That's because there were no drugs flying around the place. When prison authorities banned smoking tobacco, the smuggling in of illegal drugs increased threefold.
And why’s that then? Seriously? It’s exactly the kind of price the decision makers wanted for us. Go see what Tony Blair said about this country and how he hates it then look at his decision to let millions in! Now you NEVER hear accents like this,it’s all some ghetto version of a black mans accent. We’ve been having certain people decide Britain’s path that actually hate us today.
For some reference of money purposes, £15 in 1954 is just over £510 per week. £2000 a month. Rent for 2 bedroom flat (not house with garden) is £1250 without a single bill. Council tax on top of £200 -that’s £1450 gone without even eating a bit of toast!! So picture that! You’ve given away 3/4 of your wages and you haven’t bought ANYTHING yet. Would that reporter even survive a year like that? THE UK IS A CORRUPT CESSPIT.
true, but nowadays a 2 bedroom flat means you probably have a husband or wife, and so have two wages coming in, so 4,000 quid a month rather than 2,000. If you are living on your own, and so only have one wage, you probably have a 1 bedroom flat which is going to be cheaper.
Makes me laugh how the cons would get told off for not having their buttons done up. Now, in 2024, the landings are smelling of spice and crack. How far its standards have dropped since 1970
It also makes me laugh how one of them is complaining about being locked up for 22 and a half hours at weekends when it's now common for prisoners to be behind there doors for 23 you're a day all bloody week. No wonder everyone's on drugs.
The landings smelt much worse back then. They had no toilets in the cells back then. They had to slop out and 💩in a bucket or what most people would do is 💩on newspaper and throw it out the window ( shit parcels they were called).
Hilarious that you thought there were "standards" back then. We certainly have serious problems now, but you clearly know nothing about how bad jails were in that era. Go and have a read up about what was happening in Medolsmley Road detention centre back then for example. Paedophile officers abusing young prisoners. Violence that was off the scale. And you're talking about buttons? It shows the superficiality of your mind.
Remember my dad doing 18 months in Wandsworth, would have been 70/71 I think. Strange seeing what he would have lived through. Once a month visits, taking him his bit of Old Holborn. He worked in the kitchens, so when he came home his speciality was spam fritters 🤣
@@senecaknowledge2274 How very perceptive of you! Yes, I did end up going the same way. Even at 8 years old I could see that prison life was the life for me. Well, it was bound to happen, you know what people of my ilk are like. If only I could have been like you, if only I'd had that feeling of superiority and the confidence to name myself for such an intellectual giant. Things could have been so different.
Typical self pity from the dunce, complaining that his kids run around in rags but he doesn't think of them when he's out thieving or make any effort to be there with them even if it meant working a boring job. Absolutely selfish attitude to life.
Mainly an 'allocation' nick back in those days. Wandsworth was run like a militaristic regime right up into the late 1980's. It could be brutal if it was your first time passing through that place. I remember being ordered to clean that Centre star with wire wool. The screws would stand in the middle & step on your hands. Needless to say, it was on purpose to send you over the top & I ended up in the block.
A great insight into prison life in 1970 and not one man was uninteresting to listen to. Why any system would expect these men not to go on to reoffend when they're being given no incentives to change their ways, is the real mystery
Back when nicks were proper nicks, sloping out, canteen on a Friday afternoon, visits every 2weeks, 1 film a week just after showers and clothes/ bedding exchange 1 for 1 😂
Beautifull reportage !! Love it ; these prisonners today would be lost and taken advantage off.. Even criminals were way better back then what a world we are living in !
The large pile of books on the shelf in the corner... without a telly in every cell it was amazing how much and how widely the average man read while inside.
That fellow was explaining what it was like to be part of the working poor. No future. No way of ever owning your own home. Just working yourself to death just to survive. And all around you is the landed gentry. My ex father in law was from Hull and he said his greatest regret in life was not coming to Australia in the 1960's when he had the chance. It's harder here now but back then a working man could get ahead in Australia, raise a family, and buy his own home. England has always been bleak for the average working man.
5:33 Stop taking things that don’t belong to you and then you can enjoy your weekends at home instead of in the nick ( is what I would of told him at the time) -
One of the first lessons i learnt was when someone asks for a snout (cigarette ) dont give them your tobacco ,they will roll themselves a burn the size of a sausage !!!
I was in Wandsworth during 1975 was awaiting transfer to HMP Northeye. Worked in the Brush Shop. Constantly burning my fingers from dipping the brush hairs into the hot tar. Wouldn't be allowed today. Slopping out. The smell🤮
That’s exactly how prisons should be run today instead of these holiday camps with absolutely no discipline. This country has gone far too soft in more than one way. Bring back the old style of Britain get rid of undesirables. go back to basics when a man was a man, and a woman was a woman instead of what we’ve got. Now Arthur wants to be. Martha and Martha wants to be Hartha. What a strange set up we have today with all the do gooders
@@hhuodod2209 yes exactly, we can start with you. I’ve changed to a wall feed your bread and water and leave you there at least 12 months you would come out a better person believe me
@@hhuodod2209 you can stay if you like, I will think of something good for people like yousomething you wouldn’t like, giving you a job and making you earn your living instead of scrounging off the state how do you fancy that dosser?
Always amused me how the screws in Wandsworth called each other "Sir". The dread 'Centre' where the Chief would stand bang in the middle. Eagle eyed for minor offenses and haircuts. God forbid you went in the wrong direction round it.
That geezer being interviewed at the end did raise a valid point, & with all the current inflation, not a great deal has changed for the majority in these current times. Most mundane task jobs still pay pittance wages today. I maintain the word job stands for just over broke in many instances. Not unless we are skilled individuals with a trade, or possess the acumen to run our own business.
Yea but back then you worked longer hours for the same equivalent wages, and it was easy to fire some slacker on the spot. My grandfather worked as a full time delivery driver 48 hrs a week to pay all the bills with, then he worked 2 hrs each evening cleaning to pay for his cigarettes. And every Sunday in a pub to pay for other luxuries. He didn't consider himself hard done by, and past away at 68 years old, this was back in the late 70s. Life itself was tougher for the average person back then, he'd wander around local dumping grounds and back alleys picking up brown bottles and lemonade bottles that you get 3p or 5p for in the shops, he'd give his grandkids this money, he never owed anybody anything and would never buy anything on tick, credit, he'd save up and buy. Would seem odd to young people today, but there was nothing unusual in what he did, many people lived like this.. In his younger days it was even worse, joined the military served in ww2, was captured escaped, recaptured escaped again, and recaptured, spending 3 years in a pow camp in Germany. Again his life wasn't that much different to those of his friends
@@adrinathegreat3095 same here. My grandfather worked in a factory during the daytime, but (this is astonishing to people now) was a postman in the mornings too, doing early morning deliveries.
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
Every jail the length and breadth of the country was the same hence why the riots stated mid eighty's well the once that made the news .there all cess pits
Most people had TV by the late 60s. It was a little different 20 years or so before that. My Grandparents,my Dad and other people from their village piled into the local Squire's house to watch Queen Elizabeth II's Coronation on his TV because they were rare in the 50s. By the mid 60s my Grandparents and most of the local working class owned their own TV sets.
@@Ron.M-yo9ht That's true. BBC was the same for everyone nationwide but ITV was run on a regional basis and every region had different broadcast scheduling. Good point.
I got 12 months because the police said I would get 3 years if I went not guilty, so I went guilty for attempted burglary when I was young, I could not stop going back , police messed me up luckily my dad would always send me my money an clothes, in years 2000 to about 05
... 8:17 Wouldn't Liked to Have Been His 'Pad-Mate' "WHINGE MOAN MOPE" Every 2 Minutes. Probably Ticked ✅ His Day's Off Like a Xmas Advent Calendar 🗓️. Long Sentence's with Moaning Malcolm's Who Do Their Television Interview's Whilst Showering 🚿... JOLLY DECENT DOCUMENTARY... 🏴✌️👍
its a long time to spend in there each day watching people, so these things help officers pass the days. its like a game. another one was to meddle with the workshop clocks. moving them backwards and forwards to play with perceptions. that used to make them very confused. @@Jdac333
Prisoners back then seem more intelligent and eloquent than today's these days they're trying to sound yardy with all sorts of stupid speak
I was thinking the very same. There has definitely been a dumbing down in society in general the last 20-30 years
That's because there were no drugs flying around the place. When prison authorities banned smoking tobacco, the smuggling in of illegal drugs increased threefold.
And why’s that then? Seriously? It’s exactly the kind of price the decision makers wanted for us.
Go see what Tony Blair said about this country and how he hates it then look at his decision to let millions in!
Now you NEVER hear accents like this,it’s all some ghetto version of a black mans accent.
We’ve been having certain people decide Britain’s path that actually hate us today.
@@eamonnevans8005 thats not thee reason… theres a huge vacuum of decades between those events
... They've never been able to Spoke Good England Property 😂😂😂 1:59
For some reference of money purposes, £15 in 1954 is just over £510 per week.
£2000 a month.
Rent for 2 bedroom flat (not house with garden) is £1250 without a single bill.
Council tax on top of £200 -that’s £1450 gone without even eating a bit of toast!!
So picture that! You’ve given away 3/4 of your wages and you haven’t bought ANYTHING yet.
Would that reporter even survive a year like that?
THE UK IS A CORRUPT CESSPIT.
Couldn't agree more.
Agree 2
jamessones4044
I can agree with expensive but where is the corruption ?
true, but nowadays a 2 bedroom flat means you probably have a husband or wife, and so have two wages coming in, so 4,000 quid a month rather than 2,000. If you are living on your own, and so only have one wage, you probably have a 1 bedroom flat which is going to be cheaper.
🤯👍
That opening theme music...so familiar and comforting. Fantastic programme. Thank you for uploading.
It was too.
Makes me laugh how the cons would get told off for not having their buttons done up. Now, in 2024, the landings are smelling of spice and crack. How far its standards have dropped since 1970
It also makes me laugh how one of them is complaining about being locked up for 22 and a half hours at weekends when it's now common for prisoners to be behind there doors for 23 you're a day all bloody week.
No wonder everyone's on drugs.
@@robashton8606that's why is called a prison. You get locked up.
The landings smelt much worse back then. They had no toilets in the cells back then. They had to slop out and 💩in a bucket or what most people would do is 💩on newspaper and throw it out the window ( shit parcels they were called).
30:59 Sounds bloody posh for someone who grew up on a council estate!🤔😬Somehow, I don’t think council estates back then were what they are now!
Hilarious that you thought there were "standards" back then. We certainly have serious problems now, but you clearly know nothing about how bad jails were in that era. Go and have a read up about what was happening in Medolsmley Road detention centre back then for example. Paedophile officers abusing young prisoners. Violence that was off the scale. And you're talking about buttons? It shows the superficiality of your mind.
Brilliant documentary, not one "ya get me blud" to be heard
Was about to say the same thing. "innit bruv" 🤣
I totally agree with you can't stand that noise they spout now.
The word moves forward unfortunately for you boys. 😂
Init Bruv, its sick!
If modern dialect is an issue that is worth worrying about - your life must be good. You should be cheesin’ fam.
Remember my dad doing 18 months in Wandsworth, would have been 70/71 I think. Strange seeing what he would have lived through. Once a month visits, taking him his bit of Old Holborn. He worked in the kitchens, so when he came home his speciality was spam fritters 🤣
Did you end up going the same way ?… many people of your ilk tend to.
What an appalling thing to say to someone! What makes you so superior?
@@senecaknowledge2274 How very perceptive of you! Yes, I did end up going the same way. Even at 8 years old I could see that prison life was the life for me. Well, it was bound to happen, you know what people of my ilk are like. If only I could have been like you, if only I'd had that feeling of superiority and the confidence to name myself for such an intellectual giant. Things could have been so different.
@@seymourwithem7154lol
@@senecaknowledge2274 youd get proper done in or maybe you already have ?
Typical self pity from the dunce, complaining that his kids run around in rags but he doesn't think of them when he's out thieving or make any effort to be there with them even if it meant working a boring job. Absolutely selfish attitude to life.
17.15 anyone else notice he has a whole finger missing? Days of the slop out, no tv and all screws ex military,.
Yes ,I noticed that
Wandsworth is 5 star compared to the Moorish castle in Gibraltar . Brixton is much nicer but nowadays for would need to learn Albanian to get by.😂😅😂😅
Mainly an 'allocation' nick back in those days. Wandsworth was run like a militaristic regime right up into the late 1980's. It could be brutal if it was your first time passing through that place. I remember being ordered to clean that Centre star with wire wool. The screws would stand in the middle & step on your hands. Needless to say, it was on purpose to send you over the top & I ended up in the block.
stay out of trouble lad.
@@buy.to.let.britainbecause prison will make you twenty times worse
Excellent documentary. No loud unnecessary banging noise. 👍
A great insight into prison life in 1970 and not one man was uninteresting to listen to. Why any system would expect these men not to go on to reoffend when they're being given no incentives to change their ways, is the real mystery
Back when nicks were proper nicks, sloping out, canteen on a Friday afternoon, visits every 2weeks, 1 film a week just after showers and clothes/ bedding exchange 1 for 1 😂
Beautifull reportage !! Love it ; these prisonners today would be lost and taken advantage off.. Even criminals were way better back then what a world we are living in !
Whenever I watch one of these they're all whinging about being locked up. The answer is relatively simple. STOP BREAKING THE LAW!!!!!!
It’s not that simple, you’re a sheep who accepts the system as it is. Alpha type personalities push back
Exactly. Hence the maxim: if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
5.58 "That's a right load of cobblers" said with such conviction 😆
The large pile of books on the shelf in the corner... without a telly in every cell it was amazing how much and how widely the average man read while inside.
There was nothing else to do for them.
My cell was full of books in 2023 when l went to prison for no tv licence 😂
Wouldn't the insurance rate go up though in the area?
"Getting what you deserved " brilliant answer!
5:57 lol…proper old timey “right load of old cobblers”
Even on this the comments section is full of braggers 🙄🙄🙄
That fellow was explaining what it was like to be part of the working poor. No future. No way of ever owning your own home. Just working yourself to death just to survive. And all around you is the landed gentry. My ex father in law was from Hull and he said his greatest regret in life was not coming to Australia in the 1960's when he had the chance. It's harder here now but back then a working man could get ahead in Australia, raise a family, and buy his own home. England has always been bleak for the average working man.
Can’t believe they have ties ,nothing better for strangling someone ,very strange
They had razors too 😮
5:33 Stop taking things that don’t belong to you and then you can enjoy your weekends at home instead of in the nick ( is what I would of told him at the time) -
4:48 he says how much rent was. Cheap back than.
Like Porridge but without the punchlines
One of the first lessons i learnt was when someone asks for a snout (cigarette ) dont give them your tobacco ,they will roll themselves a burn the size of a sausage !!!
Not so much drugs in prisons back then such as spice to make the prisoners loose their minds
Just dont get yaself in jail
The good old days
all the old prisons were once workhouses and have an even darker history. the truth is the best story never told
Didn't know Trevor from GTA 5 served time here.
I was in Wandsworth during 1975 was awaiting transfer to HMP Northeye. Worked in the Brush Shop. Constantly burning my fingers from dipping the brush hairs into the hot tar. Wouldn't be allowed today. Slopping out. The smell🤮
I was in Wandsworth in 1962 and the yard was controlled by the East L.A. Crips.
I was there in 1970 and the yard was being controlled by nuns
Wrong, it was controlled by the same corrupt officers who locked Sylvester Stallone up.
yeah, but who held the keys to the yard? Who was the shotcaller?
I was in there then .iwas blood
I was in there in 70 for 3 month but managed to dig my way out the yard ..took me 6 months using a JCB i made in the workshop.
Very true a product of your environment
That’s exactly how prisons should be run today instead of these holiday camps with absolutely no discipline. This country has gone far too soft in more than one way. Bring back the old style of Britain get rid of undesirables. go back to basics when a man was a man, and a woman was a woman instead of what we’ve got. Now Arthur wants to be. Martha and Martha wants to be Hartha. What a strange set up we have today with all the do gooders
This doesn’t work though. The most successful prison systems are those in Scandinavia.
There's zero respect these days or should I say fear.
So some kind of dictatorship. You can leave the UK if you like😂
@@hhuodod2209 yes exactly, we can start with you. I’ve changed to a wall feed your bread and water and leave you there at least 12 months you would come out a better person believe me
@@hhuodod2209 you can stay if you like, I will think of something good for people like yousomething you wouldn’t like, giving you a job and making you earn your living instead of scrounging off the state how do you fancy that dosser?
Always amused me how the screws in Wandsworth called each other "Sir".
The dread 'Centre' where the Chief would stand bang in the middle. Eagle eyed for minor offenses and haircuts. God forbid you went in the wrong direction round it.
Him with the baldie head and moustache ,I've seen in 2 other different prison documentaries he's an actor...
Old stool jail reminded me of strangeways
The judges seek only glory for themselves that they would attest the days before the flood are upon us for they themselves have seen Abraham live.
Reminds me of my childhood back in the Sixties ..
At 10 :28 you hear a very loud fart!!!!!!
Filmed in 1965.
Says June 1970.
To be fair the hairstyles and clothes seem more mid-1960s. By the late 60s, the long hair, sideburns and crap styles all came in.
"Dare-gradiation" lol
Typical UK crazy place ha ha .
That geezer being interviewed at the end did raise a valid point, & with all the current inflation, not a great deal has changed for the majority in these current times. Most mundane task jobs still pay pittance wages today. I maintain the word job stands for just over broke in many instances. Not unless we are skilled individuals with a trade, or possess the acumen to run our own business.
Yea but back then you worked longer hours for the same equivalent wages, and it was easy to fire some slacker on the spot.
My grandfather worked as a full time delivery driver 48 hrs a week to pay all the bills with, then he worked 2 hrs each evening cleaning to pay for his cigarettes.
And every Sunday in a pub to pay for other luxuries.
He didn't consider himself hard done by, and past away at 68 years old, this was back in the late 70s.
Life itself was tougher for the average person back then, he'd wander around local dumping grounds and back alleys picking up brown bottles and lemonade bottles that you get 3p or 5p for in the shops, he'd give his grandkids this money, he never owed anybody anything and would never buy anything on tick, credit, he'd save up and buy.
Would seem odd to young people today, but there was nothing unusual in what he did, many people lived like this..
In his younger days it was even worse, joined the military served in ww2, was captured escaped, recaptured escaped again, and recaptured, spending 3 years in a pow camp in Germany.
Again his life wasn't that much different to those of his friends
@@adrinathegreat3095 same here. My grandfather worked in a factory during the daytime, but (this is astonishing to people now) was a postman in the mornings too, doing early morning deliveries.
Quite fascinating in many ways. I'd really love to know what became of all these guys. Many sad stories here.
I agree ☝️
Life long criminals who wasted most of their lives in jail I most likely.
@@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadio yes 👍
@@danrobinson572 Yes Dan 👊🏾
What year is this?
Brilliant documentary, not one "ya get me blud" to be heard
Thanks
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !"
Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ."
Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
My wing as well i was on c4
When doing time was doing time no computers or hypnotic propaganda boxes to stew you mind with
What year was this documentary?
Around 1970.
@@jonathanmarshall2802 thank-you
sw16 nick they was all corrupt
They shouldn't degradiate that man
Rugby player 46:24
I agree ☝️
Degraidiation
I think he meant."degradation"
funny...how....we...use...too....be..!
great theme music. who wrote it
What does one expect from a nation that once dumped petty criminals and poor people on the other side of the world?
I was in Brixton for two weeks and Wandsworth for four weeks.little sample
Late 1970
Only 45 year's ago.
Can't script it.
Prison now 2024
54 years ago
@@StevieZero OK
Feck me 1855/1948
Prison
Anything different.
Most lad's and lasses in HMP would say know.
No difference
I remember Wandsworth pf2190
As a con that brass centre the screws stood on we had to walk round
i was in brixton in the early 80s and it was a victorian nightmare and overcrowded but at the time wandsworth was considered to be more brutal.
prisons are for mugs,I hope you saw sense !
Every jail the length and breadth of the country was the same hence why the riots stated mid eighty's well the once that made the news .there all cess pits
I wonder what year this is??
1970.
@@RascalMcBants okay 👍 thought 💭 it was earlier than that since it’s black and white.
Same, mate. Just Googled it, I was surprised too. I could be wrong like.@@danrobinson572
@@andysmith8890 ok
@@danrobinson5721965
Razor blades in prison ?!
Treat give your old one in and get a new one, then they changed to disposable
I understand what this man is saying your punishment is being there your not there to be punished
Shit.
Is that Alan Whicker.
melvinnolan
Yes that was him, at the time he was serving a 12 months sentance for car theft
One million and a half pounds,shouldn’t it be one and a half million pounds?
No
@@LuciThomasHardylover-qx6ts why
This is totally interesting Especially around this time not many people had a TV 24/7
Most people had TV by the late 60s. It was a little different 20 years or so before that. My Grandparents,my Dad and other people from their village piled into the local Squire's house to watch Queen Elizabeth II's Coronation on his TV because they were rare in the 50s. By the mid 60s my Grandparents and most of the local working class owned their own TV sets.
@@Wulfyr I agree but not everyone had a chance to see this programme It would depend on what part of the UK / region Not like today 👍
@@Ron.M-yo9ht That's true. BBC was the same for everyone nationwide but ITV was run on a regional basis and every region had different broadcast scheduling. Good point.
3 fingered bald man was cool as fuck…
Why
@@southlondon86 because he was sharp and menacing whilst relaxed in his cage. Interesting and cool as fuck.
I wonder what happened to him?
I’m curious myself.
Is this 60s?
1860s by the looks of it. Shame it wasn't filmed in colour.
@@swaneknoctic9555I agree 👍
@@swaneknoctic9555 well, as colour wasn’t widely used in the 60s then I guess we can forgive it?
@@mwd331 we can. However if it were a North American production chances are it would have been recorded in color.
1965
I got 12 months because the police said I would get 3 years if I went not guilty, so I went guilty for attempted burglary when I was young, I could not stop going back , police messed me up luckily my dad would always send me my money an clothes, in years 2000 to about 05
We all know the pigs are bent
How about not breaking the law and then you dont have to spend any time a the cell :)
2024 man fucking the screws
Cruel. No other way to describe it.
The hate factory.
... 8:17 Wouldn't Liked to Have Been His 'Pad-Mate' "WHINGE MOAN MOPE" Every 2 Minutes. Probably Ticked ✅ His Day's Off Like a Xmas Advent Calendar 🗓️. Long Sentence's with Moaning Malcolm's Who Do Their Television Interview's Whilst Showering 🚿... JOLLY DECENT DOCUMENTARY... 🏴✌️👍
I was a PO here for 5 years. I used to get a lot of joy stepping on the hands of prisoners who were cleaning the centre star with wire wool.
U wouldn't do it outside prison tho would you.
True!!!! He'd have to phone the police like a coward
Big man. Wouldn’t be so brave 1-1, no uniform.
its a long time to spend in there each day watching people, so these things help officers pass the days. its like a game. another one was to meddle with the workshop clocks. moving them backwards and forwards to play with perceptions. that used to make them very confused. @@Jdac333
He is joking you know folks. 😂