Another great review from RevZilla. Your reviews are the best, not just butt kissing the manufacturers like so many of the professional testers out there. Keep mentioning your size Spurge! It's important the voice of the taller rider is being heard as manufacturers pursue lower and lower seat heights as a selling point. Alright for some. Knees up around your chin anyone?
I get it. I think there is a big push right now for creating easy to ride, approachable machines to get new riders into the sport. And with that comes lower seat heights to make the bike appear less intimidating. But like you said, while that's alright for some, what about new riders that are bigger? While I know a smaller rider might look at a bike like this and think, "Damn, that thing is huge". But for a gentleman (or lady), who is over six-foot, this becomes a comfortable beginner bike or second bike or main bike. I bought my '05 T-100 as a beginner bike and it became my "everything" bike because it was all I could afford. Even that people said I looked too big for. It's all relative I suppose. I am just lucky that I enjoy riding smaller bikes! Thanks for watching man! I appreciate the kind words.
Well as a shorter rider all I can say is " its about f**in time " !! For years bikes have been built with no thought for anyone with less than a 31" inside leg measurement and no adjustment without major mechanical work.
Spurgeon what are the best classic/retro modern bikes for tall inseam riders? I'm 6'1" but with a 34"/88cm inseam. I'd consider the Scrambler, but I like cool running bikes in hot weather - no pipes against the legs! Cheers
I got one of these last month as a left over and am loving the thing . 2000 miles so far. I ride 70% bumpy (really beautiful ) back roads here in north western ct... 20% dirt roads and 10% highway .. THis bike has set me free..I was on a great 1700 Road Star and was having to put new tires on every 3K because of its 750 pounds and the stone & oil back roads and gravel I was hitting .. I would discribe this bike as a perfect back road roadster .. No bike is perfect but for my use it is really good.. The water cooing has a fan that comes on magicaly if you are in town when it's hot in slow traffic .. The suspention is light but with the pegs are in the right spot to make it easy to stand (or post) if you see something coming up .. The tank gets about 165 to 175 miles for range but we have lots of gas stations .. The seat is really good .. (It is too small for my wife but I could get the flat seat for her )and I need a bigger rack for rain gear anyway .. Solo it is fine .. I put a center stand on for chain work at 500 miles and will get heated grips as the fall comes on . Spurgeon if you are ever in Litchfield County Ct stop by my pottery shop and I will show you some amazing roads ... All the best and thanks for the great review ..YOurs Guy
Anytime! The holidays really help me to maintain my weight and I am not old enough to start shrinking yet so I imagine I have a few more years of tackling these reviews at my current size!
Thanks for watching. Yeah, I have 76,000 miles on an old T-100 that's my personal bike. I am interested to see how these engines hold up compared to the old 865cc mills. I would imagine with the liquid cooling and the way they're tuned these engines are going to run forever as well.
Spurgeon , I tried the BMW F800 gs . The Moto Guzzi V7 Stone iii and this .. All three covered a lot of what I am after .. All the electronics on the little GS seemed like more things to break .. I loved the Guzzi but since I will be using the bike on maybe 15% dirt roads here in Connecticut I went for a left over 2017 Street Scrambler.. . I have two days and 300 miles in and I love this back road roadster .. The pegs are underneath one so you can post when you see a bigger bump coming and the bike is planted on the bumpy twisties I love .. With 3.2 gallons and 50 miles to the gallon I wish she had a larger gas tank but there is always something .. I will get heated grips in the fall a center stand and I need a big flat seat and a rear rack for rain-gear .. If you are ever in New England stop by my pottery shop ..SO many great roads to show you ..Yours Guy
You should review the ducati desert sled, looks pretty sweet and I'd like to know if its actually capable off-road unlike a few of the new scrambler inspired bikes
Killer first ride review... Absolutely crushed it. I'd just be worried about the exhaust being so close to where I'd imagine squeezing the tank, any hot crotch issues? Hope you got to enjoy some more of Spain while you were there!
I didn't have any issues with the heat, but it was like 50 degrees outside. It was a little bulky on the right side when I was trying to stand up, but nothing super distracting. I'd be interested to ride it in the heat of the summer but I can't imagine it would be any hotter than my old VFR 800 or my current Tiger 800. Thanks for the kind words on the review, duder!
Hello Spurgeon , Water cooled and a Scrambler is a stretch for me .. This bike looks like fun though . Man with this, the BMW Pure and that crazy new Triumph Bobber (small tank and small head light kind of a deal breaker but I cant wait to see the thing and sit on one through a good turn ) . We seem to be seeing some very playful bikes coming into the market-place !
Simply not true. My KTM 450 has a plastic skid plate and it has held up very well to harsh enduro riding, hitting rocks, logs and sticks. Just because its plastic doesn't mean is non functional.
MrFunnyMonkey it comes down to the type of plastic. Without having more time to actually test this and abuse it, it's hard to say. I've smashed up an aluminum skid plate pretty good already so I'm a bit hesitant to trust a plastic one to a nearly 500 pound Scrambler. My point is, as this is a first ride review, I am going to stick with my statement that this is a potential fail point until we have more time with the bike to test it... (ie- I really just want more time to rip on this bike and try to break something... because it's my job... not at all because it's fun... that has nothing to do with it... I'm nothing if not a professional...)
What is the predominant failure mode of skid plates? Do they transfer impact into the frame or into the parts they're protecting? Does the plate sit right up close to the sump and exhaust headers?
A skid plate serves a variety of functions. In its most basic form, it is designed to keep rocks and debris from bouncing off the bottom of the engine. As you begin to tackle bigger woops and rock gardens, it's job is less about protecting items from hitting the engine and more about protecting the engine from items you are hitting. Also, as mentioned above, it also helps the bottom of the bike to slide over rocks and logs in extreme conditions. From a failure standpoint it depends more on the construction of the plate itself. If it's plastic you could see the plate crack or shatter under the force of a blow. If it's a metal plate that's constructed using a riveted design, those rivets could fail causing the skid plate to fall apart. And if you take a big hit on an aluminum plate, it could bend far enough that it's sitting against the engine itself resulting in a lack of protection from future blows. But i would recommend getting away from the word "fail" or "failure" for the majority of the plates out there. Keep in mind that, as with most forms of crash protection, they're designed to do a specific job. If you take a huge blow to the skid plate to the point where it needs to be replaced, that's not a failure if your bike keeps running. It did its job, it protected the engine case, now it's time to replace it. Most skid plates are mounted to a variety of points, such as the engine and the frame, that changes based on the brand plate and where they believe protection is best served. Using rubber mounted brackets anywhere from 3/4" to an inch thick in most cases, the force of a blow is dispersed to four to six locations as opposed to just one, thus minimizing damage to the machine. I hope this helps to answer your question. Please let me know if there is anything else I can offer up to help with your understanding!
Spurgeon Dunbar so maybe? if can do a shout out to me , I got a 87 Honda Rebel and I know there not monsters but there fun for the city not the highway. I had mine for a year now , but Harley and I are trying to get me on a 2012 Road King . I was telling them too much bike for my second bike but they said it's just a mind thing . what do yall think? Thanks Nate Silva
They really weren't bad. Those heat shields worked pretty well. There was definitely a bit more heat on the right thigh than something like the Street Twin would be giving off with its low slung exhaust, but nothing unbearable. The engine in my old VFR 800 or current Tiger 800 XCx is as noticeable as this was. Then again, I was riding on a cool winter morning where temps were in the 40s and 50s. It might be a different story in the middle of August. Guess we'll have to see about getting one to test out a bit more!
nice reply to my #1 issue with the high pipes! I got burned A LOT as a kid on the only bike I had at the time. I'm in love with the idea of a vintage dual purpose...but honestly, I can't get past the feeling those high pipes would add some more scars! (I do STILL have permanent burn marks on my right calf - and I'm 50 now! lol)
Solocanoe forget about it. Not in an Italian way. Actually forget it. The heat shield is superb. Apart from a little warmth, you'll feel nothing I promise you. Triumph thought about this.
Solocanoe Don't worry about the heat! It's a bit wormer true, don't touch plastic black part of shield with bear hands (tried it, didn't love ot:-)) and you'll be fine.
FYI. If you drop the street range of Triumphs on the left side, even at very low speeds, ( as I have ) you wont be riding it home. The gear selector shaft will bend. In my opinion this is a massive weakness in triumphs design, especially in the off road style of bike, but also generally. I have the ST and although it is not a complicated fix, it is a pain in the ass. Being used to bikes that you can fall off, bend it strait again and go, I have found these bikes to be very fragile. I am planning to get or make solid foot rests instead of the fold ups to hopefully prevent impact on the gear lever should it ever happens again. Just an idea am working on. Checking out other forums this seems to be a common problem. Just thought this may be of some interest.
Does the location of the exhaust help with the heat issue more on the 17 than it did on prior Scramblers? I test rode the 2016 and with the temps in the mid 80's F, after about 20 minutes in traffic, my leg was on fire. I wanted the Scrambler, but just couldn't deal with the heat since I knew it would get almost 20 degrees warmer later in the summer here in Texas... I kept thinking, I dealt with some serious heat from my Buell Ulysses, but this was a bit too much. I can only hope that the heat situation is better with the new bike.
Do you mean the Daytona 675? The Daytona is pretty long in the tooth now, so I think it's more likely you'd see us review the new Street Triple 765 perhaps. -DrewZilla
N Johnson I talked about the pipes a bit more in the written review, they get warm, but the heat shields work pretty well. If anything you'll notice a sweaty thigh in the summer months. But nothing worse than the heat my Tiger 800 or old Honda VFR gave off.
It seems like while on road, while on more agressive turns, it is not hard to drag the pedals. Did you experienced problems with this? If yes, what would you suggest? Just look around for another bike?
Yes, Spurgeon was able to scrape the pegs on more aggressive turns. If you want to avoid that, then you might consider a different bike with more lean angle. -DrewZilla
Hello, nice review. Do you recommend this bike as a first bike for a beginner? I have no experience with riding a bike, however, I would like to buy this one. Thank you for your advice.
For Spurgeon, he finds cruisers uncomfortable, so he prefers the comfort of the Scrambler. It's different for different people, so definitely go sit on one or ride one if you can. -DrewZilla
We didn't check specifically, since they're pretty necessary, but from all the photos I can find, they appear to be removable with a few bolts. Just keep in mind that pipe wrap can lead the exhaust to rust. -DrewZilla
The heat wasn't that bad. The heat shields worked pretty well. I didn't try housing a passenger on the back but the design is pretty thought out. I had no problem using a passenger on the old Scrambler and I wouldn't be too worried here either. At worst, just make sure they exit the bike on the left side. I pretty much train all my passengers, on all my bikes, to step on and up like they are getting on a horse. On the larger ADV bikes, it's really the only way to access the pillion seat.
yep it's really a shame, knowing also that you can turn a street twin into a scrambler with the optional parts from triumph, and then......you can turn the ABS off.
I have had my Scrambler for over Ten year now.I have made some simple changes on it, to make it lighter and stronger ,has it is a heavy bike, triumph could really moved forward with the bike ,instead of just add more crap to it,that it does not need, strip it down and its a great bike, who puts a brake caliper on which is so lower to the ground, that if you were to do some real off the roading ,you would get all dirty in it, or dampage it,they need to go back and look at the earlier desert sledge ,for ideas,
Hey revzilla, I am a huge fan of this bike but since I am a tall rider I am in doubt if this is the perfect bike for me. On video the bike looks a little on the small side and I was wondering if that is an issue for tall riders. (I am 6.2 ft) Thanks in advance!
In the video, Spurgeon is about 6 ft. 3 in., so he's similar to you in height. You'd probably be fine with it, but I'd recommend going to a Triumph dealer to sit on one yourself. -DrewZilla
Looks cool, but i would prefer to buy the Benelli Leoncino, it's going to be cheaper, looks better, has better tyres for offroad, and i'm sure it will be very economic in fuel cosumption
Assembly is done in one of Triumph's own factories in Thailand (Factory 4 I believe). Components come from the UK, Germany, Japan, Thailand, and elsewhere. -DrewZilla
Scramblers have traditionally run both pipes high on the right side of the bike. For riding off-road, you want the exhaust up and away from rocks on the ground. -DrewZilla
It depends on your location. Here in the US, the speedometer is in MPH. Most other places in the world, the speedometer is in KMPH. In the video, it was blurry, but it appears to be KMPH (which makes sense for being in Spain). -DrewZilla
Please do the review of the new Scrambler 1200. Especially interested to you ropinion from a standpoint of taller rider. I love the classic bikes but I can not ride them as they look like kids' bicycle under me. I am 6'5" and 250 lbs. It seems that the new scrambler 1200 is signifcantly larger and taller. Perhaps it will fit us fat and tall guys :)
did anyone ride the new street scrambler and the old scrambler 14" 15"?? is this street scrambler so much better than the old model? I want to get one of these two next month and i just want to ask for a Foreign opinion on these. Its all about these new stuff about "too much elektronics on a bike compared to the old one. Wich would you TOTALY recommend. Thanks for answers :)
I am a biker-noob, so maybe some of you can explain the following question to me: Isn't the exhaust of the Scrambler getting hot? I mean your legs are above them. I just know car exhaust pipes, and they are getting very hot. One time I set the grass beneath my car on fire. :)
I'm 6ft 1.5in and I fit perfectly. Considering I'm in the 90th percentile of US men's height (and around the 95th or 96th considering all human adults, male and female, all nationalities) I think Triumph did a decent job in catering for normal sized human beings...
Euro 5 rules, is it? This marks the death of air/oil cooled machines? (Well... I guess technical not just yet, since they're some, if not all, gooses still air cooled! :)
If you're ever curious about the gear Lem and I wear in the reviews all you have to do is click the "Show more" tab, just above the comments section. We include links for all of the gear used in the reviews. @doubledoubleandfries is correct. It's the Alpinestars Brera. www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/alpinestars-brera-leather-jacket
I am living my life one ZZ Top song at a time. My pink ones broke so I have moved on to these. The nice thing about $10 sunglasses is they never last long as they break easily. Who knows what I'll have by the next review!
6:45 this is one of most beautiful speedometers i've ever seen
Another great review from RevZilla. Your reviews are the best, not just butt kissing the manufacturers like so many of the professional testers out there. Keep mentioning your size Spurge! It's important the voice of the taller rider is being heard as manufacturers pursue lower and lower seat heights as a selling point. Alright for some. Knees up around your chin anyone?
I get it. I think there is a big push right now for creating easy to ride, approachable machines to get new riders into the sport. And with that comes lower seat heights to make the bike appear less intimidating. But like you said, while that's alright for some, what about new riders that are bigger? While I know a smaller rider might look at a bike like this and think, "Damn, that thing is huge". But for a gentleman (or lady), who is over six-foot, this becomes a comfortable beginner bike or second bike or main bike.
I bought my '05 T-100 as a beginner bike and it became my "everything" bike because it was all I could afford. Even that people said I looked too big for. It's all relative I suppose. I am just lucky that I enjoy riding smaller bikes! Thanks for watching man! I appreciate the kind words.
Well as a shorter rider all I can say is " its about f**in time " !! For years bikes have been built with
no thought for anyone with less than a 31" inside leg measurement and no adjustment without major
mechanical work.
Spurgeon what are the best classic/retro modern bikes for tall inseam riders? I'm 6'1" but with a 34"/88cm inseam. I'd consider the Scrambler, but I like cool running bikes in hot weather - no pipes against the legs! Cheers
MrBojangles I’d like to know this too. Spurg’?
It's probably due to most of the population being under 6 foot.... what's the point in scaring off smaller riders just to cater to tall riders?
I f***ing love these, Triumph has been putting out some amazing bikes! :D
I got one of these last month as a left over and am loving the thing . 2000 miles so far. I ride 70% bumpy (really beautiful ) back roads here in north western ct... 20% dirt roads and 10% highway .. THis bike has set me free..I was on a great 1700 Road Star and was having to put new tires on every 3K because of its 750 pounds and the stone & oil back roads and gravel I was hitting .. I would discribe this bike as a perfect back road roadster .. No bike is perfect but for my use it is really good.. The water cooing has a fan that comes on magicaly if you are in town when it's hot in slow traffic .. The suspention is light but with the pegs are in the right spot to make it easy to stand (or post) if you see something coming up .. The tank gets about 165 to 175 miles for range but we have lots of gas stations .. The seat is really good .. (It is too small for my wife but I could get the flat seat for her )and I need a bigger rack for rain gear anyway .. Solo it is fine .. I put a center stand on for chain work at 500 miles and will get heated grips as the fall comes on . Spurgeon if you are ever in Litchfield County Ct stop by my pottery shop and I will show you some amazing roads ... All the best and thanks for the great review ..YOurs Guy
Never clicked so fast
If these reviews were a TV show, I would buy a cable box just to watch them
I'm a bigger guy and I had to upgrade to some Öhlins suspension on my last generation Scrambler. That definitely helped handling and clearance issues.
Hey Spurgeon, You are one of about three reviewers I can think of who are close to my height and weight. So thank you.
Anytime! The holidays really help me to maintain my weight and I am not old enough to start shrinking yet so I imagine I have a few more years of tackling these reviews at my current size!
Beautiful little bike. So well made, that engine will run forever. Great review as always, my favourite bike channel by miles :) Thanks for the upload
Thanks for watching. Yeah, I have 76,000 miles on an old T-100 that's my personal bike. I am interested to see how these engines hold up compared to the old 865cc mills. I would imagine with the liquid cooling and the way they're tuned these engines are going to run forever as well.
Scramblers typically don't impress me, but this one's a beaut. And now you know.
I am featuring this in my video "What are the sexiest motorcycles?" this Friday! With credit to the all mighty REVZILLA of course!!
I want this bike so badly!
You should get one :)
This has been my dream bike for a long time.
great review, thanks so much. Revzilla has a lot of fans here in India.
Spurgeon , I tried the BMW F800 gs . The Moto Guzzi V7 Stone iii and this .. All three covered a lot of what I am after .. All the electronics on the little GS seemed like more things to break .. I loved the Guzzi but since I will be using the bike on maybe 15% dirt roads here in Connecticut I went for a left over 2017 Street Scrambler.. . I have two days and 300 miles in and I love this back road roadster .. The pegs are underneath one so you can post when you see a bigger bump coming and the bike is planted on the bumpy twisties I love .. With 3.2 gallons and 50 miles to the gallon I wish she had a larger gas tank but there is always something .. I will get heated grips in the fall a center stand and I need a big flat seat and a rear rack for rain-gear .. If you are ever in New England stop by my pottery shop ..SO many great roads to show you ..Yours Guy
You should review the ducati desert sled, looks pretty sweet and I'd like to know if its actually capable off-road unlike a few of the new scrambler inspired bikes
Kyle M. Trust me, I'd like to review that one as well.
I'd buy that concept bike in a heartbeat
Is the suspension good off road?
Killer looks nice bike 🏍 always the best reviews on the industry. By the way I just bought the Ducati scrambler classic not bad .
6'3" at 215 pounds huh? so either the truth has come out or Spurg put on 10 pounds since his last review
Steve_Kamrad holidays are a bitch.
Killer first ride review... Absolutely crushed it. I'd just be worried about the exhaust being so close to where I'd imagine squeezing the tank, any hot crotch issues? Hope you got to enjoy some more of Spain while you were there!
I didn't have any issues with the heat, but it was like 50 degrees outside. It was a little bulky on the right side when I was trying to stand up, but nothing super distracting. I'd be interested to ride it in the heat of the summer but I can't imagine it would be any hotter than my old VFR 800 or my current Tiger 800.
Thanks for the kind words on the review, duder!
Hello Spurgeon , Water cooled and a Scrambler is a stretch for me .. This bike looks like fun though . Man with this, the BMW Pure and that crazy new Triumph Bobber (small tank and small head light kind of a deal breaker but I cant wait to see the thing and sit on one through a good turn ) . We seem to be seeing some very playful bikes coming into the market-place !
Yeah, regardless of what you like to ride, 2017 is a good time to be on a bike!
Simply not true. My KTM 450 has a plastic skid plate and it has held up very well to harsh enduro riding, hitting rocks, logs and sticks.
Just because its plastic doesn't mean is non functional.
MrFunnyMonkey you're completely correct. modern polymers that are engineered well can be perfect substitutes for metal.
MrFunnyMonkey it comes down to the type of plastic. Without having more time to actually test this and abuse it, it's hard to say. I've smashed up an aluminum skid plate pretty good already so I'm a bit hesitant to trust a plastic one to a nearly 500 pound Scrambler. My point is, as this is a first ride review, I am going to stick with my statement that this is a potential fail point until we have more time with the bike to test it...
(ie- I really just want more time to rip on this bike and try to break something... because it's my job... not at all because it's fun... that has nothing to do with it... I'm nothing if not a professional...)
MrFunnyMonkey I'd always prefer metal though. Just for piece of mind, plus it looks cool :)
What is the predominant failure mode of skid plates? Do they transfer impact into the frame or into the parts they're protecting? Does the plate sit right up close to the sump and exhaust headers?
A skid plate serves a variety of functions. In its most basic form, it is designed to keep rocks and debris from bouncing off the bottom of the engine. As you begin to tackle bigger woops and rock gardens, it's job is less about protecting items from hitting the engine and more about protecting the engine from items you are hitting. Also, as mentioned above, it also helps the bottom of the bike to slide over rocks and logs in extreme conditions.
From a failure standpoint it depends more on the construction of the plate itself. If it's plastic you could see the plate crack or shatter under the force of a blow. If it's a metal plate that's constructed using a riveted design, those rivets could fail causing the skid plate to fall apart. And if you take a big hit on an aluminum plate, it could bend far enough that it's sitting against the engine itself resulting in a lack of protection from future blows.
But i would recommend getting away from the word "fail" or "failure" for the majority of the plates out there. Keep in mind that, as with most forms of crash protection, they're designed to do a specific job. If you take a huge blow to the skid plate to the point where it needs to be replaced, that's not a failure if your bike keeps running. It did its job, it protected the engine case, now it's time to replace it.
Most skid plates are mounted to a variety of points, such as the engine and the frame, that changes based on the brand plate and where they believe protection is best served. Using rubber mounted brackets anywhere from 3/4" to an inch thick in most cases, the force of a blow is dispersed to four to six locations as opposed to just one, thus minimizing damage to the machine.
I hope this helps to answer your question. Please let me know if there is anything else I can offer up to help with your understanding!
would you review new 2017 Honda Rebel?
Nate Silva are you kidding? Can you imagine how much fun Lem and I could have on a pair of Rebels?
Spurgeon Dunbar
so maybe? if can do a shout out to me , I got a 87 Honda Rebel and I know there not monsters but there fun for the city not the highway. I had mine for a year now , but Harley and I are trying to get me on a 2012 Road King . I was telling them too much bike for my second bike but they said it's just a mind thing . what do yall think?
Thanks Nate Silva
well that magic feeling of riding a bigger rig fade away very fast...2 weeks later you'd be set in the new routine
How are those shotgun pipes on the leg? Looks like they put a good amount of heat shield there, did it keep the inside of your leg from being roasted?
They really weren't bad. Those heat shields worked pretty well. There was definitely a bit more heat on the right thigh than something like the Street Twin would be giving off with its low slung exhaust, but nothing unbearable. The engine in my old VFR 800 or current Tiger 800 XCx is as noticeable as this was.
Then again, I was riding on a cool winter morning where temps were in the 40s and 50s. It might be a different story in the middle of August. Guess we'll have to see about getting one to test out a bit more!
nice reply to my #1 issue with the high pipes! I got burned A LOT as a kid on the only bike I had at the time. I'm in love with the idea of a vintage dual purpose...but honestly, I can't get past the feeling those high pipes would add some more scars! (I do STILL have permanent burn marks on my right calf - and I'm 50 now! lol)
Solocanoe forget about it. Not in an Italian way. Actually forget it. The heat shield is superb. Apart from a little warmth, you'll feel nothing I promise you. Triumph thought about this.
Solocanoe Don't worry about the heat! It's a bit wormer true, don't touch plastic black part of shield with bear hands (tried it, didn't love ot:-)) and you'll be fine.
FYI. If you drop the street range of Triumphs on the left side, even at very low speeds, ( as I have ) you wont be riding it home. The gear selector shaft will bend.
In my opinion this is a massive weakness in triumphs design, especially in the off road style of bike, but also generally. I have the ST and although it is not a complicated fix, it is a pain in the ass.
Being used to bikes that you can fall off, bend it strait again and go, I have found these bikes to be very fragile. I am planning to get or make solid foot rests instead of the fold ups to hopefully prevent impact on the gear lever should it ever happens again. Just an idea am working on. Checking out other forums this seems to be a common problem.
Just thought this may be of some interest.
Does the location of the exhaust help with the heat issue more on the 17 than it did on prior Scramblers? I test rode the 2016 and with the temps in the mid 80's F, after about 20 minutes in traffic, my leg was on fire. I wanted the Scrambler, but just couldn't deal with the heat since I knew it would get almost 20 degrees warmer later in the summer here in Texas... I kept thinking, I dealt with some serious heat from my Buell Ulysses, but this was a bit too much. I can only hope that the heat situation is better with the new bike.
With the liquid-cooling, the engine shouldn't get as hot, but exhaust heat might still be an issue in extreme Texas heat. -DrewZilla
What model of the Arai helmet and the name of the sunglasses? That is the classic crusier look that is so timeless!
The Arai is the new Signet-X. The sunglasses are about $11 bucks at your local Target.
Would this bike be a good option for a beginner ?
It might be ok for a beginner, though you'd probably still be better off starting on a smaller bike of 300cc or less in engine size. -DrewZilla
RevZilla I appreciate the response thank you!
Hei nice review Spurge.
When do these bikes hit the roads in the US?
They should be hitting showrooms shortly. -DrewZilla
What cc is this?
900cc.
I love the brown leather gloves at the start of this. Do you know what they are?
Yep! They are Triumph's Lothian Gloves.
Here is a link: shop.triumphmotorcycles.com/gloves/id-MGVA16105/Lothian_Glove
Hey Spurgeon, can you review the Triumph Daytona 685? Yammie Noob loves it and I want your opinion too.
Do you mean the Daytona 675? The Daytona is pretty long in the tooth now, so I think it's more likely you'd see us review the new Street Triple 765 perhaps. -DrewZilla
Love the reviews. I would love one of the Indian Chief Dark Horse
Do the pipes burn your leg?
N Johnson I talked about the pipes a bit more in the written review, they get warm, but the heat shields work pretty well. If anything you'll notice a sweaty thigh in the summer months. But nothing worse than the heat my Tiger 800 or old Honda VFR gave off.
It seems like while on road, while on more agressive turns, it is not hard to drag the pedals.
Did you experienced problems with this? If yes, what would you suggest? Just look around for another bike?
Yes, Spurgeon was able to scrape the pegs on more aggressive turns. If you want to avoid that, then you might consider a different bike with more lean angle. -DrewZilla
How comfy is the seat compared to the Street Twin?
Also does it fit on the Street Twin?
Im buying a Twin soon so knowing what options would be best
Both are about the same for comfort. If you want a little more cushion/seat height, Triumph makes a bench seat for the Street Twin. -DrewZilla
they finally gave it a good looking seat
Is the Ducati xDiavel S in the pipeline for a review? I would love to hear your thoughts on that bike.
No yet, but it's one that's on the table for consideration. Good call.
Hello, nice review. Do you recommend this bike as a first bike for a beginner? I have no experience with riding a bike, however, I would like to buy this one. Thank you for your advice.
You probably could get this as a first bike, but you'd be better off riding a smaller bike for a year or two. -DrewZilla
how comfortable is that compared to riding a cruiser? can you do long distance?
For Spurgeon, he finds cruisers uncomfortable, so he prefers the comfort of the Scrambler. It's different for different people, so definitely go sit on one or ride one if you can. -DrewZilla
these guys have been super helpful. so, another question! can all the covers for the exhaust be removed? I'd like to just wrap them.
We didn't check specifically, since they're pretty necessary, but from all the photos I can find, they appear to be removable with a few bolts. Just keep in mind that pipe wrap can lead the exhaust to rust. -DrewZilla
can you feel the heat from the exhaust?
Yes, you can still feel the heat from the exhaust. -DrewZilla
how is the heat from the exhaust for metro city riding. Also, how is it for passengers as their thighs are probably not aligned with the heat shield?
The heat wasn't that bad. The heat shields worked pretty well. I didn't try housing a passenger on the back but the design is pretty thought out. I had no problem using a passenger on the old Scrambler and I wouldn't be too worried here either.
At worst, just make sure they exit the bike on the left side. I pretty much train all my passengers, on all my bikes, to step on and up like they are getting on a horse. On the larger ADV bikes, it's really the only way to access the pillion seat.
Spurgeon Dunbar great. Thanks for the information.
Hello! Which bike is better for a first bike? Street Twin or this Scrambler?? Thanks!!
They're both built on the same platform, so both would be good for a first bike. -DrewZilla
Damn it, where did you buy that jacket?
From us...RevZilla. Link is in the description...and below as well. -DrewZilla
*www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/alpinestars-brera-leather-jacket
Please review the Fantic Caballero machines. Would be awesome!!!
is it better to have ABS off when in dirt?
If you want to skid around with the back wheel and have some fun, then yeah
yep it's really a shame, knowing also that you can turn a street twin into a scrambler with the optional parts from triumph, and then......you can turn the ABS off.
Great review. Too bad about the pinch-weld tank though.
I have had my Scrambler for over Ten year now.I have made some simple changes on it, to make it lighter and stronger ,has it is a heavy bike, triumph could really moved forward with the bike ,instead of just add more crap to it,that it does not need, strip it down and its a great bike, who puts a brake caliper on which is so lower to the ground, that if you were to do some real off the roading ,you would get all dirty in it, or dampage it,they need to go back and look at the earlier desert sledge ,for ideas,
Hey revzilla,
I am a huge fan of this bike but since I am a tall rider I am in doubt if this is the perfect bike for me. On video the bike looks a little on the small side and I was wondering if that is an issue for tall riders. (I am 6.2 ft) Thanks in advance!
In the video, Spurgeon is about 6 ft. 3 in., so he's similar to you in height. You'd probably be fine with it, but I'd recommend going to a Triumph dealer to sit on one yourself. -DrewZilla
Looks cool, but i would prefer to buy the Benelli Leoncino, it's going to be cheaper, looks better, has better tyres for offroad, and i'm sure it will be very economic in fuel cosumption
Hey spurgen i think the teased bike were just one(though two) off builds
Which one is better Ducati Scrambler or Triumph Scrambler
That's a tough call. Both are good road bikes that can also handle some dirt roads. The Ducati requires a bit more maintenance though. -DrewZilla
RevZilla that alone for me would be enough to buy the triumph but from initial impressions it appears the Ducati is the better off reader.
Where is it made?
Assembly is done in one of Triumph's own factories in Thailand (Factory 4 I believe). Components come from the UK, Germany, Japan, Thailand, and elsewhere. -DrewZilla
The tires are fine - there's not much gravel outside of most Starbucks or hipster bars.
Can anyone explain to me why the exhaust is on the right side of the bike?? I have mixed feelings on the location...
Scramblers have traditionally run both pipes high on the right side of the bike. For riding off-road, you want the exhaust up and away from rocks on the ground. -DrewZilla
Ducati scramblers are different. Is it possible to remove the pipes and place them on the bottom? Will it fit down there?
This is not intended as an off-road bike , its a street bike with period off-road styling ...
Is the speedometer in mph or kmph
It depends on your location. Here in the US, the speedometer is in MPH. Most other places in the world, the speedometer is in KMPH. In the video, it was blurry, but it appears to be KMPH (which makes sense for being in Spain). -DrewZilla
Pull the shocks off, throw in the nearest river, install Penske/Ohlins/Racetech/etc.
Fox shocks, man.
That too.
Please do the review of the new Scrambler 1200. Especially interested to you ropinion from a standpoint of taller rider. I love the classic bikes but I can not ride them as they look like kids' bicycle under me. I am 6'5" and 250 lbs. It seems that the new scrambler 1200 is signifcantly larger and taller. Perhaps it will fit us fat and tall guys :)
would it be mor ecomfortoble than a suzuki c50?
That really depends on your own physique. We recommend sitting on both to feel the differences for yourself. -DrewZilla
RevZilla wow you actually answered, thanks a lot! I had an hernia but I think you are right, I will halve to sit. In both
did anyone ride the new street scrambler and the old scrambler 14" 15"?? is this street scrambler so much better than the old model? I want to get one of these two next month and i just want to ask for a Foreign opinion on these. Its all about these new stuff about "too much elektronics on a bike compared to the old one. Wich would you TOTALY recommend. Thanks for answers :)
Dream bike!!
I am a biker-noob, so maybe some of you can explain the following question to me: Isn't the exhaust of the Scrambler getting hot? I mean your legs are above them. I just know car exhaust pipes, and they are getting very hot. One time I set the grass beneath my car on fire. :)
Yes, the exhaust gets hot, but there are also heat shields along the length of the exhaust to reduce the heat transfer. -DrewZilla
Thanks. :)
(Irrelevant comment) Please make a detail breakdown of the Alpinestars Motegi V2 race suit😬
Camera is blocking speedo .....How come?
Nice lookin bike but its smaller than the old one.. its not design for big riders, i wonder about suspension-travel with passenger.
What a shame, Triumph does not get it! This bike is too small for tall riders. They should offer a version for tall riders.
Triumph should offer a thicker seat and taller 'bars as an option. BMW offer a higher seat on their Scrambler.
Seems like all bikes are getting smaller and smaller, unless you ride a ZX-14R, Hayabusa, FJR1300, Concours 14, R1200GS, or some giant cruiser.
I'm 6ft 1.5in and I fit perfectly. Considering I'm in the 90th percentile of US men's height (and around the 95th or 96th considering all human adults, male and female, all nationalities) I think Triumph did a decent job in catering for normal sized human beings...
Euro 5 rules, is it? This marks the death of air/oil cooled machines? (Well... I guess technical not just yet, since they're some, if not all, gooses still air cooled! :)
Triumph have so much street models fuck street scrambler we need pure off road style
2016/17 Harley Roadster 1200 review ever happening?
We shall see how 2017 plays out. I know Lem has a whole list of bikes he's lining up.
Nice bike.
Isn't it mandatory for the first comment to be: "First!"?
well done pronouncing Seville properly
I learned how to order a beer as well!
I'm not a fan of the new scrambler. I'll be keeping my 2015 original scrambler.
too bad they didint made it with a 650...now everything got to have 1000cc
Its already a measly 55HP why would you want even less?
woaaahh you really must be an expert
Maybe a scooter is better for you.
so glad to get your knowledgable input on that, you degenerate old fat mongrel
nice glasses ;)
Dude, its not a dirt bike.
here we go offroad
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rides down dirt road
It's a common mistake in terminology. It needs to be referred to as "off pavement."
Shame about the plastic sump Gard otherwise a great bike, and saving my pennies
on voit peu la moto et t'arrêtes pas de te filmer ! :-( narcissique ????
Slow, Heavy, Gay. But what jacket are you wearing?
Nicholas S looks like the astars brera
If you're ever curious about the gear Lem and I wear in the reviews all you have to do is click the "Show more" tab, just above the comments section. We include links for all of the gear used in the reviews. @doubledoubleandfries is correct. It's the Alpinestars Brera.
www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/alpinestars-brera-leather-jacket
Spurge buddy, ... it wouldn't be a bad thing if you lost those goofy shades! ... Just sayin' ..
I am living my life one ZZ Top song at a time. My pink ones broke so I have moved on to these.
The nice thing about $10 sunglasses is they never last long as they break easily. Who knows what I'll have by the next review!
hipsters