I was a young offender in 1977. While in prison waiting to go to borstal one prison officer told me he would break my legs if I caused the night officer any more problems (childish noise) and then in borstal two physical education prison officers all but told me that they were going to kill me when they had the opportunity. I was 17 and weighed as much as a wet loaf of bread. The film Scum epitomised the prison officers I experienced and it reflects the ignorance of the prisoners, the staff and society at that time.
Those bullies needed to have their own legs broken I suppose they thought they were big tough men bullying vulnerable kids who were held captive, I hope they got their comeuppance some day.
Some people cannot be bullied or broken and I'm one of them , never tow the line or cower down to bullies , plus 40 years of martial arts means I can deal with any prison officer who thinks he's a tough nut. They don't like it when the tables are turned. W@nkers.
It's totally true of society and especially the public sector, I worked in shops where the older staff remember addressing their supervisor as "Mr or Mrs " and in the health service in the UK any trained member of staff was addressed by their rank "Doctor , Staff nurse etc " and untrained staff addressed as "Mr or Mrs/miss " until the early 80s . Uniforms and appearance were much more regulated and subject to scrutiny by their seniors . Doesn't happen now .
Thankyou for this, I never thought as a 7 year old kid when this was made I would go onto serving time in there myself when I got older..!! Changed My Life For Ever...!! ☮️
As a young man from 1975 to 1980, I'd spent over 4 years of it in prison. DC, Ashford Yp, then the big house Wandsworth. Obviously, I was a shit criminal kept getting caught! So this film & similar are so familiar to me. But almost every screw I met was decent & respectful. Even in Wandsworth, where it was very much an 'Us & Them' scenario. Dare we lay a finger on them? And they came at you in force. But we all knew that anyway. The misery of prison, emptiness, and sheer powerlessness were excruciatingly painful. It's even worse if you had a girl/wife on the out. Being banged up, especially Sundays where every minute seemed like an hour, every hour was like 10. When I was finally released 2nd Feb 1980 the very last time, I swore I'd never go back. And I never have. Freedom is priceless.
I did the secure unit tour in 81, refused to go to school, kept fighting with old bill and everyone else pretty much, got driven out by an abusive father until they nicked me and refused bail pending care order, Latchmere, Stamford, Orchard, even a two week locked in at Shirley Oaks, Feltham and Ashford refused to take me as did Godstone but a place came up in Redhill's secure himax unit and so began 3 years of hell, well 2 years as the last year was in the open house and no more beatings, no more handcuffs and shut off from the world and got hooked up with a local hard family bird who kept me sane with earthly goings on. I was terrible too, whenever I got sent to a new place I eyed out the biggest lad and the biggest screw and I went for 'em, always went down fighting being a well practised Millwall firm youngster I was used to a scrap then on isolation until they found a new hole to stick me in. One thing to add is Redhill had a curious attitude in the staff, we were taught how not to get nicked, I kid you not things like damage less entry into motors using a bit of windscreen wiper, this rogue of a screw/teacher he taught us about locks, cars, even how to get into drums without setting off alarms. He got sent down himself as he had a wheeze of using his truck and trailer and hoiking away broken down cars found unattended on the A23 and M23, taken to a mates yard and stripped, well he did an old bills motor and they went after him big time and prison service mattered not a bit lol As for me, did a couple of spells in remand case dropped, did a bit of military nick for whacking an officer before kicked out but have kept my nose clean so to speak and now chasing sixty fairly well behaved these days although can still kick a cretin round a car park the tough south London estates always with me for a scrap hehehe
Ah yes, the 70s. Power cuts, orange and brown curtains, outrageous chauvinism, some bloody good music, the pubs closing after lunch and, weirdly, white dog poo everywhere. A bloody strange decade to be sure!
I miss the south London that isn't the stinking kebab shop its become today... Downham estate lad, bit o' Penge and I loved it until got driven out by the old bill fed up with me selling bank robbers fast cars and were looking to drop a piracy on me if I didn't stop it, so moved to Bournemouth and did it all again hehehe
Most of the prison farms have been closed down and the land sold off, what a shame. The Prisons used to be mostly self sufficient. Having watched several documentary's of prison life recently it seems there is still a debate on funding, emphasis of approach - punishment or rehabilitation and concerns about conditions. It's obvious nothing has changed for the better and the argument goes on. In reality no one gives a shit enough to change things, the consensus being fuck em, bang em up. Nothing will change till every politician has done at least a few weeks inside.....DA.
People don,t seem to have pride in there jobs any more, cos theres always someone trying to put you down, if people had pride the work would be better the same as these POs did back in the day.
Like any arrival into a job back then, lots of advice and none of it delivered electronically. I remember writing letters, i doubt many in front of me will write one. Times change.
The last bit was disturbing, maybe prisons should prepare people for the outside, to reduce chance of re offending. "How do you expect a man to go straight if he can't look straight"
This was the real London when London was a great place when all the phone ☎ boxes where red the black cabs the old red buses you could smoke 🚬cigarettes on the bus back then when are people used say good morning to you when we all could leave or doors open all day long when London was LONDON I'm sorry but I really don't know what to make of London now i used love London it was lovely old days now if you drop a cigarette 🚬 you get a £80pound fine i really don't know what to make of it it's sad 😢
FFS REMINDS ME OF..NAME N NUMBER FOR THE GUVNOR? Jail in the late 80s was bad enough with 3 in a cell and slop out (pissing and shitting in a bucket). Washing in a bowl. No tvs in pads, only a tiny radio which could only get AM radio. No FM allowed. Had it perks though unconvicted prisoners (remanded) could have tobacco parcels sent in!!. Officers searched that guys pad very well! usually they toss the bed and sheets out on the landing and strip the cell!.
My grandad was telling me an experience he had back in 1978 when he was 21 he went on holiday to Scarborough with myand he went to the pub for a night out and got into a fight with a drunk guy who punched him but got knocked out as self defence and when he got into the prison cell he told me that when he was trying to explain one of the officers got in his face and when he told him to back away and give some personal space the guard slapped him on the face and told him if he carried on he would punch him and break his jaw luckily he managed to keep his calm and nothing escalated but hearing his experience the Police back then were absolute Bullys and Just Careless which is crazy, times have changed alot but if that was me i would've lost it.
Wow 😮 how times have changed, look at how smartly dressed & proper talking the officers are, proper suited & booted, no obese/chav tounged guards with their uniforms two sizes to big... Unlike now, state of them is shameful..🙄👌
Your absolutely right .I blame the government for cutbacks , back in those days the screws would get a house on a staff estate with clubhouse and they was a proper community. They did the job their whole life, not like now where they go straight from Burger King and last a couple of yrs .
Ive worked with the homeless for many years and a lot of them have suggested I choose a career in the prison service, I am very short and feel that would go against me, to a man they said that that is not what's important. Thing that has stopped me is this, you might be good at your job really good but a "screw is always a screw".
I was 12 years old and running in the Northern Schools cross-country championship; the past really is a foreign country. There is something comforting about this documentary, even if it is 'engineered' somewhat. I believe there were humane aspects, and tough regimes, too. Remember what type of person you are dealing with...all you liberals out there....
everybody is lean and healthy. The emphasis was on rehabilitation not so much punishment. as previous people have said those standards have long gone. just punishment. longer sentences for crimes that don't seem to warrant it. lock them up throw away the key.
And so prison should be for rehab. I know someone who went in a skinny druggie, and came out a creative loving grandparent, they were released several years ago, before prison they looked a mess, after prison they had put weight on, and seemed to glow, and they have kept their vow never to touch drugs again. What's the point in imprisoning someone just to make them worse?
The only thing I couldn't make out are the chairs in the dorm in A wing. They used to be slated wood not made out of tubular steel and wood. (a mate told me).
Loads of screws used to go into that job cos they got bullied in school and thought it would be a nice idea to be a screw so they could legally kick the shit out of people they considered scallys.
Fuck me I was in A wing Rochester borstal 77. Fucking brings back memories. Makes ya laugh dorms were rough Plenty of bullying and fights and the only thing you learned was how to steal better
Doesn't seem so back then so far in this vid. The videos of prisons in the 2nd decade of the 21st century seem much worse. I guess victorian prisons were worse than 1976, it seems like we are going backwards.
Back then, and up until the majority were privatised, prisons were owned and operated by the government, they were funded via taxes, and did government work, supporting the civil services in a way
Although some of it might be "for the cameras" there was an element of rehabilitation-mindedness amongst a number of the staff. I wonder how much of that exists today. Resources will be the biggest problem, & modern box-ticking government style. Being deprived of liberty is the punishment, added brutalisation, chain-gangs etc makes it so much worse when they inevitably have to become "our future neighbours". Europeans do all this so much better & have less repeat offending
Great now to be an LTI !!! warm duvets, TV & SKY, wifi, mobiles allowed. Rugs, special food.... hardly worth being an honest, hard working person these days...
I was a young offender in 1977. While in prison waiting to go to borstal one prison officer told me he would break my legs if I caused the night officer any more problems (childish noise) and then in borstal two physical education prison officers all but told me that they were going to kill me when they had the opportunity. I was 17 and weighed as much as a wet loaf of bread. The film Scum epitomised the prison officers I experienced and it reflects the ignorance of the prisoners, the staff and society at that time.
Those bullies needed to have their own legs broken I suppose they thought they were big tough men bullying vulnerable kids who were held captive, I hope they got their comeuppance some day.
Some people cannot be bullied or broken and I'm one of them , never tow the line or cower down to bullies , plus 40 years of martial arts means I can deal with any prison officer who thinks he's a tough nut. They don't like it when the tables are turned. W@nkers.
Well done for speaking up mate. Bullies... They're fkin everywhere in society... Needs to be called out.
My father was imprisoned for 4 year (I think) did 2 for aggravated burglary as a adult (just) He used to describe the same scenario as scum.
Although one thing , he was over careful to not go in again, it effected him such.
This level of thoughtful professionalism and organisation within Her Majesty’s Prison Service is long gone.
you make an interesting point. Why do you believe this ?
agreed
fucking privatization.
@@supergrahamg Yes I'd like to to know the reasoning behind that thought
It's totally true of society and especially the public sector, I worked in shops where the older staff remember addressing their supervisor as "Mr or Mrs " and in the health service in the UK any trained member of staff was addressed by their rank "Doctor , Staff nurse etc " and untrained staff addressed as "Mr or Mrs/miss " until the early 80s . Uniforms and appearance were much more regulated and subject to scrutiny by their seniors . Doesn't happen now .
Thankyou for this, I never thought as a 7 year old kid when this was made I would go onto serving time in there myself when I got older..!! Changed My Life For Ever...!! ☮️
You and me to bro
As a young man from 1975 to 1980, I'd spent over 4 years of it in prison. DC, Ashford Yp, then the big house Wandsworth. Obviously, I was a shit criminal kept getting caught! So this film & similar are so familiar to me. But almost every screw I met was decent & respectful. Even in Wandsworth, where it was very much an 'Us & Them' scenario. Dare we lay a finger on them? And they came at you in force. But we all knew that anyway. The misery of prison, emptiness, and sheer powerlessness were excruciatingly painful. It's even worse if you had a girl/wife on the out. Being banged up, especially Sundays where every minute seemed like an hour, every hour was like 10. When I was finally released 2nd Feb 1980 the very last time, I swore I'd never go back. And I never have. Freedom is priceless.
Well done bud 43 years later not gone back. Prison has to be that bad to be a deterrent
@@davidmarchant9386 thanks buddy I appreciate that.
I did the secure unit tour in 81, refused to go to school, kept fighting with old bill and everyone else pretty much, got driven out by an abusive father until they nicked me and refused bail pending care order, Latchmere, Stamford, Orchard, even a two week locked in at Shirley Oaks, Feltham and Ashford refused to take me as did Godstone but a place came up in Redhill's secure himax unit and so began 3 years of hell, well 2 years as the last year was in the open house and no more beatings, no more handcuffs and shut off from the world and got hooked up with a local hard family bird who kept me sane with earthly goings on. I was terrible too, whenever I got sent to a new place I eyed out the biggest lad and the biggest screw and I went for 'em, always went down fighting being a well practised Millwall firm youngster I was used to a scrap then on isolation until they found a new hole to stick me in. One thing to add is Redhill had a curious attitude in the staff, we were taught how not to get nicked, I kid you not things like damage less entry into motors using a bit of windscreen wiper, this rogue of a screw/teacher he taught us about locks, cars, even how to get into drums without setting off alarms. He got sent down himself as he had a wheeze of using his truck and trailer and hoiking away broken down cars found unattended on the A23 and M23, taken to a mates yard and stripped, well he did an old bills motor and they went after him big time and prison service mattered not a bit lol As for me, did a couple of spells in remand case dropped, did a bit of military nick for whacking an officer before kicked out but have kept my nose clean so to speak and now chasing sixty fairly well behaved these days although can still kick a cretin round a car park the tough south London estates always with me for a scrap hehehe
@dodgydruid fucking hell mate your story is powerful. I'm glad you made it this far.
@@dodgydruidcool story bro
23:50 That Chaplain is a very astute, compassionate and impressive man.
12 minutes to go
I'll let you know
Really good film and very insightful, Thanks for uploading.
The 70's! Those brown suits, giant lapels and mutton chop sideburns. Fucking incredible! Hard to believe it existed
I know,it seems like a far off country compared to now.
Yea everybody looked like the Yorkshire ripper in those days lols
Ah yes, the 70s. Power cuts, orange and brown curtains, outrageous chauvinism, some bloody good music, the pubs closing after lunch and, weirdly, white dog poo everywhere.
A bloody strange decade to be sure!
I was 10.
I miss the good old days. Also when England was England
u being ironic lad?
And it's illegal not to be gay these days
I miss the south London that isn't the stinking kebab shop its become today... Downham estate lad, bit o' Penge and I loved it until got driven out by the old bill fed up with me selling bank robbers fast cars and were looking to drop a piracy on me if I didn't stop it, so moved to Bournemouth and did it all again hehehe
What do mean when England was England exactly the truth
thanks very much for uploading
Amazing...really excellent piece of work.
Thanks for sharing, shared.
Eastwood Park. 1978. I Was There.
Got sent eastwood park from manchester juvenile court at 16 for laughing in court sent me twin to watton
Been in Maidstone. Not a claim to fame. Just a nostalgic memory!
And yes......i grew up. And did alright.
It was a good jail, loved being able to cook your own food.
Popped in there for a pick up on my way to scrubs in 83 Got 4 yrs in end. Been fine ever since
Fantastic viewing..I really enjoyed watching this video.. prison guards were in control back then..
The Northern Trainee is itching to get in and treat the prisoners like crap
it becomes more than apparent when talking to the chaplin
agreed, what a toss pot
Chris Haslam he softened later when talking about family n visits..
He would soften if kidnapped and locked in a cell for a few days.
wheres my truncheon
Andi Sadler he would soften when someone twats him with his own truncheon and breaks a few bones 😂
Seems to me they have picked all the right words to say and used the right screws to say them
Most of the prison farms have been closed down and the land sold off, what a shame. The Prisons used to be mostly self sufficient. Having watched several documentary's of prison life recently it seems there is still a debate on funding, emphasis of approach - punishment or rehabilitation and concerns about conditions. It's obvious nothing has changed for the better and the argument goes on. In reality no one gives a shit enough to change things, the consensus being fuck em, bang em up. Nothing will change till every politician has done at least a few weeks inside.....DA.
People don,t seem to have pride in there jobs any more, cos theres always someone trying to put you down, if people had pride the work would be better the same as these POs did back in the day.
I suspect that most of these prison officers have spent more time behind the prison walls than the inmates themselves....
Like any arrival into a job back then, lots of advice and none of it delivered electronically. I remember writing letters, i doubt many in front of me will write one. Times change.
4734 CARLING SIR
Weres ya fakin tool
@@mattthetaffy6702 what fucking tool
Carling retired to Spain, i should know, i pushed a big bloody rock into he's pool for a laugh, he still doesn't know who it was.
I'm the daddy naah
@@michaelearthlingsexy beast 😂😂😎
Mad too think how old this video is and that there’s more than likely a lifer that’s been there since this video was made ....
Don't kill people.
Still makes you think
The last bit was disturbing, maybe prisons should prepare people for the outside, to reduce chance of re offending. "How do you expect a man to go straight if he can't look straight"
How sad that we used to see things that way
this was when the screws run the nicks
I'm the plural version of you mate haha. I dunno bud because I done time in barlinnie and they run a tight ship there mate.
@@rawtawkofficial8484 innit some jails screws have got it on lock others is parcels every week hahaha
@@rawtawkofficial8484 Did ye, aye.
This was the real London when London was a great place when all the phone ☎ boxes where red the black cabs the old red buses you could smoke 🚬cigarettes on the bus back then when are people used say good morning to you when we all could leave or doors open all day long when London was LONDON I'm sorry but I really don't know what to make of London now i used love London it was lovely old days now if you drop a cigarette 🚬 you get a £80pound fine i really don't know what to make of it it's sad 😢
It's Maidstone you idiot!
@@Katmando376 yea but most of the inmates where cockneys lol
It is unrecognisable in many aspects, particularly for the working people.
My mum said they smoked at the bed in hospital lol 😂
MAGIC.
Nice to see my father in this he looks so young
What was he in for? Haha.
Which one is he??
I hope he wasn't the wing nonce
Did he eventually get off the cleaning duty?
Has he got
a Ciggy?
Wow! I've been working in a prison for just over 3 months now and it is really interesting to see how the service ran back then.
How's it now Jennifer???
Hi what prison do you work in ?? I'm serving A sentence in hmp parc. IV always wanted to fk A female screw
Runs home wetter then a spackers chin everyday to batter herself 💯
A lot harsher but better run than they are now.
Why do it I wouldn't for what they pay not a chance
FFS REMINDS ME OF..NAME N NUMBER FOR THE GUVNOR? Jail in the late 80s was bad enough with 3 in a cell and slop out (pissing and shitting in a bucket). Washing in a bowl. No tvs in pads, only a tiny radio which could only get AM radio. No FM allowed. Had it perks though unconvicted prisoners (remanded) could have tobacco parcels sent in!!. Officers searched that guys pad very well! usually they toss the bed and sheets out on the landing and strip the cell!.
I do 😂 😂 😂
"One onto you Mr Stiles".
"Thank you Mr Hagan".
My grandad was telling me an experience he had back in 1978 when he was 21 he went on holiday to Scarborough with myand he went to the pub for a night out and got into a fight with a drunk guy who punched him but got knocked out as self defence and when he got into the prison cell he told me that when he was trying to explain one of the officers got in his face and when he told him to back away and give some personal space the guard slapped him on the face and told him if he carried on he would punch him and break his jaw luckily he managed to keep his calm and nothing escalated but hearing his experience the Police back then were absolute Bullys and Just Careless which is crazy, times have changed alot but if that was me i would've lost it.
15 years an electrician, wants to be a prison officer ,that's crazy ,he must of been the only electrician not making money .
Good ol' muttons....
My step-father still has them.
good for him
Can I take a pair of clippers to them?
I miss Parkas. Let's go and buy a Parka.
Was there . on medway
1618 po giles he made his own rules .hard as nails
Wow 😮 how times have changed, look at how smartly dressed & proper talking the officers are, proper suited & booted, no obese/chav tounged guards with their uniforms two sizes to big...
Unlike now, state of them is shameful..🙄👌
Your absolutely right .I blame the government for cutbacks , back in those days the screws would get a house on a staff estate with clubhouse and they was a proper community. They did the job their whole life, not like now where they go straight from Burger King and last a couple of yrs .
Bull
Keep expecting to see Fletcher and Mr Mackie 😄
0.42..Robbers making off with swag...Lma
Bread and water wasn’t done away with they just stopped talking about it
Hope some of those prisoners did learn from their mistakes and go on to live good lives.Guessing most have passed away now.
Ive worked with the homeless for many years and a lot of them have suggested I choose a career in the prison service, I am very short and feel that would go against me, to a man they said that that is not what's important. Thing that has stopped me is this, you might be good at your job really good but a "screw is always a screw".
just work with the short timers then.
This was made the same year I was born and made the UK my home at two months old
I was 12 years old and running in the Northern Schools cross-country championship; the past really is a foreign country. There is something comforting about this documentary, even if it is 'engineered' somewhat. I believe there were humane aspects, and tough regimes, too. Remember what type of person you are dealing with...all you liberals out there....
@@supergrahamg - your sad sick jealousy of Us liberal brexit winners has been noted lol hahaha ha ha ha ha.
.. made in the UK your home, in your opinion.
I was 4 years old when this was filmed and born in Maidstone.
Incredible.
Fascinating input from you
was the first clip the 'great train robbery?'
Mr Barraclough
😂😂😂😂.
he was in armly
My old man at 13:50 hahahaha 🤣🤣🙆♂️🙆♂️
no need for screws to be arse holes...back then ...or now
ian higgins if you have been to prison you should know these screws or some of them are acting or going from a scrip.
No need for prisoners to be arseholes either but they need putting in place
Didn’t seem to bad better than 23 hour lock up like most have nowadays
What good is 23 hour lockup supposed to do, especially if inmates don't get on? Prison is supposed to be a crime deterrent.
One on boss
i know the screw showing the lads around his name is pat lived in white city london gwan pat
Maybe next year lad Eh, or the year after or the year after that year..!
everybody is lean and healthy. The emphasis was on rehabilitation not so much punishment. as previous people have said those standards have long gone. just punishment. longer sentences for crimes that don't seem to warrant it. lock them up throw away the key.
And so prison should be for rehab. I know someone who went in a skinny druggie, and came out a creative loving grandparent, they were released several years ago, before prison they looked a mess, after prison they had put weight on, and seemed to glow, and they have kept their vow never to touch drugs again. What's the point in imprisoning someone just to make them worse?
Just got out of Rochester and the dorms they were in are used as education now plumbing and bricklaying all the Victorian buildings are the same
Chelmsford similar
I was in the dorms when it was a borstal in77 .Tuff going but interesting ha
Yeah I done paint and dec. Taught me a lesson for a while Ended up doing 4. Clean ever since .....sought of
I was in those dorms in 74.a wing was the chaps wing...
My old man was in both. unfortunately he got caught. robbery. South London boys. Crystal Palace.
Up the Albion
"Judges must beware of hard constructions and strained inferences, for there is no worse torture than that of laws."---- Francis Bacon.
If you look through the door and their at it, that’s another charge for handling swollen goods
Good grief George HMP Maidstone Long, looks like he’s just out of shorts.
16:23, he talks about posting officers to prisons (or borstal) - was sending them by royal mail cheaper then train fares back then?
@Jamie and his magic torch hahahaaaa tickled es that
37m.40s , Quote - ( Says proudly )
" Iam what would be known as a bastard. "
They gave them the liquid cosh
And a general beating, then all the screws stick together and say he fell or threw himself around his cell..
Any man that holds the keys to another man's freedom is never truly free himself.
Where is this? Anyone know? There were quite a few who sounded like Brian Clough in my opinion.
Maidstone and Rochester Borstal/Yoi
@@mrmago6744 - thank you 🌝.
Maidstone Prison and Rochester borstal
The only thing I couldn't make out are the chairs in the dorm in A wing. They used to be slated wood not made out of tubular steel and wood. (a mate told me).
Bet most of those screws are dead now
Waylon Lewis good
@@17henke NONCE.
I think screws tend to be on their best behaviour when filmed , the opposite is true with lags.......
Being a prison officer would be a horrible job.
Although being an inmate would be worse, although that isn't really a job is it?.
THEY LOVE IT
Usually ex Army ex Plod ex SERVICES etc
Loads of screws used to go into that job cos they got bullied in school and thought it would be a nice idea to be a screw so they could legally kick the shit out of people they considered scallys.
@@CARLIN4737 usually brain dead as well
Fuck me I was in A wing Rochester borstal 77. Fucking brings back memories. Makes ya laugh dorms were rough Plenty of bullying and fights and the only thing you learned was how to steal better
@@scotsman5705 I was in Perth 10years ago.Sounds like u were in the old Ehall.
@@scotsman5705 u didn't have ur own key in c hall neither were u opened up playing pool all day in c hall....
they stated there was no actors in the film but some scenes looks contrived and false the scene and conversation with the chaplin for example
For sure!
✔
I did borstal. And young offenders. Detention many other jail as grew up settled kids Mrs. Different guy
The ones with the red in the jacket pockets - would they have been trustees?
Yep, or they used to wear red arm bands in some prisons.
Anyone done Alldington dc back in 75/76?
Is that your one jail claim to fame three month DC?
Swimming pool right that’s it oh it’s 2024 no swimming pool 😂😂
Answer that bloody phone
must be regulars as know time train comes
Looks like Maidstone Prison ???
Maidstone and what was then Rochester Borstal
Where are the corrupt screwssss ???
"the lads run the dormitory's themselves" yeah I bet they do..years of exploitation right there! tut
Prison is a business $$$$
Doesn't seem so back then so far in this vid. The videos of prisons in the 2nd decade of the 21st century seem much worse. I guess victorian prisons were worse than 1976, it seems like we are going backwards.
Back then, and up until the majority were privatised, prisons were owned and operated by the government, they were funded via taxes, and did government work, supporting the civil services in a way
Fundamentally, not much has changed. The regime is still the same, prisoners are still the same. Officers just have to call them Mr now
They do?? How ridiculous.
Although some of it might be "for the cameras" there was an element of rehabilitation-mindedness amongst a number of the staff. I wonder how much of that exists today. Resources will be the biggest problem, & modern box-ticking government style. Being deprived of liberty is the punishment, added brutalisation, chain-gangs etc makes it so much worse when they inevitably have to become "our future neighbours". Europeans do all this so much better & have less repeat offending
peter cushing at 42 minuits , didnt know he ended up working in a jail ffs
Very interesting viewing. Historical. A look at the other side! it was slightly scripted?’ Free me‼️ Mcvicar 🤣 incidentally that’s what i searched for
McVicar was a twat who couldn't handle his bang up
Hmp Durham you want lol
@@claireanderson4642 oh Claire stop it woman
21-30 the chaplain always wondered what Billy Connolly did before he became a comedian 😂😂
Acting
Good old days of pissing in potty and shit parcels. Don’t know how lucky they are nowadays
You have to remember in the 70's these was classed as holiday camps compared to the life in the 40's & 50's and they was told the same
As if they missed the train
The university of crime.
Its funny how these screws just cannot get their heads around seeing the prisoners as people ..dunno if thats good or bad thing really
will not make any deals with u patrick mcgohann the prisioner tv show
sorry its mcgohan i think
Fuck that brings back bad memories of the shit hole Maidstone the worst 10 months of my life!
Bullshit this hasn't got no actors in it ffs 😂 anyone who thinks these are *all* people are mad. Them 3 main ones at the start ate actors.
I thought the same.
"We will miss the train" in a posh accent.....
Porridge
Hmp Leeds ? (Armley)
No Maidstone (Kent)
Why on earth would anyone want to be a prison officer? I would rather be on dole
No idea, some of them probably want authority over people.
Just shows what a creep you have to be.
Slop out McVicar
"I don't care how late it is I'm not going home...".
Now days prisoners have tv drugs of all kind and cleaners.. get 24; month do 9😅
Great now to be an LTI !!! warm duvets, TV & SKY, wifi, mobiles allowed. Rugs, special food.... hardly worth being an honest, hard working person these days...
Yeah but loads of them self harm and have mental issues .
Have you ever been it's not the ritz
Dinosaurs