@ThePowerMoves I think that was sarcasm due to scientific research being paid for by the actual vaccine company.telling me and you what we wanted to hear and not the actual facts.goid old trustworthy scientific research.
That is the entire pseudospiritual redpill group.... They are ALL like this... and this is coming from a spiritual guy who is well, redpilled. They are a blemish on reality, science, history and fact. I can't stand 98% of my own community and blocked from every group for spitting facts lol.
I’ve noticed that broscientists (like the Gary guy in this video) actually seem to be the ones who are over complicating things. While evidence based guys like Layne are making topics such as nutrition more straightforward and easy to understand.
Because they think they're smart and that the system is 100% lies, when it's more like 70% lies. Science is science. Half these idiots probably failed chemistry in HS.
Past President of the National Board of Physician Nutrition Specialists here and I learned something in this video! Seems like even Dr. Norton was surprised upon searching that glycemic load is lessened by blending whole fruit. I’ll have to dig into that with other nutrition colleagues, but I’m certainly ready to buy that if you blend whole fruit, keep all of the contents, losing none of the fiber, that there is no significant difference. Besides, comparing blending and drinking whole fruit with going out and eating a bacon egg and cheese biscuit from McDonald’s… I mean come on Gary,
I've heard others suggest the seeds (on some berries) when broken up in the blender contribute to this effect. When the fruit is eaten whole the seeds stay intact and just pass through your system.
Do you think it has something to do with salivary amylase causing a quicker breakdown of carbohydrates when chewing /mixing with saliva ? I'm curious as well. I'd guess you get less amylase production when just drinking it.
One argument I've read is that blending fruit changes the fiber structure. I mean probably, but does the effect really lessen the FUNCTION of said fiber? Insol is insol, sol is sol. The idea that blending insol makes it more like sol is genuinely stupid.
@@Jordy-927 thank you. I did. Conferred with another colleague of mine, PhD Nutrition from Rutgers. Hard to explain but one issue that concerns me is we also need to see insulin area under the curve. If the rapidity of the glucose absorption from blending is resulting in a massive blast of insulin that’s causing the glucose area under the curve to be less, while the insulin area of the curve is far higher, and even more so in relation to the reduction of glucose area under the curve, is not a metabolic advantage.
Non homogenized fruit cocktails, where the fiber is LESS available to digest (soluble and non-soluble), would spike the GI more than the homogenized one where the fibers (both) are broken down to smaller size hence making them MORE available to digestion which would delay sugar absorption. I've made the test using a CMG device .......Apple, strawberry, raspberry and blue berry smoothie (250ml): 6.0 mmol 45' after drinking it; the same fruits cocktail (whole): 6.7 mmol after 45' consumption. That might not apply to everybody out there though...... Thanks Dr Norton; good point, excellent videos 👍👍
Very surprising results - I will definitely experiment with this too just out of curiosity. Also, when we blend fruit, most of us tend to add other ingredients (veggies, protein, nut butters, etc) which, I’m guessing, would further lower the blood sugar response.
The audio quality! Amazing! It sounds like you got a mic that can support your enthusiasm/volume yaaaaaaaaay =)) Also: you're the man, thanks for the great content. Data > feelings and "where's the citation?"
Thank you for dispelling this common myth that I too started to believe in due to not critically assessing the evidence. It didn’t occur to me that there would be people publicly lying over things that would eventually be fact checked by someone capable. It is just bizarre how much that is happening, especially in claims about nutrition. Also just wanted to say: loving this friday format. I don’t always habe time for the full videos of my trusted nutrition scientists and this format is regular entertainment and information. Thanks for these and keep up the great work you do against this tide of nutrition information “entropy”
Excellent video, we now live in a world where putting out a 30 second tik tok video makes one an expert. There is now cross pollination of channels so the same "experts" (like chiropractors who seem to know how to cure everything) appear everywhere...all claiming their info is "science based"! Thanks for giving us an example of what science based actually means (although not all science is good science)
3:07 It was in the end of the abstract of the study: "We hypothesize that a reduced glycemic response in blended apple and blackberries compared to whole apple and blackberries might be associated with the release of dietary fiber and nutritive components from ground blackberry seeds." -- Crummett and Grosso, "Postprandial Glycemic Response to Whole Fruit versus Blended Fruit in Healthy, Young Adults"
You know I’m 62 years old. I’ve heard it all seen it all so I was scrolling down and I found your site I was thinking all right who is this guy? After listening to you man you sure do know what you’re talking about. I’m impressed.
@@vigilantezack in the clip at least, he said "blending the banana and eating it raises bloodsugar faster than a tablespoon of sugar" implying that NOT blending the banana doesn't.
It makes sense that blended fruit would spike blood sugar more quickly because it doesn't have to be broken down as much as half chewed (because I gobble food too quickly), so I'm glad there's a study and that someone looked it up. I assume that pounding my smoothie with protein powder and full fat yogurt will also dampen the blood glucose response.
Those study results were fantastic! I wanted to give more likes to the video, but YT so no. A long time ago I saw a study showing that gastric emptying is slower when you blend soup than if you don't. That would cause a slower release of nutrients into the bloodstream. Why this is though? No clue.
One thing you can hold bananas accountable for is that blending flavanol-rich fruits and vegetables with high-PPO food like bananas releases the PPO and destroys the flavanols available. While bananas are delicious and healthy food, if you are trying to consume flavanols, should consider preparing smoothies by combining flavanol-rich fruits like berries with other ingredients that also have a low PPO activity like pineapple, oranges, mango or yogurt.
Further, increasing consumption of dietary flavan-3-ols can help improve blood pressure, cholesterol concentrations, and blood sugar. Strength of evidence was strongest for some biomarkers (i.e., systolic blood pressure, total cholesterol, HDL cholesterol, and insulin/glucose dynamics).
From my experience, eating a whole fruit is better than juices, im diagnosed as a type 2 diabetes, and the whole fruit tends to rise less my glucose levels at 1h and 2h postprandial measurements. And yeah, there's something really important not mentioned in the video, the insuline respond, i suspect that a whole fruit rises less the insuline respond than the blended one, a massive insuline respond can explain why glucoose levels seemed lower, for a normal person of course.
Here's my 20 year old self worrying about glycemic index, eating the entire package of 400g (sometimes one and a half) of oats and wholemeal choco biscuit, with 20grams of oil and sugar in equal measure per 100g. Really intelligent. I've been the vivid result of what happens with stupid paranoia. The same for the "combination of different food"
I guess if the banana is blended it could get absorbed faster because you can swallow it faster, but then again you could have protein powder and fiber powder and a fat source in the shake, which would slow down the absorption again.
That still doesn't mean it's 4x higher at all. The fiber still exists, therefore it still imparts intended effects. Though your other point isn't wrong. This is why placed like Jamba Juice exist.
@@josho.9530 Yeah, also as I kept watching the video he said that with some fruits, the seeds get ground up and the oils get released, so then the glycemic index goes down. Meanwhile if you eat it you just swallow the seeds whole and they slide through you.
Vetting through formal education is a huge deal, but I especially like that your counter-arguments don't solely rely on declaring your academic background; you present the current research to support what you're saying.
My guess on the blending mechanism: When you blend it, the fiber is spread out more evenly in the fruit, so over all, it takes longer to digest, whereas when it is unblended, the fiber is less evenly distributed, so you are able to digest the fruit a bit faster, explaining why there is a slightly higher increase vs blended.
If we can be honest, it all boils down to how simple they make it, and how well they communicate it. Even Gary's clip in this video felt compelling because he spoke with just delusional confidence and authority 🥲
Insoluble fiber is lost and soluble fiber is mostly retained. Not all of the fiber is removed by juicing but it will naturally raise the glycemic impact of whatever it is that your juicing. Grapes and watermelons are about the worst fruits to juice due to the low fiber content and high sugar content.
It also depends what else you put in the smoothie… if there is protein + fat + fruit + fiber, that would lower the glycemic load as well as rate of glucose/insulin spike.
Gary could be referring to the study’s done on polyphenol oxidase and how that breaks down Flavanols in other fruits however how flavanols effect ones glycemic index why we need you to explain since Gary might not be the guy to explain that to the general public.
Bart kay doesn't need the studies,he's got the script of how to deal with layne. But please do keep trying to encourage layne to debate Bart kay I would pay good money to see that.
While I agree with a lot and enjoy this content it’s so contrary to the growing studies and literature on UPF It’s not just about calories it’s also about the food matrix and eating non UPF (processed is fine). The more I catch up on your videos the more out of date it is. No one contests its calories but choosing specific types of foods can make calorie counting redundant.
Great content! The problem with this spiking glucose nonsense is you need to know if you’re talking about a normal person, one with metabolic syndrome/prediabetes, or a diabetic. If you are metabolically normal person your blood sugar is tightly regulated no matter what you eat. A rise in glucose is a normal feeding response!
if you read the discussion of the first article, you would realise there is more nuance related to seeds and insulin: “blending these fruits (mango or apple) may result in a higher insulin response, which could result in sub-baseline glucose values one to two hours after the meal”
Wow. I was gonna keep blending my fruit anyway, but that's crazy. It's counter intuitive. The body must have to work harder because we don't chew as well as we blend.
nice and love it, one detail though, dr rhonda patrick claims to stop mixing banana into smoothies because it has a protein that oxidizes some important nutrients from the other fruits. keep it up legend i love this!
There is a lot of discussion in the "biohacking" realms these days about keeping the blood glucose basically flat as a means to the longevity end (wait is that an oxymoron?) So, in that respect at least, minimizing the glycemic response seems like it would be a good thing for health, over many, many years. I think part of that line of thinking suggests that continually spiking your blood glucose is what leads to leptin or insulin sensitivity issues (I can't remember which...) basically that it gets overworked, damaged, and then this leads to T2DM.
Who would have thought that actual scientific research and a PhD could provide more accurate nutritional advice than a TickTock video?
I know, his next video should be about the wonders and effectiveness of the covid vaccine backed with the scientific research.
Shocking
@ThePowerMoves I think that was sarcasm due to scientific research being paid for by the actual vaccine company.telling me and you what we wanted to hear and not the actual facts.goid old trustworthy scientific research.
Crazy how some people talk out of their butt with so much confidence! Thanks Layne for debunking these trends that have contradictory evidence!
That is the entire pseudospiritual redpill group.... They are ALL like this... and this is coming from a spiritual guy who is well, redpilled. They are a blemish on reality, science, history and fact. I can't stand 98% of my own community and blocked from every group for spitting facts lol.
Data > Feelings
Actual real feelings>bollocks data!
Feelings are opinion, data is facts. But you are free to express your opinion 😃
@@heartshapedmistakes depends who pays for the data
@@heartshapedmistakes worded that wrong it depends on who pays to make the data
@@Macgee826 exactly why we critically analyse studies and never base facts on one study alone. There will always be limitations and advancements.
Thank God we have you Layne, way to speak the truth.
I’ve noticed that broscientists (like the Gary guy in this video) actually seem to be the ones who are over complicating things.
While evidence based guys like Layne are making topics such as nutrition more straightforward and easy to understand.
Because they think they're smart and that the system is 100% lies, when it's more like 70% lies. Science is science. Half these idiots probably failed chemistry in HS.
Past President of the National Board of Physician Nutrition Specialists here and I learned something in this video! Seems like even Dr. Norton was surprised upon searching that glycemic load is lessened by blending whole fruit. I’ll have to dig into that with other nutrition colleagues, but I’m certainly ready to buy that if you blend whole fruit, keep all of the contents, losing none of the fiber, that there is no significant difference. Besides, comparing blending and drinking whole fruit with going out and eating a bacon egg and cheese biscuit from McDonald’s… I mean come on Gary,
I'm actually interested in hearing more about this. Please hit up Dr Norton with whatever you find. I'm just curious.
I've heard others suggest the seeds (on some berries) when broken up in the blender contribute to this effect. When the fruit is eaten whole the seeds stay intact and just pass through your system.
Do you think it has something to do with salivary amylase causing a quicker breakdown of carbohydrates when chewing /mixing with saliva ? I'm curious as well. I'd guess you get less amylase production when just drinking it.
One argument I've read is that blending fruit changes the fiber structure. I mean probably, but does the effect really lessen the FUNCTION of said fiber? Insol is insol, sol is sol. The idea that blending insol makes it more like sol is genuinely stupid.
@@Jordy-927 thank you. I did. Conferred with another colleague of mine, PhD Nutrition from Rutgers. Hard to explain but one issue that concerns me is we also need to see insulin area under the curve. If the rapidity of the glucose absorption from blending is resulting in a massive blast of insulin that’s causing the glucose area under the curve to be less, while the insulin area of the curve is far higher, and even more so in relation to the reduction of glucose area under the curve, is not a metabolic advantage.
Non homogenized fruit cocktails, where the fiber is LESS available to digest (soluble and non-soluble), would spike the GI more than the homogenized one where the fibers (both) are broken down to smaller size hence making them MORE available to digestion which would delay sugar absorption. I've made the test using a CMG device .......Apple, strawberry, raspberry and blue berry smoothie (250ml): 6.0 mmol 45' after drinking it; the same fruits cocktail (whole): 6.7 mmol after 45' consumption. That might not apply to everybody out there though...... Thanks Dr Norton; good point, excellent videos 👍👍
Very surprising results - I will definitely experiment with this too just out of curiosity. Also, when we blend fruit, most of us tend to add other ingredients (veggies, protein, nut butters, etc) which, I’m guessing, would further lower the blood sugar response.
good point....I used almond milk in both cocktails 🙂
Your channel has become my favourite since i found it like 2 weeks ago. Excellent stuff.
The audio quality! Amazing! It sounds like you got a mic that can support your enthusiasm/volume yaaaaaaaaay =)) Also: you're the man, thanks for the great content. Data > feelings and "where's the citation?"
Thank you for dispelling this common myth that I too started to believe in due to not critically assessing the evidence. It didn’t occur to me that there would be people publicly lying over things that would eventually be fact checked by someone capable. It is just bizarre how much that is happening, especially in claims about nutrition.
Also just wanted to say: loving this friday format. I don’t always habe time for the full videos of my trusted nutrition scientists and this format is regular entertainment and information. Thanks for these and keep up the great work you do against this tide of nutrition information “entropy”
My a priori intuition was what Gary claimed (in direction, not necessarily magnitude). Thanks for pointing us to the evidence!
Excellent video, we now live in a world where putting out a 30 second tik tok video makes one an expert. There is now cross pollination of channels so the same "experts" (like chiropractors who seem to know how to cure everything) appear everywhere...all claiming their info is "science based"! Thanks for giving us an example of what science based actually means (although not all science is good science)
Not just "experts" - rich "experts".
Chiropractic is a religion, it isn't even a science. They're all stupid cult members. There is a documentary out there about that. Check it.
3:07 It was in the end of the abstract of the study: "We hypothesize that a reduced glycemic response in blended apple and blackberries compared to whole apple and blackberries might be associated with the release of dietary fiber and nutritive components from ground blackberry seeds." -- Crummett and Grosso, "Postprandial Glycemic Response to Whole Fruit versus Blended Fruit in Healthy, Young Adults"
I will pay to see this fuckin debate. I’d imagine Gary may do it if he knows we’ll pay.
You know I’m 62 years old. I’ve heard it all seen it all so I was scrolling down and I found your site I was thinking all right who is this guy? After listening to you man you sure do know what you’re talking about. I’m impressed.
"20g of sugar from a banana raises blood sugar more than 5g sucrose in a spoon" wow it's almost like 5g of sugar is less than 20g of sugar
The the guy was perfectly correct then.
What are we fighting about?
@@vigilantezack in the clip at least, he said "blending the banana and eating it raises bloodsugar faster than a tablespoon of sugar" implying that NOT blending the banana doesn't.
Sounds like the way to go for post workout recovery 💫
Insulin is very anabolic
499 days no alcohol 🥇
Stop counting, start living, brother.
Audio quality is sounding great Layne!
New era
Thank for giving us this information and to help us
just sitting down with a post-run fruit & protein smoothie and this is the first video in my feed. here we go... ;D
I don’t know if it’s intentional, but the audio is noticeably better this video
That Tee is fire!!
Can't wait for this debate! Thank you doctor.
Love Layne his content is always on point and so educational
This why I listen to Dr. Norton… No BS
Thanks for the debunk!
It makes sense that blended fruit would spike blood sugar more quickly because it doesn't have to be broken down as much as half chewed (because I gobble food too quickly), so I'm glad there's a study and that someone looked it up. I assume that pounding my smoothie with protein powder and full fat yogurt will also dampen the blood glucose response.
Great shirt!
The best scientific fitness channel, by far
Thank you for including citations!
Those study results were fantastic! I wanted to give more likes to the video, but YT so no.
A long time ago I saw a study showing that gastric emptying is slower when you blend soup than if you don't. That would cause a slower release of nutrients into the bloodstream. Why this is though? No clue.
One thing you can hold bananas accountable for is that blending flavanol-rich fruits and vegetables with high-PPO food like bananas releases the PPO and destroys the flavanols available. While bananas are delicious and healthy food, if you are trying to consume flavanols, should consider preparing smoothies by combining flavanol-rich fruits like berries with other ingredients that also have a low PPO activity like pineapple, oranges, mango or yogurt.
Further, increasing consumption of dietary flavan-3-ols can help improve blood pressure, cholesterol concentrations, and blood sugar. Strength of evidence was strongest for some biomarkers (i.e., systolic blood pressure, total cholesterol, HDL cholesterol, and insulin/glucose dynamics).
Thanks again Layne and yes, I will buy that shirt. Love it.
Well I'm glad Dana White knows who you are because he should know who you are and thank you once again for calling out the BS!
From my experience, eating a whole fruit is better than juices, im diagnosed as a type 2 diabetes, and the whole fruit tends to rise less my glucose levels at 1h and 2h postprandial measurements. And yeah, there's something really important not mentioned in the video, the insuline respond, i suspect that a whole fruit rises less the insuline respond than the blended one, a massive insuline respond can explain why glucoose levels seemed lower, for a normal person of course.
I think it's because of fibre in whole fruit that dampens insulin response.my parent has diabetes and she's been told to steer clear of fruit juice
Wow, i always thought smoothies gave a larger insulin response then whole fruit. Great video Layne.
I want that T-shirt...I swear I would wear it day and night😃...Great info as always...keep up the good work...have been learning so much from u
Here's my 20 year old self worrying about glycemic index, eating the entire package of 400g (sometimes one and a half) of oats and wholemeal choco biscuit, with 20grams of oil and sugar in equal measure per 100g. Really intelligent. I've been the vivid result of what happens with stupid paranoia. The same for the "combination of different food"
I have been craving a banana smoothie since I watched this video 10 days ago. Thanks Layne
Welcome to the world of info bites. First it was TLDR; now it is TLDL. Big thanks to you Layne. Love your vids. 🙏💥
I guess if the banana is blended it could get absorbed faster because you can swallow it faster, but then again you could have protein powder and fiber powder and a fat source in the shake, which would slow down the absorption again.
That still doesn't mean it's 4x higher at all. The fiber still exists, therefore it still imparts intended effects. Though your other point isn't wrong. This is why placed like Jamba Juice exist.
@@josho.9530 Yeah, also as I kept watching the video he said that with some fruits, the seeds get ground up and the oils get released, so then the glycemic index goes down. Meanwhile if you eat it you just swallow the seeds whole and they slide through you.
Thank you for clarity
Layne, greatness again!
Keep killing the BS click- baiters
I love this channel! Reasonableness and facts! What a novel idea!
LETS FUCKING GO LAYNE.
Robert lustig also preaches the difference between blended and whole fruit on blood sugar
Keep them honest Layne! Thanks for the great content.
Joey Diaz was on Rogan saying this about bananas as well. And I think a blended banana should be the least of Joey’s worries on health issues.
I've been blending 2 frozen bananas into my protein shake for 15 years. Same weight then as I am now. Not diabetic or insulin resistant.
Great video. Thank you.
OMG I’ve been waiting for you to do this one 🙌🏼😹
Dude, that is the best fn shirt I've seen in 20 years.
I love this channel. Have you looked into grounding / earthing. Does it actually help. It would be great to get your take on it !
Vetting through formal education is a huge deal, but I especially like that your counter-arguments don't solely rely on declaring your academic background; you present the current research to support what you're saying.
Keep calling out all the nutrition bullshido!
💪
Lots of food wizards out there now !
Very interesting reading those studies
My guess on the blending mechanism: When you blend it, the fiber is spread out more evenly in the fruit, so over all, it takes longer to digest, whereas when it is unblended, the fiber is less evenly distributed, so you are able to digest the fruit a bit faster, explaining why there is a slightly higher increase vs blended.
the authors of the study noted that it’s likely due to the seeds in the berries that mixed
Layne just brings it
I live for What the Fitness!
Hello, Layne. Keep shoulders up+chin up!
Thanks that was a goofy assertion. I own a Vitamix and retain the fiber. 🙏🏻👹🏋🏻🏊♀️
If we can be honest, it all boils down to how simple they make it, and how well they communicate it.
Even Gary's clip in this video felt compelling because he spoke with just delusional confidence and authority 🥲
Thanks for doing what you do!
I bought that shirt from you and I freakin love it.
Gracias
What happens when you juice the fruit? Is all fiber lost and does it increase the glycemic impact?
Insoluble fiber is lost and soluble fiber is mostly retained. Not all of the fiber is removed by juicing but it will naturally raise the glycemic impact of whatever it is that your juicing. Grapes and watermelons are about the worst fruits to juice due to the low fiber content and high sugar content.
💪 👏 👏 👏 🏆 🥇 Layne for presidency !
Great, tell it how it is, love it.
It's a great feeling when you saw through the myth before watching the video and the content confirmed what you knew.
DATA > feelings
Been eating fruit shakes with ptotein for 30 yrs. Perfect health screen about a month ago.😂
We need more of this Bull shit policing Layne, this Gary guy has talked enough shit, thanks for what you do my man 💪🏻
We need more content like this
You can influence me aby day! 😊 Love the shirt and, as alwqys, enjoy your videos. Can't wait for the debate! 🤝
It also depends what else you put in the smoothie… if there is protein + fat + fruit + fiber, that would lower the glycemic load as well as rate of glucose/insulin spike.
WE NEED THE DEBATE
Gary could be referring to the study’s done on polyphenol oxidase and how that breaks down Flavanols in other fruits however how flavanols effect ones glycemic index why we need you to explain since Gary might not be the guy to explain that to the general public.
Thank you gut your skills in advanced debunkabily. Don’t know if that’s actually even a word, but it is now. 😆
DATA >feelings 4 algo
I would love to se you debate Bart KAY. That would be entertaining. Because Bart knows everything and doesn't need scientific studies.
Bart kay doesn't need the studies,he's got the script of how to deal with layne.
But please do keep trying to encourage layne to debate Bart kay I would pay good money to see that.
Thank you sir
Hopefully Brecka comes through for the debate. Would love to see!
Love Fridays
Would pay to watch you debate Gary Brecka if you could maintain this level of sarcasm through the entire thing.
While I agree with a lot and enjoy this content it’s so contrary to the growing studies and literature on UPF
It’s not just about calories it’s also about the food matrix and eating non UPF (processed is fine).
The more I catch up on your videos the more out of date it is.
No one contests its calories but choosing specific types of foods can make calorie counting redundant.
Well explained
It all becomes a smoothie in the stomach, Gary.
Great content! The problem with this spiking glucose nonsense is you need to know if you’re talking about a normal person, one with metabolic syndrome/prediabetes, or a diabetic. If you are metabolically normal person your blood sugar is tightly regulated no matter what you eat. A rise in glucose is a normal feeding response!
if you read the discussion of the first article, you would realise there is more nuance related to seeds and insulin:
“blending these fruits (mango or apple) may result in a higher insulin response, which could result in sub-baseline glucose values one to two hours after the meal”
Well done Layne 🎉
Wow. I was gonna keep blending my fruit anyway, but that's crazy. It's counter intuitive. The body must have to work harder because we don't chew as well as we blend.
nice and love it, one detail though, dr rhonda patrick claims to stop mixing banana into smoothies because it has a protein that oxidizes some important nutrients from the other fruits.
keep it up legend i love this!
Looks like one for Layne to investigate.
Great video
I love you for all your credentials and sitations. Brecka is a quack over charging for his quackery.
thank you.
That is the best shirt EVER!
FOOORRR THE ALGORITHM 🤝🏾
There is a lot of discussion in the "biohacking" realms these days about keeping the blood glucose basically flat as a means to the longevity end (wait is that an oxymoron?)
So, in that respect at least, minimizing the glycemic response seems like it would be a good thing for health, over many, many years. I think part of that line of thinking suggests that continually spiking your blood glucose is what leads to leptin or insulin sensitivity issues (I can't remember which...) basically that it gets overworked, damaged, and then this leads to T2DM.
Nice work once my friend 😁👍💪👏
Ahahaha 🤣 You're the best brother! I love watching your stuff man!!