Doing sterling work Peter, don’t let it defeat you. On your differences between groups in our small community, I think the difference is : (a) model assembler those who will build a kit (mainly Tamiya) that doesn’t require fetling and then get the enjoyment from painting to perfect detail. (B) model builder who will construct, correct, scratch enjoying the process of creating an as perfect replica, but paint is paint get it looking ok and move to the next. What we could almost do with is an alliance where the builders build and the assemblers paint.
another great Video Peter, considering how much Airfix I do I never got any coffee! anyhow interesting thoughts on different type of modellers, I may have given up on your Harrier
Great Comments...I don't think I ever hear a kit review that wasn't good when reviewers open the box...but very few finally build the kit then report on the actual build...thank you for your honesty Peter.
Once again, another great video. After watching this, I won't be buying any Kinetic Harrier kits. I will just wait for Airfix to bring out a 1/48 Harrier. Enjoy the rest of your build 😆😆. Look forward to your next video.
@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab Unfortunately, I don't have your skills to build a difficult kit as yours. You have the passion and patience to see it through.
I feel with you, Peter, having just battled, swore and sweated my way through the Kitty Hawk 1/48 Dauphin II, a ridiculously over-engineered kit with plenty of fit issues. But, Hallelujah! I'm now well on my way with the Airfix 1/48 Hunter f.6. What a beauty of a kit! Great tooling, and the fit is amazing. I now can't wait to get to my bench. Your proposed options all sound good. I wish you many very happy bench hours!
Hi Peter, I really enjoy your reviews, especially the Matchbox kits. I am currently building the Revell 1/72 He177 A-5 and the Matchbox 1/76 Churchill AVRE. Keep up the great work on your channel. Cheers! Jason.
If you really want a mojo-builder after your current Kinetic experiences, then the 1/48 Tamiya F-35A would do the trick! This really is so well engineered that the parts just fall together.... There is a lot of intricate, fiddly painting to do in the weapons bay and undercarriage bays, and depending on the version you go for, there could be a lot of fiddly decal/transfer application (I got a RAF Lakenheath decal set from Hannants to use, so most of that fiddly RAM tape isn't needed!). However, the quality of engineering and fit of the parts is second-to-none; it's not quite that "shake 'n bake" meme, but, you won't need any filler.... 😉 I'm progressing nicely with it, after giving up in disgust at the relatively 'new' Italeri 1/48 F-15E (which comes supplied with Lakenheath markings, which is what attracted me to the kit in the first place).... The kit is a pig! 😡 Hardly any two parts fit properly! There are few location points, and where there are, they don't align, and the upper fuselage half is shorter than the lower!! The angles cut into parts where they butt together aren't matching, so they don't align - and if you sand them to match-up, then the pieces just don't line up at all!! Even the ejector seats are a pain to align/fit, and the instructions are 'vague' on almost ever point of contact of any part of the kit! Forty-odd quid wasted on a kit that looks like it was made by half a different [not model] manufacturers with rather vague directions and dimensions, that are then stuffed into a box for resale...... Avoid this one if you ever feel see it and feel tempted! 😆
I just watched the video on you the creator on modelkitstuff channel it was great to learn more about you I love your videos I think you do the best model reviews on utube your humor is great I hope you review the new helicopters that are coming out Tacom and meng
Hi Peter, you may find that 801 cold nozzles were painted DSG, however the hot nozzles (the aft set) were in burnt titanium. An over zealous engineering department painted the cold nozzles.
Thanks Ian, I did actually see a photo today that showed that too, though in most photos, you just can't see them. I haven't painted yet, so your advice is well timed, cheers! 👍🏻
I worked on the real ones of these and I smile. Not many people can say they have heard a sidewinder growling with lock on during testing it’s well nervy! Well done with the gun pods you fitted the handles, normally the bombheads would misalign the rear fairing to the main gun pod body and kick the rear fairing at the back and make four new holes for the spigots, also the link splitter would fail and when the aircraft landed a load of unlinked links would flay around in the airstream and damage the fuselage.
Happy new year! Highly recognizable frustrations. As I ' build' the Kinetic 1/48 A-6A/E Intruder last year I dare to argue that is even worse. Ludicrous instructions, poor fits and consequent filling, sanding and improvising. It's cherry on the cake is a canopy made out of 4 clear non fitting parts. Complete horror story. The only good things that came from it were me learning to fill and sand even more and better. And after finishing it, I rewarded myself with Tamiya's pitch perfect fitting 1/48 F-4B (which also has some challenges but within tolerances).
Sir Peter of Oxley! Welcome to 2023 sir!! Good to see you "on the air" again 🙂 Sorry about the spot of bother you are experiencing with the Harrier. Perhaps a state-of-the-art Tamiya kit will lift your spirits! Look forward to your next post, be seeing you #6!
Nice to have you back and your most welcome 😂 must say looks like you have had a hard time, glad it wasn’t me because l’m not a rebuilder so that would have done me but it will look the part us guys out here are sure 👍 so the Corsair sounds good but the P38 would too so how about doing the P38 and then the Mosquito in September 🙏 so been trying to paint the tracks for my ITALERI Crusader III for the last 40 min so been shaking life out of the paint happy modelling
Hi Peter. sometimes figuring out the errors in manual can also be fun. it’s like doing some police work to put the puzzle together. by the way i like your shirt. very colorful. and i’ve always wondered why you have so many lamps on the table.
Cheers Jason, yes...I think it's got to happen, I got all the bits I need including guns and seat belts, instruments etc. I know I would have a great time...expect to see more on this later in the year. 👍🏻😄
Good to have you back, Peter. It has to be the Mosquito, surely? A gorgeous aircraft that would be a joy to bring out of the cabinet whenever it needs dusting 😂
Great vid Peter and glad to see you back. Happy New year!! 🤣 Wow, can't believe you have to drill the gun vents and saw the wings for the PE etc... not a kit for me. Happy with the Airfix 1/72 FRS.1 I built. It's on a stand with a Argentinian Skyhawk as a Falklands tribute. Looking forward to more vids and also attending the South West model show at Bovington on Saturday. Take care 👍
Hi Peter Really really got me thinking about this, as I haven't finished a model for some time but the italeri 1/32 tornado GR1 I do enjoy hacking it about as I worked on them in the past and the wheel bays and cockpit are beautifully detailed.
Hi Peter. Sprue Goo made with styrene sheet is very soft, takes time to dry and doesn't set very hard. That's because of all the pigment in the styrene sheet to make it white. Contrary to popular belief, styrene sheet is not 'pure styrene' far from it. Try making some with clear sprue. (no pigments in the styrene so it is a 'pure' as you are going to get). Add a tiny drop of lacquer paint to it so you can see it when you're using it. It sets quicker and harder than when you use styrene sheet and is especially good to use in areas where you will need to replace lost detail. Panel lines etc.
Thank Ivan. Though I moved to styrene as I found true 'Spruegoo' made with grey sprue (Even Tamiya) seems to shrink badly once set. Buy I will try the clear and see how that goes. Cheers. 👍🏻
No worries guy :) BTW- thats good for all concerned to drop a reference to Phil and Co at the Hobby Group membership/chat/video scene. :) DennisTISAC from USA says Hello to your fellow group chatters- I cant get to the Thursday chats and such due to my work time here at HAECO AMERICAS in N Carolina, but I do hop to get back to things, including my membership now that my bank has given me ANOTHER new Debit/check card to update for Phils' info for updating my membership and recurring pymnts. etc. :)
My bad- Peter... I didn't include your name there :) If you want to REALLY see something a bit overwhelming you should see my stash in a storage unit here in GBoro NC. :) OH BOY!! I'm not going to live long enough to build all these :) Anyone need a P-51 Mustang 48 scale?? 72 Scale?? I got 'em, Brother :)
Good to have you back Peter. I enjoyed your guest appearance on Model Kit Stuff. Well you have been through the wars with that Kinetic kit have you not? I have never tried a Kinetic kit but after hearing your trials and tribulations I'm not sure I'm too keen now! (Are they all as bad?). That Tamiya F35 you reviewed after Xmas will help you put that Kinetic nightmare behind you.
I trashed mine about half way through so it's good to see that you've persevered! I'd kill for a large scale, modern tooled FRS1 kit, but fear that it's just too "niche" for most mainstream manufacturers. Maybe we could persuade Airfix to re-visit the subject?🤔
We are wroking on them...there is a live chat with them on Weds 22nd at 6pm, where you can request future projects, check our the Airfix TH-cam channel
Peter modelling is a hobby which according to the dictionary is an activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure. Open the box on a brand you enjoy and go for it. How about a wingnut wings junkers d1, if you have it, minimum rigging!
Hi Peter Love the channel but a couple of points/suggestions. The Takom Sea Dart/Sea Wolf goes together well. However for you a mojo build would be a Matchbox kit. I know this is heresy but I like the Airfix Vintage Classics they are cheap and I don't count the rivets but they are done in a weekend. In the time you have taken with the Kinetic kit how many others could you have enjoyed building. Just a thought.
I built Kinetic’s Mirage IIIO recently. The instructions cover sheet is oriented in portrait like yours, but all other pages in between were portrait....but printed in landscape! As a result, the top third of each page was missing. I bought the same kit again (wanted to build a French polished airframe) and the instructions were printed with the same fault! No real errors in the instructions themselves apart from Australian pylon choices, but I had to download them from Scalemates to be able to read them. For a AU$80 kit, that’s unacceptable. The Kinetic Mirage outer wings don’t fit too well to the bottom halves, but everything about their F-104 kit is wonderful.
I hear good things about the Eduard Zero...and the Tamiya P-38 Lightning....and the Tamiya 1:32 Mosquito. I’d go against popular opinion and say AVOID the Tamiya F-35A Lightning II. I worked on the real things for a couple of years: Nothing interesting on the outside. I built the Meng version and it very nearly emulated taking temazepam. Put me to sleep. BORING subject matter regardless of ease of build. Grey. Flat. Bland. More grey. More flat facets. More blandness. The real thing’s incredible but...Build anything else. But you know you’ll love the Mosquito build. Life’s too short to keep putting it off. I’m into the new Vulcan. It’s my FRS1 so far.
Yes and no. The first thing you do after cutting the nose halves off the sprue? Offer them up to each other. They either join at the nose or behind the seats.. Not both. It’s only after you locate the nose-weight section in between that they join well. I’m finding that with everything so far. If everything’s not in place, you’ll not get a good join. Some of it’s sublime, but I’m not advanced in the build enough to say one way or the other definitively. But I’m enjoying it nonetheless with it’s Big Ed set.
Built the marine harrier from kinetic in December. Even got the Eduard upgrade pieces for it. Definitely had issues. Colour and decal scheme was impossible to read. Just to dark. Instructions just to dark. Ya you have to guess. But. After a beer I was like. I’ve built several 3000 to 5000 40k armies. Screw I’ll have fun with it. Did what I could had fun with it and it looks pretty good. Wifie got me a leopard 2 from tamiya for Christmas and well. I was very happy to get into that kit. Lol
Depends on when you built models. If one did so before the advent of the models made from the 90's onward, you were a builder. A lot more had to be done in the old days.... Now one is more of an assembler.
Hi Peter another brilliant watch sorry but I almost laughed out loud when you nearly vented your frustration by throwing the Harrier out the door I had a very similar episode with a Meng Merkave last year nothing would go right during the build didn’t help that I had watched a couple of builds on TH-cam and everyones went together perfectly eventually gave up it’s in the middle of the stash somewhere keep up the good work
Hi mate I have about 10 kinetic kits and to be honest they are the same as you've commented on , they just go to the back of my stash now and I never thought I would say this in my lifetime but aswell as icm the new airfix are more enjoyable to build and that's what stick to now
Has to be the Tomcat/Zero diorama Peter - unique and fun! Steve at 'The Model Shed' did a great build series on the 1/32 Mossie; interesting to look at how it went together for him. On a selfish basis, there are masses of 109, Corsair, P-38 etc builds on YT. Both the Sheridan and the Bronco would be a nice change.
Some times a kit just wants to fight back. I've had a similar journey with the GWH MiG-29 for the 1/48 SIG. It's always frustrating when the kit has great levels of detail, but the engineering and parts fit just doesn't work very well, and eventually you find you're just going through the motions to get the thing finished without the enthusiasm for it. I'm looking forward to getting back to a mojo building kit after that one's over the finish line (something without half a million decals, for starters). I suppose on the flip side, when you finish a really challenging, frustrating kit build, whatever follows might feel like a doddle by comparison 😁
@@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab it's a knife with a difference though; the blade doesn't fit the handle, and the blade itself is made of horrendously shaped PE that just wont play nicely 😁
Yes I shoud really get it done...If I was suddenly on my deathbed, not building that kit would be one of my greatest regrets. Its the best kit in the stash... maybe this autumn is a real possibility. 👍🏻
If you need a quick, fun mojo build Peter then don't look past the Eduard Zero - it is an absolutely beautiful kit and just fell together, especially once I got the slightly fiddly cockpit together! Lots of lovely detail and quite simple to paint and weather too if they're Pearl Harbor ones!
I forgot to say: When I spoke of others doing a superb job and "Earning their spurs", you were very much in mind. Very well done with your own Kinetic SHAR, it looked a masterpiece. 😍👍🏻
Kits produced today rely exclusively on CAD design with no build up outside the computer. In the past quality control was stronger.....because they didn't depend on computer renderings. Instruction sheet errors fall into non native speakers making them.
This year I am mostly building my Swedish kits. I'm not sure about the Matchbox PK-131 SAAB Viggen SK.37 though, since it is in cellophane. If anyone wants it etc. or I may just keep it as an ornament. Other than lots of SAAB, I've got a Red Arrows Gnat, Italeri Tornado (like the old Airfix one if it had recessed panel lines) and another Revell Tornado GR.1. I'll probaby knock together a Delat Dart from Hassegawa too. Thats the plan at least.
I have found some of the poorly formed kits to be the most rewarding because they require ingenuity in construction, or better, reconstruction, and if the result is a disaster then I have no difficulty disposing them into the rubbish bin.
Kinetic were quite poor in their first few years. I was hugely disapointed with their Mirage III and 2000. (Someone needs to do a high standard tooling of the Mirage family) However have to say that since they have launched their gold range, Kinetic kits have being superb. The F 104 is an incredible kit .
Peter I think you have to build the tamiya mosquito, if you do not build it now when will you, as you say you really want to and it will certainly be a lovely kit, my view is build hte kits I want to and enjoy or they wil sit in the box and before I know it I wont be able to build them
I do know what you mean...it can feel competitve and one can be put off by that. But it was ever thus with some of the modelling magazines too...just ignore it and enjoy the fun of building kits: Maybe buy some older ones you did when much younger and enjoy them again? 👍🏻
After a gruelling build it’s good for the mojo to try something completely different. I suggest the Tamiya Sheridan which should be an enjoyable build 🤞
I really believe Kinetic’s philosophy is “take the money and run”. I’ve unfortunately built one kit thus far, their MQ-9 UAV Reaper. Fit and finish was amazing well in some areas but in others it’s as if you were building two kits the same subject but from different manufacturers. And the instructions were THE (for me) absolute worst. I had to constantly guess what parts and where they went half the time. Virtually none of the numbers matched the actual part. Kinetic has best get their act together. In the year 2023 no excuse for it other than a “we don’t care, we’ve got your money” attitude.
If you take something. that has already been engineered into the final shape and your primary job is to apply glue, then you are an assembler or model builder. Neither modeller will do anything significant to the model beyond some detailing or minor scratch building. If you start with a lump of wood, styrofoam, plastic sheet, brass etc and an idea in your head, like my dad use to, you are a model maker. Whatever you do, if you are having fun, it doesn't really matter which category you are in.
Kinetic Gold series are way better- the F-104s are good, Ive build several. The earlier kits, great subjects, but poor fit and instructions as you say.
Seriously?? I built the Kinetic Starfire (their first kit) and while it was not Tamigawa it was easy enough to produce an acceptable model. If you want a real challenge try the Special Hobby Albacore or their Mil Mi-1 Hare. Hard work but a much greater sense of achievement when your friends at the local IPMS club praise the result. And no I am not a champion builder, in fact I have only ever entered one show competition; I feel confident enough to display my builds on the club stand at shows and am happy with that. I don't make a song and dance about bad instructions or complain about a bit of fettling, filling and sanding, I just try to rise to the challenges, as best I can, as they present themselves. I take your point about first time builders but building Tamiya standard kits ALL the time would be boring and would not do anything to improve one's model building skills.
It should be fine however, most cases it’s not rushing when you pay the amount of money a paying for these kids these days and they go together like dog shit
We missed you.
Welcome back.
Another Outstanding video and presentation.
Nice kit build.
How about the Airfix Sea King. Great little build and were used in the Falklands
Doing sterling work Peter, don’t let it defeat you.
On your differences between groups in our small community, I think the difference is :
(a) model assembler those who will build a kit (mainly Tamiya) that doesn’t require fetling and then get the enjoyment from painting to perfect detail.
(B) model builder who will construct, correct, scratch enjoying the process of creating an as perfect replica, but paint is paint get it looking ok and move to the next.
What we could almost do with is an alliance where the builders build and the assemblers paint.
Lol ! 😆 Sounds like a good plan Mark! 👍🏻
another great Video Peter, considering how much Airfix I do I never got any coffee! anyhow interesting thoughts on different type of modellers, I may have given up on your Harrier
Lol, Jason, Yes, and I was rather lukewarm on their 1/24 Spitfire too! Perhaps they sent yours to me by mistake? 😂
Certainly is good to see you again.
Great Comments...I don't think I ever hear a kit review that wasn't good when reviewers open the box...but very few finally build the kit then report on the actual build...thank you for your honesty Peter.
Great to see you back Peter. Always look forward to and enjoy your videos. Both entertaining and informative. Please keep them coming!
Once again, another great video. After watching this, I won't be buying any Kinetic Harrier kits. I will just wait for Airfix to bring out a 1/48 Harrier. Enjoy the rest of your build 😆😆. Look forward to your next video.
Thanks Mark...My pain = Your gain! 😆
@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab Unfortunately, I don't have your skills to build a difficult kit as yours. You have the passion and patience to see it through.
I feel with you, Peter, having just battled, swore and sweated my way through the Kitty Hawk 1/48 Dauphin II, a ridiculously over-engineered kit with plenty of fit issues. But, Hallelujah! I'm now well on my way with the Airfix 1/48 Hunter f.6. What a beauty of a kit! Great tooling, and the fit is amazing. I now can't wait to get to my bench. Your proposed options all sound good. I wish you many very happy bench hours!
Hi Peter, I really enjoy your reviews, especially the Matchbox kits. I am currently building the Revell 1/72 He177 A-5 and the Matchbox 1/76 Churchill AVRE. Keep up the great work on your channel. Cheers! Jason.
Thanks Jason! 😊
If you really want a mojo-builder after your current Kinetic experiences, then the 1/48 Tamiya F-35A would do the trick!
This really is so well engineered that the parts just fall together.... There is a lot of intricate, fiddly painting to do in the weapons bay and undercarriage bays, and depending on the version you go for, there could be a lot of fiddly decal/transfer application (I got a RAF Lakenheath decal set from Hannants to use, so most of that fiddly RAM tape isn't needed!).
However, the quality of engineering and fit of the parts is second-to-none; it's not quite that "shake 'n bake" meme, but, you won't need any filler.... 😉
I'm progressing nicely with it, after giving up in disgust at the relatively 'new' Italeri 1/48 F-15E (which comes supplied with Lakenheath markings, which is what attracted me to the kit in the first place)....
The kit is a pig! 😡
Hardly any two parts fit properly! There are few location points, and where there are, they don't align, and the upper fuselage half is shorter than the lower!! The angles cut into parts where they butt together aren't matching, so they don't align - and if you sand them to match-up, then the pieces just don't line up at all!!
Even the ejector seats are a pain to align/fit, and the instructions are 'vague' on almost ever point of contact of any part of the kit!
Forty-odd quid wasted on a kit that looks like it was made by half a different [not model] manufacturers with rather vague directions and dimensions, that are then stuffed into a box for resale......
Avoid this one if you ever feel see it and feel tempted! 😆
Steve, are you the Devil? 😈 Tempting me with such irresistable ideas. 👍🏻 I got that kit for Xmas too...Hmmm...the temptation! 😆
And the earlier Testors/Italeri Raptor kit is a non starter- with panel lines improperly arranged etc. :(
I just watched the video on you the creator on modelkitstuff channel it was great to learn more about you I love your videos I think you do the best model reviews on utube your humor is great I hope you review the new helicopters that are coming out Tacom and meng
Awesome! Thank you!
Hi Peter, you may find that 801 cold nozzles were painted DSG, however the hot nozzles (the aft set) were in burnt titanium. An over zealous engineering department painted the cold nozzles.
Thanks Ian, I did actually see a photo today that showed that too, though in most photos, you just can't see them. I haven't painted yet, so your advice is well timed, cheers! 👍🏻
@@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab no worries, although I wasn’t on the Invincible at that time, I do have a mate who was on 801 in 82.
Hi Peter. Loving your channel. I've just finished the Tamiya Tomcat and built the Eduard Zero last year. Both were an absolute joy to build
Thanks Chris...that is good news! I will probably have a crack at them later this year. 👍🏻
I worked on the real ones of these and I smile. Not many people can say they have heard a sidewinder growling with lock on during testing it’s well nervy! Well done with the gun pods you fitted the handles, normally the bombheads would misalign the rear fairing to the main gun pod body and kick the rear fairing at the back and make four new holes for the spigots, also the link splitter would fail and when the aircraft landed a load of unlinked links would flay around in the airstream and damage the fuselage.
Thanks! 😊 & That background is fascinating. Cheers. 👍🏻
Interesting episode, I'm wondering what are and where you purchased the lamps, looking to get some lighting for my benches.
Thanks David 👍🏻 The lights are lightcraft lamps, bought from Ebay and Hobbycraft in the UK. 👍🏻
Happy new year! Highly recognizable frustrations. As I ' build' the Kinetic 1/48 A-6A/E Intruder last year I dare to argue that is even worse. Ludicrous instructions, poor fits and consequent filling, sanding and improvising. It's cherry on the cake is a canopy made out of 4 clear non fitting parts. Complete horror story. The only good things that came from it were me learning to fill and sand even more and better. And after finishing it, I rewarded myself with Tamiya's pitch perfect fitting 1/48 F-4B (which also has some challenges but within tolerances).
Sir Peter of Oxley! Welcome to 2023 sir!! Good to see you "on the air" again 🙂 Sorry about the spot of bother you are experiencing with the Harrier. Perhaps a state-of-the-art Tamiya kit will lift your spirits! Look forward to your next post, be seeing you #6!
Nice to have you back and your most welcome 😂 must say looks like you have had a hard time, glad it wasn’t me because l’m not a rebuilder so that would have done me but it will look the part us guys out here are sure 👍 so the Corsair sounds good but the P38 would too so how about doing the P38 and then the Mosquito in September 🙏 so been trying to paint the tracks for my ITALERI Crusader III for the last 40 min so been shaking life out of the paint happy modelling
Hi Peter. sometimes figuring out the errors in manual can also be fun. it’s like doing some police work to put the puzzle together. by the way i like your shirt. very colorful. and i’ve always wondered why you have so many lamps on the table.
1/32 Mossy, you have to build it, its a loverly kit mine is a shelf queen with the eduard upgrades, but what I built was great
Cheers Jason, yes...I think it's got to happen, I got all the bits I need including guns and seat belts, instruments etc. I know I would have a great time...expect to see more on this later in the year. 👍🏻😄
Good to have you back, Peter. It has to be the Mosquito, surely? A gorgeous aircraft that would be a joy to bring out of the cabinet whenever it needs dusting 😂
It certainly is getting the most votes and who am I to resist? 😂
Definitely to get your mojo back it's got to be the new Tamiya 1/48 F35a Lightning II
Great vid Peter and glad to see you back. Happy New year!! 🤣
Wow, can't believe you have to drill the gun vents and saw the wings for the PE etc... not a kit for me. Happy with the Airfix 1/72 FRS.1 I built. It's on a stand with a Argentinian Skyhawk as a Falklands tribute.
Looking forward to more vids and also attending the South West model show at Bovington on Saturday.
Take care 👍
Cheers Chris! 👍🏻
Hi Peter
Really really got me thinking about this, as I haven't finished a model for some time but the italeri 1/32 tornado GR1 I do enjoy hacking it about as I worked on them in the past and the wheel bays and cockpit are beautifully detailed.
Nice kit that one...just a bit overpriced when it first came out. More sensible now.
Hi Peter. Sprue Goo made with styrene sheet is very soft, takes time to dry and doesn't set very hard. That's because of all the pigment in the styrene sheet to make it white. Contrary to popular belief, styrene sheet is not 'pure styrene' far from it. Try making some with clear sprue. (no pigments in the styrene so it is a 'pure' as you are going to get). Add a tiny drop of lacquer paint to it so you can see it when you're using it. It sets quicker and harder than when you use styrene sheet and is especially good to use in areas where you will need to replace lost detail. Panel lines etc.
Thank Ivan. Though I moved to styrene as I found true 'Spruegoo' made with grey sprue (Even Tamiya) seems to shrink badly once set. Buy I will try the clear and see how that goes. Cheers. 👍🏻
If you use stretched sprue to fill gaps, etc on your models make it from leftover trees from what you are building. It will glue and sand the same...
@@alantoon5708 Yes Alan, good point, that would make the plastic more homogenous with the kit material. 👍🏻
Another way of asking the question could be: Are they really model kit manufacturers or just injection moulders?
No worries guy :) BTW- thats good for all concerned to drop a reference to Phil and Co at the Hobby Group membership/chat/video scene. :) DennisTISAC from USA says Hello to your fellow group chatters- I cant get to the Thursday chats and such due to my work time here at HAECO AMERICAS in N Carolina, but I do hop to get back to things, including my membership now that my bank has given me ANOTHER new Debit/check card to update for Phils' info for updating my membership and recurring pymnts. etc. :)
My bad- Peter... I didn't include your name there :) If you want to REALLY see something a bit overwhelming you should see my stash in a storage unit here in GBoro NC. :) OH BOY!! I'm not going to live long enough to build all these :) Anyone need a P-51 Mustang 48 scale?? 72 Scale?? I got 'em, Brother :)
Remember too- Buying Chinese kits such as Kinetic helps to fund the CCP and the PLA. Not friends in any way of Freedom :(
Peter. This was a fun video to watch, Most enjoyable. If Victor Meldrew did modeling....lol
I just "Don't believe it!" 😩
Good to have you back Peter. I enjoyed your guest appearance on Model Kit Stuff. Well you have been through the wars with that Kinetic kit have you not? I have never tried a Kinetic kit but after hearing your trials and tribulations I'm not sure I'm too keen now! (Are they all as bad?). That Tamiya F35 you reviewed after Xmas will help you put that Kinetic nightmare behind you.
I trashed mine about half way through so it's good to see that you've persevered! I'd kill for a large scale, modern tooled FRS1 kit, but fear that it's just too "niche" for most mainstream manufacturers. Maybe we could persuade Airfix to re-visit the subject?🤔
We are wroking on them...there is a live chat with them on Weds 22nd at 6pm, where you can request future projects, check our the Airfix TH-cam channel
@@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab Fantastic, thanks Peter, I'm on it!
Peter modelling is a hobby which according to the dictionary is an activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure. Open the box on a brand you enjoy and go for it. How about a wingnut wings junkers d1, if you have it, minimum rigging!
Hi Peter
Love the channel but a couple of points/suggestions.
The Takom Sea Dart/Sea Wolf goes together well.
However for you a mojo build would be a Matchbox kit.
I know this is heresy but I like the Airfix Vintage Classics they are cheap and I don't count the rivets but they are done in a weekend. In the time you have taken with the Kinetic kit how many others could you have enjoyed building.
Just a thought.
Yes, fair points there... I think I will do the Sea Dart. Thanks for your support. 😃👍🏻
10:15 - well, to be fair, if you knew part number, then there is only one possible orientation. So, error in my opinion is in misprint of part number.
Hi Peter, your Harrier is a tripple A kit compared to my Trumpeter 1:32 MiG 15 I suffer from the last 6 month...
I built Kinetic’s Mirage IIIO recently. The instructions cover sheet is oriented in portrait like yours, but all other pages in between were portrait....but printed in landscape! As a result, the top third of each page was missing. I bought the same kit again (wanted to build a French polished airframe) and the instructions were printed with the same fault! No real errors in the instructions themselves apart from Australian pylon choices, but I had to download them from Scalemates to be able to read them. For a AU$80 kit, that’s unacceptable. The Kinetic Mirage outer wings don’t fit too well to the bottom halves, but everything about their F-104 kit is wonderful.
Thanks John, yes everbody seems to say the 104 is their best kit?
I hear good things about the Eduard Zero...and the Tamiya P-38 Lightning....and the Tamiya 1:32 Mosquito. I’d go against popular opinion and say AVOID the Tamiya F-35A Lightning II. I worked on the real things for a couple of years: Nothing interesting on the outside. I built the Meng version and it very nearly emulated taking temazepam. Put me to sleep. BORING subject matter regardless of ease of build. Grey. Flat. Bland. More grey. More flat facets. More blandness. The real thing’s incredible but...Build anything else.
But you know you’ll love the Mosquito build. Life’s too short to keep putting it off. I’m into the new Vulcan. It’s my FRS1 so far.
@@johnmarley6695 Having some problems with the Vulcan John?
Yes and no. The first thing you do after cutting the nose halves off the sprue? Offer them up to each other. They either join at the nose or behind the seats.. Not both. It’s only after you locate the nose-weight section in between that they join well.
I’m finding that with everything so far. If everything’s not in place, you’ll not get a good join. Some of it’s sublime, but I’m not advanced in the build enough to say one way or the other definitively. But I’m enjoying it nonetheless with it’s Big Ed set.
Built the marine harrier from kinetic in December. Even got the Eduard upgrade pieces for it. Definitely had issues. Colour and decal scheme was impossible to read. Just to dark. Instructions just to dark. Ya you have to guess. But. After a beer I was like. I’ve built several 3000 to 5000 40k armies. Screw I’ll have fun with it. Did what I could had fun with it and it looks pretty good. Wifie got me a leopard 2 from tamiya for Christmas and well. I was very happy to get into that kit. Lol
By the appreciation speech I quess you strongly recommend this kit😭😭😭😭😭😭
Lol. NO. 🤣
Depends on when you built models. If one did so before the advent of the models made from the 90's onward, you were a builder. A lot more had to be done in the old days....
Now one is more of an assembler.
Hi Peter another brilliant watch sorry but I almost laughed out loud when you nearly vented your frustration by throwing the Harrier out the door I had a very similar episode with a Meng Merkave last year nothing would go right during the build didn’t help that I had watched a couple of builds on TH-cam and everyones went together perfectly eventually gave up it’s in the middle of the stash somewhere keep up the good work
Hi mate I have about 10 kinetic kits and to be honest they are the same as you've commented on , they just go to the back of my stash now and I never thought I would say this in my lifetime but aswell as icm the new airfix are more enjoyable to build and that's what stick to now
Yeah Buddy, I agree, ICM & Airfix are way better than Kinetic. 👍🏻
Has to be the Tomcat/Zero diorama Peter - unique and fun! Steve at 'The Model Shed' did a great build series on the 1/32 Mossie; interesting to look at how it went together for him. On a selfish basis, there are masses of 109, Corsair, P-38 etc builds on YT. Both the Sheridan and the Bronco would be a nice change.
Some times a kit just wants to fight back. I've had a similar journey with the GWH MiG-29 for the 1/48 SIG. It's always frustrating when the kit has great levels of detail, but the engineering and parts fit just doesn't work very well, and eventually you find you're just going through the motions to get the thing finished without the enthusiasm for it.
I'm looking forward to getting back to a mojo building kit after that one's over the finish line (something without half a million decals, for starters). I suppose on the flip side, when you finish a really challenging, frustrating kit build, whatever follows might feel like a doddle by comparison 😁
You're so right! 👍🏻 But with this one it feels like I thought I was in knife-fight, only to find it's fighting back with Nukes! 😫 🤣
@@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab it's a knife with a difference though; the blade doesn't fit the handle, and the blade itself is made of horrendously shaped PE that just wont play nicely 😁
I vote that you do the Airfix Anson in the scheme of the a/c flying in your area. It seems to me that would be and enjoyable build.
Love the channel Peter . Would love to see the 1/32 Tamiya Mosquito
Yes I shoud really get it done...If I was suddenly on my deathbed, not building that kit would be one of my greatest regrets. Its the best kit in the stash... maybe this autumn is a real possibility. 👍🏻
Assemblers!!
( and all the credit goes to the machinists and dye makers in the machine shops.!!)
Peter For me the Tamiya p-38 lighting a great mojo build
If you need a quick, fun mojo build Peter then don't look past the Eduard Zero - it is an absolutely beautiful kit and just fell together, especially once I got the slightly fiddly cockpit together! Lots of lovely detail and quite simple to paint and weather too if they're Pearl Harbor ones!
Thanks Scott! 👍🏻
I forgot to say: When I spoke of others doing a superb job and "Earning their spurs", you were very much in mind. Very well done with your own Kinetic SHAR, it looked a masterpiece. 😍👍🏻
@@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab Very kind of you to say so Peter, thank you ever so much!
Kits produced today rely exclusively on CAD design with no build up outside the computer. In the past quality control was stronger.....because they didn't depend on computer renderings. Instruction sheet errors fall into non native speakers making them.
It's time to build the Tamiya F-35A, joy to the experience.
Its on my list…but first the Mosquito. 👍🏻
This year I am mostly building my Swedish kits. I'm not sure about the Matchbox PK-131 SAAB Viggen SK.37 though, since it is in cellophane. If anyone wants it etc. or I may just keep it as an ornament.
Other than lots of SAAB, I've got a Red Arrows Gnat, Italeri Tornado (like the old Airfix one if it had recessed panel lines) and another Revell Tornado GR.1. I'll probaby knock together a Delat Dart from Hassegawa too. Thats the plan at least.
How much do you want for it, Robert?
@@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab Whatever you think its worth buddy. + postage of course.
@@Payne2view Hi Robert please drop me an email to: MrMatchboxes@gmail.com (with a photo if poss) and lets talk. 😃👍🏻
@@Peter-Oxley-Modelling-Lab e-mail sent. See what you think.
I have found some of the poorly formed kits to be the most rewarding because they require ingenuity in construction, or better, reconstruction, and if the result is a disaster then I have no difficulty disposing them into the rubbish bin.
Airfix hunter please boss 🙏
Ive always remembered The hangover Our war winning Aces mustave had! Aahahhaha
Kinetic were quite poor in their first few years. I was hugely disapointed with their Mirage III and 2000. (Someone needs to do a high standard tooling of the Mirage family) However have to say that since they have launched their gold range, Kinetic kits have being superb. The F 104 is an incredible kit .
Hmmm the Harrier Gr.3 isn't all that great either. 😕
Lots of assemblers on TH-cam but a handful of builders/ modifiers. Imo
Peter I think you have to build the tamiya mosquito, if you do not build it now when will you, as you say you really want to and it will certainly be a lovely kit, my view is build hte kits I want to and enjoy or they wil sit in the box and before I know it I wont be able to build them
Great point Stewart, this recent stress might be the perfect catalyst to make me push the button. 👍🏻
If you do the mosquito the I’ll do my revell 1/32 hienkel 111 with lots of aftermarket, which I keep avoiding!
@@stewart4478 I am certain Mosquito production will commence September 23
The internet has all but ruined my modelling enjoyment. Everything is better than I can or am prepared to do, It used to be me a kit in my bedroom.
I do know what you mean...it can feel competitve and one can be put off by that. But it was ever thus with some of the modelling magazines too...just ignore it and enjoy the fun of building kits: Maybe buy some older ones you did when much younger and enjoy them again? 👍🏻
After a gruelling build it’s good for the mojo to try something completely different. I suggest the Tamiya Sheridan which should be an enjoyable build 🤞
I really believe Kinetic’s philosophy is “take the money and run”. I’ve unfortunately built one kit thus far, their MQ-9 UAV Reaper. Fit and finish was amazing well in some areas but in others it’s as if you were building two kits the same subject but from different manufacturers. And the instructions were THE (for me) absolute worst. I had to constantly guess what parts and where they went half the time. Virtually none of the numbers matched the actual part. Kinetic has best get their act together. In the year 2023 no excuse for it other than a “we don’t care, we’ve got your money” attitude.
Thanks for that experience...glad it's not just me...👍🏻
If you take something. that has already been engineered into the final shape and your primary job is to apply glue, then you are an assembler or model builder. Neither modeller will do anything significant to the model beyond some detailing or minor scratch building. If you start with a lump of wood, styrofoam, plastic sheet, brass etc and an idea in your head, like my dad use to, you are a model maker. Whatever you do, if you are having fun, it doesn't really matter which category you are in.
Agree 100% ☺️
Kinetic Gold series are way better- the F-104s are good, Ive build several. The earlier kits, great subjects, but poor fit and instructions as you say.
Seriously?? I built the Kinetic Starfire (their first kit) and while it was not Tamigawa it was easy enough to produce an acceptable model. If you want a real challenge try the Special Hobby Albacore or their Mil Mi-1 Hare. Hard work but a much greater sense of achievement when your friends at the local IPMS club praise the result. And no I am not a champion builder, in fact I have only ever entered one show competition; I feel confident enough to display my builds on the club stand at shows and am happy with that. I don't make a song and dance about bad instructions or complain about a bit of fettling, filling and sanding, I just try to rise to the challenges, as best I can, as they present themselves. I take your point about first time builders but building Tamiya standard kits ALL the time would be boring and would not do anything to improve one's model building skills.
Yes. Seriously. Whilst I take on board your points, when you consider the £60-£70 asking price, this is not an acceptable level of quality.
Sorry, the Starfire was Kittyhawk not Kinetic.
@@paulcharlwood702 Ooof, even worse, Lol. 😆 I nearly bought their Mig-25 Foxbat, but luckily I got the ICM kit instead. 👍🏻
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Fouga?
It should be fine however, most cases it’s not rushing when you pay the amount of money a paying for these kids these days and they go together like dog shit
My old fifties and sixties Monogram kits have better instructions.
I’m building the special hobby sea harrier in 1/72 ,, it’s nearly gone in the bin a couple of times ,awful fit ,rotten instructions
It seems odd doesn't it? It seems like a 'Bogey aircraft' for kit manufacturers? 😖