Yamaha R1 rides with BMW S1000RR *BAD IDEA* 🤕
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 พ.ค. 2022
- What do you think went wrong? Yamaha R1 wanted to ride with BMW S1000RR on Tail of the Dragon. Ends up going bad when the R1 brakes too late and overshoots the turn into the mountain. Rider and motorcycle were both fine. No injuries and R1 is still running strong.
What do you think went wrong? - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
my number one rule is to never push myself beyond what I feel comfortable in order to keep up
It is called a pressure to chase. Be patient,ride on your limit.
Just keep leaning bro!
true, the pressure...he was keeping pretty good, with minor Mistakes, until Wristy increased the Pressure, almost at the End and R1 just tried too much to catch him- and yes, that Turn is ultra-sketchy!!
Wristy too fast for these people
Ride to YOUR LIMITS, NOT SOMEONE ELSE'S, it will only go wrong, find some other bikers, who ride like you, ride safe, rubber side down shiny side up 👍👍👍
Then Max won’t get his content at other people’s expense.
@@neilmayers8782 :U prefer riding alone. I get into enough trouble on my own. Two idiots are more dangerous than one on his or her own.
That was some spirited riding while it lasted. Much quicker than I'd dare to try any longer. I don't bounce so well any more. And I like to think I've got a little wiser.
I’ve ridden the Dragon twice on my R1. This guy never should have been in 1st gear, ever. It’s mostly a 2nd gear road with a bit of 3rd. He was looking at the lead rider’s line instead of using his own line. When he dropped from 3rd to 2nd it upset the bike’s rear and caused the wobble. He should have left it whatever gear he was committed to before entry and leaned harder since he was off his line. He then made the mistake of hitting his front brake, as you can see by the sudden drop in speed (which causes the bike to want to stand up and go straight) and make it harder to lean. Wrong gear, wrong line.
Absolutely - first is for starting off, never for when you're already moving, way too much torque for tight corners plus any slight throttle movement will cause havoc leaned right over.
Some guru in the Tube, even suggest of braking with the front rotors, into a curve, all the worst when the audience has not enough knowledge about two-wheels dynamics.
@@robertomalatesta6604 as long as you have good brake control, you can get away with using the front brake in a corner, not for the novice but an experienced rider can pull it off
@@carlwood7588 Oh well, very interesting; and exactly, how do you convey to an inexperienced rider, how to brake with good brake control? Yes, because experienced rider do not need the advice anyway... njoy your rides.
That dip corner is always a fun surprise. Nothing overly complicated, just didn't realize it was coming up as it's hard to see. Was going too fast and then every gets light as you enter the dip. It's practically a jump. Can't really do anything at that point I don't think. It's similar in a car. This might be the dip where I get so much sudden compression in the car that my front splitter hits the ground which it doesn't really do anywhere else.
Man I missed it again by 15 minutes! All my love! Half of your crew... 🐰💞
I feel like the moment he got moving with some speed up into third gear his brain wasn’t ready to handle the oncoming turns at that velocity after being in first gear for so long
Dang that was a bummer and so close to the end as well. Hey Wristy I'm gonna be out at the Tail July 7th thru the 10th and would love to meet and ride with ya. Any idea if your gonna be out there at that time? Either way keep the awesome content coming and keep those 2-wheels DOWN🤘😎
seemed like he was KTG for a minute there..
What recording equipment is installed on the Yamaha R1? How is it captured so well without a distorted image in the corners and without rattling and shaking?
Awesome ride!
Slow it down and it looks like his back end lifted. Dude shouldn't be riding everywhere in 1st anyway, on off throttle is just going to upset the bike, not like he was accelerating hard either. Smooth is fast 👌
Yeah 2nd would have been better for the route. But he definitely could have made it through the turn at that speed. Hard panic braking. But I get it, split second to make a decision. It happens to the best. Ask Max 😂
@@jeremybly agreed he should of stuck in there and went for it worst thing he would of done is slow side and have been in the same spot but more of a chance happens to everyone some times we get hung up and forget to ride it out
Or just learn how to corner..
@@elonmust7470 he is/was a good rider. Just made a mistake. It happens when following somebody fast. Ego can make us do stupid stuff
@@jeremybly Bro is your last sentance English? I haven't been on a supersport in 12 years. I JUST got back in the game & I'm planning on killing it. So far I don't see much in the word of competition.
I love the Honda sp1 I know it's old but it's just amazing
A golden rule when you run in too hot, is “Turn Your Head” and look through the corner.
The bike will go wherever you are looking.
It’s something you have to practice at reasonable speeds, so that it becomes second nature.
When I was much younger I ran off an embankment once, by looking where I didn’t want to go!
Bugga!
Dude caught a little bit of air right befor that turn which he wasn’t expecting,caught it at just the right moment and enough that it messed him up for the turn and he knew it and pulled the clutch in and tried to do whatever he could…but making that turn wasn’t happening after catching the air. Glad he’s good, shit happens…
As we all know…..it happens. Glad he’s ok 👌
Came through right after that and seen you guys posted up. Had the fz09 chasing a couple of fast motards
Very helpful comments for a new rider like myself, thank you!!! That third gear was not it... I hope he is alright 🤯🙏🙏🙏
Best advice for a new rider is don't do this shit.
Yes,, go faster gradually, even if it takes months for a small perceived increment, and try not to front-brake into (not before...) a curve; having not to brake into a curve, might mean you got the drill...
Always killing the Game!!..🏁💀🏁
I can from his bike see your level of concentration Wristy and that the Dragon is quite a technical road. I think he was focused on your bike and not the technicalities of that corner
It looked more like the rider wasn't very experienced more-so than any bike issue, but then again suspension setup and tires make a big difference. The rider seemed pretty jerky though the corners, so something was off. The Beemer rider set up nicely for each corner and was pretty smooth. Hopefully the R1er didn't get hurt. I had 3 R1s and they were all amazing bikes.
That turn is called the whip for a good reason hopefully he is ok
R1s like most 1000s are quite responsive and very torquey so 1st gear was a big issue. Plenty of torque for 2nd or even 3rd in a lot of places. That being said the little dip combined with the late braking, downshift and the panic grabbing the front brake ( which will drastically unsettle the chassis) all combined to teach this guy a valuable lesson. Glad he got to learn it instead of the other option and that him and the bike will ride again. 👍
100% the case, r1 and s1000rr virtually evenly matched.
@@redneckrebelzracing2891 especially with a bad section of road
I had the same take on it, R1 dude was riding well beyond his skill level.
Took a (safe) shortcut for more speed but then was late on the brakes and couldn't scrub it. I feel if he would have stayed in the lane he would have braked earlier, and been set up for the corner better. A bit of "catch up" syndrome, but otherwise good riding!
Same thoughts.
How I see it as well. Started his turn too early and went to make an adjustment under braking which upset the bike and threw him off the line. Unfortunate
Agreed.
Ditto
You see his front wheel wiggle and then knows he can't make that turn. Watching this video, I caught my head leaning left and right...sorta like watching a tennis match. LOL
I knew he was going to wreck when I saw him taking some of those corners 😳😳😳😳 front tire was wobbly and came off a few times mid transition…
Beautiful bikes beautiful view
Yeah, braking with a foot -- top level technics
I see Saturday it has a chance to rain but are you going to be out Sunday? I was thinking coming up that way.
Always a shame to see a guy go down. Happens to best of us. Yes, looked like he grabbed the front brake. Came in to hot. Glad he was not hurt. You guys have fun. Hope to get down myself next month.
That ain't comin in hot..............
@@jimthompson717 He must be getting old.
@UCuMzGWKZrzI8Em3Pdy9_2-Q HAHAHA
Aprilia rider at the beginning was super smooth
nice video man....great...
Max Wrist he's the man Nobody Rips like he can KTG All Day Long Carving the Canyons all day Long @maxwrist number ☝
I visualized instantly- you yelling this into the Camera close frame, waving a Hand around LOL😆🤩😄
@@mitabekrijabejn than you know me🙏✌👍👍💥💥🤘☝mo Powa
Glad he’s ok. A lot of mistakes, rear brake caused the bike to become unstable, and rider panicked and crashed. Just a little of counter steering he’d be just fine. Luckily no oncoming traffic.
Thought he was coming in too hot, grabbed the brakes and target fixated on the side of the road
Oh he definitely went in too hot, that’s a 40mph corner that turns into a jump any faster, he was going like 65 when it came time to dip.
@@armyguy608 he could have saved it if he didnt target fixate
Looks exhausting
Gonna be on Dan the Fireman!
this is an easy evaluation. he was averaging 50mph on every curve before that point. Then, he gets up to 111mph... he starts to slow down but his entry speed to that slight curve was 80mph... almost double the entry speed of every curve before that. he freaked out, panicked, hit the front brake on a curve (front wheel wobbles), and loses control.
Always difficult to access the real situation on a simple video.
Agree - having already done this (finish in the field by braking in the curve) ...
Unless you are a pro, brake in a curve, it straightens and deports the bike...and this is not the desired effect... don't forget : 1-BRAKE at the beginning of the curve and 2-you can reaccelerate when you SEE the end of the curve... Among other things ...
It looks like road geometry. Left curve quickly transitioning to a smaller radius right curve with a dip in the transition between the curves caused loss traction to achieve/maintain lean angle. That is, he was still transitioning through the upright position when the right curve was started. Likely the suspension decompressed in that left right transitioning made worse by the dip in the road in between curves making tire contact/traction reduce so his apparent attempt to brake(note dragging foot) was insufficient for the length of pavement he had left in a straight line. A detailed survey plotted up for cross sections of the pavement would give more insight to breakdown what occurred. I’d say that particular back to back curve (no straight transitioning length between curves) is what messed him up. The lead driver must have tracked a different path than the painted centreline and been more familiar with it.
I think you're right about the road geometry.The same area is featured in a LOT of motorcycle crash videos. They go into the ditch at about the same place too.
Very nice pipe sounds exhaust sir
some nice lines from first rider.
Every ride is a learning experience don't throw the white towel just keep on saddle time. Things will get a lot better every time, Enjoy each ride and try not to get killed in the process. Nice round all in all.
That dip in the road just as he was going into the bend caught him out, clearly the BMW suspension handled the road better there.
It wasn’t the road… riding above his skill limits….
I watched the rear cam view and that bike got squiggly as hell...... Add in the braking and it was a done deal.
Another one bites the dust. 😬😮🤷🏼♀️ At least this guy was wearing full gear. He basically made the same mistake Dayna's son did. Only this guy was operating at a higher riding level and the consequences were far less severe. Today's reminder lesson for us is: (1) scrub off as much speed as possible without locking up the brakes, (2) lean the bike over, and (3) commit 100% through the corner!!!
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Dayna has a son crashing in these videos somewhere? Never seen that one. Didn't even know the guy existed
there is a jump right before the turn. Its clearer from the second angle.
Very nice road !!!!
When he started crossing the double yellow is when he went above his comfort zone
The R1 guy literally had no control over the bike in the whole video... Just look at him how he traces the curves and how much he is fixing it's cornering while dragging knee
Never sacrifice surface for position 😁
Looked overly committed in his riding attitude imo..
Super Nice Video and glad the Rider is Ok 👌🏼 I’ve learned a lot from the video and the comments. This must be the BEST public road ridden by bikers on the tube! Where is this? 👊🏼
Love that my helmet is just on the trash can 😅
So many mid corner adjustments makes my eyes and soul hurt, my track instructor would batter me with a swing arm whenever i did that. Pick a line stick to it
I think he was just running to hot in to the turn then panic break, once you lose the rear traction, like in this case, you cant lean because you will for sure go down or worst, high side when you catch grip out of the breaking, think he thought safest bet was to ride it out, I did the same thing. when you know your going down your trying to find the least damaging path. or many times its just out of your hands and you just do the best you can with the mistake already made
🔥 KTG
Looks like his rear tire came off the road when he crossed the mustard.
Check that man’s front tire he seem to have a couple of washouts before he went down
That's why you don't try to catch up to some one with more riding time/higher skill level, ride at your own pace, you're not losing or winning anything here except your bike and some of your health in this particular case.
Agreed... There will always... ALWAYS be someone faster than you.. accept it. Ride your own ride at your own level. Or drive it into a ditch, or worse off a cliff.. your choice.
(Sees lap timer running on r1)
OH brother..
I wonder if he did that so there's no speedo showing on the video in case he gets pulled over?
@@MultiFridgeRaider Speedo is there too on the screen. He probably just tracks his time for the full runs
Still cant get how they ride on that road so confident
Damn come on Maxy don’t left the hairpins scare you lol 😂
bad line, panic brake... seen that one play out before it happened based on the bad like from fixing on the rider ahead.
his line was fine. just braked too late, for his skill level
Mr MotoGP champion over here smh "seen that one play out before it happened" yea sure you did. Just like you saw Marquez's high side play out before it happened
R1 was in first gear most of the time.
Same with V4?
Obvi a good rider. Might not have the familiarity with the dragon like eddy. He just came in to this one way too hot. I wouldn’t call it panic braking or target fixation. More of a misjudgment in time and space. He was staying with Wristy for the most part. The Dragon has a way of sneaking up on you and spitting you out. It’s an advanced, technical road that lacks flow.
Max make some keychains that say
“Can’t Wrist? Stay on the Porch!”
“Can’t ride the Tail, Stay on the Porch!”
Willing to bet sag and suspension setting have never been touched. The bike look very strange at times. It wouldn’t hold a line through turns and seem to pitch forward a lot.
Met the R1 guy last year when I was down there. Didn't get a chance to ride with him, as he rolled up as I was loading up the bike. Cool guy, shame to see that happen, glad he is ok.
Will say, I liked his camera set up. Is it some type of gyroscopic setup, or just leveled out in editing?
He might be running GoPro horizontal + linear option on I run that too when I ride
What gyro cam is on the R1?
There was also a Groove in the road at the turn. The road was damaged at the same place in the turn as the previous corner. He obviously wasn't familiar. The guy with the s1000 was fairly smooth but I still don't understand why somebody would take a liter bike on that stretch of road. Seems like something a CR500 with road tires would be an absolute blast to ride. Anyway hope everybody is okay
R1 my No1 bike.
Lost traction in the front and shit pants (froze up). Could have taken that corner tho!!
Thanks for sharing!!!
Hard breaks at that speed & trying to initiate tip in....bet the ABS set off, lost focus due to unanticipated break pressure minimization and stood the bike up...right into classic target fixation. Hope he's ok.
I don't think there's any situation where front brake beyond the start of the corner is going to tighten your turn angle. No matter how fast your entry speed is, you're always better off getting off that brake and attempting the corner if getting round it is the primary concern.
Speed = radius, one of the basic principles of riding fast. If you have enough grip and you're trail braking properly, more brake will always tighten your turn. Use the brakes until you're happy with your speed AND direction.
My mate did the same thing, came in too hot and rather than lean it in he backed off stood the bike up and rode into the railing…nut up and lean in!
Can't blame the surface.
If conditions catch you out it's because you don't know the road ahead and are going way too fast to deal with anything unexpected.
Plus, as per comments below; caning it and braking too much. Work on keeping it steady, keeping it smooth. Speed comes naturally. Looked a cracking road to me.
He probably target fixated or was trying to slow down so much he was afraid to lean and loose traction. It looked like he slowed to about 55-60; some good trail braking and counter steer would have probably saved him
T'ha Wristy Voodoo 🤯🤯🤯😤
Gostei dessa estrada, ela é o sonho de todos que pilotam uma esportiva...
Back end comes loose ?
Rider level... I reckon you got fixation after giving it a burst
I think he may have been braking fairly hard as he passed over the painted yellow lines & when the tires hit pavement again it grabbed traction causing it to wobble like that...
Even the painted lines alone can cause a wobble. I think you have the right idea, the lines caused the wobble and threw the bike off line.
Must be fun to ride in 1st gear the whole time
Why first gear the whole way? Actually just saw what happened when you hit third.
I think this dude still rides a lot better than Go hard or go home. He pushed it a lit too hard. But he dont slip in every 5th corner like Go hard or go home.
Yeah go hard needs to practice corners
But atleast I didn’t crash
@@gohardorhomefz1 But its more because of luck, than your skill. Maybe that would be a good idea to go to a track, there you can learn riding techniques, getting familiar with your and your bikes limits. Cause how i see you could easily be a good rider just you dont move your body enough. And positioning your body could help a lot in corners, and it can encrase your corner speeds too.
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This is body positioning explained.
Theirs many pros and moto gp rider's on TH-cam that have explained that you want your spine parallel to chasis not a v shape. Life at lean and moto jitsu explain why body position made a big difference in your riding.
@@gohardorhomefz1 which we are all surprised by.
Total sketch at 1:36. Then he passes on the outside at 4:07. You knew it it was coming.
1st gear gear is just slowing him down too much to keep up. Smooth crash though. Hope is ok!
Ouch! That panic brake was ugly. Glad he is ok though.
Appeared to me that he went in nose heavy and hit a patch in the road close to his line and got and his bike got upset. The lead rider cornered outside of it. Just one of those things we carry insurance for. Definitely not lack of experience.
Decided to watch this video as I’m about to fall asleep in bed for the night. Now I have vertigo and I feel nauseous.
He was at 80mph and decelerating hard asf as the corner started, had he started braking earlier that would have been avoided.
Or if he knew HOW to corner...
@@elonmust7470 I wasn't going to go that deep but you're right, committing to that corner he had a chance.
@@_NOKNFOZ_ These riders do the same thing golfers do. They have nothing but good intentions, but they overcomplicate things & spend energy in the wrong places. Every ss rider wants to drag a knee. To me, the knee drag is a byproduct of proper posture, in a turn. Not tue primary goal. Just watch how riders do a little dipsy drag a doo on each & every single corner. "Oh got my knee down on that corner, mission accomplished!"
Glad he's ok - lucky it wasn't a left hander as that slope and the trees would take no prisoners!
His rear slipt abit and then he started to break and maybe even looking at the ground or straight ahead instead of looking where he needed to go.... he should have dived into the turn
Lean instead of braking. But I know fear is something we cannot control in a second.. Look far away ahead ..he had a lot of time to read better that curve. But ok. What you can do is trial braking... step on the rear brake gently, and lean lean lean..One experience that finished good this time. Keep practicing, keep looking ahead more further and most important if you see that someone speed in front of you is not matching your skills, just let the ego down and enjoy the ride. Cheers
Talk about a panic brake
What was the extent of
His injuries?
I miss the Dragon nothing like it in California
with the 1st gear it is dangerous with the R1 I don’t know the bmw but so much power on the back wheel
Find that kid that gapped you last year the R6! No street cred on that 1k if you can’t at least keep up with him. Stay safe! There are Savages up there on the Dragon who do not get beat, it is their turf and you can tell when you ride there and none of them ride 1000’s it’s crazy!
he had that by far little panic for sure it happens bro
Never seen anyone ride this much in 1st gear!? Is that right?
Staying in your lane will help with knowing how fast to go and how soon you need to break. Breaking line to catch up /get extra speed will shaft you.. 2nd gear is prolly the best place to stay. I wouldn’t even think about 1st?? That’s like no go zone..
Esto va a estar épico papus
Kind of looks like his rear shock might be worn out or set way too soft
speeds of up to 50mph wow awesome!
It was a slow crash and the vegetation helped, take care guys!