Spider-Man No Way Home After the Hype
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2023
- Spider-Man No Way Home’s release was one of the biggest comic book movie events of all time. Now that some time has passed, I want to take a look back at it after the hype has died down.
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I still love how Mysterio just made up a bunch of shit about the multiverse, including universe designations, and then Multiverse of Madness confirmed he was completely right.
Mysterio just happening to guess that they're in reality 616 and getting it right is too much of a stretch for me lol also can't wait to see you destroy the mk1 story mode in 5 years lol hopefully it's actually good and you don't have to lol
@@reaper.-._.-._.-._.-. yeah part of me felt FFH's multiverse talk was written as purely a joke/jab at the multiverse idea before the people in charge were like "wait actually... no that unironically"
I still don't like the idea of making the MCU "616" at all though since uh... that's the main comics which I wouldn't be a huge stickler for if it wasn't for the fact the MCU is obviously drastically different from basically anything that universe has done with the characters.
It has more in common with The Ultimate/1610 universe if anything but yeah part of me is hoping they step back from that and **actually** take the multiverse thing seriously instead of just another concept to "adapt" as their's.
@@Shift_Salt Well, glad that at least the alternate Spider-People were able to correct that by classifying MCU Peter as “that nerd from Earth-1999999”.
It’s literally like…
Mysterio: “I’m from Earth 833. NAH KIDDING!”
Peter around NWH: *sees Raimi Goblin, Sandman, and Doc Ock, and Webb Lizard and Electro AND other versions of himself just one movie later*
@@reaper.-._.-._.-._.-.I got faith in Netherrealm Studios making a laughably bad but enjoyable story. Seeing as multiverse arcs are trendy as fuck, I could see Liu Kang having to stop incursions or anomalies from occurring.
3 is the magic number
Yes it is
@@YogurtAlly2422It’s a magic number.
That’s why people say 3rd times a charm
Andrew still has yet to get there 😔
Seeing No Way Home on release day is still the greatest night of my life as a Spider-Man fan. I felt so lucky I got to see this film and I was so happy that Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man got the vindication he deserved
Spider-Man: No Way Home is a love letter to longtime fans.
I very much agree. I honestly feel that way even more so about the spider verse movies too.
And a legitimate and heartfelt apology to Andrew Garfield. I liked nearly nothing in the Amazing SM films, but this movie makes me want to rewatch them and try to find that spark in Garfield that I saw here, I actually want them to bring the same writers for this movie and reboot the ASM universe.
*..In the most lazy way possible tho..*
Yeah, I can still remember the whole theatre reaction. It was glorious.
A love letter that has a lackluster story and only relies on nostalgia lol, get a grip
I have a amazing memory of watching Spider-Man 2 with my grandfather in Fiji when I was 8 years old and loving it so much he died in October of 2019 and i fell into depression watching Spider-Man no way home seeing Tobey Maguires Spider-Man again he brought back the hope for me again to keep going in life
My brain conjoined the words "Amazing" and "Spiderman 2"
I'm sorry for everything you went through. Glad to see you doing better now.
@@vaggos2003 thank you for the kindness I kinda go back and forth with my depression i also have borderline personality disorder found that out in 2021 so my mood swings are a pain in my ass lol
@@NadeemShekh-uy9znYou have my bestcwishes for the future. Take care and God bless you, everyone close to you and the whole world.
Amen.
@@vaggos2003 thanks I wish you the best as well nice to know there are kind people in the world like you
I like how sandman is in his literal sand form throught the film it makes me think as he got older hes struggling to contain the human form, its abit sad but a fun headcannon
That’s actually a story in the comics, sandman couldn’t contain his normal form and kept falling apart until he completely turned into sand and got blown away by the wind, spending his last moments on the beach with Spider-Man.
@@onesaucynougat7471 Do you know the name of the comic?
but why side with the villains during goblins speech? and if that is the implication intended, him fleeing makes even less sense.
I always thought it was just because they didn't have the actor and was just completely CGI. It's still his voice and made for a couple good jokes but I thought it was kinda lazy.
@@MyNameBeeKayythe actor was unavailable to shoot due to scheduling conflicts. He could only do the voice. It wasn’t lazy, it was a compromise
The rooftop scene is legit one of my favourite Spider-Man moments of all time. I damn near cried in the theater.
Still can't get over how awesome that movie was!
After the movies release, a bunch of people decided to rewatch Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man films and they started to like them again just like what they did with the Star Wars prequel trilogy.
I really really hope Andrew gets his third film
You have a weird view of the word awesome
I appreciate what they wanted to try on TASM1, a darker story for a different Peter Parker, but it stumbled on execution, and the Lizard was not a compelling villain (on top of the bad CGI he got).
TASM2 is just straight up dumpster fire.
I liked the first amazing movie when it came out, it’s alr looking back now. The second one sucks. People like jumping on the band wagon.
@@lukerne9260cry more
Shit was mid.
The Fact that they made this an origin story is absolute class.
The best filmmaking is semi-planned, semi-spontaneous. It's insane they were able to put this movie together.
The commentary on MCU Peter's requirement of his "uncle Ben moment" is very....funny after Across The Spider verse.
That’s very interesting, actually! This comment made me think a little more about whether it is a requirement or not. I think for this particular version of Peter, where I take it that he’s supposed to be a reflection of classic Peter to a certain degree, should have that “Uncle Ben moment.”
No1 speaks about how Tobey’s Spider-Man says Harry died trying to kill him, which is NOT the case. He died helping you, boi!
Yeah it was kind of hard to not think that Andrew and tobey were not returning. They really had doc ox in the trailers so tobey was always a given in my eyes.
The reason Doctor Strange was easily convinced to help Peter with the spell was because it was an easy spell, that he had done before to make Wong forget that party.
All the “also the lizards here” with the music screech and close up shots had me crying laughing for some reason 😂😂😂
I still love TASM1 and 2 and this movie is just proof that critics and overly obsessed spiderman fans aren't the end all be all of Spider-man movie opinions. Nobody liked the TASM movies when they came out, but now we're fond of them because thanks to NWH we can sit back and appreciate all the movie adaptations for what they were. We need TASM 3!!
TASM 2 is still hot trash. TASM 1 was good but 2 suffered from Spider-Man 3 syndrome and Goblin who should have a whole movie to himself got the Venom treatment. Rhino even worse.
Andrew is a good Spider-Man in bad movies. Pretty simple. I love Andrew and the TASM2 suit but I hate both TASM movies.
I still hate both
Everything leading up to this film was crazy however my biggest gripe with the film is how they handle Peter having his identity exposed to the world, because there are multiple moments like when Matt Murdock coming in the picture or that one college lady saying she was gonna advocate for Peter only for it to get dropped in favor for something else
Glad this is back up, had the original queued up for later and came back to see it delisted.
Happy to hear your thoughts on this one Diego.
I loved the fan service, ate every reference right up. But i think this movie shines not just because of the cameos, but because the character and plot development is so damn strong! THIS is spidermans origin story, this is Toms version stepping into the best known version of the character : broke, alone but choosing to be good regardless of what the world does. Like it or not part of what makes spiderman so compelling is how he just continuously gets pummelled by trauma over and over again and still gets up and chooses to be a hero, and its really great how instead of just dedicating a movie to the fan service ( which honestly i wouldve been okay with) they took the opportunity to make THIS movie key in spideys arc. You can ignore Far From Home and Homecoming and call them fillers but No Way Home cannot be filler because even without Andrew and Toby it is still instrumental to spiderman fully stepping into his identity.
*I think it’s juss the nostalgia for you..*
Nah
Agreed
I mean you literally said it yourself “I loved the fan service, ate every reference right up” this movie is ass. The only reason people like this is due to nostalgia. Jfc
@@bakashinji did you even read the rest?
It's magical how NWH pushes the MCU and its current theme forward with the multiversal threats and at the same time gives their version of Spiderman a complete arch and wraps up a trilogy with incredible fan service and sets up another set of Spiderman movies taking Peter forward.
You named EVERY SINGLE problem I had with this movie but I didn't care for aunts death since we never really see her alot
Facts!!!
I truly think Tom Holland and William dafoe are fantastic in this movie. They truly made me so invested in the movie that I didn’t care if the rumours were true. I didn’t even care as much about the other villains it was just nice to see them more than anything. But I think people really do a disservice to this movie. I think if you took everything out and left dafoe and Tom this movie would be just as good.
Definitely would've liked a whole movie between a story like this and Far Frome Home, actually explore the identity reveal plot, and definitely one to properly set up Dare Devil in the MCU Proper.
I definitely still like most of what this movie did, will like to see where Spider-Man in the MCU goes from here but honestly if possible wouldn't mind more Andrew Garfield as long as competent people are put in charge.
Still want a Spider-Girl story too, maybe Tobey Peter's daughter even. Shots in the dark maybe but still, this showed a ton of new possibilities for the character.
Bruh that's exactly what I've been thinking lately....
The last Tobey movie should be a legacy character such as Peters Daughter and not miles. But for me personally... I'll rather a more drama and love and less combat. Bc u would wanna see the Father life more than just being a hero. Tobey deserves a good ending.
The extended cut adds some scenes with that, though yeah its overshadowed by the multi-verse.
No Way Home is still a solid movie on rewatch. The way they did fanservice actually helps elevate this film's story.
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Anyone that says Spider-Mana no way home is overrated just doesn't understand how much of a miracle it is that this movie even exists for a long time it was just a hypothetical dream crossover that fans would make up on spider-man fan fic TH-cam channels the fact that Sony, Marvel and Disney actually collaborated and made the film as great as it is truly is a miracle because it could've been a disaster like rise of skywalker, rings of power, jurassic world dominion or the recent alien, predator and terminator movies its a miracle this movie actually exists its a love letter to 20 years of Spider-Man movies from the raimi trilogy and the tasm movies while also being the third mcu spider-man movie for tom hollands spider-man
Just rewatched it for the first time since seeing it in the theater. It’s flawed, but it’s still just as fun as I remember it, and I think it succeeds far more than it misses. I think the Spiderverse trilogy will ultimately be remembered as the better films, especially with the multiverse comparison, but that shouldn’t take away from this one. No Way Home, for all its faults, was something truly special.
hardly ever comment, but randomly came across your vid and subscribed. Review is well done man, you have a knack for it. Keep it up!
Thank you so much!
I feel pretty much the same, the movie was fun, had some more real peter moments from all 3 spidermen and the rest for me felt pretty superfluous and unnecessary, but did feel like a good restart of the Spiderman story for the MCU, I can't stand the highschool stories, I found them to be very dull, so seeing this next chapter sound exciting as the character is kind of at his lowest and has a literal clean slate, great video, I enjoyed all the collaboration on the playlist too!!!
Yk i like when andrew appears he was still in his spider man suit showing he has been more spiderman than peter and tobey wore regular clothes showing he has balance between peter and spider man
I agree with you about Andrew Garfield Spiderman portrayal he never got the respect he rightfully deserve and you can tell they need to conclude both Tobey and Andrew Spidey storylines justice.Glad Michael Keaton reprising Batman will be done right maybe the old 2 Spiderman ends at the same level.
This was actually a good video and not rough around the edges at all. I would be interested in hearing you talk more about movies. Your videos are a lot more insightful than most of TH-cam so it could be interesting to hear your thoughts about different things
Thanks a lot, man! This is really encouraging.
Top quality video. Keep it up!
i avoided ALL media pertaining to marvel so that i could go into the movie with no expectations, boy was i shook when all my old favorite characters started popping up
I remember chuckling at the name and audibly said with a friend, “Next Spider-Man after this- I’m calling it, Spider-Man: There is no home anymore.
I agree. This is the MCUs Spider-Man origin. It’s beautiful and amazing they pulled this off.
Tocayo! No conocía tu canal pero el algoritmo me lo recomendó y ahora soy un fan! Big ups!
Muchas gracias!
This is a really good video I didn’t realize u had under 10k subs. U have good opinions keep it up
Thank you! Really means a lot to me.
Spiderverse started the multiverse trend - they did it well and everyone followed, so Sony showed à successful blueprint with the animated movie and now we're in the era of universe this and universe that.
That post credit scene at the end of let there be carnage was such a huge tease
That’s a good call!
My only big question at the end was if strange's spell made everyone in every universe forget who Peter is. Which would be savage
Does this spell affect selfies with him, high school transcripts, and legal paperwork like drivers licenses and stuff?
@@joker6558 It would be weird if it didn't wouldn't it?
@@juannaym8488 I just mean, imagine having hundreds of selfies of a random dude you don’t know. Like, “hey MJ, check all your pics and you’ll see your memory was erased”
This was the last superhero film I’ve ever seen in a theater, I haven’t gone to the theater to see a superhero film since.
on the electro being different thing i honestly think all of the villains from the older movies were variants of the original movies villains, some that went thru the same or similar events but all variants nonetheless. they don’t even all dress the same as they did before so my assumption is this is a different electro from tasm2, one that knows spider-man’s identity
I’ve been seeing that argument a lot and I think it’s a totally reasonable one. But I can’t deny that it takes away from the excitement of seeing who I would want to be the exact version of the villains seen in the prior movies.
I remember when we all saw those screenshot leaks. At the time it was pretty much confirmation, but there was still just enough doubt to somewhat temper expectations. To know they were 100% real is nuts
What's funny is now I think the Spider man 2099 went back and murdered all the villains again right after No Way Home ended since he clearly stated it caused problems in the multiverse
9:53 PM drop? Alright. I'm HERE!
I could not stop laughing when Norman Osborne in the Alley way looks up worried, and the Helmet yells " COWARD". After all these years the helmet still bothers him like a crazy girlfriend. I died laughing.
Was it really after all these years for him when he was about to be killed by his own glider when pulled out of his own universe?
I wish they did more scenes of Peters life ousted as Spider-Man. Like Flash saying “omg, I bullied you for years & instead of you saying who you were , you kept it a secret!” Or “omg, you could’ve literally fought me with one hand but you didn’t” I’ve been bullied since elementary- senior year of hs, mostly by the same kid. I sometimes day dreamt of kicking his 🍑 & even if I lost “I could do this all day” before Cap said it. I had that same mindset. I wouldn’t, even if I had super strength but seeing the bully be wrong & have him get what’s coming , physical or not, I love that.
so i wasn’t the only one in denial about the multiverse haha!
He will need a lawyer and its very obvious...
She hulk
Word!
this makes me wana rewatch it right meow
great video man!
Thank you!
np; anyway I think I agree with most of your arguments here;
also good quality of video and I think your channel could blow up soon, so keep going my man
I almost cried with happiness in the cinema when watching this movie. I watched the Sam Remi Spiderman movies so many times, I also saw the first Amazing Spiderman movie with Andrew Garfield and I love the Tom Holland Spiderman as well. I guess I just really love Spiderman.
31:42 I’ve never seen you before but you actually did wicked. Liked and subbed
Thank you so much!
This is still my favorite movie of all time. Even when the hype faded I still think this is a great Spider-Man story with some very minor nitpicks I have
Of all time? You should see more movies
@@bentowle3478 bro let the man have his opinion lmfao
@@bentowle3478 or I just really like the movie 💀
I think with them erasing everyones memory of peter, it can open up alot of possibilities for better stories to be told. I just hope they took some notes with the reception they got from no way home and impliment it in the new films. They gotta lean more to the serious tones and less of the mcu comedy.
Excellent video, my man! I loved 'No Way Home.'
I also agree that 'Far From Home' wasn't so great.
To me, this movie is like 'Revenge of the Sith,' in that it sparks theories. For instance, I'm interested in the impacts this left on other universes. Do we have a universe where Doc Ock's machine destroyed Tobey's NY? Where the citizens of Andrew's NY are transformed into reptilians? Perhaps Andrew Peter's absence would result in a universe where that Harry doesn't kill Gwen?
If there was one thing I'm mixed about, it's Aunt May's death. On one hand, yes, it served in purpose in the immediate story: not only establishing Tom's Spider-man, but also challenging his morality, making his fight with Green Goblin personal, and also giving the other Spider-men the chance to serve as moral reminders.
But on the other hand, I feel like her surviving would've made room for future storytelling potential. We could've seen an Aunt May who doesn't even know her own nephew, maybe even resents Spider-man, and how that'd impact Tom's Peter emotionally. I almost feel like we've been cheated out of that.
Would’ve been cool to see Tobey or Andrew in the 2012 Avengers movie.
Who knows what could've been better than what we got I kinda feel like they should've kept 1 Spiderman which was Tobey Maguire or Andrew Garfield would been great.
I LOVED Endgame & saw it twice, in Infinity War, I sat in the same position when everyone else left & my mom & sister were behind me feeling sad for me bc they lost.
Endgame felt like a satisfying ending 😉 for the OG characters but man, I wish Tony , Steve , & the other OG Avengers lived to fight Kang & other villains
Only saw it once
@@suzygirl1843 it was so surreal for me the first time so my mom & sister went with me the second time I went
The Updates. Set Photos. Trailer. The Build Up Was Such a Crazy Fun journey And No Way Home Delivered Still Was Really Good To Me Even When The Hyped Died Down Those Days Still Will Never Be Forgotten.
WHAT ITS BEEN 2 YEARS IT FELT LIKE LAST WEEK
“Wait, wait, wait… I love you guys.”
Not once did Toby talk to Green Goblin and that makes me sick
Honestly feel like if this movie did revolve around the identity thing with an introduction to some villan(not sure who) that knows who he is and he loses alot like aunt may or mj and the end of the movie pushes him to his initial decision of changing the world on his identity that ends up going into the multiverse and the follow up film be based on that. This Film spent alot of time jugling things that this route would split up the plot points so they have room to breath.
I stopped watching after Endgame expect Spiderman FFH and NWH. I didn't like NWH because it was a fan service quantity over quality. I only loved the ending cause it's true to the Spiderman character like Toby's movies.
Great video 🎉
No Way Home is ton of fun and that fun factor is still there when watching it alone on DVD at home, but a lot of that comes from the novelty of seeing three different Spider-Man movie franchises crossover and the inner-logic of some of the plot-points are super easy to nitpick. The fanboy hyperbole of this being the best Spider-Man movie is nonsense (would personally rank it as the number four, behind SM2, Homecoming and the first Raimi movie), but I still like it very much.
No Way Home is a great rewatch.
I wanted to know what became of uncle Ben in the MCU is my greatest compliant with the MCU version of Spider-Man.
I honestly love this movie because it kinda gave TASM duology ending/like the third movie that probably will never come out. I can only wait and see. But im sure there is third in some other universe lol
While not a huge fan of this film it finally got the character right in the mcu. So it’s got that going for it, and I hope the stick to this more down to earth version of the character they set up.
16:30 it's hilarious now when I rewatch it, I just die laughing. I cringed tho in No Way Home, he doesn't just say that he was telling that specifically to Peter
awesome vid
People focus on the fan service (which is understandable) and try to say that it's cheap or the movie would suck without Tobey and Andrew, but the truth is, It's a great movie regardless. It's got comedy, it's got darkness, it's got great action, it's got heart, and most of all it was the perfect evolution of Tom Holland's Spider-Man journey. They found a way to not only incorporate fan service to make everyone lose their minds with excitement, but they also did it in a way that serves the story and Tom Holland's Spider-Man completely. Yes, it may have some plot points that don't make total sense (mostly with Dr Strange) but honestly no Marvel movie has a perfect script. Endgame is beloved and has the most plot holes probably ever, thanks to the introduction of time travel. People still love that movie though because despite those issues, the script served the characters journeys perfectly and that's exactly the case with No Way Home. I watched this movie recently and it's still awesome. I'm definitely not on board with the people who feel like it's cool to hate this movie now.
The thing that urked me the most was Sam Ramis Spiderman not interacting with the green goblin that was so jarring
23:50 i always thought it wouldve been cool for them to open a portal to seeing spiderman fighting the lizard and hes winning (to show how big of a threat he is) he chases spiderman through the portal destroy the house, until ned uses his newfound ability under stress to teleport the lizard into Dr stranges cage. Then spiderman takes off his mask revealing to be Tobey spiderman. i just like to subvert expectations lol
Norman’s Green Goblin suit looked off. New green color, bigger helmet. And I wish he wore the helmet & had that fight with Tobey on the glider
Love this video, however.. they continue to make sub par movies and drop in little things we all go nuts for.. like you said it's more like live action Random comics.. the cinema esque is gone.. all green screen.. it's all so strange
They gave AVI ARAD a big thank you in the credits
But do you know who else deserves a big thank you?
LAURA ZISKIN
It was because of her and her partner (the screenwriter Alvin Sargent) that the original trilogy and TASM1 had depth
Arad on the other hand just wanted to use the movies to sell toys
What can I watch this on without paying?!?
Great video. People rag on this movie way too much.
Watching for the first time great movie but haven't watched it sense then
I left the video nice I seen that bootleg controller in the back
This was just the general public getting a turn at reacting to the 10th Anniversary of Doctor Who, The Three Doctors.
I wonder if She Hulk knows of Peter through Murdock or her fourth wall breaking
They took the consequences of one more day and turned it up several notches
I actually really enjoy that Dr. Strange just does this reality changing magic so nonchalant. Really plays into his arrogance. Hes done this spell for wild parties, why wouldnt this work? Then peter throwing in all these additonal changes, and strange still thinking that he can keep this spell under control.
I thought they didn't want to make Tobey and Andrew not too epic with their entrances and stuff, because they don't want to take away from the new "Tom Holland" Spiderman. Or they would just make it too obvious of what the fans could have gotten instead.
Strange just do it lightly because it's supposed to be a simple mind reset spell but then it's messed up so bad that everything happen
Nah I feel bad for kids who never gonna know how packed the movies were for endgame
i think electro got pulled from his timeline during the final fight in tasm 2
While I get everyone's frustration there was no Uncle Ben moment, this was literally covered before Civil War came out. We knew for weeks they had skipped Uncle Bens death because we had seen it twice already in Spider-Man and TASM. We didnt need to see it again, Peter hinted at jt enough already in Civil War. How so many people seem to act ignorant like they dont know Peter had an Uncle Ben here is insane. The writers respect MCU fans intelligence one time and all of a sudden you're all wondering where Uncle Ben is just because he isnt on screen.
I love no way home but rewatchable don't work for me cause I seen these character's already in there own movies idk like I already seen this
After Dock Ock fights Tom. They completely made him into a joke.
Made fun of his name, and his powers locked him up for over half an hour. Threw him out the window like he was trash. And randomly come back out of nowhere just to defeat electro??
Why couldn’t he just work with Norman Osborn as the final villains? There was just so much more interesting content they could’ve done with him. But they used him for tentacle jokes. 😭😭😭
The Electro thing doesn't make sense they just didn't want to bring the Harry version of Green Goblins
I know this will be a very unpopular opinion, but I feel like much of the praise mentioned in this video is what is wrong with the movie and it’s discourse. Typically, it boils down to “OMG tobey and Andrew were back with my favorite villains, the movie is so good” but without nostalgia, this movie is not good.
Imagine watching this without seeing the raimi or Webb movies. It would suck. It’s tonally a mess, has massive plot holes, so many conveniences just to make a few of the problems. Without fan service or nostalgia, this movie wouldn’t work. Look at Across the Spiderverse. Take out the nostalgia/cameos and that movie is still insanely good, because it doesn’t rely on them. This movie has to use a ton of plotholes to bring in the other spidermen, just to completely rely on them and their nostalgia to make the movie enjoyable. They use it as a crutch, which is not good writing
i have a little questions for you guys. wich ''old'' spider-man you prefer, the peter b parker from spider verse, or tobey's peter parker from no way home? and why?
I cant wait for Miguel oharas spoderman movie. Spiderman no way homes
After this I wonder what route theyll take with Tom. Give him 3 more standalone movies? Push him back into Sony movies? Technically still in the MCU just not Iron Boy anymore. It will be interesting to see how they implement him back and get the remaining MCU to recognize him.
They still remember Spider-Man. Just not the guy behind the mask.
@@joker6558 So he's still part of the Avengers? With all the tech at his disposal?
@@Bionimetic the spell said to forget Peter Parker, not spider man. So yes, Spider-Man is still remembered but not who is behind the mask, so that means that maybe he is part of the avengers? Idk about access to tech since it was Peter who had access to it.
I'm sorry but I just cannot believe that they are wasting a movie on kraven the hunter. Who the hell wants this movie? I know I don't. I just don't get it.
No way home is the only watchable thing the MCU has made since Endgame. That said, it's definitely got its issues.
Electro definitely didnt know peters identity. I remember a line in the movie where electro was like "i thought you'd be black" or something along thise lines
Idk about you guys but my love for NWH hasn’t changed. I still love it
Same!