Another interesting balanced story, no fevered rambling just a nicely told story giving multiple scenarios & leaving it to the viewer to draw their own conclusions .
I love these guys voices and narration style . They are polite English gentleman. Even though they are describing spooky murder & the unexplained. Awesome channel. .
Great channel! My dad told me back in the 1960s that if you knew all of the strange things that have happened in the world, you wouldn't be able to sleep! He was right.
Horror writer H.P. Lovecraft once said, "The most merciful ... thing is the inability of the human mind to correlate its contents." Not just a spooky saying. A great truth. "We live on a placid island of ignorance," he went on to say, "in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far." By sitting in the comfort of our homes or a peaceful cafe watching these spooky videos, we gain distance in the midst of conformation, and so help to keep it that way. No, all we are doing is reminding ourselves of the voyages we do not want to take. Some adventurers try, and very often, they die foolish deaths. Stay close to home and live your simple, happy life. Whether rich or poor, it is what is best. Bad enough to gain the world and lose your soul. Worse yet to try to gain the world and lose your body to the devouring forces which surround us. Beasts and tiny predators alike. The sucking muck and the waters still or raging. All the hazards of the great wild. Even the hazards of the night right in your own neighborhood or town. No, the infinite is not meant for us.
If you turn on AutoPlay and doze off, your brain will still process the voice and the stories. You can have some pretty fucked up dreams and memory flashbacks. When you wake up, you can realize how powerful the subconscious truly is. Kinda scary too...
Tell me about it. I used to never have dreams, so I would come up with some crazy creatures for a story I may or may not make someday. Until I took amantadine. Listening to these stories in the background gave me some horrifying nightmares and feelings I will never forget.
@@InformerMaz At this point I cant sleep without these kinda things as whitenoise, so Im gunna go ahead and jot down 'amantadine' as a thing to _never_ take
@@bloodyneptune Hopefully you don’t have to! It’s for spasticity, so it’s not something people normally get. Not sure if it was considered a rare side effect either, but waking up to find myself scratching on my neck is certainly something I’ll never forget lol.
Some of your stories, I've heard of, like the Dyatlov Pass incident, but many I have not, so I find your vids entertaining. The art, though fairly simple, really works and proves impactful. Great job by all of you.
I like how in the end of your videos you you offer up the most plausible scenario instead of declaring without doubt it was aliens like other channels. Its responsible
Yes . Though very weird , the most plausible is probably the true account . England has it share of brutal robbers and murderers , as their history attests , and the man must have ran afoul of some bad folk . The weird parts are merely strange coincidences : How hard did the "scientific community " band together to test the "strange" gel , in some random murder ? How sure are accounts of state of clothes and no footprints in coal ? If two men dragged him up by the armpits , he wouldn't have got too dirty , and if hurriedly dressing a corpse for disposal one would not be to particular of buttons and laces . I'm imagining lumpy coal bits ... if you walk up and walk down how "disturbed " would the jumble of bits look ? If you fanned the marks with your hands on way down , especially, it would be nearly indiscernable . Are some weird points , doubtless, but can't just jump too UFOs , an as yet unproven quantity , as the answer . Often the truth is stranger than fiction .
It was stated in the beginning that he and his wife moved from Poland in 1960 to the UK. Could there be some possible Soviet involvement? It would be interesting to know what his job was in Poland. Maybe he was running from someone? KGB perhaps? Just a theory is all. I usually try to figure out some plausible explanation before blaming ET's...those little buggers get blamed for everything!
Thats probably close to the truth. Sorry this turned out so long LOL. Look into the Alan Godfrey abduction. He was the cop who was called on to this mans death site. I have it downloaded but there are numerous Alan Godfrey stories on here. Him and Adamski are linked. One abducted, one probably abducted and brought back dead by mistake. I say mistake because of the ointment, and the fact he wasnt mutilated or injured at all. Like Travis Walton now says, He felt they were trying to save his life, if you listen to his story, its incredible, his coworkers were looking at murder charges because their story was so crazy, they were driving home from work, 7 of them, they see a light, get close, see what it is a UFO. Witnessed Travis walk under the UFO and a beam of light hit him and threw him 10-20 ft in the air. They flee, and stop. Realize they gotta go back, Travis is gone. 5 days go by, they got 6 witnesses to it, cops are trying to get them to confess to murder. 5 days later, travis shows up, on the ground looks up, the ufo is above him. After they see hes OK they leave he said it was a star in seconds. He goes to a phone, calls his brother, and he comes to get him. Travis gets in the car thinking its the same night, his brother says Travis feel your face! He had a beard. He tells his story to the cops which everyone thinks was crazy, but 7 people 6 witnesses, all passed polygraphs, he woke up on the UFO and seen 3 "creatures" He had an artist do a lot of work fo him, anyway he thought they was drs. He picks up an instument and acts like hes gonna hit one, they back off, walk out, he tries to flee,finds a chair with a star map hologram 3d type thing when he moved the chair, the entire star pattern moved in unison, a human walks in, with a kind of glass mask like an astronaut helmet He grabs travis takes to a few more humans and they put a mask on him and he remembers nothing,until he woke up on the ground, theres more. Well look up a speech of his, hear it from his mouth, not other youtubers trying to make a buck, half of it is half assed anyway.
About the burn marks found on Mr Adamski’s neck and shoulders: It is worthy of note that Mr Adamski had been attending an acupuncture clinic to treat his aches and pains. Part of his treatment involved bamboo tubes and burning cotton balls (to induce a suction on the skin?). It is possible the burns were caused by this treatment. Also, the mysterious substance found on the burns was not tested in a lab. The coroner didn’t know what it was, but no chemical analysis was carried out, as it was determined the substance was unlikely to have contributed to the death of Mr Adamski.
Just curious (I don't know!) but how do you know that the ointment wasn't analyzed? I've read several items about this case and never came across that info other than "it was an unknown substance." Also, cupping (i.e. the burning treatment you mention) is usually done of broad skin areas (chest, back) rather than on curving tissue like shoulders, arms for obvious reasons.
Two possibilities jump out: 1. He was involved in criminal activity, during which time he was injured and later died (maybe during a heist, processing drugs, idk). After which his criminal associates dumped his body, not wanting to go through the legitimate avenues for obvious reasons. 2. Something or someone came back from his past and bit him. What exactly can’t be known with the little info given. What did he do for a living? What did he do in Poland? What was he doing during the war? You catch my drift..
The part that wigs me out is that he ate well until the day he died. When testing medication on humans, the subjects are often not allowed to eat anything for around 10 hours before the administration of the medication (depending)...
This story is so fascinating. The hook for me is the unexplained substance. Why can science not determine what it was? Will we ever find out what happened to him?
For me the main question is: how could he leave communist Poland to UK in '60s? No ordinary person could do that. He must have been connected to secret services. So the way his body has been disposed could have been a demonstration/warning for others?
Adamski is a famous name to do with UFOs storys .. not the same one.. looks like godfrey was got at and the UFO story was cover .. id say you on the right track with your comment..
I agree did they look into his background while in Poland? Mayhaps he was involved in something clandestine, got out of the country with the information He may have been traced and snatched by GRU or KGB operatives and tortured to get the info from him.
Your talkin bs as for my Mother came to Holland from Poland in the eighties and that was after my grandfathers squadmates shot him in the back. So.. your talking bs... you can ask the same question to those who managed to cross the wall. If you want it its possible.
I worked for WYP for over a decade, and the cold case files were asked from time to time, to be reloaded on the major enquiry teams oracle database. The old cases were on tape and had to be removed from fire safe, before being loaded onto the solaris servers. Having reload many different unsolved cases over the course of my employment, the Adamski tapes were the only ones missing from the safe, and unable to obtain, anywhere! We were also told that all the paper work (used prior to electronic computer systems) was also missing.
Also, for people saying the substance was tested in some back street lab by "Dr Nick" from the Simpsons, the lab in question was in Leeds and was at the time, at the tip of the pioneering spear that was DNA research.
@@smokey5892 As a 10yr old (ish) i saw a paper file. I was friends with the daughter of one of the local officers who had been part of the investigation (although i believe not on duty at the time of the bodies discovery). I didn't understand what i was looking at... but we knew enough to know we shouldn't be looking at it. I cant remember any details of what i read but I've always remembered the name Adamski.
Yeah well it was a place where Iron age and Bronze it was a site for burial rites , and it's old name means " death death wood " . The Angles agreed with the local Celtic people that it was a place of death hence the name . Oh and Harald Shipman the serial killer GP practiced there for a while killing . So yes it's earned the death name all right !
This is one of the strangest stories/cases Ive come across.. everything from the position of his body as well as location to the obvious unexplained gel on his back how is it possible the man has no trace of coal on him? The only explanation is he was literally sat there by something above .. it's just strange and very very interesting
@@steveperreira5850 yeah , honestly a crane would be a bit hard to conceal and get away with. Also a crane would leave track marks in the dirt . , The fact that there was gel on his wounds and they have no idea what the gel was makes it all more believable that he was abducted by some sort of extraterrestrial being ...
Questions: What did he do in Poland before he and his wife crossed the Iron Curtain? If he was fleeing Cold War Poland, that might explain some things. And when they said they could not identify the gel substance, what does that mean? Like, they put it through a gas chromatograph and couldn't identify ANY of the chemicals or elements that is contained? Or they just had never seen something that was that particular combination of chemicals before. There's a big difference there. Why would kidnappers OR aliens allow him to shave? The autopsy would have revealed stomach contents, and even if he did not eat on the day of his death, there should still be food matter in his digestive tract for 24 hours or more after he ate it; what did he eat? Fish N' Chips? Space Nutri-paste? That information would have come up in the autopsy, was it not released to the public? As presented, it's a very mysterious story, but not enough information to rule out a half assed investigation; at least in this video.
Great vid. I remember reading about this case years ago in a "dictionary of the unexplained" type book but had forgotten about it. To begin with when watching the vid I was thinking that he was some kind of defector as moving across the Iron Curtain was far from easy. However the latter part of the vid suggests he had extended family in the UK, which would given him a far more mundane reason for moving & have made it far easier for him to settle there from a legal pov. So once you discount the possibility of him being a defector & having been murdered by the Soviet secret services because of espionage... Who knows. Beats me. This is one of the ones that really does make you wonder "aliens...?"
Given the timelines and basis, it can be speculate as, He was kidnapped, hold captive for several days. During the torture, (something to do with burns) he could not bear the pain which lead to death(heart/autopsy). He might have been burned multiple times leading to that instance. Then kidnappers cleaned his body to remove any possibility of leading it to them. My presumption, there were at least 2-3 people involved. They had key to the gate or had access to it. His body was carefully dumped and positioned on top of coals and while retracting their footprints/footsteps and erasing it. Since there was no any dragged marks, his body was carried by at least 2 people. Also, that jelly like substance was something they must have prepared and used on him to clam him down during their tortures. His body was left there on purpose since there were rumours of ghosts/Aliens and UFOS at that time and people would believe that kind of shit easily.
The UFO stuff is very, very far fetched. The problem w the torture theory is that he was clean and had shaven fairly recently, which is not something a torturer would be likely to allow a captive to do. Also, what torture? Not indications of major bruises, no broken bones, no abrasions, just 2 relatively small burns on his neck? That's not what an angry torturous person would do in a rage. That was clearly small and incidental, some accident that was later treated. I would guess someone in the family knew something that would have shed more light on this, but it sounds like Adamski was treated with some courtesy wherever he was.
Yes, he was held captive and eventually tortured but his death was unintended I believe. He was well fed and allowed to shave and bathe. Things turned nasty when he refused to cooperate. A coal miner dumped on a coal heap, their was more than one person involved definately. My two cents...
Your channel is really good. I have been binge watching it and luckily for me I have videos left to watch. You manage to create a creepy atmosphere while also debunking things and giving info.
If I was a betting man I say he saw something he wasn't supposed to see either walking to work or at work. Then he was kidnapped to see if he could be silenced. He was taken care for ( which would explain eating well and the lack of a stuble) up until he had the heart attack. He was then dumped hoping his body would be crushed under the coal and his kidnappers covered their tracks. Which leaves me to wonder what was going on in that coal mine.
Supposing this was aliens who abducted Ademski, it must be hilarious imagining all the mistakes and slip ups by this group of aliens. “Wait what did you do to his human?” “Why isn’t the gel working?” “How did he die???” “Shit where do we put him???” And weeks later when the constable sees them “Alright let’s park here give me a minute to think. Wait what is that guy with the notepad doing? SHIT”
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Of course it was aliens who treated Adamskis wounds with their own extraterrestrial products. Maybe something went wrong during their experiments and he was injured. They tried to heal the wounds but failed. He died of heart attack. He must have been in their spaceship and got a shock from what he was experiencing
Aliens: Vastly superior minds capable of traveling vast distances though incomprehensible mastery of time and space. Also aliens: HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS GODDAMN SHIRT WORK FUCK IT TOSS HIM
On the surface it does seem odd. Considering (alleged) intelligence of aliens. However, you have to understand its been speculated some aliens don't have feel/emotions/empathy. If for whatever purpose they conduct abductions; being alive seems to be prevalent. Of course a sudden over reaction by an abductee (heart attack) renders the patient? Useless to them - this the abrupt treatment. Plus aliens have different physiological differences to humans - for one there hands are (alledgy) larger longer digits . I don't see it being that much of a stretch aliens having a hard time doing up laces/belt? The missing wallet is red herring. Just to divert attention.
I absolutely hate cold cases. I have to know what happened. Not that I need to know the answers,it just eats away at me. I couldn't never work cold and end up not figuring out the truth in the end.
Ask yourself how he became on a pile of coal with a white shirt on and he was clean and the P.C who found him just happened to have is close encounter himself.
weird re-clothing is a "symptom" David Paulides talks about in his missing people cases. When bodies are found, with his cases, often the clothing is all wrongly put on, sometimes its not even the victim's clothes. And in his cases, the bodies often turn up in weird, out of the way places - or they suddenly turn up in places people searching for the victims could not possibly have missed them. Poor bugger! Anyways, love the show, got some good ones here.
Susan Griffiths It's a well known (but bizarre) symptom of hypothermia to strip off clothing, check out "paradoxical undressing". Also, in a survival situation it would make sense to do things that might seem wierd with clothes- like tying a shirt around your foot for blisters, or pants around your head to block some of the sun. No one plans to get lost, so you're forced to use what you have with you for as much as you can. I can't even imagine.
A lot of this can be answered simply by the fact that it was 1980. Crime labs weren't advanced at all, they didn't even have DNA testing yet. Bad detective work could explain many other aspects which was and still remains to be a problem to this day. Never discount the irrational mind of a jealous lover either. The husband with the retraining order could easily have decided Adamski was either having an affair with his ex-wife or simply mad he was supplying her with protection from him. Torture gone wrong, heart attack, outdated science can't identify the "ointment", dump him in a bizarre spot to leave people baffled which worked so well we're still talking about it. Jumping to it being aliens is a wild leap and an example of why Occam's razor should be applied until nothing else remains. I cut hair for a living and was able to posit a reasonable possibility so I'm sure the truth is even more simple than my example but is somehow being overlooked.
I really wish the gel could be retested today with all the scientific advancements over the past decades, if it could be identified at least it would put an end to one part of the mystery and could help piece together what happened, like who would’ve had access to that sort of substance back then
Aliens: Hyper advanced species with technology capable of bending space-time to allow them to travel billions of light years to earth and put people in suspended animation. Also aliens: Can't reverse simple cardiac arrest and treat burns with useless ointment.
@@w8m4n IKR, they mastered utterly complex technologies but were unable to put the clothes of Mr Adamski back on him the way it was, imagine how intelligent one ought to be to accomplish something even a 6 year old can do without any help .......
Coworker finally had enough of Adamski’s coal puns. “Hey, I didn’t have time to do laundry last night, so my soot is dirty!...y’know?! My soot is dirty😁!” “🤨 Not anymore, Zigmund.”
A classic mystery. I'm a born cynic but this is a really strange case which I first read about back in the late 80's. And however cynical you are, the dumping of the body in broad daylight, with no disturbance to the coal heap and no coal residue/dirt on the clothing is inexplicable.
the interesting thing about extraterrestrials is that we as humans always assume that they are far more intelligent than us, and that their reasons/motives far exceed any of our understanding
I wonder if the supposed lack of trace evidence and the inability to identify the gel was in some part caused by poor forensics? This was 1980 in a rural area after all; the local police department and crime scene investigators probably didn't have an ideal amount of technologies and techniques to work with. It's possible there may have been something at the scene of the crime the police missed that could have helped explain what happened to Adamski.
Yeah. People jump to "the lab couldn't identify the gel, therefore aliens" but the truth is that unlike what watching CSI might have you believe, the forensic lab is not infallible. Forensics were still pretty primitive in 1980 compared to now, and this case likely wasn't a priority at the time. There are two rational explanations for Adamski's injuries: 1. Adamski was tortured, possibly by a party to the family feud, as members of his family maintain. Or (speculation) it might have had something to do with the mines. Adamski was a coal miner by trade, he was from a communist country, and there was a lot of industrial action and social unrest over the decline in coal mining in the UK at that time. He could have been caught up in some kind of labor dispute gone violent. 2. Adamski was apparently undergoing an acupuncture treatment that involved burning balls of material being pushed onto his skin. One such treatment could have gone wrong, thus explaining the burns and the missing shirt. Either way, the missing watch and wallet are a big smoking gun that points to a criminal culprit. Missing valuables points to a greed motive.
I’m stumped. Not too good at solving mysteries, not me. If he had been murdered by humans, either intentionally or unintentionally, I don’t see how putting him on the ash heap helps the perpetrators in any way?
I am getting Cold War vibes. What if Adamski was more than just an ordinärt coalminer? Or that some Security or Intelligence service believed he was more than that. All you need to drop him like that is a helicopter
I thought that to begin with too, as it was very difficult to come to the UK from Poland at the time. However it seems Mr Adamski had a lot of family already there, presumably they resettled before the Cold War/ Iron Curtain days or were WW2 refugees that somehow made it out of mainland Europe. That would have given him a mundane reason to be granted residency & for authorities in both countries to greenlight the emigration.
There is good docco from the 80's or 90s on YT............It gives a good account w/ lots of footage of Alan, there is also a clip w/ David Icke from back in the day...........Ta............
Yes, his story, although it has a less tragic ending, was much creepier to me. Especially when he looked up and realized he had moved down the road, lost time, and his boots were torn!
I've had multiple paranormal experiences. I guess some people get lucky. Plus the fact that he was a cop & it was his job to investigate stuff makes it more likely that he'd have more than 1 experience? Especially if aliens were active in the area at that time?
You know why people lose time? It's not because people are knocked out and abducted. It's because the gravity engines that the crafts use warp spacetime and apparently seem to shoot time forward, I believe relative to the distance that the crafts travel. Space and time are not separate, they are conjoined, so bending space with gravity to travel faster than lightspeed will also move time forward
i'm gonna say, it's not easy to dress an uncooperative person/a cadaver. it's quite possible that if a kidnapper was in a hurry, they would not manage to dress the victim perfectly.
I wonder why no one considers the Polish secret service behind it? The Cold War is not so long ago - and Poland was a communist dictatorship when he, as you put it, "relocated" (i. e. fled) to the UK. In my opinion, everything points in the direction of a secret service - the fact, that he was dumped at a place where he would soon be found, so his death could be a warning to other people who fled. The fact, that he had burns (from torture maybe). The fact, that he was hastily dressed, so he was during his absence obviously undressed to humiliate him. And so on.
That's a good point. But I wonder whether the Polish secret police would bother to track him down to kill him. Was he famous? There were a lot of people who had left Communist countries during those dark times.
@@baruchben-david4196 Somewhere in the comments I read that he was a scientist. Or was it in the video itself? Wherever it was - if he was a scientist that had fled Poland, that would be enough reason for the secret service to go after him.
It was impossible for ordinary person to leave communist Poland in that time. He was eather connected to secret services, or fled on his own which was extremely difficult and rare case.
They had many more pressing concerns than killing retired coal miners. Plus, if they wanted to send a message, there would have been some evidence left behind that tacitly identified them as being involved so that others knew. There was none, so it would have been pointless.
I grew up just 5 miles from Todmorden, can't believe I've never heard of this before. Mind you I was only 3 in 1980.... Another fun fact , PC Godfrey attended , I'll have to google and check but I'm sure its the same name as the policeman from Todmorden who was abducted by Aliens around the same time (early 80s),. What I do know is that Tod ( as we call it) is a hotbed of paranormal incidents. A lot of witchcraft and occult groups down there too. Weird vibe in Tod. Grim place. Wow, so didn't expect this to be in Tod of all places when I clicked .
Dumping the body on a coal pile might seem odd. Yet we should consider that the culprit or culprits may have wanted it to be found. Maybe guilt over an accidental killing. Maybe a warning to others. Or maybe they wanted to avoid a drawn out missing persons investigation that could point to criminal activities. The man's watch and wallet was missing, to me that points to criminal involvement in the body dump.
Theory - he had a heart attack. Someone who was there during the heart attack tried to implement electric shocks (using home electrical appliances) in order to revive the victim which caused 2nd-degree burns. Used ointment to heal his burns after it. When Zigmund died, the person was so scared he/she moved the body in an attempt to cover up the whole incident out of fear that he/she would be accused of a murder.
@@BurtonRdForever there are so many different ointment and I can't imagine they spent all that much money on NMR, and IR (or other spectral) spectroscopy, chronograpy, ect. That stuff is expensive
You can't expect the alien drone worker class to know how to dress a human because they wear one piece, atomically aligned, fitted bodysuits. And that sounds outlandish and ridiculous, but it's probably the truth in this case. Rest in Peace Mr. Adamski.
His body on the coal pile as well as alien activity can be explained in several ways: For one aliens have nothing to hide in the sense that they will not have to face legal repercussions. Therefore, placing his body in a locked area in broad daylight is not something they would be overly incentivized not to do. Also, his body being on the pile without any trace of climbing the pile indicates that it is not farfetched to say that he was placed there from above. Three, when you consider the area has been known to experience UFO activity that makes alien activity even more probable. Also, the gel like substance could not be explained by science indicating the substance may be from another world.
I feel like Greys (aka the common depiction of aliens) have three main kinds of reasons for abductions: older, smarter scientist greys probably abduct for research purposes only and are rather benign, the culinary team who are responsible for cattle and livestock mutilations because space aliens need to eat too, and then there are younger intern greys who're literally just pranksters and like to have fun with stupid humans and cattle, sometimes moving cows around for laughs (this may also explain some things at skinwalker ranch) or pretending to be much scarier than they really are with butt probe threats. And in this case, maybe a prank went too far and the scientist greys had to scold their foolish interns, treating the man after an accident, but in vain. And after some deliberation, they tried to fix their mistake by returning the corpse. maybe one grey wanted to leave a note but the older ones decided against it... If there was a more extraterrestrial reason for this death, this could be the reason why.
Well, that drawing of him tied up gave me an idea. Maybe he’d been indulging in some BDSM and died of heart attack while doing so. Burn marks etc and the fact that he was fed and looked after. Because he died, his partner in bedroom frolics panicked and tried to make it look like a mysterious disappearance. Perhaps the partner was another man. Who knows. God knows how he got onto the coal heap though.
Battery acid would do a LOT more damage that second degree burns!! Sounds almost like a too hot and too long shower- especially on the back of the neck and upper shoulders. (And yes, you definitely CAN be burned by your own home shower, as crazy as it sounds.) Maybe he ran away with a man from work, had a heart attack, and his lover put him in a place he would be found right away- you wouldn't want a person you care about decomposing somewhere. They don't mention him having other injuries to his body, (maybe took a super hot shower while drinking or feeling guilty?) and was shaving, eating, showering, had clean clothes etc... In a small coal mining town in the 1980s it would probably be pretty hard for the other man to come out as gay, and there are similar cases in the BDSM community- the people weren't muderers, they just didn't want to be found out or have to explain themselves to the police. Just a random thought.
Considering he was Polish, it's likely he was a catholic. Poland as it is, is one of the most religious nations amongst Christian countries in Europe, there alongside Ireland, Italy and so on. And that's today. He was born in 1920s so it's logical to think he was likely even more religious that nowadays Poles are. Now consider the fact that Christianity has for a long time been against homosexuality, one might guess that it's unlikely that he had a lover and a man at that. Instead, considering he came from Eastern Bloc, I see it more likely he got interrogated and possibly murdered by either MI6 or more likely KGB. I would exclude Polish intelligence however, since Peoples Republic of Poland, being an "allied" state of the USSR, would be unlikely to partake in such action on its own. Not to mention it was about as effective as modern day British cops are at stopping terrorists attacks (so not a lot)... KGB and MI6 on the other hand...
Funny, I thought he might've gone for a BDSM adventure and unexpectedly had a heart attack, too. Would explain hasty/incorrect dressing of his body and leaving it out of the way, but where he'd soon be found. The cold war theories are interesting, too.
@@smiglo112 Not forgetting that the 70's and 80's were the height of the coal miner strikes and there was thought by many to be a lot of communist involved in that, makes Mi5/6 look a more likely culprit, can't see a locked gate keeping those guys out, easy enough to pick a padlock even today.
If it was caused by "aliens", I feel like there's a humorous Coen bros-esque angle from the other side of trying to undo constant fuck-ups and the situation just getting worse
The art of jumping to conclusion..."hmm he was missing for a week but was found clean shaven and looks like he's been eating well. Maybe he was shaving and eating normally. ....buuuuuuut on the other hand maybe he was abducted by Aliens and held in stasis so that his facial hair didn't grow and his body didn't digest his food so it only appears that he's had a shave and eaten?"
Lol. How'd the body get there.? Within a 4 hour period there still should be tracks on the pile. Unless there was a conveyor belt above no one saw. I'm sure that's happened.
If Zigmund Adamski was tortured, maybe the strange substance on his skin was conductive gel. And maybe they had to move him quickly so they dressed him badly because it is always harder to dress someone else rather than yourself. Then they just disposed of him. As for how they got on the premises, maybe they were already there from the earlier shift.
"Modern science could not identify the gel." You mean that a couple of investigators in a rural part of England were unable to identify it. Chances are good that they lacked the equipment and training to make a thorough analysis of a gel they didn't recognize. It's not as though the full weight of modern science was brought to bear on the problem. It sounds dramatic, but modern science never had a good look at the gel.
For all we know it could have been and the results were still the same . I am sure it has been it's too an interesting case . These cases are opened all the time and only reported on when something has changed The lab it was sent into was in Leeds which isn't rural or as backwards as people like to think
@@chrisragnar1 No, we said it was tested at a "home office" laboratory. The UK Home Office is one of the highest authorities regarding regulations on anything from housing, environmental compliance, welfare, health and, yes, even laboratory testing. In other words, the laboratory it was tested at was an official one, in compliance with strict regulations.
There's actually a program called Shaun Ryder on UFO's where they speak to this expoliceman about this case+others,Shaun Ryder was frontman from a group called Happy Mondays+he investigates with the American Travis(can't remember surname)from the most famous alien abduction story out there as made into a film-fire in the sky
"It's impossible to dismiss alien abduction". It's very possible. In fact, I just did. The man was tortured. The torturer did not, apparently, intend to actually kill him, probably just intimidate. Hence the ointment applied. However, Adamski's heart failed, leading to his death. In a panic he was hurriedly redressed and his body was dumped. Sometimes the most mundane explanations are far more interesting than "aliens did it!".
Also doesn't explain the dumping of the body in broad daylight in a locked facility with zero trace of evidence around the body. YOU don't get to assume anything either, smart ass.
@mrargus : the man would identify his torturers once released, so if torture is what his captors did (and that looks likely), then they planned to murder him. If it was a family person behind it, though, why go through the risk of holding him captive, which significantly increases the chances of getting caught? Weird case.
From what I read, the last person they could confirm saw him alive was a neighbor he greeted on his way to the store so it's likely he didn't make it there.
Another interesting balanced story, no fevered rambling just a nicely told story giving multiple scenarios & leaving it to the viewer to draw their own conclusions .
I love these guys voices and narration style . They are polite English gentleman. Even though they are describing spooky murder & the unexplained. Awesome channel. .
Great channel! My dad told me back in the 1960s that if you knew all of the strange things that have happened in the world, you wouldn't be able to sleep! He was right.
Horror writer H.P. Lovecraft once said, "The most merciful ... thing is the inability of the human mind to correlate its contents." Not just a spooky saying. A great truth. "We live on a placid island of ignorance," he went on to say, "in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far."
By sitting in the comfort of our homes or a peaceful cafe watching these spooky videos, we gain distance in the midst of conformation, and so help to keep it that way. No, all we are doing is reminding ourselves of the voyages we do not want to take. Some adventurers try, and very often, they die foolish deaths. Stay close to home and live your simple, happy life. Whether rich or poor, it is what is best. Bad enough to gain the world and lose your soul. Worse yet to try to gain the world and lose your body to the devouring forces which surround us. Beasts and tiny predators alike. The sucking muck and the waters still or raging. All the hazards of the great wild. Even the hazards of the night right in your own neighborhood or town. No, the infinite is not meant for us.
If you turn on AutoPlay and doze off, your brain will still process the voice and the stories. You can have some pretty fucked up dreams and memory flashbacks. When you wake up, you can realize how powerful the subconscious truly is. Kinda scary too...
Tell me about it. I used to never have dreams, so I would come up with some crazy creatures for a story I may or may not make someday.
Until I took amantadine. Listening to these stories in the background gave me some horrifying nightmares and feelings I will never forget.
@@InformerMaz At this point I cant sleep without these kinda things as whitenoise, so Im gunna go ahead and jot down 'amantadine' as a thing to _never_ take
@@bloodyneptune Hopefully you don’t have to! It’s for spasticity, so it’s not something people normally get.
Not sure if it was considered a rare side effect either, but waking up to find myself scratching on my neck is certainly something I’ll never forget lol.
Who does these artworks? They're really good. I like the way you present the stories, too. You are a good narrator. Keep it up.
Watch the video till the end. It says "Artwork by Mikey Turcanu"
Some of your stories, I've heard of, like the Dyatlov Pass incident, but many I have not, so I find your vids entertaining. The art, though fairly simple, really works and proves impactful. Great job by all of you.
Regardless of who or what killed him, I feel for the poor man and his family. What a terrible way to die.
Discovered this channel about a week ago and have not stopped watching, got my wife and my son watching and we all love it! Well done
I like how in the end of your videos you you offer up the most plausible scenario instead of declaring without doubt it was aliens like other channels. Its responsible
@Harbinger : yeah, I appreciate that the narrator generally applies thorough research and occam's razor.
But it WAS aliens! 😂
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It was aliens.
Yes . Though very weird , the most plausible is probably the true account . England has it share of brutal robbers and murderers , as their history attests , and the man must have ran afoul of some bad folk . The weird parts are merely strange coincidences :
How hard did the "scientific community " band together to test the "strange" gel , in some random murder ?
How sure are accounts of state of clothes and no footprints in coal ? If two men dragged him up by the armpits , he wouldn't have got too dirty , and if hurriedly dressing a corpse for disposal one would not be to particular of buttons and laces .
I'm imagining lumpy coal bits ... if you walk up and walk down how "disturbed " would the jumble of bits look ? If you fanned the marks with your hands on way down , especially, it would be nearly indiscernable .
Are some weird points , doubtless, but can't just jump too UFOs , an as yet unproven quantity , as the answer . Often the truth is stranger than fiction .
It was stated in the beginning that he and his wife moved from Poland in 1960 to the UK.
Could there be some possible Soviet involvement? It would be interesting to know what his job was in Poland. Maybe he was running from someone? KGB perhaps? Just a theory is all. I usually try to figure out some plausible explanation before blaming ET's...those little buggers get blamed for everything!
I can see aliens standing around looking at him *has massive heart attack and dies* Then they look at each other "Oh shit! Now what do we do?"
Thats probably close to the truth. Sorry this turned out so long LOL. Look into the Alan Godfrey abduction. He was the cop who was called on to this mans death site. I have it downloaded but there are numerous Alan Godfrey stories on here. Him and Adamski are linked. One abducted, one probably abducted and brought back dead by mistake. I say mistake because of the ointment, and the fact he wasnt mutilated or injured at all. Like Travis Walton now says, He felt they were trying to save his life, if you listen to his story, its incredible, his coworkers were looking at murder charges because their story was so crazy, they were driving home from work, 7 of them, they see a light, get close, see what it is a UFO. Witnessed Travis walk under the UFO and a beam of light hit him and threw him 10-20 ft in the air. They flee, and stop. Realize they gotta go back, Travis is gone. 5 days go by, they got 6 witnesses to it, cops are trying to get them to confess to murder. 5 days later, travis shows up, on the ground looks up, the ufo is above him. After they see hes OK they leave he said it was a star in seconds. He goes to a phone, calls his brother, and he comes to get him. Travis gets in the car thinking its the same night, his brother says Travis feel your face! He had a beard. He tells his story to the cops which everyone thinks was crazy, but 7 people 6 witnesses, all passed polygraphs, he woke up on the UFO and seen 3 "creatures" He had an artist do a lot of work fo him, anyway he thought they was drs. He picks up an instument and acts like hes gonna hit one, they back off, walk out, he tries to flee,finds a chair with a star map hologram 3d type thing when he moved the chair, the entire star pattern moved in unison, a human walks in, with a kind of glass mask like an astronaut helmet He grabs travis takes to a few more humans and they put a mask on him and he remembers nothing,until he woke up on the ground, theres more. Well look up a speech of his, hear it from his mouth, not other youtubers trying to make a buck, half of it is half assed anyway.
Cheese it!!!
OK, this is the only explanation Ill accept for this case from now on
XD!
Who is here (again) because Mr. Ballen reminded us how awesome this channel is? 2023🎉 So happy you two are working together ✨
Who?
'Our Earth person stopped moving. Hurry leave him on the carbon pile and let's GTFO. ....O look, space cows!......... O SHIT IT'S THE COPS'
About the burn marks found on Mr Adamski’s neck and shoulders: It is worthy of note that Mr Adamski had been attending an acupuncture clinic to treat his aches and pains. Part of his treatment involved bamboo tubes and burning cotton balls (to induce a suction on the skin?). It is possible the burns were caused by this treatment. Also, the mysterious substance found on the burns was not tested in a lab. The coroner didn’t know what it was, but no chemical analysis was carried out, as it was determined the substance was unlikely to have contributed to the death of Mr Adamski.
Sounds like something that happens when you sleep in. Maybe he sat too close to some heater that burned him during sleep.
Just curious (I don't know!) but how do you know that the ointment wasn't analyzed? I've read several items about this case and never came across that info other than "it was an unknown substance." Also, cupping (i.e. the burning treatment you mention) is usually done of broad skin areas (chest, back) rather than on curving tissue like shoulders, arms for obvious reasons.
Two possibilities jump out:
1. He was involved in criminal activity, during which time he was injured and later died (maybe during a heist, processing drugs, idk). After which his criminal associates dumped his body, not wanting to go through the legitimate avenues for obvious reasons.
2. Something or someone came back from his past and bit him. What exactly can’t be known with the little info given. What did he do for a living? What did he do in Poland? What was he doing during the war? You catch my drift..
We talkin Nazis?
How is it possible for the coal pile not to of been disturbed if someone walked up the coal pile to place him there?
Scully: "Time can't just disappear. It's a universal invariant!"
Mulder: "Not in this zip code."
The part that wigs me out is that he ate well until the day he died. When testing medication on humans, the subjects are often not allowed to eat anything for around 10 hours before the administration of the medication (depending)...
So if he was abducted the aliens fed him?
This is honestly the best story telling content on TH-cam hands down!!
It must have been the tractor beam operator's first day on the job .
The same person was at the controller for MH370
Sure, blame it on the new guy lol
Nnnnnn.
And last day, if his Supervisor knows what he’s doing!
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Did anyone else find it at all interesting that he was a coal miner and he was found on coal? Maybe it’s pure coincidence, but seems symbolic to me.
Your channel has good content. Thanks for sharing.
This story is so fascinating. The hook for me is the unexplained substance. Why can science not determine what it was? Will we ever find out what happened to him?
For me the main question is: how could he leave communist Poland to UK in '60s? No ordinary person could do that. He must have been connected to secret services. So the way his body has been disposed could have been a demonstration/warning for others?
Probably just hired some smugglers
Adamski is a famous name to do with UFOs storys .. not the same one.. looks like godfrey was got at and the UFO story was cover .. id say you on the right track with your comment..
I agree did they look into his background while in Poland? Mayhaps he was involved in something clandestine, got out of the country with the information He may have been traced and snatched by GRU or KGB operatives and tortured to get the info from him.
Your talkin bs as for my Mother came to Holland from Poland in the eighties and that was after my grandfathers squadmates shot him in the back. So.. your talking bs... you can ask the same question to those who managed to cross the wall. If you want it its possible.
They moved there by ufo in first place i guess
So glad you covered this old case, which is very curious and largely forgotten.
I worked for WYP for over a decade, and the cold case files were asked from time to time, to be reloaded on the major enquiry teams oracle database. The old cases were on tape and had to be removed from fire safe, before being loaded onto the solaris servers. Having reload many different unsolved cases over the course of my employment, the Adamski tapes were the only ones missing from the safe, and unable to obtain, anywhere! We were also told that all the paper work (used prior to electronic computer systems) was also missing.
Also, for people saying the substance was tested in some back street lab by "Dr Nick" from the Simpsons, the lab in question was in Leeds and was at the time, at the tip of the pioneering spear that was DNA research.
@@smokey5892 As a 10yr old (ish) i saw a paper file. I was friends with the daughter of one of the local officers who had been part of the investigation (although i believe not on duty at the time of the bodies discovery). I didn't understand what i was looking at... but we knew enough to know we shouldn't be looking at it. I cant remember any details of what i read but I've always remembered the name Adamski.
I would just like to point out that Todmorden literally means death murder in German
Yeah well it was a place where Iron age and Bronze it was a site for burial rites , and it's old name means " death death wood " .
The Angles agreed with the local Celtic people that it was a place of death hence the name .
Oh and Harald Shipman the serial killer GP practiced there for a while killing .
So yes it's earned the death name all right !
This is one of the strangest stories/cases Ive come across.. everything from the position of his body as well as location to the obvious unexplained gel on his back how is it possible the man has no trace of coal on him? The only explanation is he was literally sat there by something above .. it's just strange and very very interesting
He could have been placed there by a crane. It doesn’t have to be a flying object.
@Steve Perreira
Where did the crane come from and how was it done so stealthily and carefully?
@@steveperreira5850 yeah , honestly a crane would be a bit hard to conceal and get away with. Also a crane would leave track marks in the dirt . , The fact that there was gel on his wounds and they have no idea what the gel was makes it all more believable that he was abducted by some sort of extraterrestrial being ...
Your audio has come a long way since four years ago! Much better now gents. Thank you for your time on these videos! I just love all of them.
my heart goes out to zadamski and his family.
Questions: What did he do in Poland before he and his wife crossed the Iron Curtain? If he was fleeing Cold War Poland, that might explain some things. And when they said they could not identify the gel substance, what does that mean? Like, they put it through a gas chromatograph and couldn't identify ANY of the chemicals or elements that is contained? Or they just had never seen something that was that particular combination of chemicals before. There's a big difference there. Why would kidnappers OR aliens allow him to shave? The autopsy would have revealed stomach contents, and even if he did not eat on the day of his death, there should still be food matter in his digestive tract for 24 hours or more after he ate it; what did he eat? Fish N' Chips? Space Nutri-paste? That information would have come up in the autopsy, was it not released to the public? As presented, it's a very mysterious story, but not enough information to rule out a half assed investigation; at least in this video.
Great vid. I remember reading about this case years ago in a "dictionary of the unexplained" type book but had forgotten about it. To begin with when watching the vid I was thinking that he was some kind of defector as moving across the Iron Curtain was far from easy. However the latter part of the vid suggests he had extended family in the UK, which would given him a far more mundane reason for moving & have made it far easier for him to settle there from a legal pov. So once you discount the possibility of him being a defector & having been murdered by the Soviet secret services because of espionage... Who knows. Beats me. This is one of the ones that really does make you wonder "aliens...?"
Given the timelines and basis, it can be speculate as,
He was kidnapped, hold captive for several days. During the torture, (something to do with burns) he could not bear the pain which lead to death(heart/autopsy). He might have been burned multiple times leading to that instance.
Then kidnappers cleaned his body to remove any possibility of leading it to them.
My presumption, there were at least 2-3 people involved. They had key to the gate or had access to it.
His body was carefully dumped and positioned on top of coals and while retracting their footprints/footsteps and erasing it. Since there was no any dragged marks, his body was carried by at least 2 people.
Also, that jelly like substance was something they must have prepared and used on him to clam him down during their tortures.
His body was left there on purpose since there were rumours of ghosts/Aliens and UFOS at that time and people would believe that kind of shit easily.
The UFO stuff is very, very far fetched. The problem w the torture theory is that he was clean and had shaven fairly recently, which is not something a torturer would be likely to allow a captive to do. Also, what torture? Not indications of major bruises, no broken bones, no abrasions, just 2 relatively small burns on his neck? That's not what an angry torturous person would do in a rage. That was clearly small and incidental, some accident that was later treated. I would guess someone in the family knew something that would have shed more light on this, but it sounds like Adamski was treated with some courtesy wherever he was.
Yes, he was held captive and eventually tortured but his death was unintended I believe. He was well fed and allowed to shave and bathe. Things turned nasty when he refused to cooperate. A coal miner dumped on a coal heap, their was more than one person involved definately. My two cents...
Has anyone ever looked into the possibility that he was a former spy?
Why such a public and bizarre way to off him though?
That is an interesting thought. One can only wonder.
Your channel is really good. I have been binge watching it and luckily for me I have videos left to watch. You manage to create a creepy atmosphere while also debunking things and giving info.
If I was a betting man I say he saw something he wasn't supposed to see either walking to work or at work. Then he was kidnapped to see if he could be silenced. He was taken care for ( which would explain eating well and the lack of a stuble) up until he had the heart attack. He was then dumped hoping his body would be crushed under the coal and his kidnappers covered their tracks. Which leaves me to wonder what was going on in that coal mine.
11:44 "...Godfrey found himself being alienated..." LOL.
Bruh 😂
What are the chances Godfrey claimed to , later, be an abducted!!! Dam charlatan
Supposing this was aliens who abducted Ademski, it must be hilarious imagining all the mistakes and slip ups by this group of aliens.
“Wait what did you do to his human?”
“Why isn’t the gel working?”
“How did he die???”
“Shit where do we put him???”
And weeks later when the constable sees them
“Alright let’s park here give me a minute to think. Wait what is that guy with the notepad doing? SHIT”
@@HippoBean Interns.
I've just subscribed..so happy to stumble across this channel, it's amazing.
This is a great channel! You have a nice story telling voice and great artistic imagery, great music and sound ambiance. I hope your channel goes far! There's a lot of work you're putting into this! Fantastic! Keep it up!
Rest In Peace to this man. Hope an answer is found.
Any answers died with the poor man . Where I live was a hot spot in the early eighties
Of course it was aliens who treated Adamskis wounds with their own extraterrestrial products. Maybe something went wrong during their experiments and he was injured. They tried to heal the wounds but failed. He died of heart attack. He must have been in their spaceship and got a shock from what he was experiencing
Very good point
Aliens: Vastly superior minds capable of traveling vast distances though incomprehensible mastery of time and space.
Also aliens: HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS GODDAMN SHIRT WORK FUCK IT TOSS HIM
LOL
:) very good observation. I'm not sure aliens would have need, time and understanding of western terrestrial tailoring
Ilznidiotic: best comment I've seen in ages. Bravo.
That is a good point.
On the surface it does seem odd.
Considering (alleged) intelligence of aliens.
However, you have to understand its been speculated some aliens don't have feel/emotions/empathy.
If for whatever purpose they conduct abductions; being alive seems to be prevalent.
Of course a sudden over reaction by an abductee (heart attack) renders the patient? Useless to them - this the abrupt treatment.
Plus aliens have different physiological differences to humans - for one there hands are (alledgy) larger longer digits .
I don't see it being that much of a stretch aliens having a hard time doing up laces/belt?
The missing wallet is red herring.
Just to divert attention.
it makes you wonder about the thousands of people that simply dissapear around the world every day never to be seen again
yeah the human mutilation documentary is mindblowing.
I absolutely hate cold cases. I have to know what happened. Not that I need to know the answers,it just eats away at me. I couldn't never work cold and end up not figuring out the truth in the end.
I love your videos! I listen to them while I fall asleep and whenever I hear the intro I'm whisked away to the X-files :)
This case bares many similarities to the Missing 411 cases.
It sure does. I'm from the UK & Todmorden not that far down the road from me.
Great episode. Sad story with alot of unanswered questions. Well done.
Ask yourself how he became on a pile of coal with a white shirt on and he was clean and the P.C who found him just happened to have is close encounter himself.
weird re-clothing is a "symptom" David Paulides talks about in his missing people cases. When bodies are found, with his cases, often the clothing is all wrongly put on, sometimes its not even the victim's clothes. And in his cases, the bodies often turn up in weird, out of the way places - or they suddenly turn up in places people searching for the victims could not possibly have missed them. Poor bugger! Anyways, love the show, got some good ones here.
Susan Griffiths It's a well known (but bizarre) symptom of hypothermia to strip off clothing, check out "paradoxical undressing".
Also, in a survival situation it would make sense to do things that might seem wierd with clothes- like tying a shirt around your foot for blisters, or pants around your head to block some of the sun. No one plans to get lost, so you're forced to use what you have with you for as much as you can.
I can't even imagine.
I was thinking the same thing!
*The same thing as Susan
A lot of this can be answered simply by the fact that it was 1980. Crime labs weren't advanced at all, they didn't even have DNA testing yet. Bad detective work could explain many other aspects which was and still remains to be a problem to this day. Never discount the irrational mind of a jealous lover either. The husband with the retraining order could easily have decided Adamski was either having an affair with his ex-wife or simply mad he was supplying her with protection from him. Torture gone wrong, heart attack, outdated science can't identify the "ointment", dump him in a bizarre spot to leave people baffled which worked so well we're still talking about it. Jumping to it being aliens is a wild leap and an example of why Occam's razor should be applied until nothing else remains. I cut hair for a living and was able to posit a reasonable possibility so I'm sure the truth is even more simple than my example but is somehow being overlooked.
I really wish the gel could be retested today with all the scientific advancements over the past decades, if it could be identified at least it would put an end to one part of the mystery and could help piece together what happened, like who would’ve had access to that sort of substance back then
Aliens: Hyper advanced species with technology capable of bending space-time to allow them to travel billions of light years to earth and put people in suspended animation.
Also aliens: Can't reverse simple cardiac arrest and treat burns with useless ointment.
They just forgot the medical officer that day
"Reverse cardiac arrest"? They couldn't even reverse a simple cardigan!
@@w8m4n reverse a cardigan lol great. and not button up a shirt. my 3 year old niece can do that better
@@ThePuschkin1986 haha, master interstellar travel then struggle to work out which way a head is facing.
@@w8m4n IKR, they mastered utterly complex technologies but were unable to put the clothes of Mr Adamski back on him the way it was, imagine how intelligent one ought to be to accomplish something even a 6 year old can do without any help .......
Coworker finally had enough of Adamski’s coal puns. “Hey, I didn’t have time to do laundry last night, so my soot is dirty!...y’know?! My soot is dirty😁!” “🤨 Not anymore, Zigmund.”
You mean coal-workers lol get it because they are co-workers. And they collect coal.
A classic mystery. I'm a born cynic but this is a really strange case which I first read about back in the late 80's. And however cynical you are, the dumping of the body in broad daylight, with no disturbance to the coal heap and no coal residue/dirt on the clothing is inexplicable.
The Alan Godfrey incident would make for a good Bedtime Stories episode. Just going to put that out there. :)
the interesting thing about extraterrestrials is that we as humans always assume that they are far more intelligent than us, and that their reasons/motives far exceed any of our understanding
could you actually do the policeman's story, please?
I wonder if the supposed lack of trace evidence and the inability to identify the gel was in some part caused by poor forensics? This was 1980 in a rural area after all; the local police department and crime scene investigators probably didn't have an ideal amount of technologies and techniques to work with. It's possible there may have been something at the scene of the crime the police missed that could have helped explain what happened to Adamski.
Yeah. People jump to "the lab couldn't identify the gel, therefore aliens" but the truth is that unlike what watching CSI might have you believe, the forensic lab is not infallible. Forensics were still pretty primitive in 1980 compared to now, and this case likely wasn't a priority at the time.
There are two rational explanations for Adamski's injuries:
1. Adamski was tortured, possibly by a party to the family feud, as members of his family maintain. Or (speculation) it might have had something to do with the mines. Adamski was a coal miner by trade, he was from a communist country, and there was a lot of industrial action and social unrest over the decline in coal mining in the UK at that time. He could have been caught up in some kind of labor dispute gone violent.
2. Adamski was apparently undergoing an acupuncture treatment that involved burning balls of material being pushed onto his skin. One such treatment could have gone wrong, thus explaining the burns and the missing shirt.
Either way, the missing watch and wallet are a big smoking gun that points to a criminal culprit. Missing valuables points to a greed motive.
and it was 1980 and he was an immigrant and i don't think they bother that much to identify the gel
I think the aliens wanted to BBQ the cows and play a prank on Zigmund, but they instead played a prank on the cows and BBQ'd Zigmund.
Hahahaha
A simple clerical error
Wow good one
Just because his wallet and items missing doesn't rule out extraterrestrials.
I’m stumped. Not too good at solving mysteries, not me. If he had been murdered by humans, either intentionally or unintentionally, I don’t see how putting him on the ash heap helps the perpetrators in any way?
I am getting Cold War vibes. What if Adamski was more than just an ordinärt coalminer? Or that some Security or Intelligence service
believed he was more than that.
All you need to drop him like that is a helicopter
What about the burns on his neck?
I thought that to begin with too, as it was very difficult to come to the UK from Poland at the time. However it seems Mr Adamski had a lot of family already there, presumably they resettled before the Cold War/ Iron Curtain days or were WW2 refugees that somehow made it out of mainland Europe. That would have given him a mundane reason to be granted residency & for authorities in both countries to greenlight the emigration.
Who here wants to see this episode rebooted and Alan Godfrey’s full story told?
There is good docco from the 80's or 90s on YT............It gives a good account w/ lots of footage of Alan, there is also a clip w/ David Icke from back in the day...........Ta............
I'm inclined to think that whoever redressed him was in a hurry/panicking rather than unfamiliar with putting on clothes.
That's very possible, but still doesn't answer how they got him to the top of the pile, or why.
It is weird that the policeman had two paranormal experiences. Saw this on the Brit TV show strange but true.
Yes, his story, although it has a less tragic ending, was much creepier to me. Especially when he looked up and realized he had moved down the road, lost time, and his boots were torn!
I've had multiple paranormal experiences. I guess some people get lucky. Plus the fact that he was a cop & it was his job to investigate stuff makes it more likely that he'd have more than 1 experience? Especially if aliens were active in the area at that time?
I love this music. Cayleigh Elise (who now is gone from TH-cam, and I miss her!) used to use that music in her nameless series videos.
You know why people lose time? It's not because people are knocked out and abducted.
It's because the gravity engines that the crafts use warp spacetime and apparently seem to shoot time forward, I believe relative to the distance that the crafts travel. Space and time are not separate, they are conjoined, so bending space with gravity to travel faster than lightspeed will also move time forward
Actually earthly reason for his death is more creepy than ET
i'm gonna say, it's not easy to dress an uncooperative person/a cadaver. it's quite possible that if a kidnapper was in a hurry, they would not manage to dress the victim perfectly.
@H M hahahaha no haha!!!! *sweat drops*
I'm watching all the episodes. Truly riveting.
I'm not saying it was aliens but....it was aliens.
I wonder why no one considers the Polish secret service behind it? The Cold War is not so long ago - and Poland was a communist dictatorship when he, as you put it, "relocated" (i. e. fled) to the UK. In my opinion, everything points in the direction of a secret service - the fact, that he was dumped at a place where he would soon be found, so his death could be a warning to other people who fled. The fact, that he had burns (from torture maybe). The fact, that he was hastily dressed, so he was during his absence obviously undressed to humiliate him. And so on.
That's a good point. But I wonder whether the Polish secret police would bother to track him down to kill him. Was he famous? There were a lot of people who had left Communist countries during those dark times.
@@baruchben-david4196 Somewhere in the comments I read that he was a scientist. Or was it in the video itself? Wherever it was - if he was a scientist that had fled Poland, that would be enough reason for the secret service to go after him.
It was impossible for ordinary person to leave communist Poland in that time. He was eather connected to secret services, or fled on his own which was extremely difficult and rare case.
They had many more pressing concerns than killing retired coal miners. Plus, if they wanted to send a message, there would have been some evidence left behind that tacitly identified them as being involved so that others knew. There was none, so it would have been pointless.
Sounds like a case for David Politis, who is the author of Missing 411.
He was where I actually first heard about this. He mentioned it in a podcast interview he did with someone
I grew up just 5 miles from Todmorden, can't believe I've never heard of this before. Mind you I was only 3 in 1980.... Another fun fact , PC Godfrey attended , I'll have to google and check but I'm sure its the same name as the policeman from Todmorden who was abducted by Aliens around the same time (early 80s),.
What I do know is that Tod ( as we call it) is a hotbed of paranormal incidents. A lot of witchcraft and occult groups down there too. Weird vibe in Tod. Grim place.
Wow, so didn't expect this to be in Tod of all places when I clicked .
@Camel King Clarith - weird little town. Lots of witch covens, black magic cults , drugs ... Its always cold wet and grim. Spooky place.
Dumping the body on a coal pile might seem odd. Yet we should consider that the culprit or culprits may have wanted it to be found. Maybe guilt over an accidental killing. Maybe a warning to others. Or maybe they wanted to avoid a drawn out missing persons investigation that could point to criminal activities. The man's watch and wallet was missing, to me that points to criminal involvement in the body dump.
Theory - he had a heart attack. Someone who was there during the heart attack tried to implement electric shocks (using home electrical appliances) in order to revive the victim which caused 2nd-degree burns. Used ointment to heal his burns after it. When Zigmund died, the person was so scared he/she moved the body in an attempt to cover up the whole incident out of fear that he/she would be accused of a murder.
How about the clean body and clothes?
Why would they remove the clothes ?
Why wasn't the ointment identified??? It was tested against 6500 other substances and couldn't be identified?
@@BurtonRdForever there are so many different ointment and I can't imagine they spent all that much money on NMR, and IR (or other spectral) spectroscopy, chronograpy, ect. That stuff is expensive
@@walker5653 remove any evidence that they had touched him perhaps?
I live in Todmorden and this story is chilling! Love the channel
You can't expect the alien drone worker class to know how to dress a human because they wear one piece, atomically aligned, fitted bodysuits. And that sounds outlandish and ridiculous, but it's probably the truth in this case.
Rest in Peace Mr. Adamski.
I feel like we should get a video about what the police officer said during his hipnosys
There is plenty of information about PC Godfrey online interesting he was there to find him
They went to tag him, and he up and had a heart attack. They could not revive him. So they dumped him. It's a thing.
As good an explanation as any, given the circumstances.
His body on the coal pile as well as alien activity can be explained in several ways: For one aliens have nothing to hide in the sense that they will not have to face legal repercussions. Therefore, placing his body in a locked area in broad daylight is not something they would be overly incentivized not to do. Also, his body being on the pile without any trace of climbing the pile indicates that it is not farfetched to say that he was placed there from above. Three, when you consider the area has been known to experience UFO activity that makes alien activity even more probable. Also, the gel like substance could not be explained by science indicating the substance may be from another world.
david wyn-jones No one knows, hence it being a mystery
Who else wants to hear Godfrey's story?
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Ah the golden age of bedtime stories
I feel like Greys (aka the common depiction of aliens) have three main kinds of reasons for abductions: older, smarter scientist greys probably abduct for research purposes only and are rather benign, the culinary team who are responsible for cattle and livestock mutilations because space aliens need to eat too, and then there are younger intern greys who're literally just pranksters and like to have fun with stupid humans and cattle, sometimes moving cows around for laughs (this may also explain some things at skinwalker ranch) or pretending to be much scarier than they really are with butt probe threats. And in this case, maybe a prank went too far and the scientist greys had to scold their foolish interns, treating the man after an accident, but in vain. And after some deliberation, they tried to fix their mistake by returning the corpse. maybe one grey wanted to leave a note but the older ones decided against it... If there was a more extraterrestrial reason for this death, this could be the reason why.
Well, that drawing of him tied up gave me an idea. Maybe he’d been indulging in some BDSM and died of heart attack while doing so.
Burn marks etc and the fact that he was fed and looked after.
Because he died, his partner in bedroom frolics panicked and tried to make it look like a mysterious disappearance.
Perhaps the partner was another man. Who knows.
God knows how he got onto the coal heap though.
This was my immediate suspicion.
Battery acid would do a LOT more damage that second degree burns!! Sounds almost like a too hot and too long shower- especially on the back of the neck and upper shoulders. (And yes, you definitely CAN be burned by your own home shower, as crazy as it sounds.)
Maybe he ran away with a man from work, had a heart attack, and his lover put him in a place he would be found right away- you wouldn't want a person you care about decomposing somewhere. They don't mention him having other injuries to his body, (maybe took a super hot shower while drinking or feeling guilty?) and was shaving, eating, showering, had clean clothes etc... In a small coal mining town in the 1980s it would probably be pretty hard for the other man to come out as gay, and there are similar cases in the BDSM community- the people weren't muderers, they just didn't want to be found out or have to explain themselves to the police.
Just a random thought.
Considering he was Polish, it's likely he was a catholic. Poland as it is, is one of the most religious nations amongst Christian countries in Europe, there alongside Ireland, Italy and so on. And that's today. He was born in 1920s so it's logical to think he was likely even more religious that nowadays Poles are.
Now consider the fact that Christianity has for a long time been against homosexuality, one might guess that it's unlikely that he had a lover and a man at that.
Instead, considering he came from Eastern Bloc, I see it more likely he got interrogated and possibly murdered by either MI6 or more likely KGB. I would exclude Polish intelligence however, since Peoples Republic of Poland, being an "allied" state of the USSR, would be unlikely to partake in such action on its own. Not to mention it was about as effective as modern day British cops are at stopping terrorists attacks (so not a lot)... KGB and MI6 on the other hand...
Funny, I thought he might've gone for a BDSM adventure and unexpectedly had a heart attack, too. Would explain hasty/incorrect dressing of his body and leaving it out of the way, but where he'd soon be found.
The cold war theories are interesting, too.
@@smiglo112 Not forgetting that the 70's and 80's were the height of the coal miner strikes and there was thought by many to be a lot of communist involved in that, makes Mi5/6 look a more likely culprit, can't see a locked gate keeping those guys out, easy enough to pick a padlock even today.
If it was caused by "aliens", I feel like there's a humorous Coen bros-esque angle from the other side of trying to undo constant fuck-ups and the situation just getting worse
Hahaha i can imagine that🤣
Cohen's Bros Alien Sci-fi dark comedy? I would Love to see it.
I love this idea and it’s not too far fetched. Aliens can fuck up too😂
I think whoever dumped his body, wanted it to be found to send a message to someone. Polish Mafia, family vendetta, something like that.
I'd like to see an in depth analysis on the death of Dr David Kelly.
the story pictures just so simple and amazing
The art of jumping to conclusion..."hmm he was missing for a week but was found clean shaven and looks like he's been eating well. Maybe he was shaving and eating normally. ....buuuuuuut on the other hand maybe he was abducted by Aliens and held in stasis so that his facial hair didn't grow and his body didn't digest his food so it only appears that he's had a shave and eaten?"
Lol. How'd the body get there.? Within a 4 hour period there still should be tracks on the pile. Unless there was a conveyor belt above no one saw. I'm sure that's happened.
1980 ...the same year my dad saw a ufo .
Adamski lived only a few miles from where we lived at that time in Wakefield.
If Zigmund Adamski was tortured, maybe the strange substance on his skin was conductive gel. And maybe they had to move him quickly so they dressed him badly because it is always harder to dress someone else rather than yourself. Then they just disposed of him. As for how they got on the premises, maybe they were already there from the earlier shift.
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"Modern science could not identify the gel." You mean that a couple of investigators in a rural part of England were unable to identify it. Chances are good that they lacked the equipment and training to make a thorough analysis of a gel they didn't recognize. It's not as though the full weight of modern science was brought to bear on the problem. It sounds dramatic, but modern science never had a good look at the gel.
You're speculating... Sorry. It was actually analysed at a lab in Leeds.
For all we know it could have been and the results were still the same . I am sure it has been it's too an interesting case . These cases are opened all the time and only reported on when something has changed
The lab it was sent into was in Leeds which isn't rural or as backwards as people like to think
the gel was made in china. there. i called it.
@@BedtimeStoriesChannel you do say in the beginning that it was a "home lab" if i remember right.
@@chrisragnar1 No, we said it was tested at a "home office" laboratory. The UK Home Office is one of the highest authorities regarding regulations on anything from housing, environmental compliance, welfare, health and, yes, even laboratory testing. In other words, the laboratory it was tested at was an official one, in compliance with strict regulations.
I love your channel, your stories are really good and creepy. Great stuff.
Interesting as usually. Thank you!
So the policeman featured in this case was the original Agent "Spooky" Mulder?
I believe
There's actually a program called Shaun Ryder on UFO's where they speak to this expoliceman about this case+others,Shaun Ryder was frontman from a group called Happy Mondays+he investigates with the American Travis(can't remember surname)from the most famous alien abduction story out there as made into a film-fire in the sky
Sorry the actual policeman who reported UFO+was at the coal heap not just a policeman but the policeman
"It's impossible to dismiss alien abduction". It's very possible. In fact, I just did. The man was tortured. The torturer did not, apparently, intend to actually kill him, probably just intimidate. Hence the ointment applied. However, Adamski's heart failed, leading to his death. In a panic he was hurriedly redressed and his body was dumped. Sometimes the most mundane explanations are far more interesting than "aliens did it!".
MrArgus11111 why would u torture a coal miner?
If you watch the video, he had already had altercations within his family involving a woman in which he was threatened.
Also doesn't explain the dumping of the body in broad daylight in a locked facility with zero trace of evidence around the body. YOU don't get to assume anything either, smart ass.
@mrargus : the man would identify his torturers once released, so if torture is what his captors did (and that looks likely), then they planned to murder him. If it was a family person behind it, though, why go through the risk of holding him captive, which significantly increases the chances of getting caught? Weird case.
Wait did the police or anyone ever ask the shop he was supposed to be visiting if he had arrived? Didn't seem like that was mentioned.
From what I read, the last person they could confirm saw him alive was a neighbor he greeted on his way to the store so it's likely he didn't make it there.