it first pass. As a newbie moving from a DSLR this was a great introduction in how to use wave forms.
Happy to hear it was helpful!
This is by far the best explanation I have seen on this subject matter. Great job!!!
That’s great to hear! Thanks for watching! 🙏
EXCELENT EXPLANATION! THANK YOU!!
You’re most welcome!
Great!! As usual very straight forward explanation. Thanks
Thanks Andres 🙏
You are the best one! When someone wanna be proffesional you are the MUST channel.
Thank you! I’m glad to hear my videos are helpful
great video!
Best explanation for waveform I‘ve seen now 👍. Could you please do another one for false colors?
Thanks Guiseppe 🙏 A video about false colours is in the planning 🙂
Proper explanation. Thank you.
So well explained, I saw it again and learn something new, from the last time. How are you sub 100.000 suscribers?
Time and pacience, you will be an iconic “you tuber”
Thank you so much! 🙏😊
So helpful. Thanks
Incredibly helpful and concise. Can’t wait to try this out, just bought a LUMIX and was curious to learn how to take advantage of the exposure tools.
That’s great to hear! Which Lumix did you buy?
@@RedFrameTech I bought a GH6. There was a crazy-good deal for an open box model on B&H Photo. Very excited to get my hands on it when it arrives. I’ve been using Sony EV-10’s to make product videos and explainers, but the 4k 120p was too tempting to pass up.
@@GarethConner Awesome!
Very nice video sir.
Thanks 🙏
Thank you so much brother for deep deep explaining of way form basics ) I’m going to use it instead of histogram on my next filming session
I cognate you with your beginnings of explaining the things about Panasonic cameras, may be one day I’m going to start it on my own language too !!! You are great example how I may help to people !!!
Greetings from Moscow !!!✋
Thanks 🙏 and you’re welcome! Great to hear it’s helpful!
Very interesting. How do I set waveform on my G9?
Hi Bob! If you have the V-logL upgrade on your G9, it’s easiest to press and hold a custom button you want to program it to and scroll until you see WFM Waveform Monitor.
You can also find it in the menu with the camera with M icon.
Hey thanks for the video. Do you have any advice on how to match V log L footage to V log footage from a full frame?
When I set my G9 and S5 at the same settings, ISO, shutter speed, F stop, white balance the log footage comes out to be a bit darker on the G9. The S5 has a luminance spot meter, but does the g9 have it?
Hi. The G9 doesn’t have luminance spot meter.
But what you could do is match the exposure based on the waveforms of both cameras. Matching the settings is not necessarily going to work, because the sensor sizes are different. So the same f-stop or ISO is not going the give you the same results on both cameras. Keep shutter speed and frame rate the same on both, but adjust exposure on the cameras based on the waveform. Hope it helps!
@@RedFrameTech thank you! im having a really hard time to seeing the wave forms, and matching them because the design layout is a bit different on both cameras, plus when I film with two cameras, they are left and right of each other and it changes a bit of the image based off of where the key light is. My goal is to create log footage that is close to each other straight out of the camera and get the exposure right. What I've been doing is just making sure the + - Exposure meter bar is at zero the best I can. Is that a good way to see if the images are close to each other?
@@RedFrameTech Also, if you were doing interviews in different locations with slightly different lighting conditions, what would you do to try your best to match the edited clips that go back and forth from different locations so it doesn't look too jarring to the viewer. Is it expected that different locations will just look different? thank you for the help!!!
I see what you mean. The trick is to determine where your subject is represented in the waveform and match your subject’s exposure level on both cameras. That way, even if the scene is a bit different, your subject is exposed the same on both cameras. The exposure meter is a very rough tool, because it doesn’t tell you anything about how the exposure is distributed across the image. Waveform is much more precise.
About the different locations; it’s ok if it looks like a different location IMO. However, white balancing for the new location would be a good thing. Exposure is something that you should really check every time you change the scene or lighting conditions.
With V log there’s still some room to adjust things in post though. So, if it’s slightly off, you can still correct it.
I hope that’s a clear explanation 🙂
@@kyleledotnet btw, just watched your most recent video. If you ever visit the Netherlands again, it could be fun to meet up 🙂
Thank for your video! Does the darkest also not to below 10-15 ire in v-log?
Thanks! That’s correct
I need the same IRE skin tone exposure but in HLG mode, how much will it be? Very helpful video either ways.
I never use HLG, but I believe skin tones should be exposed a little higher than in V-log. Not sure though..
@@RedFrameTech I have seen some other videos on youtube and they say it's somewhere between 50-55 IRE for HLG which sounds similar to V-log. Anyways I am deciding on buying the V-log key, as I have Fuji X-T2 and that gives surprisingly good results in 8-bit F-log with light grading, and so I would definitely have more space with grading V-log compared to an already half-color-baked HLG profile.
What about how to use false color as a lut in the lumix g9 and make the false color lut to download? I'm confused on how to do it.
🙏 That’s an interesting one! I am going to look in to that
@@RedFrameTechgot the idea from here: th-cam.com/video/8TZfKJPrThQ/w-d-xo.html
It would be great to figure out how to do this for HLG view assist and V-log L view assist since I find HLG has less noise in certain situations. Thanks
@@xHOTDAMNxHBx thanks man 🙏 I’m definitely going to look into that and see if I can make something useful 🙂
Can waveform only be used in video or can you use it for photos instead of histogram
Hi Michael! Unfortunately, it is only available in video
Wow
So you completely ignore the meter?
Yes I do 🙂
Help, help, help, how to remove all settings from the lumix g9 screen
Hi. I did already answer you on your previous comment 👍
Thank you, but I don't understand why I can't simply make an exposure judgement based on what I see of the image (???) :)
Good question! It’s because the camera’s screen doesn’t necessarily display the image accurately. The screen is mainly for composing and seeing what you’re filming. It’s not meant to be used to judge exposure or colours with
@@RedFrameTech thank you, that helps me a lot!
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