Got my Arc for a solid 6 months now and I am still blown away when watching some movies with how cinema like the sound is. The only thing you are missing without a sub is the sofa shaking bass. Everything above that still has bass so good, it is actually hard to believe, since it's just a long tube in front of the TV. I will most likely get the sub at some point but man it sure is not necessary one bit. Even in our big living room with high ceilings the bass and sound fills the room. Still mad in love with this thing haha
I bought the arc some weeks ago and combined it last week with a Sub Mini. In my opinion it provides more than enough bass for our living room that's not so large.
I got a Sonos Arc about 2 months ago…it’s coupled with my Sub Gen 2 and a pair of Play 1’s and the sound is SUPERB….I am not disappointed and totally recommend it to anyone willing to pay the price. 👍🏾👍🏾
About a month ago, I got the sub gen3 after having the arc about a year, and it was worth every penny. The sound is amazing. I have the entire kit now. Bought it a piece at a time and loving every minute of it. Definitely recommend the sonos. You do get what you pay for with them.
If i can get my sub to work again it would be great! Its connected but will not put out any bass at all! I have tried everything except hardwiring it up.
@@sinistai.z.3622 yep, ive done everything i have found on the internet. To include removing it from the app...unplugging it, powering down router, power it back up, then plugging in the sub and readding it to the app. Still no bass.
I have a small living room. I got a sony a80j 77" paired with a sonos arc and sub gen 3. Its surround and bass is phenomenal. I get compliments from people.
How small? Mine is 13x13 ft ; been curious if my planned setup is overkill for this small of a space. Just ordered a pair of era 300, planning to get Arc and Sub 3 next month. Currently using homepods, so it’ll definitely be a big upgrade - but I wonder if some of the Atmos effect will be lost in a smallish room.
If I today own the sonos Playbar and 2 1st gen one and want to add a bit more power , should I exchange the bar or buy a sub or go for 2 fives gen 2 (less expensive)? Any advice?
@@AzizIzgin I think it really depends on your room set-up and your mix % of movies vs music vs TV? My cable service channels seem to be stereo most of the time and the rear surrounds don't get a lot of work. I have to set the surrounds to full in the Sonos app to get the rears working for music. The sub seems to always work with all kinds of audio from stereo to Atmos. The sub feels like it pulling the bass away from the soundbar/surrounds so they can just focus on the mids/highs for noticeably richer sounding response. The sub will give you very good base and that "rumble" feeling during action movies.
As a Sonos Eco System owner of: Arc,Sub,Sonos1x2. I have something to say. The app actually isn't easy to use for non techy owners. I had the system for a year now, and I realized their major flaw... That is the connectivity. This is their best feature; yet it can be the owner's nightmare. Let me explain. The entire system is integrated into the app via your WI-FI network. Router shoots out new Internet Protocol (IP) Address along with DNS, DHCP when it restarts. Let's say that your area had a local power or internet outage or you accidentally plugged out the ARC, or Sub, or anything connected to your Home Theatre System... Your nightmare begins. You now have a NEW Internet Protocol Address. The App won't detect your systems since your DHCP has been resetted. Be prepared to uninstall the App, factory reset the system, reconnect the installation that takes around 30min - 45 min to configure. You try to reconnect your system into the app, and now comes hell. it will not detect your surrounds or fail to connect wi-fi. WTF is going on? Prepare to unlink the TV WI-FI and retype the new password. Restart the phone, and disconnect from wi-fi, and reconnect by typing new password. Now you're ready. But wait... every saved data on your eco system is now gone. Alexa needs to be reconfigured too. It is hell. For price of the entire eco system, go with Sennheiser Ambeo Max. Seriously. Easier to use, and better quality of sound for same price of entire eco 5.1 set. The Pro of this system is that the Atmos is amazing; however, for the amount of problem it can encounter if your internet is down, it is not worth it. Wired Connection is necessary as an option for people that don't want internet system.
I’ve had a playbar in my living room for 7 years and a couple 1 SLs around the house. Just upgraded to an arc+sub gen3. These speakers really are incredible and worth the high cost. Planning on buying a couple more 1 SLs for rears now.
@@thomas.8 the arc + sub combo is really good. Definitely recommend. I still haven’t gotten around to adding SL1s yet but the sound is great and was worth the money for me.
You dont need e-arc/HMDI 2.1 to get atmos. You will still get atmos over standard HDMI Arc but it will be compressed. Lossless Atmos is available only via e-arc, but if you're using streaming services it doesnt make a huge difference since that will be coded as the lossy Dolby Digital Plus
Unfortunately lots of TVs made before 2018 won’t pass through Atmos even through a standard ARC connection. But yes, you’re right… if your TV can pass through Atmos with ARC and you only watch Atmos content through streaming services then there’s no need to upgrade your TV to one with eARC.
I've had an arc for 6 months prior to this I had a Home theater based around an aventage Yamaha receiver. Since I live in an apartment I had to downsize. I just added the sub mini and 2 1 sl. The sound is phenomenal for the size of the system and I'm so glad I purchased it. I tried the sub without the rears for a few days and it certainly made a big improvement with bass. Next I'll get a couple of other speakers for the kitchen and bedroom..
Thanks for the informative and enjoyable video. Thanks to you and others in the TH-cam community, SONOS heard the complaints of Arc owners with regard to how a recent update demolished the sound signature of that speaker when paired with their sub and Trueplay run. Thankfully, the issue was resolved following 3 months of poor sound. Thanks again for your fine work!!
Thanks Arnie. Glad you liked the video 😊 Yeah it was about time Sonos sorted out their issues. Good to see the big companies finally listening to us little guys 😁
Sonos Arc SL + two Sonos One SL + Sonos Gen 3 Subwoofer. I’m 100% happy with this great system. Every once in a while I think about “upgrading”. But, I’m sticking with my current system for the foreseeable future. I have a separate two channel stereo system utilizing some components almost fifty years old! System sounds great, and I enjoy listening to music. My point is enjoy your music and videos - don’t drive yourself crazy chasing the latest and greatest.
@@slimerone Yup! Then you can re-use the One SL separately in two different rooms or together as a stereo pair. You even have the option of getting the Ray of Beam to add surround sound to second TV.
I got the full setup during the 20% off sale. Gonna test it out for a few weeks. My only dislikes are 1. Not having an hdmi out 2. No upward firing rear speaker option 3. I have a lot of Blu-rays with DTS-X that's not supported & 4. This was $1700 😢
I was thinking of getting this bundle too but I'm glad I didn't as I feel like overall it's a great system but it's lacking a lot of features that I want. Some that that you mentioned already but I just feel like it's really built for the future at this time. No hdmi 2.1 in and bluetooth which means you have to have wifi to use this device. Imagine if all your speakers needed wifi to work. I might be pulling the trigger on the Q990B instead as it has most of the things I want for now under $1,000 for BF. You could even get the system for under $750 if you pair it up with with samsung tv! That's crazy for such a system that is very comparable to Sonos at more then half the cost possibly. The system that I really want is the Sony A7000 paired with the SW5 and up firing rears but it's like $2,300 total or so which is totally insane at this time.
Perfect review, and nice to see a fellow Aussie, hopefully they were Australian prices shown but it doesn't really matter given I know from your review the Sonos atmos system without Bluetooth, and no HDMI input plus I'm an Android user and only just ordered the Samsung Galaxy Tab S8+
We consume all of our media via a PC using Plex, and PC monitors and projectors. These devices don’t have Arc HDMI. What do you recommend we do? We also have one monitor hooked up to a Firestick that we would like Sonos connects to.
Bought mine in 2020. Sound bar, sub, two S1. Have loved 😍 every moment listening to it, and watching movies. Last month, upgraded to a SECOND subwoofer, two SONOS 5. Hooked everything to a new 120 inch short throw projector. Now, I will never got to the IMAX theater again. 7.1 arc surround!!! He'll yea! 😆
I literally just dropped off the samsung 990b. YES EVERYONE THE DISCONNECT ISSUE IS FOR REAL. I thought for $800 discount, the issues plaguing the 990b would be overblown. FROM DAY ONE disconnect, after firmware MORE disconnect, after new router NO LEFT REAR SPEAKER. No way am i living with that. sonos is next best.
Hey Josh, I have a Samsung s95 65" and looking to add a soundbar, I've been considering the Samsung hw-q800b (bar and sub) and the Sonos arc (bar only - with idea of adding mini down the line). The q-symphony and the price are two things the Samsung has. I heard the Sonos arc in-store and it was fantastic, I can currently get one at 30% discount. Curious if you have any insights?
Then get a Samsung Q950A or whatever the newest model is. I sold my Sonos ARC, Sub and Ones for a Q950A and it’s imo it’s way better, especially when playing UHD Blu Ray
It doesn’t matter that Sonos doesn’t do DTSX. Few TVs pass DTS via eARC. If you want DTS you have to plug your player into the bar which obviously Sonos can’t do. For Anyone who wants to watch Blu-ray’s, an ARC is a poor choice.
@@marksullivan3424 which is why I went Sony HTA9. I was interested in Klipsch until they too announced they were cheaping out on DTS. Inexcusable for a high end company to release this as a “cinema” soundbar.
I like the surround sound with the one SL, but I would love surrounds with up firing speakers. Also, as far as things that are not that great that a lot of reviewers don't mention is that Sonos simulated height channels are terrible when compared to it's competition, and channel separation is also lacking
@@mizzle299same here , but they are working on that apparently. I think Sony's HT - A9 is a great idea but not in the long run. Software will be outdated plus sony's aftersale is terrible. Hopefully Sonos will make a game changer on the surround front.
Perfectly answered my question. I currently run a traditional 7.2.4 Atmos Surround. Pushing close to 2K Watts of power. Total cost is less than $3K. I have purchased most of my equipment during sales and discounts. I have everything paired to a 100” projector. I do have a Vizio 5.1 soundbar system and I am quite satisfied with its power and clarity output. I was considering a Sonos setup per a recommendation, but for its cost, I believe other options are better. The less expensive brands and models deliver a lot of bang for your money.
When will Sonos be coming out with the Rear, Upward Firing Drivers for their surround sound. And do you think Sonos will come out with Bipolar/Dipolar midrange 7.1 speakers
I was debating between a Sonos ARC setup, a Sony HT-A9 (with the larger sub) or the Samsung Q990c. I eventually went with the Samsung, the main reason the price, I was able to purchase the Q990c (which includes the surround speakers and the sub) for $706 from Samsung with a student discount. To get the Sony with the Sub id have to pay almost 4 times as much and about 3 time's as much with the Sonos. They all have there pro's and cons', but for $700 for a complete system that is a steal. My subwoofer on my main system costs more than that lol.
Hi josh, i am planning to get one SL . So where should i place them, on table behind my couch, or hang them at height behind the couch or hang them sideways
I did a video on where to place your rear speakers... th-cam.com/video/86FwExaUqLc/w-d-xo.html It does a better job than me explaining it over text. Hope it helps you.
I’m interested in the arc and sub but for the rears I need to have in ceiling as I’m in the midst of construction. How will this setup work with the Sonos in ceiling speakers? What wires do I need to run for the arc to tv? I’ll also have 5x sonos amos for other zones in my house. Will I need to run this setup through an amp?
I have a LG OLED 77C1 (Arc/dual Gen 3 subs/Fives) in a large main room and 55C1 (Beam Gen 2/Gen 3 sub/One SL) in medium office. They both sound fantastic because the systems fits the room sizes. The advantage with Sonos is being able to mix/match speakers in the theater group depending on budget and desired listening profile. The Arc "Might" come out with a Arc Gen v2 in the next 6-12 months; but, the Beam Gen 2 hasn't been talked about for a Gen v3 upgrade. I think I would lean towards the Beam Gen 2, Sub mini, and Era 100 for the 77" TV. You would have the option to move the Beam into another room and an option to purchased the Arc Gen v2 1-2 years down the road.
No worries Tyrone. Happy to help. Regarding the Sonos Fives, check out this video where I outline my thoughts: th-cam.com/video/sTgXC6KRb_I/w-d-xo.html
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If I use an audio extractor and send audio to the Sonos ARC + Gen3 and at the same time to an amp PA via L/R RAC, will this screw up the overall experience or is it simply a matter of balancing the volume? This would be quite a large room and/or Hall. Thanks
Hi, Great video as always! I’m looking for a soundbar with the budget of $1000. What would you recommend? A stand alone Arc or something else that comes with a sub? Thank you
@@davidthanos Thanks for the suggestion! I was actually confused between q930b, Klipsch Cinema 800 (5.1) and Stand Alone Sonos Arc. The reason of considering Sonos is their integration with the App and long term reliability.
I’m soon to get a Arc/Sub/Rear combo and am curious about your recommendation to upgrade wifi router. I’m still using an old wifi 5 router, Netgear Nighthawk 1750. I’ve yet to have a good reason to upgrade, since its had rock solid stability and never have any dropped connections. Though all I use with it wirelessly are a MBP, couple iPads, Series X or Switch console, plus an Apple TV via cat5.. I guess I’ll soon find out if it works with my Sonos and remains stable. Any other reasons I might consider upgrading?
If you’re getting good speeds throughout your whole house and are happy with its performance then I’d get the Arc and see if it still performs well. I’m a big fan of the Netgear nighthawk routers and have setup 100’s of them over the years for customers without many issues. If it’s working well for you now then I’m sure it’ll work well with Sonos.
@@archwaytech definitely had to get a new router. Sonos just didn’t like my old beat up nighthawk with missing antenna. Was unexpected, since all my other devices have always connected just fine - maybe it was past the # device connection limit. Anyhow it was smooth sailing after picking up a new wifi6 nighthawk router and an Arc. I’m thrilled with it so far, Such amazing sound quality. Music sounds even better and with as much clarity as my $1500 professional monitors.
The Playbar was out for 7 years before the ARC was released and the ARC's only been out for 2 so I'd go for it. Even if a new one was to come out and you wanted to upgrade, Sonos products hold their value really well.
Good sound, only thing I find is it is quiet on speech, sometimes I can’t hear it clearly over a lot of cinema music / other sounds. So I have to turn it up, but then the explosions etc are then too loud.
Hi Josh, I have a Bose Soundtouch 300 and Acoustimass 300. I've been considering the Sonos Arc + Sub combo without the rears. Do you think this is a worthwhile upgrade? We mainly use for streaming services. No physical media. My tv passes DD+ over HDMI ARC, so I'm guessing I should get compressed Atmos? Your thoughts would be appreciated. Cheers
Hey William. I think that’ll be a massive upgrade. The ARC is a much more powerful Soundbar over the Bose Soundtouch 300 and the Sonos sub should be much better than the acoustimass 300. You should get better dialogue and range in sound. If you can I highly recommend you test it out in store for you to be the judge. Regarding your TV playing Atmos… check this website for whether it can pass through Atmos, as my 2018 Samsung can send DD+ to the arc but not Atmos: www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.php?subaction=showfull&id=1608282747 Use the search bar at the top of the page and chuck in your tv model number. It should come up. Hope this helps. 😊 Cheers man.
@@archwaytech Thanks Josh, I appreciate your reply. I checked FlatpannelsHD, and it says DD+ yes, but not Atmos. Just to clarify, I presume that is talking about Dolby True HD Atmos? Am I correct in thinking I should still get DD+ Lossy Atmos from streaming services? At present I have a Firestick 4K Max and in the audiovisual settings it says it detects Atmos capable equipment which I'm guessing is the lossy Atmos capability from DD+ checked my TV's data sheet and this is what it says for audio decoding WMA/MPEG-1/MPEG-2/MP3/Dolby Digital/Dolby Digital Plus/ LPCM/ADPCM/ apt-X/DTS/DTS- HD/AA Thanks for your help, want to make sure I make the right decision. Cheers!
Just making sure, if I wanted to plug a gaming console into the Arc, Can I use this? Also, will the sound of the console come through the Arc? just making sure I have everything correct. Thanks
As long as your TV supports HDMI ARC or eARC (naming is unrelated to the Sonos Arc, HDMI ARC/eARC is a feature of TVs that’s used by many sound bars) you just need to plug your console into your TV and the should go from the console, through the TV (but not the TV speakers) and to the sound bar.
Good morning Sir 😊 My Sony tv not supported Dolby Atmos , but I have firetv stick 4k Max and Sonos arc soundbar ,soundbar have only one EARC HDMI Port. How can set-up for Dolby Atmos effect. Or use 2.1 HDMI splitter. Please suggest sir
Orei hd 935 is better replacement for hdfury arcana as it costs half an I had 3 hdmi in for those who have arc only tvs. It works without any issues compare to buggy HDFURY Arcana
Hello sir,where do you buy the OREI?Is it really noticeable the sound difference compare to dd+?dolby atmos really sounds much better even on netflix?or it has to be with bluray discs?Thank you
Wich is better the Samsung HW Q990 or the Sonos arc with sub and rear speakers since the Samsung I can pick up for 1000€ maybe even lower in my region and the Sonos will cost me almost 2000€ for sure. So is it really worth double it’s price ? Because from my view they are both premium soundbars with there own pros and cons but the price difference just doesn’t make sense for me at all 😅 BTW I have a C2 83 Inch wich soundbar pairs best with this tv in your opinion ?
I returned my Arc with OneXL surround and my Gen 2 Bass Module for the Samsung Q990B. BEST decision I ever made. Sonos has really nice big sounds but lacked with detailed sounds and it would go from being loud then when they talk it would be low, I was always playing with the volume and sound adjustments. Samsung on the other hand has great big sounds too and when they talk I did not have to play with the volume. The sound and base with the Samsung is amazing. I’ve gotten nothing but compliments.
@@PyroJakeGaming I’ve gotten two disconnecting Q990B’s from Samsung who kept disconnecting from mainly the sub and also sometimes from the rear speakers. I tried literally everything from everyone out there wich told me how to fix them but nothing worked at all. I know even a guy who returned his 990B’s like 4 times allready. So I also returned them and gotten some Hi fi speakers with a amplifier. Soundbars don’t even come close to this sound quality I swear it, and this is even without the sub or the rear speakers and center speaker(They can ofcourse also be added though I will do that in the future)
If you can get a Q900B unit that doesn't have disconnecting problems then it's a great option for half the price. Also check out this video for more of my thoughts: th-cam.com/video/qlcTREHsvC0/w-d-xo.html
@@archwaytech Nah a amplifier with speakers is much better I went with from Argon and Denon. And that is even without adding a sub or rear speakers or center speaker wich will come in the future though but a soundbar doesn’t even come close to the sound quality speakers with a amplifier give
If you don't mind paying extra then you could always get a Sonos roam which does have bluetooth. You can then use the roam as a bluetooth link to the rest of your sonos system when grouped together.
What about beam gen 2 and sub mini vs arc and sub gen 3 for smaller rooms 28 square meters and 1,5 -2 m away from the tv and with low ceiling. Will the arc combo be an overkill
Every aspect of the ARC and sub gen 3 combo is better than the beam with sub mini. Even in a small room you'll get much better performance. I used to use my ARC setup in a similar sized room and it was awesome!
@@giacintorenta7579 if you're only attempting to get Atmos height effects, I wouldn't recommend. Unless you want to move your couch closer. If you would like a better/more full audio experience with slightly better channel separation it is worth considering, but not sure it would be worth the price.
I don’t think the lack of bluetooth is a con, connecting through wifi is so much better, I never use the bluetooth option on my speakers, through wifi a call or watching something in social media does really interrupt the music and doesn’t output your phone call to your guests😂 (coming from someone who used Android)
I don't think bluetooth can produce the same audio quality as wi-fi? I have several Sonos speakers around the house and it is so easy to access the system from multiple devices (his/her iphones, ipad, or dell computer).
Samsung Q990B could be had for under $1,000 rn or as low as $750 or so if paired with a Samsung tv. That's too good to pass up vs the Sonos at $1,900+.
Sennheiser Ambeo or even others, compared to: Sonos ARC with a sub? Sonos ARC with a pair of Sonos 5? ARC with mini sub and a pair of 5s? Audio dynamics: highs, mids and lows? does adding a sub and or Sonos 5s allow the Sonos ARC to be noticeably, cleaner and more dynamic since some of the work goes to other speakers? Or is it just the Sonos software and hardware design that stops it from sounding as good as say a quality pair of studio monitors, like say Yamaha HS8? Room size is 13ft x 19ft and 8ft high I do not listen to rap and do not like too much bass. I listen to all rock, Country Western, Bluegrass,new age, bag pipes, pipe organ, punk, piano, a cappella, metal, I hate the stuff they pass off as music mostly since all the auto tune and gridding of noise/music, or since about late 90s. Most pop "music" today is just cheap and easy to make noise. Country today is crap! Thank you!
@@archwaytech Could you please let me know what would be the best alternate for a Sonos arc? I thought of going with Sony HT a7000 but many people are saying that it has connection issues. So which sound bar should I choose with Dolby Atmos and DTSX? I am really confused please help me out.
Great system with the biggest flaw. iPhone sucks. Give trueplay to Android. People who don't want to buy into shit phone Fandom should also be able to access this feature.
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Got my Arc for a solid 6 months now and I am still blown away when watching some movies with how cinema like the sound is. The only thing you are missing without a sub is the sofa shaking bass. Everything above that still has bass so good, it is actually hard to believe, since it's just a long tube in front of the TV. I will most likely get the sub at some point but man it sure is not necessary one bit. Even in our big living room with high ceilings the bass and sound fills the room. Still mad in love with this thing haha
man I got the arc recently with the sub and I already had the sonos ones and it is absolutely amazing
Bose is king
@@daviddave8266really? I’m here because I’m trashing my Bose and looking for something else. I was really un happy with it.
I bought the arc some weeks ago and combined it last week with a Sub Mini. In my opinion it provides more than enough bass for our living room that's not so large.
Do yk how loud the Sonos arc goes at max volume in decibels? Is it as loud as a theater?
I got a Sonos Arc about 2 months ago…it’s coupled with my Sub Gen 2 and a pair of Play 1’s and the sound is SUPERB….I am not disappointed and totally recommend it to anyone willing to pay the price. 👍🏾👍🏾
About a month ago, I got the sub gen3 after having the arc about a year, and it was worth every penny. The sound is amazing. I have the entire kit now. Bought it a piece at a time and loving every minute of it. Definitely recommend the sonos. You do get what you pay for with them.
If i can get my sub to work again it would be great! Its connected but will not put out any bass at all! I have tried everything except hardwiring it up.
@Donald C Did you check your app and made sure it's on in the app? There is a section to turn the sub on and off in the app.
@@sinistai.z.3622 yep, ive done everything i have found on the internet. To include removing it from the app...unplugging it, powering down router, power it back up, then plugging in the sub and readding it to the app. Still no bass.
Please remember to recalibrate TruPlay after updating to 14.18. The improvement in sound quality is tremendous
In the first few minutes you already show youre all into the sonos universe
I have a small living room. I got a sony a80j 77" paired with a sonos arc and sub gen 3. Its surround and bass is phenomenal. I get compliments from people.
How small? Mine is 13x13 ft ; been curious if my planned setup is overkill for this small of a space. Just ordered a pair of era 300, planning to get Arc and Sub 3 next month. Currently using homepods, so it’ll definitely be a big upgrade - but I wonder if some of the Atmos effect will be lost in a smallish room.
Went all in on the Sonos this year. Just added the Fives as surrounds. Expensive setup, but I'm pretty happy.
If I today own the sonos Playbar and 2 1st gen one and want to add a bit more power , should I exchange the bar or buy a sub or go for 2 fives gen 2 (less expensive)?
Any advice?
@@AzizIzgin I think it really depends on your room set-up and your mix % of movies vs music vs TV? My cable service channels seem to be stereo most of the time and the rear surrounds don't get a lot of work. I have to set the surrounds to full in the Sonos app to get the rears working for music. The sub seems to always work with all kinds of audio from stereo to Atmos. The sub feels like it pulling the bass away from the soundbar/surrounds so they can just focus on the mids/highs for noticeably richer sounding response. The sub will give you very good base and that "rumble" feeling during action movies.
The deal breaker for me is all that money you spend and no upfiring rears and no hdmi in. But I do like the way it sounds.
Well you should be happy that era 300s solve that issue.
As a Sonos Eco System owner of: Arc,Sub,Sonos1x2. I have something to say. The app actually isn't easy to use for non techy owners. I had the system for a year now, and I realized their major flaw... That is the connectivity. This is their best feature; yet it can be the owner's nightmare. Let me explain. The entire system is integrated into the app via your WI-FI network. Router shoots out new Internet Protocol (IP) Address along with DNS, DHCP when it restarts. Let's say that your area had a local power or internet outage or you accidentally plugged out the ARC, or Sub, or anything connected to your Home Theatre System... Your nightmare begins. You now have a NEW Internet Protocol Address. The App won't detect your systems since your DHCP has been resetted. Be prepared to uninstall the App, factory reset the system, reconnect the installation that takes around 30min - 45 min to configure. You try to reconnect your system into the app, and now comes hell. it will not detect your surrounds or fail to connect wi-fi. WTF is going on? Prepare to unlink the TV WI-FI and retype the new password. Restart the phone, and disconnect from wi-fi, and reconnect by typing new password. Now you're ready. But wait... every saved data on your eco system is now gone. Alexa needs to be reconfigured too. It is hell. For price of the entire eco system, go with Sennheiser Ambeo Max. Seriously. Easier to use, and better quality of sound for same price of entire eco 5.1 set. The Pro of this system is that the Atmos is amazing; however, for the amount of problem it can encounter if your internet is down, it is not worth it. Wired Connection is necessary as an option for people that don't want internet system.
Yes! This happened to me and was super annoying
I’ve had a playbar in my living room for 7 years and a couple 1 SLs around the house. Just upgraded to an arc+sub gen3. These speakers really are incredible and worth the high cost. Planning on buying a couple more 1 SLs for rears now.
Did you upgrade? I have the same setup as you and really want the arc but not sure if it's a big enough upgrade from the Playbar
@@thomas.8 the arc + sub combo is really good. Definitely recommend. I still haven’t gotten around to adding SL1s yet but the sound is great and was worth the money for me.
You dont need e-arc/HMDI 2.1 to get atmos. You will still get atmos over standard HDMI Arc but it will be compressed. Lossless Atmos is available only via e-arc, but if you're using streaming services it doesnt make a huge difference since that will be coded as the lossy Dolby Digital Plus
Unfortunately lots of TVs made before 2018 won’t pass through Atmos even through a standard ARC connection. But yes, you’re right… if your TV can pass through Atmos with ARC and you only watch Atmos content through streaming services then there’s no need to upgrade your TV to one with eARC.
I've had an arc for 6 months prior to this I had a Home theater based around an aventage Yamaha receiver. Since I live in an apartment I had to downsize. I just added the sub mini and 2 1 sl. The sound is phenomenal for the size of the system and I'm so glad I purchased it. I tried the sub without the rears for a few days and it certainly made a big improvement with bass. Next I'll get a couple of other speakers for the kitchen and bedroom..
Try the samsung q990a b or whatever...kill it for 100s cheaper. Well proven online on TH-cam
I was wondering if you know if it is possible to expand to other zones like you were saying with this system?
@@barbarafogle3541 like add more speakers in other rooms? Yes. Pretty sure you can for music anyways
Thanks for the informative and enjoyable video. Thanks to you and others in the TH-cam community, SONOS heard the complaints of Arc owners with regard to how a recent update demolished the sound signature of that speaker when paired with their sub and Trueplay run. Thankfully, the issue was resolved following 3 months of poor sound. Thanks again for your fine work!!
Thanks Arnie. Glad you liked the video 😊 Yeah it was about time Sonos sorted out their issues. Good to see the big companies finally listening to us little guys 😁
Sonos Arc SL + two Sonos One SL + Sonos Gen 3 Subwoofer. I’m 100% happy with this great system. Every once in a while I think about “upgrading”. But, I’m sticking with my current system for the foreseeable future. I have a separate two channel stereo system utilizing some components almost fifty years old! System sounds great, and I enjoy listening to music. My point is enjoy your music and videos - don’t drive yourself crazy chasing the latest and greatest.
(2) Era 300s to replace the One SLs would be your next upgrade from what I’ve read
@@slimerone Yup! Then you can re-use the One SL separately in two different rooms or together as a stereo pair. You even have the option of getting the Ray of Beam to add surround sound to second TV.
I got the full setup during the 20% off sale. Gonna test it out for a few weeks. My only dislikes are 1. Not having an hdmi out 2. No upward firing rear speaker option 3. I have a lot of Blu-rays with DTS-X that's not supported & 4. This was $1700 😢
I was thinking of getting this bundle too but I'm glad I didn't as I feel like overall it's a great system but it's lacking a lot of features that I want. Some that that you mentioned already but I just feel like it's really built for the future at this time. No hdmi 2.1 in and bluetooth which means you have to have wifi to use this device. Imagine if all your speakers needed wifi to work. I might be pulling the trigger on the Q990B instead as it has most of the things I want for now under $1,000 for BF. You could even get the system for under $750 if you pair it up with with samsung tv! That's crazy for such a system that is very comparable to Sonos at more then half the cost possibly. The system that I really want is the Sony A7000 paired with the SW5 and up firing rears but it's like $2,300 total or so which is totally insane at this time.
I’m about to pull the trigger on the same system at that price tomorrow - bit skeptical on the system working on wifi which is a double edged sword
@@volcalstone buy what you can afford
you forgot no bluetooth support.
Hey, would you say it’s still worth in 2024?
Ohh this dude Josh does great research And his experience as an speaker TV installer is very informative
Hello there great video! any idea when the Sonos Arc gen 2 could appear?
Also how do you think the Sonos Area 300 complements or supplements the Arc?
Great video. Just curious, does a spinning ceiling fan affect the dolby atmos effect?
Perfect review, and nice to see a fellow Aussie, hopefully they were Australian prices shown but it doesn't really matter given I know from your review the Sonos atmos system without Bluetooth, and no HDMI input plus I'm an Android user and only just ordered the Samsung Galaxy Tab S8+
We consume all of our media via a PC using Plex, and PC monitors and projectors. These devices don’t have Arc HDMI. What do you recommend we do? We also have one monitor hooked up to a Firestick that we would like Sonos connects to.
Bought mine in 2020. Sound bar, sub, two S1. Have loved 😍 every moment listening to it, and watching movies. Last month, upgraded to a SECOND subwoofer, two SONOS 5. Hooked everything to a new 120 inch short throw projector. Now, I will never got to the IMAX theater again. 7.1 arc surround!!! He'll yea! 😆
Sonos does not support 7.1 , only 5.1
@@ComboSlicer 2 sonos fives, 2 subwoofers, 2 SL1, and a soundbar. Got all of them functioning. So I Am calling it that. Didn't say they did.
@@ComboSlicer also got sonos move hooked up u my bedroom play to. So 8.1? 😆 🤣
I literally just dropped off the samsung 990b. YES EVERYONE THE DISCONNECT ISSUE IS FOR REAL. I thought for $800 discount, the issues plaguing the 990b would be overblown. FROM DAY ONE disconnect, after firmware MORE disconnect, after new router NO LEFT REAR SPEAKER. No way am i living with that. sonos is next best.
Hey Josh, I have a Samsung s95 65" and looking to add a soundbar, I've been considering the Samsung hw-q800b (bar and sub) and the Sonos arc (bar only - with idea of adding mini down the line).
The q-symphony and the price are two things the Samsung has. I heard the Sonos arc in-store and it was fantastic, I can currently get one at 30% discount. Curious if you have any insights?
Fully agree with all you point. Sub is must have.
The only thing I want from Sonos is DTSX and up firing back speakers.
Then get a Samsung Q950A or whatever the newest model is. I sold my Sonos ARC, Sub and Ones for a Q950A and it’s imo it’s way better, especially when playing UHD Blu Ray
It doesn’t matter that Sonos doesn’t do DTSX. Few TVs pass DTS via eARC. If you want DTS you have to plug your player into the bar which obviously Sonos can’t do. For Anyone who wants to watch Blu-ray’s, an ARC is a poor choice.
@@oldsnwbrdr Thats a good point. My Samsung TV does not support DTS Passthrough, but the Q950A does so my blu ray player is plugged into the bar.
@@marksullivan3424 which is why I went Sony HTA9. I was interested in Klipsch until they too announced they were cheaping out on DTS. Inexcusable for a high end company to release this as a “cinema” soundbar.
@@oldsnwbrdr The Xbox one / series x upscales dtshd to Dolby atmos..
Thank you for posting this helpful video!
I'd love to hear the arc vs a pair of the new Apple HomePods.
Not 🚫 A Comparison, The Name "Sonos" Speaks Audible By Jus Pronunciation, The Meek Apple Homepod Is Jus Mediocre "Supply & Demand".
same, i’m debating between the arc and a stereo pair of the new homepods
Look at the bearded teachers comparison
Don’t bother!
I hope in 2023 Sonos comes out with true atmos surround speakers. In a lot of reviews i read that the current surround sound isn't that great.
I like the surround sound with the one SL, but I would love surrounds with up firing speakers.
Also, as far as things that are not that great that a lot of reviewers don't mention is that Sonos simulated height channels are terrible when compared to it's competition, and channel separation is also lacking
@@mizzle299same here , but they are working on that apparently. I think Sony's HT - A9 is a great idea but not in the long run. Software will be outdated plus sony's aftersale is terrible. Hopefully Sonos will make a game changer on the surround front.
Perfectly answered my question. I currently run a traditional 7.2.4 Atmos Surround. Pushing close to 2K Watts of power. Total cost is less than $3K. I have purchased most of my equipment during sales and discounts. I have everything paired to a 100” projector. I do have a Vizio 5.1 soundbar system and I am quite satisfied with its power and clarity output. I was considering a Sonos setup per a recommendation, but for its cost, I believe other options are better. The less expensive brands and models deliver a lot of bang for your money.
Is it worth buying the sub, when I do a demo in a shop , I could not find a huge difference, don't know they had put the bass in low
Are you at the dry cleaners?
When will Sonos be coming out with the Rear, Upward Firing Drivers for their surround sound.
And do you think Sonos will come out with Bipolar/Dipolar midrange 7.1 speakers
I was debating between a Sonos ARC setup, a Sony HT-A9 (with the larger sub) or the Samsung Q990c. I eventually went with the Samsung, the main reason the price, I was able to purchase the Q990c (which includes the surround speakers and the sub) for $706 from Samsung with a student discount. To get the Sony with the Sub id have to pay almost 4 times as much and about 3 time's as much with the Sonos. They all have there pro's and cons', but for $700 for a complete system that is a steal. My subwoofer on my main system costs more than that lol.
Hi josh, i am planning to get one SL . So where should i place them, on table behind my couch, or hang them at height behind the couch or hang them sideways
I did a video on where to place your rear speakers... th-cam.com/video/86FwExaUqLc/w-d-xo.html
It does a better job than me explaining it over text. Hope it helps you.
@@archwaytech thanks josh
I’m interested in the arc and sub but for the rears I need to have in ceiling as I’m in the midst of construction. How will this setup work with the Sonos in ceiling speakers? What wires do I need to run for the arc to tv? I’ll also have 5x sonos amos for other zones in my house. Will I need to run this setup through an amp?
Love my Sonos arc. But, I like my Bose 700 for music much better.
Have you tried the Bluesound soundbar?
Just got an Arc and 2 SL. Having issue connecting both for rear sound. Don't know what is going? My Bose never us any problems.
For medium size room and 77 inch TV which option will be logical? Sonos Arc + Sub mini or Sonos Beam Gen 2 + Sub mini + two Sonos Era 100 ?
I have a LG OLED 77C1 (Arc/dual Gen 3 subs/Fives) in a large main room and 55C1 (Beam Gen 2/Gen 3 sub/One SL) in medium office. They both sound fantastic because the systems fits the room sizes. The advantage with Sonos is being able to mix/match speakers in the theater group depending on budget and desired listening profile. The Arc "Might" come out with a Arc Gen v2 in the next 6-12 months; but, the Beam Gen 2 hasn't been talked about for a Gen v3 upgrade. I think I would lean towards the Beam Gen 2, Sub mini, and Era 100 for the 77" TV. You would have the option to move the Beam into another room and an option to purchased the Arc Gen v2 1-2 years down the road.
@@mrgold3591 Thanks for respond
I have one question for you. I am thinking of upgrading the Surrounds to Sonos Five. What do you thing? Thx for the great information...
No worries Tyrone. Happy to help. Regarding the Sonos Fives, check out this video where I outline my thoughts: th-cam.com/video/sTgXC6KRb_I/w-d-xo.html
If I use an audio extractor and send audio to the Sonos ARC + Gen3 and at the same time to an amp PA via L/R RAC, will this screw up the overall experience or is it simply a matter of balancing the volume? This would be quite a large room and/or Hall. Thanks
Hi, Great video as always! I’m looking for a soundbar with the budget of $1000. What would you recommend? A stand alone Arc or something else that comes with a sub?
Thank you
Thanks Darshil. What TV do you have?
@@archwaytech I have TCL 6 Series. It does have EARC port.
If I'm in your shoes, go for the Samsung 930b. It's on sale now at best buy
@@davidthanos Thanks for the suggestion! I was actually confused between q930b, Klipsch Cinema 800 (5.1) and Stand Alone Sonos Arc. The reason of considering Sonos is their integration with the App and long term reliability.
@DARSHIL PATEL youre welcome that's another plus for the arc
I’m soon to get a Arc/Sub/Rear combo and am curious about your recommendation to upgrade wifi router. I’m still using an old wifi 5 router, Netgear Nighthawk 1750. I’ve yet to have a good reason to upgrade, since its had rock solid stability and never have any dropped connections. Though all I use with it wirelessly are a MBP, couple iPads, Series X or Switch console, plus an Apple TV via cat5..
I guess I’ll soon find out if it works with my Sonos and remains stable. Any other reasons I might consider upgrading?
If you’re getting good speeds throughout your whole house and are happy with its performance then I’d get the Arc and see if it still performs well. I’m a big fan of the Netgear nighthawk routers and have setup 100’s of them over the years for customers without many issues. If it’s working well for you now then I’m sure it’ll work well with Sonos.
@@archwaytech definitely had to get a new router. Sonos just didn’t like my old beat up nighthawk with missing antenna. Was unexpected, since all my other devices have always connected just fine - maybe it was past the # device connection limit.
Anyhow it was smooth sailing after picking up a new wifi6 nighthawk router and an Arc. I’m thrilled with it so far, Such amazing sound quality. Music sounds even better and with as much clarity as my $1500 professional monitors.
I’m just curious to see if it’s worth buying now or will there be a new Sonos arc successor in the near future?
If there is a successor it won't be much better
The Playbar was out for 7 years before the ARC was released and the ARC's only been out for 2 so I'd go for it. Even if a new one was to come out and you wanted to upgrade, Sonos products hold their value really well.
Was thinking the same
Do I need a TV with HDMI Earc with Sonos Arc? Or any tv with arc is ok?
Good sound, only thing I find is it is quiet on speech, sometimes I can’t hear it clearly over a lot of cinema music / other sounds. So I have to turn it up, but then the explosions etc are then too loud.
I’ve recently read that putting it on Night Mode helps with that.
@@TCapo1185 tried that setting, I have it on constantly, some programs are worse than others.
Hi Josh, I have a Bose Soundtouch 300 and Acoustimass 300. I've been considering the Sonos Arc + Sub combo without the rears. Do you think this is a worthwhile upgrade? We mainly use for streaming services. No physical media. My tv passes DD+ over HDMI ARC, so I'm guessing I should get compressed Atmos? Your thoughts would be appreciated. Cheers
Hey William. I think that’ll be a massive upgrade. The ARC is a much more powerful Soundbar over the Bose Soundtouch 300 and the Sonos sub should be much better than the acoustimass 300. You should get better dialogue and range in sound. If you can I highly recommend you test it out in store for you to be the judge.
Regarding your TV playing Atmos… check this website for whether it can pass through Atmos, as my 2018 Samsung can send DD+ to the arc but not Atmos:
www.flatpanelshd.com/focus.php?subaction=showfull&id=1608282747
Use the search bar at the top of the page and chuck in your tv model number. It should come up.
Hope this helps. 😊 Cheers man.
@@archwaytech Thanks Josh, I appreciate your reply. I checked FlatpannelsHD, and it says DD+ yes, but not Atmos. Just to clarify, I presume that is talking about Dolby True HD Atmos? Am I correct in thinking I should still get DD+ Lossy Atmos from streaming services? At present I have a Firestick 4K Max and in the audiovisual settings it says it detects Atmos capable equipment which I'm guessing is the lossy Atmos capability from DD+
checked my TV's data sheet and this is what it says for audio decoding WMA/MPEG-1/MPEG-2/MP3/Dolby Digital/Dolby Digital Plus/ LPCM/ADPCM/ apt-X/DTS/DTS-
HD/AA
Thanks for your help, want to make sure I make the right decision. Cheers!
Just making sure, if I wanted to plug a gaming console into the Arc, Can I use this?
Also, will the sound of the console come through the Arc? just making sure I have everything correct.
Thanks
As long as your TV supports HDMI ARC or eARC (naming is unrelated to the Sonos Arc, HDMI ARC/eARC is a feature of TVs that’s used by many sound bars) you just need to plug your console into your TV and the should go from the console, through the TV (but not the TV speakers) and to the sound bar.
Good morning Sir 😊
My Sony tv not supported Dolby Atmos , but I have firetv stick 4k Max and Sonos arc soundbar ,soundbar have only one EARC HDMI Port. How can set-up for Dolby Atmos effect. Or use 2.1 HDMI splitter. Please suggest sir
Orei hd 935 is better replacement for hdfury arcana as it costs half an I had 3 hdmi in for those who have arc only tvs. It works without any issues compare to buggy HDFURY Arcana
Hello sir,where do you buy the OREI?Is it really noticeable the sound difference compare to dd+?dolby atmos really sounds much better even on netflix?or it has to be with bluray discs?Thank you
@@juanvalera7272 This device doesnt boost any sound. It just extract the sound output to your sonos arc from the content.
Wich is better the Samsung HW Q990 or the Sonos arc with sub and rear speakers since the Samsung I can pick up for 1000€ maybe even lower in my region and the Sonos will cost me almost 2000€ for sure. So is it really worth double it’s price ? Because from my view they are both premium soundbars with there own pros and cons but the price difference just doesn’t make sense for me at all 😅 BTW I have a C2 83 Inch wich soundbar pairs best with this tv in your opinion ?
I returned my Arc with OneXL surround and my Gen 2 Bass Module for the Samsung Q990B. BEST decision I ever made. Sonos has really nice big sounds but lacked with detailed sounds and it would go from being loud then when they talk it would be low, I was always playing with the volume and sound adjustments. Samsung on the other hand has great big sounds too and when they talk I did not have to play with the volume. The sound and base with the Samsung is amazing. I’ve gotten nothing but compliments.
@@PyroJakeGaming I’ve gotten two disconnecting Q990B’s from Samsung who kept disconnecting from mainly the sub and also sometimes from the rear speakers. I tried literally everything from everyone out there wich told me how to fix them but nothing worked at all. I know even a guy who returned his 990B’s like 4 times allready. So I also returned them and gotten some Hi fi speakers with a amplifier. Soundbars don’t even come close to this sound quality I swear it, and this is even without the sub or the rear speakers and center speaker(They can ofcourse also be added though I will do that in the future)
@@keesdekoning4878
Hi Kees, could you please suggest few amplifiers system?
Which ones you bought?
Thank you...!
If you can get a Q900B unit that doesn't have disconnecting problems then it's a great option for half the price. Also check out this video for more of my thoughts: th-cam.com/video/qlcTREHsvC0/w-d-xo.html
@@archwaytech Nah a amplifier with speakers is much better I went with from Argon and Denon. And that is even without adding a sub or rear speakers or center speaker wich will come in the future though but a soundbar doesn’t even come close to the sound quality speakers with a amplifier give
The bluetooth and extra HDMI slots are a deal breaker for me, I don't have Apple.
Yeah fair enough. They both should have been added. It's a missed opportunity.
@@archwaytech I'd happy pay bit extra for it.
If you don't mind paying extra then you could always get a Sonos roam which does have bluetooth. You can then use the roam as a bluetooth link to the rest of your sonos system when grouped together.
@@chicheng1941 Thx
I am just wondering if the whole cinema TV system is good to listen to music via Spotify or a Bluetooth turntable? Thank you.
Spotify sounds great and is the way I send most of my music to the ARC. Unfortunately there’s no Bluetooth receiver in the bar to connect a turntable.
@@archwaytech thank you! Is there any way to plus an external Bluetooth receiver device to use a BT turntable?
Great video. Thanks .
Cheers Adam 😊
So all of these need to charge to work or be plugged in?
Plugged in.
What about beam gen 2 and sub mini vs arc and sub gen 3 for smaller rooms 28 square meters and 1,5 -2 m away from the tv and with low ceiling. Will the arc combo be an overkill
Every aspect of the ARC and sub gen 3 combo is better than the beam with sub mini. Even in a small room you'll get much better performance. I used to use my ARC setup in a similar sized room and it was awesome!
You can control the volume with your tv remote.
Correct
I have a Playbar, Sub and 2 Play:3 as surrounds. Is it worth upgrading to Arc for Dolby Atmos?
Do you sit or plan on sitting within 6ft of the arc? If the answer is no, you will not hear any Atmos height effects from the arc anyway.
@@mizzle299 about 8ft
@@giacintorenta7579 if you're only attempting to get Atmos height effects, I wouldn't recommend. Unless you want to move your couch closer. If you would like a better/more full audio experience with slightly better channel separation it is worth considering, but not sure it would be worth the price.
I really would wanne buy a sonos setup but i got an android would that be a huge issue or not really?
If you can get ahold of an iPhone to do the tuning and you don’t mind using the S2 app to play music then it’s worth it 😊
Install it above the tv
Didn't they add DTS (compressed) support with the latest firmware?
Yeah, Sonos can do standard DTS but not DTS X, which is what many people are after to get the most from their blu rays.
Just have your Blu-ray player output in PCM. Problem solved.
Was trying hard to understand what you were saying.
I don’t think the lack of bluetooth is a con, connecting through wifi is so much better, I never use the bluetooth option on my speakers, through wifi a call or watching something in social media does really interrupt the music and doesn’t output your phone call to your guests😂 (coming from someone who used Android)
I don't think bluetooth can produce the same audio quality as wi-fi? I have several Sonos speakers around the house and it is so easy to access the system from multiple devices (his/her iphones, ipad, or dell computer).
Please review the Senheisser Ambeo ♡
That review is in progress. Will be out soon. Cheers
@@archwaytech wooow, that's big! Thank you
Samsung Q990B could be had for under $1,000 rn or as low as $750 or so if paired with a Samsung tv. That's too good to pass up vs the Sonos at $1,900+.
That’s a great deal! The Samsung is definitely better value for the money so long as it doesn’t keep disconnecting.
@@archwaytech I heard the disconnection issue could be fixed as it comes down to your wifi signal at home. You need to make some changes that's all.
Where is this bar priced at this amount? They are priced at 1400-1500$...
Samsung q990c or b is not under $1000 their $1300 plus the tax 🤦♂️
The sonos arc by its self is $800
I'm an Android owner and own an Arc🤷♂️🤷♂️ what a stupid thing to say 🙃
Sennheiser Ambeo or even others, compared to: Sonos ARC with a sub? Sonos ARC with a pair of Sonos 5? ARC with mini sub and a pair of 5s? Audio dynamics: highs, mids and lows?
does adding a sub and or Sonos 5s allow the Sonos ARC to be noticeably, cleaner and more dynamic since some of the work goes to other speakers? Or is it just the Sonos software and hardware design that stops it from sounding as good as say a quality pair of studio monitors, like say Yamaha HS8?
Room size is 13ft x 19ft and 8ft high I do not listen to rap and do not like too much bass. I listen to all rock, Country Western, Bluegrass,new age, bag pipes, pipe organ, punk, piano, a cappella, metal, I hate the stuff they pass off as music mostly since all the auto tune and gridding of noise/music, or since about late 90s. Most pop "music" today is just cheap and easy to make noise. Country today is crap!
Thank you!
the fact sonmos can change profile for sound is a reason i wont be buying this product. dam.
Yeah fair enough. It was such a dumb move on their part. I think it’s turn a bunch of people off.
How about Sonos get their s**t together and allow all sonos speakers in a home theatre setup to be controlled by the TV remote!
Josh , get a shaving , like that you will be more credible!
I hate the trash sonos app
It’s good but overpriced. I would rather get better value for my money
Yeah, it’s expensive and if you’re wanting similar performance at a cheaper price there are plenty of other options that still sound great.
@@archwaytech which ones sir?
@@archwaytech
Could you please let me know what would be the best alternate for a Sonos arc?
I thought of going with Sony HT a7000 but many people are saying that it has connection issues. So which sound bar should I choose with Dolby Atmos and DTSX?
I am really confused please help me out.
Great system with the biggest flaw. iPhone sucks. Give trueplay to Android. People who don't want to buy into shit phone Fandom should also be able to access this feature.
Dude, you wasted time in this video on things other than sound bar. I learnt very little about the sound bar from this video!
🍻 great video
Thanks Bread 😀