Trying the Barnes 130 gr TSX in the 6.5 PRC from a clean bore
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- Today we will be Trying the Barnes 130 gr TSX in the 6.5 PRC from a clean bore to see if they shoot better from a bore that has been scrubbed clean. Many say you have to scrub the bore before shooting solid copper, let's see if it makes a difference in my 6.5 PRC.
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I broke out my 6.5 PRC yesterday. I might be a 6.8 Western guy, but 6.5 PRC is right up there. New video up. Keep it coming!
Nice!! I'll have to check it out...thanks for watching!
I told you my friend. It wasn’t you. Hammers👏👏👏
I looked at them last night JC...will be ordering a sample pack for giggles
Hmm... Glad I'm not the only one that doesn't see a difference with a clean barrel.
It was opined that the clean bore shots didn't do well because I hadn't fouled the barrel...but then it wouldn't be a clean bore shot, would it?
If you have to ask "was that 2nd shot me?", it wasn't you. A shot that bad - you would KNOW it was you.
I agree Sir...but that rhetoric question just begs to be asked when on camera, lol
👍👍great job as always Halfmile, appreciate your content.
Glad you enjoy it! Thanks for watching!
In my .270 Win 😅 started at .050” off the lands and went to .110” off before getting my best groups with the Barnes 110 gr TTSX. It seems to me you left a lot of powder space( and velocity) with that powder. I look for close to 100% case fill for best accuracy. Ive only tried the 140 gr ELDM in my 6.5 PRC with H1000, always sub moa. Haven’t tried the Barnes yet. I really like Barnes performance on game.
I'm still trying to find the load...I'm pretty far off the lands now, but I need to bump the charge up. With copper 130 gr I should be seeing closer to 3000 FPS. I have ordered some 127 LRX and I am looking at the Hammer bullets.
Thank you for sharing you video I really appreciate the time you put into making and sharing.
Keep up the good work
Thanks, and thanks for watching. I appreciate that you do. We'll have some more 144 gr Berger video coming soon too.
Yeah same boat, I tried the 130’s in my seekins and it didn’t like it very well. However it really shot well with any powder load with the 147gr ELD-M. Nearly same velocities too, which I thought was weird but gonna stick with the 147’s for a while. Cheers.
That's what mine likes too. I do want to try the 145 BT hollow points.
I will be trying some 127 LRX copper bullets soon. For lead core, I am finding the 144 gr Berger Hybrids to be good shooting.
@ I’ll have to give those a shot. The Berger 140 VLD did well also. That’s it, ordering them today.
I shoot alot of copper bullets in various different rifles and they like lot of jump. 80 thou off the lands is a good place to start. Just my 2 cents. Like watching your channel and appreciate you sharing all of your work with us viewers
These copper bullets are seated farther off the lands than the ELDs and Bergers are. I'll have to measure to see how far next time (if I do more) I make a batch. I think I am pretty close to 80...maybe.
I saw someone shoot barnes matchburners and he had similar results to you. I don't think I'll waste money on more expensive barnes bullets.
Thanks for measuring the trigger pull for the howa
I said this several times since shooting that last batch...how can a rifle that shoots .5 inch groups regularly start slinging rounds this wild? Not to spoil anything but there are more .5 inch group coming and they aren't copper, lol.
Glad to have measured the trigger pull...It truly was heavier than I expected.
Thanks for the video. I am working on my 260AIs.
Good luck! I'll be trying some the the Barnes LRX bullets soon as well.
I personally have never had the dirty bore/clean bore variance with barnes, but that is only with the few rifles i own..it never mattered..
I never had to consider it until CA made copper mandatory for hunting. Figured I'd test it out in my rifle since it was clean, lol.
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@@pabloco091 Gotcha...now I can associate the names, lol
Glad to see you do this…. My experience is copper shoots best if bore has been cleaned thoroughly after shooting lead. TY Ron Spomer. And I agree about Hammer bullets- they are AWESOME. Cya tonight
Of course there are some that differ from my experience/opinion… ie- ReloadingWeatherby! 🤷🏽♂️
I shoot Barnes ttsx and lrx exclusively in all my hunting guns. I've always found the best accuracy at close to maximum charges, and coal listed in Barnes' data. The clean bore thing has never been an issue for me. I have yet to find a rifle that wouldn't shoot sub-moa with the right powder and charge. My 6.5 loves the 127 lrx, and will put 3 into 1/2" at 100. It seems that rifle doesnt love that particular bullet, but you do seem to be towards the low end of velocity for the PRC. I'd try a heavier powder charge and maybe give the 127 lrx or the 120 ttsx a try.
I ordered some 127 LRX last night. I am still early in developing the copper load. Higher charges will be coming...that's why the velocity seems low for a PRC.
@Halfmilesniper Right on man, I was literally in disbelief watching that rifle print such big groups with the ttsx. I've had several different Barnes factory ammo shoot well under an inch. Their factory ammo is usually on the hot end of velocity in a given caliber, which leads me to believe that their people have found the same thing I have about them shooting best at high velocity with a good bit of jump. That 127 lrx is extremely lethal on game as well.
@@robertmajors1737 Can't wait for them to arrive so I can put some together.
Also with that said i was able to build sub moa with all of them, 243, 30-06,35whelen, 6.5 cr., 270, 7mm-08
I'll keep trying to come up with a good load. I have just received some 127 gr LRX Barnes copper that I'll try next.
Hmmm..... ? It can get frustrating, but it is trigger time and that is nearly always a good thing.
Definitely can't complain about getting trigger time...even bad trigger time is great.
Try running the bag on the bag rider, might see more stability.
Also.... If you do try prs, you're probably going to need to work on not sky loading.
I will try moving the bag to the rider next time I'm out, it seemed pretty stable at the grip too.
The rifle is pretty much on target, now if you mean closing the bolt when I'm not in the scope...I see what you mean.
@Halfmilesniper you nailed it.
Just gotta be in scope when closing bolt.
I think you would love PRS
👍Thanks Halfmilesniper !
I appreciate it Mike, thanks for watching.
You will figure it out Halfmile I'm sure of that.
It's just frustrating that this rifle, which can shoot sub .5 inch groups throws such large groups with copper. I'll keep trying though...you never know, this may be one that just won't work with copper.
But you did prove that the copper projectiles hit the target before the table wobbled 😂. With 130gr I thought fps would be over 2,900. Never know until you try. Appreciate your time & good camera setup. 👍🙏🎯🇺🇸
LOL Bill...even the copper were at the target before recoil moved the table, lol. I expected over 2900 as well since the regular H4831 was at 2850...surprised that the SC version ran slower. I think the piece I am missing, or haven't quite dialed in yet on the GoPro spotting scope set up is I need to get is close on focus then zoom in the GoPro. We'll see how that works soon enough.
Have you adjusted the seating depth?
Not yet I haven't. These are seated pretty deep though..some say the copper needs/like some jump. I will have to play with it for sure but I also have some LRX on order and will probably get some Hammer bullets too.
@ usually the copper bullets will have a narrow node. I was shooting some earlier this year with terrible accuracy. I decided to do a depth test like I’d do for my fclass rifle and poof, I’m getting 1/2 MOA at 100.
I find they like a fouled barrel like anything else, but a fouled barrel from their own kind :)
dang missed it. gotta watch it now. hows the expensive solus build coming? take us along! decide on cal yet?
I hopefully pick up the action tomorrow. I haven't decided the caliber yet, but whichever I choose I will be bringing y'all along for the build...
I might have to break the build up so it's like one piece per video to avoid getting in YT trouble, lol.
Sorry I missed the premiere.
That's cool William...good thing the rerun is available whenever you are, lol. I appreciate you watching.
Hornady brass is always inconsistent in my experience.
I think it’s the bullets my friend
I am kind of thinking the same...that is why I ordered some LRX and have been looking at thge Hammer bullets too.
I missed last night buddy
Not a problem Randle, hope you and the Missus are feeling better.
Try 56.6 gr h4831
I stopped short of the with both H4831 and H4831SC...more work to do. Thanks!
Just quit using Barns bullets they have never worked in many of my rifles . I have had success with the 6 ml match burners
I am going to try the Barnes 127 gr LRX and I need to order that sample pack of Hammer bullets. The 130 gr .264 don't seem to work for me, but the .277 work well in my .270.
I missed grn weight, too light ?
These were the 130 gr Barnes TSX...someone suggested Hammer bullets and someone else suggested the Barnes LRX...I'll look around for some.
You would have a better outcome with hammer bullets. 🤝🤝🤝
I'll have to see if I can get any of the Hammer bullets locally...I will just say I am less than pleased with the Barnes in the 6.5 PRC.
I have to order thru their web site. There is also a community of reloders with sharing there workups also a list of load data from Steve the owner. Very likable fella always there to help
@@JCJustice-kv2gy I have to look into that...not to spoil anything but the rifle and copper are....
we'll see, lol
I think enough people have proven that clean barrels and copper after lead core bullets statistically shoot better. Besides a clean barrel is a controlled metric. Soooo, what you didn’t show us in this video is load development. You didn’t show us if you fired a few fouling shots. So tell us, did you just load those six bullets and shoot only those on a clean barrel? If so, do a ladder test of five each and see if we find a node that projectile likes. We know that rifle will shoot. We know Berger and Lapua will.
I enjoy videos like this. I’m no expert, I just dabble at it. But I watch as much of F Class John, Erik Cortina, Primal Rights, Ultimate Reloder, WhoTeeWhoo, X-Ring, yourself and others as much as I can. I have a job that affords me time for such, even though it’s a physically brutal job. I do have some experience too though. My 28 Nosler has rang the steel at one mile on big target and MOA at The Clinton House Plantation. It’s also hit at 1.25 miles there as well, but I just got close to the MOA a few times from there. Also my 6.5 Creedmoor has hit both at one mile there. I love this stuff, just wish I got to do it more often.
In all my rifles copper has been hit or miss whether factory of handload. With that said, I have to use copper to hunt in this state so I want to find a load that works. I did not do any fouling shot, you are correct on that...I shot them from a clean bore. As far as load testing, I looked back at the better shooting copper load (still an inch plus) and tried the next .5 gr up for this test...very abbreviated. Sometimes those shortcuts work out and often they don't.
I have some LRX on order now because maybe the TSX isn't what I need. We'll see because I want to zero in on a good copper load. I really want to stretch to 1760 yards with this rifle...one of these days...
Seems pretty weak for 6.5 PRC. I can get over 2900 fps in my 6.5 creedmoor and 6.5x55 with 127 LRX and 130 CX
This H4831SC caught me off guard, I was expecting 2900, maybe a tick higher since H4831 at .5 gr lower gave me almost 2900. I have some LRX bullets on order now.
Thats odd
I know, right?
i dont think it likes that combo
Me either...I'm thinking the rifle doesn't like these bullets, period. I just ordered some LRX and I am currently looking at the Hammer bullets....sooo pretty.