herO's Insane Colossus Micro - Starcraft 2: Serral vs. herO

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  • herO vs serral in a protoss vs. zerg with lots of micro, herO displaying some crazy colossus micro with PiG almost losing it.
    Match: herO vs. Serral
    Tournament: IEM Katowice 2023
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  • @RachelTension
    @RachelTension ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I didn't realize colossus had blink

    • @rickyli3620
      @rickyli3620 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      nah it was the warp prisme

    • @aloe7794
      @aloe7794 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They kinda do look like big Stalkers, you know?

  • @sparkfx5874
    @sparkfx5874 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That was one of the sickest plays I've seen in a while. Think the only other play that rivaled that was a mass pickup with phoenixes against Terran I forgot what all he picked up but then dropped them all down right on top of his disruptors' shots the moment they detonated.

  • @chrisklugh
    @chrisklugh ปีที่แล้ว +14

    What a great couple of games. Hats off for the both of them.

  • @destonwong2577
    @destonwong2577 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    If Protoss and Terran do not make any decent dmg to zerg in the first 10mins then the outcome is heavily favoured on zerg.

    • @user-tr6nw7jr6j
      @user-tr6nw7jr6j 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Against serral yes

    • @jaydenbouchard4256
      @jaydenbouchard4256 หลายเดือนก่อน

      just in general, you dont want to ket zerg do their thing, you have to deny creep and delay their expensions always

    • @jaydenbouchard4256
      @jaydenbouchard4256 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i morso mean like force them to make army with their larva rather than always drones so you have to keep pressure

  • @bwhity
    @bwhity ปีที่แล้ว +41

    i know the game is older but this is the best sc2 era IMO, such amazing games for years!!!

    • @acehughj4527
      @acehughj4527 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know and players are somehow still only getting better and better at the game it's absolutely ridiculous.
      TIME recently with his major improvement and Her0 too who only recently reached the heights he's at as a pro gamer

    • @rudysettles2077
      @rudysettles2077 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      zerg era, 4 more years!

  • @mindsprawl
    @mindsprawl ปีที่แล้ว +37

    hero stopped me getting robbed in the city centre, with a clutch sentry forcefield.

  • @uberculex
    @uberculex ปีที่แล้ว +81

    In the second game where the announcer said that both armies were playing greedy and teching to midgame, that means zerg always wins.

    • @iseektheholygrail2055
      @iseektheholygrail2055 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't know how to say this, but protoss has faster forge upgrade and benefit more from their tech since all their ground units share the same upgrade. The reason he lost was because he didn't scout the hive fast enough and was under the assumption he will only be facing zerg midgame force without viper. Thats why he immediately attacked when he realize viper was on the way.

    • @uberculex
      @uberculex ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iseektheholygrail2055 You just said what I said in more words.

    • @InfTlr
      @InfTlr ปีที่แล้ว

      This is what blizzard wants, zergcraft

  • @tomcarpentier6949
    @tomcarpentier6949 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    How serral almost won the 6:45 fight is beyond me. Hero played like literral artanis and yet he almost lost

    • @Shabasky1
      @Shabasky1 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      No zealots to soak. Stalkers attacking lings instead of roaches.

    • @sleepyangel1972
      @sleepyangel1972 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Serral is a world class player with a massive army?

    • @kevincepeda3868
      @kevincepeda3868 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That is the power of the most broken mechanic/ability in the game "creep", paired with a lot of larva, zerg can just replenish and send their army immediately anywhere within creep

    • @crazzynez
      @crazzynez ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@kevincepeda3868 lmaooo

    • @sc2youtube744
      @sc2youtube744 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Colossus do zero damage to roach ravager

  • @ObeliskM
    @ObeliskM ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember times when zerg had to build mass corruptors and actively micro them to counter colossi. Just like terran with vikings. Now all zerg has to do is to build a couple of vipers, get energy for basically free (defilers at least consumed units) and click on colossus with insta kill ability...

    • @iseektheholygrail2055
      @iseektheholygrail2055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Corruptor only need spire which is a lair tech, viper need hive which is expensive and take a long time to build. That being said, abduct is an insanely strong ability and I wish they had nerfed its range rather than giving it post-cast delay

    • @iseektheholygrail2055
      @iseektheholygrail2055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is basically snipe but with instant cast in term of functionality(ghost still more broken tho)

    • @ObeliskM
      @ObeliskM ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iseektheholygrail2055 dealing with colossus required many corruptors, so spire+corruptors were more expensive than hive + vipers. And it required a lot of micro, unlike vipers.

    • @iseektheholygrail2055
      @iseektheholygrail2055 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ObeliskM you need to build infestation pit before you can go into hive which make it too slow if you build them as response. You need to either know beforehand that your opponent will be going colossus or buy enough time to get vipers out. That being said, I agree that abduction is a busted ability as I've mentioned above

    • @diwajerebation4077
      @diwajerebation4077 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iseektheholygrail2055 at least snipe has a delay, and they dont fly

  • @sawyermifsud852
    @sawyermifsud852 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Gods remember when Colossi were the premier Protoss AOE? Since LOTV they barely tickle roaches or anything else that isn't light. Imagine if Hero had Disruptors there.

    • @diwajerebation4077
      @diwajerebation4077 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and then they get abducted, ht when

    • @kommisar.
      @kommisar. ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@diwajerebation4077 Yeah, it's insane the type of hard countering Vipers and Infestors can do. At least Ghosts' snipe can get interrupted.

    • @notrather5514
      @notrather5514 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kommisar. Since a few week yes. :D

    • @kommisar.
      @kommisar. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notrather5514 Even before the latest balance patch Ghosts' snipe could be interrupted. We saw this in MANY professional games. What the latest balance patch did was simply cancel the snipe if the target went out of the snipe's range.

    • @notrather5514
      @notrather5514 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kommisar. I know but I havent seen it MANY times. The only cancel was their death which is not really a cancel so no.

  • @77arceus
    @77arceus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That preparation for the DT… incredible

  • @killerxn7758
    @killerxn7758 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Glad you upload semi regularly again!

  • @ObeliskM
    @ObeliskM ปีที่แล้ว +24

    A pity HerO lost. His micro was much better. Serral just kept building more stuff.

    • @iseektheholygrail2055
      @iseektheholygrail2055 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Micro is half the battle, macro is the other half. They both have their strongpoint

    • @codyestes6596
      @codyestes6596 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      More economy because your workers didn’t implode due to banelings def helps

    • @iseektheholygrail2055
      @iseektheholygrail2055 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@codyestes6596 that's just how larva mechanic works. In return to needing to be on point with inject, you get increased production that can flexibly shift between worker and army. The fact that the oracle was deflected also help

    • @kommisar.
      @kommisar. ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hero just kept going for all-in's and Serral was able to defend. That's how he outgrew Hero every time.

    • @ObeliskM
      @ObeliskM ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kommisar. only last attack was all-in

  • @RuneKatashima
    @RuneKatashima ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Geez, Protoss wins are so few on this channel.

  • @namdo0512
    @namdo0512 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    damn serral raise economic so good as if he had recharged for the first time

  • @aaronalquiza9680
    @aaronalquiza9680 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    damn, 15 +1 missile roaches wipe out 15 1+ cannon stalkers

  • @candidate3512
    @candidate3512 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hero can be aliens with advanced technology. But still not enough against the overwhelming swarm

  • @andrzejnadgirl2029
    @andrzejnadgirl2029 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Are you gonna consider uploading Maru vs ByuN from group D? Their first game was IMHO best one of the whole tournament, though I didn't seen all games yet.

    • @jkkim6928
      @jkkim6928 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Watch Reynor VS Oliveira. Honestly the most memorable series in this event

  • @nicob.6685
    @nicob.6685 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    whats the solution to bane-runby´s?

  • @litlgenjinie2927
    @litlgenjinie2927 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    comparing bane roll and lib harass - both sneaks into mineral line and costs the defender way more multi-tasking, since the attacker only has to shift-click and do other things. the difference is bane rolls kill ur whole mineral line if u don't react in 2 seconds, lib harass takes 1 kill each shot so u can be alerted and react, way more forgiving to the defender. Bane rolls just too unforgiving and too unfair, too stressful to play against.

    • @aloe7794
      @aloe7794 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dont get me wrong but if you let any banes into your mineral line you kinda asked for that to happen
      Protoss: cannons (!) and gateway walling
      Terran: sensor towers (!) and PF
      Zerg: lurkers and spines (!)

    • @gatoparalitico
      @gatoparalitico ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@aloe7794 Yeah, protoss had a cannon and a half wall at 5:25 and even still lost 14 probes after a 2 second delay on his reaction
      If this was an adept shade in or a lib sieging in they'd kill 3-4 drones at max

    • @valentin_din_romania
      @valentin_din_romania ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok but the liberator is an air unit while the banes are close-range ground units you can't really compare them

    • @ObeliskM
      @ObeliskM ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@aloe7794 a cannon or two wont kill all banelings quickly enough

    • @diwajerebation4077
      @diwajerebation4077 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aloe7794 static D cannot stop banes

  • @boreduser12
    @boreduser12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What was the weird oracle glitch at 12:27

  • @diwajerebation4077
    @diwajerebation4077 ปีที่แล้ว

    theres nothing sadder than seeing stalkers fight cracklings

  • @Steven-gc3fd
    @Steven-gc3fd ปีที่แล้ว

    What a game🎉

  • @HyperXcube
    @HyperXcube ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Zerg being op as usual

    • @blakesmith5051
      @blakesmith5051 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it op, or is it just in the hands of one of the all time best players?

    • @WhatsY0UTUB3
      @WhatsY0UTUB3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blakesmith5051 its op

  • @NewTypexvii
    @NewTypexvii ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:33 to title

  • @kommisar.
    @kommisar. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fuck me does Serral make PvZ look broken....

  • @g4m3life86
    @g4m3life86 ปีที่แล้ว

    intelligent gameplay

  • @aaronalquiza9680
    @aaronalquiza9680 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    PiG and ZombieGrub commentary makes the game more fun to watch

  • @fortunadodesperado
    @fortunadodesperado ปีที่แล้ว

    9:40 *spoiler* oh my

  • @bruno1554
    @bruno1554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I cant understand why Hero never uses PsiStorms …

  • @cugamer8862
    @cugamer8862 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Unpopular opinion: Serral matches on this channel are fucking boring. The title is always something like "Player X's awesome thing" only to see the awesome thing and then Serral rolls banes into mineral lines and spams abduct. You already know what's going to happen because it's the same thing you've seen in the last fifty Serral games.

    • @mz5805
      @mz5805 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      that is his style really - cold machine-like efficiency. Maybe that is not most eye-catching but he is superb in what he is doing.

    • @jkkim6928
      @jkkim6928 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Serral abuses the most out of imbalanced zerg mechanics
      So yea you’re on point

    • @litlgenjinie2927
      @litlgenjinie2927 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      bane sneak into mineral line such a apm-efficient play, the attacker invests 2 apm and 5 banelings yet the defender has to react in 2 seconds while so many other things are going on, or they just lose the game for it. feels so unfair

    • @diwajerebation4077
      @diwajerebation4077 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes

    • @wido461
      @wido461 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, I mean he is known for being an excellent standard zerg player. If you want to see a cool zerg, Ragnarok does some janky stuff and is more fun to watch sometimes.

  • @icetarrantula
    @icetarrantula ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Imagine playing protoss lol

    • @GameFuMaster
      @GameFuMaster ปีที่แล้ว +20

      feels weird watching protoss. Expensive units that don't feel like they deal as much damage as their cost implies

    • @cugamer8862
      @cugamer8862 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Especially against Zerg. Terrans have ghosts so they can EMP enemy casters mitigating the Viper threat, and when a mineral line gets smoked by a ling run by MULEs can drop to make up the slack but Protoss are just helpless against both of those threats. So of course Zerg players will spam it knowing that they have a massive advantage in doing so.

    • @litlgenjinie2927
      @litlgenjinie2927 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@cugamer8862 yeah terran has sensor towers to be pre- alerted but toss just has to react to bane rollby, it's just impossible even for pro players

    • @diwajerebation4077
      @diwajerebation4077 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      honestly toss players deserve it for sticking with the race for this long

    • @diwajerebation4077
      @diwajerebation4077 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cugamer8862 emping is much more micro intensive than abducting

  • @ph4nn0m
    @ph4nn0m ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Serral is an amazing player

  • @WatchPripara
    @WatchPripara ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Vipers are still too strong. The Viper nerf is laughable.

    • @iseektheholygrail2055
      @iseektheholygrail2055 ปีที่แล้ว

      The nerf is decent against skytoss or high templar, it just that there's nothing to punish them in hero's comp

  • @vanja1170
    @vanja1170 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    these games completely depict how broken zerg is, and im glad people are waking up in the comments, if you’re still trying to argue against this point, let me remind you who are the top 3 players atm and have been for the past 4-5 years? serral, dark and reynor, and maru is the only one that ive seen who can beat them, and protoss in general is so unbelievably weak its a joke, im pretty sure there was only 1 protoss who was in top 10players and it was hero

  • @ALEX5207919
    @ALEX5207919 ปีที่แล้ว

    🧡🧡🧡

  • @andywang6918
    @andywang6918 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Serral is like the Ultimate secret boss you must defeat to get to the true ending.
    He's just so methodical and concise.

    • @InfTlr
      @InfTlr ปีที่แล้ว

      He's literally playing an overpowered race and a moving to the win, there is no skill showing

  • @alblar7904
    @alblar7904 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    im always get happy when zerg loses

    • @kevinnguyen290
      @kevinnguyen290 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He won 2-0 tho? Did u watch the vid?

    • @alblar7904
      @alblar7904 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinnguyen290 GET OFF MY BACK WITH THAT SH!T

    • @LiCensored
      @LiCensored ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinnguyen290, how that fact confront with point that man happy when Zerg losses? And herO was leading on their group, and quite concede deliberately to rescue Serral from group kickoff, or just don't want show his best strats on group stage. But Serral fanboys, where are you now?

    • @kevinnguyen290
      @kevinnguyen290 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LiCensored because he presumably only commented that he's happy when zerg loses bc he saw the thumbnai and title and thought her0 won

  • @anupamgarg3590
    @anupamgarg3590 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how do u fit colossus in a warp prism...duh, just like u fit elephant in a fridge

    • @aloe7794
      @aloe7794 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      man now I cannot unsee that colossus with its legs compressed to the maximum in that prism with bare amount of ability to move

    • @Bobby.Kristensen
      @Bobby.Kristensen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wraith tech from Stargate Atlantis

    • @iseektheholygrail2055
      @iseektheholygrail2055 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's basically like it's name. It warp you but stop the process halfway and store your data inside the crystal that is its core before finishing the process when it unload. That's why it can pick up from range.

  • @sunghobaek3361
    @sunghobaek3361 ปีที่แล้ว

    1st Yugi 💰
    2nd Real Estates 🌐🪐⛳️
    3rd Manufacturing 💺

  • @zelador1680
    @zelador1680 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is Serral that good or are the Zergs clearly unbalanced?

    • @blakesmith5051
      @blakesmith5051 ปีที่แล้ว

      Serral is a former world champ and contender for one of the best players of all time

    • @zelador1680
      @zelador1680 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blakesmith5051 I know. But it still feels like the zerg are unbalanced, and it looks like Serral is exploiting that imbalance. I have that impression every time I watch Serral games.

    • @WhatsY0UTUB3
      @WhatsY0UTUB3 ปีที่แล้ว

      queens are way too good

    • @blakesmith5051
      @blakesmith5051 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WhatsY0UTUB3 probably, but without them Zerg are near defenseless in the early game. Queens are too important for macro, defense, and expansion

  • @empese1127
    @empese1127 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Its not that Serral is better, it's just that P is the weakest race in the game right now.

    • @blakesmith5051
      @blakesmith5051 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Serral is literally one of the best players ever and a two time world champion, I don’t think it’s all P being weak

  • @rudysettles2077
    @rudysettles2077 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Zergs op nerf them pls

  • @Siggegjess
    @Siggegjess ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a

  • @yannickfrogel3537
    @yannickfrogel3537 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Zerg wins every time despite Protoss or Terran playing better

  • @irfanalakbar
    @irfanalakbar ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Serral is the beast..!

  • @captainfordo2780
    @captainfordo2780 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hero and Maxpax, protoss represent. I don’t even consider harstem anymore since he’s just bad now. Harstem has matches losing to scarlett lol. Scarlett.

    • @Soyadrian34
      @Soyadrian34 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think harstem never has been a top top protoss and with maxpax I have my doubts, but man showtime in his prime was a beast, haven't seen much of him lately

    • @ZiaurRahman-up2ii
      @ZiaurRahman-up2ii ปีที่แล้ว

      When was Harstem ever a top protoss?

    • @jkkim6928
      @jkkim6928 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Year of Harstem

    • @diwajerebation4077
      @diwajerebation4077 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i feel bad for scarlet being the worst best zergs

    • @kommisar.
      @kommisar. ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't watched any of Harstem's matches in Katowice, but I've watched him on Wardi's channel and he has looked really good, even beating HeroMarine. I think the only people he really loses to are top Zergs, Byun and Maru. I could be wrong, but I think in PvP he's a coin toss.

  • @codyestes6596
    @codyestes6596 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I can’t believe A clicking Banelings and wiping out an entire mineral line in less than 5 seconds is still in the game after all of these years.

    • @roy761017
      @roy761017 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      As a zerg player, baneling is actually an expensive unit in my opinion. Especially in early game you need speed upgrade in order to be actually useful or effective.

    • @Palpab1e
      @Palpab1e ปีที่แล้ว +37

      tell me you're bronze without telling me you're bronze lmao

    • @codyestes6596
      @codyestes6596 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Palpab1e just watched a world champion lose to it on this video? Along with hundreds of other matches over the years. Nice try kid.

    • @codyestes6596
      @codyestes6596 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@roy761017 as expensive as losing 14 workers? You gotta think about how much lost mineral time comes w that beyond the 700 upfront cost. I don’t have a problem with the idea of banelings but the fact that even if two of them get in they can destroy the entire line is silly.

    • @Palpab1e
      @Palpab1e ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This guy's either trolling or literally has like 3 matches under his belt. Just ignore him.

  • @diwajerebation4077
    @diwajerebation4077 ปีที่แล้ว

    toss players on suicide watch

  • @davicito4841
    @davicito4841 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nerf Zerg or nerf Serral?

  • @redrhinoz2119
    @redrhinoz2119 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hero did great with his micro, but just couldnt handle Serral's forces cause Serral is the king of macri. Honestly, Serral's macro is like an AI.

    • @InfTlr
      @InfTlr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it's just zerg being stupidly overbuffed ❤

    • @redrhinoz2119
      @redrhinoz2119 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@InfTlr Serral always outputs more army than his adversaries cause he has more bank. And that is due to his perfect macro. You can watch some clips on that. Like I wrote he is the king of that aspect of the game, zergbuff or not.

    • @InfTlr
      @InfTlr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@redrhinoz2119 serral has a big bank because zerg is unharassable and stupidly easy to defend

  • @gabrielhenriques6819
    @gabrielhenriques6819 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a protoss player serral pvz is disgusting to watch, it look like it's broken

  • @destonwong2577
    @destonwong2577 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has anyone or AI proved that if Terran and Protoss leave zerg to free tech for 10minutes, it will be almost impossible to beat.

    • @iseektheholygrail2055
      @iseektheholygrail2055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. It's called ghost mech. The strongest comp in the game. You don't harass zerg to stop them from teaching up, you harass zerg to prevent them from building killer eco and bury you in their corpses.

  • @momchilalakushev9222
    @momchilalakushev9222 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Death to the filthy op protoss, long live the swarm. No ammount of colossus juggling can save you from the banelings :)

  • @jonbattens8688
    @jonbattens8688 ปีที่แล้ว

    Serral is SO bad

  • @KILLKIDspeedrun
    @KILLKIDspeedrun ปีที่แล้ว

    great games but pig's casting is so bad it's distracting

  • @InfTlr
    @InfTlr ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing skill but still loses to attack move from zerg, this game is dead because blizz favors zerg

  • @leonlovelife2109
    @leonlovelife2109 ปีที่แล้ว

    Serral own zvp but easily lost to zvT. Terran over power this patch....

  • @johnrambo9323
    @johnrambo9323 ปีที่แล้ว

    i dont know why but i dindt like her commentary .......... so sad i liked this format

  • @samfan8685
    @samfan8685 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Game is so unbalanced even after so many years

  • @maliniak2
    @maliniak2 ปีที่แล้ว

    god when she screams my ears bleed

  • @kawibomber6098
    @kawibomber6098 ปีที่แล้ว

    These casters are so cringe, where is tastosis? Or Wardy, or Incontrol(RIP Geoff), or anyone else lol