Glock 17L gen5 BUYER BEWARE! I took a $232.15 loss on this pistol so you don’t have to 🤙
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You’re not the only one who has had malfunctions with it.
That is why I generally wait six months to a year before entertaining the thought of purchasing a new to market model of anything. Just in case there are bugs...
That is definitely a very good idea.
Purchased 17L about a week ago cleaned and lubricated it and headed to the range. I used high quality Federal 115g, 124g, and 147g along with Blazer 124g and Magtech 115g. I loaded the 115 Fed and had nothing but misfires, jams and stovetop partial ejections. I switched to the 124g weapon cycled a little better but still the same issues. Finally I utilized the 147g which seemed to cycle the best but not perfectly! I field striped it and lubricated it again firing the Blazer124g and finally Magtech 115g still encountered cycling and extraction issues, but not as numerous. In total I fired about 250 rounds through it. Hopefully this is just a break in issue, but from videos I’ve seen this seems like a pretty common issue with the L. I wish I had watched the videos before I purchase, but that’s water under the bridge now. I will see how it runs when I go back to the range and if I have the same issues I will contact Glock for warranty claim so they can check it out. Lastly my CZ USA CP10-F cycled perfectly one jam/misfire firing 115g and 124g ammunition.
@@cameg1670 sounds like your 17L is like mine was. Sorry to hear that man. Glad the CZ ran good though.
I’ve heard several complaints about this gun already. Good thing I passed it up.
@@alexrain1188 mine was definitely not up to what I want out of a glock.
I have the G17L Gen 1 and it has never had any issues… i did ditch the horrible sights though. Got all blacked out sights with the rear one being adjustable. I love it.
@@Drarovaikoks yah my gem 2 &3 are flawless. This one was just a lemon.
Factory gun, PMC 9mm.. it should have run without issue. That gun needs to be sent in. I feel your pain. Don't listen to the comments below blaming anything your doing-- that gun is a lemon. PS: I'm a former Glock Certified Armorer
I also ran 124gr lawman and my carry load federal hst 124gr+p. All had issues. When cold the accuracy was decent but once it heated up malfs and fliers were too much for me. Thank you bud. I appreciate that!!!!
Looks like the slide is short stroking. Might want to adjust your grip and shoot 124g out of it until it is broken in. I also have a Gen 5 17L and it has run perfect for over 1000rds. Not a single issue.
Man I’m glad yours is good. I fired two different 115gr and my carry load federal 124gr+p and still had issues. Plus the hotter it got the crappier it shot.
The plastic dust cover was done to lighten the slide. Your ejection was very weak. The ammo was barely generating enough force to cycle the gun.
Yh I assumed it was the ammo at first too. I switched to speed lawman and still issue. I though one mag of my carry ammo (federal hst 124gr +p and it malfed one time in that mag.
@@livennick9 You might try thoroughly cleaning the gun if you haven't already. My 17 gen 1 classic was doing the exact same thing. It turned out to be a gunky residue on the feed ramp that was causing the issue. I hope you get it figured out.
@@mikemcintosh295 yah I did that the night before. I wish it would have been that simple. Thanks for the info though.
I shot mine in a Glock match making a 496 out of 500. I own 3. Dude your rear sight is adjustable for windage and elevation. Sand bag it and put it on paper!
Took ky Gen 5 Glock 17L out today for the frst time. .100 round mix of 124gr winchester and 115 gr amerisan eagle. 0 issues. Zeroed a Holosun MOS reflec sight and at 18 yards shooting under 2”.
@@Buckeye-gq9nq that’s great. I’m glad some are good.
I zeroed my iron sights at 50 yards. I shot a red dot sight dead center. #fyourdot
@@IronsitePistols awesome job man.
@@IronsitePistols heck yah
No I shot the red dot itself. The thing blew to pieces.
1) Replace the recoil spring assembly 2) Install your dot. The milling on the slide has reduced weight ; adding the sight may be the correction. Try both recommendations as the fix together.
Thanks for the advice man but the plugs that swap from gen 3 guide rod/spring to gen 4 and 5 assemblies would not fit in this pistol because of the way the plastic dust cover is only half mooned. I tried that right off the bat. As far as the sights they would be dead on but once the pistol heated up from shooting accuracy went to crap. The hotter it got the crappier the accuracy. Cold it was dead on. When I sighted it in with the adjustable sights it was dead on. After the range review it was hot and went from a 1” group at 10 yards to 3.5” at 10 yards with one flyer that went a touch under 6”. Thanks for the suggestion though. My gen 2 and 3 17Ls have the same factory sights on them with absolutely zero issues.
I brought this Gen 5 17l about a month ago and fired it a couple times I will make it a priority to run it this weekend
@@norrisdillahuntjr4570 probably a good idea but I’ll be honest man I more than likely had a lemon. I hope anyway.
Shouldn't have to do this with a new gun.
Allegedly Glock is saying this gun needs 200 rds nato to break in the spring. I can't speak to the accuracy.
Definitely an issue with slide speed. You can see your ejection is weak and occasionally ejects almost vertically. PMC is also notoriously weak ammo across its entire lineup.
The 17L is a lot of slide mass for a 9mm round. It’s why it has so many slide cutouts and the new plastic front piece. Less mass attempting to make it run all sorts of ammo reliably. I think adding an optic will just contribute to the issue.
I wonder if this gun is going to be similar to when they came out with the 9mm glocks and tried to use the same RSA as the .40, I think that was either Gen 4 or
5 before they figured out 9mm needed its own spring setup. Maybe Glock will have to play with the spring weight a bit more.
The dust cover is polymer to lighten the slide. I know another owner that is having failure to eject/stovepipes multiple times in a mag.
I recently purchased a new old stock G29 gen4 and it gave me nothing but failures to feed regardless of mags and ammo. They took it back, changed a few small parts and when i got it back the issue was still there. Sometimes you get lemons but the issues in the 17L are apparently common enough.
Yah this was with three different ammo selections. Sorry to hear about your 29. Ten year ago there were nowhere close to the amount of lemons as I see now.
No it's plastic because that's cheaper than aluminum 😂
@@clutchboi4038 being cheaper is a byproduct of what Glock is trying to do. Glock has a reputation of being able to reliably run any kind of ammo, but 9mm is a weak round to reliably run such a large slide with any kind of ammo. The same issue is why 9mm 1911s didn’t run well for years. 9mm doesn’t have the ass to reliably run a large metal slide.
They are removing material to make the slide lighter to improve reliability. Previous 17Ls had slide cut outs internally to accomplish the same thing. There are still slide cut outs internally on the Gen5 17L, but they’re different because of the MOS system.
@@countryboy9546 buddy the dust cover made from aluminum would add essentially zero weight, cycle just fine and it wouldn't be cheap ass plastic 🤣. They did it because they are cheap.
@@countryboy9546 like bro I just looked there are aftermarket 17L slides that are fully filled in with steel and have an integrated dust cover. Weight is not the reason why they have a cheap ass plastic dust cover 🤣.
Unacceptable. This is becoming all too common in the industry around the board. Sorry you had to deal with that.
Thanks bud. You’re very right. It’s almost like it’s becoming acceptable to put out crap. It dang sure wasn’t like this 25 years ago when I started shooting. People took pride in their work. Kinda why I’m leaning more towards revolvers these days. I’ve never had a junk smith and Wesson revolver.
@@livennick9 i'd even be careful with those nowndays. If you can just inspect it first. Make sure its not outta time and the barrels put on right and you should be ok. I just got a ruger gp not too long ago and my rear sight pin almost walked totally out after bout 50 rounds. Take care and better luck to ya in the future
@@FirstLast-ff7qx dang man. That sucks. Tiger has always made pretty dang good stuff. I love my older gp100s. My match champion is still to this day one of my favorites. Like you said about checking timing it’s a lot easier to check the timing before purchase than hope a semi doesn’t jam. Thanks for watching man. I hope they got that sight pin taken care of for ya.
@@livennick9 thanks buddy. I didnt even get around to tellin ruger bout it yet. Im sure they'd take care of it but i'll just do it myself before i take er out again 👍
Just purchased the 19 Gen 3. Not a Glock Fan Boy but it's the most recognized handgun in the world IMO.
That is exactly what I traded this back in for. Actually I sold this one back to the shop I bought it from and bought an unfired battleworn 19 gen3 from a different shop. The gen3 19 is probably Glocks best pistol ever made in my opinion.
@@livennick9 Will rotate it with Hellcat Pro for Winter Carry. The 320 is getting retired to the safe even though Sig says it's ok.
@@34dawgsgo heck yeah
Your looking at the glock but it's your skill level
That’s good stuff man. You’re probably right.
Your grip is the problem it's not the gun
@@joebell7057 cool.
You guys are idiots. If he had a bad grip he wouldn’t be able to manage the recoil that well and continue to fire multiple shots in a somewhat fast cadence. He also has plenty of other videos shooting guns better than most ppl with pistols
@joebell7057 not alot of evidence to assume it's his grip. Based upon his doubles return I would say he has enough skill to ascertain it could be the gun or ammo.
Short stroke for sure. Recoil spring is too heavy. Springs are hard to get right and when millions of guns are built on an assembly line there will be a few bad springs that lead to this issue. I don't buy whole guns new but when I build my slides I get a variety of spring weights to try because cuts in the slide and optics can change what you need. Seems like an easy fix to get it cycling.
Now the inaccuracy is probably because of the barrel and that sucks too because glock should be getting that right. You definitely should send it back for that.
You aren't holding it improperly or anything those comments are wrong. You aren't limp wristing and so it's definitely the recoil spring. I have experience building several Glock clone slides and it's the issue 95% of the time. The PSA dagger recoil springs are notorious for this but I fixed all my builds with proper ISMI springs.
I had the same problem. I cleaned it of all grease, re lubed it and she runs great! I had 4 ftf out of the first box of 50. After cleaning I shot another 50 without a single issue. What ammo are you using
115gr cheap crap for the first 100 then switched to Speer lawman and then to my carry load federal hst 124gr +p. All had malfs.
Brother it comes with adjustable sights for a reason…? If it’s off then adjust the sights
@@cjsieloff7660 😆 yah I adjusted it as high as it would go. It was just a lemon.
Thing is though you cant call a company trash just because his gun is a lemon. I have a gen 4 17 not the L version. And its never jammed. 5k rounds through it. Its roughly 8 years old.
Glock is very far from trash. But this individual pistol definitely was.
@@livennick9 i get it. Im not a glock fanboy in 9mm i own a ruger glock and walther, and tbh i trust all of them
I ran 300 rounds of steel case and pmc with mine yesterday, was also hitting steel at 100 yards. This is a you problem.
@@heisman01 thanks for the info. Like I’ve said before it was a lemon. Even though glock makes excellent products a bad one gets through from time to time.
Work the spring with heat or buy replacement
So they made a replaceable plastic recoil buffer instead of having a tombstone cut and you can’t shoot worth a damn…who would have thought.
@@dasboot9471 exactly. I suck at marksmanship
I do too with some pistols. Prolly we all do depending.
Appreciate your complaining and lack of effective troubleshooting.
You’re very welcome man. Have a great day.
Saw a video where another guy had the same problem and his Taurus Ts9 was way more accurate than the Glock 17L.
Exactly. They screwed this pistol all up in my opinion. Heck my 40 year old smith and Wesson snubnose j frame 36 is more accurate than this piece of junk.
So Glock really cheaped out and put that plastic dingleberry thing on the front?
I had very little interest when I heard Glock was releasing the 17L Gen 5, and now I have exactly none.
And I agree. Either Glocks work of they don't assuming they haven't been obliterated with aftermarket garbage, and it would definately be going back and gotten rid of. Recently went through these same problems with a 43X, and it was immediately sold and gotten rid of.
Unfortunately, now that the man Gaston himself is gone, I suspect we'll be seeing a lot more of this from Glock in the future.
Exactly. Unfortunately that’s kind of the way things go when people pass or companies get sold. Things get cheap.
Not a gun problem its your grip. Accuracy is also a grip problem.
My 40 year old smith snubnose j frame is more accurate than this piece of junk and have video proof.
@@livennick9sure it is 🤣🤣
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Not necessarily it could be a genuine barrel issue considering that he shoots well with other pistols. The new Daniel defense pistol that is $1500 was shooting key holes for another TH-camr at very short distances so it's not impossible for even a premium pistol barrel to be bad.
To fix the issue he needs one size under recoil spring weight and a known good barrel. Springs are pretty cheap but I'd send it back to Glock for the barrel after testing with another barrel.
Gen 3 , accurate and reliable. Just my personal preference
@@bglk2310 same here bud. The gen 3s especially the pre 2012 models are what made glock known for their reliability and durability.
we all get one that just doesn't work right great video nick
Thank you bud. Yah it’s a shame but could be worse. There seems to be a lot more lemons in the last ten years than there was before. On everything not just firearms. I think a lot of people don’t put pride and qc in their work anymore.
"Malfunction is caused by ammo or operators grip... always. Glocks don't malfunction unless you fail to believe in them... so it is always operator error."
- Generic Glock Fanboi
(sorry...)
Seriously though... surely something is wrong with it from the factory. I don't have a 17L, but I do have several long slide aftermarket and aftermarket prototype long wheel base Glocks... which have had minor issues I don't have with stock Austrian Glocks.
SMH. This is the reason gen5 17 is main Glock 😂 not a fan of unproven gun setups no matter the brand. They had another gun that was jamming last year at a Show because of a “heavy” optic & people were in disbelief, funny enough i believe it was the 49. something that small making a gun jam I don’t want it. 17g5 already long enough
I agree man
It was sprinkling outside,
That was the problem.
Geez looks as long as my 10 mil G40. 😂. My pig 🐖 gun
G17L and G40 both have 6.02" barrel's. Love both of mine.
That plastic piece is a no go in my mind. Sure, they save a few production pennies, but long term, that should be at the minimum, aluminum of good quality or the same high end polymer of the frame.
Exactly.
Lol the polymer in the frame isn't that high end. Personally I think the polymer p80 uses in their frames is tougher than than what official Glock frames use.
There have been other guntubers with the same issue
It’s a shame man. I was really wanting it to be great. Oh well, could be worse.
You should be worked up. We spend our money 💰 we got to depend on these guns
Exactly. QC with pretty much every company has gone to crap and it’s becoming the norm. Prices go up and QC and build quality goes down.
I like Glock but that plastic guide piece is crap.
Exactly man. I’m not sure what they were thinking there. I know it saves a bit of weight but dang. It also seemed like the more the gun heated up from shooting the more it jammed.
I hate that for you, Nick.
I'm one of the unlucky guys when it comes to Glocks. Two of the three I've purchased new had issues out of the box. Sucks when a new gun starts having fits when it's new. That's a pricey loss, but is probably better than wasting your time beating your head against the wall with Glock's customer service.
Man you got that right. I’ve shot a lot of Glocks over the last 20 years and the 3rd gen was the best. I’ve had issues with 4s and 5s. In my opinion the 3rd gen Glocks made glock who they are today. Now they just live off the name I think.
Stick to Gen 3 guys.
Definitely. The gen 3 is what made glock who they are today 🤙🏼
@@livennick9 Absolutely!
Ummm I don't trust the guide rode being held by a 3D printed plastic. Nope that's a failure point if you ask me. Already have trust issues with these polymer frames busting lol jk but really Glock. Cheap mofos that just want to burn your pockets with no innovation on their new gens 🤣
Exactly
User error
@@minnil7927 that’s weird. My gen 2 and 3 17L and my gen 3 24 run great and are very accurate. But thanks for watching and the comment. Helps with the algorithm
Need a 34.
@@tacticalbt1023 34 and 35 are awesome pistols for sure. I used to shoot a 35 in steel challenge.
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That type of malfunction indicates a short stroking of the slide.
Recoil spring tension.
Extractor tension.
Slide to frame fit. Could be rubbing.
Man my first thought was just drop my spring wait to 13 like I’ve done on most my Glocks I have just for comp or range use but with this gen 5 there was absolutely no way with the way the guide rod lays against the plastic dust cover. I’m a nobody but in my opinion it’s a poor design all around compared to my gen2&3 17l
🤣😂🤣 now according to the glock fan boys a glock never has a malfunction,, you no they are gonna blame you or the ammo,, you no this don’t you,, and I think the gun is hideous looking,, it looks like a dill doe with a hand grip mounted on it,🤣😂🤣
😂 so be it. That’s one thing about my channel if a gun is junk I let people know it. I’m definitely not brand devoted. Yah it definitely has a funky look to it. I have a gen2&3 17l that have been flawless. This one sucked!!!!!