I’ve ridden the Dragon twice on my R1. This guy never should have been in 1st gear, ever. It’s mostly a 2nd gear road with a bit of 3rd. He was looking at the lead rider’s line instead of using his own line. When he dropped from 3rd to 2nd it upset the bike’s rear and caused the wobble. He should have left it whatever gear he was committed to before entry and leaned harder since he was off his line. He then made the mistake of hitting his front brake, as you can see by the sudden drop in speed (which causes the bike to want to stand up and go straight) and make it harder to lean. Wrong gear, wrong line.
Absolutely - first is for starting off, never for when you're already moving, way too much torque for tight corners plus any slight throttle movement will cause havoc leaned right over.
Some guru in the Tube, even suggest of braking with the front rotors, into a curve, all the worst when the audience has not enough knowledge about two-wheels dynamics.
@@robertomalatesta6604 as long as you have good brake control, you can get away with using the front brake in a corner, not for the novice but an experienced rider can pull it off
@@carlwood7588 Oh well, very interesting; and exactly, how do you convey to an inexperienced rider, how to brake with good brake control? Yes, because experienced rider do not need the advice anyway... njoy your rides.
true, the pressure...he was keeping pretty good, with minor Mistakes, until Wristy increased the Pressure, almost at the End and R1 just tried too much to catch him- and yes, that Turn is ultra-sketchy!!
Ride to YOUR LIMITS, NOT SOMEONE ELSE'S, it will only go wrong, find some other bikers, who ride like you, ride safe, rubber side down shiny side up 👍👍👍
@@neilmayers8782 :U prefer riding alone. I get into enough trouble on my own. Two idiots are more dangerous than one on his or her own. That was some spirited riding while it lasted. Much quicker than I'd dare to try any longer. I don't bounce so well any more. And I like to think I've got a little wiser.
Slow it down and it looks like his back end lifted. Dude shouldn't be riding everywhere in 1st anyway, on off throttle is just going to upset the bike, not like he was accelerating hard either. Smooth is fast 👌
Yeah 2nd would have been better for the route. But he definitely could have made it through the turn at that speed. Hard panic braking. But I get it, split second to make a decision. It happens to the best. Ask Max 😂
@@jeremybly agreed he should of stuck in there and went for it worst thing he would of done is slow side and have been in the same spot but more of a chance happens to everyone some times we get hung up and forget to ride it out
@@jeremybly Bro is your last sentance English? I haven't been on a supersport in 12 years. I JUST got back in the game & I'm planning on killing it. So far I don't see much in the word of competition.
That dip corner is always a fun surprise. Nothing overly complicated, just didn't realize it was coming up as it's hard to see. Was going too fast and then every gets light as you enter the dip. It's practically a jump. Can't really do anything at that point I don't think. It's similar in a car. This might be the dip where I get so much sudden compression in the car that my front splitter hits the ground which it doesn't really do anywhere else.
Dude caught a little bit of air right befor that turn which he wasn’t expecting,caught it at just the right moment and enough that it messed him up for the turn and he knew it and pulled the clutch in and tried to do whatever he could…but making that turn wasn’t happening after catching the air. Glad he’s good, shit happens…
It looked more like the rider wasn't very experienced more-so than any bike issue, but then again suspension setup and tires make a big difference. The rider seemed pretty jerky though the corners, so something was off. The Beemer rider set up nicely for each corner and was pretty smooth. Hopefully the R1er didn't get hurt. I had 3 R1s and they were all amazing bikes.
R1s like most 1000s are quite responsive and very torquey so 1st gear was a big issue. Plenty of torque for 2nd or even 3rd in a lot of places. That being said the little dip combined with the late braking, downshift and the panic grabbing the front brake ( which will drastically unsettle the chassis) all combined to teach this guy a valuable lesson. Glad he got to learn it instead of the other option and that him and the bike will ride again. 👍
You see his front wheel wiggle and then knows he can't make that turn. Watching this video, I caught my head leaning left and right...sorta like watching a tennis match. LOL
I feel like the moment he got moving with some speed up into third gear his brain wasn’t ready to handle the oncoming turns at that velocity after being in first gear for so long
Is about lines, he was too much on his right when right turn come up very quickly as he had some speed, nothing very hard to make but he wasn't prepared for that turn and when this happens your brain say BRAKE as much you can and this is the biggest mistake, you must brake but trail brake into the corner apex and push down the f4cking bike your tires will be able to make the turn don't worry most of crashes happen because you don't trust you bike and tires is about fighting your fears of leaning more when needed
this is an easy evaluation. he was averaging 50mph on every curve before that point. Then, he gets up to 111mph... he starts to slow down but his entry speed to that slight curve was 80mph... almost double the entry speed of every curve before that. he freaked out, panicked, hit the front brake on a curve (front wheel wobbles), and loses control.
Always difficult to access the real situation on a simple video. Agree - having already done this (finish in the field by braking in the curve) ... Unless you are a pro, brake in a curve, it straightens and deports the bike...and this is not the desired effect... don't forget : 1-BRAKE at the beginning of the curve and 2-you can reaccelerate when you SEE the end of the curve... Among other things ...
Took a (safe) shortcut for more speed but then was late on the brakes and couldn't scrub it. I feel if he would have stayed in the lane he would have braked earlier, and been set up for the corner better. A bit of "catch up" syndrome, but otherwise good riding!
How I see it as well. Started his turn too early and went to make an adjustment under braking which upset the bike and threw him off the line. Unfortunate
Another one bites the dust. 😬😮🤷🏼♀️ At least this guy was wearing full gear. He basically made the same mistake Dayna's son did. Only this guy was operating at a higher riding level and the consequences were far less severe. Today's reminder lesson for us is: (1) scrub off as much speed as possible without locking up the brakes, (2) lean the bike over, and (3) commit 100% through the corner!!! ❤❤❤
Glad he’s ok. A lot of mistakes, rear brake caused the bike to become unstable, and rider panicked and crashed. Just a little of counter steering he’d be just fine. Luckily no oncoming traffic.
User error , Bike was ok but rider became target fixated on line , Suggest more track days and riding he will be fine , I've been on the dragon a few times, The speeds they were going can be increased thru practice and more practice.
The R1 guy literally had no control over the bike in the whole video... Just look at him how he traces the curves and how much he is fixing it's cornering while dragging knee
I can from his bike see your level of concentration Wristy and that the Dragon is quite a technical road. I think he was focused on your bike and not the technicalities of that corner
Always a shame to see a guy go down. Happens to best of us. Yes, looked like he grabbed the front brake. Came in to hot. Glad he was not hurt. You guys have fun. Hope to get down myself next month.
It looks like road geometry. Left curve quickly transitioning to a smaller radius right curve with a dip in the transition between the curves caused loss traction to achieve/maintain lean angle. That is, he was still transitioning through the upright position when the right curve was started. Likely the suspension decompressed in that left right transitioning made worse by the dip in the road in between curves making tire contact/traction reduce so his apparent attempt to brake(note dragging foot) was insufficient for the length of pavement he had left in a straight line. A detailed survey plotted up for cross sections of the pavement would give more insight to breakdown what occurred. I’d say that particular back to back curve (no straight transitioning length between curves) is what messed him up. The lead driver must have tracked a different path than the painted centreline and been more familiar with it.
I think you're right about the road geometry.The same area is featured in a LOT of motorcycle crash videos. They go into the ditch at about the same place too.
That's why you don't try to catch up to some one with more riding time/higher skill level, ride at your own pace, you're not losing or winning anything here except your bike and some of your health in this particular case.
Agreed... There will always... ALWAYS be someone faster than you.. accept it. Ride your own ride at your own level. Or drive it into a ditch, or worse off a cliff.. your choice.
Yes,, go faster gradually, even if it takes months for a small perceived increment, and try not to front-brake into (not before...) a curve; having not to brake into a curve, might mean you got the drill...
Obvi a good rider. Might not have the familiarity with the dragon like eddy. He just came in to this one way too hot. I wouldn’t call it panic braking or target fixation. More of a misjudgment in time and space. He was staying with Wristy for the most part. The Dragon has a way of sneaking up on you and spitting you out. It’s an advanced, technical road that lacks flow.
@@_NOKNFOZ_ These riders do the same thing golfers do. They have nothing but good intentions, but they overcomplicate things & spend energy in the wrong places. Every ss rider wants to drag a knee. To me, the knee drag is a byproduct of proper posture, in a turn. Not tue primary goal. Just watch how riders do a little dipsy drag a doo on each & every single corner. "Oh got my knee down on that corner, mission accomplished!"
Mr MotoGP champion over here smh "seen that one play out before it happened" yea sure you did. Just like you saw Marquez's high side play out before it happened
Staying in your lane will help with knowing how fast to go and how soon you need to break. Breaking line to catch up /get extra speed will shaft you.. 2nd gear is prolly the best place to stay. I wouldn’t even think about 1st?? That’s like no go zone..
I think he was just running to hot in to the turn then panic break, once you lose the rear traction, like in this case, you cant lean because you will for sure go down or worst, high side when you catch grip out of the breaking, think he thought safest bet was to ride it out, I did the same thing. when you know your going down your trying to find the least damaging path. or many times its just out of your hands and you just do the best you can with the mistake already made
Dang that was a bummer and so close to the end as well. Hey Wristy I'm gonna be out at the Tail July 7th thru the 10th and would love to meet and ride with ya. Any idea if your gonna be out there at that time? Either way keep the awesome content coming and keep those 2-wheels DOWN🤘😎
i dont get you guys, riding along some valley of death-trees that fast, as if you perfectly know the actual street conditon behind every bend. falling down you may kill yourself and a bunch of squirrels too. lucky you didnt slide into a tree! seen too much human damage caused by trees or guardrails, that aint worth it. besides the fact, that you put every other road user in danger too or scare them to death! just go to the track and drive more savely on public roads! greetings from germany anyways and drive save! hope you´re ok
Every ride is a learning experience don't throw the white towel just keep on saddle time. Things will get a lot better every time, Enjoy each ride and try not to get killed in the process. Nice round all in all.
Can't blame the surface. If conditions catch you out it's because you don't know the road ahead and are going way too fast to deal with anything unexpected. Plus, as per comments below; caning it and braking too much. Work on keeping it steady, keeping it smooth. Speed comes naturally. Looked a cracking road to me.
I think this dude still rides a lot better than Go hard or go home. He pushed it a lit too hard. But he dont slip in every 5th corner like Go hard or go home.
@@gohardorhomefz1 But its more because of luck, than your skill. Maybe that would be a good idea to go to a track, there you can learn riding techniques, getting familiar with your and your bikes limits. Cause how i see you could easily be a good rider just you dont move your body enough. And positioning your body could help a lot in corners, and it can encrase your corner speeds too.
\| = incorrect | | = Best This is body positioning explained. Theirs many pros and moto gp rider's on TH-cam that have explained that you want your spine parallel to chasis not a v shape. Life at lean and moto jitsu explain why body position made a big difference in your riding.
So many mid corner adjustments makes my eyes and soul hurt, my track instructor would batter me with a swing arm whenever i did that. Pick a line stick to it
I never ride that hard on public road. You can have fun with less miles and be more safe... Otherwise, you go to a track! He was really lucky for not crushing on a tree or rock...
Total grip lose ... lots of factors to include rear rebound, target fixation , not enough engine breaking. I still thinks he a good rider but paved patch roads require lots of runs to memorize pavement.. R1 1st gear wakes up 10rpm.. then bang 2nd then oh shit corner.. I bet he glanced at speedo. = too late
Lean instead of braking. But I know fear is something we cannot control in a second.. Look far away ahead ..he had a lot of time to read better that curve. But ok. What you can do is trial braking... step on the rear brake gently, and lean lean lean..One experience that finished good this time. Keep practicing, keep looking ahead more further and most important if you see that someone speed in front of you is not matching your skills, just let the ego down and enjoy the ride. Cheers
He was riding good I dont know what made him freeze up I think the rut in road there threw his turn off and he kinda panicked and froze up then it was to late ... wristy can do a compilation of riders that crashed he single handedly can account for about 100 motorcycles destroyed 🤔😆
"... the rut in road there..." Yes, I noticed that too and I think it made the front tire loose some grip and therefore he could hardly use the front brake to trail brake.
Yes, because people are not that smart, and then they go for a ride with him, one thing is that Wristy makes sketchy moves on the road from time to time (many of his accidents are his fault) and then the second thing people try to keep up with him with a small knowledge about the road, and it ends like This... Max Wrist would be probably the last person i would go on a ride with
From my canyon runs I always stick to inside, inside yellow lane never cross double yellow even when I ran against much better bikes on my oil tanker 06 10r. I think to make up lost ground he took double yellow, which he wasn't use to recovering the lines on brakes, I never practiced all double yellow, so I didn't have it refined and avoided doing it because speed lines especially on entry changes. If it isn't practiced and refined wouldn't do it. That was the mistake. Also running behind someone concentrating on your own craft is another thing instead of trying to match especially if the person is slightly faster. Anyway he reduced speed well and binned it safest possible. Our road has raveens with large redwood trees nothing like this, I've gone down hitting trees and made it due to great gear. Luckily he slowed down and was a perfect ditch to lay it
Until you are familiar with a bike getting out of shape under you it's hard not to lock up and go rigid when it lets go a bit or does something unexpected.. when you do that you tend to just go straight on. Unfortunately on a road it's pretty hard to practice that scenario. Physical limits are hard things to explore.. it's why they are called limits and you often only learn by hitting them. On a road that usually means stuffing yourself into something
He probably target fixated or was trying to slow down so much he was afraid to lean and loose traction. It looked like he slowed to about 55-60; some good trail braking and counter steer would have probably saved him
What recording equipment is installed on the Yamaha R1? How is it captured so well without a distorted image in the corners and without rattling and shaking?
Find that kid that gapped you last year the R6! No street cred on that 1k if you can’t at least keep up with him. Stay safe! There are Savages up there on the Dragon who do not get beat, it is their turf and you can tell when you ride there and none of them ride 1000’s it’s crazy!
I don't think there's any situation where front brake beyond the start of the corner is going to tighten your turn angle. No matter how fast your entry speed is, you're always better off getting off that brake and attempting the corner if getting round it is the primary concern.
Speed = radius, one of the basic principles of riding fast. If you have enough grip and you're trail braking properly, more brake will always tighten your turn. Use the brakes until you're happy with your speed AND direction.
I have done the tail of the dragon. I have been named the Townsend flash in 2007-8 . I got a gun pulled on my in Townsend and pulled over on the dragon with my 2007 CBR 1000. A 600cc bike can kill all on the dragon because 3rd gear is max!
I think he may have been braking fairly hard as he passed over the painted yellow lines & when the tires hit pavement again it grabbed traction causing it to wobble like that...
His riding posture was very good but his choice of line made me worry in the beginning. My Golden rule is to always stay in my lane, helmet will never even get close to the middle line. He messed up because he took a corner straight therefore coming in too hot, and because he was riding in 1st the entire time he was used to the engine braking In first gear, so he also didnt expect to brake that hard…
The big problem was rather that he was so scared and did not dare to put the motorcycle into the curve. You can hear the blocking and the light blow in the handlebars, after this he should have given immediately countersteer with which then the motorcycle would have put in the curve. But yes, easier said than done - with us here in Switzerland in the mountains he would now be dead.
The R1 was forever correctly his line through corners. He got this one extra wrong with his acceleration just prior. He braked, the bike wobbled, he panicked lifted the bike straight, froze and into the bank he went. But for the grace of God, there go I.
Look, it happens to the best of us and I don’t want to just throw shade. It was poor poise and positioning and being outside your “safe” road abilities Bike was riding the rider at the end and this lacked flow and gentle throttle control. Smooth is fast and fast is sexy! There will be many better riders than me here but I want to offer my experience - be light and almost delicate on the bars, really be relaxed and well seated for this type of riding (you’re not on track) and work into body positioning, knees down etc as your flow and smoothness improves. Although it looks mad and aggressive, I most enjoy riding and am fastest and have the least drama on the road when I am gentle on the bars and fluid. Enjoy the ride, there is no destination!
watched the clip a few times now just before the drop. his friend in front has certainly picked the line through the curve and the follower hasn't got the line up correct , there is a dip in the road but it looks like he was off track before the dip. always always always ride at your speed not friends ! and never ever ever follow......be yourself be safe .
Hard breaks at that speed & trying to initiate tip in....bet the ABS set off, lost focus due to unanticipated break pressure minimization and stood the bike up...right into classic target fixation. Hope he's ok.
Appeared to me that he went in nose heavy and hit a patch in the road close to his line and got and his bike got upset. The lead rider cornered outside of it. Just one of those things we carry insurance for. Definitely not lack of experience.
Looked like a typical rear-brake and straighten-up crash. In this case it was actually the right boot doing the panic braking. Picked a nice soft landing spot though.
His rear slipt abit and then he started to break and maybe even looking at the ground or straight ahead instead of looking where he needed to go.... he should have dived into the turn
Perhaps a better rider than I, but still lacking experience on the Dragon and perhaps on the 200+ HP R1, his biggest mistake was taking it out of 1st Gear.
He is way too focused on trying to drag a knee than riding a good clean line consistently by having the correct lean angle for each specific curve & the speed at which he is taking each curve. You don't always want to be hanging off the bike on every single curve, especially the smooth gradual curves taken at speeds under 45-50 (ish) mph. Hopefully that makes sense & isn't too confusing, lol.
Trust the rider is OK. Looks pretty clear to me that a patchy road surface was the main cause of this incident with riders line and speed sealing the deal...
Super Nice Video and glad the Rider is Ok 👌🏼 I’ve learned a lot from the video and the comments. This must be the BEST public road ridden by bikers on the tube! Where is this? 👊🏼
What a fun toy; where one mistake can you leave without your legs. I love motorcycles. Ive owned them. But quiet honestly, most everyone I know that has had a bike, has crashed can caused an injury that is for life.
I’ve ridden the Dragon twice on my R1. This guy never should have been in 1st gear, ever. It’s mostly a 2nd gear road with a bit of 3rd. He was looking at the lead rider’s line instead of using his own line. When he dropped from 3rd to 2nd it upset the bike’s rear and caused the wobble. He should have left it whatever gear he was committed to before entry and leaned harder since he was off his line. He then made the mistake of hitting his front brake, as you can see by the sudden drop in speed (which causes the bike to want to stand up and go straight) and make it harder to lean. Wrong gear, wrong line.
Absolutely - first is for starting off, never for when you're already moving, way too much torque for tight corners plus any slight throttle movement will cause havoc leaned right over.
Some guru in the Tube, even suggest of braking with the front rotors, into a curve, all the worst when the audience has not enough knowledge about two-wheels dynamics.
@@robertomalatesta6604 as long as you have good brake control, you can get away with using the front brake in a corner, not for the novice but an experienced rider can pull it off
@@carlwood7588 Oh well, very interesting; and exactly, how do you convey to an inexperienced rider, how to brake with good brake control? Yes, because experienced rider do not need the advice anyway... njoy your rides.
my number one rule is to never push myself beyond what I feel comfortable in order to keep up
It is called a pressure to chase. Be patient,ride on your limit.
Just keep leaning bro!
true, the pressure...he was keeping pretty good, with minor Mistakes, until Wristy increased the Pressure, almost at the End and R1 just tried too much to catch him- and yes, that Turn is ultra-sketchy!!
Wristy too fast for these people
Ride to YOUR LIMITS, NOT SOMEONE ELSE'S, it will only go wrong, find some other bikers, who ride like you, ride safe, rubber side down shiny side up 👍👍👍
Then Max won’t get his content at other people’s expense.
@@neilmayers8782 :U prefer riding alone. I get into enough trouble on my own. Two idiots are more dangerous than one on his or her own.
That was some spirited riding while it lasted. Much quicker than I'd dare to try any longer. I don't bounce so well any more. And I like to think I've got a little wiser.
Slow it down and it looks like his back end lifted. Dude shouldn't be riding everywhere in 1st anyway, on off throttle is just going to upset the bike, not like he was accelerating hard either. Smooth is fast 👌
Yeah 2nd would have been better for the route. But he definitely could have made it through the turn at that speed. Hard panic braking. But I get it, split second to make a decision. It happens to the best. Ask Max 😂
@@jeremybly agreed he should of stuck in there and went for it worst thing he would of done is slow side and have been in the same spot but more of a chance happens to everyone some times we get hung up and forget to ride it out
Or just learn how to corner..
@@elonmust7470 he is/was a good rider. Just made a mistake. It happens when following somebody fast. Ego can make us do stupid stuff
@@jeremybly Bro is your last sentance English? I haven't been on a supersport in 12 years. I JUST got back in the game & I'm planning on killing it. So far I don't see much in the word of competition.
That dip corner is always a fun surprise. Nothing overly complicated, just didn't realize it was coming up as it's hard to see. Was going too fast and then every gets light as you enter the dip. It's practically a jump. Can't really do anything at that point I don't think. It's similar in a car. This might be the dip where I get so much sudden compression in the car that my front splitter hits the ground which it doesn't really do anywhere else.
Dude caught a little bit of air right befor that turn which he wasn’t expecting,caught it at just the right moment and enough that it messed him up for the turn and he knew it and pulled the clutch in and tried to do whatever he could…but making that turn wasn’t happening after catching the air. Glad he’s good, shit happens…
It looked more like the rider wasn't very experienced more-so than any bike issue, but then again suspension setup and tires make a big difference. The rider seemed pretty jerky though the corners, so something was off. The Beemer rider set up nicely for each corner and was pretty smooth. Hopefully the R1er didn't get hurt. I had 3 R1s and they were all amazing bikes.
That turn is called the whip for a good reason hopefully he is ok
R1s like most 1000s are quite responsive and very torquey so 1st gear was a big issue. Plenty of torque for 2nd or even 3rd in a lot of places. That being said the little dip combined with the late braking, downshift and the panic grabbing the front brake ( which will drastically unsettle the chassis) all combined to teach this guy a valuable lesson. Glad he got to learn it instead of the other option and that him and the bike will ride again. 👍
100% the case, r1 and s1000rr virtually evenly matched.
@@redneckrebelzracing2891 especially with a bad section of road
I had the same take on it, R1 dude was riding well beyond his skill level.
As we all know…..it happens. Glad he’s ok 👌
You see his front wheel wiggle and then knows he can't make that turn. Watching this video, I caught my head leaning left and right...sorta like watching a tennis match. LOL
I feel like the moment he got moving with some speed up into third gear his brain wasn’t ready to handle the oncoming turns at that velocity after being in first gear for so long
Is about lines, he was too much on his right when right turn come up very quickly as he had some speed, nothing very hard to make but he wasn't prepared for that turn and when this happens your brain say BRAKE as much you can and this is the biggest mistake, you must brake but trail brake into the corner apex and push down the f4cking bike your tires will be able to make the turn don't worry most of crashes happen because you don't trust you bike and tires is about fighting your fears of leaning more when needed
this is an easy evaluation. he was averaging 50mph on every curve before that point. Then, he gets up to 111mph... he starts to slow down but his entry speed to that slight curve was 80mph... almost double the entry speed of every curve before that. he freaked out, panicked, hit the front brake on a curve (front wheel wobbles), and loses control.
Always difficult to access the real situation on a simple video.
Agree - having already done this (finish in the field by braking in the curve) ...
Unless you are a pro, brake in a curve, it straightens and deports the bike...and this is not the desired effect... don't forget : 1-BRAKE at the beginning of the curve and 2-you can reaccelerate when you SEE the end of the curve... Among other things ...
Took a (safe) shortcut for more speed but then was late on the brakes and couldn't scrub it. I feel if he would have stayed in the lane he would have braked earlier, and been set up for the corner better. A bit of "catch up" syndrome, but otherwise good riding!
Same thoughts.
How I see it as well. Started his turn too early and went to make an adjustment under braking which upset the bike and threw him off the line. Unfortunate
Agreed.
Ditto
Another one bites the dust. 😬😮🤷🏼♀️ At least this guy was wearing full gear. He basically made the same mistake Dayna's son did. Only this guy was operating at a higher riding level and the consequences were far less severe. Today's reminder lesson for us is: (1) scrub off as much speed as possible without locking up the brakes, (2) lean the bike over, and (3) commit 100% through the corner!!!
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Dayna has a son crashing in these videos somewhere? Never seen that one. Didn't even know the guy existed
Glad he’s ok. A lot of mistakes, rear brake caused the bike to become unstable, and rider panicked and crashed. Just a little of counter steering he’d be just fine. Luckily no oncoming traffic.
User error , Bike was ok but rider became target fixated on line , Suggest more track days and riding he will be fine , I've been on the dragon a few times, The speeds they were going can be increased thru practice and more practice.
I knew he was going to wreck when I saw him taking some of those corners 😳😳😳😳 front tire was wobbly and came off a few times mid transition…
The R1 guy literally had no control over the bike in the whole video... Just look at him how he traces the curves and how much he is fixing it's cornering while dragging knee
Never sacrifice surface for position 😁
Looked overly committed in his riding attitude imo..
Thought he was coming in too hot, grabbed the brakes and target fixated on the side of the road
Oh he definitely went in too hot, that’s a 40mph corner that turns into a jump any faster, he was going like 65 when it came time to dip.
@@Unlikleyracer he could have saved it if he didnt target fixate
seemed like he was KTG for a minute there..
I can from his bike see your level of concentration Wristy and that the Dragon is quite a technical road. I think he was focused on your bike and not the technicalities of that corner
Man I missed it again by 15 minutes! All my love! Half of your crew... 🐰💞
That dip in the road just as he was going into the bend caught him out, clearly the BMW suspension handled the road better there.
It wasn’t the road… riding above his skill limits….
I watched the rear cam view and that bike got squiggly as hell...... Add in the braking and it was a done deal.
Always a shame to see a guy go down. Happens to best of us. Yes, looked like he grabbed the front brake. Came in to hot. Glad he was not hurt. You guys have fun. Hope to get down myself next month.
That ain't comin in hot..............
@@jimthompson717 He must be getting old.
@UCuMzGWKZrzI8Em3Pdy9_2-Q HAHAHA
Yeah, braking with a foot -- top level technics
It looks like road geometry. Left curve quickly transitioning to a smaller radius right curve with a dip in the transition between the curves caused loss traction to achieve/maintain lean angle. That is, he was still transitioning through the upright position when the right curve was started. Likely the suspension decompressed in that left right transitioning made worse by the dip in the road in between curves making tire contact/traction reduce so his apparent attempt to brake(note dragging foot) was insufficient for the length of pavement he had left in a straight line. A detailed survey plotted up for cross sections of the pavement would give more insight to breakdown what occurred. I’d say that particular back to back curve (no straight transitioning length between curves) is what messed him up. The lead driver must have tracked a different path than the painted centreline and been more familiar with it.
I think you're right about the road geometry.The same area is featured in a LOT of motorcycle crash videos. They go into the ditch at about the same place too.
Max Wrist he's the man Nobody Rips like he can KTG All Day Long Carving the Canyons all day Long @maxwrist number ☝
I visualized instantly- you yelling this into the Camera close frame, waving a Hand around LOL😆🤩😄
@@mitabekrijabejn than you know me🙏✌👍👍💥💥🤘☝mo Powa
That's why you don't try to catch up to some one with more riding time/higher skill level, ride at your own pace, you're not losing or winning anything here except your bike and some of your health in this particular case.
Agreed... There will always... ALWAYS be someone faster than you.. accept it. Ride your own ride at your own level. Or drive it into a ditch, or worse off a cliff.. your choice.
Very helpful comments for a new rider like myself, thank you!!! That third gear was not it... I hope he is alright 🤯🙏🙏🙏
Best advice for a new rider is don't do this shit.
Yes,, go faster gradually, even if it takes months for a small perceived increment, and try not to front-brake into (not before...) a curve; having not to brake into a curve, might mean you got the drill...
Obvi a good rider. Might not have the familiarity with the dragon like eddy. He just came in to this one way too hot. I wouldn’t call it panic braking or target fixation. More of a misjudgment in time and space. He was staying with Wristy for the most part. The Dragon has a way of sneaking up on you and spitting you out. It’s an advanced, technical road that lacks flow.
Total sketch at 1:36. Then he passes on the outside at 4:07. You knew it it was coming.
He was at 80mph and decelerating hard asf as the corner started, had he started braking earlier that would have been avoided.
Or if he knew HOW to corner...
@@elonmust7470 I wasn't going to go that deep but you're right, committing to that corner he had a chance.
@@_NOKNFOZ_ These riders do the same thing golfers do. They have nothing but good intentions, but they overcomplicate things & spend energy in the wrong places. Every ss rider wants to drag a knee. To me, the knee drag is a byproduct of proper posture, in a turn. Not tue primary goal. Just watch how riders do a little dipsy drag a doo on each & every single corner. "Oh got my knee down on that corner, mission accomplished!"
bad line, panic brake... seen that one play out before it happened based on the bad like from fixing on the rider ahead.
his line was fine. just braked too late, for his skill level
Mr MotoGP champion over here smh "seen that one play out before it happened" yea sure you did. Just like you saw Marquez's high side play out before it happened
I love the Honda sp1 I know it's old but it's just amazing
Staying in your lane will help with knowing how fast to go and how soon you need to break. Breaking line to catch up /get extra speed will shaft you.. 2nd gear is prolly the best place to stay. I wouldn’t even think about 1st?? That’s like no go zone..
I think he was just running to hot in to the turn then panic break, once you lose the rear traction, like in this case, you cant lean because you will for sure go down or worst, high side when you catch grip out of the breaking, think he thought safest bet was to ride it out, I did the same thing. when you know your going down your trying to find the least damaging path. or many times its just out of your hands and you just do the best you can with the mistake already made
Dang that was a bummer and so close to the end as well. Hey Wristy I'm gonna be out at the Tail July 7th thru the 10th and would love to meet and ride with ya. Any idea if your gonna be out there at that time? Either way keep the awesome content coming and keep those 2-wheels DOWN🤘😎
i dont get you guys, riding along some valley of death-trees that fast, as if you perfectly know the actual street conditon behind every bend. falling down you may kill yourself and a bunch of squirrels too. lucky you didnt slide into a tree! seen too much human damage caused by trees or guardrails, that aint worth it. besides the fact, that you put every other road user in danger too or scare them to death! just go to the track and drive more savely on public roads! greetings from germany anyways and drive save! hope you´re ok
Every ride is a learning experience don't throw the white towel just keep on saddle time. Things will get a lot better every time, Enjoy each ride and try not to get killed in the process. Nice round all in all.
Can't blame the surface.
If conditions catch you out it's because you don't know the road ahead and are going way too fast to deal with anything unexpected.
Plus, as per comments below; caning it and braking too much. Work on keeping it steady, keeping it smooth. Speed comes naturally. Looked a cracking road to me.
I think this dude still rides a lot better than Go hard or go home. He pushed it a lit too hard. But he dont slip in every 5th corner like Go hard or go home.
Yeah go hard needs to practice corners
But atleast I didn’t crash
@@gohardorhomefz1 But its more because of luck, than your skill. Maybe that would be a good idea to go to a track, there you can learn riding techniques, getting familiar with your and your bikes limits. Cause how i see you could easily be a good rider just you dont move your body enough. And positioning your body could help a lot in corners, and it can encrase your corner speeds too.
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This is body positioning explained.
Theirs many pros and moto gp rider's on TH-cam that have explained that you want your spine parallel to chasis not a v shape. Life at lean and moto jitsu explain why body position made a big difference in your riding.
@@gohardorhomefz1 which we are all surprised by.
Superbikes on roads like this is bound to happen I don't t care how good you are ... Oil gravel animals... at those speeds take it to the track ...
Wish I could, Closest one is nearly 5 hours away.
I drive 7 hr to track 10 times per summer. And 2-3 times to a further track 9 hrs away. This is such a stupid excuse…
agree - it's pure Russian roulette on an unprepared and inspected road.
5hr drive will sound really good when he is unwrapping his bike from tree (god forbid)
@@dmitrybatishchev2867 Well I don't drive like a fucking animal either. Been riding for 25 years. So far so good thank you for your concern!
So many mid corner adjustments makes my eyes and soul hurt, my track instructor would batter me with a swing arm whenever i did that. Pick a line stick to it
Love that my helmet is just on the trash can 😅
I never ride that hard on public road. You can have fun with less miles and be more safe... Otherwise, you go to a track! He was really lucky for not crushing on a tree or rock...
Total grip lose ... lots of factors to include rear rebound, target fixation , not enough engine breaking. I still thinks he a good rider but paved patch roads require lots of runs to memorize pavement.. R1 1st gear wakes up 10rpm.. then bang 2nd then oh shit corner.. I bet he glanced at speedo. = too late
Lean instead of braking. But I know fear is something we cannot control in a second.. Look far away ahead ..he had a lot of time to read better that curve. But ok. What you can do is trial braking... step on the rear brake gently, and lean lean lean..One experience that finished good this time. Keep practicing, keep looking ahead more further and most important if you see that someone speed in front of you is not matching your skills, just let the ego down and enjoy the ride. Cheers
Came through right after that and seen you guys posted up. Had the fz09 chasing a couple of fast motards
1st gear gear is just slowing him down too much to keep up. Smooth crash though. Hope is ok!
He was riding good I dont know what made him freeze up I think the rut in road there threw his turn off and he kinda panicked and froze up then it was to late ... wristy can do a compilation of riders that crashed he single handedly can account for about 100 motorcycles destroyed 🤔😆
"... the rut in road there..." Yes, I noticed that too and I think it made the front tire loose some grip and therefore he could hardly use the front brake to trail brake.
Yes, because people are not that smart, and then they go for a ride with him, one thing is that Wristy makes sketchy moves on the road from time to time (many of his accidents are his fault) and then the second thing people try to keep up with him with a small knowledge about the road, and it ends like This... Max Wrist would be probably the last person i would go on a ride with
From my canyon runs I always stick to inside, inside yellow lane never cross double yellow even when I ran against much better bikes on my oil tanker 06 10r. I think to make up lost ground he took double yellow, which he wasn't use to recovering the lines on brakes, I never practiced all double yellow, so I didn't have it refined and avoided doing it because speed lines especially on entry changes. If it isn't practiced and refined wouldn't do it. That was the mistake. Also running behind someone concentrating on your own craft is another thing instead of trying to match especially if the person is slightly faster. Anyway he reduced speed well and binned it safest possible. Our road has raveens with large redwood trees nothing like this, I've gone down hitting trees and made it due to great gear. Luckily he slowed down and was a perfect ditch to lay it
Until you are familiar with a bike getting out of shape under you it's hard not to lock up and go rigid when it lets go a bit or does something unexpected.. when you do that you tend to just go straight on. Unfortunately on a road it's pretty hard to practice that scenario. Physical limits are hard things to explore.. it's why they are called limits and you often only learn by hitting them. On a road that usually means stuffing yourself into something
@@jimstartup2729 people that are panicky under pressure yes definitely
Looks like his rear tire came off the road when he crossed the mustard.
(Sees lap timer running on r1)
OH brother..
I wonder if he did that so there's no speedo showing on the video in case he gets pulled over?
@@MultiFridgeRaider Speedo is there too on the screen. He probably just tracks his time for the full runs
Check that man’s front tire he seem to have a couple of washouts before he went down
He probably target fixated or was trying to slow down so much he was afraid to lean and loose traction. It looked like he slowed to about 55-60; some good trail braking and counter steer would have probably saved him
What recording equipment is installed on the Yamaha R1? How is it captured so well without a distorted image in the corners and without rattling and shaking?
Glad he's ok - lucky it wasn't a left hander as that slope and the trees would take no prisoners!
Find that kid that gapped you last year the R6! No street cred on that 1k if you can’t at least keep up with him. Stay safe! There are Savages up there on the Dragon who do not get beat, it is their turf and you can tell when you ride there and none of them ride 1000’s it’s crazy!
I don't think there's any situation where front brake beyond the start of the corner is going to tighten your turn angle. No matter how fast your entry speed is, you're always better off getting off that brake and attempting the corner if getting round it is the primary concern.
Speed = radius, one of the basic principles of riding fast. If you have enough grip and you're trail braking properly, more brake will always tighten your turn. Use the brakes until you're happy with your speed AND direction.
Max make some keychains that say
“Can’t Wrist? Stay on the Porch!”
“Can’t ride the Tail, Stay on the Porch!”
Always killing the Game!!..🏁💀🏁
When he started crossing the double yellow is when he went above his comfort zone
When you’re trying lean more than you’re trying to ride 🤦🏼♂️🤡
Aprilia rider at the beginning was super smooth
I have done the tail of the dragon. I have been named the Townsend flash in 2007-8 . I got a gun pulled on my in Townsend and pulled over on the dragon with my 2007 CBR 1000. A 600cc bike can kill all on the dragon because 3rd gear is max!
Btw. The gun was pulled by local police!
Awesome ride!
I think he may have been braking fairly hard as he passed over the painted yellow lines & when the tires hit pavement again it grabbed traction causing it to wobble like that...
Even the painted lines alone can cause a wobble. I think you have the right idea, the lines caused the wobble and threw the bike off line.
His riding posture was very good but his choice of line made me worry in the beginning. My Golden rule is to always stay in my lane, helmet will never even get close to the middle line. He messed up because he took a corner straight therefore coming in too hot, and because he was riding in 1st the entire time he was used to the engine braking In first gear, so he also didnt expect to brake that hard…
Looks like target fixation to me... He could make if he committed to turn the bike
🤣🤣quit it with the armchair expert shit if you don't know what you're talking about
Came in too hot, missed his brake marker, nobody could take that corner at that speed, this road is tricky as hail, he was still at 60 on impact.
The big problem was rather that he was so scared and did not dare to put the motorcycle into the curve. You can hear the blocking and the light blow in the handlebars, after this he should have given immediately countersteer with which then the motorcycle would have put in the curve.
But yes, easier said than done - with us here in Switzerland in the mountains he would now be dead.
The R1 was forever correctly his line through corners. He got this one extra wrong with his acceleration just prior. He braked, the bike wobbled, he panicked lifted the bike straight, froze and into the bank he went. But for the grace of God, there go I.
Look, it happens to the best of us and I don’t want to just throw shade. It was poor poise and positioning and being outside your “safe” road abilities Bike was riding the rider at the end and this lacked flow and gentle throttle control. Smooth is fast and fast is sexy!
There will be many better riders than me here but I want to offer my experience - be light and almost delicate on the bars, really be relaxed and well seated for this type of riding (you’re not on track) and work into body positioning, knees down etc as your flow and smoothness improves.
Although it looks mad and aggressive, I most enjoy riding and am fastest and have the least drama on the road when I am gentle on the bars and fluid. Enjoy the ride, there is no destination!
Gas consumption must be so high riding on 1st gear all the time
Gonna be on Dan the Fireman!
watched the clip a few times now just before the drop. his friend in front has certainly picked the line through the curve and the follower hasn't got the line up correct , there is a dip in the road but it looks like he was off track before the dip. always always always ride at your speed not friends ! and never ever ever follow......be yourself be safe .
Decided to watch this video as I’m about to fall asleep in bed for the night. Now I have vertigo and I feel nauseous.
some nice lines from first rider.
Hard breaks at that speed & trying to initiate tip in....bet the ABS set off, lost focus due to unanticipated break pressure minimization and stood the bike up...right into classic target fixation. Hope he's ok.
Must be fun to ride in 1st gear the whole time
Appeared to me that he went in nose heavy and hit a patch in the road close to his line and got and his bike got upset. The lead rider cornered outside of it. Just one of those things we carry insurance for. Definitely not lack of experience.
Looked like a typical rear-brake and straighten-up crash. In this case it was actually the right boot doing the panic braking. Picked a nice soft landing spot though.
My mate did the same thing, came in too hot and rather than lean it in he backed off stood the bike up and rode into the railing…nut up and lean in!
Being in such a low gear low rpm makes the bike extremely lazy and difficult to turn. Better off on a 600. Would be much faster on that road
As soon as the gap increased and he hit 3rd gear, the inevitable occurred. Another Maxwrist u-turn to find a downed rider.
The dude behind the R1 is crazy. I'd have backed way off him after that first sketchy curve wobble.
His rear slipt abit and then he started to break and maybe even looking at the ground or straight ahead instead of looking where he needed to go.... he should have dived into the turn
Still cant get how they ride on that road so confident
Perhaps a better rider than I, but still lacking experience on the Dragon and perhaps on the 200+ HP R1, his biggest mistake was taking it out of 1st Gear.
It was a slow crash and the vegetation helped, take care guys!
Leaned too hard into the last bend, overcompensated and panicked.
You can't expect the R1 rider to be as sharp as the S1RR rider, he is not familiar with the road
Damn come on Maxy don’t left the hairpins scare you lol 😂
Beautiful bikes beautiful view
He is way too focused on trying to drag a knee than riding a good clean line consistently by having the correct lean angle for each specific curve & the speed at which he is taking each curve. You don't always want to be hanging off the bike on every single curve, especially the smooth gradual curves taken at speeds under 45-50 (ish) mph. Hopefully that makes sense & isn't too confusing, lol.
Trust the rider is OK. Looks pretty clear to me that a patchy road surface was the main cause of this incident with riders line and speed sealing the deal...
I see Saturday it has a chance to rain but are you going to be out Sunday? I was thinking coming up that way.
Super Nice Video and glad the Rider is Ok 👌🏼 I’ve learned a lot from the video and the comments. This must be the BEST public road ridden by bikers on the tube! Where is this? 👊🏼
That wasn’t that bad of riding. Dude was doing ok and seemed to get fatigued then target fixation on that corner.
he had that by far little panic for sure it happens bro
there is a jump right before the turn. Its clearer from the second angle.
What a fun toy; where one mistake can you leave without your legs. I love motorcycles. Ive owned them. But quiet honestly, most everyone I know that has had a bike, has crashed can caused an injury that is for life.
His problems all started when he pulled out of the lot with max 🤦♂️