RadioMaster TX16S with HALL Sensor Gimbals - Binding to an Airplane with AS3X and SAFE Select
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- In this video in the series featuring the RadioMaster TX16S, I am demonstrating how to bind a Horizon Hobby DSMX Airplane with AS3X and Safe Select flight stabilization technologies to the TX16S and set it up. I am also showing how to program a 2-position switch to turn SAFE Select on and off. I am using an E-flite F-16 Falcon 64mm EDF jet with AS3X and SAFE Select to demonstrate this process:
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The receiver on this model is DSMX/DSM2 compatible, so I set it up on the multiprotocol module using "DSM X 11ms" protocol. I chose the shorter time option (11ms rather than 22ms), since I expect this EDF jet to have relatively quick responses to control inputs.
And here is the link to the video showing how to create and set up a new model on the TX16S:
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As I continue adding my other models to this transmitter, I am going to continue making and uploading new videos to this series, so please stay tuned. Also, please let me know in the "Comments" if you would like me to cover any aspect or functionality of this transmitter.
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Man , few words : EXCELLENT presentation !!!! I know both Spektrum system and Radiomaster, all your presentation is clean and perfect !!! Safe ans As3x helps a lot and as you demonstrate you can switch OFF the Safe via a Switch.
Another great video, informative and well explained.
Thanks for the super informative video as usual.
Omg thank you for posting this video. Been looking for this for so long. Thank you and Thank you again
Fantastic teaching! Thank you.
Thanks for de video and explanation. This was really helpfull because I have a Horizon Hobby Maule M-7 with AS3x and SAFE to bind and setup.Thank You
Very good explained 👍
Great video. I was having some trouble getting the safe switch assignment selection to work and then realized I had pre-set the rates less than 100% for ailerons. I returned the rate switch to 100% and everything worked like a charm. Thank you for a very clear presentation!
WOW! Now thats amazing, keep up the good work props & Wheels! I love this channel, there is just so many rc planes that I would want to buy in the future and u gave me some information which ones to buy, so Thank you props & wheels!
Excellent video! Thank you for doing this.
Nicely detailed explanation.
Very very good. Clear, concise, and with working example. Perfect.
Superbly helpful and instructive, P&W.
Very well explained my friend you give Very confidence inspiring instructional experiences for this old newbie,, thanks for sharing and with my best wishes from Alan in the UK 🤗🤗🤗👍👍
This is my go to video for setting up a new model with a AS3X /Safe receiver.
Thank you so much for this video!
Thank you very much for your very good clarification... I have been searching in vain for this information for a very long time. Now finally I was able to bind my eflight f15 with BNF and the integrated receiver AR636A with AS3X to my radiomaster TX16S. Only in the setup instead of "MULTI / DSM / X 11ms" I could only Select "MULTI/DSM/AUTO" and it worked with it.
Thanks man, u helped me a lot !!!
Great instructional video.
You saved the day, realy good manual.
Thank you. This is a great instructional video. Your doing a better job explaining Safe than Spektrum.
Video very clear thanks
Brilliant dude!
A lot of people here they say that followed the instructions but didn’t work. It was the same for me. Today i finally made it with a Taranis X9D 2019 running EDGETX and 4-1 external module. For me it was needed to add the CH5 in the inputs too with the decided button assigned as source.
its possible that he had previously bound the receiver to a spektrum transmitter. I've read that can make a difference.
Thank you for this. There is so little information out there on this radio. It is an amazing radio but can be quite confusing if you're not familiar with the software.
Thank you very much for the video, you have answered every question about setting up my new Night Radian BNF to my Radiomaster TX16s I really didn't want to use my old Spektrum DX6 and now I don't have to. Great info and easy to understand fantastic job, you have a new subscriber.
Hi Keith. I am glad that the video was useful. Thank you for the sub. Cheers!
This is why I'm here.
Terrific, thanks. Why it has to be so complicated is beyond me, probably so that Spektrum sell more transmitters which are very easy to bind to their receivers, but surely it doesn’t have to be so awkward to bind to other makes, like my glorious Radiomaster.
Great video. Worked on F-15 Eagle thanks for the video. Make sure for those of you who removed landing gear that it isn’t reversed. Didn’t notice because took landing gear off for grass landings since rudder was reversed couldn’t set toggle switch. Switched it and works as per the video.
Good tutorial again. Thanks
this was a big help!
Very beautiful plane
There are very few videos that go thru both the binding process AND the actual setup of the channels on the transmitter using the RadioMaster TX16S. Nicely done!
Thank you! Glad it was helpful.
Great video!
You can put AS3X on Ch 5
Select your switch you want and it needs to be a 2 or 3 way, better 2 way
Asign the switch to OFF and ON
I will NEVER use SAFE
If you put AS3X instead of SAFE on ch 5 how would the plane know that?
Do you know long I have been looking for this information!?! Thank you so much for this, I can finally fly my Conscendo with my TX16S.
This was posted over a year ago, this comment in a month old, my question is why did you wait so long to watch this video?
@@kaptkrunchfpv google and TH-cam’s algorithms hid it from me. Lots of scrolling. 😝
Excellent, thank you.
Very nice plane, was interested in it for my 1st jet but I'm not sure I'm ready yet.
Waiting for the maiden, such a shame it doesn't have a rudder but it has steering.
Very nice with Tx16s
Dude thank you!!!!!!!
Thanks! This will help a ton with setting up for my new T-28 1.1m. Any advice on how to do this (AS3X and SAFE Select) setup on a UMX type plane since they do not have a bind plug (just got a Turbo Timber UMX)?
Superb step by step instruction on how to activate AS3X and Safe with a TX16S radio (4in1 module).
I would be interested if you or someone can say something about the signal quality? Spektrum DSMX receiver in conjunction with the Radiomaster TX16s radio?
How robust is the connection? Has anyone had any problems with this combo to date?
I would like to pair some (Spektrum based) fliers with the TX16s this way, but am cautious about signal quality for now.
Thanks in advance!
Now to complicate things. HOW DO WE GET INTO THE DSM FORWARD PROGRAMMING.(its under the sys button) lol. Then we can set gyro gains etc,etc. I am not sure if the firmware is setup for it yet. GREAT VIDEO!!. Once I can get into the dsm forward programming I am no longer handcuffed into buying expensive spectrum radios for all the new planes.Or forced to gut the recievers out of a bind and fly plane.
Thanks buddy
Just ordered the mkII, and plan on flying some spectrum bnf stuff. I am hoping that the procedures are still the same now that the radio is shipping with EdgeTX, then again I dont know OpenTX either. Thanks!
You are the best!
Just bought a Horizon Hobby Conschendo and I am having problems with the programing.
I was going to remove the spektrum RX because I never have liked Spektrum and give it to a friend!
I will now try this and see what happens, I had no luck with the UMX P51 VOODOO.
It just makes that noise, but all channels work, will this bind process work with the VOODOO?
Thank you so much for your videos, I have learned so much from you, you are awesome!!!
Did you get it working? Looking to buy a TX16S and UMX P51 soon
Awesome video! One thing I found different in my new EF UMX Pitts that I programmed on my Radiomaster Tx16S is that I set up the SAFE "SF" switch but I did NOT do the sticks down and in method and SAFE still works perfectly without doing that. Maybe the new bind and fly receivers don't need it???? Also, it's so cool that the Radiomaster can "discover" the telemetry and I can callout any cell or all cells of the lipo so I always know the exact battery voltage at all times. Does the AR630 full range receiver do that too?
I wasn't able to get the safe enabled in my Pitts. As3X is working. I did as in this video. Did you do anything different than in the video?
I agree with Peter D.
Assume video.
Great video , i guess it will be the same with the AR631 spektrum receiver and with edge tx 2.8 right?
Thank you for the informative video. I have the BNF Eflite Focke Wulf and I also fly it with the radiomaster TX16S. But I am modifying it for an FPV cockpit and I wan to use a radiomaster (frsky) receiver with more channels. At this moment, a servo plug is conntected to the Bind/Prog/SRXL2 connector of the spektrum AR637TA receiver. This plug is going to a bind plug and an Aux Bec that goes to the ESC. Do you have an idea what to do with this connector when flying with the frsky receiver? Leave it unplugged?
Thank u
Such a good Video! I am going to give it a go with my e-flite A-10!
Do you know If SAFE is in Channel 5 even if there are retracts?
I am not sure for airplanes with retracts, sorry. Yours may be on an different channel.
Hi, this is a great video, do u know if it works in other non BNF planes? I think it can be done with any plane as long as u are using spektrum with as3x and safe select rx. Please correct me if im wrong
Very helpful. Thanks!
Followed the video instructions for my RadioMaster. All worked well except the elevator. Could only get less than a 16th of an inch up or down. The servo was weighted at 100 per cent. Any ideas?
Where did you find out about the last step in binding SAFE mode to the switch, where you had to toggle the switch five times
Thank you for this! I need to buy you some ghormeh sabzi haha
I just binded the new rx on spektrum to open it then went back to tx16s binded on did exactly what u done but still can't switch as3x to safe any ideas
Reat tutorial . But i have a new Apprentice STOL 700 and i was able to bind it with all the SAFE a AS3x with out the step on removing the plug. However , i was not able to activate and deactivate the SAFE as you did , i did follow the joystick step down and center but it did not trigger any beeps. ANd the SAFE is always ON. Any advice? Thanks
Hi I've just done exactly like u demonstrated I have normal select but no safe what am I doing wrong I'm in ch5
What's the process if there's no bind plug? (on some smaller DSM BNF planes)
Hi thanks but my tx16s would not do it till i pulled the sticks down and out then all good
This is a great tutorial to turn SAFE on and off! Any idea on how to set up a 3 way switch to select the SAFE's Begginer, Intermediate, and Advanced flight modes too?
Did you have any luck with the 3 way switch set up? I’m tying to set mine up at the moment, and I’m a bit stuck! Cheers.
@@lilmeister44 Still no luck on my end either. Just using SAFE on or off...
I came here to try and find out the same thing. Hopefully someone that knows will post! Excellent video Props & Wheels! This is helpful, now just need to figure out if the 3 modes will work with this controller.
I made some progress on the safe flight modes! Actually worked out how to make 4 different safe + AS3X modes to work. I not sure I can post links to my video on the comment section without getting it flagged but if anyone is interested there is a video over on my channel on how I did it.
When safe is on how do u correct when surfaces are moving in the wrong direction
Great video! BTW, HorizonHobby has mentioned and confirmed numerous times that AS3X (their bullshit term for IMU-assisted gyro stabilization) CANNOT be disabled, even by them - it is baked into their BNF RX firmware (some of them, though they refuse to publish a list of what RXs are 'free' of AS3X).
I don’t have any trouble updating the firmware and reprogramming AR636’s. Only the first few planes that came with AR636A’s can’t be reprogrammed..
@@txkflier Just to clarify please? Does this mean only that AS3X can't be switched off - or that you can't use a AR636A with Open TX16? Many thanks!
@@paullepine4765 Spektrum locked the early AR636A’s so that they couldn’t be reprogrammed. If you have an AR636A that you can’t register, you can’t reprogram it. The AR636 can have up to 3 flight modes which can be gyro off, AS3X, heading hold, or SAFE mode. Firmware 1.x doesn’t support SAFE mode and 2.x doesn’t support heading hold. SAFE mode can be set for angle limits with self-leveling (beginner mode) or angle limits without self-leveling (intermediate mode).
@@paullepine4765 And yes, you can use an AR636/A/B with a TX16S. You should use TAER mode and don’t enable max throw. Spektrum receivers want to see 1520 uSec +/- 400 uSec at 100% travel. This is 1120-1920 uSec, but OpenTX/EdgeTX still shows 988-2012 uSec even though the 4-in-1 is set to DSM mode. I wish they’d fix it.
@@txkflier many thanks for the replies....I am new to spectrum, looking at buying a second hand eflite f15 with ar 636a pre fitted. As second hand I guess the receiver has been set up already so I'm hoping to use my open tx16 to bind with it? Fingers crossed and thanks once again
Does anybody know the reciever protocol for the Omp Hobby planes ?
Your video is great! but I think I am going to thrown-in-the-towel, I give up......I have a Conscendo evolution and I followed your steps to the letter....the last step with sticks in and down.....toggle switch 5 time...and no response from the plane....it appears that AS3X and Safe remain on full time. The receiver in the conscendo evo is the AR637TA and I believe the receiver in your video is the AR636. I dont know if that matters but please help...at the end of my hope so to speak LOL
Again, thanks so much for the time your giving back to the hobby its much appreciated
Hi Michael. Not all SAFEs are created equal. I think on some Horizon Hobby models, you cannot turn off SAFE. Is your airplane "SAFE Select" like mine?
I watched your video about setting up spectrum receiver on tx16s. The binding went find. When range checking the airplane I keep getting a message on the transmitter saying it’s loosing RF signal. The same thing has happened on two different Horizon planes. Do you have any suggestions.
Put your transmitter far away from 1 meter minimum of your Rx
Great video! Very informative! When I was trying to set up my new F-16 in the module status line, right below the DSM X line. I got the message “Module update needed”. Have you seen this and what do I need to do to clear or fix? Jim in CA
Means you need to update the module
downloads.multi-module.org/
Thanks Mike, and thank you for the link! I will do that in the morning. Bought the 80mm F-16. Anxious to get it in the air. Jim
I’d assume I can download through Companion, right?
@@jimworley7385 You can download the file to the folder FIRMWARE on your SD-Card and then unplug the radio form the USB connection ... after that go to SD card on the radio and into the folder FIRMWARE and run the file to update the MultiModule. ;o)
dont know if anyone has answered this, but i am new to this, finally had enough of spektrum transmitters. i know radiomaster is set up as AETR, do you need to change that for the channels, or can you just make a new model and bind?
Is there a way to setup a 3 way switch to control Safe, AE3X, and Off? Would be nice to have off in case you have trouble with the Gyro and need to get it on the ground.
Yes, but I don’t use an off position. I’ve never had a receiver come loose, fail, or be reversed..
Hello and thank you for your help! May I ask, is there a way to enable disable AS3X too? Thank you!
Yes, look at my comment aboveYou use Ch 5, select your switch and make an off and on
Thank you for the video. But you did not show when in safe mode, if the controle surfaces work correct. I have it happen to me, that on the radio all surfaces work correct, but in safe where reversed, ending in a crash
Not working with Jumper T16pro switch assignation dont understand
I just bought su27 with ar630 safe and it says u need program if needed to alter gyro can u adj this on Tx16s
There’s a new version of the Forward Programming LUA script and it appears to work..
What do I do if my trims go back to center when I switch from safe to as3x?
I suggest you to trim and center everything in the AS3X mode (no SAFE). Once you turn on SAFE while the plane is on level ground and not moving, it should be calibrated to keep the plane in straight and level flight. Let me know if this works for you.
Once you set up as3x, do you have to do it every flight?
I do not want "safe"
Thank you, hopw all is well with you
No. It is permanently engaged.
You can flick a switch to turn on/off SAFE but can you turn on/off AS3X ?
If you reprogram the receiver, you can turn AS3X off.
This is wersji on radio ERLS or 4in1 ?
Yes to ELRS!
You need a 6 Ch ELRS Rx.
You program your Rx and swap Ch5 to Ch9 then Ch5 acts as a normal Rx Ch5
You said your ailerons were channel one but Spektrum uses there.
Usually the channels go AETR. It worked like that on my TX16S.
The receiver wants channel 1 to be throttle. Otherwise, the throttle won’t failsafe to idle..
this model dont see on amazon damm
Limited bank angle in safe mode?
Correct.
👏👏👏…😜👌
Sooo I like these vids, but it seems like no one tell which of the 3 tx16s they have. 2500, SLRS or 4 in 1. Only been flying planes for about six month and had to call a radio master dealer to find out. Only one will work with these DSM/X planes from what I was told. 4in1. Hopefully this helps some people. Keep on flying
always 4in1 if it involves spektrum
I've just did exactly what you said I have new Ar630 as3x safe it binds OK but it's not in as3x nothing moves when I move plane any ideas
After you bind it try unplugging the model, removing the bind plug, and when you plug it back it you may have to advance the throttle past 25% for a nano second and then let the model sit for 5 seconds or so. it will start jittering.
@@kaptkrunchfpv yes did that too but still only normal servo initiation but I heard u need to bind with spektrum tx first if rx is new then it opens rx up for other tx but I can't afford to just buy tx just to fire rx up
@@stevejamelskyj5761 his procedure is for bnf receivers that are sold with an eflite plane. Different procedure would apply to seperately purchased forward programming ar630.
Hi…im new with radiomaster (openTX) and i just bought a night radian with a spektrum AR 631 receiver and i manage to bind it and works all fine but…im unable to assign a safe select switch…whatever i do i do it wrong because so far it didn’t work.
I watch many TH-camrs but no one worked fir me. Please can you help me posting a video on how to……?
it would be very helpfully to me. Thanks 🙏
P.s.
i tried your way in this video but it didn’t work…..and now I understood why…because it is possible to do it only with your receiver AR636B from the AR636 family which is the only one today (discontinued) able to be programmed (activation of safe and as3x) with a pc…now today all the spektrum receivers can be programmed only through spektrum tx forward programming. Doing so they keep the safe select and as3x technology working only for spektrum ‘supporters’. (Spend your money and buy a spektrum transmitter).
Thank you anyway to post your video but please specify that is working only with that kind of receiver…🙏
Hi, it was difficult for me to configure the switch on my Tx16S as well, but I finally succeeded. My receiver is a factory installed AR636T for the eflite Conscendo Evo
@@doand1257 hi…with edgetx and the lua script it has been able to enter the foward programming mode of the receiver and i unlocked the safe option and i easly assigned the switch and now i have it working on my night radian 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 edgetx is the best!!!
@@Bombana01 could you give me the link for downloading this Lua and unlock process ? thank you
AS3X = Gyro
Safe = Control of flight envelope
You can unlock the receiver if you want
Hi John. You mean for turning off AS3X as well? If so, I am curious to hear more. Thank you!
@@PropsWheels Hi yes I watched a video on TH-cam! Now I can't find it. 😒 All the receivers in the BNF are programed and locked to the models they are sold with.
I know how to shut ax3x off and also know how to unlock these locked recievers. I can help you if you want
What does unlocking the receiver do exactly?
Guess you not on here anymore
please
Hi Michael. Not all SAFEs are created equal. I think on some Horizon Hobby models, you cannot turn off SAFE. Is your airplane "SAFE Select" like mine?
Only good for 4 channel aircraft.
Not true. My EDF’s have retracts and flaps..
99% accuracy
You have no clue.
I agree..