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@@praveenpadayachy410 you have to go buck wild on her whit your Mimic and don’t give no chance to get some air. And do whit a blood weapon it work for me
honestly I think most people would have an easier time just power leveling and finding an effective strategy with a summon. one suggestion would be to put glintstone phalanx on a fully leveled uchigatana, let mimic get aggro and jump attack her at the same time your magic swords fire off, almost a guaranteed stagger, then it's just a matter of attrition, if you have high vigor and damage output, eventually you should be able to brute force it.
@@MooDy_ATW yes I just used it. You have to walk up a very specific spot in a specific way. And during the second phase you have to do it in one try within like 5 seconds. I made it once on the second phase but since I used my health flasks I was one shot with her stupid rot move. I think I’m just gonna respec into dex/arc and use swarm of flies I heard that is pretty useful.
After trying every cheese method, I finally found that spamming the rivers of blood katana art with a mimic was by far the easiest way to beat her. Well, Shabriri's Woe helps too. Am happy : )
You both rock! I had better luck with the Tiche summon but tried the Swarm of Flies and the Shaberr’s Woes on the mimic like you suggested. Got her 2nd try. I’m sitting at 15 faith so respec to 23 faith would start a larval farm I wanted to avoid. My mimic had rivers of blood and another katana with boars frost on it. Stuns galore. She didn’t get off a single whirly blade and-O-death.
@@bigjeffy88 you need to get her pinned up against a wall so she can’t maneuver. That way both you and your mimic (summon mimic when you have shaberi’s woes equipped and swap back out after summon) can knock her about the neck, head and face to her stunned).
Someone else said it in the comments too, but if it's an option for you - use Rivers of Blood, as highly upgraded as you can get it, and only ever use its Ash of War attack. Summon the Mimic Tear ashes (also as highly upgraded as you can), and basically just treat your summon like it's an IRL co-op partner rather than an NPC distraction. Don't just let it take all the damage, actually try to help it survive. Once you summon it, wait for it to start running toward Malenia and then try to get on her side/back and start attacking with the Ash of War. Any time you see Mimic Tear about to get attacked, go in for a Rivers of Blood Ash of War attack. She'll usually divert her attention to you, and then your Mimic Tear will begin attacking her again, and a lot of times you can get a really good back-and-forth assault situation going between you and the Mimic Tear that'll take down her HP pretty fast. If she targets you with that insane blade slashing combo though, you're pretty much fucked I think (your summon can take it like a champ though). As soon as she starts her second phase, immediately run forward underneath her and just keep running toward the wall until she slams into the ground, she will miss you 100% of the time (like shown in this video). Then wait for the scarlet rot flower thing to disappear (your Mimic Tear should still be alive and can keep her distracted while you wait). Once it's safe, rush back in and basically just try to do the same thing you did in the first phase, just be aware of any time she goes in the air because those attacks will obliterate you - be ready to dodge and roll a lot when you see this happening. I had the max amount of flasks already unlocked (I think). 11 Health, 3 Cerulean, and 1 Wondrous Physick. Took a decent number of attempts but when I beat her, I ended up only using 2 health flasks the entire fight, and all of the Cerulean flasks (and the 1 physick which I used for a temporary health and strength boost in phase 1). Mimic Tear survived almost the entire fight - think I only had to get in two Rivers of Blood Ash of War attacks by myself at the tail end of the fight.
@@JustapErson I’m rocking the Starscourge Greatsword, using Blackknife Tiche. I got a pretty good system down in the end but man it took time… Starcaller Cry is actually a pretty effective move agains her as she is susceptible to gravity pull and if the second hit landed it would stagger and give me 1-2 free shots
If you're having trouble getting on top of the rock try walking up the first part of it slowly and then you can jump to get on top of the horizontal branch. Don't jump up the rock because it won't work
Also wanted to add that having an empty right arm makes it easier (at least for me) for your character to walk up the tree root. Worth giving a try if your character is stuck.
@꧂ ꧁ use rivers of blood katana and black knife tiche - it doesnt make it completely easy it took me an hour with this method but it does work when u get used to everything like the skill moves she does
If anyone is wondering... I died just a moment after she died, got her items, and she remained dead. I'm calling this a W. Pro Tip: Your blood makes a good marker. But I'd say walk up the middle, don't run, and when you do your Agheel flame breath, don't move forward, or you'll keep getting glitched.
If anyone is still struggling after this video; I’ve found re-specing for arcane/dex, rivers of blood + mimic tear + spamming swarm of flies completely trivialises this fight :)
The best way I've found, without having to rely on an almost impossible jump, to kill her is the rivers of blood katana, blood flies, and a maxed out mimic. The bleeding affect is so strong you can kill her first phase in less then 3 minutes
I tried this unsuccessfully and for me the true cheese method was respec for Rivers of Blood, summoning mimic, and spamming the special attack (double hand + L2). I thought I'd be stuck on her forever and she went down in literally 3 minutes, it doesn't get much cheesier than that. I barely had to dodge or anything.... Helps if you have the blood loss attack boost talisman as well.
I cheesed her last night with mohgs spear and my mimic. I put on Shabriri's Woe talisman then summoned my mimic, then took off the talisman. She would mainly focus my mimic so I could use the spears ability and it just melted her. I also respected to have 80 arcane but I feel like the staff could be useful for cheesing
@@lemonskarma8759 I’ve got like 45 vigor and like 22 mind and 50 stamina. I’ve got on two talisman that raises my strength and dex. I got just enough of those stats to use the staff and I’m at the hard cap for arcane which is 80. But you probably don’t need to go that high. Then I let my max level mimic tank ( have the shabiris woe talisman on when you summon the mimic but the take it off after) she might target you once or twice but just let the mimic distract her so you can use the staffs special attack ( which is AoE btw)
@@dirtydan5276 you are the fuckin man. I did exactly what you said and I was aggressive with the charging spear move, wait for mimic to attack then special move, rinse and repeat. The best part is... its not a cheese! That's straight up beating the undefeated sword woman at her own game. Awesome build, awesome advice.
@@kelbysiebeneich3215 Still feels like a cheese to me 🤷♂ If you're not engaging with the boss and its mechanics and not really fighting her. Did you overcome that challenge then? Don't get me wrong. I'm glad that there are strats that most people can follow to beat the game, and it's more challenging content. But claiming that it is not cheese.. I don't know.
I beat this boss on my 4th try, use a mimic with swarm of flies and rivers of blood, the swarm of flies is really useful for her because it causes bleed and stuns her which allows u to pull off a rivers of blood combo while she is concentrating on your mimic
This is a sekiro boss in a Dark Souls game. A lot of enemies are, but this is 100% a sekiro boss. Even with max dex your character is painfully slower than everything.
Honestly I had way more trouble with the Black Knife Assassin Alecto. He does the same jump slash bullshit and he grabs way faster and he dodges almost everything you throw at him. He’s a true cuck but just like Malenia he’s dead as fuck now. Not looking forward to fighting him in journey 2.
@@NeverEndinShow I think I lucked out bc I was level 170 by the time I took her on and I had been wanting rivers of blood almost since release so when I finally got it. I went and did a respec then they fixed arcane and so mimic and I just fucked her up on 3rd try but I have been summoned a lot for that fight and it seems to be way harder than it was for me. Everyone talking about mimic being trash but in a boss fight he’s actually still pretty good. Except the nerf is kinda bs because Mimic had the same ai as an invader so I think they should have just left him alone because if you summon him just dungeoning. He’s pretty stupid against regular enemies.
I don't know why, but I keep hysterically laughing when the Guru talks about cheese, please tell me I'm not the only one having this reaction or I'm gonna start feeling really dumb XD
You can use the Ash of War Loretta's Slash to reach the branch consistently if you don't meet the stat requirements for dragon breath attacks. If you use Loretta's War Sickle and don't have the required stats, you won't use any fp :)
Works for phase 1, but phase 2 I get suspended in mid air and die from timing out.. Even jumping off the stone and not using the incantation, I still get stuck.
Thank you for this great cheese! I manage after many hours of trying to defeat this boss to beat her with this strategy. The only change I made, is that I used: Ash of War: Loretta slash attach to an Halebard to climb up to that branch easy, instead of Agheel Flame. Was a bit hard to learn how to climb up to that branch, but after that was much easier. Even so, for me it was a struggle to beat her, because this is my first game like this.
Found an even easier cheese if you can't get the jumping down. Summon mimic tear, have him aggro then spam Swarm of Flies non stop, they disrupt her constantly in Phase 1. Phase 2, rinse and repeat, but throw in block + dodge. Got her down fast. You may fail a few times, but this worked for me without the jumping hassle.
instead of falling beast jaw, you can also use Swarm of Flies (Faith Build) or Ancient Death Rancor (Int Build) to kill her while on top of tree branches
encountering a weird issue where in her second phase my character refuses to let me use agheels flames when trying to run up to the branch, i just float there until the game kills me, anyone else encountering this??
How do you dodge the second heavy attack when she’s almost dead??? I have her where a few attacks and she’s done but she does that heavy attack when I’m up there I jump down and try to dodge and the last blast part of it kills me
well i finally beat her after working on this all day... I was also having the freeze glitch during phase 2 way too many times (did it successfully only twice, and you have to be very careful not to touch the top tree branch). What I ended up doing is doing phase 1 on the ground fighting with my mimic, then jumped on the branch only during Phase 2 and did the cheese only on the second phase. I was getting stuck way too many times, and did not want to risk wasting any more time...
After 3 days of figuring out how to beat her, I won. I used rivers of blood, also called 2 cooperatives, and kept my distance constantly spamming with 'swarm the flies' incantation. Just be careful because the NPC will try to get you occasionally.
My God, I must have fought her 100 times with different “cheese” methods before I finally beat her using your method. I should have gone with the Guru first but didn’t want to respec for the beast jaw. Black Knife Tiche was clutch for me. Love the channel - keep kickin’ the hell out of these cheating jack wagons!
@@tazman6483 its easier in the first phase but the 2nd phase, there's less room for error. When your at the jumping spot, walk slowly up the stem/branch. When your character can't go any further from the top, press X (Jump) and then tap R1 for the dragon spell. You will land correctly. If you tap anything else, it glitches. It works, Im on ps5. It's frustrating, but it really works and Im not trolling you.
If your having trouble with the falling star beast you can use scarlet rot on it and just use ur horse to kite around and run around the arena, once it reaches its second phase you can repeat with a summon distracting it
There is another less cheesy way to do it. Get your Mimic, Tiche or Warhawk und two ultra greatswords then just don't target lock her and only attack with jumping attacks. She becomes way less aggressive and you break her stance quite often. Makes the fights a whole lot easier. This works on some other bosses as well. Fucks with their programming i guess.
That 🐶 killed me 40 times. I requested this cheese. Although I have already beaten her. But thanks for the cheese video. However, beating full grown is one of the most difficult task in elden ring.
@@jackasad2180 I have already done that. first time , it seemed impossible to beat even with fully upgraded mimic tear. so I left him. after beating melania , i went back and used the mimic tear and melania sword , fully upgraded. this time i beat him easily. easiest way to beat any boss in the game without cheese method is that , fully upgrade mimic tear and your weapon. become overpowered. I beat godskin duo without any problem.
if you mean fallingstar, I somehow beat it easily after getting ffed over by malenia cos somehow my brain of true dodge turned on and the fallingstar beast became cake to me.... thats how bad it got
This isn’t patched as it still works. You aren’t able to use dragon incantations during her 2nd phase if you had touched the top branch at all while getting up there during phase 1,(you have to fall onto it with the dragon’s breath).You can just walk up the rocks instead of run. This is hard to do but if you mess up it’ll make you do a falling animation and die. Good luck and I hope this helps you (I was able to beat her using the blasphemous blade method)
@@thebronzeage23 I’m not 100% certain but I had the same problem for a while until eventually I got it to work and I might be wrong on this but I believe you have to be far above the branch during the breath attack so that no part of you is touching the branch.
@@MrKieronbj I feel ya there. It took me about 4 tries to actually get up during the 2nd phase but I died afterwards. I found it easier to use a mimic tear and a upgraded blasphemous blade as it knocks her down easily and you can spam it with the mimic tear.
On my 3rd playthrough I just summoned black knife kishe and he just spammed off a bunch of frisbes that just destroyed malenias health and then when she did her flower bloom attack,the black knife just charged into the flower and just started going berserk and pretty much killed her before she could move again
So I've only done one playthrough so I don't know if this tactic will always work but I stood just in front of the barrier and summoned my +10 Redmane knight ogha's ashes. I then stood right next to it and while he hammered Malenia with arrows I hammered her with the rock sling spell. Because of the arena layout she had no choice but to come at us head on and as she's easily staggered she just kept falling further and further away from us. It got tasty in the second phase when I ran out of FP but by that point her health was that low she only needed a few hits with my falling star blade +10. Like others have said I think this fight needs you to work with your ashes and not use them as your distraction.
If you want to fight her in a somewhat cheesy way use a summon or multiplayer to distract her and use mohg’s spear or find any other weapons to abuse bleed or frostbite
If you’re dying on phase 2 by glitching out on the tree, what I did after 200+ attempts and days on her finally used my brain and just spammed the attack with my mimic on the ground and she couldn’t do anything got it first try 😀
@@MrPlasmo its not patched. i noticed that p2 i was approaching the log from a diff angle because of where they place u. try circling to the right b4 jumping on log p2.
@@rse3946 yes, i got it to work only twice out of what seems like a million tries. it's tough to get the exact angle right, so what I ended up doing is kill her in Phase 1 normally on the ground, and then use the cheese only for phase 2 which worked out.
Thank You. worked for me after 4 different cheeses and 3 respecs. You have to retrigger the shield after each set of blows. You can stay up there until you see her rise up and go orange flower. Then run away and don't look at her until Tiche gets on her. 6 red and 8 blues. Heavy roll with Lorettas war sickle to get up on the branch. Mottled, Immunizing, Marika's, Dragoncrest. Tiche, Speckled hard tear, Crimson bubble tear for the second phase. WOOT!
just adding like others have said you have to walk up then jump, be quick with the dragon incant, you might get soft locked into a forever fall and forced to die. Adding onto my experience with the fight and the cheese, phase two I had 0 success surviving if she did her rot bloom ability and I was in the spot. What I did that ultimately worked was to get her down to around 50% where she likes to do the move jump off the branch lure her away a bit chip away or let her heal up from blocked hits, wailing on ashes. Then go back to the branch while shes is distracted from ashes, I used the two swordtress and cleric. Her AI seems to skip doing another rot bloom if youre moving about at 50%. For fast damage I used blood flies incant which bleed procced her a ton.
Dude, thank you so much!!!!! Just beat her now and literally had tears in my eye lololololol. Thank you my friend, you definitely helped me on this elden ring journey. Earned my sub!
If youre having trouble getting on to the rock before the jump, try crouch walking up the rock, you have way more stability giving you an easier jump as well
@@weilantao4857 Just did it this morning brother. You gotta feel around for the small SMALL pathway that allows you to jump up, once you get a feel for it, you'll be able to do it everytimr
I finally did it, make sure to walk onto the rock, don't run, then jump a little and then use the dragon incantation boost agnell, it takes practice for that to work and then after you finish the first phase run towards her and summon a mimic and then run to the rock again and do the same thing till she is done. It was not easy, it takes many tries before you get used to it.
@@tomto8748 He did not say the details of it, he only showed, I spent hours trying to figure it out why I could not do it and he could so easily, I thought they had patched this already because this video is from 11 days ago and fromsoftware released an update few days ago, even though I thought they had patched, I was still trying it and once i got there for the first time then I knew they had not patched yet.
Worked perfectly great guru, although I did get stuck a few times during the jump on the second phase causing death but first time I made it up there I utterly destroyed her 💪
There is great bosses like Nameless King that are challenging, but fair and then there is this one. This whole scarlet rot + INSANE damage + a large health pool + ololol I stagger you incredibly easily even with heavy armor and shit + olololol I heal myself way too much all the time is ... well, too much in my opinion. This is such a frustrating combination overall.
Well what can you expect? Fromsoft have to keep pushing the boundary of how difficult some aspect of their game, if they make Melania have same difficulty like Nameless King, she wont be remembered which result in this poor design of ultimate boss unlike NK. Not to mention they nerf ma boi Radahn, instead of this bitch
@@HaveYouHeardOfTheHighElves. I don't think bosses need to be insanely difficult to be remembered. Nameless King is tough but fair and Ornstein and Smough are a great combination of fast and decently strong and strong, big and intimidating, but none of them is over the top once you get the hang of it a bit and yet they're still considered among the best bosses of the series and even in general gaming.
Has this been patched? 2nd phase can get up but you get stuck mid air and can't get the dragon fire or anything else. Shortly after you die whether she is near you or not.
a +10 dragon halbeard, a mimic tear, pincer technique to a wall and she goes down easy on first phase, second phase just let her agro the mimic who is still healty, avoid the bomb dives and the flower, poke her from behing, when mimic dies, just go blitz on her with everything u have left......did it on third try of this techinque.
For those of you (like myself) who don't have stats for dragon breath spells, you can use Loretta's War Sickle weapon art to get that extra lift without getting stuck in a falling animation. It's actually better if you don't have the stats to wield it so you don't use FP. Once you're in the cheese spot, switch weapons and just do your ranged cheese like in the video. This makes it so literally anyone can do the cheese since you have to fight Loretta anyway and get her weapon.
This does not work. Loretta's Slash does not activate in mid-air so you don't get any "extra lift" at all since you have to be grounded to activate this skill and from ground it ain't gonna get you up to that branch.
This defnitely still works as of 1.04. I can get up the branch 100% of the time, but the thing that destorys me is her Waterfowl Dance. Knocks me off the ledge everytime and I die getting back on.
I got on the branch tonight but she can hit you up there. Need to use the dragon breath when you walk as far as you can go, just hope she doesn't twirl around. Do not jump up, you'll get stuck floating and die after about 15 sec
DUDE! I just was fighting her and my mimic and me were slashing her into the rocks with the rivers of blood and she jumped up on the rocks and then disappeared and died, you go up the path leading to middle and turn left and that’s where it happened I don’t have any idea how or why, but skipped the second phase and everything
Hardest boss in the game, probably the entire souls series and for the wrong reasons. I guess Fromsoft devs for the first time ever figured well thought out and complex movesets and attack patterns, a huge health pool, unlimited poise through attacks, and enormous damage output weren't enough, and decided to give one of their game's bosses something I didn't think they'd ever stoop to: regenerating health.
Took me 7.5 hours and so is easily now my longest Fromsoft boss. I refused to use a summon/ash because this fight felt like it insisted you used a crutch. Honestly, it wouldn't have taken half the time but I spent way too long figuring out a reliable way to avoid her whirlwind attack when up close. That move and whoever designed it can go to hell.
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Guro That don’t work no more and this Girl is no joke I been stock for two days.
Would using the mimic with Shabiris woe let you finish her before she even trys to attack you on the 2nd phase?
@@JohnSmith-id1bh now I am trying to kill the last boss he is Hard to kill.
Cheese no longer work damn it
@@praveenpadayachy410 you have to go buck wild on her whit your Mimic and don’t give no chance to get some air. And do whit a blood weapon it work for me
If one gets killed 20 times with ease one shall try the way of the cheese 🙏
honestly I think most people would have an easier time just power leveling and finding an effective strategy with a summon. one suggestion would be to put glintstone phalanx on a fully leveled uchigatana, let mimic get aggro and jump attack her at the same time your magic swords fire off, almost a guaranteed stagger, then it's just a matter of attrition, if you have high vigor and damage output, eventually you should be able to brute force it.
Just 20?
Pathetic
The way i see it Melania design was intented for min/max build (which is why she has many bs move), so either you did that or overleveled yourself
If the boss is straight up unfair
Then you shall throw cheese in their hair
Getting on the rock is so much harder than he made it look
A lot of cheeses like these are hard
dont jump you just walk up it
@@OblivionNova479 I tried walking I just couldn’t do it ,does it still working after today update?
I just used fingerprint stone shield its awesom (remove the ash from the shield) and rivers of blood ,i just won after one week
@@MooDy_ATW yes I just used it. You have to walk up a very specific spot in a specific way. And during the second phase you have to do it in one try within like 5 seconds. I made it once on the second phase but since I used my health flasks I was one shot with her stupid rot move. I think I’m just gonna respec into dex/arc and use swarm of flies I heard that is pretty useful.
After trying every cheese method, I finally found that spamming the rivers of blood katana art with a mimic was by far the easiest way to beat her. Well, Shabriri's Woe helps too. Am happy : )
You both rock! I had better luck with the Tiche summon but tried the Swarm of Flies and the Shaberr’s Woes on the mimic like you suggested. Got her 2nd try. I’m sitting at 15 faith so respec to 23 faith would start a larval farm I wanted to avoid. My mimic had rivers of blood and another katana with boars frost on it. Stuns galore. She didn’t get off a single whirly blade and-O-death.
My mimic is maxed level and it sucks keeps giving her health back. Also fucked up the only time I was definitely going to beat her.
@@bigjeffy88 you need to get her pinned up against a wall so she can’t maneuver. That way both you and your mimic (summon mimic when you have shaberi’s woes equipped and swap back out after summon) can knock her about the neck, head and face to her stunned).
@@coulterjb22 I just got her let’s gooooooooo.
Thank you! After 20 tries with other methods, blood katana melted her on the first try
“Run past the cheating hag to the back of the room.” 😂
Thank you Tyrannicon, not for the method, but for telling me how to dodge that first explosion attack in the 2nd phase. Gets me everytime
I beat her as a finger but it fidnt count fo the achievements. Now I want to mod and one shot her
Shit is so annoying
Run underneath
@@aif8187 I tried and it flipped and kill me
Just run away immediately don't dodge just sprint
Someone else said it in the comments too, but if it's an option for you - use Rivers of Blood, as highly upgraded as you can get it, and only ever use its Ash of War attack. Summon the Mimic Tear ashes (also as highly upgraded as you can), and basically just treat your summon like it's an IRL co-op partner rather than an NPC distraction. Don't just let it take all the damage, actually try to help it survive. Once you summon it, wait for it to start running toward Malenia and then try to get on her side/back and start attacking with the Ash of War. Any time you see Mimic Tear about to get attacked, go in for a Rivers of Blood Ash of War attack. She'll usually divert her attention to you, and then your Mimic Tear will begin attacking her again, and a lot of times you can get a really good back-and-forth assault situation going between you and the Mimic Tear that'll take down her HP pretty fast. If she targets you with that insane blade slashing combo though, you're pretty much fucked I think (your summon can take it like a champ though).
As soon as she starts her second phase, immediately run forward underneath her and just keep running toward the wall until she slams into the ground, she will miss you 100% of the time (like shown in this video). Then wait for the scarlet rot flower thing to disappear (your Mimic Tear should still be alive and can keep her distracted while you wait). Once it's safe, rush back in and basically just try to do the same thing you did in the first phase, just be aware of any time she goes in the air because those attacks will obliterate you - be ready to dodge and roll a lot when you see this happening.
I had the max amount of flasks already unlocked (I think). 11 Health, 3 Cerulean, and 1 Wondrous Physick. Took a decent number of attempts but when I beat her, I ended up only using 2 health flasks the entire fight, and all of the Cerulean flasks (and the 1 physick which I used for a temporary health and strength boost in phase 1). Mimic Tear survived almost the entire fight - think I only had to get in two Rivers of Blood Ash of War attacks by myself at the tail end of the fight.
@alexmalqqqq hell yeah glad it helped
For anyone wondering this still works
Also swarm of flies works great if you don't want to use the fallingstar beast jaw
Doesn’t work for me. The weapon ability doesn’t work when I’m up there anymore.
They nerfed swarm of flies too way less damage
I really needed this yesterday Mr Guru… Beat my head against this boss for about three hours but I did eventually get the win
Hard earned win is more rewarding... emotionally...plus now ur slightly more skilled 😂
Same for me. But I figured out she was super easy to beat with a mimic tear and rivers of blood ash of war.
@@JustapErson I’m rocking the Starscourge Greatsword, using Blackknife Tiche. I got a pretty good system down in the end but man it took time… Starcaller Cry is actually a pretty effective move agains her as she is susceptible to gravity pull and if the second hit landed it would stagger and give me 1-2 free shots
I needed this yesterday as well...
Same took me 53 tries ( i counted im to the point where i can doge her attacks easily in both phases)
If you're having trouble getting on top of the rock try walking up the first part of it slowly and then you can jump to get on top of the horizontal branch. Don't jump up the rock because it won't work
Also wanted to add that having an empty right arm makes it easier (at least for me) for your character to walk up the tree root. Worth giving a try if your character is stuck.
If you can't win the fight get someone with rivers of blood and blood flies to do it for you
@꧂ ꧁ use rivers of blood katana and black knife tiche - it doesnt make it completely easy it took me an hour with this method but it does work when u get used to everything like the skill moves she does
This is what I did. Good call.
If anyone is wondering... I died just a moment after she died, got her items, and she remained dead. I'm calling this a W.
Pro Tip: Your blood makes a good marker. But I'd say walk up the middle, don't run, and when you do your Agheel flame breath, don't move forward, or you'll keep getting glitched.
If anyone is still struggling after this video; I’ve found re-specing for arcane/dex, rivers of blood + mimic tear + spamming swarm of flies completely trivialises this fight :)
I can’t use rivers of blood. I killed the fire giant before encountering that church so now the npc won’t appear :’(
@@DragonDonut64 shouldn’t matter too much - more about spamming flies when she’s distracted. Also lots of other good bleed alternatives out there!
@@DragonDonut64 Blood Uchigitana w/ Sepuchu will give you 100+ bleed
bless you
Didn’t see this comment until now but I did this same strategy today. Crazy how much swarm of flies melts her
The best way I've found, without having to rely on an almost impossible jump, to kill her is the rivers of blood katana, blood flies, and a maxed out mimic. The bleeding affect is so strong you can kill her first phase in less then 3 minutes
3min??? It took you that long? LOL!!! I did both phases in 1min! Try the Blasphemous Blade.
Do you need to have an 80 Arcane rating for that?
@@jayviktor6130 my stats were all even level 35
dude i fucking love you
The cheese I've been waiting for!
Not the cheese we deserve, but the cheese we need.... Or is it the other way around?
I tried this unsuccessfully and for me the true cheese method was respec for Rivers of Blood, summoning mimic, and spamming the special attack (double hand + L2). I thought I'd be stuck on her forever and she went down in literally 3 minutes, it doesn't get much cheesier than that. I barely had to dodge or anything.... Helps if you have the blood loss attack boost talisman as well.
I cheesed her last night with mohgs spear and my mimic. I put on Shabriri's Woe talisman then summoned my mimic, then took off the talisman. She would mainly focus my mimic so I could use the spears ability and it just melted her. I also respected to have 80 arcane but I feel like the staff could be useful for cheesing
What ur stat im struggling against her rn
thanks to you, i finally beat this crap boss.
@@lemonskarma8759 I’ve got like 45 vigor and like 22 mind and 50 stamina. I’ve got on two talisman that raises my strength and dex. I got just enough of those stats to use the staff and I’m at the hard cap for arcane which is 80. But you probably don’t need to go that high. Then I let my max level mimic tank ( have the shabiris woe talisman on when you summon the mimic but the take it off after) she might target you once or twice but just let the mimic distract her so you can use the staffs special attack ( which is AoE btw)
@@dirtydan5276 you are the fuckin man. I did exactly what you said and I was aggressive with the charging spear move, wait for mimic to attack then special move, rinse and repeat. The best part is... its not a cheese! That's straight up beating the undefeated sword woman at her own game. Awesome build, awesome advice.
@@kelbysiebeneich3215 Still feels like a cheese to me 🤷♂ If you're not engaging with the boss and its mechanics and not really fighting her. Did you overcome that challenge then? Don't get me wrong. I'm glad that there are strats that most people can follow to beat the game, and it's more challenging content. But claiming that it is not cheese.. I don't know.
Malenia is so hard, even the cheese need specific items & specific position.
Thank you Guru
Getting up that branch is harder than the fight jeez
I beat this boss on my 4th try, use a mimic with swarm of flies and rivers of blood, the swarm of flies is really useful for her because it causes bleed and stuns her which allows u to pull off a rivers of blood combo while she is concentrating on your mimic
She took me 10 tries since I figured how party works
Level/build?
Same on my fifth 👌
Thank you for this, I just used this strat and it worked like a charm
This is a sekiro boss in a Dark Souls game. A lot of enemies are, but this is 100% a sekiro boss. Even with max dex your character is painfully slower than everything.
No, it's a Bloodborne boss.
I beat her last night , but I gotta support that cheesing tutorial
Hardest boss in the game by miles
Honestly I had way more trouble with the Black Knife Assassin Alecto. He does the same jump slash bullshit and he grabs way faster and he dodges almost everything you throw at him. He’s a true cuck but just like Malenia he’s dead as fuck now. Not looking forward to fighting him in journey 2.
Facts. Radagon and Elden beast we a pain but Melania was near impossible took me like 3 day of 6+ hours a day to finally handle the lady
@@NeverEndinShow I think I lucked out bc I was level 170 by the time I took her on and I had been wanting rivers of blood almost since release so when I finally got it. I went and did a respec then they fixed arcane and so mimic and I just fucked her up on 3rd try but I have been summoned a lot for that fight and it seems to be way harder than it was for me. Everyone talking about mimic being trash but in a boss fight he’s actually still pretty good. Except the nerf is kinda bs because Mimic had the same ai as an invader so I think they should have just left him alone because if you summon him just dungeoning. He’s pretty stupid against regular enemies.
@@celestialnoon *she. All Black Knife Assassin are female
@@aizen3606 Shit you right
I was able to get up the horizontal branch but it seems every time stuck airborne in the air and died 10 seconds later.
I don't know why, but I keep hysterically laughing when the Guru talks about cheese, please tell me I'm not the only one having this reaction or I'm gonna start feeling really dumb XD
You’re a bot. I’ve this this comment elsewhere, quote for quote.
You can use the Ash of War Loretta's Slash to reach the branch consistently if you don't meet the stat requirements for dragon breath attacks. If you use Loretta's War Sickle and don't have the required stats, you won't use any fp :)
sir i salute u
Thanks!!
Works for phase 1, but phase 2 I get suspended in mid air and die from timing out..
Even jumping off the stone and not using the incantation, I still get stuck.
You have to jump from the same place i do, if you try it on another part of the branch you can get stuck
I have the same issue always on the second phase I got stuck….
same here, first phase i get up there every time now and second time i always end up stuck
Thank you for this great cheese! I manage after many hours of trying to defeat this boss to beat her with this strategy. The only change I made, is that I used: Ash of War: Loretta slash attach to an Halebard to climb up to that branch easy, instead of Agheel Flame.
Was a bit hard to learn how to climb up to that branch, but after that was much easier. Even so, for me it was a struggle to beat her, because this is my first game like this.
"I am Malenia, Blade of miquela" turned into a nightmare speech
Found an even easier cheese if you can't get the jumping down. Summon mimic tear, have him aggro then spam Swarm of Flies non stop, they disrupt her constantly in Phase 1. Phase 2, rinse and repeat, but throw in block + dodge. Got her down fast.
You may fail a few times, but this worked for me without the jumping hassle.
The Guru is indeed lactose tolerant
Is there anything he can’t cheese?
Bread
Ok figured it out the best way to get on that branch is by sacrificing ur first born child to the Nordic gods
instead of falling beast jaw, you can also use Swarm of Flies (Faith Build) or Ancient Death Rancor (Int Build) to kill her while on top of tree branches
I love ur narration tbh. Wish I had that when I was playing golden axe w 3 buttons.
encountering a weird issue where in her second phase my character refuses to let me use agheels flames when trying to run up to the branch, i just float there until the game kills me, anyone else encountering this??
Yup I am encountering this as well. Not sure wtf is going on.
same here. It just started to do this today...
How do you dodge the second heavy attack when she’s almost dead??? I have her where a few attacks and she’s done but she does that heavy attack when I’m up there I jump down and try to dodge and the last blast part of it kills me
well i finally beat her after working on this all day... I was also having the freeze glitch during phase 2 way too many times (did it successfully only twice, and you have to be very careful not to touch the top tree branch). What I ended up doing is doing phase 1 on the ground fighting with my mimic, then jumped on the branch only during Phase 2 and did the cheese only on the second phase. I was getting stuck way too many times, and did not want to risk wasting any more time...
After 3 days of figuring out how to beat her, I won. I used rivers of blood, also called 2 cooperatives, and kept my distance constantly spamming with 'swarm the flies' incantation. Just be careful because the NPC will try to get you occasionally.
My God, I must have fought her 100 times with different “cheese” methods before I finally beat her using your method. I should have gone with the Guru first but didn’t want to respec for the beast jaw. Black Knife Tiche was clutch for me. Love the channel - keep kickin’ the hell out of these cheating jack wagons!
Cheese master
On the 2nd phase, make sure to jump and use the spell without pressing the other buttons, it causes you to glitch.
Stil working after 1.03.2
@@tazman6483 lol, I beat it yesterday with it. Just because you can't do it properly, does not mean, it does not work.
@@tazman6483 its easier in the first phase but the 2nd phase, there's less room for error. When your at the jumping spot, walk slowly up the stem/branch. When your character can't go any further from the top, press X (Jump) and then tap R1 for the dragon spell. You will land correctly.
If you tap anything else, it glitches. It works, Im on ps5.
It's frustrating, but it really works and Im not trolling you.
@@tazman6483 no worries, I bet your just frustrated. Keep it up, you can do this.
If your having trouble with the falling star beast you can use scarlet rot on it and just use ur horse to kite around and run around the arena, once it reaches its second phase you can repeat with a summon distracting it
use horse?
@@jackasad2180 yes this is one of the few boss battles where u can fight on horseback
ah okay, i didn't realize that u can use the horse
he is right,, he's talking to beat the falling star beast,, not the malenia
I can’t use agheels flame while airborn in her second phase I need help understanding this
There is another less cheesy way to do it. Get your Mimic, Tiche or Warhawk und two ultra greatswords then just don't target lock her and only attack with jumping attacks. She becomes way less aggressive and you break her stance quite often. Makes the fights a whole lot easier.
This works on some other bosses as well. Fucks with their programming i guess.
I've tried a bunch everyone I get up there it freezes and won't let me use the spell just drains my stamina bar to zero and kills me
For some reason I can’t summon the dragon head during second phase when I’m in midair
Same, really odd.
Been scrolling for this comment same here I feel like they have fixed it in the new patch
It’s nice seeing your vids again, I remember watching your Skyrim epic battles videos when I was little
That 🐶 killed me 40 times. I requested this cheese. Although I have already beaten her. But thanks for the cheese video. However, beating full grown is one of the most difficult task in elden ring.
How is full grown fallingstar beast hard?
then cheese the beast first
@@jackasad2180 I have already done that. first time , it seemed impossible to beat even with fully upgraded mimic tear. so I left him. after beating melania , i went back and used the mimic tear and melania sword , fully upgraded. this time i beat him easily. easiest way to beat any boss in the game without cheese method is that , fully upgrade mimic tear and your weapon. become overpowered. I beat godskin duo without any problem.
if you mean fallingstar, I somehow beat it easily after getting ffed over by malenia cos somehow my brain of true dodge turned on and the fallingstar beast became cake to me.... thats how bad it got
This isn’t patched as it still works. You aren’t able to use dragon incantations during her 2nd phase if you had touched the top branch at all while getting up there during phase 1,(you have to fall onto it with the dragon’s breath).You can just walk up the rocks instead of run. This is hard to do but if you mess up it’ll make you do a falling animation and die. Good luck and I hope this helps you (I was able to beat her using the blasphemous blade method)
what do you mean by “messed up in the first phase”? i get up on the branch properly am i just doing it wrong somehow?
@@thebronzeage23 I’m not 100% certain but I had the same problem for a while until eventually I got it to work and I might be wrong on this but I believe you have to be far above the branch during the breath attack so that no part of you is touching the branch.
@@JustJoeKing5 okay i’ll try that thanks for the tip
@@JustJoeKing5 - I’ve been trying this, but I just keep freezing in mid-air then I die.. 😂
@@MrKieronbj I feel ya there. It took me about 4 tries to actually get up during the 2nd phase but I died afterwards. I found it easier to use a mimic tear and a upgraded blasphemous blade as it knocks her down easily and you can spam it with the mimic tear.
I think it’s been patched. I can’t get it to work after many attempts. I trued walking I tried nothing in hands. Nothing worked. Parched
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On my 3rd playthrough I just summoned black knife kishe and he just spammed off a bunch of frisbes that just destroyed malenias health and then when she did her flower bloom attack,the black knife just charged into the flower and just started going berserk and pretty much killed her before she could move again
in the second phase, when I jump using agheel flame, my character gets stuck mid air animation and then I die UGH
Me too! First phase is fine, second phase it just won't let me do Agheel's Flame at all. Help us Guru!
Make sure you are not actually jumping and just letting the dragon breath animation lift you up. If you jump you'll suspend yourself.
When I try to get on a second time I always glitch get stuck and die because I’m stuck in the falling animation
Think it's patched. Can get up in the spot easy first time easy. But in second phase I get stuck in the air and die.
So I've only done one playthrough so I don't know if this tactic will always work but I stood just in front of the barrier and summoned my +10 Redmane knight ogha's ashes. I then stood right next to it and while he hammered Malenia with arrows I hammered her with the rock sling spell. Because of the arena layout she had no choice but to come at us head on and as she's easily staggered she just kept falling further and further away from us.
It got tasty in the second phase when I ran out of FP but by that point her health was that low she only needed a few hits with my falling star blade +10.
Like others have said I think this fight needs you to work with your ashes and not use them as your distraction.
If you want to fight her in a somewhat cheesy way use a summon or multiplayer to distract her and use mohg’s spear or find any other weapons to abuse bleed or frostbite
My mimic whooped her ass while I spammed the spear of Gransax safely at distance.
Is it patched
If you’re dying on phase 2 by glitching out on the tree, what I did after 200+ attempts and days on her finally used my brain and just spammed the attack with my mimic on the ground and she couldn’t do anything got it first try 😀
yeah did they patch this cheese already? Phase 2 gets stuck in the tree everytime
@@MrPlasmo basically but you’ll be ight very easy to beat her if u and mimic just spam the attack let mimic tank as well
@@MrPlasmo its not patched. i noticed that p2 i was approaching the log from a diff angle because of where they place u. try circling to the right b4 jumping on log p2.
@@rse3946 yes, i got it to work only twice out of what seems like a million tries. it's tough to get the exact angle right, so what I ended up doing is kill her in Phase 1 normally on the ground, and then use the cheese only for phase 2 which worked out.
@@MrPlasmo gz!
Boss: I have Never known defeat.
Guru: have you tasted cheese ?
I've gotten her down to less than 20% health in phase 2 in every fight about 20 times. Time to cheese.
I just end up dying when I get up there. Float in the air n die?
Ugh. Thank you all. I have come so close with swarm of flies. She still manages to one shot me during 2nd phase. Thanks again!
Thank You. worked for me after 4 different cheeses and 3 respecs. You have to retrigger the shield after each set of blows. You can stay up there until you see her rise up and go orange flower. Then run away and don't look at her until Tiche gets on her. 6 red and 8 blues. Heavy roll with Lorettas war sickle to get up on the branch.
Mottled, Immunizing, Marika's, Dragoncrest. Tiche, Speckled hard tear, Crimson bubble tear for the second phase. WOOT!
just adding like others have said you have to walk up then jump, be quick with the dragon incant, you might get soft locked into a forever fall and forced to die. Adding onto my experience with the fight and the cheese, phase two I had 0 success surviving if she did her rot bloom ability and I was in the spot. What I did that ultimately worked was to get her down to around 50% where she likes to do the move jump off the branch lure her away a bit chip away or let her heal up from blocked hits, wailing on ashes. Then go back to the branch while shes is distracted from ashes, I used the two swordtress and cleric. Her AI seems to skip doing another rot bloom if youre moving about at 50%. For fast damage I used blood flies incant which bleed procced her a ton.
I just got up there and I floated in the air for like 30 seconds then died lmao
Tyrannicon: Its over MaIenia have the high ground !
Malenia: you underestimate my power!
Tyrannnicon: Die with your rot then!
everytime i try to get back up on phase two i get stuck and die :(
Dude, thank you so much!!!!! Just beat her now and literally had tears in my eye lololololol. Thank you my friend, you definitely helped me on this elden ring journey. Earned my sub!
Dude I tried getting up there with the ageels flame and I can’t
@@kingslayer6846 did they patch this already?
Same here
@@worldwanderingfisherman2166 no not yet use the lorettia war sickle ult
If youre having trouble getting on to the rock before the jump, try crouch walking up the rock, you have way more stability giving you an easier jump as well
I can't make it work. I feel there is a patch after 1.03.2. Does the crouch still help?
@@weilantao4857 Just did it this morning brother. You gotta feel around for the small SMALL pathway that allows you to jump up, once you get a feel for it, you'll be able to do it everytimr
I finally did it, make sure to walk onto the rock, don't run, then jump a little and then use the dragon incantation boost agnell, it takes practice for that to work and then after you finish the first phase run towards her and summon a mimic and then run to the rock again and do the same thing till she is done. It was not easy, it takes many tries before you get used to it.
You... You just briefed the video bro
@@tomto8748 He did not say the details of it, he only showed, I spent hours trying to figure it out why I could not do it and he could so easily, I thought they had patched this already because this video is from 11 days ago and fromsoftware released an update few days ago, even though I thought they had patched, I was still trying it and once i got there for the first time then I knew they had not patched yet.
@@worldwanderingfisherman2166 fair enough
Works but puts me in a falling animation and kills me after a short time
İts fixed doesnt work
Ah the cheese thats almost as hard as the boss itself
Worked perfectly great guru, although I did get stuck a few times during the jump on the second phase causing death but first time I made it up there I utterly destroyed her 💪
It happened to you too
The guru never lets me down ever. Even when a patch happens guru got you fosho. I will gladly sub and join after all the help i have recieved.
There is great bosses like Nameless King that are challenging, but fair and then there is this one.
This whole scarlet rot + INSANE damage + a large health pool + ololol I stagger you incredibly easily even with heavy armor and shit + olololol I heal myself way too much all the time is ... well, too much in my opinion.
This is such a frustrating combination overall.
Well what can you expect? Fromsoft have to keep pushing the boundary of how difficult some aspect of their game, if they make Melania have same difficulty like Nameless King, she wont be remembered which result in this poor design of ultimate boss unlike NK. Not to mention they nerf ma boi Radahn, instead of this bitch
@@HaveYouHeardOfTheHighElves. I don't think bosses need to be insanely difficult to be remembered.
Nameless King is tough but fair and Ornstein and Smough are a great combination of fast and decently strong and strong, big and intimidating, but none of them is over the top once you get the hang of it a bit and yet they're still considered among the best bosses of the series and even in general gaming.
It’s not letting me use agheels flame in her second phase I don’t know why it just won’t go off
Took me a good 1.5 hours to beat her yesterday with my mage build. This would have come in handy and made it a quick fight lol
Has this been patched? 2nd phase can get up but you get stuck mid air and can't get the dragon fire or anything else. Shortly after you die whether she is near you or not.
I needed this yesterday, finally beat her after like 70 tries
How are you using the weapons special attack while having shield out
Use a shield with no Ash of war attached to it.
a +10 dragon halbeard, a mimic tear, pincer technique to a wall and she goes down easy on first phase, second phase just let her agro the mimic who is still healty, avoid the bomb dives and the flower, poke her from behing, when mimic dies, just go blitz on her with everything u have left......did it on third try of this techinque.
Nice, same here but I used the tithe summoning and bleed.
dragon halberd user here😍
So I think this is fixed now. Because you now just slide right off the rock when you attempt to get up the branch
Damn, I'm surprised Geo was able yk find a cheese for her lol.
Did they patch this? I always get "bugged" when i dragon jump on the 2nd phase. It will get stuck for 3-5 secs then "you died"
if your still having trouble with this then just use a +10 rivers of blood katana + mimic summon. You absolutely shred her both phases.
didnt the mimic get nerfed though? its less aggresive and doesnt use skills often anymore
@@DarkRavenWolf50 As long as you have something to keep her attention away from you is good also Black Knife Tiche is also a good one for this
Any stat allocation recommendations for the build?
Yeah that's a really great build for this fight now that i thought about it. Glad u mentioned.
@@kace7231 i dont know the specifics but radahns swords needs STR and FAI. Also youll need END for all that equipment.
After exhausted all my frustrations, I managed to beat her fair and square with Radahn's Armor. The cheese method still works on PC platform.
For those of you (like myself) who don't have stats for dragon breath spells, you can use Loretta's War Sickle weapon art to get that extra lift without getting stuck in a falling animation. It's actually better if you don't have the stats to wield it so you don't use FP. Once you're in the cheese spot, switch weapons and just do your ranged cheese like in the video. This makes it so literally anyone can do the cheese since you have to fight Loretta anyway and get her weapon.
This does not work. Loretta's Slash does not activate in mid-air so you don't get any "extra lift" at all since you have to be grounded to activate this skill and from ground it ain't gonna get you up to that branch.
@@lordbacon4972 Just tried it and it works lol. Loretta's slash gives you enough lift from the top of the rock.
I needed this yesterday 😭
Yessss I was wondering when you'd do a cheese for her, thank you!! Will try this out today 🤩
Did it work?
This defnitely still works as of 1.04. I can get up the branch 100% of the time, but the thing that destorys me is her Waterfowl Dance. Knocks me off the ledge everytime and I die getting back on.
Not sure but I think they patched this last night. I can’t get onto the branch at all
I got on the branch tonight but she can hit you up there. Need to use the dragon breath when you walk as far as you can go, just hope she doesn't twirl around. Do not jump up, you'll get stuck floating and die after about 15 sec
DUDE! I just was fighting her and my mimic and me were slashing her into the rocks with the rivers of blood and she jumped up on the rocks and then disappeared and died, you go up the path leading to middle and turn left and that’s where it happened I don’t have any idea how or why, but skipped the second phase and everything
Still works after a few tries.
Had some floating problems in the 2nd phase, but i finally made it.
Thx Tyra
Btw: NG++
This isn’t patched? I’m trying currently to get this to work and I can’t seem to get up the rock
@@Fakeditto No, its not patched. Walk, dont run or try to jump on it.
@@kartoffelkopf7010 it's most definitely patched been trying it for a while
@@taek7403 Did it yesterday, its still working (PS5)
@@kartoffelkopf7010 Im having the same floating issue for 2nd phase. Any tips?
So that's how Radahn bested her.
What a Chad.
Hardest boss in the game, probably the entire souls series and for the wrong reasons.
I guess Fromsoft devs for the first time ever figured well thought out and complex movesets and attack patterns, a huge health pool, unlimited poise through attacks, and enormous damage output weren't enough, and decided to give one of their game's bosses something I didn't think they'd ever stoop to: regenerating health.
Took me 7.5 hours and so is easily now my longest Fromsoft boss. I refused to use a summon/ash because this fight felt like it insisted you used a crutch. Honestly, it wouldn't have taken half the time but I spent way too long figuring out a reliable way to avoid her whirlwind attack when up close. That move and whoever designed it can go to hell.
This cheese looks like a real fight to me.
Best malenia cheese
Summon : let me solo her
Mooo
I had to respec myself to rivers of blood build in order to win... yesterday
*The wall glitch has been patched*
It hasn't it's just tricky to get up there if it's not from the place in the video.
it hasn't i just did it
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Guru you sir are magnificent