they tried, Judge denied it saying they were too late, statue of limitations was 4 years. And judge said they had to sue back in 2006 when their zoning was changed to residential.................Judge is in someone back pocket, thats fursure
Glad he got his variance - If I owned it I would have spent all day pulling in and out of there with my private vehicle and would have called the township everyday to unlock it so I could do "maintenance" on the property. Got to love government - it works for itself, not the people who pay for it.
Can’t believe those selfish ignorant disgraceful neighbors have the say over if he can use his driveway. If that was me I wouldn’t care at all and would continue to use the driveway I paid for.
HankB1993 if I was him I would drive down it not giving a fuck. Either that or just buy the loudest truck and drive it at night revving the carp out of it laying on the horn
Looking it up, apparently the couple did that for awhile. Then they were fined almost $100,000 for violating the court order forbidding them to. So moral of the story - do not disobey court orders. Ultimately they lost the case.
ChristophProbst It’s also the driveway to their house, they still use it to access the house. They can do all of that noise thing they want until they get another fine for disturbing the peace.
Last time I checked the government can't stop you're right to pursue happiness. If this man has a business in a light industrial area trying to make a way of life on his Pursuit of Happiness it's a violation of his right
This person I know has family members at the top of the Town council. Can pull stings, put up obsticles for housing and businesses. To their advantage and stay wealthy.
smithwez1101 the fire department locks are KNOX locks. They allow the fire department to enter in an emergency. Next time you walk up to a commercial property look for a brown box about 2 inch square with a flip up door near the front door. The fire department have keys to that box which contains keys to the building so if there is a fire alarm and they need entry they don't have to resort to destructive entry methods (busting glass, busting in a door)
there is another way, they need to install a road in the town ship zoned light industrial, Said it has to go through a ditch and would be costly. I cant see it costing that much. I would go ahead and get it done at this point.
Why didn't WDTNTV wait until the outcome of the meeting before publishing this video this was just a rehash over old news not a proper update with a result WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH
Key issue at hand, the township was not gaining tax revenue on the business entered via their community. So to offset the losses they'll get some income through the fees charged to seek a variance.
Real simple. ....start a 3rd shifr only self ran vary LOUD industrial business. ..like siren building or rock crushing or both....problem solved. ....neighbors will love storage after all.
See why should government decide what your doing on your own property as long as your paying taxes? This is the result of government with nothing to do that needs to be downsized.
Two things should be done. One he should be told he can't expand the location but he is allowed to use what he has now. Secondly he may use his drive way for commerical use, maybe with some limitations. Maybe hour limits, say 6AM to 9 PM? Also maybe encourage all the clients to use it as little as possible because of the neighbors...and I mean I would say thats faier.
Why would you by land in two adjoining counties anyway? When the property was bought, you knew that one half the property was zoned commercial and the other zoned residential. The placement of the business tells all. It was built on the piece of property zoned commercial. The problem lies in the fact that access too the business is thru the residential portion of the property meaning there is no access from the commercial side.
'As probably the closest person to any activity, doesn't bother you?' Howard: 'Doesn't bother me...just those cars in the morning, few cars in the evening, that was about it' 'For nearly four years, Howard Polly has been renting the house on this property off Petty Royal Rd, so he's seen it during busy, and now quiet times.' 'Now we're told neighbors have complained about dust, and traffic, but again, Howard Polly, the one living closest to the driveway and the storage facility, isn't one of them." Neighbors. *sigh*. In my city in Canada, a mansion owner would share his good fortune by letting a religious group hold meetings once evening a week on weekends in a large, opulent, room in his basement. Some neighbor(s) complained about just the cars coming and going, so he was driven by the city to end the meetings.
Someone reported that the business owner bought a bulldozer and locked himself in the business....at night all anyone hears is a bunch of welding and hammering...sounds like he found a hobby to keep his mind off all the townsfolk who have a vendetta against him.
Jesus Christ - a simple solution is to have him pave the damn driveway (no more dust) and to limit the traffic to certain business hours (no more risk to children). WOW.
Most states have a right to access law where even if you do not own the ground the drive is on, you cannot be denied access. Evidently this state does not.
There was a close up shot of the locks, they were on in such a way that unlocking any of the locks would get the gate open. The fire department had their own lock and key.
The squeaky wheel always gets the grease! If your neighbors have a problem with you they can call the lawn dogs and they will shut you down..... take you to court cost you thousands of dollars to fight and fines. Government is always the problem because they are there to back people that want to cause you grief! Been there and done all of this for at least 20 years now. Horrible!
Regardless of the fact that someone at the county was originally mistaken, this guy knowingly decided to run commercial business traffic through a private driveway in a residential zone in one county to a commercial zone in a different county. He was trying to defeat the entire purpose of the zoning. He can still use the commercial property for business, but needs an entrance from the county where it is zoned as commercial. It's very likely that's the reason he was able to afford the odd properties to begin with, and now he's mad that his original scheme has fallen apart. Also, the one neighbor who is currently _renting_ nearby doesn't matter in this situation. That's not the point about what the property owner in question is trying to do.
A conditional variance was granted, but the court found that the conditional variance was impermissible. The zoning board denied an unconditional use variance.
ChristophProbst The mistake might have been suing them in a County Court, they should have sued in a Federal Court. The good Ole boy system, doesn't work in federal court, because you have a judge who is going to look at the facts, and be unbiased to the situation. Not saying they are not biased when it comes to checks on the president, but they are unbiased since this will be the first they hear of this story.
I wonder who, in the zoning departments have a vendetta against this family. Sounds like a complete abuse of power with certain people in their municipality. If I had property stored in there, nothing besides a bullet would prevent me from accessing my stuff, simple as that.
The "neighbors" are probably just some old hens who have nothing better to do but stare out their window and complain to the town hall because they are no lifers.
It's his land,. I'd tell them to piss off and put up no trespassing signs. One of the county comes to cause problems I'd have him charged with criminal trespassing
Having the traffic for a commercial facility enter through a residential neighborhood is just like having the commercial business in the residential neighborhood. It's a valid complaint and he should have seen it coming. The only option is to have an entrance from the commercially zoned area. Tough break but hardly difficult to predict.
he sure sue the township for lying cuz they give him a approval & then take it away that wrong & sure be against the law a town or city cant give approval someone then months or so later take it away & lock the place up that a federal crime that the township did i think & who ever did it sure be arrest & charged
Dang Karen’s nothing else better to do, seeing some one else making money and this happens, why don’t they bring the person or person’s out to see if’s a legitimate complaint, Maybe some but hurt over losing business
Some neighbors can be real Aholes! This has all happened because bad neighbors don’t want to see a little dust. I guess they don’t realize that the air they breath is also full of dust. Some people... geeze.
This must be in America because where I live. if you live in a condustrial zoned area and complain the township tells you that you live in a condustrial zoned area and to expect things like that to be there. But I guess legitimate businesses being allowed to stay open as legitimate businesses when make too much sense "for the land of the free"
You got approval from the township now they take it away. I think it’s time to sue the Township!
They are pretty much immune.
they tried, Judge denied it saying they were too late, statue of limitations was 4 years. And judge said they had to sue back in 2006 when their zoning was changed to residential.................Judge is in someone back pocket, thats fursure
Glad he got his variance - If I owned it I would have spent all day pulling in and out of there with my private vehicle and would have called the township everyday to unlock it so I could do "maintenance" on the property. Got to love government - it works for itself, not the people who pay for it.
Convert the storage units into rentable housing. More legal traffic should piss off those who complained
funny probably someone who lives 5 miles away complaining
a stupid libtard no doubt
Wilson Bobcat service hahaha usually is :-)
jburr36 leave it to a dumb fuck republicuck to bring politics into a nonpolitical issue.
Sir Lord Mr President Trump Found the libtard.
Givadanger WRONG! Proud conservative, though I'm not afraid to call out the dumb fucks like you when I see them!
Can’t believe those selfish ignorant disgraceful neighbors have the say over if he can use his driveway. If that was me I wouldn’t care at all and would continue to use the driveway I paid for.
HankB1993 if I was him I would drive down it not giving a fuck. Either that or just buy the loudest truck and drive it at night revving the carp out of it laying on the horn
Looking it up, apparently the couple did that for awhile. Then they were fined almost $100,000 for violating the court order forbidding them to. So moral of the story - do not disobey court orders. Ultimately they lost the case.
ChristophProbst
It’s also the driveway to their house, they still use it to access the house. They can do all of that noise thing they want until they get another fine for disturbing the peace.
Last time I checked the government can't stop you're right to pursue happiness. If this man has a business in a light industrial area trying to make a way of life on his Pursuit of Happiness it's a violation of his right
Best thing for the busy body neighbor get a restraining order against them then if come within 20 feet off you legally shoot them .
Government is the problem--not the solution.
Depends on what the problem is.
capnbobretired HE SHOULD HAVE CHECKED HIS PROPERTY LINES!!!
Yes they are, screwing people over left and right without giving it a second thought
The county gave them permission to use the driveway to conduct business until other neighbors complained and the government had no choice.
In this case the neighbor is the problem. Time to organize everyone else, and make their life a living hell.
the nanny state strikes again..
I'm sure the "neighbor" complaining is some karen living 10 houses down
U right probably is a karen
Sounds like to municipality is liable for a couple thousand $$$!
"no ingress or egress except for lawful customers." government people who make a business lose money must pay that loss NOT the business owner.
Sickening abuse of power.
my guess is whoever he pissed off had some connections.
davidbrennan5 thinking the same thing
This person I know has family members at the top of the Town council. Can pull stings, put up obsticles for housing and businesses. To their advantage and stay wealthy.
That's usually what happens. Kiss ass is how it works.
Obviously, not anymore!
Remember the dozer
Exactly
A tiny steel cable is a lock? That isn't going to keep anyone out and no court can prevent me from entering my own property.
Gen15 no but steel bars would after you are arrested for removing locks from the fire department
fire department has no jurisdiction over that gate
smithwez1101 the fire department locks are KNOX locks. They allow the fire department to enter in an emergency. Next time you walk up to a commercial property look for a brown box about 2 inch square with a flip up door near the front door. The fire department have keys to that box which contains keys to the building so if there is a fire alarm and they need entry they don't have to resort to destructive entry methods (busting glass, busting in a door)
Personally, I'd just knock the pins out of the hinges of the gate, then pivot the gate around the lock cables. Nothing broken, so no charges.
Vandalism, and Illegal Access...
Don't worry, you'll never hear of this again, never see an update, just half the story
the glories of youtube!
I've been waiting 5 years to find out what happened, please tell us!!
The couple ultimately lost.
Another road was built to access the storage units.
People should mind their own business!
So why didn't we speak to the neighbors that did complain??
How much traffic could a storage unit have anyways??? What people complain about its rediculous
Righto - looked like only a half dozen
Tax that’s what the issue is. The township doesn’t get to tax the business
there is another way in. Bolt Cutters
But that would be illegal !
there is another way, they need to install a road in the town ship zoned light industrial, Said it has to go through a ditch and would be costly. I cant see it costing that much. I would go ahead and get it done at this point.
That's about right. Run business out of the county.
That's America for you folks
A property zoned for light industrial opens the literal definition of a light industrial business. Neighbors don't like it, and shut it down. Amazing.
So...? Why not report after the meeting and the outcome?
Why didn't WDTNTV wait until the outcome of the meeting before publishing this video this was just a rehash over old news not a proper update with a result WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH
Key issue at hand, the township was not gaining tax revenue on the business entered via their community. So to offset the losses they'll get some income through the fees charged to seek a variance.
Supreme Court if they even work anymore !
Real simple. ....start a 3rd shifr only self ran vary LOUD industrial business. ..like siren building or rock crushing or both....problem solved. ....neighbors will love storage after all.
i grew up there, very nearby. he must have pissed off part of Clearcreek Twp. and Springboro's old boy network.
The problem there is the same everywhere: government bureaucrats who've never had a real job.
This is example of governmental corruption
THE BIG PROBLEM IS THAT THE CITY HAS LOCK A MANS GATE ON HIS OWN PROPERTY. THAT IS NOT RIGHT.
Consulting with the neighbours should be part of the approval process. If the locals complained after the approval then the town should ignore them
People need to mind their own business, what a bunch of a-holes
Some one got mad they were making money
Jealous neighbors are the main problem. Some hateful people they are.
See why should government decide what your doing on your own property as long as your paying taxes? This is the result of government with nothing to do that needs to be downsized.
Pave it, set early evening stop time, like...6pm.
Two things should be done. One he should be told he can't expand the location but he is allowed to use what he has now. Secondly he may use his drive way for commerical use, maybe with some limitations. Maybe hour limits, say 6AM to 9 PM? Also maybe encourage all the clients to use it as little as possible because of the neighbors...and I mean I would say thats faier.
Or be required to keep the gravel wet. That's what we had to do on our lot to keep the neighbors happy.
Why would you by land in two adjoining counties anyway? When the property was bought, you knew that one half the property was zoned commercial and the other zoned residential. The placement of the business tells all. It was built on the piece of property zoned commercial. The problem lies in the fact that access too the business is thru the residential portion of the property meaning there is no access from the commercial side.
Cut off the lock and sue the township for trespassing, vandilism, and loss of wages.
People complaining should have to prove the complaint is valid with physical proof.
'As probably the closest person to any activity, doesn't bother you?'
Howard: 'Doesn't bother me...just those cars in the morning, few cars in the evening, that was about it'
'For nearly four years, Howard Polly has been renting the house on this property off Petty Royal Rd, so he's seen it during busy, and now quiet times.'
'Now we're told neighbors have complained about dust, and traffic, but again, Howard Polly, the one living closest to the driveway and the storage facility, isn't one of them."
Neighbors. *sigh*.
In my city in Canada, a mansion owner would share his good fortune by letting a religious group hold meetings once evening a week on weekends in a large, opulent, room in his basement. Some neighbor(s) complained about just the cars coming and going, so he was driven by the city to end the meetings.
So, originally he took the word of a government employee without it being on paper ?
Probably someone's brother, or other relation has a competitive business,
This an easy way to eliminate the competition.
Pave the driveway.
More Govt overreach.. they love to feel important and necessary…
Someone reported that the business owner bought a bulldozer and locked himself in the business....at night all anyone hears is a bunch of welding and hammering...sounds like he found a hobby to keep his mind off all the townsfolk who have a vendetta against him.
Jesus Christ - a simple solution is to have him pave the damn driveway (no more dust) and to limit the traffic to certain business hours (no more risk to children). WOW.
Killdozer might need to be resurrected
Create a bitumen road to the front gate of the business, no dust
Sounds like somebody's out to do an Eminent domain land grab
Always get permits. 🤔
Is the Township paying the taxes ? Since the Township has socialistically kept this man from using his own property ?
Most states have a right to access law where even if you do not own the ground the drive is on, you cannot be denied access. Evidently this state does not.
What does the fire department say about fire engine and/or ambulance access. For me, bolt cutters to the rescue! 🚒🚑🚓💣. 🐻🇺🇸
There was a close up shot of the locks, they were on in such a way that unlocking
any of the locks would get the gate open. The fire department had their own lock
and key.
The squeaky wheel always gets the grease!
If your neighbors have a problem with you they can call the lawn dogs and they will shut you down..... take you to court cost you thousands of dollars to fight and fines. Government is always the problem because they are there to back people that want to cause you grief! Been there and done all of this for at least 20 years now. Horrible!
Regardless of the fact that someone at the county was originally mistaken, this guy knowingly decided to run commercial business traffic through a private driveway in a residential zone in one county to a commercial zone in a different county. He was trying to defeat the entire purpose of the zoning. He can still use the commercial property for business, but needs an entrance from the county where it is zoned as commercial. It's very likely that's the reason he was able to afford the odd properties to begin with, and now he's mad that his original scheme has fallen apart.
Also, the one neighbor who is currently _renting_ nearby doesn't matter in this situation. That's not the point about what the property owner in question is trying to do.
A black top driveway solves the dust issue and a fence would solve the safety issue.....problem solved
oh and so what was the outcome?
They got a variance. Back in business.
nice
A conditional variance was granted, but the court found that the conditional variance was impermissible. The zoning board denied an unconditional use variance.
ChristophProbst The mistake might have been suing them in a County Court, they should have sued in a Federal Court. The good Ole boy system, doesn't work in federal court, because you have a judge who is going to look at the facts, and be unbiased to the situation. Not saying they are not biased when it comes to checks on the president, but they are unbiased since this will be the first they hear of this story.
Can’t run a business like this to be in a residential zone.
Wrong
Need to Sue
Simple, cut the posts off! Let the township fix it!
I wonder who, in the zoning departments have a vendetta against this family. Sounds like a complete abuse of power with certain people in their municipality. If I had property stored in there, nothing besides a bullet would prevent me from accessing my stuff, simple as that.
The "neighbors" are probably just some old hens who have nothing better to do but stare out their window and complain to the town hall because they are no lifers.
Bloody snobby neighbours..........what a joke...sue the councils .....
How do America's scream freedom over masks but this is allowed to stand
It's his land,. I'd tell them to piss off and put up no trespassing signs. One of the county comes to cause problems I'd have him charged with criminal trespassing
Man's got some real jerk neighbors.
if it is the DUST that is the problem have the driveway paved
what do you what a big ass ugly boat on the side of the road for stored away
Having the traffic for a commercial facility enter through a residential neighborhood is just like having the commercial business in the residential neighborhood. It's a valid complaint and he should have seen it coming. The only option is to have an entrance from the commercially zoned area. Tough break but hardly difficult to predict.
Gosh I feel sorry for this guy...yup...sue the dude who allowed the guy to build the sheds. This is just so unfair.
he sure sue the township for lying cuz they give him a approval & then take it away that wrong & sure be against the law a town or city cant give approval someone then months or so later take it away & lock the place up that a federal crime that the township did i think & who ever did it sure be arrest & charged
Howard Pauley, that might be my uncle....
There are solutions to the dust problem.
Evil self serving neighbors want to ruin their own neighbor.
what happened?
cherry picking your argument there....
Telling me you couldn't just make a new entrance
Dang Karen’s nothing else better to do, seeing some one else making money and this happens, why don’t they bring the person or person’s out to see if’s a legitimate complaint, Maybe some but hurt over losing business
The town ship didn’t do good they the one who stopping from a person from doing business
1:27 lol bolt cutters
﴿﴾
Some neighbors can be real Aholes! This has all happened because bad neighbors don’t want to see a little dust. I guess they don’t realize that the air they breath is also full of dust. Some people... geeze.
Land of the free... My ass.
Make the driveway up to his gate into a road
I would have cut that damn fence down.
Jealousy?
🤔😵😲🤪
I hate people so, so much.
What a stupid update. You wanted to make this 3 vidoes
This must be in America because where I live. if you live in a condustrial zoned area and complain the township tells you that you live in a condustrial zoned area and to expect things like that to be there. But I guess legitimate businesses being allowed to stay open as legitimate businesses when make too much sense "for the land of the free"
Seems about white
shit like this started killdozer
lame
Only in America shit like this happens.
No Communist countries do this.
Call trump