I ride now for 1 year the POD K4 2.0 i really like them I also had a pretty big crash I sadly broke my femur and were out for quit some time. After a long talk with my doctor we were able to say that the knee braces saved my kneecap from geting split apart i were glad I had them. Thanks POD 🙏
me too - I got knee braces last year because of your reviews... at 50 years old I can now ride every day without needing a few days to recover. I purchased the Asterisk Carbon and they're great.
My son and I have been wearing the Mobius X8 for almost a year now and are very happy with them. They are comfortable and we feel give excellent support and protection. Both of ours have some pretty big gashes on them from going down and neither of us have had a single scratch or tweak to our knees. My son actually broke the dial on his from an impact with his peg, we called Mobius and got a new one. We have not tried any other brand but with as happy as we have been with the Mobius I don't know if we ever will. We will not ride without them. Only advise I can give is spend the money and get knee braces before an injury. The pipe can wait. Thank you RM ATV/MX for all the great reviews and information.
I have the Bionic 7 braces, I have 250 hrs of ride time (woods/enduro) on them, they have been very solid, everything still works well, padding has held up super well.
How are Bionic 7 now? How is its durability? They seem to be very good but many people speak very badly about the patella protection. What's your opinion, would you buy it again?
Great breakdown of al the brace options out there. I have the older generation POD K8 braces and love them. I thought they would feel bulky but once strapped on I honestly don't notice them at all and they don't limit my mobility on the bike.
I am getting back into riding at 66 years old! I am concerned about my knees though. I am fit for my age but I really don't want an injury. I will call my insurance company and hope they cover the expense. Great review. It will really help me make a decision.
would really recommend the leatt c-frame even tho it is not on the table. I rode the asterisk dident work for me, it actually fractured on a low speed crash. A little note to the C-frame, I felt like the knee impact protection wasn't good enough, so I took inspiration from the x-frame and bought the AirFlex Hybrid knee pad and wore that under the c-frame So i mad a hybrid from the c-frame and the x-frame hybrid, So a c-frame hybrid xD
my experience with the mobius is complete opposite from you. the knee joint snags my pants almost every time i bend my knee, making it impossible to fully extend my legs and stand up un till i wiggle my legs to fix it. its extremely annoying. and the foam on mine are perfect even after 5 years of heavy usage. i do like the mobius, im just so tired of my knee catching on the pants every time i stand up
I ironmanned the Baja 1000 in the Mobius. Extremely comfortable. My only complaint is the velcro tabs on the straps can tear off (twice for me) if the seam where it transitions from "loop" to scratchy "hook" is resting on the buckle when you cinch it down. Adjust it to avoid this. Otherwise phenomenal brace and I have hundreds of hours in mine. Oh, and the best Asterisk Cell were the older ones with the corset-style laces. Most comfortable ever. I left Asterisk after the next 2 generations didn't fit as well.
your pants dont get stuck in the very front of the knee? my mobius braces catch my pants non stop. been dealing with it for 5 years. i cant stand up without the pants binding in the knee
I did experience what you're talking about a few times. What I ended up doing was putting a knee brace sleeve on over the top of my brace so my pants couldn't catch and it would make it easier to slide my pants on. That or get the Asterisk or Leatt knee brace sleeve pants and problem solved. - Chase
I love my Asterisk Carbon Cell. I'm only 173cm tall but my legs are bigger than XL(or even XXL) of Leatt, POD and Alpinestars because of weightlifting background. Asterisk, on the other hand, has probably the largest XL in these knee braces, and fit my legs perfectly. And especially Carbon Cell is shorter and more low profile than Ultra Cell, and that makes it perfect knee braces for guys with larger legs. Only downside is that they include only one paddings for adjusting knee width. If I am right, they have to be snug fit. I use paddings from my unused Leatt XXL X-Frame.
i had an ACL tear, medial meniscus tear and tibial plateau fracture. after rehab, i got a set of DonJoy defiance braces. i have had them for 10 years now and have put a lot of riding through them. they take some getting used to (as do any knee brace) but i will say to this day not one part on those braces has worn out. now they offer a carbon version of the same brace, i think i will call my rep and possibly upgrade
make a brace with a pad inside contact point for the point of contact on the bike. no grip on motorcycle with hard plastic or steel. needs to be a soft grip contact at motorcycle for grip. this is the exact reason i stick with pads instead. better control and less chance of injuries with better control.
I have been using Knee brace since I stated motocross, I feel a lot more confident with it. On de down side, I cant find a knee brace that doesn't make holes in the inner part of the pants in a short time. Am I the only one with this issue? Any knee brace you could recommend to solve this?
Does any high-end brace offer a non-velcro strapping option. Not a fan of velcro and they cost a lot and have to be replaced often enough. I don't know it's name but some helmuts have an adjustable locking system and I'm hoping that's an option. Thanks.
Not a fan of how Asterisk dumbed down their kneecap protection. I have the 2021 Ultra Cell 2.0 and the knee protection is far superior. The new webbing attachment system is a cheap ass way to cut production costs, and imo results in a less protective knee guard.
This is why I left Asterisk. The old corset lacing style was the best I've ever used. So sad when I finally broke those frames and they couldn't be refurbed
Which one is thinest at the inside hinge? PODS are thick at the hinge with only a small surface area of solid plastic for the knees to hold onto the bike with. The way pods give foam adjustment shims of different thickness does not fix this because there isn't enough surface area under the foam. Also the foam shims don't stay in place. I had to glue mine into place for them to stay. Ridiculous!
The Asterisk Carbon Cell and the Mobius are the two that I would say have the slimmest hinge design. The Alpinestars are also very thin, but they are on discontinued and won't be around much longer, which means you'll have a tough time getting parts for them if something were to fail. They do have a new knee brace coming out, but not sure when we'll see it. - Chase
Hi, which brace would be the best for adventure riding? I'm not a racer, just adventure riding, bit I am the idiot that always drops his fully loaded bike on his knee. And I dont want to have a destroyed knee in the middle of the sahara desert or the mountains of albania. So which would be the best braces for this kind of riding in your opinion?
I don't think there is one that is specifically the best for just adventure riding. It's more important to have a brace that is comfortable and fits well. The brace I have been using now for several years is the Asterisk Carbon Cell 1. Very lightweight, low profile and comfortable. - Chase
I currently have the pod k4 and can't seem to find a boot that fits very well with the knee brace along the calves. Do you have a recommendation on a knee brace that is a thinner profile at the calf?
Of all the braces I've worn, the Alpinestars Bionic 10 is the thinnest and the Asterisk Carbon Cell is second. Alpinestars has a new brace coming out (not sure when) and so the Bionic is discontinued, but there are still some left. I've been wearing the Carbon Cells now for a while and I've really enjoyed them. - Chase
I use the Pod K4 2.0 for about 1 year now. Problem I have is when ever I come off the hinging part that sits on the side of my knee. punches me and bruises the outside of my knee. Was considering trying something different but your talking over $1000 AU to swap to any of the high end gear. Not sure what to do. Any suggestions ?
Anyone have a problem with the leatt xbrace rotating on impact and ripping a giant hole in their calve muscle? Cause I have. Knee clipped a tree doing 5mph in a tight section. Dead on hit to the knee cap. Nothing broke. Just big hole and 20stitches. Lower inner clip did it.
I hope in three years, companies just sell the major parts of a brace then send it to anyone who buys. When received, go to your local 3d printing if you don't have one yourself so the sizing would be perfect for YOU. *Bow*
Some knee brace companies do sell their braces individually and others don't. Prices for a premium knee SET of knee braces can range anywhere from $500-$800.@@robh3895
Unfortunately, no pads can protect against torsional injuries. The manufacturers claim that their braces will provide protection, but... Technically speaking, the protection will be there, but it will be very little, I estimate that it will reduce the rotational force by a maximum of one unit ‰, maybe less. But it won't have any practical impact, so it's just a marketing ploy. They then charge a few hundred percent extra for these fractions of ‰.... The manufacturers know very well, never! state how much the rotational force can be reduced by the protectors. They would have to admit that we don't get anything tangible for our money. From my point of view and after wearing them and after some injuries, quality knee pads will do same job for a fractoin of the braces cost.
We have videos on each of these knee braces where we dig deeper into the details and go over things like materials and weight. We should be better about including that information in all of these videos though. Thanks for watching.
All these knee braces are crap. Cheep materials, dumb design, but the marketing and prices are really at the top. Heavy cheap shit made in china. For these prices you'd expect superior materials, but no. You can buy titanium exhaust can, but the most expensive knee brace still uses steel, aluminum, nylon and of course - lots of velcro - the materials which cost cents in far east. That's a good business I guess.
That is not true. There are braces on this list that are made from carbon fiber and other composite materials that are not certainly not cheap. Also, Asterisk knee braces are hand made in the USA.
Well Zender you sound like such a nice guy. I'm sure people just love to be around you with that attitude. Perhaps you should engineer your own brace, so it can live up to your expectations. I'm sure the engineers at these companies did their best and worked very hard to make a product that's light, durable, effective and as affordable considering the restraints and material costs. Why use exotic materials to make a brace that costs $5,000 if no one can buy it. It would seem you want something custom. You may want to contact one of these companies or similar who specialize in what you're seeking. It's either that or adjust your expectations for a something that costs well under $1,000. Also don't forget inflation. The cost of everything has gone up in some cases over 30%. Businesses need to make money otherwise how can they continue to bring products to market for you to unfairly and ignorantly judge on a video released from a retailer who has no control over the suppliers decisions.
@@yurgon thank you for the input. I have tried many braces, have returned them all. Now I just wear very cheap knee pads and do not race anymore. Market for mx/enduro gear is crazy, you have to have low mfr cost to stay in it. Imho, a lot of stuf is getting worse in quality because of that. I believe that in the future people will be making more and more custom products using readily available services like AI assisted design and 3D printing instead of buying a product of the shelf.
for anyone on the fence about this big purchase, rm has evs knee pads that r like 30 bucks because something is better then nothing haha. thats what i am using til i can afford some braces
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I ride now for 1 year the POD K4 2.0 i really like them I also had a pretty big crash I sadly broke my femur and were out for quit some time. After a long talk with my doctor we were able to say that the knee braces saved my kneecap from geting split apart i were glad I had them. Thanks POD 🙏
how did you break it?
me too - I got knee braces last year because of your reviews... at 50 years old I can now ride every day without needing a few days to recover. I purchased the Asterisk Carbon and they're great.
My son and I have been wearing the Mobius X8 for almost a year now and are very happy with them. They are comfortable and we feel give excellent support and protection.
Both of ours have some pretty big gashes on them from going down and neither of us have had a single scratch or tweak to our knees. My son actually broke the dial on his from an impact with his peg, we called Mobius and got a new one.
We have not tried any other brand but with as happy as we have been with the Mobius I don't know if we ever will. We will not ride without them. Only advise I can give is spend the money and get knee braces before an injury. The pipe can wait.
Thank you RM ATV/MX for all the great reviews and information.
I have the Pod K4 and they have had a hard life. I contacted Pod and they freshen them up. I was blown away by their excellent customer service.
That's awesome to hear! Thanks for watching the video and giving us your thoughts!
I got knee braces this year based on your videos . Thank you for keeping the video's updated/current.
I have the Bionic 7 braces, I have 250 hrs of ride time (woods/enduro) on them, they have been very solid, everything still works well, padding has held up super well.
how do these come loose while driving?
How are Bionic 7 now? How is its durability? They seem to be very good but many people speak very badly about the patella protection. What's your opinion, would you buy it again?
@@goncalosilva15thinking to get Pod k4 & Bionic 7
which one do you recommend ?
Pod, you can change anything at home
Great breakdown of al the brace options out there. I have the older generation POD K8 braces and love them. I thought they would feel bulky but once strapped on I honestly don't notice them at all and they don't limit my mobility on the bike.
Where did you buy replacement parts. Ex ligament I just see the new versions when looking
I am getting back into riding at 66 years old! I am concerned about my knees though. I am fit for my age but I really don't want an injury. I will call my insurance company and hope they cover the expense. Great review. It will really help me make a decision.
POD k4 2.0 saved my knee from enjury, they are the best outthere
would really recommend the leatt c-frame even tho it is not on the table. I rode the asterisk dident work for me, it actually fractured on a low speed crash.
A little note to the C-frame, I felt like the knee impact protection wasn't good enough, so I took inspiration from the x-frame and bought the AirFlex Hybrid knee pad and wore that under the c-frame
So i mad a hybrid from the c-frame and the x-frame hybrid, So a c-frame hybrid xD
:) they actually released a C-Frame Hybrid in the last month or so! looks like you were ahead of the game!
my experience with the mobius is complete opposite from you. the knee joint snags my pants almost every time i bend my knee, making it impossible to fully extend my legs and stand up un till i wiggle my legs to fix it. its extremely annoying. and the foam on mine are perfect even after 5 years of heavy usage. i do like the mobius, im just so tired of my knee catching on the pants every time i stand up
I ironmanned the Baja 1000 in the Mobius. Extremely comfortable. My only complaint is the velcro tabs on the straps can tear off (twice for me) if the seam where it transitions from "loop" to scratchy "hook" is resting on the buckle when you cinch it down. Adjust it to avoid this. Otherwise phenomenal brace and I have hundreds of hours in mine.
Oh, and the best Asterisk Cell were the older ones with the corset-style laces. Most comfortable ever. I left Asterisk after the next 2 generations didn't fit as well.
your pants dont get stuck in the very front of the knee? my mobius braces catch my pants non stop. been dealing with it for 5 years. i cant stand up without the pants binding in the knee
I did experience what you're talking about a few times. What I ended up doing was putting a knee brace sleeve on over the top of my brace so my pants couldn't catch and it would make it easier to slide my pants on. That or get the Asterisk or Leatt knee brace sleeve pants and problem solved. - Chase
@@rmatvmc thanks for the tip!
The carbon Asterisk braces are very nice. I like them a lot more than the legacy Astersik braces.
I love my Asterisk Carbon Cell.
I'm only 173cm tall but my legs are bigger than XL(or even XXL) of Leatt, POD and Alpinestars because of weightlifting background.
Asterisk, on the other hand, has probably the largest XL in these knee braces, and fit my legs perfectly. And especially Carbon Cell is shorter and more low profile than Ultra Cell, and that makes it perfect knee braces for guys with larger legs.
Only downside is that they include only one paddings for adjusting knee width. If I am right, they have to be snug fit. I use paddings from my unused Leatt XXL X-Frame.
i had an ACL tear, medial meniscus tear and tibial plateau fracture. after rehab, i got a set of DonJoy defiance braces. i have had them for 10 years now and have put a lot of riding through them. they take some getting used to (as do any knee brace) but i will say to this day not one part on those braces has worn out.
now they offer a carbon version of the same brace, i think i will call my rep and possibly upgrade
make a brace with a pad inside contact point for the point of contact on the bike. no grip on motorcycle with hard plastic or steel. needs to be a soft grip contact at motorcycle for grip. this is the exact reason i stick with pads instead. better control and less chance of injuries with better control.
Great video would you happen to know which knee brace or braces are used? Mostly by the pro riders top three please
What happened to the CTI knee brace, It's not making the list?
Im looking at gettiing a mobis x8 after my knee injury im wondering if it cover my knee going sideways like bending in towards the inside or outside
I have been using Knee brace since I stated motocross, I feel a lot more confident with it. On de down side, I cant find a knee brace that doesn't make holes in the inner part of the pants in a short time. Am I the only one with this issue? Any knee brace you could recommend to solve this?
Your videos are awesome I have a question about knee braces. Which ones will the medical insurance cover and have medial codes for them?
The Leatt X-Frame Hybrid, Pod K4 2.0, and Mobius X8 qualify as medical devices and should be able to be covered by some insurances.
Ortema?
Question does teh POD Model protect your knee cap like if you hit the ground? Do the POD Knee braces have pading to protect the Knee cap ?
Does any high-end brace offer a non-velcro strapping option. Not a fan of velcro and they cost a lot and have to be replaced often enough. I don't know it's name but some helmuts have an adjustable locking system and I'm hoping that's an option. Thanks.
I'm not aware of any knee braces that don't use velcro on the straps - Chase
Do you have a list of which one of these has medical codes?
The Leatt X-Frame Hybrid, Pod K4 2.0, and Mobius X8 qualify as medical devices and should be able to be covered by some insurances.
Not a fan of how Asterisk dumbed down their kneecap protection. I have the 2021 Ultra Cell 2.0 and the knee protection is far superior. The new webbing attachment system is a cheap ass way to cut production costs, and imo results in a less protective knee guard.
This is why I left Asterisk. The old corset lacing style was the best I've ever used. So sad when I finally broke those frames and they couldn't be refurbed
is x frame hybrid seriously better than Leatt C-Frame Pro Carbon ? Im looking to buy one soon and only looking at these 2
If I had to choose between those two, I would go with the X-frame hybrid. They're more low profile than the C-frame. - Chase
@@rmatvmcbetween Pod k4 / X fram hybrid / Bionic 7 which one do you recommend ?
Which one is thinest at the inside hinge? PODS are thick at the hinge with only a small surface area of solid plastic for the knees to hold onto the bike with. The way pods give foam adjustment shims of different thickness does not fix this because there isn't enough surface area under the foam. Also the foam shims don't stay in place. I had to glue mine into place for them to stay. Ridiculous!
The Asterisk Carbon Cell and the Mobius are the two that I would say have the slimmest hinge design. The Alpinestars are also very thin, but they are on discontinued and won't be around much longer, which means you'll have a tough time getting parts for them if something were to fail. They do have a new knee brace coming out, but not sure when we'll see it. - Chase
@@rmatvmc thanks for the fast response 👍
Hi, which brace would be the best for adventure riding?
I'm not a racer, just adventure riding, bit I am the idiot that always drops his fully loaded bike on his knee. And I dont want to have a destroyed knee in the middle of the sahara desert or the mountains of albania. So which would be the best braces for this kind of riding in your opinion?
I don't think there is one that is specifically the best for just adventure riding. It's more important to have a brace that is comfortable and fits well. The brace I have been using now for several years is the Asterisk Carbon Cell 1. Very lightweight, low profile and comfortable. - Chase
@@rmatvmc Okay, thank you very much for your answer
Asterisk =1
I currently have the pod k4 and can't seem to find a boot that fits very well with the knee brace along the calves. Do you have a recommendation on a knee brace that is a thinner profile at the calf?
Of all the braces I've worn, the Alpinestars Bionic 10 is the thinnest and the Asterisk Carbon Cell is second. Alpinestars has a new brace coming out (not sure when) and so the Bionic is discontinued, but there are still some left. I've been wearing the Carbon Cells now for a while and I've really enjoyed them. - Chase
@@rmatvmc are the bionic 7s just as thin?
mobius are very good but wire is bad. mine ate it for dinner
I use the Pod K4 2.0 for about 1 year now. Problem I have is when ever I come off the hinging part that sits on the side of my knee. punches me and bruises the outside of my knee. Was considering trying something different but your talking over $1000 AU to swap to any of the high end gear. Not sure what to do. Any suggestions ?
what about just adding more or different padding to the sides where it's bruising you ?
@@SecondHalfofLife yes tried that but has to be so thin to fit. Thanks for the reply.
Anyone have a problem with the leatt xbrace rotating on impact and ripping a giant hole in their calve muscle? Cause I have. Knee clipped a tree doing 5mph in a tight section. Dead on hit to the knee cap. Nothing broke. Just big hole and 20stitches. Lower inner clip did it.
Wow, that's huge bummer! Which Leatt braces? The X-Frame Hybrid or regular X-Frame?
I hope in three years, companies just sell the major parts of a brace then send it to anyone who buys. When received, go to your local 3d printing if you don't have one yourself so the sizing would be perfect for YOU. *Bow*
To bad none of these fit lol only found one that would
Sitting here with a broken knee 😂😂
Check out all these knee braces here! www.rockymountainatvmc.com/Sales/3584/2023-MX-Knee-Brace-Buyers-Guide
$500 bucks each / pair ?
Not sure which brace you're referring to but you can click the link in the the description to see all the braces and prices.
Forget the $500 , read the rest. Are your prices for a pair or each , Not mentioned in the video.. ta.
Some knee brace companies do sell their braces individually and others don't. Prices for a premium knee SET of knee braces can range anywhere from $500-$800.@@robh3895
Unfortunately, no pads can protect against torsional injuries. The manufacturers claim that their braces will provide protection, but... Technically speaking, the protection will be there, but it will be very little, I estimate that it will reduce the rotational force by a maximum of one unit ‰, maybe less. But it won't have any practical impact, so it's just a marketing ploy. They then charge a few hundred percent extra for these fractions of ‰.... The manufacturers know very well, never! state how much the rotational force can be reduced by the protectors. They would have to admit that we don't get anything tangible for our money. From my point of view and after wearing them and after some injuries, quality knee pads will do same job for a fractoin of the braces cost.
Do not buy the alpinestar!! They broke on the carbon fiber on my first ride.
And this review is also crap. Is it hard to weight the products?
We have videos on each of these knee braces where we dig deeper into the details and go over things like materials and weight. We should be better about including that information in all of these videos though. Thanks for watching.
All these knee braces are crap. Cheep materials, dumb design, but the marketing and prices are really at the top. Heavy cheap shit made in china. For these prices you'd expect superior materials, but no. You can buy titanium exhaust can, but the most expensive knee brace still uses steel, aluminum, nylon and of course - lots of velcro - the materials which cost cents in far east. That's a good business I guess.
That is not true. There are braces on this list that are made from carbon fiber and other composite materials that are not certainly not cheap. Also, Asterisk knee braces are hand made in the USA.
Well Zender you sound like such a nice guy. I'm sure people just love to be around you with that attitude. Perhaps you should engineer your own brace, so it can live up to your expectations. I'm sure the engineers at these companies did their best and worked very hard to make a product that's light, durable, effective and as affordable considering the restraints and material costs. Why use exotic materials to make a brace that costs $5,000 if no one can buy it.
It would seem you want something custom. You may want to contact one of these companies or similar who specialize in what you're seeking. It's either that or adjust your expectations for a something that costs well under $1,000. Also don't forget inflation. The cost of everything has gone up in some cases over 30%. Businesses need to make money otherwise how can they continue to bring products to market for you to unfairly and ignorantly judge on a video released from a retailer who has no control over the suppliers decisions.
@@yurgon thank you for the input. I have tried many braces, have returned them all. Now I just wear very cheap knee pads and do not race anymore. Market for mx/enduro gear is crazy, you have to have low mfr cost to stay in it. Imho, a lot of stuf is getting worse in quality because of that. I believe that in the future people will be making more and more custom products using readily available services like AI assisted design and 3D printing instead of buying a product of the shelf.
for anyone on the fence about this big purchase, rm has evs knee pads that r like 30 bucks because something is better then nothing haha. thats what i am using til i can afford some braces