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    People often compare Hashirama to Naruto and how they believe Hashirama was failure because he wasn’t able to save Madara, this continuing the cycle of hatred and the reincarnation cycle. As we know Both Hashirama and Naruto were faced with incredibly difficult circumstances that they had to overcome and bear the weight of especially when it came to dealing with their best friends, Madara Uchiha and Sasuke Uchiha. I’m here today to discuss Hashirama Senju and whether or not he failed as some believe.
    I want to give a special thanks to ​⁠‪@SagesRain‬ for inspiring me to make this video and in no way is this hate guided towards him. I haven’t said a single negative thing about him or his video in my own and only use it as a stepping stone for reference.
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    Explore the intriguing comparisons between Hashirama and Naruto, delving into the perception of Hashirama as a failure for not saving Madara and perpetuating the cycle of hatred. Discover the parallels between Hashirama and Naruto's struggles, particularly in their relationships with their closest friends, Madara and Sasuke Uchiha. Join us in examining Hashirama Senju's legacy and determining if he truly failed as some argue.
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    The comparison between Hashirama Senju and Naruto Uzumaki has been a subject of debate among avid fans of the Naruto series. Many argue that Hashirama was a failure because he couldn't save his best friend, Madara Uchiha, thus continuing the cycle of hatred and the reincarnation cycle. However, it's essential to understand the unique challenges faced by both Hashirama and Naruto and the burdens they carried.
    Both Hashirama and Naruto found themselves thrust into extraordinary circumstances where they had to shoulder immense responsibilities. Hashirama, as one of the founding members of Konohagakure, was tasked with establishing peace among the warring clans. Naruto, on the other hand, inherited the role of the Seventh Hokage and had the daunting task of uniting the shinobi world.
    When it comes to their relationships with their closest friends, the parallels between Hashirama's bond with Madara and Naruto's bond with Sasuke Uchiha become evident. Both Madara and Sasuke were driven by deep-seated hatred and sought to bring about radical change through their own means. Hashirama's inability to save Madara from succumbing to darkness is often cited as his failure, just as Naruto struggled to save Sasuke from the path of vengeance.
    However, it is important to consider the complexities of these relationships. Hashirama and Naruto faced tremendous emotional and physical obstacles while trying to bring their friends back to the right path. Their unwavering belief in the power of friendship and their willingness to sacrifice everything for the sake of their loved ones demonstrated their true strength.
    Furthermore, it is worth noting that the cycle of hatred and conflict is deeply rooted in the world of Naruto, stretching back generations. While Hashirama couldn't break this cycle, his efforts paved the way for Naruto to continue the struggle for peace. Hashirama's founding of Konohagakure and his vision for cooperation among the clans set the foundation for Naruto's mission to unite the shinobi world.
    In conclusion, the notion that Hashirama Senju failed as some believe is a matter of interpretation. While he couldn't save Madara and end the cycle of hatred during his time, his contributions and ideals played a vital role in shaping the path that Naruto would eventually walk. By examining Hashirama's legacy and understanding the intricate similarities between him and Naruto, we can appreciate the significance of his role in the Naruto universe

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  • @EdoEeerieEncounters
    @EdoEeerieEncounters  ปีที่แล้ว

    Special thanks to Sage's Rain! Here's his video that I referenced, definitely check out his content!
    th-cam.com/video/h8hmDZZ8btY/w-d-xo.html - The Philosophy of Hashirama Senju - A Contradiction (Naruto)

    • @dytgyfgyffuh243
      @dytgyfgyffuh243 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you say it was desinted to be naruto then that proves that neji was right

    • @dytgyfgyffuh243
      @dytgyfgyffuh243 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many of villains were right pain was right about the cycle of hatred madrara was right about the shnobi system being hell zabuza was right about shnobi being used by thier village and people and neji was right about the destiny naruto is the child of destiny they had a better understanding about life than naruto his too naive and idealistic

  • @VortexDesigns302
    @VortexDesigns302 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video is very good ngl

  • @saramarie3427
    @saramarie3427 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should do more Naruto vids 👍

    • @EdoEeerieEncounters
      @EdoEeerieEncounters  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More is definitely coming! Naruto is literally my favorite anime of all time and I enjoyed talking about it, I just want to find interesting things to talk about that hasn’t been talked about a million times already. If I do end up touching on something that’s been spoken on it’ll definitely have my own perspective on it. 🙂

  • @lynnusuk2092
    @lynnusuk2092 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don’t think Hashirama is a failed Naruto, if anything he succeeded in his dream of wanting a less violent world where children don’t have to die senselessly (unless you count the chunin exam's forest of death portion but hey tobirama was the one that created that). Of course it's not perfect, children still died on mission but it's safe to say he reduced the percentage exponentially because of the life expectancy doubling. Though I do find there is a large contradiction in Hashirama’s philosophy. The willingness to sacrifice everything for the village even family, clans, blood, yet it is those same people that made up the village in the first place. In essence you’re sacrificing the village to save the village from any threats even itself, against its own will if needed. We see how this philosophy is twisted by every village. Which is also why I disagree with you and sage on when the will of fire began. I think it began when the village is established, not when he killed Madara that was just codifying the last creed of the will. His vision of the “ideal” world spread like wild fire through the world, as other villages were established under the example of the leaf. But none of those that imitate his world have the same dream as him. They all strife for more, which is what Madara saw. This is also the second contradiction in the will of fire, by allowing those that crave conflict into your peaceful world, they’d use their time to plot for war. Overall, I think it’s not a bad idea but it like many human thought processes still has many imperfect parts.

    • @EdoEeerieEncounters
      @EdoEeerieEncounters  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe he succeeded as well. I do believe his purpose was to create the foundation and in the end his was able to make a place where children didn't have to experience war for a time. Eventually things changed little by little with the implementation of different institutions and other villages.
      When it comes to what you believe to be the contradiction, I kind of disagree only because there can be things within your village that would damage it as a whole that you would have to get rid of to protect the greater good. Itachi believed this, he knew the village was more than his clan even though his clan was a part of the village. I also don't agree with the will of fire beginning with the inception of the village only because the will of fire was never displayed until Hashirama was forced to kill Madara (something he didn't want to do but did for the greater good of the village). There could've been other instances but as far as we know they weren't shown to us before that point.
      When it comes to your last point I would say that what Madara saw was conflict within the peace, which should be expected. They're all humans with differing beliefs and that goes for peace too. What peace is to you may be different for someone else. It's what breeds conflict in the first place. Madara wanted to put an end to that via Infinite Tsukuyomi so no humans would have to fight amongst each other, at least in reality. Who knows what most people even dreamt about in their Infinite Tsukuyomi dream, some may have been the absolute ruler of the world and others may have had a dream where people lived peacefully amongst each other.
      Thanks for the comment! Was definitely an interesting read and take. 🙂

    • @lynnusuk2092
      @lynnusuk2092 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EdoEeerieEncounters Your perspective is interesting as well. And the reason I think the will of fire was formed in the inception of the village rather than when he killed Madara, is because he was willing to kill himself for the village to even exist in the first place. I think that self sacrifice for your home is as important as eliminating threats to it in terms of core tenets. We see this occurring frequently in the story from intel gathering scouts to even hokage. They are all expected to sacrifice themselves on demand. Which is why tobirama’s final test to choose the next hokage was not who’s willing to kill the S rank ninjas pursuing them as a dignified last stand. But who’s willing to give up his life knowing he’d get kill with minimal effort from the enemy. Mirroring the day Hashirama chose to possibly end his life for peace between the Uchiha and Senju to be established. I think this is also why the last act of tobirama is fulfilling the first ideal his brother laid out for the will of fire, while spending most of his life adhering to the second creed of eliminating all threats. Not to mention it’s the reason why ninjas like kakuzu are shamed by their village for withdrawing from missions. Since failing to assassinate hashirama isn’t new, but it’s the fact they didn’t gamble their lives for a really small chance of succeeding.