Side note: At 7:12 "the same thing for vit decay" would actually only be the case if the build also had +200% vit decay, since DoT and flat damage is scaled seperately.
this was the most helpful grim dawn video ive ever seen as a theory crafting addict haha dude worked so hard on this video he wore multiple shirts just to get all the info in
I'd like to provide some constructive criticism for you. This is a heavy topic with a lot of math involved. The video is way too fast for that. You are not only speaking fast, you make no pauses at all. You are mousovering items for so short, that by the time I find what should I be looking at you are already on the next item, and also talking in the meantime. It's obvious that you played this game for a long time and understand the mechanics and know all the items, but for newer players it's very hard to follow. Leave some time for us to swallow the information. Sure I could pause the video, but what's the point of watching a video guide if I have to pause every 5 seconds? I have 300 hundred hours in this game, I know the basics, but I don't know what most of these items or spells do, unless I read the whole tooltip. So when editing the video it would be great if you would keep the items' tooltips(at least relevant ones) on the screen while talking about the math. Have a short pause after an explanation, maybe go over it again for more important stuff. I would say that only the overview example was useful for me, I could not follow you on the numbered examples. I still very much appreciate the effort you put into this.
Thx for the feedback, I'll try to make less quick cuts in the future when discussing these kind of topics. I just feared that the lengh of this video was already getting out of hand, so I tried cropping it a bit. Welp, I guess the pause button is your best friend for this video as you said...
Please talk much slower and pay more attention to good pronunciation of the words you are using. I just quit this video after 4 Minutes. I couldn't understand half of your words. You invested a lot of time and energy in theses videos. Shift a little bit of your energy from content to presentation of the content :-)
great video! I understood precisely NOTHING :) But seriously, I did understand most of the things. But the problem is that I already forgot most of them, as well LOL. But the explanations are really good. In the end I guess I need to just get into the game and try various skill + item combos and figure things out based on what I remember from your video. Such a damn complicated game, I don't know why they've made it so complicated...
I think i'm dumb, main soldier/shaman actually ahah but I don't understand why converting damage can be interesting in any way, if someone kind can explain to me that I will appreciate
there was a myth going around that when non-Physical damage is converted to Physical; the converted Physical damage will bypass armor and goes straight to resistance. Is there any truth to this or has it been debunked? Thanks, great video!
But how do you explain that shirt conversion when talking about the lack of bleeding conversion? ;) Good video, very useful to see how it differs from conversion mechanics in POE or Last Epoch :)
Hello, I just watched it all and have a query. I'm playing a lazy pet build as a Conjurer at lvl 77. I have the FG MI Korvak's Burning Blade which converts my pet's 100% physical damage to fire damage and gives some additional %fire damage. On this weapon I have the component Enchanted Flint which gives another +75% fire damage for pets, I'm assuming this is additive, yes? Does the Mogdrogen's Pact (flat phys dmg and %phys) buff still apply before the phys damage is converted to fire? Both Storm Spirit (flat elemental + %elemental) and Hellfire (flat fire & chaos + % fire and chaos) will apply additively after the Conversion to fire by my weapon, is that correct? Nice work on the guide, I had to watch it slowly.
Kudos to you sir. Please don't get tired of giving us tips on how to get better on this game. I'm a newbie, just started last month. I have a beginner Cabalist, I searched the build at Grimtools and yeah, so far so good, but I am planning on creating another character, what would you recommend sir? I like the nightblade class but no idea of the combo class or second class to choose... My brain is tired of thinking... hahahaha... I hope you could give me a right path on this... I want to excel in all the game content (Super bosses, SR, crucible) as a nightblade...
What happens when two pieces of gear have 100% conversion of the same damage on a skill? Does it become 50/50? For example - Grasp of the Harbinger gloves = 100% Vitality to Chaos on Doom Bolt Bloodsworn Sigil medal = 100% Vitality to Fire on Doom Bolt
Just smack them harder, 4Head Thanks for your effort. I personally am using a spreadsheet to not uterly loose my shit trying to make a conversion build xD
When should I and why should I use conversion? I’m I trying to push all my damage into one type or multiple types. I’m asking in general not for a specific skill.
For proper endgame scaling you (almost) always want to streamline your damage into one single damage type and stack as much %dmg aswell as -%resistance reduction as you can get. Hybrid damage builds generally end up a lot weaker in Grim Dawn (at least at lvl 100 ultimate).
"Skill modifiers" are all the nodes on the same line as a skill, correct? How do I identify an "item skill modifier"? And while that's not about conversion: say if a skill modifier has +100% fire damage and I have another +100% fire damage globally do these stack multiplicatively or additively?
1) Most of the nodes connected to a skill are skill modifiers to that skill, some of them add damage, increase damage, add buffs/debuffs, some have (local) conversion. Some nodes however add a skill that procs off/is added to the first skill. E.g. in Wind Devil the Raging Tempest node is a skill modifer that directly modifies Wind Devil's hits, but Maelstrom is another skill added on top of Wind Devil. Grim Dawn really doesn't have the best tooltips :D 2) An item skill modifier would e.g. be: "-0.6 seconds skill recharge to Blitz" "100 physical damage to Blitz" "540 internal trauma over 3 seconds to Blitz" on this item www.grimtools.com/db/items/2636 Basically whenever it says "sth sth to *skillname*" it's a skill modifier on an item. Some of them have (local) conversion. 3) Those stack additively unless it says "total damage modified by x%", then it's multiplicative.
😳🤯 Can u advise me any set for my purifier, for maximum fire damage? I'm only on elite, but I'm looking for any good gear, which I could get from any boss with high drop percentage, except super bosses pls 🙂
Keep an eye out for the blue flame keeper set, purple justice set, purple dagallon set, purple Stronghold set. In general however, don't forget that green items can be really good, too.
Oh my.. And I tough that damage conversions in PoE were confusing and unintuitive. This is madness! Thanks for the video anyway. It can be much easier if the game shows me exact damage type and numbers (in my case my pets) in tooltip. Is there maybe mod like this?
Is there any addon for Grim Dawn which would track my dmg done and what type of dmg I've done and why that particular type of dmg was done? I am wondering if there is any tool to track these logs. If you hit a training dummy in the town, it just shows dmg done but it does not differentiate the dmg types (e.g. it could be colored red-fire, green-acid etc.)
Hey, first of all, thanks a lot for making all those guides! Very helpful to a fairly new player such as myself :) I do have a question though. I'm in the process of making a build that converts a bunch of physical damage to lightning. I use both weapon attack skills and others. My main source of conversion will come from my two weapons and their components. Do they also convert skills then? Cause in the ingame tooltip I notice no change in regards to damage types. Or is the tooltip just not taking conversions into account?
If you have %physical damage converted to lightning it converts all damage from all skills, doesn't matter where you have that conversion, unless it specifically says "to x skill". Maybe you have some other type of conversion interfering before the phys to lightning can take place.
This is great information. It would be great to have something similar for the defence side of things as well. It gets complicated with evasion, OA/DA crit/miss, resistance, RR %, flat RR, armor on parts, armor on belts and others, armor absorption %, damage absorption %, flat damage absorption, shield block chance, shield block amount, % race bonus and who know what else I missed! Throw in spell absorption, chance to proc on getting hit (chance to proc upon taking damage is it the same as chance to proc on getting hit?), retaliation, % health reduction and all that too.
What happens if you have two different items in the first layer giving skill damage conversion in opposite directions? An item adding skill conversion of 100% fire to light, and a second giving skill conversion of 100% light to fire?
You can't double convert in Grim Dawn, so all fire damage would become lightning (and stay lightning) while all lightning damage would become fire (and stay fire).
So if i run a defiler agrivix set and i have vindictive flame on would this mean u have 100% fire to aether on every skill/devotion? Or would it just be the aura of vindictive flame.
Conversion on vindictive flame does not work like an aura, it only converts the flame's dmg. If the conversion was on flame touched instead, it would convert all dmg.
@@rektbyprotoss thx for the comment, will try that and hope i will understand the conversion stuff. Anyway your other vids were very helpful to me so big TY
Side note:
At 7:12 "the same thing for vit decay" would actually only be the case if the build also had +200% vit decay, since DoT and flat damage is scaled seperately.
just decided to start up grim dawn again fresh after deleting all my old stuff and your videos are a big help for deepere knowledge and reminders!
this was the most helpful grim dawn video ive ever seen as a theory crafting addict haha dude worked so hard on this video he wore multiple shirts just to get all the info in
Best video ever for Grim dawn,Good job as always👍🏻
Thank you for destroying my brain buddy
you're welcome :)
Thank you very much for such informative video! Very exided to see new "Basics" ones on your channel. Good job!
I'd like to provide some constructive criticism for you. This is a heavy topic with a lot of math involved. The video is way too fast for that. You are not only speaking fast, you make no pauses at all. You are mousovering items for so short, that by the time I find what should I be looking at you are already on the next item, and also talking in the meantime. It's obvious that you played this game for a long time and understand the mechanics and know all the items, but for newer players it's very hard to follow. Leave some time for us to swallow the information. Sure I could pause the video, but what's the point of watching a video guide if I have to pause every 5 seconds? I have 300 hundred hours in this game, I know the basics, but I don't know what most of these items or spells do, unless I read the whole tooltip. So when editing the video it would be great if you would keep the items' tooltips(at least relevant ones) on the screen while talking about the math. Have a short pause after an explanation, maybe go over it again for more important stuff. I would say that only the overview example was useful for me, I could not follow you on the numbered examples.
I still very much appreciate the effort you put into this.
Thx for the feedback, I'll try to make less quick cuts in the future when discussing these kind of topics. I just feared that the lengh of this video was already getting out of hand, so I tried cropping it a bit.
Welp, I guess the pause button is your best friend for this video as you said...
@@rektbyprotoss and 0.75 speed
I actually wATCH RektbyProtoss videos at .75 speed and even .50 if that is to fast. Works for me.
Please talk much slower and pay more attention to good pronunciation of the words you are using. I just quit this video after 4 Minutes. I couldn't understand half of your words. You invested a lot of time and energy in theses videos. Shift a little bit of your energy from content to presentation of the content :-)
5Head
great video! I understood precisely NOTHING :)
But seriously, I did understand most of the things. But the problem is that I already forgot most of them, as well LOL. But the explanations are really good. In the end I guess I need to just get into the game and try various skill + item combos and figure things out based on what I remember from your video. Such a damn complicated game, I don't know why they've made it so complicated...
How do you know in game if a modifier is global or local, and what exactly does that even mean?
I think i'm dumb, main soldier/shaman actually ahah but I don't understand why converting damage can be interesting in any way, if someone kind can explain to me that I will appreciate
Ravager got Rekt, Cally got Rekt. and now The Internet got Rekt ;-0
Awesome ! Nice vid.
there was a myth going around that when non-Physical damage is converted to Physical; the converted Physical damage will bypass armor and goes straight to resistance. Is there any truth to this or has it been debunked? Thanks, great video!
That is not a myth, that is actually the truth and also the reason why many x -> physical conversion builds perform better than raw physical builds.
But how do you explain that shirt conversion when talking about the lack of bleeding conversion? ;)
Good video, very useful to see how it differs from conversion mechanics in POE or Last Epoch :)
RektbyProtoss: this is preety easy to understand
90% of people here: CONFUSION OF DA HIGHEST ORDA!
wow wow man ! you have to be somewhat good in math to understand this :) amazing job ! thank you very much !
Hello, I just watched it all and have a query.
I'm playing a lazy pet build as a Conjurer at lvl 77.
I have the FG MI Korvak's Burning Blade which converts my pet's 100% physical damage to fire damage and gives some additional %fire damage.
On this weapon I have the component Enchanted Flint which gives another +75% fire damage for pets, I'm assuming this is additive, yes?
Does the Mogdrogen's Pact (flat phys dmg and %phys) buff still apply before the phys damage is converted to fire?
Both Storm Spirit (flat elemental + %elemental) and Hellfire (flat fire & chaos + % fire and chaos)
will apply additively after the Conversion to fire by my weapon, is that correct?
Nice work on the guide, I had to watch it slowly.
Kudos to you sir. Please don't get tired of giving us tips on how to get better on this game. I'm a newbie, just started last month. I have a beginner Cabalist, I searched the build at Grimtools and yeah, so far so good, but I am planning on creating another character, what would you recommend sir? I like the nightblade class but no idea of the combo class or second class to choose... My brain is tired of thinking... hahahaha... I hope you could give me a right path on this... I want to excel in all the game content (Super bosses, SR, crucible) as a nightblade...
@Rektbyprotoss... can you recommend me a nightblade build pls?
Check out his channel bro
Sooo helpful!
Nice helpful guide!
What happens when two pieces of gear have 100% conversion of the same damage on a skill? Does it become 50/50? For example -
Grasp of the Harbinger gloves = 100% Vitality to Chaos on Doom Bolt
Bloodsworn Sigil medal = 100% Vitality to Fire on Doom Bolt
The same thing as in ex #1 at 12:26 will happen. the vit will be split 50/50 between chaos and fire.
Just smack them harder, 4Head Thanks for your effort. I personally am using a spreadsheet to not uterly loose my shit trying to make a conversion build xD
Great Video!
When should I and why should I use conversion? I’m I trying to push all my damage into one type or multiple types. I’m asking in general not for a specific skill.
For proper endgame scaling you (almost) always want to streamline your damage into one single damage type and stack as much %dmg aswell as -%resistance reduction as you can get. Hybrid damage builds generally end up a lot weaker in Grim Dawn (at least at lvl 100 ultimate).
"Skill modifiers" are all the nodes on the same line as a skill, correct?
How do I identify an "item skill modifier"?
And while that's not about conversion: say if a skill modifier has +100% fire damage and I have another +100% fire damage globally do these stack multiplicatively or additively?
1) Most of the nodes connected to a skill are skill modifiers to that skill, some of them add damage, increase damage, add buffs/debuffs, some have (local) conversion. Some nodes however add a skill that procs off/is added to the first skill. E.g. in Wind Devil the Raging Tempest node is a skill modifer that directly modifies Wind Devil's hits, but Maelstrom is another skill added on top of Wind Devil. Grim Dawn really doesn't have the best tooltips :D
2) An item skill modifier would e.g. be:
"-0.6 seconds skill recharge to Blitz"
"100 physical damage to Blitz"
"540 internal trauma over 3 seconds to Blitz"
on this item www.grimtools.com/db/items/2636
Basically whenever it says "sth sth to *skillname*" it's a skill modifier on an item. Some of them have (local) conversion.
3) Those stack additively unless it says "total damage modified by x%", then it's multiplicative.
@@rektbyprotoss Thank you a lot :)
6:30 That's one way to screw up a pierce build!
Why the devs decided that the conversion mechanism has to be so complicated...
😳🤯
Can u advise me any set for my purifier, for maximum fire damage? I'm only on elite, but I'm looking for any good gear, which I could get from any boss with high drop percentage, except super bosses pls 🙂
Keep an eye out for the blue flame keeper set, purple justice set, purple dagallon set, purple Stronghold set. In general however, don't forget that green items can be really good, too.
@@rektbyprotoss tyvm 👌
Oh my.. And I tough that damage conversions in PoE were confusing and unintuitive. This is madness! Thanks for the video anyway. It can be much easier if the game shows me exact damage type and numbers (in my case my pets) in tooltip. Is there maybe mod like this?
Grim Internals shows you real time dps with a breakdown of damage types you deal, so that's pretty much your best bet.
Is there any addon for Grim Dawn which would track my dmg done and what type of dmg I've done and why that particular type of dmg was done? I am wondering if there is any tool to track these logs. If you hit a training dummy in the town, it just shows dmg done but it does not differentiate the dmg types (e.g. it could be colored red-fire, green-acid etc.)
What I've been wanting. Did you find one?
@mysteriousstranger9496 Nope, I stopped playing :)
Hey, first of all, thanks a lot for making all those guides! Very helpful to a fairly new player such as myself :)
I do have a question though. I'm in the process of making a build that converts a bunch of physical damage to lightning. I use both weapon attack skills and others. My main source of conversion will come from my two weapons and their components. Do they also convert skills then? Cause in the ingame tooltip I notice no change in regards to damage types. Or is the tooltip just not taking conversions into account?
If you have %physical damage converted to lightning it converts all damage from all skills, doesn't matter where you have that conversion, unless it specifically says "to x skill".
Maybe you have some other type of conversion interfering before the phys to lightning can take place.
This is great information. It would be great to have something similar for the defence side of things as well. It gets complicated with evasion, OA/DA crit/miss, resistance, RR %, flat RR, armor on parts, armor on belts and others, armor absorption %, damage absorption %, flat damage absorption, shield block chance, shield block amount, % race bonus and who know what else I missed! Throw in spell absorption, chance to proc on getting hit (chance to proc upon taking damage is it the same as chance to proc on getting hit?), retaliation, % health reduction and all that too.
What happens if you have two different items in the first layer giving skill damage conversion in opposite directions? An item adding skill conversion of 100% fire to light, and a second giving skill conversion of 100% light to fire?
You can't double convert in Grim Dawn, so all fire damage would become lightning (and stay lightning) while all lightning damage would become fire (and stay fire).
@@rektbyprotoss ok, yhanks!
Please can 33% chance of + x %lightning on stormcallers pact be converted? Many Thanks
No it can't, %damage is not convertable
@@rektbyprotoss Thank You kindly
So if i run a defiler agrivix set and i have vindictive flame on would this mean u have 100% fire to aether on every skill/devotion? Or would it just be the aura of vindictive flame.
Conversion on vindictive flame does not work like an aura, it only converts the flame's dmg. If the conversion was on flame touched instead, it would convert all dmg.
this is WAYTOODANK
You should improve your sound quality. Too much "shhhh....". Almost hurt my ears :(
Sorry about that, I will get a new mic soonish.
@@rektbyprotoss Nice. I just started GD and your vids is really helped me a lot. Thanks!
My reaction to when i saw this was like- HUH???
Also you talk so fast that i cant understand a word you say with that accent.. *confused*
Sorry to hear that.
As I commented under another comment, for this video 0,75 speed and the pause button are your friend I guess...
@@rektbyprotoss thx for the comment, will try that and hope i will understand the conversion stuff. Anyway your other vids were very helpful to me so big TY
Yikes 0.o
Slow down dude. You talk way too fast with your accent. I barely understood anything you said. 😂
Dude trying to be respectful of time and get through a lot of content. Whoosh