IFR Flying Around Weather - Day 18 of The 31 Day Safer Pilot Challenge

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  • @DavidMiller-rw2gj
    @DavidMiller-rw2gj ปีที่แล้ว +30

    18 for 18. I actually cancelled my IFR check ride due to marginal weather that was threatening to become solid IMC. Figured I didn’t want to be in actual IMC while doing a check ride. Got props from the DPE for “good ADM”. Rescheduled for 2 days later, and passed. The first thing the DPE said on check ride day was “you seem to have great personal minimums, I like that!”

    • @jingle1161
      @jingle1161 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cancelling a flight is also flying 👍

    • @tomgjestvang356
      @tomgjestvang356 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Reminds me of an early aviation disappointment. My best friend’s father was going to fly us to San Luis Obispo for a tour of the college. The flight was scrubbed “due to winds”. At the time, it was tough for me to reconcile, given that he was a former F-15 test pilot. Thinking back on that today, I have so much respect for making that safety decision. Also makes me wonder how crazy the weather must have been... yikes

  • @CanardBoulevard
    @CanardBoulevard ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Probably a year after I did my commercial multi add-on (with instrument), I was flying a 172 out of Gaithersburg MD to Elon, NC - taking a friend back to school in NC while I headed on to Georgia. This was in 1993, so no on-board NEXRAD - all we had was DUATS and FSS, and what the briefer could describe to you on the phone. I launched into hard IMC and flew like that almost the entire way. I encountered intermittent rain enroute, which had NOT been forecast. ATC helped me maneuver around some embedded cells which I could not see - I just had to trust them. I broke out on the approach at about 1000 AGL, only to see a small cell sitting right on top of the airport. I went missed, held for five minutes, then went back for another try. By then the cell had moved off the airport and I got in. Another cell moved in right after I landed, so I quickly tied the plane down. This was to be a fuel stop/passenger dropoff on the way to Georgia, but once I got inside, called FSS and realized what the weather was doing, I knew I was done flying for the day. I ended up being stuck in North Carolina for the next two days, as the "storm system" turned into near hurricane force winds that ripped through the south.
    Looking back, if I had the weather resources available that we have today, along with the wisdom of 30 years of flying, I would NEVER have launched that initial flight. My personal minimums are a lot more conservative now today than they were as a young 20-something-year-old freshly minted pilot.

  • @greggreene4138
    @greggreene4138 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    18 for 18, I had just gotten my PPL many years ago, my friend wanted to take pictures of New Years Eve fireworks.
    The temp/dewpoint was 1 deg spread. I could see halos around ground lighting. That was it…a no go. On the drive home it became nearly 0/0 over most of the State of Florida and Georgia. The only way out was the Bahamas!
    I’m so glad I got my instrument rating a few years later. Even with an instrument rating it would still be a no go! But, having the instrument rating I would not have even left the house because you become much more aware of weather forecasts and the big weather picture.

  • @Hsv1ddr155
    @Hsv1ddr155 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    18 FM 18.... great video.... Safety is non-negotiable ...

  • @brpleasants
    @brpleasants ปีที่แล้ว

    18/18. Jason, truer words have never been spoken. With over 40 years in the industry flying IFR the one thing I’ve learned is, I’m always going to learn something flying in general but specifically IFR flying. Keep up the good work!

  • @philipclarke6575
    @philipclarke6575 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    18/18. Totally agree. IMC and freezing level below LSALT is an instant no go for me. Cancelled a trip last year when this was the case.

  • @5neub
    @5neub ปีที่แล้ว

    (Almost) 18 for 18. Love to hear you say this Jason ! Many times we feel that just because we have the Instrument ticket we are obligated to fly through solid IMC. This is a skill that needs to be developed and respected. Similar to 4WD, doesn’t give you a free pass in a blizzard.

  • @40bigguy40
    @40bigguy40 ปีที่แล้ว

    best video yet of the 31 day challenge. One year IFR rating and think of these things all the time and still learning!

  • @loupitou06fl
    @loupitou06fl ปีที่แล้ว +3

    18 for 18. My CFII moto was that foggles are cheap but weather is real. IFR or vfr, always avoid weather - these are small planes.

  • @Smiley-747
    @Smiley-747 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once as a PVT pilot I was flying when storms got between me and destination. I landed but not a general aviation field. It was private and I was told to leave. So I took off and got into heavy rain and only by grace of God did I land safely at my alternate. My take away was- know how to navigate VFR around your planned route and get an instrument rating.

  • @Nicer_after_flying
    @Nicer_after_flying ปีที่แล้ว

    18:18 great video. I am getting ready to take my instrument checkride. I was taught early, an instrument rating is to get you out of trouble, not into trouble.

  • @josealfredosemerenepicon3041
    @josealfredosemerenepicon3041 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is probably one of the best refelxions I hav heard in aviation teaching. Congratulations. Keep it up.

  • @gregorywhite4573
    @gregorywhite4573 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a fairly high time dual rated flyer. I have nearly 1000 hrs combat time. And NOTHING has ever frightened me more Than weather. Never ever play with it…..great video brother!

  • @richardhaile9720
    @richardhaile9720 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18....working on my IFR rating right now. Loved today's lesson!!

  • @MattyCrayon
    @MattyCrayon ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video. Im studying the Instrument theory right now. One of my instructors said, once I get an instrument rating, don't go using it to fly in IMC right away. Practice IFR flying in VMC for a while first. Going straight into wanting to fly in cloud is a quick recipe for trouble.

  • @redpanda9716
    @redpanda9716 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18! Roger That ! Thanks Jason !

  • @origamiXcore
    @origamiXcore ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18! Thanks for keeing all our safety in mind

  • @jamesclark6936
    @jamesclark6936 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18! I am working on the instrument rating right now. Thank you for the great videos Jason!! Keep up the good work!!

  • @frankdaniels8077
    @frankdaniels8077 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18! Great stuff as always Jason.

  • @ranjrog
    @ranjrog ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18! Great topic. Learning to navigate actual weather is certainly a learning process for me!

  • @gtmako
    @gtmako ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18 I couldn't agree more with you about using my IFR when it comes to weather. Mother nature always wins, so I don't fly or find away around it

  • @daveeverhart7720
    @daveeverhart7720 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18, thank you Jason!

  • @J_B_2u
    @J_B_2u ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18! Great information again!

  • @astralbody
    @astralbody ปีที่แล้ว

    18/18! Perfect timing, I have begun studying instrument as I wait for my checkride!

  • @nickmalacaro
    @nickmalacaro ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18, Great content, Thanks Jason

  • @stevenrynski1107
    @stevenrynski1107 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18! Thanks for the videos!

  • @toddherman380
    @toddherman380 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely Jason! I know the max demonstrated crosswind in a G6 SR22 but my personal minimums are well below that. When I want to test my personal limits, I always do it with a CSIP on board.

  • @e.l.walker5050
    @e.l.walker5050 ปีที่แล้ว

    TennesseeTurkey is 18 for 18 and loving every minute!

  • @rynmac
    @rynmac ปีที่แล้ว

    18 climbing 31
    I see a lot of posts in different groups where the pilot or student is questioning their no-go decision asking if they should have gone. We have to recognize that mindset for what it is. It’s allowing external pressure to compromise safety. You’re PIC and if you are not comfortable, that’s a no-go. No one should convince you otherwise.

  • @JD.stinson108
    @JD.stinson108 ปีที่แล้ว

    You keep hitting topics that I think are not thought about enough great video!!
    18/18

  • @RustyPilotClub
    @RustyPilotClub ปีที่แล้ว

    18/18 and I'm now caught up. Did my homework and have been enjoying these videos. :-)

  • @vconnor
    @vconnor ปีที่แล้ว

    18/4/18 N177VC. Been IFR rated for 4 years now. Best thing is it absolutely makes you a better and safer pilot. The number 1 thing flying IFR teaches you is weather can be fast and dangerous. Don’t push it. My personal minimum is 1,000 ceiling. I’ve been in the clouds a bunch but most of it was flying above the clouds and then descending for approach. You really learn to brief the weather and be aware of what’s out there. Always be ahead of the plane. I fully brief my destination approach so nothing is a surprise. Brief the airport diagram for your most likely taxi instructions. Did unusual attitude and spin training with Patty Wagstaff. Great learning. Will repeat at two years. Respect the weather and enjoy your trip. You DONT have to be anywhere that bad. A great weather truism is “I’d rather be on the ground wishing I was up, than up there wishing I was on the ground!

  • @sgCessna172
    @sgCessna172 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18! I am in training for my instrument rating and you gave great points to put into practice.

  • @montywhitman5159
    @montywhitman5159 ปีที่แล้ว

    18x18 JS. Great points! I am about to begin instrument training and even with cert I’m not interested in flying through weather unless for some reason I’m forced to. Thanks again Jason

  • @robertwilliams7626
    @robertwilliams7626 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    18 for 18! I love starting my day with these. Thank you MZeroA team!

  • @MHill-w3x
    @MHill-w3x ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No go with a notam for "Mountain obscuration".

  • @SpokesAndWings
    @SpokesAndWings ปีที่แล้ว +2

    18 for 18. Good topic! Have had my IFR ticket for about a year and a half. Still really conservative and make a lot of "no go" decisions. Had a flight this fall where weather built more than anticipated. Flight went well, but margin was thinner than I would have liked. Learned some good lessons on the flight.

  • @skyfall2442
    @skyfall2442 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18. As a pilot, I am constantly eager to acquire any additional knowledge regarding weather.

  • @mpgeraghty
    @mpgeraghty ปีที่แล้ว

    18 4 18 - Another factor to consider while being a safe pilot

  • @robc6883
    @robc6883 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 of 18. Thanks!! Good points to remember.

  • @Ed.Taylor
    @Ed.Taylor ปีที่แล้ว +2

    18 for 18!
    Great Emphasis!!
    Decision Making is so Key in Life & Aviation! Really appreciate you keeping this on the forefront of our minds Sir! Excellent Series!! Soon to be Instrument Rated!
    ET

  • @adnansalihagic
    @adnansalihagic ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18
    Great video and very important advice. Once, I take off before morning fog dissapeared, and have found in the cloud, with TMG without attitude indicator. It was scary and bad decision.

  • @EagleSynthetics
    @EagleSynthetics ปีที่แล้ว

    I started flight training a couple years ago. When I flew my 3 leg solo X-country; the weather was forecasted to be a good day for a cross country with a few clouds, and I used flight following during the duration of the flight. During my third leg, I visually see outside 50 miles ahead that fog started to form at the destination airport. I checked the weather via ForeFlight, KEUG ATIS, and ATC, so I decided to divert back to S12 where I originally took off from to land while the weather was still good over there. I was flying in the Pacific Northwest, so weather conditions can change rapidly. Thanks for the content Jason, and I’m happy to tell you that I aspire to get my instrument rating one day.

  • @philvasquez4542
    @philvasquez4542 ปีที่แล้ว

    18-4-18! Great information to keep thinking about! 👍🏼

  • @frankloy2701
    @frankloy2701 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18! Thanks for a great, informative, though provoking video.

  • @raycintron8466
    @raycintron8466 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 of 18. Great video topic Jason

  • @bombsaway6340
    @bombsaway6340 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 of 18, great topic!

  • @davismcpherson401
    @davismcpherson401 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 of 18! Im still waiting for my ppl check-ride but flying out of KBJC in the Denver area has been a great experience with weather and had taught me to trust myself. There have been multiple times where a nice VFR day turns into IFR very quickly. Another great video Jason, thank you!

  • @robertcary435
    @robertcary435 ปีที่แล้ว

    18/18, you are spot on!

  • @S1Double
    @S1Double ปีที่แล้ว

    18-18. Good conversation

  • @philvasquez4542
    @philvasquez4542 ปีที่แล้ว

    18-4-18! Decision making! Yes!👍🏼

  • @onetime5640
    @onetime5640 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like good old common sense to me , thanks !

  • @bobclarie
    @bobclarie ปีที่แล้ว

    18/18. Thanks again Jason for always keeping us learning . . . and safe . . . Bob

  • @BS-wp2ze
    @BS-wp2ze ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18. Rusty Pilot here. Always enjoy your videos. Very informative and keeps me learning. Thank you for all your efforts to make everyone a safer pilot.

  • @justinbeltramo359
    @justinbeltramo359 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    18/18. I have had 4 no-gos already this month due to weather. Even though I am flying a FIKI aircraft, I still will avoid ice. You just never know the intensity you may encounter. It is interesting how some pilots I know will treat their weather brief as the law, but they seem to complain the loudest when the civilian weather gets it wrong. All weather forecasts are probability based and should be treated as such. Things change.

  • @alansprowls7179
    @alansprowls7179 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alan in Tallahassee. 18 for 18. Have made many "no-go" decisions on a sunny day but winds are high and exceed crosswind component.

  • @nathanwildthorn6919
    @nathanwildthorn6919 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18. Loving your series; you speak from your _heart_ ,as well as your mind. Thank you, and bless you. 😊

  • @jeffdavis4876
    @jeffdavis4876 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18. I have often cancelled flights due to low clouds in the forecast. I am just starting my instrument training, so this video was very timely for me.

  • @markfacer2296
    @markfacer2296 ปีที่แล้ว

    When working with Instrument students, I always recommend flying in actual IMC when we can do it SAFELY, i.e. clouds above our personal mins, good visibility below etc.

  • @martygenska8117
    @martygenska8117 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, eighteen for eighteen. Love this stuff. The only reason I'm working on my instrument certificate now is to be a better/safer pilot and to be prepared for weather; never to feel I can just fly no matter what.

  • @larrybeckley8978
    @larrybeckley8978 ปีที่แล้ว

    18/18 yes it’s so important to have a collective knowledge for go or No go decision’s Thanks for this valuable video Jason.

  • @greggmeyers6463
    @greggmeyers6463 ปีที่แล้ว

    18/18 I'm not IFR rated a good lesson on staying clear of bad weather and setting good personal minimums. Thanks Sir!

  • @sergiusabb6737
    @sergiusabb6737 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18 !!!!👍👍👍

  • @wildkiwi1295
    @wildkiwi1295 ปีที่แล้ว

    18/18! Your realistic scenarios are very helpful- ADM is key.

  • @cjay131996
    @cjay131996 ปีที่แล้ว

    18/18 the content is absolutely amazing ! Looking forward to the live stream

  • @johnjohnson6061
    @johnjohnson6061 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lost a member of our flight club who had a brand new instrument rating. He had low hours in a light twin he was renting to take his sister and friend out to visit other family on the east coast. Before he started back to home base his other sister called and told him how terrible the weather was at home with poor visibility very heavy gusty winds and snow. He assured her they would be fine, he called it a go. His flight instructor texted him and let him know the weather was a no go in his opinion. I do not know if he got the text but in my friend's judgement it was a go and he almost made it except for his approach to the home airport with a controlled flight into terrain. Three fatalities and a family and community left behind in shock.

  • @stiboyuct
    @stiboyuct ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18 had to catch up, loving the content.

  • @jaguevarae
    @jaguevarae ปีที่แล้ว

    18/18 and I’m loving it

  • @GVSolo
    @GVSolo ปีที่แล้ว

    18 of 18 done. 👍 A few things I would add here. Minimums are not just about VFR/SVFR or the IFR procedure minimums, it also involves other elements. No matter if it's VMC or IMC you always have to determine and take into account one's personal minimums, the aircraft's performance minimums, and even the passengers minimums. Also, when it comes to weather we have to remember that the information that we get on our electronic display systems is not real-time. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the information that we receivr on our displays is old raging from five minutes to one hour. So never rely solely on that. Use AWOS/ASOS/ATIS when available by any connectivity means you have to them. Always have a plan B. All in all, as one very wise instructor told me, "it's better to be on the ground wishing to be flying than flying and wishing to be on the ground."

  • @tomgjestvang356
    @tomgjestvang356 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18. Loving the feedback comments on personal IMC experiences, backed by good decision making and respect for personal minimums

  • @cynthiaglenn4087
    @cynthiaglenn4087 ปีที่แล้ว

    18/18 Important information to think about.

  • @michaelj.mcmurray540
    @michaelj.mcmurray540 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18: My last IFR flight was for my check ride back in 2014, before I ever even owned a cell phone....haha. However, in the next week or so I am expecting my avionics guy to send an email he is ready to install my upgrades. I know that once I get the new avionics I am going to have to take some time to get to know the functionality of them. After that I am going ot have to go up with a CFII to get proficient before I think about doing an IPC. Being able to watch videos like this that explain good aeronautical decision making in the IMC environment are valuable to my aviation mastery journey.

  • @Chris-hq7nl
    @Chris-hq7nl ปีที่แล้ว

    I got my IR and I have just a few hours of actual IMC, but I've never actually used the privileges. Even after getting the ticket my actual time on an instrument flight plan has been with a CFII for practice. I admit I'm conservative in my weather planning, but for flying single engine I sort of view the IR as a learning experience to get better acquainted with flying, and as a tool that I can use to get out of an airport that is socked in by clouds to a nearby area that is VFR, or if unexpected clouds move in that weren't predicted. I don't know that I trust myself or the aircraft enough to launch a single engine light airplane into hard IMC for a XC flight in those conditions with just myself at the controls.

  • @AaronH1223
    @AaronH1223 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18! Should be starting my instrument training this summer!

  • @aldohattonduran5227
    @aldohattonduran5227 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still going strong 💪🏼🛩️🛫💪🏼✌🏼

  • @GaryScavella
    @GaryScavella ปีที่แล้ว

    18/18, awesome advice

  • @mpgeraghty
    @mpgeraghty ปีที่แล้ว

    18 4 18 - Always be another day to fly if you make the right weather call.

  • @philipwethington7965
    @philipwethington7965 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18 When Thunderstorms are moving in I will have my aircraft Radio on listening to Pilots, asking ATC to deviate around the storms so they won't have to fly through them. It also helps me to know how the storms are moving in and I can tell where they are and if we will be in the worst of it. I like it when the planes fly over me or in my area flying around the storms.

  • @joelinnebur
    @joelinnebur ปีที่แล้ว

    Even after 20+ years in professional aviation flying “very capable” turboprops and narrow-body jets, flying in weather must be treated with respect. Every little nugget you learn while flying in weather can add a level of confidence, which can be good….and bad. Those little “wins” when you flew through yellow on the radar and it was smooth as glass can lead you to becoming over-confident the next time you see yellow. Self de-briefing your decisions after an IMC flight can greatly help you see where your decision making was, and maybe where you could’ve chosen an alternative plan. Learn learn learn! FYI, when I’m flying GA, my preference is breaking out around 1500 feet…and that’s if the weather along the route isn’t low as well.

  • @anthonyfazio4743
    @anthonyfazio4743 ปีที่แล้ว

    I try to make a decision to go into a cloud on two things, how big is the buildup, if any, and if I can see what weather is on the other side. If I can't see what's on the other side, I will try to deviate if the the cloud looks like its building rapidly, or if there is an obvious route around the weather in front of me.

  • @clintgault3078
    @clintgault3078 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18, great advice. As a newer private pilot I don’t want to just be a fair weather flyer. Also, I don’t ever want to jeopardize my family or friends with poor judgment either. So, I’ll always error on the side of caution to the beat of my ability. Thanks for another great video.

  • @rhino991
    @rhino991 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video!!! 18 for 18.

  • @jerrylatvala8099
    @jerrylatvala8099 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18. Having radar in the aircraft is wonderful compared to not having it. All I would add is looking at it is more valuable than sweeps of the radar.

  • @jiteanomi4092
    @jiteanomi4092 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18. True that Jason, better safe than sorry.

  • @mikeholley8307
    @mikeholley8307 ปีที่แล้ว

    I m caught up

  • @kurtreber9813
    @kurtreber9813 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 4 18!
    Did my first solo cross-country today!

  • @jereberhard5529
    @jereberhard5529 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18! I agree with Jason... after getting my instrument rating, I will not launch into things that I previously had departed into VFR! "Fly below a LOW fly above a HIGH"... meaning fly south of a LOW and north of a HIGH in North America... I don't know about the rest of the world.

  • @billfoster8643
    @billfoster8643 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18 in 2024!

  • @georgewestfall9246
    @georgewestfall9246 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 / 18. As a sport pilot living in Kansas non forecasted storms can pop up pretty quick. Maybe a discussion about diverting around a storm and or to an alternate landing site . Also what the wind current s can be effecting you in clear air near the storm.

  • @4alphazulu
    @4alphazulu ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18, Jason! Still a VFR pilot. I really want to get my IFR ticket, I just have to find the cycles to do the training.

  • @KCAviatrix675
    @KCAviatrix675 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18! IFR can be a harsh mistress; some days it’s pretty and others it’ll screw you over. Also, I try to avoid flying in precipitation as a general rule; I don’t want to take unnecessary risks in a light aircraft.

  • @bobsimmons6655
    @bobsimmons6655 ปีที่แล้ว

    18/18, yes sir!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @jimbiller9682
    @jimbiller9682 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find that I pay much closer attention to weather in flight planning,now that I have my IFR. I guess it as if you are just looking at a swimming hole you don’t think much about what’s in it, but if you are going swimming, you will want know all about it that water,and what’s in it.

  • @c.amarisrobinson4037
    @c.amarisrobinson4037 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18! 🎉

  • @rong4248
    @rong4248 ปีที่แล้ว

    18 of 18 Life in the air depends on ADM

  • @aaronvonderhaar2362
    @aaronvonderhaar2362 ปีที่แล้ว

    eighteen for eighteen !! Aspiring IFR pilot in Ohio so I will definitely keep this video to rewatch

  • @mattj65816
    @mattj65816 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s a lot of fun to blast off when the ceilings are 800-1,000 and it’s warm enough that ice is out of the question and it’s gloomy but there is no real energy in the atmosphere and nothing frontal is imminent. But yeah, once it gets more dynamic than that, I hang it up and go a different day. Nothing I do in an airplane is that important.

  • @gergisKhan
    @gergisKhan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    18/18. My personal minimums are 1000' or pattern altitude. I want to see the field from a sufficient height in case something bad happens and I need to maneuver without worrying about popping back into the clouds (which happened to me once on an approach to a 600' minimum).

  • @xcfly
    @xcfly ปีที่แล้ว

    18 for 18. Just starting my ifr training.

  • @tejloro
    @tejloro ปีที่แล้ว

    18/18. During my instrument training, I finally got some actual IMC and it suddenly felt like I didn't know anything.... SOOOOO different that foggles... Even a little scary at first...