JESUS IS NOT THE FATHER - DR ABEL DAMINA
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If Jesus is not the father, then Jesus can not be God. Hence, Christian are worship idols.
Because God is one, we can't have two separate supreme beings.
Isaiah 9:6-7 "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, EVERLSATING FATHER, Prince of
Please the emphasis should be on "EVERLASTING FATHER".
I wonder
Wonderful
Jesus Christ is 100% the father, he’s the son and he is the Holy Ghost
Scripture makes a clear distinction between the FATHER, SON, and the HOLY GHOST.
John 8:14-19 ESV
[14] Jesus answered, “Even if I do bear witness about myself, my testimony is true, for I know where I came from and where I am going, but you do not know where I come from or where I am going. [15] You judge according to the flesh; I judge no one. [16] Yet even if I do judge, my judgment is true, for it is not I alone who judge, but I and the Father who sent me. [17] In your Law it is written that the testimony of two people is true. [18] I am the one who bears witness about myself, and the Father who sent me bears witness about me.” [19] They said to him therefore, “Where is your Father?” Jesus answered, “You know neither me nor my Father. If you knew me, you would know my Father also.”
There all equal in Godhead but different in person. The Father is who sent the son (Jesus) to save us, and then Jesus came back in the person of the Holy Spirit. They are all equal in Godhead, meaning Jesus is God, but his role is the son within the trinity.
@adrielhylton1400 JESUS is still in bodily form. The HOLY SPIRIT has always existed as the life, wind, and breath of GOD. The HOLY SPIRIT descend upon the SON to anointe HIM for ministry. So the SON doesn't turn into the HOLY SPIRIT because HE already existed.
John 1:32-34 ESV
[32] And John bore witness: “I saw the Spirit descend from heaven like a dove, and it remained on Him. [33] I myself did not know Him, but He who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘He on whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this is He who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’ [34] And I have seen and have borne witness that this is the Son of God.”
John 14:16-17 ESV
[16] And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, [17] even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.
@@s4cakagospelgorillaz98You are correct they all existed before time. I didn’t mean to misconstrue that because I do understand that. I wasn’t taking away that, but I wasn’t saying that’s when the Holy Spirit came about, that’s just when Jesus said he would send a comforter.
“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”
Genesis 1:26 KJV
God says in “our image” which is plural. So I understand that they all (The Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit) existed before the beginning of time
@@adrielhylton1400 amen, amen!
❤ thanks pastor Abel, no matter how you explain and simplifies, they'll still contradict you, because they're very grieved for exposing the truth fervently.😮
but was it not the same Dr. Damina who said JESUS IS THE FATHER? why is it that when he makes a mistake or contradicts himself or teach FALSEHOOD you still swallow anything he says? This is what Apostle Paul in the Bible said against the Thessalonians. He recommended the Bereans who compared anything he Paul said by the Bible.
Since when did he stop being the Father? He has always been, will be and forever, ever lasting father John 15:26.
You got it all wrong!
@@chigbuchibuzo i want you to know
@bonnyogullo2568 did not get it wrong, that is what your Pastor Dr. Damina has taught you people more than two years ago.
You misunderstand that verse. What you said is the heresy of “Modalism”, also called “Oneness theology”.
Jesus is not the Father. He is the Son, and is not the HolySpirit. They are different persons but one Being-God.
Wonderful answer
Great Explanation!, It is Absolutely, Completely, Totally, Truly and Biblically Unquestionable that Jesus is not the father neither is he the Holy Spirit but All 3 persons have the full and the same nature of the GODHEAD, AMEN, This is The True God.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Is it not this same Dr. Abel Damina who keeps saying JESUS IS THE FATHER? and surprisingly you get people SWALLOWING anything he says.
You a fool that's why you don't understand what he is saying,Jesus said I came to do the father's will because he is not the father,me and my father,and means two people,he is different from the father, Damina is not your mate ,you don't know anything to correct him and tell him what to preach ,he even said he will explain it further
John 8 vs 58, Jesus says to the Jews, before Abraham I AM.
Exodus 3 vs 14 And God said unto Moses, “I AM That I AM.” And He said, “Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, ‘I AM hath sent me unto you.’
Jesus is God, that doesn't need any explanation if we all read our Bibles.
Is that not enough what Prophet Isaiah prophesied about Jesus who shall be called, Mighty God, Emanuel etc.
Dr Damina, are you not 3 in one? Are you not the Spirit? Are you not the Body? Are not Soul? Are all the above not Dr Damina? Isn't the Spirit in the BODY, isn't the Soul in the Body.
Dr Damina, you are the Father to your children.
You are the son to your parents.
You are the husband to your wife.
Tell me, doesn't people in your family know you as a son of Mr Damina? doesn't people know you as the husband to your wife? Doesn't people know you as a father to your children.
Are you divided? The same Abel damina doesn't have all 3 Titles? People of God wake up and read the bible and let the Holy Spirit teach you
Delving into the exposition of the nature of God through doctrinal exposition will only breed confusion. I wish Dr Damina could concentrate on edifying the spiritual lives of those under his charge.
You are a fool,so pastor should not tell believers about the nature of their father,I can see you don't know God or Doctrine,so he should expose the nature of your village chiefs
Hiding information about God's character is what edifies the church,you must be very stupid
There's no need to advance any explanation on the Godhead. Jesus Himself taught the Trinity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit as distinct Persons and He related with them as Persons. Jesus did not teach Father, Son and Holy Spirit are titles or manifestations. Matthew 28: 18-20, Luke 3:21-22.
Dr. Damina, This particular exposition is completely rubbish.
Outside Jesus there's no other God anywhere.
I am sorry, but I don’t agree with you here. Jesus Fulfilled the Godhead bodily when His body was glorified. He is the fullness of the Godhead. He is all God and He is Theeee everlasting Father.
Dr Abell Damina is right. Jesus christ is the son of God. He is not God.. John 17 verse 3.
Position/ location in heaven Acts 7vs 55 to56, Hebrews 12 vs 2 confirms that Jesus is on the right hand of the throne of God.
Question is ,who sits on the throne?
Revelations 4vs2 , Revelations 5vs 1to7 and Revelations 19vs 4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down & worshipped GOD THAT SAT ON THE THRONE, SAYING AMEN HALLELUJAH.
Thank God thier is no identity crisis between the father and the Son who was sent to the world to die for our sins. Christians would have created one for them & they would be fighting over who is superior as it is today in our churches.
Jesus is God.
Jesus is God.
Abel Damina is confused, the carnal mind can never understand the things of the Spirit.
Jesus is God. Malachi 3:1; Ex. 3:14; Jn. 8:58 etc.
Pastor Abel I enjoy your teaching greatly. I have a question and I will be glad to receive an answer. I n this very video you said we are to ask 8:33 in Jesus name but not mentioning his name. I saw that it’s saying ask in all that I am. Okay do make request from Jesus also? I thought it’s only the Father we can make a request from.
2. Pastor Abel Damina I thought that Hebrew 9:27 is talking and spiritual death - spiritual separation from Adam.
3. Phillip baptized the Ethiopian Enoch with water. You condemned water baptism and Holy communion.
Please I desperately need to know. I am not asking arrogantly but in humility. I want to know/ understand. Thank you very much. Thank you the wonderful revelation you bring.
A name s NOT A LOCATION, A name has got to do with a person. A house or mansion has got to do with a LOCATION not a person.
All this confusion of Dr. Abel Damina has gotten to do with his MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE TRINITY. He will continue to contradict himself if he refuses to humble himself to be taught about the TRINITY.
I do not agree with this teaching. If Jesus is not the father, at what point was he created? The mystery of God in Christ and the sonship was for the incarnation process. God had to be born of man to live as many, even though he's the father. For the mission on earth and that he was born, the word "FATHER" had to suffice and properly articulated. Jesus wouldn't have referred to himself as the Father while on earth, cos there will not be proper understanding.
In another message You said Jesus is God .Now you didnt admit your error causing othets to err.Double standard preacher
Of course Jesus is God. What he is saying is that Jesus isn’t the Father. That is the concept of the Trinity. The Father is God; the Son is God; the Holy Spirit is God, but these are distinct persons. In that, the Father isn’t the Son, neither is the Holy Spirit the Father nor the Son.
@@hijnr9116 hes a confused man dont join in the confusion.he Has a preaching on JESUS being God the Father
@@seunpeter7133 I would love to hear that, can you tag me with it? Since you are advising me to stay away from him. I don’t just follow after sayings I do like to verify. Pls tag me with it and I will be grateful
Abel Damina is suffering from acute anger and strife
His using the sermon of other prophet and contradictory discuss of the scriptures to creat empty/ void revelation deficiency
His followers are those mob angry with the church and displaced due similar Acts of contempt and heressy
I don't accept this teaching I love this pastor as he stands for truth but the Word says whatever you do in words and deeds do all in the Name of The Lord Jesus Colossians 3:17 there is nothing more clear than this
Acts 4:12 there is no other name given under heaven where by we can be save
Need I say more At the name of Jesus Christ every knee must Bow every tongue confess people please read your bibles I love this preacher but he is in era here
Comfusion...you have akeays been an inconsistent preacher.
I thank the Father in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ that false Preacher Dr. Abel Damina is coming to his rational senses in correcting his many heresies gradually.
The pastor is not causing any confusion,we are the once causing confusion.Jesuschrist always talk about his father in heaven,who is he referring to.
Colossians 1:15-21 Jesus and the father is the same. Jesus is the image of the invisible God
Jesus was just a prophet. The Heavenly Father stands alone.
Colossians 2:9 says, "For in Him (Christ Jesus) dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily."
The Father is distinct from the Son and the Spirit but they are inseparable because the Father dwells in the Son and the Holy Spirit dwells in the Son and the Son dwells in the Father eternally. In fact, the three mutually indwell one another. Jesus Christ is the body of God, in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Jesus Christ is not the name of the Son alone, it is the name of the entire Godhead. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit all bear the name of Jesus Christ. That's why there is no name greater than the name of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the name of the Godhead, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Please hold your fire brethren and tarry for further and better particulars on this exposition. God bless you richly
Jesus is not the Father neither the Holy Ghost but Jesus is the son and the son is the revealer of the Father, that's why if you see the son ,u have seen the Father . The Holy Ghost proceed from the Father and the Son.
In the beginning when the bible was written through the holy spirit,the writers should have called Jesus Christ directly God instead of the confusion we are facing
This s were you catch if someone know God ,or just have few information abt someone
U are not in the position to explain God,The trinity is a mystery,just believe jesus Christ is lord
For all l know this is not important. Infact it is not a fact that should be deliberated in christaindom.
This man is confused because from his previous teachings or explanations he have said before that Jesus is God, relating to the Trinity and if God is the Father then Jesus is God also, because Damina said Jesus is God very confused Human. Those listening to you will be lost forever and ever. Ordinarily Jesus is not God and neither did he claims to be God Almighty or Most High. A son cannot claim equality with his Father. Jesus made it clear in the scriptures when he said the Father is greater than I am and that is very true because there are things that Jesus himself don't know and he admits Only the Father knows that greatness alone proves and shows that Jesus is not the Father and God Most High.
the truth speaks for itself, no confution, the thruth is a spirit of god almighty and it bring peace to the believer and the reader . As you can see the preacher is havimg difficulty on explaining his own topic and beliebers are confused and are agreeing with each other
He should go and read John 1:1 going well and John 8:57-58 well
He never agrees to hve Trinity a confused Pastor
Jesus is the son of God, and the God in the incarnation. Mystery. Deep things of the Spirit.
Abel is now confusing everybody. In all your teaching Jesus is the father. Today Jesus is no longer the father
Abi!
Abi!
You know how to contradict your self,who then is the father,
He is confused
My name is Emmanuel and it totally destroys this message. Jesus is Emmanuel and it means God with us. Not even son with us. Damina gets a lot of things right but his errors are also becoming numerous.
He also said Jesus is called Everlasting father because he gave birth to us. So in essence it was the son that gave birth to us and not the father. By extension this means that we are not children of God the father but we are children of the son alone. This isn’t what the Bible teaches.
Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy HE HAS GIVEN US NEW BIRTH into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. 1 Peter 1:3
He said Jesus is called everlasting father because he gave birth to us. But here it is saying we were born by the father. This tells us that the son is also the father.
When I don’t understand a part of scripture I tell people who ask that I will explain when the Lord explains to me. I don’t try to force it to please people.
Mr. Abel I appreciate your efforts humanly speaking you’re trying but don’t be in a hurry to teach as James advised.
Check it well with Gods help before presenting it.
Is it that the father is the spirit of Jesus
But the same Abel Damina says Jesus is God. I am confused
This man is not serious at all
I’m sorry sir, you’re very wrong on this
I must admit that I'm confused this time.
Pastor Abel said in one of is video that Jesus is God the Father, Almighty God
Pls dont be confused, he is setting the record straight. The Father sent His son to die for the sins of the world. Jesus is always pointing to His father john 14 vs 1to2 , john 15vs 1to2 John 17vs 1to 3..
Yes , you I m From Ivory Coast. I been following Dr Abel damina for a couple of time, I m really blessed by his teaching. If I was in Nigeria I would attend his church.
But this time around I don't really understand
He said there is no Father or God outside Jesus
Jesus christ our Lord is on the right hand of the throne. Acts 7vs 55 to 56 Hebrews 12vs 2. God is the 9ne that sits on the throne. Revelations 4vs2 Rev 4vs2 Revelations 5vs 1to 7 and Revelations 19vs 4..
There is nowhere in the new testament where he referred to himsef as God.
Thank God there is no disagreement between the father & Son on who is superior.. .
This is what you get when you rush out to preach what you consider as a revelation without giving it time. Jesus is not a different person from the Father
Colossians 2:9
For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body.
Father means Spirit. Jesus as flesh and blood while he was on earth was the son. The son has since become the father meaning flesh is gone but the spirit is what remains. Now the Spirit takes the body- transformed it and now dwells in it- thats the fullness of the spirit. The Spirit=Father=the Holy Spirit=Jesus Christ. The son became father meaning flesh became Spirit. No more flesh. Flesh is corruptible and not eternal. Spirit is eternal. Jesus Christ is no flesh! He’s Spirit=Father. You and I are flesh. So is Dr Damina. Jesus Christ is no flesh. He’s Spirit. I hope this helps. Apostle Gino Jennings has been given this revelation and we thank God for him. It’s very simple. Son was flesh. Son was not eternal. Father is eternal and that’s the Spirit.
I am in the father and the father is in me. Can you separate between Jesus and the Father? So how is Jesus not the father then?
So if Jesus and the father are one, who died and was on the grave for Three days and who resurrected who?
@@godswillevuojapha1547 Jesus said I have the power to lay down my life and pick it up.
THE CAPTION IS MISLEADING AND DIVISIVE. THAT STATEMENT MADE BY PAPA WILL EVENTUALLY GET IT'S EXPLANATION IN A 2-3 HOURS TEACHING LATER. I THINK IT WILL BE UNFAIR TO USE IT TO CAPTION A 10 MINUTES VIDEO.
IT WILL DRAW TRAFFIC TO YOUR CHANNEL BUT IT WILL BUILD UP OPPOSITIONS TO WHO YOU CLAIM TO PROMOTE.
PLEASE WORK ON YOUR CAPTIONS.❤
Yes it’s true. Kindly we have added the full link to the teaching
@@themessagechannel1 Love what you do! But also don't always forget that In the present age and time people are more encapsulated in short messages. Very few will have the patience to follow that link to watch the complete video. So learn to use caption that will not always start a fight. The aim is to get people heart this message and not to harden their heart against it.
Bless your precious heart!
@@raphosa12thank you. My thoughts also. Always try to post the complete video with the explanations so as not to do the opposite of what you want to do😊
Papa am following you
When Jesus said my father is greater than I,who was he referring to?.
If you know the father, s name you will know who , s referring to
Exactly
We need to understand well the doctrine of Trinity because it is a Key doctrine in christianity.
If Jesus is not the father, it means we have 3 Gods
Try to understand what God means by one not what you think. See from God's perspective.
God family Ie father and son are distinct but part of the God family
The unfortunate thing is Dr. Abel Damina is so confused. This is the problem with interpreting the scriptures ALLEGORICALLY.
3Gods?, exactly why the Trinity Doctrine do not make Biblical sense, not mentioned in the Bible no apostle or Jesus follower ever made use of it nor will u see it in a verse or chapter being referred to as Trinity. Moses once said at Deuteronomy 6:4; Listen o Israel Jehovah our God is One Jehovah. Basically there is one Almighty God, one Supreme being the Most High whom Jesus could acknowledged to be his Father even before the world came into existence. God the Almighty is One not three, Jesus Christ never existed as another Almighty instead as a son that was loyal to his father. Through out his life he relied on Jehovah his God.
@@godswillevuojapha1547 ha ha ha ha ha, The fact is YOU DONT REALLY UNDERSTAND THE TRINITY. Who ever misinformed you, that when we speak of TRINITY we mean there are three Gods?
I hope you will have the humility to understand.
For your information my next video which i just sent your Mentor Dr. Abel Damina is cunningly diverting to the TRINITY.
lol. this guy constantly contradicts himself. in one breath he says, Jesus is the Father. in another he says, Jesus is not the Father. my counsel? he should take a rest, just walk away from `teaching`. he`s just confusing himself.
Very confused indeed all in the name to prove to people he has revelation
damina once once said Jesus is the father
I remember he was demonstrating
He is confused
Please what's the title of this message?
I thought thats what pst benny hinn taught b4 but it was brought down by papa
God is unique,
But dr damina, you once say there is no father outside jesus. Why the contradiction.
I thought I am the only who heard him once said so o,,,,, is he contradicting himself or now coming to his right senses about the fact of Trinity?
He said it infact he included the Holyspirit
Where can i get the full teaching
check comments
Ofucs...good interpretation..this speaks to why the sons of scivas were beaten by demons bcs they didn't identify with Christ.i.e they were not in the location where Christ is.
Rubbish...are you in the location where Jesus is? ....Jesus is in heaven
@@ChristianOkafor-w5u 😂you too?... you're in Christ that's the heaven that matters...in Christ...he knows you so when you call his name it works bcs you live in his realm.common man...this is just basics of Christianity now
@@aresaolutola8030 you live in his realm??who is teaching you people all these nonsense?...
This is what kill satan..he decided to left his realm to God's realms and he was cast down.....Jesus said same thing in mathew 11:23
@@ChristianOkafor-w5u wow.. you're so ignorant..John 5 vs 24 you have already pass from death to life bcs you believe his death,burial and ressurection... it's by faith if he is not living you and you in him now,then you're not his own.besises, you sound like you are not a Christian or perhaps an ignorant one😂
JESUS IS EVER LASTING FATHER
@@alfredsoitawafula7936 if he is the everlasting father as u claim, according to Habakuk1:12 who died for 3 days and was resurrected from the grave? Read a better version of the Bible because so many versions are misleading.
He said the teaching was going to advance. He was making a point which Noone is taking note of but distracted by a phrase.
At the incarnation, he wasn't the father by the function of birthing a family
In his resurrection is functioned as the father bringing men to the family
so in the incarnation there was God, Jesus and then Holy Spirit, later Jesus ceased to be the Father?
Or in the incarnation Jesus was the Father and then later he ceased to be the father, which one is true?
Well, this is actually confusing you know, I wish he could explain more on the following verses in details how Jesus is not the Father:
Cols2:9
1Tim 3:16
John1:1-15
John8:58
Isaiah 9:6
Isaiah 7:17
Just to name a few.
Thanks
Jesus is not the father very true.