VAALMONICA - Ten Minute Testing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ธ.ค. 2023
- This one was rough.
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Oh, boy! 3AM!
If you want a billion dollar word for your 3 AM upload. Agathokakological actually means something.
ag·a·tho·kak·o·log·i·cal ¦ a-gə-(ˌ)thō-ˌka-kə-¦lä-ji-kəl
: composed of both good and evil
Nice Ishizu cards LOL
@@Sterl500 That's actually really interesting
@@BreadBoyWeeb going off of that last game losing the Ishizus is probably a good thing
in italian the spell cards are pronounced
scelta -> "shel-ta" where the e is pronounced like in dress but a little more open (/ɛ/). Iit means choice
versare -> the e is pronounced as above (very open), the a is similar to the a in "bra". Also you need to pronounce the last e (ver-sa-re). It means "to pour"
intonare -> "in-to-na-re", where the o is /ɔ/. It means to intonate
Konami was so proud of the concept of the archetype that they forgot to actually print cards that do things
They do I’m sorry they don’t stop your opponent from actually playing the game
@@chaserseven2886 which makes them bad. Core concept of playing this game is stopping you opponent.
They also don't let you start playing the game
@@chaserseven2886That's how you play Yu-Gi-Oh. Trying to stop your opponent and trying to play through anything the opponent tries to do.
Real
And now imagine Valmonica suddenly becoming Tier 1 out of nowhere because they release Valmonica Double Helix in Legacy of Destruction or the set after!
I don't see any way giw this deck could ever be vaible. Like even a double helix won't help this deck.
@@Jrpg_guy I am aware of the issues with the deck and that you can't fix them easily. You have to either give them a bunch of broken cards or have to change how the deck works entirely like giving them cards that just place the counters immediately without you having to activate all these life point effects. You could at least give them more Spells that get you access to the other Spells/Traps and a Link that searches one so you could just summon the Link to add a Spell and then just chain the searches together. That way you would at least immediately get all the counters without effort. The deck has to get 1 card combos that play through more interruptions and that end on more interruptions to have a chance.
Maybe if the deck got Valmonica circular, Double Helix and Planet Valmonica
There’s already field spell that searches @@zurajanaisephirothda3886
All what Valmonica Double Helix needs to do is be a Link-2 card with a Twice Per Turn Quick Effect that draws or negates a face-up card, and you gain LP or take damage. Make it so it can only be Link Summoned if you have two different Valmonica Cards in the Pendulum Scales. By having a consistent, repeatable way to trigger the scales while also being a Heatsoul or Abyss, Valmonica basically solves its issues with deckbuilding, being able to trigger effects as needed and still stays with the unique theme of being control while not letting it be usable with other Decks
Thank god I no longer have to worry about my opponent going “scheiren effect, pitch agido” and gaining an absurd amount of advantage by milling these POWERFUL valmonica cards.
This video couldn't come out at a better time. I really can ignore the ishizu cards
Well, to be fair the only time he got a miller, using it immediately lost him the game...
You can only ignore half of them. 😈
When the unchained opponent played THAT poorly and still won? Great way to prove Vaalmonica is awful.
in my defense i have never played unchained before LMAO
@@TheSilverDragonX fair enough
@@TheSilverDragonX
That’s even more sad. Vaalmonica can’t even beat an inexperienced Unchained player
The fact that surviving with that weak off a setup doesnt even win you the game is amazing to me. In similar decks like weather painter or sky striker you atleast can snowball alot of advantage on turn 3. But this deck just cant. All they had to do is print a phrase like "remove a counter from the other fairy to search a valmo" on both of them and youd have a nice advantage engine going on.
Knonami really hates pendulum.
@@maxxcreese9911Despite Pendulum's main advantage (Infinite recycling) being obsolete due to Master rule 5 being almost always decided on turn 1 or 2.
@@maxxcreese9911 Sarcophagus is the new pendulum scale. Pend 4 easily each turn, and don’t need the stupid arrow head.
@@N12015yeah, and the worst part is, a lot of link decks have that recovery bulshit now, so the pend spam problem is not longer a issue anyways.
one of the main problem is actually not having many pend monsters,the deck could be okay, but it has basically zero grind game
Well. This TMT already aged well. Lmao
Why what happened?
@@yettel8shrjriene922both agido and kelbeck got banned
@@yettel8shrjriene922 what Sonic said.
@@phantomphoenix22why even comment lol (and yes, my comment is also useless)
@@sonic21blast88 ahh
I don’t care how mid this deck is, seeing even a single copy of Performage Flame Eater in any deck list fills me with eternal happiness and Christmas spirit
The word you're looking for is "bad". Mid is extremely generous.
@@tinfoilslacks3750 to be fair I commented this in the card by card before I watched the rest of the video. It sucks lmao but common Flame Eater W
Vaalmonica is a neat concept. They need something to tie the non-archtype support together better. Hoping for an an in-archtype searcher, something looking for Effect Damage or Gain LP text depending on your Pend Scales.
"Try not to look at the ishizu cards, they don't matter much anyway." His last words to his boy Agido. Everybody remember to build up your homies, don't bring em down
I'm still probably gonna try and find a way to use this archetype once it comes to MD, the concept is just too unique and interesting for me to pass up.
Here's hoping for some good support down the line.
You and everyone alike will be doing that , yr not special
@@isaiahjack3140 Lmao
@@isaiahjack3140 man, this is a really uncreative comment
@@isaiahjack3140if you think MD player gonna waste resources on a tier 9 PENDULUM deck, I can assurde you are special, maybe not in the kind of way you wanted 😂😂😂
@@ashikjaman1940 lmao
I think the objectively best wau to use them is as an Engine for 4s that can't get out of your hand.
I've been trying a Vaalmonica ABC AFD pile where the goal is too loop as man B-Busters as you reasonably can Pend summon 4 and do some nonsense and still having enough bodies to the the I:P/Regulus/ABC/Crystal Wing line. And you unfortunately just ignore their counter gimmick since using Scelta as a way to search the field spell or fix the driver garnet.
In terms of endboard I feel ABC is in a pretty okay spot all things considered that once you go through hangar once you'll have ABC for the next 3 turns which really helps vs grindy decks.
Maybe with the 3 infernity archfiend it might replace the previous darkwurm + gate zero engine to get out archfiend easier.
Ah yes, my favorite pendulum archetype after Endymion
I'm waiting for the 3rd faction of my tabletop archetype.
@@DirtCheapFUVaylantz
I'm more enthused by Symphonic Warrior.
I caught the Isaac reference, Joseph.
First question: can I make the devil girl and the angel girl kiss
It's america you can do anything you want
With consent
That'll be their boss monster that fixes everything
This feels like the most throwaway archetype I’ve seen in a long
I actually made a version that cut out the millers and opted to focus more on field spells because of how helpful consistent access to your field spell is in this deck, so I ran a Foolish Burial Goods Rainbow Bridge package alongside a 2 card therion package of Regulus + Therion Discoloseum.
Obviously the deck still sucks, but I found the mishmash of engines to bruteforce a semblance of consistency in this deck incredibly rewarding to play as all these incidental synergies making this deck barely tick!
God, I would love support for this deck...
I actually found this archetype works pretty well with the new aroma support, you can use jasmine to grab cattycorn from deck to search out the field spell and the lp gain effects help trigger all the aroma effects, unfortunately pure plant pile is just better at making use of the aroma cards
The man tells you to ignore them but I cannot. THEY GOT AGIDO MBT! KONAMI GOT AGIDO! What a painful moment...
The Issac reference had me laughing so much harder than it should have
That isaac reference gave me whiplash from how unexpected it was
really hoping this architype gets better. they are so cute, and the concept is really fun:(
Cant wait for the next 10 minutes with the new support. One step closer to Vaalmonica purrely toybox diabellstar pile.
Aaahhhh I just bought like this whole deck on TCGplayer. I just love the concept so much and the art is so sick! I don't care what you say I'll find a way and climb all the way up to second-to-last at locals!
"It's not hard to pick one when Brimstone is in the devil pool and you keep seeing Breath of Life."
I KNEW an Isaac joke was coming, I felt it in my bones
Valmonica's issues are indeed numerous if you see it as a deck. If you see it as an engine, it still has issues, but it does offer something unique: a consistent way to pendulum summon level 4 consistently, which is cool, but currently not that useful.
I’m totally on board with this idea. I’ve been playing them in Fluffal and it seems to work pretty well. The draw spell can fix your hand, and you can pitch toy vendor or edge imp chain with the scales to get some searches. You never summon the links, but you don’t need to.
isn't superheavy engine just better in that department and gives you material without a normal summon
@@beegyoshi1685in most decks it is, but the Vaalmonica cards require less bricks to play and you can use spells and traps.
THE ISAAC REFERENCE IM SCREAMING
It's so funny to me that the nouvelles cards are mostly in French and the Vaalmonica cards are somewhat in Italian
In the ocg they are full blown italian
And Eldlitch is Spanish
New we need a representative for Germany
Dragonmaid
@@zyro7756 Trains
@@zyro7756 Liebe
It’s like choosing between Brimstone and Dead Dove
Honestly I think it’s by far the coolest of the Valient Smashers archetypes
This list is playable for 2 weeks total, enjoy it while you can folks XD
Bold of you to assume i dont go x-4 already
Holy crap BoI reference 😱
MR MBT MADE AN ISAC REFERENCE
that pronunciation of "Scelta" inflicted me so much psychic damage my *Demone* already has 3 counters
...and what the fuck was that Zebufera?
Vogliamo parlare della pronuncia di versare? 😂
I always find it funny when someone says that pendulums are inherently op, you just have to show them valmonica, consistent and generic pendulum invocation and yet no one uses it
I think Vaalmonica has a ton of potential, but it just isn't a deck yet.
I want to see a few more Main Deck monsters and another good Spell.
Also, not enough people are talking about the visual effect used in the art of the Pendulums.
I'm hopeful the backrow of the deck is powerful and versatile they just need cards that tie the scales with spells also another deck that either burns or gains lp(likely we are getting perfomages support this year!)
Where can I find your treefrog hoodie???
Does Tremendous Fire count as effect damage or cost Damage? I'm building Vaalmonica on Nexus right now
And now I wonder "Why in the FFFF~ wouldn't you give any card that protects your scales, konami?"
"Tee heee~ 😜"
the concept for this archetype is so cool, its fkd up that it was doomed from the jump
i hope they somehow make it viable even as a rogue deck. I could see them being a very niche sub-engine for something in the future maybe lmao
Less gooo manadome trilosukdanuts!
I was about to buy the CRs as well lmao
Would be a shame if two of the monsters in this list do not make it out of this year
0:23 i love how it looks like the puppet died in response to MBT's refusal
0:55 this aged WELL
Is there any potential using valmonica as an engine in a level 4 deck, Traptrix, Madolche, Exosister, etc? I don't really see what it adds but I don't know any of those decks well.
It's decent,but we have spirits in the case of Exosisters,Traptrix have separate effects depending on whether you normal or special them and they're not named traptrix and for Madolche they're not Earths and the deck is often run with Vernusylphs
It’s an interesting concept kinda like darklords gimmick it just feels very incomplete right now.
After the list, I could see 2 charge of the light brigade and 2 raidens replacing the izhisu cards
D/D cards consistently damage as part of the effect… but I can’t imagine there’s much synergy there. 🤔
There is actually! Kepler alone gets 3 counters on dimonno (the better one) and 2 bodies on board, and if you go for a small centur-ion package (3 stand up 3 primera) you can semi-consistently end on siegfried, which helps with the spell/trap removal issue. Deck still sucks balls though, it loses to literally any spell/trap removal as well as kaijus and nearly every hand trap under the sun.
@@fleggyboi9738 so what you're saying is that when they release Uber busted Valmonica support in a year we should watch out for any hybrid builds with D/D/Ds
@ashikjaman1940 Probably not. The d/d/d line burns through 2700 life since you need to go through beyond (MBT wasn't on Mirror conductor which I think is better than Flame eater due to being a pendulum). But right now, it is one of the only ways to get 3 counters consistently.
@@fleggyboi9738I’m not familiar with the D/D/D flow chart, could you let me know how you’re getting 3 counters out of the D/D/D card?
@Unknown-qj9sm set vaal scales
summon kepler, search gate
Activate gate, search gryphon
Special gryphon
Make beyond, search mirror conductor
Pend gryphon and mirror conductor
Mirror effect (1 counter)
Make exceed using mirror and beyond
Exceed add back mirror
Exceed special mirror
Mirror effect (2 counters)
Make zealantis with gryphon and exceed
Zealantis effect, don't summon in face-down defence
Mirror effect (3 counters)
I love these cards design both in art and mechanics, but the only archetype I've found which supports them at all is live twin since they can do full set up turn 1 and then the vaals can go for game on your next turn
Is this the quickest aged tmt?
Hold on those plushes at the beginning are kind of spitting
Decks gonna go hard when we finally get Soul Charge back
love the deck concept, but they're really difficult to pull off
This deck is so good that it defies the banlist.
The X in the thumbnail is Roman numeral for 10. Don’t let MBT fool u, he went 10-4.
Wtf are those stuff toys on his shoulder? A one-eyed jellyfish and an anthropomorphic tooth?
Cool concept,bad execution is a phrase that defines most of the deckbuilding pack archetypes on release and then two main sets later they release some broken shit to shut us up
i love it when my ygotuber plays the binding of isaac
I like the build of this with the horus engine so you can play zombie vampire, giant trainer and Minerva
Hehe funny binding of Issac reference
Good video
I enjoyed this TMT, and I'm glad you enjoy seeing Pendulum being designed in unique ways, but I have to ask: why didn't you TMT Nemleria? I know I don't have any influence on _making_ you do anything, but It's sad to think Nemleria will fall by the wayside as a result.
I built this deck and played a single locals right after release and immediately acknowledged how bad it was. Really cool thematically, but definitely needs support in the future.
The opening skit was fantastic, as always, however I do think it was a missed opportunity not to have Doug and farfa do the voices
Would be neat if they got a card that made it so you can use both effects of their spells
Cool concept! Terrible execution!
I'm currently using a live twin engine since it is a 1-card into the twins with a couple life point gain effects, but it doesn't really help the engine do much nor benefit from it.
I think the lightsworns could help since you can pend some of them out, and mill a few spells to use on the side, and the aromage support gives some more LP gain. But otherwise, it needs truly custom level support to be even remotely playable as a deck or engine.
This deck would need like 3 cards that all go plus 1 and just give you 3 Resonance counters as a side effect just to become consistent, but even then it would barely have a wincon. The design is honestly baffling. It feels almost 10 years out of date in terms of power level.
Fire Kings looks more broken by the day, how are they not a top tier meta archetype?
What are they missing to make them tier 1 or 2?
I actually love the artwork on these cards so I picked up the whole core for like $25😅
Vaalmonica aromage is some of the funnest yugioh I've played in a long time. You're constantly gaining and losing life points
Really wish the TCG would learn from the OCG on how to turn an archetype that's unplayable out of the box into something that can compete by putting proper thought into the support cards. Maybe Tistina wouldn't be so bad right now.
Uploaded at 2AM and watching 2 hours later. Yup, sleep scheduling my friends.
I got to Master V on MD with these... Not particularly good but not awful either. Really fun, cheap, rogue Deck.
Tapir and Abyss Dweller win games on their own.
Also, the link Angel can Pop like 4-5 on summon usually
Ok so mbt didnt realize this but in lore the demon is actually the good one while the angel is the bad one. You can see that because well demon is a light and angel is a dark and also in the spell effects as the life point gain effects are more gambly.
Velma harmonica? who? The scooby doo chick? Jinkies? Zoinks? 0 people would have remembered if you skipped over this one, but I still appreciate you and the effort so ty 😌. This is the true 2023 pendulum experience.
Yes we did not miss or forget about that , kudos to you for making a pointless comment all for attention 🤣
@@isaiahjack3140 wait this is the second comment I've seen from you repeating the same sentiment. Are you a bot?
Konami was too busy banning Circular - FOR NO REASON! - that they forgot to give Vaalmonica effects
OH NO....!
2:29 ISAAC MENTIONED!! IF MY GIRL AND D6 BOTH DROWNING YOULL CATCH ME AT HER FUNERAL REROLLING THE DEVIL POOL FOR A 3 HEART DEAL
I’m sorry Joseph but I swear you said “Fire King Pomni” when reading Ponix
If it follows the trend of the last deck builder set it will get decent support. At least I hope so. Just good enough to be rogue and I’ll be content.
Where the hell is Da Bears
i cant help but feel that if the spells said you can only use each effect once per turn these might actually be playable
wait, MBT isn't a garten of banban streamer? what have I been watching all this time?
"versèr" lmaooooo
Why so late ughhhh guess I gotta watch this at 3 30 in the morning 🤷♂️
what would happen if Duralume enters the backrooms?
fire king pomni XD
Please do garden of ban ban XD, I would watch that so much
They got agido
Ok, first off, why play Scheiren and Ishizu millers? You only have a few cards you actually want in the GY and you have no fusions to make use of. 2nd, why even play around with Ishizu millers if they are banned in a little more than a week? 3rd, The shufflers don't do that much for the deck either.
Hmmmm... What if, what if we mix Lightsworn with this Valmonica deck? Maybe it works...?
only a few of them i think,and not too many because otherwise you would loose the many gain/loose effect that make the deck what it is
The solution is simple. We get Chain Energy to a point where it's bannable.
Valmonica is actualy cool, it is kind a sad thad a cool pend aractype is not meta.
Vaalmonica look cool but need better support or rewrite in their effects .
Once again proving that creativity usually means "bad", but as with most deck build pack archetypes, I'm not gonna count them out yet.
They’re more RNG than Purrely, except Purrely begun with results.
@@justice8718 I mean, people dumped on Purrely at first too. But then Konami gave them an easier to summon Great Magnus and a Draw 6. Hell, people dumped on all the Amazing Defenders in general (especially R-ACE). This is what I mean by never counting DBP Archetypes out, because more than other archetypes, Konami likes to hold out on the good shit. Having bad to mid starts and great finishes.
I'm so proud of you Joseph for making my ears bleed with every name pronunciation
Agatho-Kako-Logical