Oh and the part where the T-1000 grabs the railing and his hand turn into black and yellow stripes shows that all the damage it's taken is causing the machine to become defective
I'm glad that Arnold's terminator being a protector wasn't spoiled for you, Tara. He was in the American Film Institute's 50 Greatest Movie Villains list for the previous movie, and in their 50 Greatest Movie Heroes list for this one.
21:36 The mirror shot was an old-school low-tech effect, no CG involved. *It's not a mirror, it's a window* into *another room* that's the *same set in reverse.* Real Arnold is sitting on the "reflection" side looking at us and we're looking at Linda opening up the back of a puppet Arnold head. Linda's *twin sister* is Linda's "reflection" behind Arnold. The scene wasn't in the release version of the movie and is only in the extended cut so not every reactor even sees it.
isnt she also the one swinging the baby in the playground and in the factory - and the security guard at the hospital and his twin brother. They made use of twins cause it was cheaper and "easier" than CGI (remmeber this was in 1991 or so CGI were not all that great yet)- and to not make your eyes and brain "used" to the cgi - a mix of practical and computer generated effects and models makes your brain less likley to get used to the effect as it switches up. I belive they used the same idea in Jurasic park (the rapotrs in the kitchen i belive were real "actors" in heavy duty prostetics and make up in some scenes)
Uncle Bob did everything he could to clean up the mess the humans had created. Now it's up to the humans to govern themselves. Another Great reaction. Be well. 😄
Back to the Future time travel rules do not apply in the Terminator universe. Kyle explained in the first movie that he comes from a possible future. So when an event changes in the past, the timeline branches creating alternate timelines. The chip from the original Terminator is what's called a bootstrap paradox. A causal loop is a theoretical proposition, wherein by means of either retrocausality or time travel, an event (an action, information, object, or person) is among the causes of another event, which is in turn among the causes of the first-mentioned event. A hypothetical example of a causality loop is given of a billiard ball striking its past self: the billiard ball moves in a path towards a time machine, and the future self of the billiard ball emerges from the time machine before its past self enters it, giving its past self a glancing blow, altering the past ball's path and causing it to enter the time machine at an angle that would cause its future self to strike its past self the very glancing blow that altered its path. In this sequence of events, the change in the ball's path is its own cause, which might appear paradoxical.
@@peterlenham3180 It is a BUNCH of divergent timelines 1 - It starts with the family being middling, father still bullied, etc 2 - It changed to him being a published author and having money for the nice truck, etc 3 - It then changed to Biff being rich 2,4 - Then back again to the second, not the first timeline There is a divergence from the timeline where Marty races and ends his music by breaks his hand in the car accident, his kids being arrested and Marty getting fired The new timeline is formed after Marty doesn't race ETC The whole POINT is the franchise follows the Cause and Effect time travel rules. The future can be changed an unlimited amount of times. Paradoxes cause erasure, etc
@@ChibiHoshiDragon Could Marty having his girlfriend look different be explained by variants in the timelines? I know she's the same actress at the end of the original, but shes then played by Elizabeth Shue in 2 and 3.
...In 30+ years I have never once considered that arm. Holy shit. I love movies where you can watch them hundreds of times and still pick up new details or realise new things about the plot.
he was also the stunt pilot in First Blood, when Rambo throws the rock, breaks the windshield which results in Galt falling out and onto the rocks below.
21:30 I really love this extra "reset the switch" Special Edition scene! It's really cool to watch in and of itself, and also adds some interesting tension between John and Sarah.
So great to see reactors who have never heard about the twist of Arnie's Terminator being the good guy in this one. It's a genuinely incredible twist, but back in '92 the marketing department decided to give it away in the trailers. Only now, 30+ years later, do we get to see people come to this movie with no clue. Great reaction!
Yay thanks!!! It’s crazy to think they revealed that to people!!! It unfolded so well in the movie, it had my questioning why the “good” guy was so creepy and worried when I thought Arnold had been to the house first… and slowly realizing there were two terminators.. so good!!
One of the greatest sequels ever made very classic Terminator 2: Judgment Day directed by James Cameron starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, Linda Hamilton, Robert Patrick and Edward Furlong. The music video of the film is the song "You Could Be Mine" single by Guns N' Roses. Thank you Tara great reaction excellent "Hasta la vista, Baby"😎👍👍
Regarding the importance of the previous terminator's CPU, its recovery provides a technological head start. Judgement Day might or might not take place later, otherwise.
Most people stop after T2 and thats understandable. The first two are for sure the best of the bunch. That said I think there is merit in seeing them all. Personally, I wouldn't call any of them *bad* but there is definitely a hirearchy.
I thought 3 was good. . . . Like something to watch when you're bored and there's nothing else to do. Not really something to get excited about, lol. But it's NOT bad, just not near as good as the first two.
If you've watched James Cameron's Aliens, then you should have recognized 3 actors in the first Terminator that were in Aliens. The white police detective played Bishop in Aliens. The synthetic droid. Bill Paxton played the spiked blue-haired punk at the beginning of The Terminator. He also played Colonial Marine Hudson in Aliens. Last but not least, Sarah Connor's protector was Kyle Reese, played by Michael Biehn. Michael Biehn played opposite Sigourney Weaver as Ellen Ripley in Aliens as Corporal Hicks. He helped Ripley find Newt (the little girl) and taught Ripley how to use a Colonial Marine weapon. -OG
It's surprising how much of this movie was practical. From the helicopter under the bridge, to the T-1000 (A lot of it was a Robert Patrick wrapped in tin foil and sprayed silver) and prosthetics and puppetry.... and the entire start sequence was practical using miniatures, and in-camera projectors on a backscreen. The only CGI, is when you actually see the transforming of the T-1000.
39:42 The T-1000 didn't just "call out to John", because - until he skewers Sarah and gets her to say "Fuck You!" - he doesn't actually know what Sarah _sounds_ like to imitate her. (If you pay attention - or rewatch the film a jillion times :) - you'll notice the T-1000 doesn't imitate someone's voice until _after_ he hears how the person speaks.)
Incorrect. James Cameron did not make Alien (originally called "Starbeast"). It was originally Ronald Shusett and the screenplay was by Dan O'Bannon which Sir Ridley Scott took over from Robert Altman, who left very early in production due to creative differences. Though it was Sir Scott that eventually brought in H.R. Geiger to create the Alien. This is the end of the Terminator series. Don't hurt yourself with any of the others. As you go on, you will begin to realize that you can never get that time back. Time you could have spent watching something better for your channel.
Here are some "After Viewing" thoughts. . . First, "Props" to You for watching the Special Edition...this movie is even better with all of those extra scenes put back in; it adds more "context" to certain moments which just seem "so random" without knowing. Also, James Cameron is Not the only thing that this movie and "Aliens" have in common: John's Foster Mom was played by Jeanette Goldstein, who'd also played "Vasquez" (one of those soldiers) in Aliens!! Another Fun Fact is that Linda Hamilton had a Twin-Sister (who recently passed away IRL). That was NO optical illusion in this movie, those literally were "Twin" Sarah Connors, in like 3 scenes...one of which was Reprogramming the Terminator: Linda's Twin was playing Sarah's "Reflection in the Mirror" (there was NO Glass) and they "oppositely matched" each other's movements!! Lastly, if you ever want to watch some Terminators or even more Alien Sequels...well, I for one would welcome it!! There are 4 more Terminators, and I do like the 3rd and the 6th almost as much as these first 2. Terminator 6 (IMO) is quite impressive, both Linda Hamilton & James Cameron did return for that one (He co-Wrote and co-Produced it)! Oh, and before I forget, I think that Word you were searching for in Your Outro was "Formidable!" 😉 You're Welcome. . .
Don't forget the other scene where there is no optical effects. The hospital guard and the T-1000 imitating as the hospital guard were also played twins Dan and Don Stanton. "Must be my lucky day"
Regarding the T-1000 being fast,the actor actually ran track in high school and they had problems where he would out run John's motorcycle. He worked hard to be able to run without breathing heavy to be more like a machine
Tis true. Robert Patrick was an insanely fast runner. And still was, for a time anyway - A decade later when he was on The X-Files there's spots you can tell he had to hold back on his run speed or else he'd have caught up to some guys and ended episodes a bit early, heh.
Greate reaction. You picked up on things that many other reactors did not; "his flesh is not flesh anymore". Almost no one gets that. Picking an extended version is great the "ultimate" ruins the sequels. Ties in so many things. If you ever rewatch the theatrical version, you'll see and feel those missing pieces.
19:57 when they reverse over the edge of the garden, if you slow it down, you can clearly see the stunt drivers head sticking through the parcel shelf in the back window.
Robert Patrick trained so hard for this role as the T-1000. Learning to run full speed only breathing through his nose, and he was fast enough a sprinter that he actually caught the dirt bike in the mall parking garage. He was so amazingly intimidating in this movie. When the orderly licks Sarah in the hospital, that was apparently one of the catatonia tests done by unethical or sadistic orderlies according to an old friend of mine who had worked in a few psych hospitals, mainly in California, back in the late 70s and early 80s. It wasn't unusual for patients to try to get an advantage by pretending to be catatonic, hoping that the staff would think that they were out of it and not pay much attention so they could try to escape or whatever. Licking someone's face was a mild way of testing, according to my friend. The more standard way of testing among the more brutal orderlies was what was called a cup check, basically hitting the person in the crotch as hard as they could with a broomstick or something like that (the tonfa, shown in the movie, or a billyclub, wasn't standard when he was working in the field, so the evil jerks had to use other items like broomsticks). If they didn't react then they were catatonic. And, sometimes, the catatonic patients needed to be taken to the hospital due to the damage inflicted by whatever the orderly did causing ruptures or internal damage. Apparently one patient lost his testicles as it was several days before it was realized how badly he had been hurt. And, of course, no one ever knew how it happened. “He musta fallen, or done it to himself to try to get out of here.” My friend never missed that job. He told me that some people did things worse than that, but those stories don't need repeating. There are two sets of twins in this movie. One set are the brothers who played the security guard at Pescadero and the T-1000 imitating him. The other set are Linda Hamilton and her twin sister Lesley who played the other Sarah in the sequences like the nightmare where there are two of her are in the same scene. Lesley, a nurse in real life, passed away a few years ago. I remember learning that Cameron got a letter from a group of scientists congratulating him for the most realistic depiction of a nuclear detonation in a city in Sarah's nightmare. This horrified him since he was just trying to create the most over the top terrifying image he could, only to discover that it was accurate. Luckily, Sarah stepped back from Terminator mode before killing Dyson, which is good. Though killing Dyson wouldn't have changed much of anything. Cyberdyne still would have had the parts, all his notes, and everything they needed to complete the project. Judgment Day would have come anyway. The excellent Joe Morrow, who played Dyson, had an accident that punctured a lung when he was younger, so he knew firsthand how Dyson should be breathing/gasping at the end. The extended edition had two advantages over the standard edition. Though it wasn't obvious in its performance, the continuous damage the T-1000 was taking was affecting it. It is most obvious at the scene in the smelting plant after being shattered when, as we saw, its feet tended to take on the aspect of the flooring and when it grabbed a railing its hand stuck and mimicked the paint job on the railing. The other extended edition ending is also superior for one more reason: it ends with older Sarah sitting on a playground bench and watching her adult son playing with her granddaughter, meaning that this Terminator movie is absolutely the end of the franchise, and all the movies that steal the name of the series after this are just lame cash grabs and can and should be avoided like the plague, in my opinion.
@@jean-paulaudette9246 That is one way of viewing it, true, especially in the case of Sarah Connor, but it isn't always true. I remember the one story I was told where the inmate who was able to take advantage of an employee's inattention to briefly escape confinement through pretending catatonia used the hour or so to . . . I'll just say they used the time to force their will upon others in the institution who couldn't resist. The victims were medically treated at the hospital, the scandal was hushed up, the employee was fired, the supervisor was reprimanded and almost fired, and every employee was ordered to be on heightened watch for such pretense in the future.
The actor who played Dyson is Joe Morton. Not Morrow. Minor mistake but still. I agree that death scene was very good, one of the best I've seen in cinema. Also agree about the extra portions with the T-1000, the only extra parts of the special edition I liked. His glitches and also him 'feeling' around in John's room. Even then they are still pretty optional and aren't necessary for the film. Most of the rest of the scenes are a step down for me. Including most of all that alternate ending which I disagree with you about - Was just too surreal and corny. And if the rest of the movie wasn't a definitive enough 'end' then that scene wouldn't have helped - They'd have cash-grabbed on this franchise anyway, somewhat thanks to having a ready made excuse of it involving time travel and alternate timelines. Having said that I do wish that if they were gonna carry on they at least went straight to just dealing with the future war, and more as we saw it and as it was progressing narratively. Alas only thing we've gotten in more than 30 years that even hit that note was the game Terminator: Resistance. Salvation felt around that but stopped rather short and was a poor execution in any event.
@@stang5755 Gah! Thanks for the catch on Joe's name. I knew it was the same last name as my old friend Scott, but I knew both a Scott Morton and a Scott Morrow. 😀 Guess I chose the wrong Scott. 😀 But he was amazing in this role. He's such a good actor overall, back to when I first saw him in Crossroads back in the late 80s. I actually agree with you about the playground ending. The only thing I really liked about it was that it definitively stamped DONE on the series. Otherwise it was too much saccharine and her aging makeup looked badly done. The roadway rolling past is far and away the best done ending in my mind. I gave up on anything past Judgment Day when some friends of mine who loved the first two saw the third and were seriously pissed that they had wasted money on it. I learned my lesson about unnecessary sequels after walking out of Alien3 not even half an hour into the movie. 😛 Sadly, I have to agree that I think you're right: the franchise was just too popular to NOT take advantage of for cash grabs and it would have had the same results that Alien and Predator franchises had: trying to milk a dead horse. 😀
Miles Dyson was just trying to do something for good and to help people. Unfortunately history is full of scientists who are trying to do good things and help people, but also people who figure out how to turn those good intentions into weapons.
Should also give credit to Dan O'Bannon, who reworked the concept of Dark Star (which he co-wrote with John Carpenter) from comedy to a horror, but Ridley Scott takes most of the accolades. Cameron switched the genre for the subsequent Alien movies from horror/thriller to a straight up action franchise.
My theory of time travel is that if you travel back in time, your atoms become part of that reality (so the laws of conservation of matter/energy would apply to them going forward) and you can't change the history of those atoms. This means that you would still have existed in the future of the original timeline (your personal past) and your existence in the past (your personal present) would be unaffected even if you were to somehow prevent your future creation/conception in the timeline you currently inhabit (your personal future).
When Sarah said Skynet sent "two Terminators back through time," she was referring to the Arnie model from T1 and the T-1000. Also, Arnie spin-cockin' that modified Winchester levergun might have been an homage to the Western heroes James Cameron's generation grew up with like John Wayne and Chuck Connors. 6:55 Oh! You're watching the Special Edition! 10:40 Guns N' Roses 14:17 Not literally "liquid." More like "polymerized." 24:55 Remember when happenstance saved Sarah at Tech Noir when she knocked something off her table in T1? 26:26 Both John Connor and Skynet are products of a time paradox/causality loop. 37:18 She should have chamber-loaded right there. It's the fastest and best way to get a round ready to go in any type of gun that has a fixed magazine tube. It's really easy to do with a pump-action. That one's a Remington 870 Police Magnum. 39:07 Because he knows he's malfunctioning. 39:34 If she hadn't dropped that one shell, U.N.C.L.E. Bob wouldn't have stolen her frag with his noob tube. 39:42 "It's 40-Miller time!"
Even Back to the Future made some mistakes with timelines. Terminator was a perfect time loop. If Sarah would have hid out in the mountains and waited, it all would have gone the same. When she tries to stop the future she changes it and creates a new timeline. Every movie after this when anyone time travels they would create a new timeline. Movie 5 should have looped back to the first movie again but that's where they messed up the franchise.
The weekend this started, my boss and I had to work on Saturday. We went to work at 4am so we could leave in time for the matinee showing. We made it in time and the theater was completely full.
One interesting thing about this movie is that the original movie got a lot of backlash due to its violent nature. Arnold said in the next movie he would not kill anyone. True to his word his character does not kill a single human in this movie.
Most people expect Arnold to be the good guy when they first watch Terminator. Maybe not back then, when the movie was new, but nowadays he's an established action hero. I think Terminator is the only film in which he ever played a villain.
@@jamesnoneyabizness5611 Oh dear... I did actually forget that one. Well, at least Mr Freeze is just doing it all for a good cause. And I think he came around in that movie? I don't remember it too well, lol, which isn't all that surprising.
@@brei2670 You are _partially_ correct, as, with the support of Billionaire Philanthropist Bruce Wayne, he did agree to return to prison for the remainder of his sentence, so long as he was both allowed to continue his research into curing his wife's affliction... and have a "conversation" with Poison Ivy.
And the mother telling the children the bed time story in the bunk when Titanic is sinking in "Titanic"...which is, of course, another James Cameron movie.
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Well, everyone has their own opinions of the rest of the movies, but I personally like them all. I'd say that Dark Fate is considered the official third movie by James Cameron. Thus pushing Terminator 3, Salvation, and Genisys into alternate timeline territory. I enjoy all of them in their own way.
T3 isn't horrible, I like it. It's not as good as the first two, but I'd stop there if you want to go an watch it. After that, the timeline gets muddy, retcons happen, and the series becomes a hot mess.
Imagine how different this film would have been if Billy Idol had not had his motorcycle accident, and not been available to play the part of the cop/T-1000. We did get to see him in a similar role, in his music video "Shock to the System". I always thought the video was also funny because of his Bart Simpson style spiky hair, with actual metal spikes under it.
3:04 Well, they're made to look like humans cause they're an infiltrartion unit. And generally, the frame of human skeleton is most versatile, so that's why you'd want to base your killer drones on it. 4:10 Well, didn't quite create Aliens, he made the sequel. Did a lot of work in terms of character development, but I wouldn't say he created it, especially not the creature designs themselves. 26:49 This is what you call a time paradox. Skynet sends a terminator to the past, the terminator is used to create Skynet. Skynet basically built itself. 28:09 The chip is the thing that kicked off all research, so any terminator would start disappearing once you've gotten rid of those.
Terminator III and Terminator Salvation are not as good as the first two, but are worth watching if you want to see how John's arc ends. I wouldn't watch anything past that as they're all soft reboots that muddle the timeline alot.
You watched the director's cut. I am really unsure why they did not show this version in the theaters, because it has so much more to help the story progress and answer many questions that the audience has.
First, the beating in the hospital room was just unnecessarily excessive, and Kyle's appearance and dialogue were corny. Then, the scene where Sarah goes to smash the chip and John scolds her is just really bad writing and acting. Cameron both realized and admitted this, and he took it out for the theatrical version. Wise choice. I never understand why anyone would prefer the extended version? The extra scenes added do nothing to develop any character more than the rest of the film does naturally. If anything, the bad acting in those scenes hurts the whole product.
@@CoryGasaway I agree with all your points. I have never seen a James Cameron film where his cuts weren't necessary. He is really disciplined in removing what doesn't make the overall movie work better.
@@CoryGasaway I agree with you. While it was nice to see Biehn again it was corny as fuck. And seeing a scene with a now toughed-up Sarah to next just get beaten down and abused is real jarring and counter-intuitive. Most of the other scenes/sequences are indeed just extra re-hashing info we already know or could've deduced, and/or are poorly done with crummy writing and/or acting. We didn't need to see Miles explain the 'pros' of what he's trying to do with the eventual SkyNet tech. We don't need to see the T-1000 actually steal another cop car (which actually has a different lightbar than one it is seen with later making it a continuity error) or kill the dog to see it wasn't named Woofie (which was wholly unnecessary and entirely negatively gratuitous). We don't need to see the cut to the T-1000's glitched feet to have John realize it wasn't the real Sarah (if anything that makes him come off extra dumb and extra lacking in instinct). The changing of the CPU does explain why Termy gets honestly kinda sappy for the rest of the movie but again to show it screams its a 'for dummies' kinda deal. It is nice to showcase some cool technical work though - Namely being able to use Sarah and her twin and Arnold and a Winston prop all together in a shot. But it's not required. And right after though with Sarah and John.. yeah that was just bad. The alternate ending is probably the poorest 'addition' as it was just absolutely corny and cloying and downright surreal. And it doesn't 'cement' anything - wouldn't have to studios who would've found a way to try to keep milking that horse, especially since they had a ready-made excuse with the movies dealing with time travel and alternate timelines. Anyway I think closing with the 'black highway' with Sarah's 'unknown future' monologue works far better from a narrative standpoint. Indeed after seeing all the versions, aside from some very little things - changes in cut/etc here and there - the only things I liked were some extra parts showcasing the T-1000. People thought it weird and creepy with it 'feeling' around in John's room but with cutting to Termy explaining it samples things by physical contact it makes perfect sense. I always found it neat and underrated and think it was an aspect they could've played with a bit more. That said, the movie does just fine without it. Same with showing the T-1000's glitching at the end, sans what I said above about the feet when it's imitating Sarah. I like it because it shows that the thing *can* be damaged, and lets us have some hope for our protagonists - Parallels with the first film how we steadily see the original Terminator get steadily damaged. *But* at the same time it can be argued it's more harrowing without it because it just reinforces the nigh-on invincibility of the T-1000 right up til suddenly he is destroyed. Again it works either way.
How'd Dyson get the chip? It's a stable time loop, he gets the chip from, basically, himself. But you're wondering how that even started in the first place? It's possible that the first time around that the war happens much later in the future when technology was super advanced, and a terminator is sent back in time for similar reasons and is defeated, and people learn to make the chip much more rapidly as a result, and it led to a stable self-feeding time loop.
If you look at the Deleted Scenes for "The Terminator" (the first movie), there is an extension to the scene where Sarah is loaded into the ambulance (at the end). An exterior shot shows the ambulance driving away, and then reveals that the "computer factory" she'd been found inside of was actually Cyberdyne...or what it was in '84, before it became an even bigger Corporation by this movie! So, basically...it was Cyberdyne themselves who'd discovered the Terminator's crushed remains / confiscated them / and were working to reverse-engineer it!
I think her question was how did the chip come into existence in the first place for it to have been sent back for reverse-engineering. Perhaps Cyberdyne developed something independently on its own, it got sent back and inspired themselves and then forever repeat
@@jlinkous05 According to Theoretical Physics of Time Travel, the answer lies in what is known as a "Time Loop." It is a sequence of pre-determined / pre-established events which (one way or another) must always be completed / repeated in order for the preservation of time! In this case, the Loop begins with how the previous film ends, and that aftermath leads into this second movie. By "reverse-engineering" the remains of the first Terminator, Dyson was inspired to create something that he himself would eventually create... but should not exist today (in his present time) because he's not even created it yet. I know, it's complicated. . .
oh thank god you watched the one with the right ending. you never know with the extended versions. theres a 'deleted ending' that replaces the road sequence in some versions that trys to show this happy future version of sarah and john (a senator now!), it disgusts me.
Awesome reaction Tara! Just so you know, there's an alternate ending that you might want to check out which you should be able to find on TH-cam pretty easily. Test audiences actually hated it so they reshot the last piece and simplified it to just the shot of the road and Sarah's voice over. One interesting bit of trivia is that the woman playing John's foster mother also played Vasquez in Aliens. She's quite the chameleon and she always looks and sounds different in every role. If you watch enough James Cameron films you'll see a lot of other familiar faces as he likes to work with the same people. As far as sequels, they're generally not considered very good. If you're really a fan, the third film is okay but nothing special. The rest are all pretty obvious cash grabs. The first two films tell a complete story and there isn't any need to watch any of the other films unless you really want to.
The Sarah Connor Chronicles tv series is a _significantly_ better continuation of the series, coming out after T3, but retconning it away and taking place shortly after T2.
Another excellent reaction, Tara. You need to see the original 'Terminator' film to fully appreciate this sequel, 'Terminator 2: Judgement Day', there are other films in the Terminator series, these are the best two, the only other one that I would say is worth watching if you did want to react to more is the third, 'Terminator 3: Rise of The Machines'.
@@tomhoffman4330 Thanks, it gets a mixed reception from people, I think that it's quite good, but as yet I've never seen anyone react to it so, I think that it would be a great one for Tara to do.
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@@tomhoffman4330 Thanks for the information, Tom, it's much appreciated, I'd be interested in seeing all the 'Terminator' reactions, but I'm not so keen on the 'Fast and Furious' films, I like some of them bur not all, I'm not ready a 'Petrol Head' (really into cars and racing) as we say here in the U.K. that doesn't mean that I don't like racing/car films but I can get bored of them quickly. I'll check out that channel later tonight, I have to go now as I have an online event to attend. Thanks again.
People with only a modicum of intelligence would have recognised that Arnie didn't kill anyone in the biker bar, and that the T-1000 did kill that policeman. So it was obvious that Arnie was not going to be the villain. Many reactors fail to understand it because they aren't intelligent.
I don’t know if I agree… there have been lots of time I have missed an obvious connection in a movie when watching it for the first time.. sometimes there’s a lot going on and you don’t always pick up on everything the first time through… it doesn’t necessarily mean you aren’t an intelligent person… just my opinion :)
It's very good that you watched the extended director's version (2h.36min and 8 sec), because there are many very important and interesting moments here) I don't like it when people watch the rental version of the film for the first time, they miss a lot.
If you look carefully during the steel mill fight, you can see the T1000 was starting to malfunction from all the damage it had taken. So there is a way to kill it eventually if you hit it long enough. And for the love of all that is good in the world, please don't watch anymore Terminator movies. There are none after T2 for all practical purposes.
@@toughy9450 It can be interpreted in a number of ways, certainly. However, in good storytelling (which is a dead art these days) the antagonist (and Hero) must have some vulnerability that can be exploited otherwise you end up with a plot problem and a Mary Sue. Sure, the T1000 can be vulnerable to high temperatures, that works. It can also receive cumulative damages that eventually cause various system failures-it is a machine after all. It all works, and it's all fan theory anyway.
I always figured that was the damage from being frozen, busted to pieces, and coming back together. It hasn't yet, and may never, fully recovered from that.
@@toughy9450 that doesn't explain why its feet turned into the metal grating pattern when Real Sarah shot him from behind. The accumulated damage -- multiple gun shots, rolling along the road after getting its hand shot off, ramming a semi truck into an overpass, getting frozen and re melted -- made him start to glitch, like when he turns away from Arnold's arm getting caught in the machinery and the silvery color goes up his body and over his face.
Oh no. Wish someone told you to watch the cinematic version of this masterpiece. The longer version added some really bad and goofy scenes that ruin the tone of this movie. Also the ending scene is really weird.
One of the things I love about watching reactions to this movie is that NONE of the reactors has ever noticed (or if they did notice, they didn't mention it) that this movie is the exact same story outline as the original. From the terminator and protector riding the lightning from the future to both of them searching for the person, they are planning to kill/rescue, through a couple violent shootouts to a freeway chase in semi-trucks to a finale in the warehouse. Same movie both times with the second being better -- I guess practice makes perfect. :-)
When you make up a story about time travel, there are no rules except that it must be internally consistent. It doesn't matter what some other author' rules are, you can make up your own. In BTTF changing the past has big effects on the future. In another universe, the effects from changes to the past die out over time until the future is restored to its original form, in still another it is impossible to change the past no matter how hard you try. For a real mind bender watch "Predestination." Or read the short story it's based on "All You Zombies" by Robert Heinlein.
Such an outstanding character growth arc for Sarah Connor. Her PTSD drove her so hard. In her effort to save humanity she was losing her own humanity and almost became a Terminator herself. Linda Hamilton played her brilliantly.
@@TaraTunesIn I really like that Sarah was losing her humanity, only to have her son John Connor (trained by her to be the future savior of humanity) to be the one who is saving her humanity. Beautiful story context here, beautifully presented. The 'wanna-be writer' in me is geeking out over this!
I would say stop at these two movies, but Terminator: Salvation is a pretty solid movie. It takes place in the future war setting, and doesn't interfere with the continuity of the first two films very much, unlike the other sequels.
Cameron wanted the Arnie's terminator in the first film to be the T-1000, he couldn't do it as the tech wasn't there yet. T2 was supposed to come out in like 87, but the tech still wasn't good enough. He made the Abyss (1989) to test the CGI and see if it would work, if you watch that movie the creature is water based and moves like the T1000's metal. He made that movie just as a testbed, lol found out it works and this comes out two years later. The T1000 does get hurt with every piece of damage it takes. The bullets are doing damage it just takes thousands of bullets of course depending on the size. The CPU is in every part of his body so every time he is hurt the CPU takes on some damage, it;s why it was malfunctioning at the end. The arnie in this movie was going to kill John in the future, they caught it to reprogram it.
Terminator 2 was trying to tell people that artificial intelligence was coming....it came out like in 1989.... Now in 2023: artificial intelligence is here. Most movies have subliminal messages
These were the best 2. Many will recommend stopping here. Not me. I recommend watching them all... except maybe Genisys, they are not as good but they all have their good bits. Watch them with lower expectations and... they aren't THAT bad.
The rest of the terminator movies, not as good. But the Spin-off TV series Sarah Connor Chronicles was very, very good. Different actors, but you forget quickly.
1. Linda Hamilton must have been getting "Ah-nold time" to get ripped like that 😍🥰 2. My guess is that stove is hot🧐 3. John's childhood friend looks like the older version of the kid, but isn't, that played Tom Hanks' younger self's buddy in BIG.😎 4. Arnold did many of his own stunts in this movie, including riding the motorcycle. At one point he was injured, and they had to stop production for a couple of weeks so he could recover. 5. Arnold is not left-handed, but the way he works that shotgun is impressive😱
New to your channel, love your honest reactions to the twists in this. Great to see young people watching these classics with no spoilers. I definitely recommend They Live (1988) and Dark City (1998), both have great stories and mind-blowing reveals.
With the caveat that for some reason I REALLY dislike Jason Clarke's face, you can enjoy the rest of the franchise, I believe. I did. Terminator 3, which does continue the story from T2 and stars Claire Danes and Arnold Schwarzenegger, with a hilarious cameo from the psychiatrist, introduces another prototype that has different abilities than the one in T2. It's not as good as the first two films, but I do like it. Terminator: Salvation, starring Christian Bale (The Dark Knight), Sam Worthington (Avatar), Bryce Dallas Howard (Jurassic World), Anton Yelchin (Star Trek), and Helena Bonham Carter (several Tim Burton films), comes next, has great effects, an original plot, and a big twist, so I do recommend it - and it continues the story from Terminator 3, which it is better than. Terminator: Genisys stars Emilia Clarke (Game of Thrones), Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Jason Clarke. I don't like Mr. Clarke at all, but love Ms. Clarke, and Arnold is great in it, so please consider it. It spins off a new timeline just as Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles did on TV. Finally, Terminator: Dark Fate reunites Linda Hamilton and Arnold Schwarzenegger, and also stars Mackenzie Davis. I really hated an early plot twist but liked the movie overall because of the three stars and the character development of Sarah Connor and the terminator. It spins off a new timeline directly following Terminator 2, and for that is unconnected to Genisys, Salvation, or T3.
Cameron's films are a good timeline of the development of special effects: "The Terminator" (1984) "Aliens" (1986) "The Abyss" (1989) first use of CGI in ANY movie "Terminator 2" (1991) first CGI charater, first use of morphing "True Lies" (1994) skillful mix of new CG and traditional practical, miniature, and optical matte effects.
CGI has been used in movies since original Westworld (1971). It was mostly used to represent in-universe graphic displays like radar, targeting systems, robot vision, panel readouts, etc. The Death Star plans in the locker room scene in original, pre-special edition 1977 Star Wars was CG. The first 3D CG vehicles and props were in "Tron" 1981, the first 3d CG animated character was the glass knight in "Young Sherlock Holmes" 1985, and the first 2d morphing FX were in "Willow" 1988. The Abyss water tentacle was the first 3d morphing character, T2 just took it to new levels.
@@chrisleebowers The death star plans were rotoscoped and composited manually, as were the blaster fire, and the energy weapons in the futurewar scenes in both T1 and T2. When people say CGI, they do not mean replacing the image on a in-frame screen, they mean adding an object or physical effect (fire, explosion, lasers, etc) that were not on the set.
@@jhilal2385 ??? No, that's wrong. The Death Star plans were *vector graphics CG output from the graphics dept of UIC.* The lasers in Star Wars and Terminator were hand animated and rotoscoped by *cartoon animators using pencil and paper.* Color and glow was added in the dark room exposure process. When people say CGI they mean *Computer Graphics Imagery.* ANY computer graphics imagery. "they mean adding an object or physical effect (fire, explosion, lasers, etc) that were not on the set" No, that's called VISUAL EFFECTS which for nearly a HUNDRED YEARS was done WITHOUT COMPUTERS. If the Abyss had the "first CGI character" then WTF was 1933 King Kong? Feel free to look up and confirm any of that, just know that when you say "they" you're talking about ME - I'm a VFX artist and CG animator with over 30 years in this business.
@@chrisleebowers But I said CGI in my initial post, not CG. That is Computer Generate Imagery. Now engaging TH-cam's premium "Mute Troll" function. Adieu.
Your reaction preview at the start of your videos is so funny. Please watch Escape from New York, The Last Dragon, the original Fright Night, and Glengarry Glen Ross next. Thanks.
About the time paradoxes: In one branch of quantum theory, every action generates a related, but different time line. The paradoxes don't occur because the new time line follows a different path. It gets totally beyond comprehension when you consider that each person's daily choices set up different multiverses where the butterfly effects can change everything. "Back to the Future" was creating new time lines, not actually returning to the ones that were left. "Man in the High Castle" concluded with "our" time line' Nazis looking to pillage their alternate time lines. So the theory goes. Everything that can happen, DOES happen, somewhere. But maybe 1) Time travel is impossible or 2) We are just avatars of a gamer on a matrix-style computer network
The death of Dyson is tragic. Yeah, he probably should have thought about what his invention was going to be used for, but once he was told what would happen he was 100% in agreement that his life's work needed to be stopped. Ultimately, though, had he survived, he and Sarah would have eventually realized that he needed to die anyway as his mind would have remained the only place where that information was stored. My recommended viewing order for the Terminator series is The Terminator, Terminator 2: Judgement Day, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (tv series), and that's it, just stop there. Two names from the TV series you might know are Lena Headey (Game of Thrones) as Sarah Connor and Summer Glau (Firefly) as a new character. Because it was canceled somewhat unexpectedly when they wanted to make T4 (I'm guessing that's the reason), but, while the ending certainly leaves a lot of story untold, it doesn't do so in a way that ruins what came before. FYI, it's almost always a bad idea to use one movie's rules of time travel in an attempt to understand another's. Because time travel is _entirely_ fictional (just about everything we know about physics suggests it isn't possible) every time travel story will have its own rules. In some instances, like Star Trek, they'll actually use different rules in different episodes (which is lampshaded on at least one occasion when agents from "Temporal Investigations" come to interview the people involved in a time travel incident to determine what kind of time travel was involved).
Actually, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles takes place after T2 starring Lena Headey as Sarah. You would know her from Game of Thrones. The show was pretty good imo and pretty short lived. The other Terminator movies are alright, especially three
In T1 Kyle said he was from "one possible future"; like the future is a branching tree of possibilities. In one of thos possible futures Skynet gets invented from scratch, Sarah's son and Kyle Reese exist. In that future, the first Terminator and Kyle gets sent back in time, and with advanced knowledge both Sarah's raising of John (who in this "second go round" is Kyle's son) and the chip from the first terminator cements that future into place, making it take up almost all the branches of the tree. In T2, the chips get destroyed and Dyson dies, making the branches of the future with Skynet in it much fewer, but still existant. Just look at our advances in AI today; it might not have happened at the date they set in Terminator, but it may still happen some time later.
This is one of my all time favorite movies! Now, some fun/interesting facts. In the opening scene, Arnold was wearing neon blue and green surfer shorts, and they had to keep reshooting because the extras couldn't stop laughing. John's foster mom is the same actress who played Vasquez in Aliens. Linda Hamilton had a twin sister play her in the scenes where they were doubled. In the lab scene, notice that Sarah is wearing a gray trenchcoat similar to Kyle's. In the steel mill, I have two theories why the liquid terminator was acting strangely. A, he was glitching due to being smashed into pieces, or B, the heat was preventing him from fully solidifying.
26:50 The thing you're talking about here is a fundamental paradox of time travel. I've heard the example that if someone goes back in time to the 60s and teaches John Lennon "Strawberry Fields Forever", and then the Beatles record and release it...then nobody actually wrote "Strawberry Fields Forever". It's what's come to be called "The Grandfather Paradox", which is the idea that if you go back in time and kill your grandfather at an early age, then your father would never be born. And if your father isn't born, then neither will you be. And so you can't go back in time to kill your grandfather. And that means your father will be born, etc, etc. It just creates a loop. The reality of time travel is that it probably won't ever happen and can't ever happen because of the nature of reality and cause & effect. And really honestly, that's probably for the best. For the sake of time travel in science fiction, it's best not to think too much about it, because it all just comes crashing down when you really think about it. Just accept it as a story device and not try to find the logic in an illogical thing. The truth is, you think you don't understand how time travel works, but you actually understand it just fine.. The problem is, you're trying too hard to make sense of something that doesn't and can't make sense.
there is a T3-6, T3 is the last 'classic' the they had to make movies while Arnie was 'The Govornator' of Cali, so the rest are kinda weird, 3 isn't as good as 2, but it rounds out the story to it inevitable end. PS- reguarding the T1000 chasing John on the motor bike, they had to do the scene over and over because that bike was a lil 125cc and the actor was So fit for the roll he kept catching John.
In the first "Terminator", Reese tells Sarah that the Terminator is a "Cyberdyne Systems Model 101", and at the end of the movie the sign on the factory that they run into says "Cyberdyne Systems". The story was always intended as a double paradox: John is born because Reese travels through time, and Skynet is built because the Terminator travels through time.
Other Terminator movies after this? What are you talking about? Only 2 Terminator movies have ever been made, and you've watched both. It's a real damn shame no more Terminator movies were ever made. Would certainly have been a multi-decade movie studio tent-pole franchise. *Sigh*
Terminator, like Alien, is a franchise where it's best to stop after watching the second movie. None of the sequels could really match. It's not just that T2 gave the ultimate Terminator as the villain, but the writing of 3 and beyond is just not to the same caliber. It could be blamed on John Cameron leaving the franchise, but he returned for Dark Fate and that was still not received well.
Fun fact - The mirror image of Sarah working on the robot head, was actually Linda Hamilton's twin sister matching her moves to create the mirror effect.
I would dispense with most of the remaining sequels, honestly, in favor of the all-too-brief television series, The Sarah Connor Chronicles. That show was very well done - a worthy follow up to the first and second films. Of course, it did get cancelled at the end of its second season, leaving us with a major unresolved cliffhanger. Sigh.
27:16 An ontological paradox (also called a "bootstrap paradox" or causal loop): Skynet is the cause of its own creation through sending the original Terminator to eliminate Sarah, but simultaneously the cause of its own defeat since by doing so it initiated the events that resulted in John's conception (John sending Kyle back to protect his mother).
My favorite movie of all time. Everything about it is perfect. Terminator 3 isn't bad, but it retreads the same ideas. The Terminator TV show, the Sarah Connor Chronicles, is the other recommended entry into the franchise.
When the movie was released, they didn't keep secret that Arnold was good in the movie. TV commercials gave it away. When Arnold appeared on talk shows, they showed the clip where John tells him he can't kill people an Arnold says "Why".
@@e.d.2096 "I was just in the neighborhood." (LOL) I heard from Tara this morning, she was struggling with copyright delays, so no Premiere today. But she'd promised to try and have this up by tonight, so...I was just waiting around for it. . .
@@e.d.2096 Yeah, I guess last night was just an "off" day and I took it too personally; sorry again for that, btw. But yeah, my folks have been a better mood today.
Oh and the part where the T-1000 grabs the railing and his hand turn into black and yellow stripes shows that all the damage it's taken is causing the machine to become defective
Always thought it was due to the high temps causing it to soften/melt.
Like in the first movie when the terminator had a limp.
I'm glad that Arnold's terminator being a protector wasn't spoiled for you, Tara. He was in the American Film Institute's 50 Greatest Movie Villains list for the previous movie, and in their 50 Greatest Movie Heroes list for this one.
Ha! I'd bet he is the ONLY one who could pull that off in the same franchise. Way to go Arnold!
21:36 The mirror shot was an old-school low-tech effect, no CG involved. *It's not a mirror, it's a window* into *another room* that's the *same set in reverse.* Real Arnold is sitting on the "reflection" side looking at us and we're looking at Linda opening up the back of a puppet Arnold head. Linda's *twin sister* is Linda's "reflection" behind Arnold. The scene wasn't in the release version of the movie and is only in the extended cut so not every reactor even sees it.
isnt she also the one swinging the baby in the playground and in the factory - and the security guard at the hospital and his twin brother. They made use of twins cause it was cheaper and "easier" than CGI (remmeber this was in 1991 or so CGI were not all that great yet)- and to not make your eyes and brain "used" to the cgi - a mix of practical and computer generated effects and models makes your brain less likley to get used to the effect as it switches up. I belive they used the same idea in Jurasic park (the rapotrs in the kitchen i belive were real "actors" in heavy duty prostetics and make up in some scenes)
Uncle Bob did everything he could to clean up the mess the humans had created. Now it's up to the humans to govern themselves. Another Great reaction. Be well. 😄
Back to the Future time travel rules do not apply in the Terminator universe.
Kyle explained in the first movie that he comes from a possible future. So when an event changes in the past, the timeline branches creating alternate timelines.
The chip from the original Terminator is what's called a bootstrap paradox.
A causal loop is a theoretical proposition, wherein by means of either retrocausality or time travel, an event (an action, information, object, or person) is among the causes of another event, which is in turn among the causes of the first-mentioned event.
A hypothetical example of a causality loop is given of a billiard ball striking its past self: the billiard ball moves in a path towards a time machine, and the future self of the billiard ball emerges from the time machine before its past self enters it, giving its past self a glancing blow, altering the past ball's path and causing it to enter the time machine at an angle that would cause its future self to strike its past self the very glancing blow that altered its path. In this sequence of events, the change in the ball's path is its own cause, which might appear paradoxical.
Back to the Future 2 had a divergent timeline when Biff became rich.
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It is a BUNCH of divergent timelines
1 - It starts with the family being middling, father still bullied, etc
2 - It changed to him being a published author and having money for the nice truck, etc
3 - It then changed to Biff being rich
2,4 - Then back again to the second, not the first timeline
There is a divergence from the timeline where Marty races and ends his music by breaks his hand in the car accident, his kids being arrested and Marty getting fired
The new timeline is formed after Marty doesn't race
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The whole POINT is the franchise follows the Cause and Effect time travel rules. The future can be changed an unlimited amount of times. Paradoxes cause erasure, etc
@@ChibiHoshiDragon Could Marty having his girlfriend look different be explained by variants in the timelines? I know she's the same actress at the end of the original, but shes then played by Elizabeth Shue in 2 and 3.
Next stop, PULP FICTION 😅😅😅 !!!!! U’ll never see a better crime-drama !!!!!😮😮😮 1:39
After all of that they still probably left the Terminator's arm in the steel mill. Sarah will never learn.
...In 30+ years I have never once considered that arm. Holy shit. I love movies where you can watch them hundreds of times and still pick up new details or realise new things about the plot.
The stuntman who flew the helicopter under the bridge made the studio get him a large life insurance for this was the close to death stunt you can do.
he was also the stunt pilot in First Blood, when Rambo throws the rock, breaks the windshield which results in Galt falling out and onto the rocks below.
Your intro reaction snippets are cut together perfectly. Those alone are worth watching... 😂
Oh, and congratulations on exactly 5000 followers.
Thank you!!!! It is a really exciting milestone for me!!!
This is NOT the reaction I get when I walk into a bar naked!!!
Well, are YOU built like Arnold?
If not, it's no surprise...
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21:30 I really love this extra "reset the switch" Special Edition scene!
It's really cool to watch in and of itself, and also adds some interesting tension between John and Sarah.
I agree!! I had taken it out in editing, but added it back in because it felt really meaningful :)
I'm proud to say this was the first R rated movie I saw. I cried manly little 6 year old tears when Arnold dies at the end! 😎
Dyson's death scene is so damn good.
Becomes a Hero in a matter of minutes
Completely agree, one of the best ever. That actor is also great in "Speed".
So great to see reactors who have never heard about the twist of Arnie's Terminator being the good guy in this one. It's a genuinely incredible twist, but back in '92 the marketing department decided to give it away in the trailers. Only now, 30+ years later, do we get to see people come to this movie with no clue. Great reaction!
Yay thanks!!! It’s crazy to think they revealed that to people!!! It unfolded so well in the movie, it had my questioning why the “good” guy was so creepy and worried when I thought Arnold had been to the house first… and slowly realizing there were two terminators.. so good!!
One of the greatest sequels ever made very classic Terminator 2: Judgment Day directed by James Cameron starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, Linda Hamilton, Robert Patrick and Edward Furlong. The music video of the film is the song "You Could Be Mine" single by Guns N' Roses. Thank you Tara great reaction excellent "Hasta la vista, Baby"😎👍👍
Regarding the importance of the previous terminator's CPU, its recovery provides a technological head start. Judgement Day might or might not take place later, otherwise.
Most people stop after T2 and thats understandable. The first two are for sure the best of the bunch. That said I think there is merit in seeing them all. Personally, I wouldn't call any of them *bad* but there is definitely a hirearchy.
I thought 3 was good. . . . Like something to watch when you're bored and there's nothing else to do. Not really something to get excited about, lol. But it's NOT bad, just not near as good as the first two.
If you've watched James Cameron's Aliens, then you should have recognized 3 actors in the first Terminator that were in Aliens.
The white police detective played Bishop in Aliens. The synthetic droid. Bill Paxton played the spiked blue-haired punk at the beginning of The Terminator. He also played Colonial Marine Hudson in Aliens.
Last but not least, Sarah Connor's protector was Kyle Reese, played by Michael Biehn. Michael Biehn played opposite Sigourney Weaver as Ellen Ripley in Aliens as Corporal Hicks. He helped Ripley find Newt (the little girl) and taught Ripley how to use a Colonial Marine weapon. -OG
I love the theme as he's lowered into the molten metal
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The alternate power scene is great too. When the theme kicks in i get goosebumps every time.
Its a very RARE occassion where a sequel is just as good or an improvement on the original; T2 was such an epic movie!!
This is a sequel, not a remake...
@@havok6280 ah just noticed my error! Meant sequel 😁👍🏻
You didn't like it?
It's surprising how much of this movie was practical.
From the helicopter under the bridge, to the T-1000 (A lot of it was a Robert Patrick wrapped in tin foil and sprayed silver) and prosthetics and puppetry.... and the entire start sequence was practical using miniatures, and in-camera projectors on a backscreen.
The only CGI, is when you actually see the transforming of the T-1000.
39:42 The T-1000 didn't just "call out to John", because - until he skewers Sarah and gets her to say "Fuck You!" - he doesn't actually know what Sarah _sounds_ like to imitate her. (If you pay attention - or rewatch the film a jillion times :) - you'll notice the T-1000 doesn't imitate someone's voice until _after_ he hears how the person speaks.)
Incorrect. James Cameron did not make Alien (originally called "Starbeast"). It was originally Ronald Shusett and the screenplay was by Dan O'Bannon which Sir Ridley Scott took over from Robert Altman, who left very early in production due to creative differences. Though it was Sir Scott that eventually brought in H.R. Geiger to create the Alien.
This is the end of the Terminator series. Don't hurt yourself with any of the others. As you go on, you will begin to realize that you can never get that time back. Time you could have spent watching something better for your channel.
Here are some "After Viewing" thoughts. . .
First, "Props" to You for watching the Special Edition...this movie is even better with all of those extra scenes put back in; it adds more "context" to certain moments which just seem "so random" without knowing. Also, James Cameron is Not the only thing that this movie and "Aliens" have in common: John's Foster Mom was played by Jeanette Goldstein, who'd also played "Vasquez" (one of those soldiers) in Aliens!!
Another Fun Fact is that Linda Hamilton had a Twin-Sister (who recently passed away IRL). That was NO optical illusion in this movie, those literally were "Twin" Sarah Connors, in like 3 scenes...one of which was Reprogramming the Terminator: Linda's Twin was playing Sarah's "Reflection in the Mirror" (there was NO Glass) and they "oppositely matched" each other's movements!!
Lastly, if you ever want to watch some Terminators or even more Alien Sequels...well, I for one would welcome it!! There are 4 more Terminators, and I do like the 3rd and the 6th almost as much as these first 2. Terminator 6 (IMO) is quite impressive, both Linda Hamilton & James Cameron did return for that one (He co-Wrote and co-Produced it)!
Oh, and before I forget, I think that Word you were searching for in Your Outro was "Formidable!" 😉 You're Welcome. . .
Don't forget the other scene where there is no optical effects. The hospital guard and the T-1000 imitating as the hospital guard were also played twins Dan and Don Stanton. "Must be my lucky day"
Regarding the T-1000 being fast,the actor actually ran track in high school and they had problems where he would out run John's motorcycle. He worked hard to be able to run without breathing heavy to be more like a machine
I believe he was a track star in college too. (I don't know which college, or how big of a "star," but yeah, the dude was fast.)
Tis true. Robert Patrick was an insanely fast runner. And still was, for a time anyway - A decade later when he was on The X-Files there's spots you can tell he had to hold back on his run speed or else he'd have caught up to some guys and ended episodes a bit early, heh.
He also trained himself to not blink while firing pistols, and to reload them by feel
Greate reaction. You picked up on things that many other reactors did not; "his flesh is not flesh anymore". Almost no one gets that. Picking an extended version is great the "ultimate" ruins the sequels. Ties in so many things. If you ever rewatch the theatrical version, you'll see and feel those missing pieces.
19:57 when they reverse over the edge of the garden, if you slow it down, you can clearly see the stunt drivers head sticking through the parcel shelf in the back window.
Robert Patrick trained so hard for this role as the T-1000. Learning to run full speed only breathing through his nose, and he was fast enough a sprinter that he actually caught the dirt bike in the mall parking garage. He was so amazingly intimidating in this movie.
When the orderly licks Sarah in the hospital, that was apparently one of the catatonia tests done by unethical or sadistic orderlies according to an old friend of mine who had worked in a few psych hospitals, mainly in California, back in the late 70s and early 80s. It wasn't unusual for patients to try to get an advantage by pretending to be catatonic, hoping that the staff would think that they were out of it and not pay much attention so they could try to escape or whatever. Licking someone's face was a mild way of testing, according to my friend. The more standard way of testing among the more brutal orderlies was what was called a cup check, basically hitting the person in the crotch as hard as they could with a broomstick or something like that (the tonfa, shown in the movie, or a billyclub, wasn't standard when he was working in the field, so the evil jerks had to use other items like broomsticks). If they didn't react then they were catatonic. And, sometimes, the catatonic patients needed to be taken to the hospital due to the damage inflicted by whatever the orderly did causing ruptures or internal damage. Apparently one patient lost his testicles as it was several days before it was realized how badly he had been hurt. And, of course, no one ever knew how it happened. “He musta fallen, or done it to himself to try to get out of here.” My friend never missed that job. He told me that some people did things worse than that, but those stories don't need repeating.
There are two sets of twins in this movie. One set are the brothers who played the security guard at Pescadero and the T-1000 imitating him. The other set are Linda Hamilton and her twin sister Lesley who played the other Sarah in the sequences like the nightmare where there are two of her are in the same scene. Lesley, a nurse in real life, passed away a few years ago.
I remember learning that Cameron got a letter from a group of scientists congratulating him for the most realistic depiction of a nuclear detonation in a city in Sarah's nightmare. This horrified him since he was just trying to create the most over the top terrifying image he could, only to discover that it was accurate.
Luckily, Sarah stepped back from Terminator mode before killing Dyson, which is good. Though killing Dyson wouldn't have changed much of anything. Cyberdyne still would have had the parts, all his notes, and everything they needed to complete the project. Judgment Day would have come anyway. The excellent Joe Morrow, who played Dyson, had an accident that punctured a lung when he was younger, so he knew firsthand how Dyson should be breathing/gasping at the end.
The extended edition had two advantages over the standard edition. Though it wasn't obvious in its performance, the continuous damage the T-1000 was taking was affecting it. It is most obvious at the scene in the smelting plant after being shattered when, as we saw, its feet tended to take on the aspect of the flooring and when it grabbed a railing its hand stuck and mimicked the paint job on the railing.
The other extended edition ending is also superior for one more reason: it ends with older Sarah sitting on a playground bench and watching her adult son playing with her granddaughter, meaning that this Terminator movie is absolutely the end of the franchise, and all the movies that steal the name of the series after this are just lame cash grabs and can and should be avoided like the plague, in my opinion.
Pretending to be catatonic in an effort to escape confinement sounds like rational and lucid, though desperate, thought to me.
@@jean-paulaudette9246 That is one way of viewing it, true, especially in the case of Sarah Connor, but it isn't always true. I remember the one story I was told where the inmate who was able to take advantage of an employee's inattention to briefly escape confinement through pretending catatonia used the hour or so to . . . I'll just say they used the time to force their will upon others in the institution who couldn't resist. The victims were medically treated at the hospital, the scandal was hushed up, the employee was fired, the supervisor was reprimanded and almost fired, and every employee was ordered to be on heightened watch for such pretense in the future.
The actor who played Dyson is Joe Morton. Not Morrow. Minor mistake but still.
I agree that death scene was very good, one of the best I've seen in cinema.
Also agree about the extra portions with the T-1000, the only extra parts of the special edition I liked. His glitches and also him 'feeling' around in John's room. Even then they are still pretty optional and aren't necessary for the film.
Most of the rest of the scenes are a step down for me. Including most of all that alternate ending which I disagree with you about - Was just too surreal and corny. And if the rest of the movie wasn't a definitive enough 'end' then that scene wouldn't have helped - They'd have cash-grabbed on this franchise anyway, somewhat thanks to having a ready made excuse of it involving time travel and alternate timelines.
Having said that I do wish that if they were gonna carry on they at least went straight to just dealing with the future war, and more as we saw it and as it was progressing narratively. Alas only thing we've gotten in more than 30 years that even hit that note was the game Terminator: Resistance. Salvation felt around that but stopped rather short and was a poor execution in any event.
@@stang5755 Gah! Thanks for the catch on Joe's name. I knew it was the same last name as my old friend Scott, but I knew both a Scott Morton and a Scott Morrow. 😀 Guess I chose the wrong Scott. 😀 But he was amazing in this role. He's such a good actor overall, back to when I first saw him in Crossroads back in the late 80s.
I actually agree with you about the playground ending. The only thing I really liked about it was that it definitively stamped DONE on the series. Otherwise it was too much saccharine and her aging makeup looked badly done. The roadway rolling past is far and away the best done ending in my mind.
I gave up on anything past Judgment Day when some friends of mine who loved the first two saw the third and were seriously pissed that they had wasted money on it. I learned my lesson about unnecessary sequels after walking out of Alien3 not even half an hour into the movie. 😛
Sadly, I have to agree that I think you're right: the franchise was just too popular to NOT take advantage of for cash grabs and it would have had the same results that Alien and Predator franchises had: trying to milk a dead horse. 😀
For his audition, Patrick sent in a video of him just staring menacingly into the camera lol
Miles Dyson was just trying to do something for good and to help people. Unfortunately history is full of scientists who are trying to do good things and help people, but also people who figure out how to turn those good intentions into weapons.
Yes - lest we forget what Hell's Highway Department uses for "paving materials".
:)
Ridley Scott and Swiss Artist H.R. Geiger created the first Alien film, but James Cameron certainly delivered an effective follow up.
Should also give credit to Dan O'Bannon, who reworked the concept of Dark Star (which he co-wrote with John Carpenter) from comedy to a horror, but Ridley Scott takes most of the accolades. Cameron switched the genre for the subsequent Alien movies from horror/thriller to a straight up action franchise.
My theory of time travel is that if you travel back in time, your atoms become part of that reality (so the laws of conservation of matter/energy would apply to them going forward) and you can't change the history of those atoms. This means that you would still have existed in the future of the original timeline (your personal past) and your existence in the past (your personal present) would be unaffected even if you were to somehow prevent your future creation/conception in the timeline you currently inhabit (your personal future).
Shout out! How many watching born on August 29th 1997? That's a cool birthday. Way better "Ice-Breaker" than the origin "Pac-Man."
When Sarah said Skynet sent "two Terminators back through time," she was referring to the Arnie model from T1 and the T-1000. Also, Arnie spin-cockin' that modified Winchester levergun might have been an homage to the Western heroes James Cameron's generation grew up with like John Wayne and Chuck Connors.
6:55 Oh! You're watching the Special Edition!
10:40 Guns N' Roses
14:17 Not literally "liquid." More like "polymerized."
24:55 Remember when happenstance saved Sarah at Tech Noir when she knocked something off her table in T1?
26:26 Both John Connor and Skynet are products of a time paradox/causality loop.
37:18 She should have chamber-loaded right there. It's the fastest and best way to get a round ready to go in any type of gun that has a fixed magazine tube. It's really easy to do with a pump-action. That one's a Remington 870 Police Magnum.
39:07 Because he knows he's malfunctioning.
39:34 If she hadn't dropped that one shell, U.N.C.L.E. Bob wouldn't have stolen her frag with his noob tube.
39:42 "It's 40-Miller time!"
Miles has the baddest-ass sacrifice scene in the history of scifi.❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥 Stop here
Aliens was another.
Apart from those very few come to mind.
Even Back to the Future made some mistakes with timelines. Terminator was a perfect time loop. If Sarah would have hid out in the mountains and waited, it all would have gone the same. When she tries to stop the future she changes it and creates a new timeline. Every movie after this when anyone time travels they would create a new timeline. Movie 5 should have looped back to the first movie again but that's where they messed up the franchise.
The weekend this started, my boss and I had to work on Saturday. We went to work at 4am so we could leave in time for the matinee showing. We made it in time and the theater was completely full.
One interesting thing about this movie is that the original movie got a lot of backlash due to its violent nature. Arnold said in the next movie he would not kill anyone. True to his word his character does not kill a single human in this movie.
So not true. 😅
Most people expect Arnold to be the good guy when they first watch Terminator. Maybe not back then, when the movie was new, but nowadays he's an established action hero. I think Terminator is the only film in which he ever played a villain.
You are correct!
...as _Batman And Robin_ wasn't a "film", so much as a horrible, horrible mistake.
:)
@@jamesnoneyabizness5611 Oh dear... I did actually forget that one. Well, at least Mr Freeze is just doing it all for a good cause. And I think he came around in that movie? I don't remember it too well, lol, which isn't all that surprising.
@@brei2670 You are _partially_ correct, as, with the support of Billionaire Philanthropist Bruce Wayne, he did agree to return to prison for the remainder of his sentence, so long as he was both allowed to continue his research into curing his wife's affliction... and have a "conversation" with Poison Ivy.
@@jamesnoneyabizness5611 Well, at least my memory didn't totally fail me. Thanks for breaking it down for me!
The actor playing the foster mom played Vasquez in Aliens.
And the mother telling the children the bed time story in the bunk when Titanic is sinking in "Titanic"...which is, of course, another James Cameron movie.
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Well, everyone has their own opinions of the rest of the movies, but I personally like them all. I'd say that Dark Fate is considered the official third movie by James Cameron. Thus pushing Terminator 3, Salvation, and Genisys into alternate timeline territory. I enjoy all of them in their own way.
T3 isn't horrible, I like it. It's not as good as the first two, but I'd stop there if you want to go an watch it. After that, the timeline gets muddy, retcons happen, and the series becomes a hot mess.
*is horrible
Greetings from Finland girl!!! Yes I'd like 2 see your reactions to the rest of this franchise!!! "I'll be back"😎
Amazing reaction as always Tara. Well, T3 can´t compete with the first two, but it´s still fun to watch. You definitely can skip 4,5,6.
Actually alien wasn't created by James Cameron it was Created by Dan O'Bannon Ronald Shusett ...James Cameron directed the second movie
Great movie
Time for Predator :)
Good movie 🕺
Imagine how different this film would have been if Billy Idol had not had his motorcycle accident, and not been available to play the part of the cop/T-1000. We did get to see him in a similar role, in his music video "Shock to the System". I always thought the video was also funny because of his Bart Simpson style spiky hair, with actual metal spikes under it.
3:04 Well, they're made to look like humans cause they're an infiltrartion unit. And generally, the frame of human skeleton is most versatile, so that's why you'd want to base your killer drones on it.
4:10 Well, didn't quite create Aliens, he made the sequel. Did a lot of work in terms of character development, but I wouldn't say he created it, especially not the creature designs themselves.
26:49 This is what you call a time paradox. Skynet sends a terminator to the past, the terminator is used to create Skynet. Skynet basically built itself.
28:09 The chip is the thing that kicked off all research, so any terminator would start disappearing once you've gotten rid of those.
Terminator III and Terminator Salvation are not as good as the first two, but are worth watching if you want to see how John's arc ends. I wouldn't watch anything past that as they're all soft reboots that muddle the timeline alot.
You watched the director's cut. I am really unsure why they did not show this version in the theaters, because it has so much more to help the story progress and answer many questions that the audience has.
Pacing.
Audiences have a lot more patience for run times when they can pause and go to the bathroom.
First, the beating in the hospital room was just unnecessarily excessive, and Kyle's appearance and dialogue were corny. Then, the scene where Sarah goes to smash the chip and John scolds her is just really bad writing and acting. Cameron both realized and admitted this, and he took it out for the theatrical version. Wise choice. I never understand why anyone would prefer the extended version? The extra scenes added do nothing to develop any character more than the rest of the film does naturally. If anything, the bad acting in those scenes hurts the whole product.
@@CoryGasaway I agree with all your points. I have never seen a James Cameron film where his cuts weren't necessary. He is really disciplined in removing what doesn't make the overall movie work better.
neither of the extended cuts is the directors cut
@@CoryGasaway I agree with you. While it was nice to see Biehn again it was corny as fuck. And seeing a scene with a now toughed-up Sarah to next just get beaten down and abused is real jarring and counter-intuitive.
Most of the other scenes/sequences are indeed just extra re-hashing info we already know or could've deduced, and/or are poorly done with crummy writing and/or acting. We didn't need to see Miles explain the 'pros' of what he's trying to do with the eventual SkyNet tech. We don't need to see the T-1000 actually steal another cop car (which actually has a different lightbar than one it is seen with later making it a continuity error) or kill the dog to see it wasn't named Woofie (which was wholly unnecessary and entirely negatively gratuitous). We don't need to see the cut to the T-1000's glitched feet to have John realize it wasn't the real Sarah (if anything that makes him come off extra dumb and extra lacking in instinct).
The changing of the CPU does explain why Termy gets honestly kinda sappy for the rest of the movie but again to show it screams its a 'for dummies' kinda deal. It is nice to showcase some cool technical work though - Namely being able to use Sarah and her twin and Arnold and a Winston prop all together in a shot. But it's not required. And right after though with Sarah and John.. yeah that was just bad.
The alternate ending is probably the poorest 'addition' as it was just absolutely corny and cloying and downright surreal. And it doesn't 'cement' anything - wouldn't have to studios who would've found a way to try to keep milking that horse, especially since they had a ready-made excuse with the movies dealing with time travel and alternate timelines. Anyway I think closing with the 'black highway' with Sarah's 'unknown future' monologue works far better from a narrative standpoint.
Indeed after seeing all the versions, aside from some very little things - changes in cut/etc here and there - the only things I liked were some extra parts showcasing the T-1000.
People thought it weird and creepy with it 'feeling' around in John's room but with cutting to Termy explaining it samples things by physical contact it makes perfect sense. I always found it neat and underrated and think it was an aspect they could've played with a bit more. That said, the movie does just fine without it.
Same with showing the T-1000's glitching at the end, sans what I said above about the feet when it's imitating Sarah. I like it because it shows that the thing *can* be damaged, and lets us have some hope for our protagonists - Parallels with the first film how we steadily see the original Terminator get steadily damaged. *But* at the same time it can be argued it's more harrowing without it because it just reinforces the nigh-on invincibility of the T-1000 right up til suddenly he is destroyed. Again it works either way.
How'd Dyson get the chip? It's a stable time loop, he gets the chip from, basically, himself. But you're wondering how that even started in the first place? It's possible that the first time around that the war happens much later in the future when technology was super advanced, and a terminator is sent back in time for similar reasons and is defeated, and people learn to make the chip much more rapidly as a result, and it led to a stable self-feeding time loop.
If you look at the Deleted Scenes for "The Terminator" (the first movie), there is an extension to the scene where Sarah is loaded into the ambulance (at the end). An exterior shot shows the ambulance driving away, and then reveals that the "computer factory" she'd been found inside of was actually Cyberdyne...or what it was in '84, before it became an even bigger Corporation by this movie! So, basically...it was Cyberdyne themselves who'd discovered the Terminator's crushed remains / confiscated them / and were working to reverse-engineer it!
I think her question was how did the chip come into existence in the first place for it to have been sent back for reverse-engineering. Perhaps Cyberdyne developed something independently on its own, it got sent back and inspired themselves and then forever repeat
Of course, this convo is restricted to only what we've seen in T1 and T2.
@@jlinkous05 According to Theoretical Physics of Time Travel, the answer lies in what is known as a "Time Loop." It is a sequence of pre-determined / pre-established events which (one way or another) must always be completed / repeated in order for the preservation of time! In this case, the Loop begins with how the previous film ends, and that aftermath leads into this second movie. By "reverse-engineering" the remains of the first Terminator, Dyson was inspired to create something that he himself would eventually create... but should not exist today (in his present time) because he's not even created it yet. I know, it's complicated. . .
oh thank god you watched the one with the right ending. you never know with the extended versions. theres a 'deleted ending' that replaces the road sequence in some versions that trys to show this happy future version of sarah and john (a senator now!), it disgusts me.
More Tara!! Woo hoo!! Wow, is this the director's cut? I've only seen bits and pieces of it
no its not
Awesome reaction Tara!
Just so you know, there's an alternate ending that you might want to check out which you should be able to find on TH-cam pretty easily. Test audiences actually hated it so they reshot the last piece and simplified it to just the shot of the road and Sarah's voice over.
One interesting bit of trivia is that the woman playing John's foster mother also played Vasquez in Aliens. She's quite the chameleon and she always looks and sounds different in every role. If you watch enough James Cameron films you'll see a lot of other familiar faces as he likes to work with the same people.
As far as sequels, they're generally not considered very good. If you're really a fan, the third film is okay but nothing special. The rest are all pretty obvious cash grabs. The first two films tell a complete story and there isn't any need to watch any of the other films unless you really want to.
100% agree with and always say the same thing as your last paragraph when telling people about the franchise 👍🏻
You aren’t wrong, but the others are worth at least one watch. Dark Fate wasn’t bad.
The Sarah Connor Chronicles tv series is a _significantly_ better continuation of the series, coming out after T3, but retconning it away and taking place shortly after T2.
Another excellent reaction, Tara.
You need to see the original 'Terminator' film to fully appreciate this sequel, 'Terminator 2: Judgement Day', there are other films in the Terminator series, these are the best two, the only other one that I would say is worth watching if you did want to react to more is the third, 'Terminator 3: Rise of The Machines'.
Thanks Adam, I too would welcome a Reaction to "Terminator 3."
@@tomhoffman4330 Thanks, it gets a mixed reception from people, I think that it's quite good, but as yet I've never seen anyone react to it so, I think that it would be a great one for Tara to do.
@@Adam_Le-Roi_Davis. You're in luck Adam, because I do know of somebody: check this guy out at "Its_A_Primate." He's already Reacted to all 6 Terminators and all 9 of the Fast & Furious too!!!
@@tomhoffman4330 Thanks for the information, Tom, it's much appreciated, I'd be interested in seeing all the 'Terminator' reactions, but I'm not so keen on the 'Fast and Furious' films, I like some of them bur not all, I'm not ready a 'Petrol Head' (really into cars and racing) as we say here in the U.K. that doesn't mean that I don't like racing/car films but I can get bored of them quickly. I'll check out that channel later tonight, I have to go now as I have an online event to attend. Thanks again.
@@Adam_Le-Roi_Davis. You're Welcome.
24:06 "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"
People with only a modicum of intelligence would have recognised that Arnie didn't kill anyone in the biker bar, and that the T-1000 did kill that policeman. So it was obvious that Arnie was not going to be the villain. Many reactors fail to understand it because they aren't intelligent.
I don’t know if I agree… there have been lots of time I have missed an obvious connection in a movie when watching it for the first time.. sometimes there’s a lot going on and you don’t always pick up on everything the first time through… it doesn’t necessarily mean you aren’t an intelligent person… just my opinion :)
It's very good that you watched the extended director's version (2h.36min and 8 sec), because there are many very important and interesting moments here) I don't like it when people watch the rental version of the film for the first time, they miss a lot.
I liked this version a lot!! :)
If you look carefully during the steel mill fight, you can see the T1000 was starting to malfunction from all the damage it had taken. So there is a way to kill it eventually if you hit it long enough.
And for the love of all that is good in the world, please don't watch anymore Terminator movies. There are none after T2 for all practical purposes.
Rather than damage taken, I always saw it as a sign of the high temps causing it to melt. A pre-cursor to the final solution on how to defeat it.
@@toughy9450 It can be interpreted in a number of ways, certainly. However, in good storytelling (which is a dead art these days) the antagonist (and Hero) must have some vulnerability that can be exploited otherwise you end up with a plot problem and a Mary Sue.
Sure, the T1000 can be vulnerable to high temperatures, that works. It can also receive cumulative damages that eventually cause various system failures-it is a machine after all.
It all works, and it's all fan theory anyway.
I always figured that was the damage from being frozen, busted to pieces, and coming back together. It hasn't yet, and may never, fully recovered from that.
@@toughy9450 that doesn't explain why its feet turned into the metal grating pattern when Real Sarah shot him from behind.
The accumulated damage -- multiple gun shots, rolling along the road after getting its hand shot off, ramming a semi truck into an overpass, getting frozen and re melted -- made him start to glitch, like when he turns away from Arnold's arm getting caught in the machinery and the silvery color goes up his body and over his face.
Oh no. Wish someone told you to watch the cinematic version of this masterpiece. The longer version added some really bad and goofy scenes that ruin the tone of this movie. Also the ending scene is really weird.
I liked it
Part 2 is even better
One of the things I love about watching reactions to this movie is that NONE of the reactors has ever noticed (or if they did notice, they didn't mention it) that this movie is the exact same story outline as the original. From the terminator and protector riding the lightning from the future to both of them searching for the person, they are planning to kill/rescue, through a couple violent shootouts to a freeway chase in semi-trucks to a finale in the warehouse. Same movie both times with the second being better -- I guess practice makes perfect. :-)
PRACTICE...
...and FIFTEEN TIMES the budget and seven years of improvements in CGI and practical effects.
Just sayin'.
:)
When you make up a story about time travel, there are no rules except that it must be internally consistent. It doesn't matter what some other author' rules are, you can make up your own. In BTTF changing the past has big effects on the future. In another universe, the effects from changes to the past die out over time until the future is restored to its original form, in still another it is impossible to change the past no matter how hard you try. For a real mind bender watch "Predestination." Or read the short story it's based on "All You Zombies" by Robert Heinlein.
Such an outstanding character growth arc for Sarah Connor. Her PTSD drove her so hard. In her effort to save humanity she was losing her own humanity and almost became a Terminator herself. Linda Hamilton played her brilliantly.
I agree!!!! Her character was so layered and awesome!!
@@TaraTunesIn I really like that Sarah was losing her humanity, only to have her son John Connor (trained by her to be the future savior of humanity) to be the one who is saving her humanity. Beautiful story context here, beautifully presented. The 'wanna-be writer' in me is geeking out over this!
I would say stop at these two movies, but Terminator: Salvation is a pretty solid movie. It takes place in the future war setting, and doesn't interfere with the continuity of the first two films very much, unlike the other sequels.
Cameron wanted the Arnie's terminator in the first film to be the T-1000, he couldn't do it as the tech wasn't there yet. T2 was supposed to come out in like 87, but the tech still wasn't good enough. He made the Abyss (1989) to test the CGI and see if it would work, if you watch that movie the creature is water based and moves like the T1000's metal. He made that movie just as a testbed, lol found out it works and this comes out two years later. The T1000 does get hurt with every piece of damage it takes. The bullets are doing damage it just takes thousands of bullets of course depending on the size. The CPU is in every part of his body so every time he is hurt the CPU takes on some damage, it;s why it was malfunctioning at the end. The arnie in this movie was going to kill John in the future, they caught it to reprogram it.
Terminator 2 was trying to tell people that artificial intelligence was coming....it came out like in 1989.... Now in 2023: artificial intelligence is here. Most movies have subliminal messages
These were the best 2. Many will recommend stopping here. Not me. I recommend watching them all... except maybe Genisys, they are not as good but they all have their good bits. Watch them with lower expectations and... they aren't THAT bad.
Oh no, the extended version, a least with the right theatrical ending. You can try the alternate one.
The rest of the terminator movies, not as good. But the Spin-off TV series Sarah Connor Chronicles was very, very good. Different actors, but you forget quickly.
Tara whenever you're confused about a movie, just keep re-watching it. That's what I do. And before you know it, it'll click
1. Linda Hamilton must have been getting "Ah-nold time" to get ripped like that 😍🥰
2. My guess is that stove is hot🧐
3. John's childhood friend looks like the older version of the kid, but isn't, that played Tom Hanks' younger self's buddy in BIG.😎
4. Arnold did many of his own stunts in this movie, including riding the motorcycle. At one point he was injured, and they had to stop production for a couple of weeks so he could recover.
5. Arnold is not left-handed, but the way he works that shotgun is impressive😱
New to your channel, love your honest reactions to the twists in this. Great to see young people watching these classics with no spoilers. I definitely recommend They Live (1988) and Dark City (1998), both have great stories and mind-blowing reveals.
41:57 Whoever came up with the notion "boys don't cry," didn't have a f_cking clue what they were talking about.
With the caveat that for some reason I REALLY dislike Jason Clarke's face, you can enjoy the rest of the franchise, I believe. I did.
Terminator 3, which does continue the story from T2 and stars Claire Danes and Arnold Schwarzenegger, with a hilarious cameo from the psychiatrist, introduces another prototype that has different abilities than the one in T2. It's not as good as the first two films, but I do like it.
Terminator: Salvation, starring Christian Bale (The Dark Knight), Sam Worthington (Avatar), Bryce Dallas Howard (Jurassic World), Anton Yelchin (Star Trek), and Helena Bonham Carter (several Tim Burton films), comes next, has great effects, an original plot, and a big twist, so I do recommend it - and it continues the story from Terminator 3, which it is better than.
Terminator: Genisys stars Emilia Clarke (Game of Thrones), Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Jason Clarke. I don't like Mr. Clarke at all, but love Ms. Clarke, and Arnold is great in it, so please consider it. It spins off a new timeline just as Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles did on TV.
Finally, Terminator: Dark Fate reunites Linda Hamilton and Arnold Schwarzenegger, and also stars Mackenzie Davis. I really hated an early plot twist but liked the movie overall because of the three stars and the character development of Sarah Connor and the terminator. It spins off a new timeline directly following Terminator 2, and for that is unconnected to Genisys, Salvation, or T3.
If you like twisted time travel movies check out 1: The Philadelphia experiment 2: The final countdown ✌️❤️
Cameron's films are a good timeline of the development of special effects:
"The Terminator" (1984)
"Aliens" (1986)
"The Abyss" (1989) first use of CGI in ANY movie
"Terminator 2" (1991) first CGI charater, first use of morphing
"True Lies" (1994) skillful mix of new CG and traditional practical, miniature, and optical matte effects.
CGI has been used in movies since original Westworld (1971). It was mostly used to represent in-universe graphic displays like radar, targeting systems, robot vision, panel readouts, etc. The Death Star plans in the locker room scene in original, pre-special edition 1977 Star Wars was CG.
The first 3D CG vehicles and props were in "Tron" 1981, the first 3d CG animated character was the glass knight in "Young Sherlock Holmes" 1985, and the first 2d morphing FX were in "Willow" 1988.
The Abyss water tentacle was the first 3d morphing character, T2 just took it to new levels.
@@chrisleebowers The death star plans were rotoscoped and composited manually, as were the blaster fire, and the energy weapons in the futurewar scenes in both T1 and T2.
When people say CGI, they do not mean replacing the image on a in-frame screen, they mean adding an object or physical effect (fire, explosion, lasers, etc) that were not on the set.
@@jhilal2385 ??? No, that's wrong.
The Death Star plans were *vector graphics CG output from the graphics dept of UIC.* The lasers in Star Wars and Terminator were hand animated and rotoscoped by *cartoon animators using pencil and paper.* Color and glow was added in the dark room exposure process.
When people say CGI they mean *Computer Graphics Imagery.* ANY computer graphics imagery.
"they mean adding an object or physical effect (fire, explosion, lasers, etc) that were not on the set" No, that's called VISUAL EFFECTS which for nearly a HUNDRED YEARS was done WITHOUT COMPUTERS. If the Abyss had the "first CGI character" then WTF was 1933 King Kong?
Feel free to look up and confirm any of that, just know that when you say "they" you're talking about ME - I'm a VFX artist and CG animator with over 30 years in this business.
@@chrisleebowers But I said CGI in my initial post, not CG. That is Computer Generate Imagery.
Now engaging TH-cam's premium "Mute Troll" function. Adieu.
Your reaction preview at the start of your videos is so funny. Please watch Escape from New York, The Last Dragon, the original Fright Night, and Glengarry Glen Ross next. Thanks.
About the time paradoxes: In one branch of quantum theory, every action generates a related, but different time line. The paradoxes don't occur because the new time line follows a different path. It gets totally beyond comprehension when you consider that each person's daily choices set up different multiverses where the butterfly effects can change everything.
"Back to the Future" was creating new time lines, not actually returning to the ones that were left. "Man in the High Castle" concluded with "our" time line' Nazis looking to pillage their alternate time lines.
So the theory goes. Everything that can happen, DOES happen, somewhere.
But maybe 1) Time travel is impossible or 2) We are just avatars of a gamer on a matrix-style computer network
The death of Dyson is tragic. Yeah, he probably should have thought about what his invention was going to be used for, but once he was told what would happen he was 100% in agreement that his life's work needed to be stopped. Ultimately, though, had he survived, he and Sarah would have eventually realized that he needed to die anyway as his mind would have remained the only place where that information was stored.
My recommended viewing order for the Terminator series is The Terminator, Terminator 2: Judgement Day, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (tv series), and that's it, just stop there. Two names from the TV series you might know are Lena Headey (Game of Thrones) as Sarah Connor and Summer Glau (Firefly) as a new character. Because it was canceled somewhat unexpectedly when they wanted to make T4 (I'm guessing that's the reason), but, while the ending certainly leaves a lot of story untold, it doesn't do so in a way that ruins what came before.
FYI, it's almost always a bad idea to use one movie's rules of time travel in an attempt to understand another's. Because time travel is _entirely_ fictional (just about everything we know about physics suggests it isn't possible) every time travel story will have its own rules. In some instances, like Star Trek, they'll actually use different rules in different episodes (which is lampshaded on at least one occasion when agents from "Temporal Investigations" come to interview the people involved in a time travel incident to determine what kind of time travel was involved).
Actually, Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles takes place after T2 starring Lena Headey as Sarah. You would know her from Game of Thrones. The show was pretty good imo and pretty short lived. The other Terminator movies are alright, especially three
In T1 Kyle said he was from "one possible future"; like the future is a branching tree of possibilities. In one of thos possible futures Skynet gets invented from scratch, Sarah's son and Kyle Reese exist. In that future, the first Terminator and Kyle gets sent back in time, and with advanced knowledge both Sarah's raising of John (who in this "second go round" is Kyle's son) and the chip from the first terminator cements that future into place, making it take up almost all the branches of the tree. In T2, the chips get destroyed and Dyson dies, making the branches of the future with Skynet in it much fewer, but still existant. Just look at our advances in AI today; it might not have happened at the date they set in Terminator, but it may still happen some time later.
This is one of my all time favorite movies!
Now, some fun/interesting facts.
In the opening scene, Arnold was wearing neon blue and green surfer shorts, and they had to keep reshooting because the extras couldn't stop laughing.
John's foster mom is the same actress who played Vasquez in Aliens.
Linda Hamilton had a twin sister play her in the scenes where they were doubled.
In the lab scene, notice that Sarah is wearing a gray trenchcoat similar to Kyle's.
In the steel mill, I have two theories why the liquid terminator was acting strangely. A, he was glitching due to being smashed into pieces, or B, the heat was preventing him from fully solidifying.
26:50 The thing you're talking about here is a fundamental paradox of time travel. I've heard the example that if someone goes back in time to the 60s and teaches John Lennon "Strawberry Fields Forever", and then the Beatles record and release it...then nobody actually wrote "Strawberry Fields Forever".
It's what's come to be called "The Grandfather Paradox", which is the idea that if you go back in time and kill your grandfather at an early age, then your father would never be born. And if your father isn't born, then neither will you be. And so you can't go back in time to kill your grandfather. And that means your father will be born, etc, etc. It just creates a loop.
The reality of time travel is that it probably won't ever happen and can't ever happen because of the nature of reality and cause & effect. And really honestly, that's probably for the best.
For the sake of time travel in science fiction, it's best not to think too much about it, because it all just comes crashing down when you really think about it. Just accept it as a story device and not try to find the logic in an illogical thing.
The truth is, you think you don't understand how time travel works, but you actually understand it just fine.. The problem is, you're trying too hard to make sense of something that doesn't and can't make sense.
there is a T3-6, T3 is the last 'classic' the they had to make movies while Arnie was 'The Govornator' of Cali, so the rest are kinda weird, 3 isn't as good as 2, but it rounds out the story to it inevitable end.
PS- reguarding the T1000 chasing John on the motor bike, they had to do the scene over and over because that bike was a lil 125cc and the actor was So fit for the roll he kept catching John.
In the first "Terminator", Reese tells Sarah that the Terminator is a "Cyberdyne Systems Model 101", and at the end of the movie the sign on the factory that they run into says "Cyberdyne Systems". The story was always intended as a double paradox: John is born because Reese travels through time, and Skynet is built because the Terminator travels through time.
Other Terminator movies after this? What are you talking about? Only 2 Terminator movies have ever been made, and you've watched both. It's a real damn shame no more Terminator movies were ever made. Would certainly have been a multi-decade movie studio tent-pole franchise. *Sigh*
Terminator, like Alien, is a franchise where it's best to stop after watching the second movie. None of the sequels could really match. It's not just that T2 gave the ultimate Terminator as the villain, but the writing of 3 and beyond is just not to the same caliber. It could be blamed on John Cameron leaving the franchise, but he returned for Dark Fate and that was still not received well.
Fun fact - The mirror image of Sarah working on the robot head, was actually Linda Hamilton's twin sister matching her moves to create the mirror effect.
Arguably the best action movie ever. Arguably the best sequel in film history
I would dispense with most of the remaining sequels, honestly, in favor of the all-too-brief television series, The Sarah Connor Chronicles. That show was very well done - a worthy follow up to the first and second films. Of course, it did get cancelled at the end of its second season, leaving us with a major unresolved cliffhanger. Sigh.
27:16 An ontological paradox (also called a "bootstrap paradox" or causal loop): Skynet is the cause of its own creation through sending the original Terminator to eliminate Sarah, but simultaneously the cause of its own defeat since by doing so it initiated the events that resulted in John's conception (John sending Kyle back to protect his mother).
My favorite movie of all time. Everything about it is perfect.
Terminator 3 isn't bad, but it retreads the same ideas.
The Terminator TV show, the Sarah Connor Chronicles, is the other recommended entry into the franchise.
When the movie was released, they didn't keep secret that Arnold was good in the movie. TV commercials gave it away. When Arnold appeared on talk shows, they showed the clip where John tells him he can't kill people an Arnold says "Why".
Judgement Day is inevitable. No matter how many times you stop it all you can accomplish is just delaying it.
Better late than never... (LOL) It's always great to see you again Tara, and I hope you had a blast with this one!
What the heck, you sleep here too!
@@e.d.2096 "I was just in the neighborhood." (LOL) I heard from Tara this morning, she was struggling with copyright delays, so no Premiere today. But she'd promised to try and have this up by tonight, so...I was just waiting around for it. . .
@@tomhoffman4330 Are you on better terms with your folks?
@@e.d.2096 Yeah, I guess last night was just an "off" day and I took it too personally; sorry again for that, btw. But yeah, my folks have been a better mood today.