The Biggest Assetto Corsa Myth
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This video will be an upsetting revelation for some ! - Thanks for watching subbing clicking like and regretting being here.
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BMW m325i Racing and MX-5 though I think both are DLC cars :|
No regret about being here, whatsoever. What you're speaking about here is the same thing I'm saying to all the uppities for years. One day I realised that despite that I had been playing vanilla AC for years, I kept on driving the same cars. It turned out that 70% of the vanilla car set wasn't touched. Then I had a long session of testing / driving all of them. Lasting for months, that's been one of my top sim driving experiences, ever.
When you see the quality of the OG AC, it really gives hope for AC EVO, they have the possibility to absolutely change the game and put everyone in their place
It will take a long time before AC EVO will become as good as original AC. Not to mention their main programmer isn’t working with them anymore.
@@Rosaslav Aris? He can't code. Stefano? He went away long time ago.
@@alpha007org Yep, Stefano. He was probably a big reason why AC is so good. Did Aris left them as well?
@@Rosaslav aris left a few months ago
I would have agreed with this had it not been for ACC...
Base AC is quite fun and I like the “older” cars. I just wish AI was better for offline racing and I would play it more personally
Same here! If somebody could fix the AI I would play it lot more.
yeah that's my biggest issue with it too, since online support is very poor compared to modern standards, offline is how I typically play. I usually put opponent difficult and aggressiveness to 100 and then I go slow at the start because all racing AI is super slow off the line. Around turn 2 or 3 start to push and then I find the rest of the race to be much more enjoyable
What would be great is online races filled with AI!
I made my variation mod on the Praga R1 physics and also edited the AI.ini file. I've only tested it in Road America but the AI is much faster than me now, and they do occasionally crash if fighting for position on high speed corners at the start of the race, giving it a more realistic feel. Eventually they behave.
@@tonebalone607 Have you tried (on PC) Low Fuel Motorsport? I'm having a blast in this, every race is so tight, only sometimes got banged, but it has some penality and decent rating system. And it's free, just create account and careful make your way through rookie loobies to got higher rating. Then you get to the moment when people can apalogize you after race for their mistakes, than just blame you and make shitstorm.
I may have missed it in the past, but today's "Subscribe and Cry" made me snorkel my coffee. Well done.
the best way to consume coffee
"... It's also the most realistic"
No other sim does street and cup cars like AC. TO THIS DAY, TO THIS DAY.
Hmm,GTR2 2,rFactor,LFS,rFactor 2.....need more?
I agree 100 % . I agree so much that 90 % of mods installed on my AC are tracks, and only 10% mod cars. Most of the mods are awful.
Most of Kunos cars in AC is the best variation in any sim. And the laserscanned tracks is top notch too. Hard to find tracks made so well as the vanilla content of OG AC.
Definitely the bridgehampton track with the radical
😊
Agreed! And a beautiful feature when driving up through echo valley after turn 5 hearing the car effects reverberating off the berms on both sides is amazing and really brings immersion.
there is this video by a guy he made about driving a vanilla car in ac that he has in real life, needless to say he was amazed at how 1:1 they did the handling and interiors and sounds and everything. truly stunning game
Link? Car model?
@@Rosaslav i liturally tried search for the video after I typed the comment but there are so MANY videos on ac if I find it I am sending asap, I also want to see it again, because he has a mix of real life driving of that car and in game, its so good
@@Rosaslav i can search for car model give me a few minutes, I remember how it looks like
@@Rosaslav its called "This is the BEST Assetto Corsa Mod EVER..." by "that sim racing bloke" but in the video he talks about how it isn't the mod that it is the best.
edit: TH-cam deleted my comment with link. my memory might have failed me it might be a mod but I think its default physics or something like that.
@@hmp01 Found it. BMW Z4
i drifted on xbox AC in my logitech g29 for a ton of hours before i had a fancy setup, now i have pc and DD setup and i think im able to fully appreciate everything AC has to offer
If you arent using CSP in 2024 youre just missing out plain and simple. Sure you dont NEED mods. But this game and its community only thrive because of them.
I've got most sim games and only really play Assetto Corsa with the mods...
One thing I used to hear a lot when I was racing in a AMS2 league was, "don't play that game it's a slide simulator!". To me the physics always felt absolutely correct.
Ofc they are wrong, everybody knows that AMS2 is a hovercraft simulator
@@mattspeed brutal.
but not wrong lmao.
The upcoming AMS2 update seems to be promising - Its absolutely packed!
@@karlsmith8113 all the other updates were promising too. And each time they said they'd fixed the issues and the fanbois went mad. But I remember a time when we pointed it out to the devs and we were told we were wrong and that was how real cars handled. I think I'll pick it back up in a year or two and see what's transpired. It's got a lot of work to do to get it along the same lines as AMS1 handling wise. That handling model made sense.
Glad I am not the only sim racer to find ams2 physics slides and lacks connection to the road. Love everything else about ams2, range of cars, tracks, graphics quality etc are fantastic. Just cant drive it any more, AC is unbeatable
I love some of the road cars in original AC. My favorite is the Ferrari 488 GTB, just lower the TC and set the correct steering lock, it's so much fun to drive, that low grunt from the engine and the nimbleness, and the power. Love the Shelby Cobra, too, I am using a modded sound for it though that has a more "raw" sound.
Having said that, ACC has better FFB (really!), just lower the FFB effect intensity a tad so it's not too "hard", drive in dashcam mode, lower the TC, move brake bias to the rear and the cars are amazing to drive an race in ACC, my car is the Porsche 992 GT3 and it is fantastic to drive on the Nords. I am addicted to both ACC and AC.
Totally right. When i jumped into AC world last year i download ton of content and then realised i was overwhelmed with choice and ending never using many of the cars I've downloaded.
This way you get bored quite fast as the quantity make your experience similar use and throw away.
To have a great experience it's better to have less but quality content and creating goals and purposes within the game.
We live in a era where we are so overstimulated and we have too much stuff available too easily.
I was going to quit AC as i dont have much time to play nowadays due to work and other personal priorities.
However, i changed the way i play AC. Goals and focus on challenges.
Group 5 cars, getting familiar with almost all the tracks the world, sticking with one car or just one category of car. Improving my laptimes.
Having too much content, it's not the solution in my opinion.
I got AC because of original game and stayed, because of mods, I had plenty of fun starting my journey in the career mode, with slower cars teaching you weight transfers with no aero
Yes vanilla ffb/physics combined with quality mods is something unique in this game
how bad are the default setups? are the cars still at least good or are they like, awkward to drive and lose several secomd per lap just because of setup?
ive been in love with iRacing for 11years so far but have too give ac. Respect its still an amazing sim ❤
AC is a good but I’m convinced that if it were human you’d let it get you pregnant
One thing I definitely agree on is how soft the suspensions are for some of the Kunos cars. Best example I have is the Mazda MX-5 ND. I have one and I was really surprised how much the Kunos car dives under braking. The real car is nothing like that.
I found the NA MX-5 to have strange handling by default as well.
Thanks for the "confirmation" of what some of us already know - and that is that AC is the best Racing Sim out there....
And unless I am wrong?. My 3 favourite cars to drive on the Nordschleife are all DEFAULT AC cars, being the :- Mazda MX-5 / KTM X-Bow / and the Ferrari 458 GT2. [;]-)
i didn't even know a myth exist? lol. I always thought all the mod cars are just modified physics from the kudos cars. i might be wrong but i always thought that.
Every so often I buy a new sim, or revisit an old one after some updates. I'll spend a weekend, usually 6-8 hours getting everything setup (I use VR, motion & a lot of haptics).
But it always feels inferior to AC by a long margin in the raw driving experience no matter what I tweak. The only exception being rFactor2, I quite like the way it drives - but it's not quite there.
I still drive the standard AC cars quite often and many of them are still in my top 10, there is plenty of variety there too.
AMG dtm and the group c are great. Also the 787b is a hoot
Much like AC and ACC it will release in early access, and it will be half finished and everyone will complain as it will be a bug ridden mess.
12 months after that though, it will likely be the best sim ever made
i never know whats stronger in GM. The hate for iracing or the love for AC
Can anyone recommend setups *for console* ? I only have the Xbox version and finding advice that doesn’t start with installing a small plugin/mod is very hard to find. Thanks!
this "myth" was probably derived form the drift community recommending the mods because you really cant drift much more than a handful of kunos. and of course the custom mods look so good. I am a drifter and these days most original AC users are drifting or running Shuto.
The URD (Darche) Porsche 992 GT3-R and Cup 2021, VRC (Auriel) Audi 90 GTO, RSS 2000 V12, and VRC Formula Alpha 2023.
I like the RSS Formula 1978. A very fun version of my favorite car on iRacing before they ruined the tires (opinion). I tried the Shelby Cobra at IMS and was wondering if y'all changed your setups any for that track.
"I sound like a fan boy", surely not James!!
To be fair you speak a lot of truth in this video.
whjere is the truth? where are these "memes" about AC needing modded cars that he's talking about? where is the truth behind this claim? cos in all the years im playing AC i have never come across this
Is there a way to make the kunos cars look more better(reflections,. interior lighting)
Well, CSP makes everything look better in terms of lighting & particle effects.
I love the 787, I just can't figure out how to mod away the suspension squeak sound.
You don't neccessarily NEED mods to enjoy AC, the vanilla cars are still to this day extremely good. However, some of the high quality car mods are so good that going back to vanilla cars just feels bland sometimes. Also, there are some reworked cars like the 599XX, where if you do them back to back (the vanilla car and the modded version), you start to appreciate all the nuances and improvements in almost every aspect that these modders bring to this game. Obviously not all mods are created equal so the process od finding the good ones is challenging to say the least, but once you collect a few you like, going back to vanilla cars can become a very rare occassion
I prefer the acc cup car. Ac1 cup isn't too bad though
I have to agree particularly with the fwd S**tboxes the mod cars all seem to have terminal off throttle oversteer, now I've driven a lot of FWD cars Hard and none of them are as bad as that
I played Asseto on PC never using mods, i never felt the need to.
Hey also is it me or is there no Porsche cup car on the Xbox version? 2017 or any other
Can anyone point me to resources for tightening up suspension setups the right way?
I can't believe you didn't mention the x-bow
To drive the Porsche Cup car in iRenting I would have to first give them any money which I refuse to do.
Finally !! Someone thinking like me !
Completely agree!
AC is the most enjoyable sim to drive in for me.
I’m in love with lotus 98t
Thank you for saying this! You couldn't have said it better. It is not the first video of yours that I watched but I am now a new subscriber.
Among the best cars are the LMP1s. Man, the Porsche 919 Hybrid 2016 is unbelievable to drive!
Let's not forget that RSS guys developed cars for Kunos after a internal clash and the leave of the seniors developers.
The base game just got the better FFB and physics than any other mod... FFB native is just the best in the sim market.
No... There are VERY few mods that are better but there are better, one example URD DTM 2018 just blows everything in existence.
yeah but not all cars. for example JDM car pack mostly actually sucks (except rx7)
Best about AC1 is the sound of suspensions.
Haha remember when you went nuts about the "ueke ueke" sound of suspensions. When I watched Jardiers first Clio race I heard the excact same sound. Laughed like crazy :D Yeah sooo true: Oldtimers are so good. Hope we get some in AC2 too
Lol so annoying 😂
AC now also has real crash sounds :)
In my experience, it goes kinda like this: you install AC and all its packs, you mod the crap out of it with all graphics, cars, tracks mods you can possibly find, and after a while doing that you end up playing online on some Nür Touri server which usually only allow ACs original content anyway. So yeah. Mods are nice and all, but dont go over the moon for them...
I’ve never heard anybody say that. I thought this was common knowledge
Outside of AC , you here it lots "you need mods". AC is really good for GT but only with mod cars , MOD cars fix AC.
Also look at online sessions that ignore most of AC content or even LFM running super random mods.
@@GamerMuscleVideos the best 2 or 3 modders for ac can be extremely proud that they can come very close to og quality, sometimes they can match it, but they rarely surpass it. the sound of premium mods are an improvement though. would love a kunos sound overhaul.
The AC console guys hear you
AC is flooded with mediocre mods. Although some are great.
All I want for ACE is better AI, sound , kerb physics and of course added rain, night and proper ranked online.
Mod support can wait a year or two
This is so true! I have simraced on console for about 2 year (I have a PC now but still use console to play with friends), and so have driven virtually every vanilla car in AC. I never understood the phrase "you need mods in AC for it to be decent" -I have had plenty of enjoyment as well as a great simracing experience from all of the default cars. Also, many of the car or track mods you find on the internet are utter crap sometimes. I honestly don't understand the prejudice vanilla AC gets. Every other sim is just a slightly worse copy of AC
100% agree.
100% Agree
I got like 400 hours out of OG content, its fun.
If they had only the KTM X-bow and the nords, I’d be fine. Remember when it was a few BMWs? It was great even back then!
Also all the Lotus variants, I've been playing it since almost exactly 10 years and it never got boring. I mean I love what mods helped to achieve but if you buy the ultimate edition you'll be set for years.
Had so much fun in the 917/30.
Someone is wrong on the Internet! I must correct the tea sipping bald man! I drove the LA Mountains map in a default car and drove the same car IRL. I know both the car and the road pretty well. I "didn't" break any road laws while Max performing the brakes, but I didn't have any problems controlling the car IRL. In AC the same default car was unrecoverable in similar situations. Of course I'm aware there could be many factors to contribute to the discrepancy in experience but it seemed when the tires would heat up in AC they would overheat too quickly.
RF2 has the best porsche cup car
Base game Aye See is fantastic. It’s how I play. What keeps me from coming back is the inability to run timed races & no AI mods to make a custom season worth engaging in. AMS2 is better in these ways and for that becomes an overall better offline experience. Don’t come at me with that 3rd party SRS nonsense.
The AC shelby Cobra is great, bit the best one by a country mile, is the Rf2 one. Sorry, that sort of blurted out of me.
R234 track....decent immersion....
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I must be living under a rock because I have literally never seen or heard anybody say this 😅 The Kunos cars feels great to me.
I've got over 1K cars in my AC. Mods are addicting and I can't keep up with all the content being made every week by the community. That said 80% of Kunos cars drive better then 80% of mods. I almost use mods to fill up my single player grids with interesting cars. Which is sad because AC AI is about as good as real life Forza players. There's a handful of modders I can depend on making cars that drive good but sadly most are just pretty 3D mods from Forza that drive like wagon wheels in foot deep gravel. Some dont even bother to animate wipers.
Same, there are only dozens of REALLY good mods, I am extremely picky though unlike some shilling TH-camrs... Many RSS, VRC or URD are objectively bad! I assess every single car individually based on FFB, physics, sounds and graphics, very few have all top scores.
idk I just like drifting
The assetto corsa porsche cup car is one of the best car in the game and in iracing its one of the poorly designed car compared to real life, not so fair comparison in my opinion
Every car in iracing is crippled by the tire model , lighter cars with downforce are less bad but honestly it's insane how cars handle in iracing all of them have same issue and it's been like that since 2008
@@GamerMuscleVideos agreed my favorite sim is ac but i play iracing for the online
it's the absolute opposite for around 90% of all car mods... i think all the kunos cars are incredible. the AC rs1600 is the best car in all of sim racing imo.
The RS1600, like the other live axle KS cars, have one too many rigid link in the live axle, which binds the suspension shut and removes most of the rear suspension travel.
The car could probably be significantly better just by removing one of the links or making it a spring.
Is it possible to have fun in Single Player Races with original AC cars? That would be awesome… Modded Cars are mostly a Sh*tshow when it comes to AI races..
Ai is not so good in AC , you can still have fun but genrally AI is way better in Race room , AMS2 and the F1 games if you want to drive against AI and do races.
Gamermuscle the Michi Hoyer of AC. That said the Pcup in iRacing is terrible.
True, the base cars are amazing
AC would always be my #1 recommendation for anyone getting into simracing, but the best thing about it is the mods, you don't need them but they are the reason it's so good, tomato tomato
I agree with you. I spent a year driving vanilla ac and didn't really scratch the surface, then got content manager but still no mods for another 6 months or more. I don't really drive any other sim. My favourite cars are definitely the lotus 49, ac cobra, gt 40. The Ferrari f1 cars, the BMW z4gt3. So many. Obviously cm and csp have opened up the possibilities to endless hours of donut inducing loonecy. But yeah I completely agree.
True true, default cars are very good in Assetto Corsa ❤
The original AC Porsche RSR is an absolute dream to drive with a decent setup on the Nordschleife, also one of the lower tier formula cars that goes by the name FA-something is also fun to drive you do a race with it at Monza for one of the challenges if you want to 100% it
I like the RSR, unmodified, at Spa but I have no idea how close it is to the real thing.
I run the sim all the time and use the cars in the sim and they look great
I don’t have mods or use the graphics mod
Just run everything maxed out and on 1080 and it looks great on my single 32 inch monitor
Great videos
If anyone thinks EVO is gonna be AC part Two, I think you may be a bit let down.
tried the Porsche panamera turbo for the first time yesterday around the nord and my god it was breath taking and so much fun
Many mod cars also use the handling models and ffb from Kunos cars, somtimes slightly changed.
I personally like many of the Kunos cars. Only same are a bit questionable.
U get the best experience, if u pick one car that u really like and know how it would handle in real life (or estimate) and modify it urself.
This takes time but in the end u come up with a real copy of the car. Im working on a 1 to 1 copy of the Mclaren F1.
Would u like to test it?
I also have more stuff. I did the first crash audio fx mod that finally fixed the horrible stock crash sounds of the game.
And some graphics overhauls aswell.
Good to know as I could never get content manager to work.
I very much enjoyed that small boxy BMW.
Could be aimed at me 😅
Remember my favourite Kunos car right from the beta AC version was the Ferrari 458 GT2. And used it when Isle of Man track mod appeared, just so seeminglt trustworthy responses. And enjoyed the Porche Cup car alot on especially Misano Wold Circuit and modern Spa and Imola.
Then went real world track day in a rented street version Lamborghini Huracan LP-610 - and went right back to my wheel, but got do dissapointed with the Huracan ST version - had expected it to be much smoother and agile through the tighter corners, but it felt more like a lorry compared to a GTR2 LP-610 street version mod, much more inline with my real world experience.
From then on my faith in Kunos standard cars dissapeared. - apart from some of the Lotus cars and aforementioned Ferraris and Porches, and went ever since fully bunkers in splendid car mods - and especially vintage and historic race cars....but watching this vid definitely will give standard Kunos cars a new chance now! ❤
I play on Simucube Sport 2 and the feeling I get when driving a PCup in iRacing is noticeably better than driving any PCup in Asseto Corsa. In iRacing there’s no TC or ABS on the newest PCup so you actually have to modulate your brake pedal not like assetto corsa where you just smash your brake pedal 😂. I also have a motion system and I prefer the motion on iRacing because of how fast it feels. Assetto Corsa feels sluggish.
1) I think you are just repeating a talking point you have seen online
2) AC is not ACC and braking is different
3) iRacing you can just cap the brake and brake very much like ACC and still be in top 5 top split with lots of cars no brake modulation needed
4) there is no ffb for braking in iracing to be able to modulate braking from AC1 has this
5) iracings tires have a huge physics hole where they heat up under braking or any load and don't cool down / re return to grip fast as a result no car in iracing drives realistically
6) you can slide a real Porsche cup car around and even drift it a bit following different trajectories and altering trajectory with gas brake steering , this is not possible in iracing due to the tire issue , you can see this done with real Porsche cup cars.
7) even with ACC and it's braking smashing and riding brake would not apply to lots of corners where you only dab the brake to adjust the car , this is most corners on most tracks.
Honestly I can only assume you are massively under driving or have some bizarre iracing specific driving style , the Porsche cup car in iracing is one of the most halarously bad SIM Cass ever produced , mostly due to how iracings tires work.
@@GamerMuscleVideos I assure you, my perspective is not merely a repetition of online talking points. Assetto Corsa (AC) was my first simulator, and I have invested over 1700 hours with a wheel in that game, which I continue to play regularly. I recognize the differences between AC and Assetto Corsa Competizione (ACC), particularly regarding braking mechanics.
While iRacing may lack certain force feedback (FFB) features for braking, and its tire physics have been criticized for not cooling down quickly under load, it still offers a unique and valuable experience. Each simulation has its strengths, and certain aspects function better in different games.
My primary focus isn't on sliding or drifting a Porsche on the track, as I'm not seeking a drifting simulator. If the Porsche Cup car in iRacing is as problematic as you suggest, why was it chosen for comparison? Additionally, if AC were superior in all aspects, we would see more professional drivers exclusively using it over iRacing. Each simulation has its quirks, and while iRacing may not perfectly replicate every aspect of real-world driving, it provides a competitive and engaging racing experience.
Can´t compare iRacing PCC with a pre-pre Version of a PCC in AC. Stupid!
You are damn right Mr. Muscle. A lot of simmer-sinners never have tried the stock AC cars, but I have yet to find a bad one among them.
I like the Porsche 981 GT4. I have a 982 and after softening the front ARB and stiffening the rear I get results awfully close to real life. IRL I'm actually 2-3% slower but I think that is s survival thing.
I have tried all the other Sims and still find AC has the best physics, cars, graphics and overall enjoyment, love racing the -Porshe cup car, also love the kudos Mazda Miata cup car, not that fast but the handling and fun factor is fantastic, love the sound of it too !!
And the RSR is even better👍 I’m on ps so stock is all I got seeing you guys with all your mods is depressing
I've always wondered why ACC isn't as good as AC, example porsche cup on ACC literally sucks compared to AC
My guess - Unreal engine
@@GamerMuscleVideos a real sliding simulator by unreal engine
AC really "Needs" mods if you into street cars, any sim race game has gt3 cars, but Assetto is the only one where you can drive a Nissan Skyline over a Japanese Mountain Road, thats where Modding shines, obviously there are lots of Track Car mods too
The C7 and C7R keeps me coming to AC, there isn’t a sim I can think of that has them. The C7 and then modded scanned tracks is great for track day prep. It’s not perfect but it’s close enough
as someone who took a few years to make the step to pc i can vouch for the fact that the standard cars in assetto corsa are as fun as the mods !!
The Lotus 98T is honestly one of the most fun things I've ever driven in any sim.. ditto the BTCC Ford Sierra Cosworth. AC really is a total bargain.
I watch the YT channel of a guy called Harry Metcalfe. Once he did a review of the Ferrari 812 Superfast. At some point on the highway, he stood in 7th gear at some rpm I no longer recall and got a speed I no longer remember, let's say 130kph but it most definitely wasn't that. Point is, I loaded AC, loaded the 812 SF that came with the last DLC they made for it in 2017, put it in 7th gear, reached the same rpm and lo' and behold: I got the same exact speed. Amazing