@@TheGamingTrent That's exactly why they should do it, and preferably regularly? 😅 If they're piloting a plane with hundreds of people onboard everything depends on them realizing fast enough!
@@TheGamingTrentif they experience it in controlled environments it might help later if they encounter it in real life, so they can recognize it I feel like its be much worse if they experienced it for the first time inside a plane, didn’t figure out what was happening, and passed out at the controls. Now that’s more dangerous
I would have explained it a bit diffrent. You get 21% oxygen, but because of the decrease in pressure, there are fewer overall molecules of O² which is the equivalent of breathing 7.6% of oxygen at sea level. It is similar to partial pressures with scuba diving, too.
Two hours at anything over 8500 with no O2, my girl friend starts getting headaches and a feeling of nausea. Bought a portable O2 system, problem solved. If you decide to buy one, check out the three types for the one that will work best for your situation. The constant flow system will empty the O2 bottle really quickly. I settled on the diluter demand flow system and it works best for her.
I was able to be a part of this at my school this year. It looks like the same people. I managed the full five minutes but I definitely felt compressed and lost time. Besides that, the only symptom I felt was a general numbness.
This makes me think of Helios Airway Flight 552. Those poor pilots were so confused bc of hypoxia. 😢 same thing happened with Japan Air Flights 123 but AMAZINGLY those pilots still mananged to keep the plane flying in their hypoxic state for awhile despite the back of the plane having a severe structural failure. Two examples of why hypoxic symptoms can be so dire while operating a plane.
That's a really smart idea to replace oxygen with nitrogen to mimic the low partial pressure of O2 at high altitude. Much more practical than building an actual altitude chamber. Did you notice any problem with your mustache interfering with the function of the oxygen mask? I have a beard and mustache and wonder if that would be a problem. I noticed one guy in the video who had a beard. Did he comment on any problems with the mask?
I might be wrong here. But it seems like the symptoms are more pronounced in a decompression chamber. The time of useful consciousness is 1-2 minutes at best. You should have been way worse off, am I right?
Agreed to some extent. The pressure chamber simulates exact systems and the effects are instant. However this test really proved even simple tasks were difficult let alone trying to fly an airplane. It proved how disastrous it would be to be hypoxic flying a plane.
not sure about being at 30000, TUC is only 1-2 minutes and yall were kicking for 6 minutes. I've done a chamber at 25K and people last about 3-5 minutes at that altitude.
I would have been getting those questions wrong before walking into the chamber.
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It really should be a mandatory part of pilot training.
Absolutely agree
@@SirDrifto it should be done once a year too. So you’re always prepared “nervous system wise” building that body memory is important.
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No sir that shit is dangerous
@@TheGamingTrent That's exactly why they should do it, and preferably regularly? 😅 If they're piloting a plane with hundreds of people onboard everything depends on them realizing fast enough!
@@TheGamingTrentif they experience it in controlled environments it might help later if they encounter it in real life, so they can recognize it
I feel like its be much worse if they experienced it for the first time inside a plane, didn’t figure out what was happening, and passed out at the controls. Now that’s more dangerous
I would have explained it a bit diffrent. You get 21% oxygen, but because of the decrease in pressure, there are fewer overall molecules of O² which is the equivalent of breathing 7.6% of oxygen at sea level. It is similar to partial pressures with scuba diving, too.
"Welcome to the 28,000 mile club" @12:27 i think the FAA guy had hypoxia too lmao
Hahaha I totally missed that 🤣👌
Two hours at anything over 8500 with no O2, my girl friend starts getting headaches and a feeling of nausea. Bought a portable O2 system, problem solved. If you decide to buy one, check out the three types for the one that will work best for your situation. The constant flow system will empty the O2 bottle really quickly. I settled on the diluter demand flow system and it works best for her.
I was able to be a part of this at my school this year. It looks like the same people. I managed the full five minutes but I definitely felt compressed and lost time. Besides that, the only symptom I felt was a general numbness.
The only thing is I'm not sure these can replicate rapid decompression, but otherwise are a fantastic alternative to giant steel chambers.
Not so much the rapid decompression. I agree that this cannot do, this is more a gradual hypoxic scenario based situation.
This makes me think of Helios Airway Flight 552. Those poor pilots were so confused bc of hypoxia. 😢 same thing happened with Japan Air Flights 123 but AMAZINGLY those pilots still mananged to keep the plane flying in their hypoxic state for awhile despite the back of the plane having a severe structural failure.
Two examples of why hypoxic symptoms can be so dire while operating a plane.
This is what peak Mt. Everest feels like
I would agree
Lmao I can’t answer half those questions rapid fire like that with full oxygen levels
Somedays I feel the same 😆
That's a really smart idea to replace oxygen with nitrogen to mimic the low partial pressure of O2 at high altitude. Much more practical than building an actual altitude chamber.
Did you notice any problem with your mustache interfering with the function of the oxygen mask? I have a beard and mustache and wonder if that would be a problem. I noticed one guy in the video who had a beard. Did he comment on any problems with the mask?
Yes absolutely and much cheaper
@@SirDrifto Right, much cheaper. Did you have any feedback about the beard issue? Thanks & safe travels!
I might be wrong here. But it seems like the symptoms are more pronounced in a decompression chamber. The time of useful consciousness is 1-2 minutes at best. You should have been way worse off, am I right?
Agreed to some extent. The pressure chamber simulates exact systems and the effects are instant. However this test really proved even simple tasks were difficult let alone trying to fly an airplane. It proved how disastrous it would be to be hypoxic flying a plane.
not sure about being at 30000, TUC is only 1-2 minutes and yall were kicking for 6 minutes. I've done a chamber at 25K and people last about 3-5 minutes at that altitude.
It was more an oxygen atom removal. Versus total pressure which is far more symptom induced environment.
Are you guys civilian pilots?
I think mustache is older too, so age has an effect on O2 saturation
whats 8x8? whats the square root of 64? lol great example of Daniel Kahneman's thinking fast and slow book
I was definitely thinking slow 😅